July 26, 2024 • 30 mins
Ann Hobing is the Lone Star Flight Museum’s senior director of education and Cameron Hardy is one of their youth ambassador. Cameron is an impressive young man with a great passion for aviation and ambitions to become an Air Force pilot. He wants to fly those awesome jets and we talk about what he does at the museum and how it’s helping him set his path towards the Air Force. Ann tells us about the many events they have in this cool museum like Girls in Aviation and Harry Potter Day. Go to: www.lonestarflight.org and get in on the fun.
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Welcome to Houston, PA, Houston'sPublic Affairs show, an iHeartMedia broadcast.
Our disclaimer says that the opinions expressedon this show do not necessarily reflect those
held by this radio station, itsmanagement staff, or any of its advertisers.
My name is Laurent I am theTexan from France, and I welcome
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the Lone Star Flight Museum today.Probably the coolest museum in town. I
mean, there's a bunch of reallynice museums in this city. We're kind
of famous for it. The Museumof Natural Science is actually one of the
most visited museums in the world.If you didn't know that, that's the
one with the t Rex, literallya real t Rex, a fossil of
a t Rex. It's one ofthe most impressive site you can see in
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town, I think, in anymuseum. But it's not as cool as
a Corsair sitting on the floor ofthe Lone Star's Flight Museum alongside all these
vintage planes. They also have avisiting plane program, which means that other
planes are coming in and it doesn'ttouch only on vintage aircrafts. It's really
about aircrafts and flying planes and thehistory and the future of it. They
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have these amazing simulators that you cansit in and experience to learn and also
just to learn how to enjoy crashinga plane safely and all that. All
of these simulators tend to be verychallenging because they're so realistic, and you'll
find out that flying a plane,especially if you've got your feet on the
rudders and you've got the yoke inyour hand, all that stuff gets really
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complicated. And if they add thewind shears in the equation, you realize
that what the pilots are doing whenthey're flying us around is actually extraordinary,
and the planes themselves are absolutely awesome. They've got a great website. You
should go to lone starflight dot rglone starflight dot org to find out about
all their programs. They've got afirst Flyers Summer camp, even have a
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field trip request. But we'll talkabout that. You're a teacher, you're
a parent, and you want totake some your class to visit this museum.
They somehow keep the cost down toan impossibly low priced per student,
and that's because they have donations andgrants. It's a wonderful example of Houston
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generosity and ingenuity. You may notknow this because of course the Lone Star
Flight Museum has been around for along time, but it has moved to
Ellington Field, which is a workingAir Force base, which is killer in
its own right, and it hasa new facility that is housing all these
planes and it's one of the premierdestinations in town and well worth checking out.
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We'll also talk about Harry Potter Day, and then they're gonna have girls
in Aviation Day September twenty first,because if you've ever talked to girls,
you know that they like planes.To everybody, every human being dreams to
fly, and that's why planes,I think are so extra narily interesting.
Lone Starflight dot Org. My guestare Anne Hobing. She is the Lone
Star Flight Museum Senior director of Education, and with her is Cameron Hardy.
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He is a youth ambassador. Thisyoung man is a flight sim geek like
I am, so we might geekout on that and talk about our favorite
plane. The F four U Corsirwere probably the most recognizable World War two
fighter plane built by Americans. Itwas a technological marvel at the time and
was a big reason of why wewon the Pacific War. Now, there's
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a lot of reason why we wonthe Pacific War, including General Nimtz.
And since I mentioned General Nimtz,I should say that if you're ever around
Fredericksburg, you should visit the MnimtzMuseum. It is one of the best
museums I've ever been to. AndI'm a French guy, so I've been
to the Louver, I've been toa lot of the great museums in the
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world, and I am saying thishonestly. The Nimtz Museum is one of
the best organized and visually interesting museumsI've ever seen. But we're going to
talk about planes today because the LoneStar Flight Museum has a bunch of programs
that I'm particularly interested in. Andyou have a field trip request button,
which means that you're basically opening themuseum to everybody, anybody who has the
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wherewithal to go to the website andclick on the button. One hundred percent.
Yes, we welcome all schools.And you know, our mission is
built around STEM and Texas aviation heritage, and so for students and teachers who
want to focus on STEM, we'vegot something for you. For those who
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want to teach about Texas heritage.We've got something for you. Chester Nimitz
is in the Texas Aviation Hall ofFame. He would have to be,
that's right. So you know,we want everyone to come, We want
everyone to learn. There's something forall ages. For sure. You mentioned
the Texas Hall of Fame, that'sGeorge Bush is in it too, But
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you basically honor famous flyers. Thatwould be Orge Bush senior of course,
who fought in World War Two andwas shot down. Actually, and you
have the Trainer. You have amodel of one of the trainers he trained
on. If I forget the name, well, we have the North American
T six Texan. We do havethe Texan. The Texan's actually one of
the aircraft you can buy a flighton and one of our pilots what can
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fly you in the air in ourTexan. But we also do have the
Avenger, the aircraft that George Bushflew in World War Two. It was
the Avenger. Okay, so youmentioned the flys that you can buy.
This is an extraordinary experience. Thisis one of those awesome birthday present for
your kid or for your dad ormom who's into aviation. Tell us how
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that works. So yeah, youknow, that's one of the most unique
things about our aviation museum. Alot of museums have great aircraft, which
is fabulous. We still fly mostof our aircraft and so we have a
handful that you can buy a flighton that we do all the regular met
and so we do all the inspections, and we have these amazing pilots who
get checked out and they will takepeople up. So you contact the museum
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learn starflight dot org, you scheduleand work with our coordinator who schedules flight
times, and you come on outand you have this wonderful experience as a
family or for a gift. Ihad the experience back the when the air
show, the big air show,we're talking twenty years ago. They would
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invite the media and they would havemedia rides and they took us out in
one of the bombers. But Igot to fly in a Mitsubishi zero and
that was amazing. They brought itin for the air show and the pilot
took us up. It was outfittedwith two seats, obviously, which was
not historically correct, but convenient forme. And we bombed an oil rig
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obviously not with you know, realweapons, but you know he dove towards
the oil rig to give us atarget and had that experience of feeling those
vibrations. We're so used to thoseof us who have flown, We're used
to flying in jets, and thosethings are only uncomfortable because they make the
seats uncomfortable, but they're otherwise insulatingfrom sound, from the sound of the
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engines and the sound of the air, in such a way that they're fairly
quiet. And it's still pretty loudin there, but they're fairly quiet.
If you have the experience of flyingin an old prop plane, it vibrates.
You can feel the acceleration, youhear and feel the wind on it
too. It's just it's something thatis completely unique. Camera and I saw
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you in nod your head. Isthat because you've done it before? You
have you been able to go upin one of these planes? No,
sir, I've actually felt the vibrationof one of those planes before, and
it was pretty intense. You canfill it rumble in the ground and rumble
in your heart and your chest.It's just amazing. But you haven't been
in one of them. You gottago up, you gotta get them to
take you up. I've sat inthe T six six and I've gotten to
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work on it a little bit,so it's pretty cool. What do you
mean you've got to work on soI think this was a couple No,
this was like months ago. Theyallowed me to work with them. Some
of the maintenance crew allowed me towork on the planes with them on the
side. Really yes, and Igot to spend a full entire day with
them working on planes, cleaning planes, bringing them out into the museum and
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onto the strip. It was prettycool experience and I'm very grateful that they
allowed me to do that with themas well. How do you pull these
heavy machines around? Well, wehave I don't know the exact names of
them, but it's a tug weuse. Yeah, it's a tug.
Yes, yeah, we take Weuse a tug and we tug them out
onto the strip and then we putthe blocks back under the wheels. We
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fixed the seats for whoever sitting inthem, let them get comfortable in and
get the feelings of what they're goingto be feeling when they get in the
air, and then we allowed themto have the opportunity to be able to
fly with the pilots and stuff,and they put tools in your hand and
told you what to do and gotyou. So give us some example of
some of the stuff you learned howto do. So I basically got to
tighten up well. Because on planes, since the vibration of prop planes they
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have vibration, they sometimes get thescrews to unscrew theirselves. So what they
the main screw have to do isbasically go into the go under the plane,
screw the uh screw the screws atan angle because if you screw it
straight, if you put the screwdriverstraight up on the screw and screw it,
then it's gonna chip the screw.So you have to do it at
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an angle so I won't chip thescrew and be able to tighten this plane
or tighten the screw inside the plane. I didn't even know that, yes,
sir. So you have to bevery careful when it comes to screwing
and screws. And if with theplanes we have that museum, some of
them don't have a replaceable screw,so you have to be very careful when
it comes to screw them. SoI had I had mister Kevin monitor me
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on a couple of screws, andhe knew I was a very capable person
of doing it, so he allowedme to do it all on my own
and clean the planes. I gotto clean the T six, the I
don't know the blue one, theblue plane that we have. That's okay.
Most of our audience aren't going toknow, like they don't know what
the T six look like. Butyes, they look it up online,
which is fine. Folks do itwhile you're listening, if you have access
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to your phone and you're not driving. We see them in videos. We
see them in movies, and youget a sense of their scale because there's
usually a pilot in them. Butyou don't realize how big these old prop
planes were and how most of themare tail draggers, which means that there's
a little wheel under the rudder atthe back of the plane, which means
that the front of the plane ispointing upwards at an angle of like forty
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degrees. I mean, it's ait's a real slant. And especially with
the old old planes and the biplanes, they had to lean out sideways to
see in front of them to flyoff. Well, that's why they do
the s down the runway and you'dsee them back and forth. That's so
they could see the runway as theywere going to take off. And to
say nothing that these brave young menflew some of these these planes off of
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aircraft carriers and they did not havecatapults. So these old aircraft's carriers would
point into the wind so that thewind was coming directly into the nose of
the plane. They'd go as fastas they possibly could into the wind,
and the planes would just it's unbelievablewhat these guys did, and forget about
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landing them. If you have experiencedlanding a plane or an assimulator on an
aircraft carrier, it's insanely challenging.It's a ton of fun too. Anyway,
go to lone Starflight dot org lonestarflight dot org because obviously what you
hear Cameron talk about is something thatyour son or daughter could experience too.
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Anybody can become a youth ambassador.You were listening to Houston, PA,
Houston's Public Affairs show. My nameis Laurent. My guests are Anne Hobing,
she is the Lone Star Flight MuseumSenior director of Education, and Cameron
Hardy is a Youth Ambassador. Cameron, how did you become a youth ambassador?
I became a youth ambassador over theprogram of TSU. They took us
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on different so it's basically an aviationthemed program where we got to visit the
Metro Worlroad, the Long Star FlightMuseum, and we got to visit different
people around the world who worked inaviation as well. And one day my
mom was like, since I'm sointo aviation, she took me up to
the museum and we walked around themuseum. This was on Halloween. Oh
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yeah, yeah, sorry. Idressed up as my old as a football
player in my old football jersey,and we walked around the museum and we
met this man named Cameron, misterCameron, and he took us. He
took us on a tour. Hewalked us all around the museum, told
us about the different planes and whenhe taught us they had a volunteer or
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an ambassador thing going on where Icould volunteer as an ambassador for the museum.
My mom was all for the ideaand I was too, so he
allowed me to volunteer for a coupleof days to see how we'll do around
different people. And then that's whenI met miss Ann and she helped me
too as well, and then allof a sudden I liked it and I
started staying and going there constantly,constantly working and working and helping out the
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museum. You're like a docent.You help people, You do you give
Do you give tours? Yes,sir, and I don't give tours,
but I teach people how to flyour simulators. If there's something they don't
know on the sims, then I'llbe there the system on that, yes,
sir. So that's that's gotta beone of the best perks of your
job. You get to fight thesimulator. Right, Hey, there's nobody
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in there and I'm free. Yes, the simulators are one of those things
that you can add on to yourexperience. One of them is on a
gimbal, which means that it movesup and down and it gives you some
of those feelings. But you alsohave the simulators on computers. But these
are did you say they were Redbird? Yes? These are serious. These
are professional level simulators that actual pilotstrain on. And I guess you can
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load up you have a variety ofplanes. You can load up yes,
sir, with the new system.Now we only have biplanes. Oh cool,
Yeah, I think they're biplanes orno community plants like Cessna's SES two's.
We got the Mooney or our Mooneythem plane on there. We got
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different Moonies and we also got jetson there from F twenty two, F
thirty no F thirty five. TheF twenty two that's the super slick black
yet that has been in development formy entire life, and the Pentagon keeps
complaining about how expensive it is,and every time I see and I go
worth it. Yes, it's oneof the coolest designs of all time.
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Honestly, Americans build beautiful planes.And I would say the British and the
French through two those are the three. Those are three of the big aeronautic
people in the world. And they'vewell, of course, we the French
are a proud because we were thefirst people to go in the air with
the with the balloon, the air, the air balloons, the air what
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do you call those things? Hotair balloons there it is, yeah,
I didn't have Yeah, they justabsolutely brilliant guys who were brave too because
they literally built this giant balloon whichthey filled with hot air, and they
had they hung a basket under itand they climbed into the basket. Talk
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about having courage. Who wants tobe first? The rights brothers are the
first? Are the same way.It's like, who wants to be first
to fly off this cliff here?We think the wings will hold it up.
By the way, you mentioned biplane. Those are planes that have two
wings. Those are like World WorldWar One, the dawn of flight.
The planes have had actually up tothree wings. I want, I think,
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I want to say there was evena plane design that had four wings.
But triplanes were definitely a thing.I believe the red baron three wings
right, yes, yeah, wehave a replica Curtis at the museum,
so you can come see a biplaneright there at the museum. I left
out the Germans who designed beautiful planestoo. Unfortunately they're on the wrong side
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of the war, so we recognizeas them as the bad planes. But
the mister Schmids or beautiful, beautiful, beautiful machines. It's kind of too
bad that one of the silver liningsof war is the development of technology.
If we can say that I metMarshall callerone many years ago, he's one
of your youth ambassadors. To Cameron, you told me you know him,
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yes, and I have to howold are you? Sixteen? I have
to say, an, I'm reallyimpressed. These are well spoken, super
smart, motivated young people. Weare so blessed to have all of these
youths who are really interested in communityservice and in aviation, and just like
Cameron, they're looking to get involved. And so not only do they get
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to do cool things like yeah,you know, fly on flight simulators,
but we're really really focused on thecareer aspect for them. I'm getting them
some training, exposure to career experts, talking about different careers in aviation,
and really also working with them onsome interpersonal skills and just professional development.
And so Cameron comes to us havingsome of those skills already, but you
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know, if you're thirteen years oldand you're around a bunch of adults in
a work setting, this is allnew for you. So we spend a
lot of time trying to build theirencouragement and their confidence, and so we
are just so lucky to have allof these youths so energized and to be
around for years during their junior highend high school years with US. Yeah,
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Cameron, are you interested in acareer in aviation? Yes, sir,
I am what Air Force? Youwant to fly? Yes, Sarah,
I want to fly. Well,you're not wearing glasses, so that's
goods. That's step one, Iguess, yes. But so seriously,
you want to fly some of thejets, Yes, sir, My favorite
jets so far right now is Feighteen super Hornant. But in order to
fly that jet, you have tobe a Navy so you'll have to enlisten
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the Navy. I don't want todo Navy. Oh no, sir,
I'm not a Navy fan. Soyou want to go into the Air Force?
Yes, So what kind of planeare you going to fly? There?
F sixteen's F twenty twos or Fsixteen, F twenty twos, F
thirty fives? They do? Ithink they have a B two. Yeah,
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I think they have a B twobomber. But I'm not interested in
bombers. They might put you anywherethey want, and you might have to
follow orders. That's the problem withthe Air Force or all the armed forces.
I say, well, that's agreat idea that you have their camera.
We're going to put you in abomber. But as long as I'm
in the air, I'm satisfied withthat. As long as I can get
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up in the skies, that's allI care about. Sir. Have you
started thinking about getting your pilot's licenseyou can start studying, Yes, sir,
I do have a book to studyfor my sf tists to take this
year, my juring year. Soyes, sir, I do have a
book. And you're a flight simgeek, and I use can as a
compliment because that's what I am.I've been playing the Microsoft Flight Simulator since
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the late eighties. I think itwas version four. It was wire Mesh,
and now the program downloads satellite datadirectly from being maps and makes the
world look realistic. Yes, youplay on the Xbox, which means that
you're one of the millions of peoplewho have access to this awesome game.
Yes, and we were talking abouthow you can't. You cannot play this
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game without learning how to fly planes, at least theoretically, you actually learn
hard you know the hard data.It's it's it's it's a wonderful exposure to
science and flight engineering. And ifyou have kids and you have an Xbox,
folks, especially if you have theXbox Game Pass if you subscribe to
that. A lot of people thathave an Xbox have that. It's also
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good for the PC. The gameis there. You just click download and
you can play it. You shouldencourage your kids to play good video game.
And it is a very interactive game. You can oh, yeah,
you can interact with the controls andin a cockpit, the canopy, the
gears, all that very interactive.And it'll also teach you how to start
up a jet or anything. Yeah, you wanted to fly in the game.
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And it also includes helicopters, jets, commercial planes, anything, any
plane you can think of. Thegame also has the thing is that it
helps you learn how to fly theplanes that you're going to fly as a
grown up. Yes, sir,you're there already. I should. Do
you have any interest in any ofthe mechanics since you've worked with some of
the geniuses down there that keep theplanes flying, And yes, sir,
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I do have an interest of becominga mechanic. I like as well as
as well as I like planes,I also am a geek and cars,
Yes, sir, so I alsolove cars and I'm working on a current
car right now. What it's atwo. It's a nineteen something R thirty
two GTR. Yes, sir,it's it's a pretty ownA. It's going
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to be your car, yes,sir. Currently building it with my stepdadd
right now, which is which wouldbe pretty cool? Well, yeah,
because you have your license yet,no, sse do I'm working on getting
my license. Yeah, don't drivetoo fast when you take the test man
and practice your parallel parking. They'llding you for that. But yeah,
that's all those passions are. Really, there are gateway drugs, so to
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speak to a great career. It'sit's just literally it's like a Rosetta stone.
By the way, did you knowyou were interested in aviation before you
went to the lone star flight?Yes, I did. I wasn't.
I've been into aviation since I wasprobably three four You just, yes,
sir, I was just you wereborn with the locaborn with Yes, sir.
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My mom took me on my firstair show when I was like six.
Yeah, yes, sir. Igot to see an F sixteen do
a fly by over us, andthen an F eighteen had did or no,
it was a F eighteen and Ftwenty two did a formation flight.
So it was pretty cool to see. Was it the air show here in
Houston? Yes, that Hobby Airport. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's
an awesome airshow. It happens everyyear. I think it's in the spring,
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right. Well, the one that'sout at Ellington Field that we participate
in is Wings over Houston. Yeah, in October. That's okay. Oh
boy, I got that completely wrong. Well, look forward to it.
It's only in a couple of months. Yeah, we'll see you there.
We're going to talk about Girls inAviation Day, which is also coming up
soon on September twenty First, youare listening to Houston PA, Houston's Public
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Affairs Show. My name is Laurent. My guests are Anne Hobing. She
is the Lone Star Flight Museum Seniordirector of Education, and Cameron Hardy is
one of their resident geniuses. He'sone of their youth ambassadors. He's one
of the people that you'll meet ifyou go to the museum. They've got
a bunch of these young people thatare walking around in the Lone Star Flight
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Museum callers and they're the ones teachingyou how to fly the flight simulator that
they've got the information on the planes. You see, it's an awesome place
to visit. You should take yourkids. Hey, are y'all open for
free on Thursdays? I'm sorry.Right now in July it's ten dollars,
but throughout the year Thursday's half price. Thres Yeah, so you can go
visit the museum and then check itout. And well, let's mention Harry
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Potter Day. I guess he flewaround on a broom. Is that the
connection? You know? Wizards canfly, so, and there was a
flying car that was that's right,fist start, that's right. So you
never know what you might see whenyou come for Harry Potter Day. On
July thirty first, we'll celebrate Harry'sbirthday. There'll be some fun things,
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including perhaps a sorting hat. Youmight get to see this flying car.
Maybe, don't want to give awaytoo much. It would be so much
fun. There's a lot to seethat day. So come on down for
Harry Potter Day. And then onSeptember twenty first, you're doing Girls in
Aviation Day. Yeah. So registrationis live right now. We have the
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capacity for three hundred girls ages eightto seventeen for a free day to come
to the museum, fly in ourflight simulate nice be able to go to
a career fair with all kinds ofexperts and learn that there's more to aviation
than piloting. There's more to aviationthan airplanes, right. You mentioned hot
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air balloons, We've talked about helicopters. You know, you could be an
engineer, you could be a designer, you could do something like work in
an aviation museum. So we justwant girls to be really encouraged to follow
their path, think about a STEMcareer, really become confident in that.
What happens is that girls of acertain age start losing that confidence, and
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so we just want to make surethat girls know that aviation is also for
them. Science is cool. Theycome on down, they get a day
with their friends to come and meetother girls who have the same kind of
passion that they do and do allof these great things. So we're really
excited to host this. This willbe our tenth annual Girls in Aviation Day.
You mentioned STEM. What does thatstand for? Science, Technology,
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Engineering, and Mathematics. It's oneof those programs that they have in school
to encourage people to look into thesesciences. It's pretty natural for girls to
be interested in aviation because it's justcool and real, just cool. But
I'll tell you a personal story.So when I was in eighth grade and
I was part of our science team, I was our captain and I was
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leading our team, and there werethree boys on the team and one alternate,
and those boys, at the ageof thirteen, asked me to step
down so their friend could be onthe team instead of me. So right,
So girls get this message sometimes thatthey're not smart enough, or science
isn't for girls, or they can'thandle it. And so the absolute message
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is absolutely girls. We need girlsin aviation. We need girls to love
science and technology, engineering, mathematics. We want them to come out and
be around people like them who reallywant to be a part of this industry,
great place to make friends. Doyou have girls in as ambassadors too,
among the youth ambassador we do.We do. One of the girls
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like Cameron, she wants to bean Air Force fighter pilot. She's in
the Civil Air Patrol right now.She's still had everything to set her path.
You said something he worries me.You said that at a certain age
girls can you can lose their confidence. What do you mean by that?
What age are we talking about.We're talking about kind of early teen years,
right that again, they're given metransform into women. That's right.
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They're given these messages that they're notsmart enough, that they're too nerdy or
geeky, or you know, girlscan't be pilots, all the kind of
negative messaging. And it's sad tohear that it still happens today. When
there were women flying at the dawnaflight. Oh yeah, and Emilia Earhart
is definitely one of the most famouspilots of all time, and not just
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because she disappeared, although that kindof seals her legend. I just have
never experienced that. So when Ihear somebody explain to me that this is
happening, I'm like, where,who, who is doing this? It's
not in schools anymore, right,I mean the teachers aren't. Obviously,
teachers are encouraging girls to do whateverthey choose to do. Sure, sure,
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yeah, teachers and educators hear thisall the time, and so yeah,
they're absolutely encouraging and promoting girls tobe whatever they want to be.
The growth of kind of those teenageyears and those things just kind of happen,
and so it's up to women.It's up to men, it's up
to boys, it's up to everyoneto reinforce. If they see a girl
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who wants to be interested in that, encourage her, tell her she can
do it, give her the toolsto be successful. So that's another reason
we love to be a part ofGirls and Aviation Day. It's because we
want the girls to get that reinforcement. And this year actually we're also doing
a parent workshop so parents can hearthese messages and how as a parent can
you reinforce and encourage your girl ifshe's going through some of these struggles.
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So I guess you'll be having thisthis Girl's in Aviation Day on September twenty
first. It's free. You havethree hundred spots. Three hundred spots.
Registration is live. We do havesome registrations currently, which is great and
we want to keep growing. Soyeah, go to lone starflight dot org
find our Girls and Aviation web pageregister. Parents and siblings can come along
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for a ten dollars ticket and theycan enjoy the day as well. Lone
starflight dot org. Lone starflight dotorg. Cameron, I hope that you
achieve your goal of becoming an airforce pilot, and I hope that when
you do, I get to interviewyou again. It would be awesome to
have a conversation where you can talkabout how yeah, well, Lauren,
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you're just a flight sime gig,but I'm a pilot. Now. I'll
probably never say that, but itwas. That's nice of you, But
yeah, no, I have nodoubt that you can achieve that goal.
You obviously have all the talents necessary. It takes a lot of hard work,
and since you're a youth ambassador ata museum, you're already showing that
you're capable of doing that. That'sthat's probably one of the best things you
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can say about museums. And theLone Star Flight Museum is like a Rosetta
stone. You take your kid thereand you might awaken a passion, you
might awaken a vocation that you didn'tknow was there. It's all about having
access to these things, and that'sprobably the most the greatest power of museums
and why it's important for a citylike Houston, we are so many to
have all these various museums that exposeus all to the various sciences and histories
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and intellectual adventures that you can haveas a human being. If you're just
sitting in front of your TV allyour life, you're you're not going to
experience what's out there, and youmay never know that you're really good,
that you were born to do somethinglike Cameron was obviously born to fly a
plane. I'm looking forward to youbuzzing to tower like in Top Gun,
although maybe don't do that because Ihear they get you in trouble. If
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you, folks, if you haveany questions related to this show, hello,
send me an email. Texan fromFrance at gmail dot com. Texan
from France at gmail dot com.I'll send you a link to the podcast.
I'll send you a link to thelone Starflight dot org lone Star Flight
Museum. Hi, thank you forlistening to these issues I put on this
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show and I'll see you next weekat the same time. My name is
Laurent I am the Texan from Franceand this has been Houston, PA,
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My name is Laurent I am theTexan from France, and I welcome
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the Lone Star Flight Museum today.Probably the coolest museum in town. I
mean, there's a bunch of reallynice museums in this city. We're kind
of famous for it. The Museumof Natural Science is actually one of the
most visited museums in the world.If you didn't know that, that's the
one with the t Rex, literallya real t Rex, a fossil of
a t Rex. It's one ofthe most impressive site you can see in
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town, I think, in anymuseum. But it's not as cool as
a Corsair sitting on the floor ofthe Lone Star's Flight Museum alongside all these
vintage planes. They also have avisiting plane program, which means that other
planes are coming in and it doesn'ttouch only on vintage aircrafts. It's really
about aircrafts and flying planes and thehistory and the future of it. They
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have these amazing simulators that you cansit in and experience to learn and also
just to learn how to enjoy crashinga plane safely and all that. All
of these simulators tend to be verychallenging because they're so realistic, and you'll
find out that flying a plane,especially if you've got your feet on the
rudders and you've got the yoke inyour hand, all that stuff gets really
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complicated. And if they add thewind shears in the equation, you realize
that what the pilots are doing whenthey're flying us around is actually extraordinary,
and the planes themselves are absolutely awesome. They've got a great website. You
should go to lone starflight dot rglone starflight dot org to find out about
all their programs. They've got afirst Flyers Summer camp, even have a
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field trip request. But we'll talkabout that. You're a teacher, you're
a parent, and you want totake some your class to visit this museum.
They somehow keep the cost down toan impossibly low priced per student,
and that's because they have donations andgrants. It's a wonderful example of Houston
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generosity and ingenuity. You may notknow this because of course the Lone Star
Flight Museum has been around for along time, but it has moved to
Ellington Field, which is a workingAir Force base, which is killer in
its own right, and it hasa new facility that is housing all these
planes and it's one of the premierdestinations in town and well worth checking out.
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We'll also talk about Harry Potter Day, and then they're gonna have girls
in Aviation Day September twenty first,because if you've ever talked to girls,
you know that they like planes.To everybody, every human being dreams to
fly, and that's why planes,I think are so extra narily interesting.
Lone Starflight dot Org. My guestare Anne Hobing. She is the Lone
Star Flight Museum Senior director of Education, and with her is Cameron Hardy.
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He is a youth ambassador. Thisyoung man is a flight sim geek like
I am, so we might geekout on that and talk about our favorite
plane. The F four U Corsirwere probably the most recognizable World War two
fighter plane built by Americans. Itwas a technological marvel at the time and
was a big reason of why wewon the Pacific War. Now, there's
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a lot of reason why we wonthe Pacific War, including General Nimtz.
And since I mentioned General Nimtz,I should say that if you're ever around
Fredericksburg, you should visit the MnimtzMuseum. It is one of the best
museums I've ever been to. AndI'm a French guy, so I've been
to the Louver, I've been toa lot of the great museums in the
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world, and I am saying thishonestly. The Nimtz Museum is one of
the best organized and visually interesting museumsI've ever seen. But we're going to
talk about planes today because the LoneStar Flight Museum has a bunch of programs
that I'm particularly interested in. Andyou have a field trip request button,
which means that you're basically opening themuseum to everybody, anybody who has the
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wherewithal to go to the website andclick on the button. One hundred percent.
Yes, we welcome all schools.And you know, our mission is
built around STEM and Texas aviation heritage, and so for students and teachers who
want to focus on STEM, we'vegot something for you. For those who
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want to teach about Texas heritage.We've got something for you. Chester Nimitz
is in the Texas Aviation Hall ofFame. He would have to be,
that's right. So you know,we want everyone to come, We want
everyone to learn. There's something forall ages. For sure. You mentioned
the Texas Hall of Fame, that'sGeorge Bush is in it too, But
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you basically honor famous flyers. Thatwould be Orge Bush senior of course,
who fought in World War Two andwas shot down. Actually, and you
have the Trainer. You have amodel of one of the trainers he trained
on. If I forget the name, well, we have the North American
T six Texan. We do havethe Texan. The Texan's actually one of
the aircraft you can buy a flighton and one of our pilots what can
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fly you in the air in ourTexan. But we also do have the
Avenger, the aircraft that George Bushflew in World War Two. It was
the Avenger. Okay, so youmentioned the flys that you can buy.
This is an extraordinary experience. Thisis one of those awesome birthday present for
your kid or for your dad ormom who's into aviation. Tell us how
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that works. So yeah, youknow, that's one of the most unique
things about our aviation museum. Alot of museums have great aircraft, which
is fabulous. We still fly mostof our aircraft and so we have a
handful that you can buy a flighton that we do all the regular met
and so we do all the inspections, and we have these amazing pilots who
get checked out and they will takepeople up. So you contact the museum
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learn starflight dot org, you scheduleand work with our coordinator who schedules flight
times, and you come on outand you have this wonderful experience as a
family or for a gift. Ihad the experience back the when the air
show, the big air show,we're talking twenty years ago. They would
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invite the media and they would havemedia rides and they took us out in
one of the bombers. But Igot to fly in a Mitsubishi zero and
that was amazing. They brought itin for the air show and the pilot
took us up. It was outfittedwith two seats, obviously, which was
not historically correct, but convenient forme. And we bombed an oil rig
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obviously not with you know, realweapons, but you know he dove towards
the oil rig to give us atarget and had that experience of feeling those
vibrations. We're so used to thoseof us who have flown, We're used
to flying in jets, and thosethings are only uncomfortable because they make the
seats uncomfortable, but they're otherwise insulatingfrom sound, from the sound of the
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engines and the sound of the air, in such a way that they're fairly
quiet. And it's still pretty loudin there, but they're fairly quiet.
If you have the experience of flyingin an old prop plane, it vibrates.
You can feel the acceleration, youhear and feel the wind on it
too. It's just it's something thatis completely unique. Camera and I saw
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you in nod your head. Isthat because you've done it before? You
have you been able to go upin one of these planes? No,
sir, I've actually felt the vibrationof one of those planes before, and
it was pretty intense. You canfill it rumble in the ground and rumble
in your heart and your chest.It's just amazing. But you haven't been
in one of them. You gottago up, you gotta get them to
take you up. I've sat inthe T six six and I've gotten to
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work on it a little bit,so it's pretty cool. What do you
mean you've got to work on soI think this was a couple No,
this was like months ago. Theyallowed me to work with them. Some
of the maintenance crew allowed me towork on the planes with them on the
side. Really yes, and Igot to spend a full entire day with
them working on planes, cleaning planes, bringing them out into the museum and
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onto the strip. It was prettycool experience and I'm very grateful that they
allowed me to do that with themas well. How do you pull these
heavy machines around? Well, wehave I don't know the exact names of
them, but it's a tug weuse. Yeah, it's a tug.
Yes, yeah, we take Weuse a tug and we tug them out
onto the strip and then we putthe blocks back under the wheels. We
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fixed the seats for whoever sitting inthem, let them get comfortable in and
get the feelings of what they're goingto be feeling when they get in the
air, and then we allowed themto have the opportunity to be able to
fly with the pilots and stuff,and they put tools in your hand and
told you what to do and gotyou. So give us some example of
some of the stuff you learned howto do. So I basically got to
tighten up well. Because on planes, since the vibration of prop planes they
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have vibration, they sometimes get thescrews to unscrew theirselves. So what they
the main screw have to do isbasically go into the go under the plane,
screw the uh screw the screws atan angle because if you screw it
straight, if you put the screwdriverstraight up on the screw and screw it,
then it's gonna chip the screw.So you have to do it at
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an angle so I won't chip thescrew and be able to tighten this plane
or tighten the screw inside the plane. I didn't even know that, yes,
sir. So you have to bevery careful when it comes to screwing
and screws. And if with theplanes we have that museum, some of
them don't have a replaceable screw,so you have to be very careful when
it comes to screw them. SoI had I had mister Kevin monitor me
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on a couple of screws, andhe knew I was a very capable person
of doing it, so he allowedme to do it all on my own
and clean the planes. I gotto clean the T six, the I
don't know the blue one, theblue plane that we have. That's okay.
Most of our audience aren't going toknow, like they don't know what
the T six look like. Butyes, they look it up online,
which is fine. Folks do itwhile you're listening, if you have access
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to your phone and you're not driving. We see them in videos. We
see them in movies, and youget a sense of their scale because there's
usually a pilot in them. Butyou don't realize how big these old prop
planes were and how most of themare tail draggers, which means that there's
a little wheel under the rudder atthe back of the plane, which means
that the front of the plane ispointing upwards at an angle of like forty
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degrees. I mean, it's ait's a real slant. And especially with
the old old planes and the biplanes, they had to lean out sideways to
see in front of them to flyoff. Well, that's why they do
the s down the runway and you'dsee them back and forth. That's so
they could see the runway as theywere going to take off. And to
say nothing that these brave young menflew some of these these planes off of
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aircraft carriers and they did not havecatapults. So these old aircraft's carriers would
point into the wind so that thewind was coming directly into the nose of
the plane. They'd go as fastas they possibly could into the wind,
and the planes would just it's unbelievablewhat these guys did, and forget about
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landing them. If you have experiencedlanding a plane or an assimulator on an
aircraft carrier, it's insanely challenging.It's a ton of fun too. Anyway,
go to lone Starflight dot org lonestarflight dot org because obviously what you
hear Cameron talk about is something thatyour son or daughter could experience too.
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Anybody can become a youth ambassador.You were listening to Houston, PA,
Houston's Public Affairs show. My nameis Laurent. My guests are Anne Hobing,
she is the Lone Star Flight MuseumSenior director of Education, and Cameron
Hardy is a Youth Ambassador. Cameron, how did you become a youth ambassador?
I became a youth ambassador over theprogram of TSU. They took us
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on different so it's basically an aviationthemed program where we got to visit the
Metro Worlroad, the Long Star FlightMuseum, and we got to visit different
people around the world who worked inaviation as well. And one day my
mom was like, since I'm sointo aviation, she took me up to
the museum and we walked around themuseum. This was on Halloween. Oh
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yeah, yeah, sorry. Idressed up as my old as a football
player in my old football jersey,and we walked around the museum and we
met this man named Cameron, misterCameron, and he took us. He
took us on a tour. Hewalked us all around the museum, told
us about the different planes and whenhe taught us they had a volunteer or
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an ambassador thing going on where Icould volunteer as an ambassador for the museum.
My mom was all for the ideaand I was too, so he
allowed me to volunteer for a coupleof days to see how we'll do around
different people. And then that's whenI met miss Ann and she helped me
too as well, and then allof a sudden I liked it and I
started staying and going there constantly,constantly working and working and helping out the
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museum. You're like a docent.You help people, You do you give
Do you give tours? Yes,sir, and I don't give tours,
but I teach people how to flyour simulators. If there's something they don't
know on the sims, then I'llbe there the system on that, yes,
sir. So that's that's gotta beone of the best perks of your
job. You get to fight thesimulator. Right, Hey, there's nobody
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in there and I'm free. Yes, the simulators are one of those things
that you can add on to yourexperience. One of them is on a
gimbal, which means that it movesup and down and it gives you some
of those feelings. But you alsohave the simulators on computers. But these
are did you say they were Redbird? Yes? These are serious. These
are professional level simulators that actual pilotstrain on. And I guess you can
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load up you have a variety ofplanes. You can load up yes,
sir, with the new system.Now we only have biplanes. Oh cool,
Yeah, I think they're biplanes orno community plants like Cessna's SES two's.
We got the Mooney or our Mooneythem plane on there. We got
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different Moonies and we also got jetson there from F twenty two, F
thirty no F thirty five. TheF twenty two that's the super slick black
yet that has been in development formy entire life, and the Pentagon keeps
complaining about how expensive it is,and every time I see and I go
worth it. Yes, it's oneof the coolest designs of all time.
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Honestly, Americans build beautiful planes.And I would say the British and the
French through two those are the three. Those are three of the big aeronautic
people in the world. And they'vewell, of course, we the French
are a proud because we were thefirst people to go in the air with
the with the balloon, the air, the air balloons, the air what
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do you call those things? Hotair balloons there it is, yeah,
I didn't have Yeah, they justabsolutely brilliant guys who were brave too because
they literally built this giant balloon whichthey filled with hot air, and they
had they hung a basket under itand they climbed into the basket. Talk
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about having courage. Who wants tobe first? The rights brothers are the
first? Are the same way.It's like, who wants to be first
to fly off this cliff here?We think the wings will hold it up.
By the way, you mentioned biplane. Those are planes that have two
wings. Those are like World WorldWar One, the dawn of flight.
The planes have had actually up tothree wings. I want, I think,
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I want to say there was evena plane design that had four wings.
But triplanes were definitely a thing.I believe the red baron three wings
right, yes, yeah, wehave a replica Curtis at the museum,
so you can come see a biplaneright there at the museum. I left
out the Germans who designed beautiful planestoo. Unfortunately they're on the wrong side
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of the war, so we recognizeas them as the bad planes. But
the mister Schmids or beautiful, beautiful, beautiful machines. It's kind of too
bad that one of the silver liningsof war is the development of technology.
If we can say that I metMarshall callerone many years ago, he's one
of your youth ambassadors. To Cameron, you told me you know him,
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yes, and I have to howold are you? Sixteen? I have
to say, an, I'm reallyimpressed. These are well spoken, super
smart, motivated young people. Weare so blessed to have all of these
youths who are really interested in communityservice and in aviation, and just like
Cameron, they're looking to get involved. And so not only do they get
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to do cool things like yeah,you know, fly on flight simulators,
but we're really really focused on thecareer aspect for them. I'm getting them
some training, exposure to career experts, talking about different careers in aviation,
and really also working with them onsome interpersonal skills and just professional development.
And so Cameron comes to us havingsome of those skills already, but you
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know, if you're thirteen years oldand you're around a bunch of adults in
a work setting, this is allnew for you. So we spend a
lot of time trying to build theirencouragement and their confidence, and so we
are just so lucky to have allof these youths so energized and to be
around for years during their junior highend high school years with US. Yeah,
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Cameron, are you interested in acareer in aviation? Yes, sir,
I am what Air Force? Youwant to fly? Yes, Sarah,
I want to fly. Well,you're not wearing glasses, so that's
goods. That's step one, Iguess, yes. But so seriously,
you want to fly some of thejets, Yes, sir, My favorite
jets so far right now is Feighteen super Hornant. But in order to
fly that jet, you have tobe a Navy so you'll have to enlisten
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the Navy. I don't want todo Navy. Oh no, sir,
I'm not a Navy fan. Soyou want to go into the Air Force?
Yes, So what kind of planeare you going to fly? There?
F sixteen's F twenty twos or Fsixteen, F twenty twos, F
thirty fives? They do? Ithink they have a B two. Yeah,
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I think they have a B twobomber. But I'm not interested in
bombers. They might put you anywherethey want, and you might have to
follow orders. That's the problem withthe Air Force or all the armed forces.
I say, well, that's agreat idea that you have their camera.
We're going to put you in abomber. But as long as I'm
in the air, I'm satisfied withthat. As long as I can get
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up in the skies, that's allI care about. Sir. Have you
started thinking about getting your pilot's licenseyou can start studying, Yes, sir,
I do have a book to studyfor my sf tists to take this
year, my juring year. Soyes, sir, I do have a
book. And you're a flight simgeek, and I use can as a
compliment because that's what I am.I've been playing the Microsoft Flight Simulator since
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the late eighties. I think itwas version four. It was wire Mesh,
and now the program downloads satellite datadirectly from being maps and makes the
world look realistic. Yes, youplay on the Xbox, which means that
you're one of the millions of peoplewho have access to this awesome game.
Yes, and we were talking abouthow you can't. You cannot play this
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game without learning how to fly planes, at least theoretically, you actually learn
hard you know the hard data.It's it's it's it's a wonderful exposure to
science and flight engineering. And ifyou have kids and you have an Xbox,
folks, especially if you have theXbox Game Pass if you subscribe to
that. A lot of people thathave an Xbox have that. It's also
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good for the PC. The gameis there. You just click download and
you can play it. You shouldencourage your kids to play good video game.
And it is a very interactive game. You can oh, yeah,
you can interact with the controls andin a cockpit, the canopy, the
gears, all that very interactive.And it'll also teach you how to start
up a jet or anything. Yeah, you wanted to fly in the game.
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And it also includes helicopters, jets, commercial planes, anything, any
plane you can think of. Thegame also has the thing is that it
helps you learn how to fly theplanes that you're going to fly as a
grown up. Yes, sir,you're there already. I should. Do
you have any interest in any ofthe mechanics since you've worked with some of
the geniuses down there that keep theplanes flying, And yes, sir,
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I do have an interest of becominga mechanic. I like as well as
as well as I like planes,I also am a geek and cars,
Yes, sir, so I alsolove cars and I'm working on a current
car right now. What it's atwo. It's a nineteen something R thirty
two GTR. Yes, sir,it's it's a pretty ownA. It's going
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to be your car, yes,sir. Currently building it with my stepdadd
right now, which is which wouldbe pretty cool? Well, yeah,
because you have your license yet,no, sse do I'm working on getting
my license. Yeah, don't drivetoo fast when you take the test man
and practice your parallel parking. They'llding you for that. But yeah,
that's all those passions are. Really, there are gateway drugs, so to
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speak to a great career. It'sit's just literally it's like a Rosetta stone.
By the way, did you knowyou were interested in aviation before you
went to the lone star flight?Yes, I did. I wasn't.
I've been into aviation since I wasprobably three four You just, yes,
sir, I was just you wereborn with the locaborn with Yes, sir.
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My mom took me on my firstair show when I was like six.
Yeah, yes, sir. Igot to see an F sixteen do
a fly by over us, andthen an F eighteen had did or no,
it was a F eighteen and Ftwenty two did a formation flight.
So it was pretty cool to see. Was it the air show here in
Houston? Yes, that Hobby Airport. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's
an awesome airshow. It happens everyyear. I think it's in the spring,
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right. Well, the one that'sout at Ellington Field that we participate
in is Wings over Houston. Yeah, in October. That's okay. Oh
boy, I got that completely wrong. Well, look forward to it.
It's only in a couple of months. Yeah, we'll see you there.
We're going to talk about Girls inAviation Day, which is also coming up
soon on September twenty First, youare listening to Houston PA, Houston's Public
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Affairs Show. My name is Laurent. My guests are Anne Hobing. She
is the Lone Star Flight Museum Seniordirector of Education, and Cameron Hardy is
one of their resident geniuses. He'sone of their youth ambassadors. He's one
of the people that you'll meet ifyou go to the museum. They've got
a bunch of these young people thatare walking around in the Lone Star Flight
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Museum callers and they're the ones teachingyou how to fly the flight simulator that
they've got the information on the planes. You see, it's an awesome place
to visit. You should take yourkids. Hey, are y'all open for
free on Thursdays? I'm sorry.Right now in July it's ten dollars,
but throughout the year Thursday's half price. Thres Yeah, so you can go
visit the museum and then check itout. And well, let's mention Harry
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Potter Day. I guess he flewaround on a broom. Is that the
connection? You know? Wizards canfly, so, and there was a
flying car that was that's right,fist start, that's right. So you
never know what you might see whenyou come for Harry Potter Day. On
July thirty first, we'll celebrate Harry'sbirthday. There'll be some fun things,
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including perhaps a sorting hat. Youmight get to see this flying car.
Maybe, don't want to give awaytoo much. It would be so much
fun. There's a lot to seethat day. So come on down for
Harry Potter Day. And then onSeptember twenty first, you're doing Girls in
Aviation Day. Yeah. So registrationis live right now. We have the
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capacity for three hundred girls ages eightto seventeen for a free day to come
to the museum, fly in ourflight simulate nice be able to go to
a career fair with all kinds ofexperts and learn that there's more to aviation
than piloting. There's more to aviationthan airplanes, right. You mentioned hot
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air balloons, We've talked about helicopters. You know, you could be an
engineer, you could be a designer, you could do something like work in
an aviation museum. So we justwant girls to be really encouraged to follow
their path, think about a STEMcareer, really become confident in that.
What happens is that girls of acertain age start losing that confidence, and
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so we just want to make surethat girls know that aviation is also for
them. Science is cool. Theycome on down, they get a day
with their friends to come and meetother girls who have the same kind of
passion that they do and do allof these great things. So we're really
excited to host this. This willbe our tenth annual Girls in Aviation Day.
You mentioned STEM. What does thatstand for? Science, Technology,
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Engineering, and Mathematics. It's oneof those programs that they have in school
to encourage people to look into thesesciences. It's pretty natural for girls to
be interested in aviation because it's justcool and real, just cool. But
I'll tell you a personal story.So when I was in eighth grade and
I was part of our science team, I was our captain and I was
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leading our team, and there werethree boys on the team and one alternate,
and those boys, at the ageof thirteen, asked me to step
down so their friend could be onthe team instead of me. So right,
So girls get this message sometimes thatthey're not smart enough, or science
isn't for girls, or they can'thandle it. And so the absolute message
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is absolutely girls. We need girlsin aviation. We need girls to love
science and technology, engineering, mathematics. We want them to come out and
be around people like them who reallywant to be a part of this industry,
great place to make friends. Doyou have girls in as ambassadors too,
among the youth ambassador we do.We do. One of the girls
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like Cameron, she wants to bean Air Force fighter pilot. She's in
the Civil Air Patrol right now.She's still had everything to set her path.
You said something he worries me.You said that at a certain age
girls can you can lose their confidence. What do you mean by that?
What age are we talking about.We're talking about kind of early teen years,
right that again, they're given metransform into women. That's right.
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They're given these messages that they're notsmart enough, that they're too nerdy or
geeky, or you know, girlscan't be pilots, all the kind of
negative messaging. And it's sad tohear that it still happens today. When
there were women flying at the dawnaflight. Oh yeah, and Emilia Earhart
is definitely one of the most famouspilots of all time, and not just
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because she disappeared, although that kindof seals her legend. I just have
never experienced that. So when Ihear somebody explain to me that this is
happening, I'm like, where,who, who is doing this? It's
not in schools anymore, right,I mean the teachers aren't. Obviously,
teachers are encouraging girls to do whateverthey choose to do. Sure, sure,
(27:11):
yeah, teachers and educators hear thisall the time, and so yeah,
they're absolutely encouraging and promoting girls tobe whatever they want to be.
The growth of kind of those teenageyears and those things just kind of happen,
and so it's up to women.It's up to men, it's up
to boys, it's up to everyoneto reinforce. If they see a girl
(27:33):
who wants to be interested in that, encourage her, tell her she can
do it, give her the toolsto be successful. So that's another reason
we love to be a part ofGirls and Aviation Day. It's because we
want the girls to get that reinforcement. And this year actually we're also doing
a parent workshop so parents can hearthese messages and how as a parent can
you reinforce and encourage your girl ifshe's going through some of these struggles.
(27:57):
So I guess you'll be having thisthis Girl's in Aviation Day on September twenty
first. It's free. You havethree hundred spots. Three hundred spots.
Registration is live. We do havesome registrations currently, which is great and
we want to keep growing. Soyeah, go to lone starflight dot org
find our Girls and Aviation web pageregister. Parents and siblings can come along
(28:22):
for a ten dollars ticket and theycan enjoy the day as well. Lone
starflight dot org. Lone starflight dotorg. Cameron, I hope that you
achieve your goal of becoming an airforce pilot, and I hope that when
you do, I get to interviewyou again. It would be awesome to
have a conversation where you can talkabout how yeah, well, Lauren,
(28:45):
you're just a flight sime gig,but I'm a pilot. Now. I'll
probably never say that, but itwas. That's nice of you, But
yeah, no, I have nodoubt that you can achieve that goal.
You obviously have all the talents necessary. It takes a lot of hard work,
and since you're a youth ambassador ata museum, you're already showing that
you're capable of doing that. That'sthat's probably one of the best things you
(29:07):
can say about museums. And theLone Star Flight Museum is like a Rosetta
stone. You take your kid thereand you might awaken a passion, you
might awaken a vocation that you didn'tknow was there. It's all about having
access to these things, and that'sprobably the most the greatest power of museums
and why it's important for a citylike Houston, we are so many to
have all these various museums that exposeus all to the various sciences and histories
(29:32):
and intellectual adventures that you can haveas a human being. If you're just
sitting in front of your TV allyour life, you're you're not going to
experience what's out there, and youmay never know that you're really good,
that you were born to do somethinglike Cameron was obviously born to fly a
plane. I'm looking forward to youbuzzing to tower like in Top Gun,
although maybe don't do that because Ihear they get you in trouble. If
(29:55):
you, folks, if you haveany questions related to this show, hello,
send me an email. Texan fromFrance at gmail dot com. Texan
from France at gmail dot com.I'll send you a link to the podcast.
I'll send you a link to thelone Starflight dot org lone Star Flight
Museum. Hi, thank you forlistening to these issues I put on this
(30:17):
show and I'll see you next weekat the same time. My name is
Laurent I am the Texan from Franceand this has been Houston, PA,
Houston's public affairs show, Houston Strong
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