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February 25, 2021 46 mins

Is it time for America to get a divorce? Jesse Kelly explains this uncomfortable theory. Jesse also provides an update on the latest scandal surrounding New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and looks into President Biden's mental fitness. Plus, Senator Mike Lee joins the show to discuss how he plans to take on big tech.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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code Jesse divorce. Maybe it's time before you reject that,

(01:10):
just hang on. Maybe it's time. Plus mister potato head
and Senator Mike Lee tonight, all that's coming up right now.
I'm right, divorce is hard. Now I've never personally gone

(01:31):
through it, by the grace of God, I'm sure several
of you have. But have you ever seen somebody go
through one and thought to yourself, Wow, that looks like fun.
Now it's hard, but sometimes can't we all just acknowledge?
Probably for the best, couples go their separate ways, become

(01:53):
different people. He wants to stay home, have a suburban house,
raised the kids in rural America. She wants to travel
the globe and do Heroin with a rock band. Probably
shouldn't be together anymore. Right, Divorce is hard, but look,
sometimes maybe the way you should go. And I'm of

(02:17):
course not talking about you in your relationship. Please don't
don't don't get a divorce on my behalf. I'm doing
a really ham fisted analogy of where we are as
a country right now. Why don't we just get a divorce.
And here's what I mean. A nation only becomes a
nation if the people within that nation share common values

(02:39):
and decide let's come together. Look, you you believe in this,
and I believe in this, and no, we're not the
same person or whatever, but we all kind of believe
the same stuff. Why don't we come together. Then we're
safer as a nation. Then we have more economic prosperity
as a nation. We trade with each other's just better.
That's why we would become a nation. You don't even
have to think about a country a tribe. Think about

(03:01):
any indigenous tribe, whatever, indigenous people you're a fan of,
that's why they become a tribe. Common values, live together.
We have safety in numbers, economic prosperity in numbers. We're
not going to starve to death, freeze to death in
the winter. Come together, right, That's the only reason to
become a nation. If you don't have anything in common,

(03:23):
if there's nothing that binds you together, why are you together.
You're not a nation anymore. You don't have safety anymore
because you're each at each other's throats all the time.
So why are you doing it? It was probably three
four years ago maybe when I first brought up the

(03:45):
concept of national divorce, about American needing a national divorce,
not some bloody civil war thing. You. That's what I'm
trying to avoid. I don't want anybody to get hurt
But when I brought it up, I said, look, we
just don't share anything in common anymore. Take a bunch
of liberals from New York City versus a family living

(04:06):
virtually anywhere in rural America. What common values do they
share now? And don't do the thing I know you're
probably trying to do, trying to save the country. Well,
my grandpa was a Democrat. No no no, no, no no, no no,
I'm not talking about your grandpa's Democratic Party. I'm not
even talking about Bill Clinton's Democratic Party. These nut jobs today,

(04:27):
what values do you share with them? Anything? Naming one anything,
There's not anything. So why are we doing this? If
we force ourselves to live together like this, somebody's gonna
get hurt. And as big of a jerk and heartless
sociopath as I am, I don't want to see a

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single person get hurt, not on their side, not on
our side. I want everybody to just live peacefully. We
cannot possibly live peacefully if we feel this differently about everything.
It's not humanly possible. A nation doesn't provide safety anymore.
Now it provides exactly the opposite. Now it's a cage.

(05:09):
We've thrown each other in a cage and it's a
guarantee we're gonna fight. How different are we? Nothing lays
it out better than this pollet came out yesterday. They
were questions to Republicans and Democrats, what you care about?
How you feel about this, so on and so forth.
This was to the Republicans, how concerned are you that

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the following are a problem for the country. The top
three answers for Republicans illegal immigration, lack of support for police,
and high taxes. This is, you know, Goop people people
like you and I even if you look at even
if you're not Goop, you're just anti communists like I am.
Care about tangible things that matter, right be legal immigration, taxes,

(05:54):
so on and so forth. Okay, setting that aside, let's
not just puff our own selves up and bragged all.
We're the ones who care about things whether Democrats care
about They ask the Democrats where they care about? Top three?
Top three white nationalism or I'm sorry the top one
was Trump supporters, white nationalism, and systemic racism. Tell me

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how are we coming together? What are we going to
come together on? They don't care about taxes, they want
them hiring. They don't care about illegal immigration, they're currently
flooding the border with more of them. I I don't
really believe that Trump supporters are a problem at all.

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There's some of the most salt of the earth people
I've ever met in my life. White nationalism is certainly
not a major issue in this country. I'm sure there
are little pockets of it. I've never seen it. And
systemic racism is a complete lie. So what are we
going to come together? There's no putting the span back together.
When I first started talking about this, I had so

(07:04):
many people on my side and there side screaming at me, Oh,
you're terribor you're stupid, you would break up the country.
I don't get as many of those emails anymore. People
were starting to realize there's no coming together. I want
you to watch Senator rand Paul today. I want you
to watch him interrogate this guy, and you tell me

(07:26):
how were these two sides coming together? Because you'll very
quickly realize which side you're on you probably already know,
and which side there are. Why are we living together?
Do you support the government intervening to override the parents
consent to give a child puberty blockers, cross sex hormones,

(07:47):
and or amputation, surgery of breasts and genitalia. You have
said that you're willing to accelerate the protocols for street kids.
I'm alarmed that poor kids with no parents, who are
homeless and straught, you would just go through this and
allow that to happen to a minor. I'm alarmed that
you won't say with certainty that miners should not have

(08:09):
the ability to make the decision to take hormones that
will affect them for the rest of their life. Will
you make a more firm decision on whether or not
minors should be involved in these decisions, Senator Transtendor. Medicine
is a very complex and nuanced field. You know, if
you've ever been around children, fourteen year olds can't make

(08:29):
this decision. In the gender dysphoria clinic in England, ten
percent of the kids are between the age of three
and ten. We should be outraged that someone's talking to
a three year old about changing their sex. I'm waiting,
I'm all ears, how are you going to come together

(08:51):
with that? Are you ready for this? Do we even
want to come together with that? I will be frank
with you, as you know I always am, and I'm
blessed to work for the first they let me say
whatever I want. I don't want to come together with that.
I don't have any desire to, and I don't feel
bad about it. If you are the type of person

(09:13):
who believes that a child should be allowed to, without
their parents' permission, mutilate their own bodies and try to
change their gender, I don't want to live with you.
I look, I pray you come around, wake up one day.
It's something. I think you're the Antichrist or something like that.
But I don't want to live in the same country

(09:35):
with you. I don't share I don't need to know
anything else. I don't share anything in common with you.
I want you to stay way over there and all
stay over here, and we'll all just go about live
in our lives. And look, you can call that mean.
That's fine. I don't want to live with you, period.
I don't want to live in a country where a

(09:56):
child's toy like mister potato Head can't have a gender anymore.
Oh yeah, that's right. This is from the AP quote.
Mister potato Head is no longer a mister Hasbro, the
company that makes the potato shaped plastic toy is giving
the spud a gender neutral new name, potato Head. The

(10:18):
change will appear on boxes this year. It's obviously not
about potato Head. I'm not highly invested in potato Head.
But I want you to understand something. The statistics that
are coming out now about the amount of children, the
number of the staggering number of children in America who

(10:40):
believe they want to change their gender, slice themselves up
is shocking, and it's going up. And why is it
going up? Because culture matters. Culture matters a lot, and
they're constantly kids who are extremely influenced. Look, adults are too,
but kids are easy of the influenced. They're drowning in

(11:02):
this crap all day long. It's in their toys, it's
in their music, it's in their movies, it's in their sitcoms.
Oh yeah, change your gender, change your gender. Oh you
woke up today, don't like being a boy? Change your gender?
Change your gender. This matters what your eyes see and
your ears here your mind believes. And this culture is
so rotting and disgusting filth. We are filling up the

(11:24):
minds of these kids with stuff that will destroy the
rest of their lives. And I don't want to live
with you. I don't want to be there with you.
You want to journey down that road to insanity. Brother,
have a nice trip. I'll fill up the tank with
gas for you on the way, But I'm not coming along.
I'm not coming along. And nobody's helping. Nobody at the

(11:46):
higher end of the Democratic Party, which really is running
this thing and enabling at every step of the way,
none of them were helping calm things down. None of
them are helping. Everything is racists and sexists and transphobic,
and you can't have this and can't have that. Obama,
of course, it's still got the biggest platform of anybody
in the Democratic Party. Now Obama's out there talking about reparations.

(12:07):
I don't know if anything in this country would finish
tearing us to bits more than trying to punish white
people for something other white people did to other black
People's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And the leader
of the Democratic Party, in my opinion, he's out there
sence this stuff. What I saw during my presidency was
that the politics of white resistance and resentment, the talk

(12:37):
of welfare queens and the talk of the undeserving poor
and the backlash against affirmative action. All that made the
prospect of actually proposing any kind of coherent, meaningful reparations

(13:00):
ram struck me as politically not only a non starter,
but potentially counterproductive. And it's perfectly understandable why working class
white folks, middle class white folks, folks who are having

(13:20):
trouble paying the bills or dealing with student loans, or
you know, don't have healthcare where they feel like government
has let them down, wouldn't be thrilled with the idea
of a massive program that is designed to deal with
the past but isn't speaking to their future. Oh you

(13:43):
hate how he talks. I'm sorry, I don't want to
get off on attention. But always so calculating and slow
as he tries to figure out every single word he said.
Who talks like that? Gosh, she tries to be crazy.
Oh but don't worry. Don't worry. It's just where do
you send your kid seventy eight hours a day the

(14:05):
government schools. Here's what you're sending them to. If you
don't believe that there is white privilege, please don't teach.
If you don't believe that black lives matter, please don't teach.
If you don't believe in systemic racism and how it
negatively impacts our students of color and don't want to
help dismantle those systems, please don't teach. Get your kids

(14:31):
out of government schools. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I'm right. We have to do something about this insanity.
That's the thing. We can't just talk about it all
the time. We have to do something to stop this insanity.
We have to start taking back this government. I know
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(14:51):
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(15:41):
There's so much weird stuff going on right now in
the world, and I wonder if it's always been this way,
where there's such an obvious truth in front of everybody,
but everyone's kind of avoiding it or just pretending like
it doesn't exist. We have this weird thing with China
right now. Not to get off on a tangent, but

(16:01):
everybody remembers this came from China, right and China shut
down interior air travel and allowed travel to the rest
of the world when they knew they out of virus,
and everyone's just kind of stopped talking about it. They're
still investigating the origins of coronavirus. It's this weird thing.
And Joe Biden is another weird thing. The leader of

(16:22):
the free world, the president of the United States of America.
It's not mentally capable of doing the job, and everyone
knows it. You notice how you never see him, I
mean everything Conservatives were saying everything people on the right
we're saying leading up to the election about how he

(16:42):
doesn't have the mental faculties. They're just going to hide
him the whole time. It's all true. You see him
like once every two or three days, pops up one speech,
gone back to putting launch on the fire for old Joe.
And everyone knows, even Democrats know. We have now a
letter from a lot of Democrats on the House suggesting

(17:03):
taking away the nuclear codes from Joe Biden. Quote. Vesting
one person with this authority entails real risks. Past presidents
have threatened to attack other countries with nuclear weapons or
exhibit behavior that caused other officials to express concern about
the president's judgments and look hard not to agree with him. Right,

(17:30):
But never did I think it was a problem before.
But we do have in this country. We have enough
nuclear weapons to destroy the world several times over. The
man who can launch these nuclear weapons, he doesn't know
where he is sometimes. Is that weird for anybody? Don't

(17:52):
you find this to be so odd? And how we're
all doing this thing like we pretend he's going to
last four years, How Joe Biden's president. They be gone
soon and everybody knows it. I find it to be
the weirdest thing in the world that we're all stuck
in this reality. And look, he's lucky, he's dang lucky
coronavirus is out there because it lets him hide a

(18:14):
lot more. This is from a Biden aid. This is
from The Guardian. A senior advisor to Democrat Joe Biden
and his campaign for president believed quote COVID is the
best thing that ever happened to him. A new book
reports it was the author's add a necessary private comment
that campaign officials believed but would never say in public.

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As the US reeled from the impact of the pandemic amid,
hospitals stretched to the breaking and with dismounting in the
economy falling off a cliff. This is not exactly news.
Everybody with eyes and ears could see what the Democrats
did with coronavirus. They quickly recognized it was the perfect
avenue to do a couple different things. One wreck the

(19:00):
one thing that was going to guarantee Donald Trump's reelection
the economy. And two, it allows you to hide Joe Biden.
It's so easy to hide Joe Biden behind coronavirus. Why
isn't he traveling all over place? Remember Trump was everywhere.
Dude worked like twenty hours a day. He was everywhere.

(19:20):
He was in California and then by the afternoon. He's
in Florida and he's back in decent is always all
over Joe Biden. Oh, well, what we can't do that
of coronavirus. Definitely coronavirus they gave it was the ultimate
out for Democrats. And I don't want to keep parpet
on this, but I'm going to remember this. Talked about
this yesterday. Coronavirus doesn't ramp up like that. The lockdowns,

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the economic destruction, the mental health destruction, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, everything,
all the fall out with it, the schools, everything, none
of that happens if Republicans. If Republicans resist the initial lockdown, panic,
none of it happens. If Republicans hold the line, none

(20:07):
of this happens. But they didn't. They didn't. Now quickly,
this Andrew Cuomo thing. We've been talking about this, it
is not slowing down. It's picking up steam. It is
picking up steam because Andrew Cuomo at one point, remember
they were talking about him running for president before Joe

(20:29):
Biden was the shoe in because of how he handled coronavirus.
He did such a good job. This is our new guy.
He was doing interviews on CNN with his brother. You're
gonna run. Everybody wants you to run. He was the
belle of the ball there for about oh fifteen minutes,
and now not so much anymore. He is in this

(20:49):
horrible scandal and now it's piling on. This is from
Lindsay Boylan. She is accusing Cuomo and then she has
an article out said my worry of working with Governor
Cuomo subheadline Let's play strip poker. Yes, that's right. Quomo
is now mired in a sexual harassment scandal from somebody

(21:11):
who used to work for him. Here's this doozy quote.
He made unflattering comments about the weight of female colleagues.
He ridiculed them about their romantic relationships and significant others.
He said the reason men get women were money and power. Quote.
We were in his New York office on the Third Avenue.
As on third Avenue. As I got up to leave

(21:31):
and walked toward an open door, he stepped in front
of me and kissed me on the lips. I was
in shock, but I kept walking. Well that's weird, because man,
this Andrew Cuomo seemed really upset about that sort of behavior.
There is a disrespect for women that this administration chronically exemplifies.

(21:59):
After the meat to a movement. They did absolutely nothing
when it came to sexual harassment. They have always diminished
the charges of women, always consistent, and they're doing it
again to cheapen or ridicule the pain a woman suffers

(22:25):
from a sexual attack. M. That's weird. That was from
twenty eighteen. Almost like it's a different guy now. This
is Look, I don't know how much of this stuff
is real, how much of it's not real. I don't know.
You never know with these things, but I know this,
Like I've told you before, Andrew Cuomo made somebody very

(22:45):
high up on the democratic food chain, very very very
angry because the wolves are coming for him. Now. Now,
don't get burned. Look, I'll tell you the experience I
had opened up my email one day. M. That's weird.
That looks like my home title in my email inbox. Wait,

(23:07):
that's my signature on it and my wife's on it.
That's right. I hacked into my home title. I found
out later it took them less than ten minutes. They
will hack into your home title. It's easy, your home
titles online. If they get it, they're gonna take it
to a lending institution, take a loan out against it
and they are going to leave town with the cash.

(23:29):
You are going to be stuck with a massive bill.
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(23:51):
be back. As you know, I can be relatively hard
on elected Goop officials, and that's because most of them suck.
But when we get one of the good ones on,
we are proud to introduce them to you. And one
of the few good ones that I like in Washington,
DC is joining me now, Senator Mike Lee, a man

(24:13):
outnumbered out there in Washington, DC. Senator, First of all,
what is the One Agency Act Bill? It's pure awesomeness,
is what it is. The whole idea behind this is
to take our two headed monster anti trust enforcement personnel

(24:34):
and put it into a single body. In other words,
insolidate anti trust enforcement authority into the US Department of Justice.
We have or you know, going on a century now
relied on two completely different tracks for enforcing anti trust law.
You've got the Federal Trade Commission and you've got the

(24:55):
Department of Justice. It's created a problem because in many instances,
who enforces the laws may be determined by something as
arbitrary and capricious as a coin toss. This too, has
just resulted in a lack of focus and duplication of
efforts that creates other problems. So the One Agency Act

(25:17):
is all about bringing this all back in nunder one house,
which is where it should be. Do you think there's
a chance you could actually get some Democrat backing for this,
because that sounds like the kind of thing I mean,
there's not a whole lot that joins us together anymore.
I talk about that all the time, but that sounds
like the kind of thing I would assume even Democrats
can get behind. It should be And tell you there's

(25:41):
nothing distinctively republican or work democratic about this. It's not
distinctively liberal or conservative. And in fact the Democrats should
like this effort, but the simple reason that they're in
power right now, and if what they want is more
accountability within antitrust enforcement agencies, then they ought to want

(26:04):
it to be in one agency rather than two. Remember,
the Attorney General of the United States is a presidential
appointee and after being confirmed by the United States Senate
still serves at the pleasure of the president. So at
any given moment, the president has the power to fire
that person and the other individuals who work under that person.

(26:25):
Democrats should like that, they shouldn't fear it. Senator, what
role should the GOP play now, I'm talking specifically about
GOP senators when it comes to Joe Biden's nominees. On
one hand, as predicted, they're as radical as radical can be.
On the other, we lost, and there's a certain amount

(26:47):
of just having to sit there and eat that craft sandwich.
What should the GOP do? Stop them all, let them
all through, and say screw it? What's the appropriate role?
And requires a careful balancing test. Got a draw on
a lot of line it there, and it's one of
my law professors, Fred getticks, Well, let's put it. When
you're in that kind of position where you have to

(27:07):
make a judgment call, you draw the line in seven.
Now where the line seven is is up to individual interpretation.
That's what makes it tough. But in my case, I
try to look at each Biden administration nominee requires Senate confirmation,
not necessarily on the basis of whether I would have

(27:27):
chosen them or whether I would have recommended them to
a Republican president if we had a Republican president in office,
but rather as compared to who else we might get.
And in some cases that results in ME voting to
confirm a nominee, and others it results in a no vote.

(27:53):
Right now, people are worried about illegal immigration on the ryde,
They're word about gun control on the right, they're word
about high taxes on the right. We have some poll
coming out showing Democrats are just on a different planet
as far as the things they're worried about. They're worried
about white nationalism and systemic racism, and there are topics
who actually they're worried about Donald Trump's supporters. Senator, how

(28:15):
do we merge these two worlds we're living together right now.
It's not a happy marriage. How are we supposed to
merge worlds that are that different? Now? You know? The
devil really is hard to think that. It's very difficult
when you've got a group of people and if they
fall into roughly one of two camps. And if the
first group says X not why is what we want?

(28:38):
And the other says, why not X is what we want,
then you've got a problem. It works much better when
people can find ways to disagree without being disagreeable. And
one of the ways that we do that is by
shifting the focus of the decision making authority. We can't

(28:59):
do that with pick to every government decision. There are
some areas, including immigration, for one, where we constitutionally speaking,
in as a practical matter, we need a national policy.
This is one of the things that's given to Congress.
It's rendered federal by the Constitution. But there are a
lot of others. Most other areas, most aspects of government

(29:21):
need not be decided at the federal level. It's not
to say that we're going to resolve every dispute about
what the purpose of government is or what government policies
ought to be like. But if we can diffuse it
a little bit by sending back to the fifty States
the authority to make most other government decisions, for example, healthcare,
it's a fairly contentious issue. Most of the people in

(29:41):
Vermont would much prefer to have a single payer, government run,
government funded healthcare system. It's one of the reasons I'm
never going to live in Vermont, you know, notwithstanding the
fact that they've got Bena Jerry's ice cream from that state.
In Utah, we would have a different Vermont could get
to single payer a lot faster, a lot more efficient.
Still be a bad choice in my view, but it's

(30:03):
up to premonters if they want to do it. They
could get there faster and more efficiently if we didn't
have such a huge federal footprint in the field of healthcare.
And I think that can be a model for what
we had to do in all sorts of areas, including
in areas that deal with everything from labor, manufacturing, agriculture, mining,
most public education, KG through twelve. All of these things

(30:25):
are areas where the federal government has stepped in, but
where it probably shouldn't it certainly need not, And I
believe ana the federal government has very few rules in
the Constitution, very free roles, I should say, in the Constitution.
One of them is foreign policy. Though Donald Trump's more

(30:45):
I don't even know if you want to call it isolation.
It's less of a massive footprint everywhere. Foreign policy was
one I was a huge fan of. I didn't like
all that go everywhere all the time and stay forever
type thing. My question, though, is most of America, actually
left and right, agrees with me and agrees with that
that kind of foreign policy. Yet our foreign policy never

(31:07):
seems to actually change. Why this gulf between the people
who set the policy and the rest of the country.
It's probably the most uniting issue we have. It really is,
And I couldn't agree with you more at Trump affect
was the most peace loving president in our lifetimes, and
I think most Americans were with him on those issues.

(31:28):
He pulled us out of wars, he rams it down
efforts on existing wars, and kept us out of new ones,
and most Americans agree with him on that. The short
answer to your question is, I think it's the military
industrial complex. I think people when they get to Washington,
d C. After they've been here for a period of years,

(31:50):
sometimes the division becomes not just about left versus right,
Republican versus Democrat, but Washington DC against everyone else. And
I really do the military industrial complex is a thing.
It's sunk it's fangs deeply into both political parties and
the American people. Have been paying for it for generations,

(32:12):
not just not just with treasure, but with American blood.
And that's tragic. It's tragic. What's a childhood tax credit?
I know there's deal there right now with you and
Marco Rubio, and I'm shocked how many people I talk
to don't even understand what that is. Will you please
explain it for those of us who don't know. Yeah,

(32:33):
the child tax credit is there to ease somewhat the
tax implications of raising children. The purpose of the Lee
Rubio plan, which is it depicted in a really awesome
two minute animated video but it just put out on
my website at Lee dot Senate dot go. But the
Lee Rubio plan would address a very critical feature known

(32:58):
as the apparent tax penalty. I see it up on
the screen. Now, that's fantastically You've got them. Because of
the way our federal income tax system interacts with our
senior entitlement programs Medicare and Social Security, primarily American parents
end up paying more into the system in order to

(33:18):
preserve those very same programs. The child tax credit being
increased along the lines of what we propose in the
Lead Rubio Plan would diminish significantly the chokehold that the
parent tax penalty has on American families. I hope you
run for presidents someunday. Senator Mike Lee, Utah, thank you
so much to appreciation. Thanks so much, great to busy

(33:41):
with you. Look, we don't have many good wins. We've
got to hang on to the gid wines we have
for dear life. All right, we're not done yet, we'll
be back. Well, it's going to pay me to do
what I'm a to do, and that's to give my
next guests some compliments before we have a big old

(34:04):
argument about cheeseburgers. But we talk all the time about
patriots and patriotism and standing up for what's right. On
this show. The people are out there risking it, taking
real risks to do that. Those are the people who
deserve your respect. My next guest chef Andrew Gruel. He's
the owner of Slapfish, which I would highly recommend if

(34:24):
you're out in California. But he's also a lot more
than that. He defied Governor Newsom's orders. This is the guy.
He's got to go fund me out there, which I
highly recommend you support to help struggling restaurant workers who
have been just slaughtered by these government regulations. Chef, why,
I mean, you know, look, you're a chef. Why come

(34:44):
out and just take on the government. What's wrong with you?
I mean, there's something wrong with me, that's for sure.
That's for sure. To go through MS right now, that's
the one consistent theme, is that there's something wrong with me.
There is Tell me about First of all, describe for
people who don't know, describe what you did to defy Newsom,

(35:05):
and then describe what pushback you've gotten. Well, first he
banned you know, dining overall, then he opened it, then
he closed it, then he opened it, and then he
banned outdoor dining. Now, what we'd heard the whole entire
time was that outdoor dining was the safest option being outdoors,
months and months and millions of people marching outdoors, and
that was all good, right, and that's positive news if

(35:26):
that's the case. But then going into you know, November
into December, he bans outdoor dining, which totally decimates the
restaurant industry in California, and we just said, screw it.
I mean, we're we're not going to abide by this.
You've overstepped your boundaries, and based upon the very science
that you preach every single day, we are going to
follow that science and remain open. Chef, I don't understand.

(35:50):
I mean, you own a restaurant. Aren't all restaurant owners
filthy rich and can just close for months at a time.
What's your problem? I know I don't understand either, And
that's seems to be what people are saying about me,
is is that you own all these restaurants. I mean, look,
owning multiple restaurants just means you're compounding loss. They average
margin for the restaurants that are successful are two to

(36:11):
three percent, right, So you know he's ripped out everybody's
revenue stream here in California. And you know, if you
saw what came out recently, California is the worst right
now when it comes to deaths and cases overall. So
all of this mismanagement is now apparent in the numbers. Okay,
I know you restaurant guys stick together. Every restaurant owner

(36:33):
I know, and I seem to know a million of them,
but they all have buddies who are other restaurant owners?
Are you getting backing from other restaurant owners? Being like, hey,
I love what you're doing. We're with you, or are
you out there fighting alone? I'm getting silent backing, right,
so everybody's like, we're with you. This is amazing. I mean,
hundreds of messages, but unfortunately we just can't do it ourselves.

(36:55):
Are you getting any blowback from the government themselves? You're
getting people knocking on your door. Yeah. So I'm gonna
go public about this at some point here, But consider
this that, so five days after I went on my
newsom tirade, I got served by the Labor Commissioner on
like fifteen different businesses, some of which I have no pardon.
My wife got served. I did total blanket investigation, using

(37:16):
the bureaucracy in terms in an effort to completely bankrupt
me with red tape. We've spent over fifty thousand dollars
now in legal fees trying to fight this, and still
to this day they will not give us a reason
why they're investigating anything, even on businesses that have no employees.
They've deputized the commissions, right, the Labor Commissioner, the Health Department,
you name it, and we're right now up against it

(37:38):
big time. Bill Gates says, we should all eat synthetic meat.
There's a video out there of him drinking poopwater. I'm
not making that up, everybody. I'm not even trying to
be gross. What do you think about synthetic meat, chef,
because that doesn't sound very good to be at all. Now.
I mean, there's so many other ways that we can
actually raise protein in a sustainable health environment where it's

(38:00):
the actual protein aquaculture, right, I mean I talk about
that all the time. We're growing right now, like six
hundred fish on the side of a local high school
football field while simultaneously growing vegetables and romane lettuces. You know,
synthetic meets all that it is is it's effectively Silicon
Valley's answer to anything where they're just trying to generate

(38:21):
more money, build more value. I mean, Memphis meets the
company that originally tried to create the synthetic meatball and
growing in a lab. It would cost upwards of twenty
thousand dollars for one meatball. I mean, it's not financially feasible,
but it's just another ruse. Chef. I have stated on

(38:43):
several occasions that I make the greatest cheeseburger in the world.
You have a problem with my cheeseburger. I would like
to give you this opportunity. Please, you have the floor
call me out from my white trash cheeseburger that tastes delicious. No, look,
you know, I mean, I'm ribbon online. I think your
cheeseburger looks meat yoker, and I think that's a huge
compliment for me. You know, you just got to toast

(39:04):
the buns. You got to toast the buns a little
bit better, or those juices are gonna drip right through
there and you gotta get more mayo in it. Okay,
all right, you know what. I'm not gonna push back
on you on mayo. But why do I have to
have a toasted bun? I'm not anti toasted bun. I
won't be paying it that way, but sometimes the bun
just you want it to be soft all the way through.
What's wrong with that? Gosh, look at it, by the way, everybody,

(39:24):
this food you're seeing on there, that's actually food this
guy makes. I'm not kidding. You gotta go either his restaurant.
Why do I have to have a toasted bun? Though? Well,
you think about the architecture, right, you need that foundation okay,
so that the sauces actually remain inside the dining vessel,
that's between your two hands. And if you're having a slider,
don't toast the bun. It's one bite, it's in and

(39:45):
out right, it's like it's wet. That's fine, use it
as a napkin. But I'm telling you toasting the bun.
And if you're doing a grilled cheese, toast a bun
on both sides as well. Whoa, whoa what? You just
blew some minds right there. So are you telling me
I have to toast it, then put the cheese in,
put the toasted pieces together, and then toasty. Are you serious? Well,
if you think about it, right, the best thing about

(40:07):
a grilled cheese is that beautiful buttery exterior. You've got
a whole, you know, equal amount of surface area on
the inside, so you can double that flavor, right, why
not double the flavor doublemint gum style. I love it, chef.
Obviously you're successful. Everybody in their brother talks about wanting
to own a restaurant. You've already pointed out the two

(40:27):
to three percent profit margins of the restaurants. But look,
restaurants are cool. Everybody loves them. Who doesn't want to
own a restaurant and be the food guy after the pandemic.
Let's set aside the pandemic stuff for now. What's some
advice you can give to a young entrepreneur who's not
just gathering at a party, genuinely wants to start a restaurant.
What would you tell them to avoid or make sure
they do well? Keep it simple. We've overcomplicated the entire

(40:51):
restaurant industry. And if you look at those restaurants that
have made it through decade after defcade after decade, they
focus on one thing, maybe two sides, really one thing, right,
so you're holding the ball burger joint, your hot dog joint,
your fried chicken joint, whatever it is. Don't overcomplicated fine dining.
Don't do fine dining unless you've got millions of dollars backing.
You pick one thing, do it really, really well, and

(41:12):
focus in on that. And from day one you got
to focus on making money. You see, private equity, they
has totally killed the restaurant industry because they just trade
debt and they make people think that you can build
a significant amount of value without profit. That's not the case. Okay,
I've always wondered this, Why doesn't everybody start a steakhouse?
It looks so fancy and the drink costs nine hundred dollars.

(41:34):
Don't you make a lot more money with a steakhouse?
You make a lot of revenue with a steakhouse. Once again,
as I mentioned before, if you're losing money, the higher
amount of revenue, the higher amount of debt. And in
a steakhouse, the reason why those prices are so high
is because the cost of real estate is also so
high and the cost of actually building the restaurant out.
You need a lot of high quality equipment to do so.
You know, right, you can cook a burger off the

(41:54):
back of a Cadillac if you want, so why not
do that? There's talk about this recall of Gabin Newsom
actually being something that's a possibility. You are a California guy,
Do you have any update for us? Are they actually
going to take this guy down? How does this work? Yeah,
it's definitely going to go to measure, So it's going

(42:15):
to go to vote. They'll they'll certainly have enough signatures.
Now the question is are we going to get enough
votes to actually recall Newsom? People don't realize that while
the headlines about him screwing up left and right go
viral so quickly, he has a cult following within the
bureaucracy of California. So there is enough people within the

(42:36):
system that are going to dodge and weave and try
and create a scenario where it's virtually impossible for him
to actually get voted out. So that's you know, I
hate to be pessimistic, but that's the reality of the situation.
Why did you do this go fund me for restaurant workers.
It's not just restaurant workers. I mean, it's the restaurant
tours as well. It's the whole entire ecosystem. We're always

(42:58):
there for everybody, including and most importantly the politicians. Right,
how many deals have been struck over three martini lunch.
But now when it comes time for us to get
a little bit of help, even if it's as simple
as just unemployment benefits, they're gone. You know, we've got people.
It started in December and I was getting call after
call after call about people who needed funds just to

(43:19):
be able to put Christmas gifts under the tree or
put food on the table. It was an either or.
After they got their jobs ripped out from underneath them.
So we put this together and said, look, if the
government's not gonna do it, we'll be efficient. We'll step up.
Every single penny is being distributed, and we're even trying
to match as much as we can throughout this fund
as well. It's efficient, it's real, it's authentic, none of

(43:40):
this bureaucracy. It's a way to do it. Yemen chef
Andrew Gruel, I wish you're the best man. I'll beating
it slapfish when I get out there. Thank you so much.
It's an honor. I appreciate it. It's a good dude
right there putting his money where his mouth is and
that gone. He does have some good looking food. You know.
You can watch the first anywhere right anywhere, anytime, as

(44:04):
long as you got that right there or a tablet.
Even get it on your spart TV. Yes there's an app.
Go to the first TV dot com slash watch. That's
the first TV dot com slash watch. You see all
of us. You can get all of us anytime you want.
We'll be back. It is enjoyable when people are rude

(44:32):
and kind of get what's coming to them. This video
has been circling around online. I had to bring it
to you. I will. I will say full disclosure. I'm
not one hundred percent sure this isn't staged. I'm cynical
by nature because it looks so bad for this woman. Nevertheless,
here it is. Why do you keep following me? It's honestly,
I'm going to call the cops. Man. No, no, because

(44:54):
you guys aren't leaving me alone. And that's why window
were rowing the world by themselves. You you have I
don't know if you have like a like gas bro
you have a thing hanging out of your car. What
are you talking about. There's a literally a gas hose

(45:14):
hanging out of your car. No, it's being creeper. No,
thank you. I guess there's a thank you. That's it.
Thank you to get all of it. Dude, you didn't
even close the gas out. He always be nice. I'll

(45:41):
see them all on the Jordan Harbinger Show. You'll hear
amazing stories from people that have lived them, from spies
to CEOs, even an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino
crime family. You're about to hear a preview of The

(46:02):
Jordan Harbinger Show with Jack Garcia, who did just that.
My career was twenty four out of twenty six years
was solely dedicated working on the cover. I walk in,
I'm in the bar. How there's a bar made? Dare
good looking? Young lady? See serving me? Joey, Hey, what
would you like? I usually my drink was give me
a kettle, one martini, three alarms, class of water on

(46:23):
the side. I finished the drink, the guys come in.
I'm gonna go go in my pocket, take out the
big water of money heam. I give her one hundred dollars.
If you're with the mob, I say, hey, Jordan, you're
on record with us. That means we protect you. Nobody
could shake you down. We could shake you down. Oh,
you're on record with us. For more on how Jack

(46:43):
became so trusted in the highest levels of the Gambino organization,
check out episode three ninety two of The Jordan Harbinger Show.
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