May 15, 2025 • 45 mins
Jesse Kelly unpacks the latest political firestorms shaking America. He dives into the shocking threats from AOC and Hakeem Jeffries against ICE for arresting Democrats, exposing the left’s brazen power plays. Jesse also breaks down the Supreme Court’s high-stakes birthright citizenship hearing, analyzing what it means for Trump’s agenda and the nation’s future. Plus, new revelations of corruption from DOGE and disturbing details on the alleged cover-up of Joe Biden’s decline spark fiery commentary on government accountability.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about the law immigration in this country, how
democrats stand up for their side and we do not.
What's going on at the Supreme Court. Some big things
are about to happen. John Phillips talks about the next
presidential race.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I know it's crazy. All that and more coming up.
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let's talk about our system and how screwed up and
crazy our system.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Is in this country. And here's well, here's.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
An example I'll use from my own personal life. This
was a few years ago. We were having a Marine Corps,
a little get together from me and some of my
marine buddies were getting together and we're gonna go out
display round of golf, that's all catch up on old times,
a couple of beers, you know, normal things. And one
of my buddies initially said wasn't going to come, he
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wasn't going to be able to come.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And then.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
He texts us the day before and he says, hey,
I have great news, buddy. I begged my wife and
she's going to allow me to come golfing with you guys.
And of course, for him, he felt like this was
a huge win. It's great he gets to come golfing.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But for us. We were universally mortified by all this.
Your wife allowed you to go golfing with guys you
fought in a war.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
With, and you think that's a win. I think about
that when I look at what's happening in the country
right now. For instance, right now, we have a judge
who has backed Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act.
Trump used the Alien Enemies Act to deport these gang members.
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He's saying, hey, Ms thirteen, that's a terrorist organization, So
I'm going to use the Alien Enemies Act to kick
these people out. Well, the court system stepped up. Another
judge stepped up and said, no, you can't do that.
And so now we have another judge who steps in
and says, no, actually you can do that. And I'm
supposed to celebrate this as some sort of a win.
(02:11):
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm happy the deportations
are about to commence. But where does that Where does
that put us as a country where deporting illegal alien
gang members, druggies, rapists, murderers, thieves. We have to get
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special permission from a random judge you've never heard of
before to allow the United States president to deport illegals
and I'm supposed to what.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm supposed to sit here and cheer.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I don't think I'm going to be cheering because I
don't think that says much about where we are as
a country.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Frankly, I think we're in a whole lot of trouble.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And now Trump Trump has to ask the Supreme Court,
ask the Supreme Court for things, or.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Try to demand. Hey, but we really need you to
allow us to do this.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And it's always something that's obviously his job and obviously constitutional.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But what does that say about us as a country.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
We have a criminal organization known as the Democrat Party
in the United States government operating openly here, and the
judicial system seems to be dedicated to allowing them.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And to be honest with you, I'm shocked we even
got one arrested. Remember that Wisconsin judge helped an illegal
alien escape by he said, of course, now she's facing
jail time. But let's talk about that for a moment.
Let's talk about what a step that was. Some communist
street animal tries to get an illegal alien out of custody.
You wouldn't be shocked, and I wouldn't be shocked. These
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people are stupid, mentally ill on welfare, have nothing to
live for, so they're going to go do these stupid
criminal acts. This lady has worked her way through law school,
worked her way up through the legal system, and now
is a judge, and she thought she was going to
be okay springing an illegal from ice custody.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What does that say about where we are as a country,
about the divide between the two parties. I mean, let's
talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, the mayor of Newark was arrested for protesting
outside of an ice facility, and a bunch of Democrat
members of Congress showed up and started assaulting federal agents
at the ice facility. Now we'll get to Christy Omes's
comments about that in just a moment, but just pause
and think about that for a moment.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Just pause and think about where we are. There are
two major political parties. I realized there other parties exist,
but there are two major ones, and one of the
two political parties it is completely dedicated to keeping illegal
alans in the country. How do we survive that. I'm
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supposed to celebrate them. Christy Nolan was talking about it
and said this.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We had members of Congress assaulting law enforcement officers. They
were cooperating with criminals to create criminal acts. And then
they're saying that they were providing oversight. This wasn't oversight.
This was committing felonies. So you're saying, if members of
Congress break the law, they're not going to get special treatment.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
They're going to be treated like any other US citizen.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
If they break the law, they're going to pay the price.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well, that's up to the Department of Justice.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's up to the Department of Justice.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm glad she's threw that out there, you see, because
I've been thinking a lot about.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Those Democrat members of Congress.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson has talked
about them, and well, maybe we can expel them off committees.
And I'm not sure about this. I'm not sure about that.
We're looking into every eye option, getting a whole lot
of hand wringing over the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
But that's funny.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Remember George Santos. Maybe you're not a George Santos fan.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't know him. I'm not a fan. I don't
know the guy.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But George Santos had accusations against him, accusations at the
time unproven accusations against him corruption, things like that the
GOP led House, not Democrats, Republicans and the House of Representatives.
They didn't just put out a statement, They didn't just
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kick him off committees. They expelled him from the United
States House of Representatives. So when faced with potential corruption,
Republicans immediately kicked out one of their own members and
narrowed our majority in Congress. That's how our side fights.
Would you like to see how their side fights?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Here was AOC.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
And now what DHS is trying to say again, they're
using public intimidation because they know that they cannot come
for us all. They know that they are not that
they cannot come for us all. And recently what they
said is that DHS is allegedly looking into arresting members
of Congress who were showing up for their legal and
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constitutional obligation to conduct oversight. If anyone's breaking the law
in this situation, it's not members of Congress, it's the
Department of Homeland Security. It's people like Tom Homan and
Secretary Christy No you lay a finger on someone on
Representative Bonnie Watson Coleman, on Representative or any of the
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representatives that were there, you lay a finger on them,
we are going to have a problem.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Immediately they locked shields and issue threats. Don't think this
was just AOC being a wingnut. Minority Leader of King
Jeffries said the same time the.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Incident, if you said they better not touch our members, correct,
what happens if they were to go and arrest these
members or if they would try to sanction.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Them through the house works.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Don't find out what would you do though? I mean,
I don't find out.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Course, I mean, but does that broachange?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Don't find out?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
That's a red line?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
What's the what's the red line? Though?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I mean, I know we have this say it's a
red line.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's very clear.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's why the country's only moved to the left. I'm
mortified by where we are. Whatever, let's move off of
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Speaker 2 (09:28):
Jesse, we'll be bad birthright citizenship. You are about to
hear that term a lot in the coming week, and
so let's just let's just get something out of the
way right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I really don't care about what anybody says about the issue.
It's completely insane for a country to automatically grant citizenship
because in illegal hop the border.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And had a baby in the country.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That is such a bonker's way to handle immigration citizenship.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's such a degrading way.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
To handle the citizenship of a country yet that has
been established policy in the United States of America for
a very long time.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Trump is challenging it, and good for Trump. What's the
Supreme Court going to do? What's the history behind all this?
I don't freaking know.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Let's talk to Josh joining me now, my buddy Josh Hammer,
host of the Josh Hammer Show, and of course authored
that wonderful book Israel and Civilization. Hey, Josh, before we
get into the idiot Supreme Court, can you give us
a little bit of background on this whole fourteenth Amendment thing?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Sure, of course, So Jesse, I hate to disappoint you,
my good friends, but just for your viewer's awareness, unfortunately
they're not really debating the Fourteenth Amendment issue at the
Supreme Court. This is basically going to be an oral
argument about the scope of the so called nationwide injunction.
So I care a lot about about the birth right.
There's suchi issue, and let's go ahead and talk about it.
(11:02):
But we're primarily dealing here with the nationwide injunction, which
is a very, very very important issue in its own right,
and I think that Scotus is probably well primed to
narrow the limits of what these rogue. Lower court judges
can and cannot rule when it comes to the scope
of the injunction. But with that, you know, important caveat aside,
let's talk about the fourteenth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
There.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
So, the Fourteenth Amendment begins with the clause. So the
very first clause is the decisionsive Clause, which famously includes
this qualifier. It says that all persons born in the
United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are hereby
citizens of the United States. Now, the purpose of this
clause is to overturn probably the single worst screen Court
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opinion in the entire history of the Supreme Court, the
eighteen fifty seven case called Dread Scott, which infamously held
that black people are not citizens? Can there are be citizens?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
There?
Speaker 7 (11:51):
That was the purpose there. The key thing that is
important for purposes of the substantive debate in the fourteenth
Amendment is that qualifiers subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Now,
for most of the past century, call it's a little
over a century, close to a century and a half
now at this point, actually, most people have read that
jurisdiction as just being like, okay, well, if you murder someone,
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then you can be arrested for that crime. Therefore, you
are in the jurisdiction. So, by that reading of what
it means to be subject to the jurisdiction Jesse, than
any alien, legal or illegal would be subject to the jurisdiction,
because if an illegal alien is here and happens to
murder someone, guess what, that alien's going to be arrested there. However,
I am many others have long argued that that is
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not the proper reading of subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
because the way that the Framers use this phrase here,
they were talking not just about territorial jurisdiction. They were
talking about something that we might refer to as political jurisdiction,
as owing your allegiance to a certain sovereign. In fact,
if you actually go back and look at what they
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were trying to do, the fourteen Men was ratified in
eighteen six eight, they were actually really just trying to
constitutionalize the Civil Rights Act of eighteen sixty six, which
was passed by Congress two years prior, and there the
drafters were actually a lot clear. They said, any person
born or naturalized in the United States and not subject
to a foreign power is therefore a citizen of the
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United States. There is so the better way to read
this Jesse, The best way to read the fourth amend
here is basically saying that you only automatically get birthrights
isenship if you are not subject to a foreign power.
So I would take it even further and say that
a proper reading of this cause means that the only
people that are constitutionally required to get birthrights isenship are
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people that are born here to US citizens. I would
argue that even the children of legal aliens, you're on
a green card here, Congress can give you birthrightsistionship. In fact,
maybe they actually even should. But even that is actually
not technically constitutionally required. But the notion that you would
automatically get birthrightsisenship as a children of an illegal alien
is flatting. That would have completely completely dumbfounded the very
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wise men who wrote this medment in eighteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Okay, so how did we get here that?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
How did we get It's obvious to everybody, It's obvious legally,
it's obvious.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
To just common sense people.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So how do we get to the place where we
have millions of people hoping the border crapping out a
kid and now the kid's a citizen.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
How did that happen?
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Look, Jesse, I mean, first of all, it's not even
a legal disaster, as you actually point out this, It's
an absolute policy and moral disaster. I mean, we literally
have an entire birth tourism industry here. I know that
because we just had our first child last December, and
when I went with my wife to the obgyn here
in South Florida where we live, you literally see foreign people,
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especially here in Florida's a lot of Russian speaking folks
from Eastern Europe that are literally just here for purposes
of getting a visa on their eighth ninth month of
pregnancy to pop out a child. So it's completely insane,
I mean, is it is an absolutely insane policy, To
say nothing, the way that it incentivizes the coyotes and
the cartels down in northern Mexico of the transport vulnerable
young women in the seventh and eighth month of pregnancy
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to get across the border. It's totally nuts. The basic
way that we got here is that. So for the
first two two and a half three decades after the
fourteenth them was ratified, So we're talking here of the
late nineteenth century. The Supreme Court actually got it right.
In fact, the very first time that the decisions cause
of the Fourth Amendment is actually explained is in an
eighteen seventy one case called the slaughter House Cases. And
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they're just as Samuel Miller reads it in the correct way,
this notion of complete jurisdiction, political allegiance, and so forth,
it starts to go off the rails a little bit
in an eighteen ninety eight case out of San Francisco
called Wang kim arc. So the fact pattern in Wang
kim Mark, though Jesse, is actually very important. So in
Wang kim Ark, the fact pattern is that you have
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Chinese aliens here. So people who are sisens of China,
they're subject to what was then the King of China,
the Emperor of China. But they're here legally, they're not
illegal aliens. So of the relevant legal question was does
this child get Fourteenth Amendment birthright citizenship? And the answer
should have been no, for the reasons that I just
gave there is that even a legal alien does not
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have complete jurisdiction political allegiance. But even in this opinion,
and even in this opinion from Justice Horace Gray, which
the liberals love to quote. Here he goes over and
over and over again and makes a repeated point of
emphasizing that the Chinese alien here was actually a domicile,
had a legal permanent residence in San Francisco. Put another way,
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even the case that the liberals love the sight on
this point, Juan kim Mark only stands for the proposition
that the children of legal aliens have birthriseition is it
says nothing about the children of illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Where it goes off the rails.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Even further is eighty four years after that, in the
case out of your state of Texas called Pliler versus
Doe in nineteen eighty two, you had one of the
most liberal justices of the entire twentieth century, Justice William Brennan,
who literally drops in a footnote. And anyone who reads
cases knows that footnotes not legally binding. This is what
lawyers called dicta. He literally drops in a footnote, a
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very liberal justice and says, oh, by the way, Wan
kim Mark established that everyone gets birthrights is inship. Well know,
you freaking moron. It didn't establish that because they said
time and time again it has to do with those
who are domiciled to your legal aliens, not illegal aliens.
But for whatever reason, Jesse, ever since Wan kim Mark,
especially ever since Pliler versus, do people just automatically assume
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that the birthrights is in ship clause guarantees that anyone
born here gets it in ship. It is a misreading.
It is historically illiterate, it's legally illiterate, and has had
absolutely disastrous policy ramifications as well.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
All right, Josh, So you mentioned they are dealing with
the nationwide injunctions, and dare I say you sounded a
little bit hopeful what's going to happen?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:52):
So I'm actually much more hopeful on the injunction piece
of the puzzle than the birthrights is in ship. So
you know, as convinced as I am that what I'm
arguing is correct on the birth ris intionpoint, Jesse, I
don't think, unfortunately, that there are five votes for that proposition.
I genuinely don't. I think you're looking at literally probably two,
Clarence Thomas and Samuel Leo at the most. It actually
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wouldn't shock me if even one of them disagreed there,
because this is one of those things that just becomes
so well ingrained that even very very smart, very conservative,
very original justice have become convinced that this is actually
a very close call. So I'm actually unfortunately not optimistic
on the actual substance of fourteenth them in question. But
I am optimistic on the nation wan injunction issue, because
there you're being asked to basically define what is and
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what is not the judicial power in which Article three
of the Constitution speaks. And here Jesse is only a
very very recent history of the so called nation injunctions.
The very first so called nation y injunction literally didn't
happen until the late nineteen sixties. It was either Lyndon
Johnson or the Richard Nixon presidency, and they didn't proliferate
until the first Trump presidency. Donald Trump, when he was
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president the first time from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one,
faced more nation WI injunctions than the first forty four
presidents combined. This is a much more recent phenomenon. It
is risibly unconstitutional. The judicial power of the United States
clearly clearly only countenances only comprises the ability to issue
a judgment, a ruling that binds the name parties to
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a lawsuit, and more generally speaking, when it comes to
these very structural constitutional questions Article one, Article two, Article three,
separation of powers, checks and balances, these are typically the
kind of questions, Jesse, where I actually have faith in
even the more well I have some faith, let's say,
and even the more moderate justices c our Kavanaugh, Barrett,
John Roberts. There, all else considered, they're better on these
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questions and on these kind of you know, let's say,
kind of race adjacent questions such as birth, lay, sisenship.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Okay, well, that's something I guess, Josh as always, thank
you for that appreciation.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
We've talked for a long time about government corruption and
kind how it works. How Congress authorizes this new department
and funds for this new department, and the department hands
out grants to this group and that NGO in this group,
and of course all the money ends up going to
somebody's cousins, brother's uncle. Right, it never goes to the
sick puppy group that they said they set up. Luke
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Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, like we talked about, it's not a secret that
the modern day Democrat Party despises white people.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
In case you were.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
On the fence about that, I think the news coverage
of those fifty Africaners showing up pretty much pretty much
confirmed what everyone already knew. Democrats view white people as
the enemy. It's a really gross place to look at
society in that way. These this color is bad and
this color is good. But that's where we are. But
it goes to more than just news stories. You see
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it's your money is flowing to this kind of we'll
talk to Luke Razaike about that right about now joining
me now, Luke Razike, government efficiency reporter for the Daily Wire,
always finding good dirt on all these dirty communists. Hey, Luke,
what exactly is? I want to make sure I get
this right? The African Development Foundation, that sounds like a
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nice place.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah, it's like kind of like us aid's little brother,
and it's supposed to give money charitable grants to Africa.
But it turns out what it was doing is it
was having Africa secretly send some of that money need
back to them under the table, including wiring money directly
to DZ bureaucrat's personal bank accounts.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Okay, now I needed to go ahead and unpack everything
you just said for me right there. Wait, what we're
sending money to Africa and it's coming back to dec Okay,
the story is yours, The floor is yours.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
What So they're only allowed by law to give grants
to Africa, and obviously they want to make it seem
like they have very low overhead, and so they'd give
grants and they would kind of make agreements with these
African grantees that then we're going to tell you you're
gonna have to wire money to different places and you're
gonna have to do it. So if you've ever got
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those emails from the Nigerian princes that promise you that
you're going to wire money if you give them your
bank account, they actually figured out how to do this.
So there are bureaucrats in DC working at the office
at the headquarters of this government agency who are getting
wires from like random LLCs in Nigeria. So Congress thinks
the money has been given to Nigeria to help the
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poor orphans or whatever, but it's really helping them buy
a new Mercedes Benz to drive around in the Maryland
suburbs of DC. And so in one case, it's a
criminal investigation going into the chief financial officer of this agency,
a guy named Matthew Zaihu, who's an African immigrant himself.
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He was giving money to this company that purported to
be an African company. Well that was actually his friend,
another African American if you will, who was working at
the Department of Veterans Affairs living in the DC suburbs,
and then created this Kenyan firm that was receiving money
from the government agency and every time it got a contract,
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he would send money to his buddy. The chief financial
officer of this agency was given him the contracts. So
it sure looks like criminal kickbacks to steer government contracts
to his friend. And the USAID Inspector General executed a
search warrant like right before the election. So this dude
hasn't been arrested yet, but a lot of strange contracts
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going out for reasons that can't be explained, things like
travel costs during COVID when nobody was traveling. It seems
like criminal kickbacks. Maybe the explanation there may be an
arrest coming, it hasn't come yet. Other in other cases,
they would give grants that the Africans didn't want on
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the condition that they send some of the subcontract that
money back to the boss's friends or the boss's former
employer here in d C. So they were trying to
give out grants to like for like COVID masks, and
these people in Kenya were like, we don't need COVID masks.
We already have a ton of free masks. And they
were like, well, you're gonna do this grant anyway. So
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they're like foisting aid on Africans that they don't even
want because the purpose is to rout it back to
the DC bureaucrats.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Coud freaking griefubs.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Look, I'm not even shocks, but just hearing you lay
it out is so unbelievably gross. So I have kind
of a weird, stupid detail to ask about this, But
I am curious on the African side. Are there people
on the African side aiding this or is this all
out of Washington DC.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Well, it's funny because they train the Africans, they try
to make them less corrupt, like, oh, here in America,
we do things like if you're going to give out contracts,
you know you've got to get multiple bids. And so
there's like basically testimony from these employees from this DC
agency talking about how the Americans were actually trying to
get the Africans to be corrupt, and the Africans were like, well,
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this doesn't sound right. We should certainly compete a contract
if we're going to give it out, not give it
out to the CEO of this American company's friend. And
so this lady is talking about how uncomfortable it made her,
her feel that this situation has basically become reversed. But essentially, yeah,
I mean the African companies and grantees, they got to
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keep some of the money and in exchange they had
to give a portion of it back and wire it
to different places at the at the direction of these
government administrators. And one of them was, you know, a
guy named cd Glenn who had been a DEI officer
for the Peace Corps and then a Joe Biden appointee,
and then eventually he was succeeded by guy named Travis Adkins,
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who was also a political appointee by Joe Biden to
USA that dude hadn't paid his taxes. And there's a
sworn affidavit from a black staff member of this agency
that said that the CEO of this agency refused to
hire any white people, refused to hire veterans, and so
there's all kinds of sordid tales about how abusive these
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people were to their staff. We're told the first we
got to back up. The reason that all this came
to my attention is because this agency did not let
Doge come in their building when Doge said, we wanted
to take a look at at your financial books, They
locked the doors and DOGE actually had to hire the
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US to enlist the US marshals to like forcibly take
over the building. And so they were sort of lauded
by the left wing media. For The Guardian called them
the little Agency that could. They were standing up for
their principles. They were David versus Goliath, standing up to
Elon Musk. But one of the things that Musk has
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said is when people get really mad at DOGE, it's
probably because they.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Just have something to hide.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
And sure enough, if you talk to the employees at
this agency, that's what they'll tell you is absolutely they
locked the doors because their financial books are completely essentially criminal.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Luke, how deep does the rabbit hole go with this
kind of corruption in DC? Because the average person listening
to this, it's not that they're shocked, but again the
details being laid out so nakedly or there were a
lot to take in. Do you get the sense that
there's a lot of this that's been going on.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, And I mean so there were people from this
agency who were going to the Inspector General, who were
going to Congress and the Office of Special Counsel and
anyone who would listen, saying all the things they were doing,
how corrupt it was, how they were violating procurement rules
and personnel rules, they were paying people with little strange
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LLCs to hide the money, they were essentially laundering money
through Africa and back, doing all these things, some of
which were relatively easy to prove and cut and dry infractions,
and nobody ever did anything. And so finally their general
counsel said, you guys are breaking the law. You didn't
even file these ethics disclosures. You're giving out money to
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your friends. You can't do this stuff. And he was
a white guy, so they put him on leave, they
cut off all of his access to records that he
could use to prove their misconduct, and they wind up
basically framing him for death threats. And so this is
their general counsel. He's not like some crazy guy. He's
like the top lawyer of this agency was on the
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record saying that they're basically criminals. And so the USA
and IG didn't really do anything for years, which to
your point, it raises the question of, like, if all
this stuff that was being brought to their attention didn't
even it wasn't even a priority, then was this just
common across all of USA and stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
All Right? I have to ask before I let you go.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Luke Elon is stepping down as was always planned, and
RUSS Vote is taking over, which I love.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
But that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Right, We're not gonna We're gonna keep doing this auditing stuff, right.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yeah, RUSS Vote is amazing. The problem is Congress needs
to actually cut the appropriations because otherwise, what's the point
of removing all this waste if we're gonna give these
people the same amount of money anyway?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, no doubt, Luke, my brother as always outstanding work.
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
John Phillips is gonna join us next and we're gonna
talk about not just the Joe Biden cover up.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
We're gonna talk about twenty twenty eight. I know, I
know what you're thinking. Why do we add it's too early.
It's not too early.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It's twenty twenty five, halfway through it. Presidential campaign season
kicks off.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
In like six months.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
We are not far away from getting right back into it.
I know, isn't that kind of exhausting? But I want
to know what's going on out there before we talk
to John.
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talk to John Phillips next. I want to remind you
that what the American did with the American what the
American media did but Joe Biden was evil.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It was evil. It wasn't a mistake, and they weren't duped.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
They covered for the fact that the United States of
America did not have a functional president for four years.
And that is the fact that we are still paying
forward to this date. There is a chance Joe Biden's
disastrous presidency landed a mortal wound on this country, and
the American media should have stopped it before it happened,
should have exposed it while it was happening, but instead
they chose to cover it up. And now look, the
(32:24):
word kutzpah is a wonderful word. Now they're out there
wanting you to buy books about it and claiming that
they were simply lied to.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
The bottom line is the White House was lying not
only to the press, not only to the public, but
they were lying to members of their own cabinet. They
were lying to White House staffers, they were lying to
Democratic members of Congress, to donors about how bad things
had gotten.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
The real culprits are the people who are supposed to
be our sources on all these things, who were constantly
reassuring us behind the scenes. No, no, no, no, it's
better than you think.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think. I mean, I remember Jeffrey Katzenberg, just, oh no,
he's going to be great at the debates.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
He's already debated this guy a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
He's out there tell me, and this isn't off the
record settings and you're like, really, okay, I mean so
to me, the cover up is the people closest to
him in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, they covered it up. The dumbest, most uninformed people
I know knew Joe Biden had dementia a long time ago.
The American media covered it up. Don't let them, don't
let them get away with this.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Joining me now, John Phillips, host of The Wonderful John
Phillips Show. Hey John, they were just duped, these Washington
DC insiders.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
They had no idea at all.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Man, I almost feel bad for them.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
I love the fact that they act like this is
some kind of secret. When it was on television where
he spoke to a dead person, we all remember that.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It happened. I saw it, you saw it. They saw it.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
It's not like you need to sit next to him
on an airplane for ten hours to figure out that
the guy has a screw loose. As soon as he
had a full on conversation with a dead person in public,
the cat was out of the bag. Not to mention
all the times he fell going up the stairs, fell
on the stage, everything else that we saw on a
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daily basis, And the whole time this was going on,
they'd claim, oh, that was a deep fake. That's what
they said at the George Clooney fundraiser. That was a
doctored video. That wasn't true. In private, you should see
this guy. He's just putting Rubik's cubes together doing advance calculus.
The guy will blow you away in private. In public,
he's a buffone. But in private, man this guy gives
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Stephen Hawking a run for his money, and we knew
they were lying. They knew they were lying, but now
all of the sudden there on TV said we were tricked,
we were tripped. It was the people around him and
the White House that just snookered all of us. And
what they're trying to do is they're trying to do
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CYA right now because they're taking a position that's totally indefensible,
saying that that guy was all there mentally, and you
know what, we don't have to punish them. They don't
have to punish themselves. In part because of their really
bad behavior. They lost the election because all the normal
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people understood the guy was demented. All the normal people
understood that they lied to us, including Kamala, and I
think that hurt her in the presidential election more than
they're willing to admit. And now they have to sit
at home and they have to watch Donald Trump on
their television for four years. And I can't think of
a better way to end that story.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm pretty sure Stephen Hawkin could have outrun the guy
at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And it is funny.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I think It's fascinating how much this is in the news.
And it's not just because they're books. There are books that.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Are being written.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Democrat politicians are having to answer questions about this.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Here was Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
Did you really not have any idea that he was
not fit to serve a second term?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Casey, we're looking forward.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
We have the largest medicaid caught in front of us,
we have the cull federal government.
Speaker 9 (36:23):
All of this because you lost a presidential election. And
is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to run again.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
We're looking forward, that's it. That's it. We're looking forward.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
But they keep having to answer these questions. Why is
this in the news? John, That's what I want to know.
Is it because the media is trying to cover their butts?
The Democrats are trying to cover their butts very clearly they.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Think this issue is still damaging to them.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Right Well, if they weren't the ones that wrote the books,
there would be people who work for Joe Biden who
would write tell alls and the story would come out
that way. There's no way to put lipstick on the pig.
They lied on behalf of Joe Biden. They lied on
behalf of Joe Biden because they wanted him to win
the election and the Republicans to lose. There's no way
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to make them look good. So I guess they figured
why not just go ahead and profit from it by
putting our names on the tell alls and not the
Biden staffers who would end up writing these books. But
what people like Chuck Schumer did, in particular in Nancy
Pelosi and Barack Obama and the Democratic Party apparatus was
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even more sinister than what you described, because don't forget
they'd rid their primary so that Joe Biden would be
the nominee. They changed the calendar so that Joe Biden
couldn't lose. They knocked people off ballots, They canceled the
primary election in Florida. They never actually voted in the
primary in Florida. There's no need to have an election here.
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We know it's going to be Joe Biden. But it
wasn't even just that they covered up for him. They
put their fingers on the scale of the process so
that no one could challenge him, and no one could
defeat him, and no one could expose him for being
as out of it as he was. This is not
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Joe Biden screwing the Democratic Party. This was a choice
that they made to stick with Joe Biden in part
because they thought Kamala was so awful and unelectable.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
But they all controlled him.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
They benefited from him being in that feeble state, and
they all got what they want because this was essentially
four years of the country being run by committee, being
run by committee, of essentially being made up of the
power players within the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Speaking of screwing the Democratic Party, you recently had Willie
Brown on your show.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
What did he have to say?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
He said very interesting things, including the fact that he
said that in a private conversation with Kamala Harris back
when she was a US Senator, and this was before
Joe Biden chose her to be the vice president, when
she knew she was on the list, and she knew
that it was a possibility that she could be tapped
by Biden to be put on the ticket. He told
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her not to do it. He said, you're not ready.
This would not be a good move for you. You
should try to become the Attorney general or become a
different cabinet official, stay in the United States Senate.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Let the cookie bake in the oven a little bit longer,
and she got really mad at him and cut him
off and decided, who are you, Willie Brown, and tell
me what to do. I'm going to accept the vice presidency,
which she did, and then she ended up becoming the
Democratic nominee and losing the election, and now she's damaged goods,
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and now Willie thinks that it's highly unlikely that she's
going to be the Democratic Party nominee in twenty twenty eight.
And he said that had she listened to him and
not taken the vice presidency, she'd be in the catbird
seat right now, or as he said, still in the mix.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So who is going to be the twenty twenty eight guy?
Is it Pritzker Newsom? Is it the rear Admiral Buddha Jedge?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Who is it?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I'm not sure at this point because that party right
now is in complete disarray. You look at their polling
numbers and I don't recall a time where the Democrats
as a party have pulled so poorly as they are
right now, and you look at these names that you
just mentioned, Whether it's Gavin Newsom, Okay, right now, we're
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in shambles. Here in California. Go ahead, try to run
on that record. Good luck Buddha Jedge, who cannot get
any Black support at all in the Democratic primary. Kamala
Harris running again, Okay, she ran once before she lost.
She was not regarded highly regarded by Democratic Party powerbrokers,
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so why would you run that horse again? Elizabeth Warren, Okay,
she's nine hundred years old, and I don't know. Maybe
she'll want to spend more time with her family on
the tepee. Bernie Sanders is also a dinosaur. And then
you have the new crop where it's AOC who's been
traveling around the country with Bernie Sanders and she fancies
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herself as a candidate for president. And Jasmine Crockett, who
is their new star on social media, or Jasmine Effen Crockett.
I guess I should say, because every time she goes
on she sounds like a dirty club comic. I don't
know if any of those people match up well with
Jade Vince, particularly if the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Has a successful term. I don't see.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
How you run one of those horses and you beat him.
If things go to hell, then any of them can win,
because you have two choices but just looking at them
on paper right now, I don't know. Maybe this is
going to be something like two thousand and eight or
nineteen ninety two, where someone who's basically unknown comes out
of nowhere and wins. Maybe that's the possibility that could
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could happen. But right now I don't see any of
their mentioned names looking particularly strong.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Well, I ast you feel better, and I laughed, thank you, John,
come back sooner, brother, lighten the mood.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It's time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
And before I show you this video, I just want
to clarify something about being in Congress. And it's not
that I've ever been in Congress. I've tried twice. I
ran for Congress twice and lost both times, but in
so doing I ended up up going back and visiting
DC and sitting in Congress, meeting members of Congress several times.
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And I know it's going to sound juvenile. I really
genuinely know it is, but it was so boring. It's
not at all fancy like you may think it is.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
It's not glamorous in any way. These people have to
go to all these.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Committee meetings and don't think it's all the spicy stuff
we get to show you on television, you know, screaming
at Christopher Ray and all the confirmation hearing stuff. You're
sitting there in these committee hearings, listening to doctor nerd
Opine about I don't know, the special grasshoppers in Mongolia
or something like that, and these people look, they all
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look like they wanted to jump off a bridge.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
When I was sitting in.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
There, and actually I asked some members of Congress who
I've gotten to know, how is it, and almost verbatim,
every one of them said, oh my gosh, you can't
imagine how boring it is. So look, this video is hilarious.
A bunch of Democrats fell asleep in committee today. But
I'll tell you I sympathize.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Anyway. That's see it able.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Fisman
Let's talk about the law immigration in this country, how
democrats stand up for their side and we do not.
What's going on at the Supreme Court. Some big things
are about to happen. John Phillips talks about the next
presidential race.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I know it's crazy. All that and more coming up.
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let's talk about our system and how screwed up and
crazy our system.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Is in this country. And here's well, here's.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
An example I'll use from my own personal life. This
was a few years ago. We were having a Marine Corps,
a little get together from me and some of my
marine buddies were getting together and we're gonna go out
display round of golf, that's all catch up on old times,
a couple of beers, you know, normal things. And one
of my buddies initially said wasn't going to come, he
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wasn't going to be able to come.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And then.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
He texts us the day before and he says, hey,
I have great news, buddy. I begged my wife and
she's going to allow me to come golfing with you guys.
And of course, for him, he felt like this was
a huge win. It's great he gets to come golfing.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But for us. We were universally mortified by all this.
Your wife allowed you to go golfing with guys you
fought in a war.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
With, and you think that's a win. I think about
that when I look at what's happening in the country
right now. For instance, right now, we have a judge
who has backed Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act.
Trump used the Alien Enemies Act to deport these gang members.
(01:50):
He's saying, hey, Ms thirteen, that's a terrorist organization, So
I'm going to use the Alien Enemies Act to kick
these people out. Well, the court system stepped up. Another
judge stepped up and said, no, you can't do that.
And so now we have another judge who steps in
and says, no, actually you can do that. And I'm
supposed to celebrate this as some sort of a win.
(02:11):
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm happy the deportations
are about to commence. But where does that Where does
that put us as a country where deporting illegal alien
gang members, druggies, rapists, murderers, thieves. We have to get
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special permission from a random judge you've never heard of
before to allow the United States president to deport illegals
and I'm supposed to what.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm supposed to sit here and cheer.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I don't think I'm going to be cheering because I
don't think that says much about where we are as
a country.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Frankly, I think we're in a whole lot of trouble.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And now Trump Trump has to ask the Supreme Court,
ask the Supreme Court for things, or.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Try to demand. Hey, but we really need you to
allow us to do this.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And it's always something that's obviously his job and obviously constitutional.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But what does that say about us as a country.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
We have a criminal organization known as the Democrat Party
in the United States government operating openly here, and the
judicial system seems to be dedicated to allowing them.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And to be honest with you, I'm shocked we even
got one arrested. Remember that Wisconsin judge helped an illegal
alien escape by he said, of course, now she's facing
jail time. But let's talk about that for a moment.
Let's talk about what a step that was. Some communist
street animal tries to get an illegal alien out of custody.
You wouldn't be shocked, and I wouldn't be shocked. These
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people are stupid, mentally ill on welfare, have nothing to
live for, so they're going to go do these stupid
criminal acts. This lady has worked her way through law school,
worked her way up through the legal system, and now
is a judge, and she thought she was going to
be okay springing an illegal from ice custody.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What does that say about where we are as a country,
about the divide between the two parties. I mean, let's
talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, the mayor of Newark was arrested for protesting
outside of an ice facility, and a bunch of Democrat
members of Congress showed up and started assaulting federal agents
at the ice facility. Now we'll get to Christy Omes's
comments about that in just a moment, but just pause
and think about that for a moment.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Just pause and think about where we are. There are
two major political parties. I realized there other parties exist,
but there are two major ones, and one of the
two political parties it is completely dedicated to keeping illegal
alans in the country. How do we survive that. I'm
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supposed to celebrate them. Christy Nolan was talking about it
and said this.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We had members of Congress assaulting law enforcement officers. They
were cooperating with criminals to create criminal acts. And then
they're saying that they were providing oversight. This wasn't oversight.
This was committing felonies. So you're saying, if members of
Congress break the law, they're not going to get special treatment.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
They're going to be treated like any other US citizen.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
If they break the law, they're going to pay the price.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well, that's up to the Department of Justice.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's up to the Department of Justice.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm glad she's threw that out there, you see, because
I've been thinking a lot about.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Those Democrat members of Congress.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson has talked
about them, and well, maybe we can expel them off committees.
And I'm not sure about this. I'm not sure about that.
We're looking into every eye option, getting a whole lot
of hand wringing over the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
But that's funny.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Remember George Santos. Maybe you're not a George Santos fan.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't know him. I'm not a fan. I don't
know the guy.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But George Santos had accusations against him, accusations at the
time unproven accusations against him corruption, things like that the
GOP led House, not Democrats, Republicans and the House of Representatives.
They didn't just put out a statement, They didn't just
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kick him off committees. They expelled him from the United
States House of Representatives. So when faced with potential corruption,
Republicans immediately kicked out one of their own members and
narrowed our majority in Congress. That's how our side fights.
Would you like to see how their side fights?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Here was AOC.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
And now what DHS is trying to say again, they're
using public intimidation because they know that they cannot come
for us all. They know that they are not that
they cannot come for us all. And recently what they
said is that DHS is allegedly looking into arresting members
of Congress who were showing up for their legal and
(07:18):
constitutional obligation to conduct oversight. If anyone's breaking the law
in this situation, it's not members of Congress, it's the
Department of Homeland Security. It's people like Tom Homan and
Secretary Christy No you lay a finger on someone on
Representative Bonnie Watson Coleman, on Representative or any of the
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representatives that were there, you lay a finger on them,
we are going to have a problem.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Immediately they locked shields and issue threats. Don't think this
was just AOC being a wingnut. Minority Leader of King
Jeffries said the same time the.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Incident, if you said they better not touch our members, correct,
what happens if they were to go and arrest these
members or if they would try to sanction.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Them through the house works.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Don't find out what would you do though? I mean,
I don't find out.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Course, I mean, but does that broachange?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Don't find out?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
That's a red line?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
What's the what's the red line? Though?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I mean, I know we have this say it's a
red line.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's very clear.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's why the country's only moved to the left. I'm
mortified by where we are. Whatever, let's move off of
this stuff. I want to talk about many other things tonight.
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Speaker 2 (09:28):
Jesse, we'll be bad birthright citizenship. You are about to
hear that term a lot in the coming week, and
so let's just let's just get something out of the
way right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I really don't care about what anybody says about the issue.
It's completely insane for a country to automatically grant citizenship
because in illegal hop the border.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And had a baby in the country.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That is such a bonker's way to handle immigration citizenship.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's such a degrading way.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
To handle the citizenship of a country yet that has
been established policy in the United States of America for
a very long time.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Trump is challenging it, and good for Trump. What's the
Supreme Court going to do? What's the history behind all this?
I don't freaking know.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Let's talk to Josh joining me now, my buddy Josh Hammer,
host of the Josh Hammer Show, and of course authored
that wonderful book Israel and Civilization. Hey, Josh, before we
get into the idiot Supreme Court, can you give us
a little bit of background on this whole fourteenth Amendment thing?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Sure, of course, So Jesse, I hate to disappoint you,
my good friends, but just for your viewer's awareness, unfortunately
they're not really debating the Fourteenth Amendment issue at the
Supreme Court. This is basically going to be an oral
argument about the scope of the so called nationwide injunction.
So I care a lot about about the birth right.
There's suchi issue, and let's go ahead and talk about it.
(11:02):
But we're primarily dealing here with the nationwide injunction, which
is a very, very very important issue in its own right,
and I think that Scotus is probably well primed to
narrow the limits of what these rogue. Lower court judges
can and cannot rule when it comes to the scope
of the injunction. But with that, you know, important caveat aside,
let's talk about the fourteenth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
There.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
So, the Fourteenth Amendment begins with the clause. So the
very first clause is the decisionsive Clause, which famously includes
this qualifier. It says that all persons born in the
United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are hereby
citizens of the United States. Now, the purpose of this
clause is to overturn probably the single worst screen Court
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opinion in the entire history of the Supreme Court, the
eighteen fifty seven case called Dread Scott, which infamously held
that black people are not citizens? Can there are be citizens?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
There?
Speaker 7 (11:51):
That was the purpose there. The key thing that is
important for purposes of the substantive debate in the fourteenth
Amendment is that qualifiers subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Now,
for most of the past century, call it's a little
over a century, close to a century and a half
now at this point, actually, most people have read that
jurisdiction as just being like, okay, well, if you murder someone,
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then you can be arrested for that crime. Therefore, you
are in the jurisdiction. So, by that reading of what
it means to be subject to the jurisdiction Jesse, than
any alien, legal or illegal would be subject to the jurisdiction,
because if an illegal alien is here and happens to
murder someone, guess what, that alien's going to be arrested there. However,
I am many others have long argued that that is
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not the proper reading of subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
because the way that the Framers use this phrase here,
they were talking not just about territorial jurisdiction. They were
talking about something that we might refer to as political jurisdiction,
as owing your allegiance to a certain sovereign. In fact,
if you actually go back and look at what they
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were trying to do, the fourteen Men was ratified in
eighteen six eight, they were actually really just trying to
constitutionalize the Civil Rights Act of eighteen sixty six, which
was passed by Congress two years prior, and there the
drafters were actually a lot clear. They said, any person
born or naturalized in the United States and not subject
to a foreign power is therefore a citizen of the
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United States. There is so the better way to read
this Jesse, The best way to read the fourth amend
here is basically saying that you only automatically get birthrights
isenship if you are not subject to a foreign power.
So I would take it even further and say that
a proper reading of this cause means that the only
people that are constitutionally required to get birthrights isenship are
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people that are born here to US citizens. I would
argue that even the children of legal aliens, you're on
a green card here, Congress can give you birthrightsistionship. In fact,
maybe they actually even should. But even that is actually
not technically constitutionally required. But the notion that you would
automatically get birthrightsisenship as a children of an illegal alien
is flatting. That would have completely completely dumbfounded the very
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wise men who wrote this medment in eighteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Okay, so how did we get here that?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
How did we get It's obvious to everybody, It's obvious legally,
it's obvious.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
To just common sense people.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So how do we get to the place where we
have millions of people hoping the border crapping out a
kid and now the kid's a citizen.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
How did that happen?
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Look, Jesse, I mean, first of all, it's not even
a legal disaster, as you actually point out this, It's
an absolute policy and moral disaster. I mean, we literally
have an entire birth tourism industry here. I know that
because we just had our first child last December, and
when I went with my wife to the obgyn here
in South Florida where we live, you literally see foreign people,
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especially here in Florida's a lot of Russian speaking folks
from Eastern Europe that are literally just here for purposes
of getting a visa on their eighth ninth month of
pregnancy to pop out a child. So it's completely insane,
I mean, is it is an absolutely insane policy, To
say nothing, the way that it incentivizes the coyotes and
the cartels down in northern Mexico of the transport vulnerable
young women in the seventh and eighth month of pregnancy
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to get across the border. It's totally nuts. The basic
way that we got here is that. So for the
first two two and a half three decades after the
fourteenth them was ratified, So we're talking here of the
late nineteenth century. The Supreme Court actually got it right.
In fact, the very first time that the decisions cause
of the Fourth Amendment is actually explained is in an
eighteen seventy one case called the slaughter House Cases. And
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they're just as Samuel Miller reads it in the correct way,
this notion of complete jurisdiction, political allegiance, and so forth,
it starts to go off the rails a little bit
in an eighteen ninety eight case out of San Francisco
called Wang kim arc. So the fact pattern in Wang
kim Mark, though Jesse, is actually very important. So in
Wang kim Ark, the fact pattern is that you have
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Chinese aliens here. So people who are sisens of China,
they're subject to what was then the King of China,
the Emperor of China. But they're here legally, they're not
illegal aliens. So of the relevant legal question was does
this child get Fourteenth Amendment birthright citizenship? And the answer
should have been no, for the reasons that I just
gave there is that even a legal alien does not
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have complete jurisdiction political allegiance. But even in this opinion,
and even in this opinion from Justice Horace Gray, which
the liberals love to quote. Here he goes over and
over and over again and makes a repeated point of
emphasizing that the Chinese alien here was actually a domicile,
had a legal permanent residence in San Francisco. Put another way,
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even the case that the liberals love the sight on
this point, Juan kim Mark only stands for the proposition
that the children of legal aliens have birthriseition is it
says nothing about the children of illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Where it goes off the rails.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Even further is eighty four years after that, in the
case out of your state of Texas called Pliler versus
Doe in nineteen eighty two, you had one of the
most liberal justices of the entire twentieth century, Justice William Brennan,
who literally drops in a footnote. And anyone who reads
cases knows that footnotes not legally binding. This is what
lawyers called dicta. He literally drops in a footnote, a
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very liberal justice and says, oh, by the way, Wan
kim Mark established that everyone gets birthrights is inship. Well know,
you freaking moron. It didn't establish that because they said
time and time again it has to do with those
who are domiciled to your legal aliens, not illegal aliens.
But for whatever reason, Jesse, ever since Wan kim Mark,
especially ever since Pliler versus, do people just automatically assume
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that the birthrights is in ship clause guarantees that anyone
born here gets it in ship. It is a misreading.
It is historically illiterate, it's legally illiterate, and has had
absolutely disastrous policy ramifications as well.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
All right, Josh, So you mentioned they are dealing with
the nationwide injunctions, and dare I say you sounded a
little bit hopeful what's going to happen?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:52):
So I'm actually much more hopeful on the injunction piece
of the puzzle than the birthrights is in ship. So
you know, as convinced as I am that what I'm
arguing is correct on the birth ris intionpoint, Jesse, I
don't think, unfortunately, that there are five votes for that proposition.
I genuinely don't. I think you're looking at literally probably two,
Clarence Thomas and Samuel Leo at the most. It actually
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wouldn't shock me if even one of them disagreed there,
because this is one of those things that just becomes
so well ingrained that even very very smart, very conservative,
very original justice have become convinced that this is actually
a very close call. So I'm actually unfortunately not optimistic
on the actual substance of fourteenth them in question. But
I am optimistic on the nation wan injunction issue, because
there you're being asked to basically define what is and
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what is not the judicial power in which Article three
of the Constitution speaks. And here Jesse is only a
very very recent history of the so called nation injunctions.
The very first so called nation y injunction literally didn't
happen until the late nineteen sixties. It was either Lyndon
Johnson or the Richard Nixon presidency, and they didn't proliferate
until the first Trump presidency. Donald Trump, when he was
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president the first time from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one,
faced more nation WI injunctions than the first forty four
presidents combined. This is a much more recent phenomenon. It
is risibly unconstitutional. The judicial power of the United States
clearly clearly only countenances only comprises the ability to issue
a judgment, a ruling that binds the name parties to
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a lawsuit, and more generally speaking, when it comes to
these very structural constitutional questions Article one, Article two, Article three,
separation of powers, checks and balances, these are typically the
kind of questions, Jesse, where I actually have faith in
even the more well I have some faith, let's say,
and even the more moderate justices c our Kavanaugh, Barrett,
John Roberts. There, all else considered, they're better on these
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questions and on these kind of you know, let's say,
kind of race adjacent questions such as birth, lay, sisenship.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Okay, well, that's something I guess, Josh as always, thank
you for that appreciation.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
We've talked for a long time about government corruption and
kind how it works. How Congress authorizes this new department
and funds for this new department, and the department hands
out grants to this group and that NGO in this group,
and of course all the money ends up going to
somebody's cousins, brother's uncle. Right, it never goes to the
sick puppy group that they said they set up. Luke
(20:19):
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Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, like we talked about, it's not a secret that
the modern day Democrat Party despises white people.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
In case you were.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
On the fence about that, I think the news coverage
of those fifty Africaners showing up pretty much pretty much
confirmed what everyone already knew. Democrats view white people as
the enemy. It's a really gross place to look at
society in that way. These this color is bad and
this color is good. But that's where we are. But
it goes to more than just news stories. You see
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it's your money is flowing to this kind of we'll
talk to Luke Razaike about that right about now joining
me now, Luke Razike, government efficiency reporter for the Daily Wire,
always finding good dirt on all these dirty communists. Hey, Luke,
what exactly is? I want to make sure I get
this right? The African Development Foundation, that sounds like a
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nice place.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah, it's like kind of like us aid's little brother,
and it's supposed to give money charitable grants to Africa.
But it turns out what it was doing is it
was having Africa secretly send some of that money need
back to them under the table, including wiring money directly
to DZ bureaucrat's personal bank accounts.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Okay, now I needed to go ahead and unpack everything
you just said for me right there. Wait, what we're
sending money to Africa and it's coming back to dec Okay,
the story is yours, The floor is yours.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
What So they're only allowed by law to give grants
to Africa, and obviously they want to make it seem
like they have very low overhead, and so they'd give
grants and they would kind of make agreements with these
African grantees that then we're going to tell you you're
gonna have to wire money to different places and you're
gonna have to do it. So if you've ever got
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those emails from the Nigerian princes that promise you that
you're going to wire money if you give them your
bank account, they actually figured out how to do this.
So there are bureaucrats in DC working at the office
at the headquarters of this government agency who are getting
wires from like random LLCs in Nigeria. So Congress thinks
the money has been given to Nigeria to help the
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poor orphans or whatever, but it's really helping them buy
a new Mercedes Benz to drive around in the Maryland
suburbs of DC. And so in one case, it's a
criminal investigation going into the chief financial officer of this agency,
a guy named Matthew Zaihu, who's an African immigrant himself.
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He was giving money to this company that purported to
be an African company. Well that was actually his friend,
another African American if you will, who was working at
the Department of Veterans Affairs living in the DC suburbs,
and then created this Kenyan firm that was receiving money
from the government agency and every time it got a contract,
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he would send money to his buddy. The chief financial
officer of this agency was given him the contracts. So
it sure looks like criminal kickbacks to steer government contracts
to his friend. And the USAID Inspector General executed a
search warrant like right before the election. So this dude
hasn't been arrested yet, but a lot of strange contracts
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going out for reasons that can't be explained, things like
travel costs during COVID when nobody was traveling. It seems
like criminal kickbacks. Maybe the explanation there may be an
arrest coming, it hasn't come yet. Other in other cases,
they would give grants that the Africans didn't want on
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the condition that they send some of the subcontract that
money back to the boss's friends or the boss's former
employer here in d C. So they were trying to
give out grants to like for like COVID masks, and
these people in Kenya were like, we don't need COVID masks.
We already have a ton of free masks. And they
were like, well, you're gonna do this grant anyway. So
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they're like foisting aid on Africans that they don't even
want because the purpose is to rout it back to
the DC bureaucrats.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Coud freaking griefubs.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Look, I'm not even shocks, but just hearing you lay
it out is so unbelievably gross. So I have kind
of a weird, stupid detail to ask about this, But
I am curious on the African side. Are there people
on the African side aiding this or is this all
out of Washington DC.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Well, it's funny because they train the Africans, they try
to make them less corrupt, like, oh, here in America,
we do things like if you're going to give out contracts,
you know you've got to get multiple bids. And so
there's like basically testimony from these employees from this DC
agency talking about how the Americans were actually trying to
get the Africans to be corrupt, and the Africans were like, well,
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this doesn't sound right. We should certainly compete a contract
if we're going to give it out, not give it
out to the CEO of this American company's friend. And
so this lady is talking about how uncomfortable it made her,
her feel that this situation has basically become reversed. But essentially, yeah,
I mean the African companies and grantees, they got to
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keep some of the money and in exchange they had
to give a portion of it back and wire it
to different places at the at the direction of these
government administrators. And one of them was, you know, a
guy named cd Glenn who had been a DEI officer
for the Peace Corps and then a Joe Biden appointee,
and then eventually he was succeeded by guy named Travis Adkins,
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who was also a political appointee by Joe Biden to
USA that dude hadn't paid his taxes. And there's a
sworn affidavit from a black staff member of this agency
that said that the CEO of this agency refused to
hire any white people, refused to hire veterans, and so
there's all kinds of sordid tales about how abusive these
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people were to their staff. We're told the first we
got to back up. The reason that all this came
to my attention is because this agency did not let
Doge come in their building when Doge said, we wanted
to take a look at at your financial books, They
locked the doors and DOGE actually had to hire the
(27:44):
US to enlist the US marshals to like forcibly take
over the building. And so they were sort of lauded
by the left wing media. For The Guardian called them
the little Agency that could. They were standing up for
their principles. They were David versus Goliath, standing up to
Elon Musk. But one of the things that Musk has
(28:04):
said is when people get really mad at DOGE, it's
probably because they.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Just have something to hide.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
And sure enough, if you talk to the employees at
this agency, that's what they'll tell you is absolutely they
locked the doors because their financial books are completely essentially criminal.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Luke, how deep does the rabbit hole go with this
kind of corruption in DC? Because the average person listening
to this, it's not that they're shocked, but again the
details being laid out so nakedly or there were a
lot to take in. Do you get the sense that
there's a lot of this that's been going on.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, And I mean so there were people from this
agency who were going to the Inspector General, who were
going to Congress and the Office of Special Counsel and
anyone who would listen, saying all the things they were doing,
how corrupt it was, how they were violating procurement rules
and personnel rules, they were paying people with little strange
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LLCs to hide the money, they were essentially laundering money
through Africa and back, doing all these things, some of
which were relatively easy to prove and cut and dry infractions,
and nobody ever did anything. And so finally their general
counsel said, you guys are breaking the law. You didn't
even file these ethics disclosures. You're giving out money to
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your friends. You can't do this stuff. And he was
a white guy, so they put him on leave, they
cut off all of his access to records that he
could use to prove their misconduct, and they wind up
basically framing him for death threats. And so this is
their general counsel. He's not like some crazy guy. He's
like the top lawyer of this agency was on the
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record saying that they're basically criminals. And so the USA
and IG didn't really do anything for years, which to
your point, it raises the question of, like, if all
this stuff that was being brought to their attention didn't
even it wasn't even a priority, then was this just
common across all of USA and stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
All Right? I have to ask before I let you go.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Luke Elon is stepping down as was always planned, and
RUSS Vote is taking over, which I love.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
But that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Right, We're not gonna We're gonna keep doing this auditing stuff, right.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yeah, RUSS Vote is amazing. The problem is Congress needs
to actually cut the appropriations because otherwise, what's the point
of removing all this waste if we're gonna give these
people the same amount of money anyway?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, no doubt, Luke, my brother as always outstanding work.
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
John Phillips is gonna join us next and we're gonna
talk about not just the Joe Biden cover up.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
We're gonna talk about twenty twenty eight. I know, I
know what you're thinking. Why do we add it's too early.
It's not too early.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It's twenty twenty five, halfway through it. Presidential campaign season
kicks off.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
In like six months.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
We are not far away from getting right back into it.
I know, isn't that kind of exhausting? But I want
to know what's going on out there before we talk
to John.
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talk to John Phillips next. I want to remind you
that what the American did with the American what the
American media did but Joe Biden was evil.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It was evil. It wasn't a mistake, and they weren't duped.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
They covered for the fact that the United States of
America did not have a functional president for four years.
And that is the fact that we are still paying
forward to this date. There is a chance Joe Biden's
disastrous presidency landed a mortal wound on this country, and
the American media should have stopped it before it happened,
should have exposed it while it was happening, but instead
they chose to cover it up. And now look, the
(32:24):
word kutzpah is a wonderful word. Now they're out there
wanting you to buy books about it and claiming that
they were simply lied to.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
The bottom line is the White House was lying not
only to the press, not only to the public, but
they were lying to members of their own cabinet. They
were lying to White House staffers, they were lying to
Democratic members of Congress, to donors about how bad things
had gotten.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
The real culprits are the people who are supposed to
be our sources on all these things, who were constantly
reassuring us behind the scenes. No, no, no, no, it's
better than you think.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think. I mean, I remember Jeffrey Katzenberg, just, oh no,
he's going to be great at the debates.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
He's already debated this guy a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
He's out there tell me, and this isn't off the
record settings and you're like, really, okay, I mean so
to me, the cover up is the people closest to
him in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, they covered it up. The dumbest, most uninformed people
I know knew Joe Biden had dementia a long time ago.
The American media covered it up. Don't let them, don't
let them get away with this.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Joining me now, John Phillips, host of The Wonderful John
Phillips Show. Hey John, they were just duped, these Washington
DC insiders.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
They had no idea at all.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Man, I almost feel bad for them.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
I love the fact that they act like this is
some kind of secret. When it was on television where
he spoke to a dead person, we all remember that.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It happened. I saw it, you saw it. They saw it.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
It's not like you need to sit next to him
on an airplane for ten hours to figure out that
the guy has a screw loose. As soon as he
had a full on conversation with a dead person in public,
the cat was out of the bag. Not to mention
all the times he fell going up the stairs, fell
on the stage, everything else that we saw on a
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daily basis, And the whole time this was going on,
they'd claim, oh, that was a deep fake. That's what
they said at the George Clooney fundraiser. That was a
doctored video. That wasn't true. In private, you should see
this guy. He's just putting Rubik's cubes together doing advance calculus.
The guy will blow you away in private. In public,
he's a buffone. But in private, man this guy gives
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Stephen Hawking a run for his money, and we knew
they were lying. They knew they were lying, but now
all of the sudden there on TV said we were tricked,
we were tripped. It was the people around him and
the White House that just snookered all of us. And
what they're trying to do is they're trying to do
(35:12):
CYA right now because they're taking a position that's totally indefensible,
saying that that guy was all there mentally, and you
know what, we don't have to punish them. They don't
have to punish themselves. In part because of their really
bad behavior. They lost the election because all the normal
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people understood the guy was demented. All the normal people
understood that they lied to us, including Kamala, and I
think that hurt her in the presidential election more than
they're willing to admit. And now they have to sit
at home and they have to watch Donald Trump on
their television for four years. And I can't think of
a better way to end that story.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm pretty sure Stephen Hawkin could have outrun the guy
at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And it is funny.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I think It's fascinating how much this is in the news.
And it's not just because they're books. There are books that.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Are being written.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Democrat politicians are having to answer questions about this.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Here was Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
Did you really not have any idea that he was
not fit to serve a second term?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Casey, we're looking forward.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
We have the largest medicaid caught in front of us,
we have the cull federal government.
Speaker 9 (36:23):
All of this because you lost a presidential election. And
is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to run again.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
We're looking forward, that's it. That's it. We're looking forward.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
But they keep having to answer these questions. Why is
this in the news? John, That's what I want to know.
Is it because the media is trying to cover their butts?
The Democrats are trying to cover their butts very clearly they.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Think this issue is still damaging to them.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Right Well, if they weren't the ones that wrote the books,
there would be people who work for Joe Biden who
would write tell alls and the story would come out
that way. There's no way to put lipstick on the pig.
They lied on behalf of Joe Biden. They lied on
behalf of Joe Biden because they wanted him to win
the election and the Republicans to lose. There's no way
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to make them look good. So I guess they figured
why not just go ahead and profit from it by
putting our names on the tell alls and not the
Biden staffers who would end up writing these books. But
what people like Chuck Schumer did, in particular in Nancy
Pelosi and Barack Obama and the Democratic Party apparatus was
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even more sinister than what you described, because don't forget
they'd rid their primary so that Joe Biden would be
the nominee. They changed the calendar so that Joe Biden
couldn't lose. They knocked people off ballots, They canceled the
primary election in Florida. They never actually voted in the
primary in Florida. There's no need to have an election here.
(37:57):
We know it's going to be Joe Biden. But it
wasn't even just that they covered up for him. They
put their fingers on the scale of the process so
that no one could challenge him, and no one could
defeat him, and no one could expose him for being
as out of it as he was. This is not
(38:17):
Joe Biden screwing the Democratic Party. This was a choice
that they made to stick with Joe Biden in part
because they thought Kamala was so awful and unelectable.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
But they all controlled him.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
They benefited from him being in that feeble state, and
they all got what they want because this was essentially
four years of the country being run by committee, being
run by committee, of essentially being made up of the
power players within the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Speaking of screwing the Democratic Party, you recently had Willie
Brown on your show.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
What did he have to say?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
He said very interesting things, including the fact that he
said that in a private conversation with Kamala Harris back
when she was a US Senator, and this was before
Joe Biden chose her to be the vice president, when
she knew she was on the list, and she knew
that it was a possibility that she could be tapped
by Biden to be put on the ticket. He told
(39:19):
her not to do it. He said, you're not ready.
This would not be a good move for you. You
should try to become the Attorney general or become a
different cabinet official, stay in the United States Senate.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Let the cookie bake in the oven a little bit longer,
and she got really mad at him and cut him
off and decided, who are you, Willie Brown, and tell
me what to do. I'm going to accept the vice presidency,
which she did, and then she ended up becoming the
Democratic nominee and losing the election, and now she's damaged goods,
(39:54):
and now Willie thinks that it's highly unlikely that she's
going to be the Democratic Party nominee in twenty twenty eight.
And he said that had she listened to him and
not taken the vice presidency, she'd be in the catbird
seat right now, or as he said, still in the mix.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So who is going to be the twenty twenty eight guy?
Is it Pritzker Newsom? Is it the rear Admiral Buddha Jedge?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Who is it?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I'm not sure at this point because that party right
now is in complete disarray. You look at their polling
numbers and I don't recall a time where the Democrats
as a party have pulled so poorly as they are
right now, and you look at these names that you
just mentioned, Whether it's Gavin Newsom, Okay, right now, we're
(40:45):
in shambles. Here in California. Go ahead, try to run
on that record. Good luck Buddha Jedge, who cannot get
any Black support at all in the Democratic primary. Kamala
Harris running again, Okay, she ran once before she lost.
She was not regarded highly regarded by Democratic Party powerbrokers,
(41:07):
so why would you run that horse again? Elizabeth Warren, Okay,
she's nine hundred years old, and I don't know. Maybe
she'll want to spend more time with her family on
the tepee. Bernie Sanders is also a dinosaur. And then
you have the new crop where it's AOC who's been
traveling around the country with Bernie Sanders and she fancies
(41:29):
herself as a candidate for president. And Jasmine Crockett, who
is their new star on social media, or Jasmine Effen Crockett.
I guess I should say, because every time she goes
on she sounds like a dirty club comic. I don't
know if any of those people match up well with
Jade Vince, particularly if the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Has a successful term. I don't see.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
How you run one of those horses and you beat him.
If things go to hell, then any of them can win,
because you have two choices but just looking at them
on paper right now, I don't know. Maybe this is
going to be something like two thousand and eight or
nineteen ninety two, where someone who's basically unknown comes out
of nowhere and wins. Maybe that's the possibility that could
(42:16):
could happen. But right now I don't see any of
their mentioned names looking particularly strong.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Well, I ast you feel better, and I laughed, thank you, John,
come back sooner, brother, lighten the mood.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It's time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
And before I show you this video, I just want
to clarify something about being in Congress. And it's not
that I've ever been in Congress. I've tried twice. I
ran for Congress twice and lost both times, but in
so doing I ended up up going back and visiting
DC and sitting in Congress, meeting members of Congress several times.
(43:06):
And I know it's going to sound juvenile. I really
genuinely know it is, but it was so boring. It's
not at all fancy like you may think it is.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
It's not glamorous in any way. These people have to
go to all these.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Committee meetings and don't think it's all the spicy stuff
we get to show you on television, you know, screaming
at Christopher Ray and all the confirmation hearing stuff. You're
sitting there in these committee hearings, listening to doctor nerd
Opine about I don't know, the special grasshoppers in Mongolia
or something like that, and these people look, they all
(43:47):
look like they wanted to jump off a bridge.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
When I was sitting in.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
There, and actually I asked some members of Congress who
I've gotten to know, how is it, and almost verbatim,
every one of them said, oh my gosh, you can't
imagine how boring it is. So look, this video is hilarious.
A bunch of Democrats fell asleep in committee today. But
I'll tell you I sympathize.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Anyway. That's see it able.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
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