September 19, 2024 • 46 mins
(Full Show) Jesse Kelly was Tucker Carlson's special guest in Rosenberg, Texas as part of Tucker's live tour. Jesse looks back on his best moments from the tour and provides behind-the-scenes interviews with Tucker Carlson, Nicole Shanahan and Michael Berry. Jesse also catches up with Carol Roth to discuss the federal reserve slashing interest rates. If you're looking for Jesse's full interview with Tucker Carlson, it's available on all his channels.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
We have a show full of interviews for you. Tucker
Carlson Live happened last night. We have a backstage interview
with Tucker, a backstage interview with Nicole Shanahan, Michael Barry,
Carol Roth joins us to talk talk about the interest
rate stuff, all that and more coming up on them right.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And that is Jesse's.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Kenny, my friend Joseph.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That was the intro last night, Tucker Carls and Live
happened in Rosenberg, Texas. I was the guest of honor,
the headliner. I guess Tucker was probably the headliner. But
it was an amazing time. It was so great being
with just the people just hanging out talking politics, and
(01:17):
sure seemed like they enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's because the dirty demons who want to hurt you
lay awake at night dreaming about it, and they are
so mad that they can't because we.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Are the most armed freaking people on the planet. We
had the guns, we have the AMMO, and that's why
the matter.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
These commies are always trying you see it with every
Democrat who talks today, they're always trying to straddle this line,
which is really Kamala. Here's a specialty given her beginning,
but you do, She's always what what what? This state
should already ready right now, they should already be re
(02:02):
oienting the state police Texas Rangers to stand as a
bulwark between Texans and the federal government that is evil.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They alreadys should be doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
But instead we have John freaking Cornyan as a Senate.
We have a primary voter problem because the reddest states
they are sending the most putrid losers to Washington, d C.
John Thune, John Cornyan, Mitch McConnell. What is that James
(02:39):
Langford naked Kendall Langford out of Oklahoma? These people are
from our reddest state. Naked Ken Doll? Have you ever
seen a naked Ken Doll? No, there's no nothing there.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So now I'm not bragging. I've never taken off Ken's pants,
but it's.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Just well, believe me, that's what you're gonna find if
you ever did o James like.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
But the point is feeling that.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It was a good time and look, obviously there were
laughs to be had, as you can see, there was
plenty of serious talk as well.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Do you feel any hope and if so, why, Oh,
we're gonna win we're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I know that you're afraid. I get afraid. I know
you're sad.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm sad.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I love this place right I would die for it.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It hurts watching these people tear it up. I know
it hurts.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
But I'm here to tell you something. They're more afraid
than you are. They're afraid we're going to wake up.
They're afraid we're going to get involved. They're afraid we're
gonna go to their little fiefdoms of power at the
little library or congress or school board wherever it is,
and take their power away from them.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
They're afraid of you.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Speaking the way you want to speak on social media.
They're afraid of the fact that your guns. The demons
are more afraid of you than you are of them.
The darkness is afraid of the light. The light does
not fear the darkness, and they should be afraid. I
(04:27):
want to make sure I'm very crystal clear about that,
and you can clip it all day long, Yukami scumbags
come knock on my freaking door. They should be afraid because,
as I mentioned in the beginning, they are wrong. They
are evil. What they want is awful for this country.
(04:48):
What you want is wonderful and good. We want a
country surrounded by family and community, a country led by
God and decent people. We want to be led by
people who are better than what we have now. And
if we stand up and I see it happening everywhere,
we can have that. It is time to stop being
(05:09):
afraid like you are and like I am, and it
is time to start making them afraid. Good guys don't
get afraid. They need to be ones that were afraid
of us.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And we can do that. There's a new sheriff in town.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jesse Kelly, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Pretty fun?
Speaker 6 (05:29):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You know what else is fun? Interest rate cuts. We
got to cut in the interest rates. That's a good thing,
right right?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Let's ask Carol joining me now, Carol Roth. I just
mentioned her because I need to know what I'm supposed
to make of an interest rate cut. Carol, that you
have educated us so many times, by the way, everyone Carol,
author of so many books, her book You Will Own
Nothing is when you really should be picking up right now.
But Carol, you've educated us on finances, on interest rates,
(06:01):
on inflation.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So many times.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So I was confused inflation is still bad. Why are
they cutting interest rates? Because it was always my understanding
that interest rates have to go up or stay up
to try to keep inflation down.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
What am I missing, Carol?
Speaker 7 (06:18):
What you're missing, Jesse, is that Jerom Powell is unburdened
by what has been and now we are in a
rate cutting environment.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Listen, he has a quote unquote dual mandate.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
One side he's trying to keep inflation from getting too high.
Obviously has done a pi poor job with that. The
other side trying to keep the labor market steady and
the economy from cracking. So theoretically has kind of done
an okay job with that, except for the fact that
we know all of the job's numbers are made up
out of thin air. So I have thought all along
(06:55):
that we have had interest rates that are too high
and that he has has been behind the curve in
terms of bringing them down. That being said, when you
have out of the blue a fifty bases point cut,
it does create a signal, and the signal could be interpreted,
particularly given this dual mandate, that he is now less
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concerned about the growth of inflation, not inflation, because we
know cumulatively that's been terrible. But he is less concerned
about that, or at least being able to impact that,
because as I said, I don't think his policies really
impacted that has come from other factors. But he is
very concerned potentially, even though he told us the economy
is great, but the telegraphing is that he is concerned
(07:41):
about what could be happening in the jobs market and
what that means for the economy. And if you think
about what's been happening with some of the white collar
jobs in particular, we have seen more layoffs coming from
the tech industry. We've seen Amazon saying everybody has to
come back to the office five days a week.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
That's a big leverage shift.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
It used to be that the labor markets at the jobs,
the workers they could dictate. Now, you know, we just
feel like coming in, you know, one day a week
or not at all. Now that leverage has turned. And
if you read that press release from Amazon, they also
said they're looking to get rid of some managers. So
the people who have been propping up the economy while
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the middle class has been struggling to pay for their
food and pay for their rents, Now we're seeing more layoffs.
We're seeing some potential weakness there, and so I do
think that is what is being telegraphed here, even though
he told us that he feels like the economy is strong.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, so are we going to see inflation or do
you think I guess I should ask, do you think
we're going to see inflation skyrocket now that they're cutting
these rates? If they're cutting them to benefit Amazon or
whoever they're cutting them for whatever reason, isn't that going
to make inflation worse?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
So there are two parts of this question. One is
what's going to happen to inflation? And is it related
to what the FED has done? Will we likely see
inflation tick up again? Absolutely, and that's because of the
government deads and deficits and the fact that we will
probably down the lot and have to monetize. Though, so
do I expect we will see an uptick inflation at
some point?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Do I think that cutting fifty basis points, going from
above five percent to four three quarters to five percent
is going to unleash inflation? Not in this context. And
the context that we have is we have very high
interest rates. We had fifteen years where people had basically
zero or near zero interest rates where they could take
(09:42):
on a lot of debt individually or for their companies.
So is there going to be massive demand that is
unleashed now that the FED funds rate is at four
seven five to five.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
It is above something that we call the neutral rate,
the neutral rate, which is radical. We don't know exactly
what it is, but the neutral rate is that dividing
line between type policy and accommodative policy, and it basically
signifies that the Fed's policy does neither.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
It's neutral, so to speak.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
So I think we are far enough above that neutral
rate to not have that create an impact on inflation.
That being set, this is kicking off a cycle.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
This is not a one and done.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
As far as they're projecting, we're seeing potentially another half
a percent coming in the next two meetings, maybe another
one percent next year. So to the extent that they
do keep lowering the rates and they go past that
neutral rate into a commodate of territory, and again nobody
knows what it is.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
They're just guessing.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Like with everything else, that's when you can see the
inflation recognized. So we're probably not seeing it based on
these actions, but it kicks off that chain of future
actions that we have to keep our eye on.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Carol, we got about a minute left and I had
to ask, do you think this is a political decision?
As soon as I saw it, that was my first suspicion, right,
But I don't want to I don't want to make
that accusation without hearing from Carol Roth.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Was this about the election?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
So it's certainly the optics of it are not great
to have, you know, right before the election. The last
FED meeting a fifty basis point cut. That being said,
it depends on how you read the signal, and I
guarantee what team you're on is going to be depending
on how you read the signal. If you're in Kamala
Harris's camp, you're going to say, see, inflation is under control.
(11:34):
The FED feels confident about it, Otherwise they wouldn't have
given us as cut.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
However, if you are in Trump's camp, you're going to.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Say, well, the only thing that Biden administration has said,
the Biden Harris administration has touted is that they've done
so great with jobs, and oh no, now the FED
is concerned about jobs and they have to start lowering
rates in order to preempt the economy if we completely
churning over so politically, you could interpret it that either way,
(12:01):
and I'm certain that you will see it interpreted both ways.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, I'm certain you're right, Carol. Thank you, ma'am. As always,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Good pleasure.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Last night, Tucker Carlson's doing this massive tour Tucker Carlson
Live with a special guest in every city. Well, last
night he came to my area. That in the Houston area.
He did one in Rosenberg, Texas, very close to Houston,
and I was his guest last night. So we chatted.
We chatted a lot. It's really gonna be a good
(12:35):
show for you tonight. And I'm right before we get
to any of that, I'm going to get to this.
I want to talk about your sleep. You see, I
slept like a little baby last night. How could I
sleep like a little baby when I got home from
that big event and I was all jazzed up. I
got home and I made myself a little cup of
hot chocolate, cinnamon hot chocolate, actually only it was dream
(13:00):
powder from Beam.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's delicious. If I didn't tell you that's what it was.
You'd never know.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's one of the best cups hot chocolate I've ever had.
But it's all natural stuff, melatonin and things. And as
jazzed up as I was, sat there, talked with the wife,
a little cup of hot chocolate, just went to bed
and went to sleep, and then when I woke up
this morning, came rocketing out of bed, worked out this morning.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Ready to go.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
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You'll always have one. We'll be back, Welcome back to
(13:43):
I'm right. And you know, we had the big Tucker
Carlson Live event last night. Well before we were all
out on stage together under the lights, we had some
time back in the green room.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
How crazy he's had us back in a green room.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Anyway, we were sitting back there in the green room
and was I eating chips? Yes, I was, But Tucker
decided to come back and join me, and we just
sat down five six minutes and just kind of shot
the breeze about stuff, not political stuff, lots of it
was stupid stuff, but I think you enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Here it is, Tucker. Do you own an ice maker?
Portable ice maker? Are you making fun of me? No?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
I wanted an ice maker last night at Amazon in
my hotel room.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Really, actually, yes, because you're gonna give me any credit
for that?
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Or how did you know that?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
You're freaking me out? You're the only honestly, how did
you know that? I did it for an ice bath
because my ice maker is inadequate, so I just ordered
a three hundred pound ice maker.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
But I don't know unless you have my password, how
would you know that?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No, that's mine's a little it's a little different. Mine's
mine's more about the size of a shoe box.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It's not wired into anything at the house. But it's
a portable ice maker, you see. And we have unlimited
ice now in our house and we've had it for
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm pretty proud of it.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I don't know how you knew that I haven't had
an ice maker in twenty two years. Last time an
ice maker, I lost control with the Scotch and.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I had to quit drinking.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You got one of those ones where you like plug
your glass into the refrigerator and it fills it.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Up with ice, and I was like, oh wow, I
can just like pour Scotch in there, and and then
you know, that was it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The quitting drinking.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, I get emails all the time from guys who
are struggling to quit drinking. I can't how do I
quit drink? And how do I quit drink? And I'm
in sales, how do I quit drinking? A lot of
their concerns seems to be my life's going to be over,
my friends are going to leave me, I can't do
my job correctly.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
How's it been quitting drinking? What's the beginning of life
for me?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I mean, for most people who drink in a happy way, it's,
you know, it's it's it's an addition to their lives.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
But for people who are harmed by it.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
It's, you know, it's a nightmare. You'd rather have cancer
than alcoholism. And so getting out of it is difficult
at first because you have withdrawals that are real. They're
more real than you ever imagine or that anyone ever
tells you. Once you get past that, you know, your
personality fills in the space where the news was like,
you find your personality getting bigger. Actually, alcohol when you
(16:04):
drink too much, not like a normal person like you,
but it stunts you, It makes you afraid, It kind
of holds you in childhood. You can't become full of
yourself when you're drunk all the time. So no, I mean,
it's the greatest thing I've ever done.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I would imagine. I would imagine your mind works
better now than ever before.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Well, I'm fifty five, so my mind is declining in
its acuity, and I'm just getting muddier and grumpier. And
I can't really articulate why I hate everything about modernity.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I just do.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
It's what.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I don't have a TV because I want to see it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
But I can tell you that your emotions become really
clear and you can connect with people. I mean, again,
it's very hard to quit drinking. If you keep drinking
long enough, you just you can't quit. But there is
a window in my just observation where you start to
realize this is a problem.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Then is the time to quit.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
And basically once you quit, your realize everybody had a
drug or alcohol problem. There's not a single family where
there's not some snarfing addict.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
You know, maybe to be embarrassed about it at all?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Do you think it's annoying sometimes to be famous and
you can't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You can't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You can't go into Red Lobster, you can't you can't
go to Paris, you can't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Is it annoying? You know?
Speaker 6 (17:17):
I kind of resolve not to whine about it. I could,
I could write a book about it.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Actually, yeah, it's the only thing I would say without whining,
which is whenever you know, I hear people say I
want to be famous, or people want to be famous,
it's like they you know, it really is like asking
for shingles or something.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Like under stand way anyone would want that.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I've lived there for all, you know, many years, so
I'm used to it. But it's not a life and
ancer at all. Anonymity is a life and ancer. Well,
unlimited Red Lobster doesn't hurt. They're coming out of bankruptcy,
is that true? They're coming out of bankruptcy like a
phoenix rising from the ashes.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
There's some new hot CEO. He said, he's got them
all squared away.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I'm pretty and it gave my first speech in nineteen
ninety three, at the Red Lobster in Nord Little Rock, Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Do you give a speech at red Locks? I did.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I gave it to Red Lobster, to the Kowanas Club.
Someone in the newsroom in the newspaper where I worked
asked if I would give a speech a lunch He
called it a lunch speech. So was it the Red
Lobster in North Little Rock? And I had some Alaskan
snow crab and just killed it.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, well, I'm it's Red Lobster. It's the best. There
is really the best. There is a tour.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I will tell you I did a very very mini tour,
much smaller than this kind of a thing you were doing.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But for the book I wrote huge best selling book.
It was amazing. I don't want to brag about.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It, but in that but but I wrote this book.
We did a mini tours only like five six stops.
It was actually more exhausting than you think it is
because you never stop. You get off a plane, you
get right on this, you go to this, you go
to that.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It it's tiring.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean the problem for me really is just eating,
you know what I mean, which you have to do.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
And I've quit a lot of poisonous things that I want,
you know, cigarettes, alcohol, drug you know, all that tuff,
all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Sorry, but I was having dinner with my cousins last
night in Houston, and it's like, let's get dessert, and
then I just become disgusting, disgusting, and so keep you know,
I'm not a womanizer, I'm not. I really kind of
have a chief self control in a lot of important areas.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
But dessert, I just can't. I just can't deal with it.
I'm just like a dog. I mean, I had a
chocolate moose cake.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Of some kind with raspberry sauce, and I looked up
from its crumbs and felt embarrassment because I realized I
blacked out while eating. It's like, so you just you
channel all that celibacy and sadness into dessert.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
You eat your feelings, and it's that is hard for me.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, I'm I'm the worst at that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
My lovely wife over there will tell you it's really no,
it's extremely with you.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
You don't need to dessert, my wife left.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
No, No, it's extremely unhealthy. Food will actually govern my meal.
If I have had a good meal, I am so
much more pleasant to be around. If I've had, if
I've had, if I've strung two together, bad breakfast, bad lunch.
Just give me a wide berth. I'm not gonna be
nice for a while. I find just the opposite.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I fast, you know, after breakfast on the day that
I you know, if we got a show or whatever,
I can't eat. And the longer I go with that eating,
the happier I am. I feel so oppressed by the
chocolate moose cake and the raspberry sauce and the fries
that preceded it, and the mushroom ravioli that came before that,
and the mushroom stop.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
The toast, I know it was, it was. It was
a large, it was filthy.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's a lot.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Scooted off the vomitorium after and then just did it again.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, you know what, I think we should wrap there.
That's a lot of pain.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
That's a lot of Tucker Carls and everybody, thank you,
thank you. So that was me and Tucker backstage. Now,
Nicole Shanahan was there last night. You know, RFK Junior's
former running mate. Does she Counta's former running make anyway,
She's out there campaigning right now on behalf of Donald Trump.
She was there last night and before she got to
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the stage, had a few minutes with her backstage, And
we're gonna that interview in its entirety in a moment.
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Speaker 1 (22:18):
Unity about that. It was a cool moment. It was
great watching those two on stage. Before those two got
onto the stage, Nicole Shanahan joined me backstage in the
green room.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
We had a little.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Sit down speaking of making America healthy again.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
This is obviously.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
A crusade she's on in a good cruiside anyway, sat
down with Nicole for about ten minutes and here's that
interview and its entire Nicole, you AREFK junior at Bobby
you have chosen to endorse Donald Trump. Everyone's thrilled about that.
What thrills me most is speaking about health and speaking
(22:58):
about big pharma, because this is something that when I
look at the pilled out levels of America, it floors me.
And we don't talk enough about it about how would
you walk in the doctor's office.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
He's just waiting to write you a prescription for something?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Talk about Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:15):
I had an experience where I met with a former
AMT and he said what changed his life was going
into homes across the country and seeing kitchens full of
prescription pills. And nothing in the refrigerator, empty refrigerators. That's
the state of this country right now, empty refrigerators and
pill bottles. That's sad. Breaks my heart. We can't live
(23:40):
like this in this country anymore. We deserve better be cool.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Why is it this way here and not this way?
And everyone knows I'm the ultimate ugly American. I like
my country best.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But it's not every time you turn on the television.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
If you go overseas, every other commercial was not big
pharma commercial. We don't watch it's on of tea, but
if it's ever on in the background, it's every commercial.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It wasn't even like that when I was a kid.
I'm not ancient. I'm forty three. How and when did
this happen?
Speaker 11 (24:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (24:09):
And it's also being glorified as well, that the American
healthcare system has these shiny hospitals that a child is
exiting after their leukemia treatment and it's glorified. And you know,
it is great. Yes, if we can recover children, of
course we want that ability. But why do we have
(24:30):
so many sick people in this country. I just spoke
to the EPA this morning. There's a big group of people,
scientists out there for ten years now, they've been trying
to get them to stop glyphisate spraying in harvest. So
you know, farmers will use glyphasate throughout the crop cycle.
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But a practice that we do here in the United
States that's banned in Europe is pre harvest dessication desicated,
which is spraying the crops to kill the weeds, to
loosen the crops so that they're easier to harvest. But
the problem with that is the residues, the glycas eate
residues don't have time to dry out and dissipate, so
(25:12):
we're eating heavy loads of glyphysate and we're you know,
chatting with the EPA this morning. I zoomed in. I
was virtual, but the rest of the group was there
in person. And for ten years this group has been
telling the EPA about this, and for ten years the
EPA has failed to act. This is one of the
easiest things we could change, very easy, and they refuse
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to act.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Don't you hate zoom. I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I know we all zoom everything now, but it's so impersonal.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I'm talking over people the whole time. I despise it.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Well, you know, there's zoom etiquette. I could coach you
on that, okay, but you know it's I'm a mom
and Zoom's been great for being able to be at
home and also run a business, you know, an active
venture investor.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
And I think there's a lot of good to Zoom.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
But I think you're right.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
Getting out there and having that personal connection is so important,
which is why the lockdowns devastated the human experienced so much.
People got sick, not because of COVID but from the
spiritual dissecting that we've had. Humans need each other, they
also need nature. They need to walk barefoot outside, they
(26:35):
need to touch grass, and what they did to humans
during the pandemic. I mean no amount of Zoom could
make up for And you're right, it is there's you know,
zoom is serves a purpose. It's a tool, but to
be the exclusive way of communicating, which is how it
got so big it was during the pandemic. It's yeah,
(26:59):
not good.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
No, it didn't work out for Jeffrey Tuban. So speaking
of nature in sunshine and things like that, you mentioned
COVID and you keep coming back to this. I am
shocked at what happened to our medical institutions.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We actually have a wonderful doctor about ten.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Feet away from us who was scorned for treating patients
with things that worked for patients. If you were a
doctor who spoke out against things, against the insanity of it,
you were shown did they tried to ruin your career?
In many cases they did ruin your career. If you
were a doctor who towed the party line, get your
nineteenth booster shot, sorry about your stroke, then you were
(27:38):
still making money to this day. And we've never had
a reckoning. Are we ever going to get one?
Speaker 10 (27:45):
You know, I think that there is a lot going
on right now that is very optimistic in my opinion,
about being able to address these very egregious harms. The
censorship qualified experts, the deep platforming of qualified experts, some
of the top experts in the world. And this is
(28:06):
not like Andy Wakefield, who was, you know, twenty five
years ago canceled for publishing a paper on MMR and
autism and gut inflammation. You know, he was one of
like three doctors that were canceled. COVID nineteen was a
mass canceling of doctors, and there were tens of thousands
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of qualified voices that were silenced. Just the Great Barrington
Declaration by Jay Badicharia. I mean, he's had tens of
thousands of experts signed that document, and you know, Washington
Posts will say. I was interviewed by a journalist asking
why would you align yourself with that? And I was like,
(28:49):
what do you mean by that? You like, that is
a group of very important experts that are providing a
dissenting opinion. Dissenting opinions are part of American culture. Our
Supreme Court, we have dissenting opinions. This is very, very
important to hear those dissenting opinions in light of the
dominating opinion. Even if it is not the one that
the government chooses, we still have to hear them.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Nicole, it's a pleasure. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 12 (29:15):
Thank you such a pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That was me and Nicole, or Nicole and me, Nicole
and I. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I went to community college either way. Michael Berry my mentor.
People ask me how I got into this business. I've
only been doing media for six years. I had a
very normal life before this. Well, Michael Barry is really
the main reason I got into this business. He's my mentor.
He's been doing it a while. He's the one who
pushed me to try it. And he was at the
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event last night, and he was backstage and we did
a long sit down, he and I where I thought
I was going to interview him, but he ended up
interviewing me. Anyway, we'll play you that next, all right.
As I said going into the break, Michael Berry is
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my mentor. He's the one who pushed me to do this.
I got to know him back when I was selling RBS.
He's pushing me go for a media career. You could
do great at it. So I owe a lot to
Michael Berry.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I always have.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I always will bring him up as somebody who mentored
me and still does. When I have questions, concerns, when
I need advice, he's the one I call. He's also
a total jerk. I took a picture with Michael me,
Nicole Shanahan and Tucker last night. Michael very rudely cut
my head off and the picture it's not very nice.
(30:36):
But he's not very nice. I sat down to interview him.
He ended up deciding he wanted to run things, and
he interviewed me, and here we were.
Speaker 12 (30:46):
Do you own an ice maker?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I do I own an ice maker. I'm not sure
how you heard about it. I've been fairly tight lipped about.
Speaker 12 (30:54):
It, but no serious question. Do you own an ice maker?
I do. I don't think people know how much money
you make.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, look it was it was forty it was forty
five dollars. I don't believe you. No, it was Your.
Speaker 12 (31:05):
Wife is here, and I don't believe you.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well, she's the one who bought it. And she's actually
the one who bought it.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
She's been really upset about how much public credit I've
taken for the fact that it was her idea and
she purchased it. Okay, I did pay the extra four
ninety nine for expedited shipping, so I don't want to
rub that in anyone's face.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Yeah, I don't really like to be interviewed, so I
thought i'd interview you. Well, clearly so people want to
know what does Jesse Kelly do when he gets home
every night from the show and he's had a long day,
right sitting in an air conditioned office all day and
doing his show and having people tell him how Gradi is,
what is it? What's the Do you have a drink
when you go home?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Not as much anymore. Actually, I used to.
Speaker 12 (31:43):
I'm trying to be Tucker crossing, be honest.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
My My routine used to be, I'm being honest if
you would stop interrupting. My routine used to be, remember
I get home because my show is at night.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So by the time I get home, she's.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Getting ready to go to my wife's getting on a call,
the boys are getting ready to go to bed, like
the house is winding down because it's an evening show.
I don't get home and you know I have dinner.
It used to be more of go have a glass
su bourbon, or to I am worried about my blood
PRESSU because high blood pressure runs in my family and
it was starting to run a little high and not
(32:17):
like anything concerning high.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
So I had to basically cut a lot of that out.
Speaker 12 (32:22):
When you have that problem, like giraffes have, you have
to push that.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
But like giraffes, I'm six eight.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
Then why are you wearing high heel boots? If you're
six eight, you don't need to wear high heel boots.
You're already six eight. What are you six eleven?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Now? I don't need you, but I have one down.
Your problem is I have more ice than you have.
You you're my mentor your mikeel be all the success.
I have more ice than you do. When you want
to live with that?
Speaker 11 (32:49):
Did you ever think that you would be hanging out
backstage with Tucker Cross and him telling all your friends,
including your mom, how great you are.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I was figured. I was figured whenever I was selling
r VS.
Speaker 12 (33:01):
Yeah, I figured.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I figured.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You know, when I was in the Marines, I just
when I was in the sand, I would sit there
and say to myself, You're gonna be a huge star.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
One day, I was.
Speaker 11 (33:09):
Serious, like you're you're in the national conversation with five people. No,
it's serious, like I'm being dead serious.
Speaker 12 (33:16):
It's it's cool as hell. It's fun for me.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
To watch I in all serious. It's like I'm watching
it too. My wife and I IV and I were
talking about it on the way in. We're at this
big Tucker Callison event and we're all backstage and there's
a green room and there's event.
Speaker 12 (33:33):
But you are the super school.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
You pulled that in.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
When we pulled in, it was Tucker's face on there,
and then my face is on the billboard.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
And we pulled over and took a picture up. Yeah,
that's like, that's really weird. It's very weird. Great, this
is weird to me. I don't have green rooms and stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Come from a construction family, which I'm very proud of,
but we don't.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I don't have green rooms. You don't have events, you
don't have people wanting to take pictures with you. It's
like I'm watching it too. People don't believe me when
I say that, but it is. It's weird. Like I'll
come on well, IB and I will talk about it.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
I will tell you and if people have asked me,
you've had a meteoric rise, and I tell people that
the reason for that is authenticity.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
There are a lot of.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
People that were an FMDJ. They were a TV personality,
and nothing against them. They're very good at presenting on TV.
Although I think you're phenomena. But I think the thing
that makes you special is there's an authenticity.
Speaker 12 (34:26):
You're a real person. People can imagine you. You're one
of them.
Speaker 11 (34:30):
You know, in poor towns, the preacher would wear the
nicest suit and have the nicest car. You're a guy
who came from everyday people and launched and I think
that's really awesome for people, you know, you went in
the Marines.
Speaker 12 (34:43):
Who did that?
Speaker 11 (34:44):
Right, You've had this experience, you sold our VS and
you embraced that.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Right.
Speaker 12 (34:49):
You love long John Silvers. I love that. I mean
you love red lobster.
Speaker 11 (34:53):
I love that, and I think people I think that
resonates with people.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well about what we do.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You told me this when you were mentoring me and
teaching me how to do this. You about how intimate
radio is a radio or podcasting.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Whichever one you want to put.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Every radio show's podcast so now, but when you have
when it's the spoken word, when it's audio.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Again, this is what you taught me. You do it
with people, and people watch me do TV.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Because I have a TV show where everyone's watching this
right now on the first.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
It's a different way to consume media. You sit back
and you watch it.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
When it comes to radio, I am in your car
with you, I am making dinner with you, I am
working out with you, I am at your job, I'm
sitting at your desk and because you're doing your day
with me. Whereas when when people are watching this right
now on the amazing first TV, you were sitting in
front of your iPad or your television or wherever you're
watching and you're you're watching it. But you can't lie
(35:50):
if you're on the radio for three hours a day.
If you are fake, people are not stupid. They will
sniff it out in a heartbeat. They will, they will
smell it in a million miles. I can't pretend to
be educated.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I can't pretend to not like things like waffle House
and red Lobster. That's who I am, It's what I love,
it's what I enjoy.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yep, I can't. If I pretended, people would know, so
you might as well not.
Speaker 11 (36:13):
Bop our ceo who we both work at a company,
that he's the umbrella. Bob Pittman, who is the founder
of MTV, says that we are your companion at least
on your radio.
Speaker 12 (36:23):
Side, your TV side.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
And I love watching the show because I get to
see you in kind of a different way, because now
you get to use the visuals and all that. You
don't have to tell the story quite so much. Now
you can emote in a way you can't on the radio.
You can show your reaction to a video. And I
think I got to tell you and I'm not blowing
you up because I'll knock you around as well.
Speaker 12 (36:44):
And you know this, but I can't believe.
Speaker 11 (36:47):
And I'm not good at TV. I've never been good
at TV, So why I don't do it? You are
so good on TV, not having come up through the ranks,
not having been coached, not having been and that, to
me is one of them is about you. I've never
seen somebody that's so good on TV on day one.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Well.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I like talking with my hands when I talk to people,
and I like expressing things, and I appreciate the radio
aspect where you have to describe it, but I like
being able to make.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
A facial expression like right now.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I like being able to roll my eyes or laugh
or or grab my head or I enjoy I don't know,
does that sound lame? It almost sounds theatrical, But I
enjoy that part of it. I think it helps bring
everything alive.
Speaker 11 (37:32):
Well, that's the laugh track, right We're seeing how you're reacting,
and sometimes I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 12 (37:37):
I agree with that. I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 11 (37:40):
What worries you most about the future of this country
right now?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Things are so poisoned at the top, it's so corrupted,
it's so criminal. At the time, we already know that
we get that. You and I talk about this on
our shows every single day, all day long. How corrupt there,
how we've all poisonous city. It's okay, that's a given,
all right. That's the life we've been given. That's the
government we've been given. What concerns me is the number
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of people who will wake up in time to stop it,
because we completely have the power to stop this.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
We really do.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
People don't think so because you feel surrounded and you
watch the news and it's just problems here and problems
there and problems there.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
We really do. We have the power, We have the numbers.
People do not know this.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I'll probably end up saying this tonight, but they're afraid
of us. The government is deathly afraid of us. You
think you're afraid of them. They are afraid. The media
is afraid. They are afraid the people will wake up
and rise up and reject them. And we have the
power to do that if we will wake up in time.
And I'm also concerned, to be honest, I know this
(38:47):
is going to get a little dark. I'm concerned about
a terrible event gutting people and holding the movement back.
Now that terrible event, everyone knows what I'm talking about
right off the batt worry they're going to kill Donald Trump.
I believe they will because corrupt, evil systems kill people
who challenge them. That's just the history of the world.
But let's say it's not that. What if it's just
(39:08):
a loss in November. Everyone thinks Kamala Harris is gonna lose.
She's the moron they'll want to vote for that. Everyone's
done with it?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Everyone? What if she does with What if it's cheating?
What if it's not? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Are all the people who are energized and rising up
right now? Yeah, we're all going to be drowning our
sorrows that night. But are people just gonna say screw it.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
And walk away?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Because if that happens, we're done. If that happens, we
have a dark, ugly, evil future ahead of us if
people stay involved.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
If people get involved, we do not. It's just that simple.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
We will not be determined by Trump or one race
or the House or the Senate. Do the people continue
to rise up and get involved. If they do, we're fine.
If not, we're screwed. That's what worries me because I
don't know. I don't know which way that's going to go.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Historically, sometimes they do rise up and sometimes they just
go meekly into the goolegs.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
You and I talk off air often about things, and
it's almost never politics. It's interesting for me because I
follow you on Twitter. You write things and I think
that's exactly how I feel, and we haven't talked about that.
He just put it better than I would, and it's
shocking to me. I've literally never seen an opinion of
yours that you posted, and your opinions are out there
(40:21):
and I go, gosh, I agree with him one hundred
percent of the time. But people will say, what do
you and Jesse talk about? And I'll say, we talk
about our families. We talk about what's going on our
personal lives. We talk about which part of our body's
fallen apart because we're not as young as we used
to be. When you talk about being a father, which
you don't talk as much about that on the air
(40:42):
as I think you should, how are you different as
a father talking to the nation every night about and
every day about what's going on in this country? Because
I'm different, I know, how.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Are you different?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I don't think I am and if anything, it can
come off I know it can. She'll, she'll, She'll say
to me, it can come off as very direct and harsh.
But my boys are at the age where, well even
when they were younger, I.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Just don't sugarcoat things for them. If they came home
one day in class.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Or from school and their teacher told them that FDR
was the greatest president ever, I will not dance around it.
Your teacher is an idiot, and FDR was a scumbag
communist and I can't stand him. So it doesn't mean
you get in trouble in class. You keep your mouth shut,
but your teacher doesn't know what the hecker they're talking about.
And I don't know that that's the right way. I
certainly don't think I'm Father of the Year, but I
(41:39):
will tell you my sons I've met your sons in
the same way. But my sons are very much prepared
for when they hear crap.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
They can sniff it a mile away now.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Because of how we've raised them, how we've bet there
was a there's a new there's a Disney movie coming out.
I don't know what the stupid thing is. Some robots
running through the forest, with animals and crap. Everyone's probably
seen the advertisers anywhere, And immediately we were at the movies,
I forget what we were going to see. My youngest,
he's not even the political one.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
My oldest is.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
He looks at me and he says, you know, that's
just gonna be a bunch of climate change propaganda.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's my boy, right.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
They and if you teach them how to sniff out
all the garbage when you're in a system of lies,
when everything on the TV is a lie, and every
movie's a propaganda piece, and everything's a lie, if you
teach them how to see that instead of what every
individual story is, then they pick up on it so fast.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
It makes me so proud. When they pick up on it.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Before, I don't have to say anything because I know
I'm prepping them to enter a world of lies.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
That's the world we live in now.
Speaker 11 (42:42):
And if parents had been parents, then the young voters,
especially today, wouldn't be making the mistakes they were.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Well, we were. There was this law that is a
very understandable law.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
With the previous generation's previous generation or two, they had
been raised in a normal country, and they'd been raised
by normal parents, and the rot and corruption and evil
at the top was not broadcast every day on the news.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
It wasn't nearly as evident.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You had little glimpses of this, and that it wasn't
breaking news that LBJ was a corrupt piece of trash.
You started an entire war over These things are known.
It's not like they were completely like lost. But you
didn't know that you had to teach your kids to
wake up and be be activists.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
You didn't know that you can't raise your kids. Why
we don't talk politics, You can't do. It's not an
option anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
If you send your kids out there, they're gonna get
eaten alive.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
By the wolves in the society like that. You better
prep them now.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
But that generation didn't know because they weren't trying to
blow the Republican nominees head off and chop kids' penises off.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
When my parents were raising it just didn't work out
that much.
Speaker 11 (43:52):
So Saturday, we're chatting and I said, come over, I
smoke cigars. You don't, but let's have some urbans and
catch up on things and celebrate and enjoy some good fellowship.
And you said, I'm at a cross country track meet
out in the sun while everybody else in America's watching
college football and enjoying themselves. But I got to tell you,
(44:15):
I think those experiences connect us to real Americans because
you and I both know that Kamala Harris is not
a real American. Her husband is not a real American.
Joe Biden's this is not They do not live the
lives that real Americans live. You need to be at
that cross country meet, which is why you're there. You
need to be out there in the sun. You need
to be spending four hours to watch your kid run
(44:36):
for ten minutes. And I think that helps us understand
what people are going through. Because you've been hanging out
with Tucker crosson tonight, it's very easy to get alienated
from the people sitting in those seats and the lives
they're leading, and to communicate with those people.
Speaker 12 (44:52):
And I think that's an important part of what we
do that we tend to take for granted.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
We do take it for granted.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
And as soon as you start, as soon as you
st start making some money, right you get you get
the successful enough of media, you're gonna start making good money.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
People aren't naive. They know you're making good money, you can.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Quickly price yourself out of experiencing with other people, experience
at all. No, no, I'm not going to I'm not
going to cross a cross countries an hour and a
half away. I want to sleep in. You know what,
send that said that we don't have a nanny, But
send the nanny with the kids, and you can.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
You can. You can use your money to price yourself
out of the way.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Everyday people live. So you're never in the grocery store
sticker shocked at the.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Price of beef.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
You're never at a cross country tournament rotting in miserable
heat with all the other parents because your kid doesn't
race again for another two hours.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
It's just you never. You don't if you didn't, and
if you do that, you're done. If you lose connection
to people, you're done. That was me, That was Michael.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
It was a good time. Now, lighting the mood is
always a good time, isn't it. We have a great
one for you next. All right, it is time to
lighten the mood. And we all know Dome likes to
change accents depending on which crowd she's in. I really
(46:12):
really enjoyed the new Latina Dome.
Speaker 8 (46:19):
I love you Bag, I love you, Bag, I love
you Bag.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I love you Mommy.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Anyway, Sable
We have a show full of interviews for you. Tucker
Carlson Live happened last night. We have a backstage interview
with Tucker, a backstage interview with Nicole Shanahan, Michael Barry,
Carol Roth joins us to talk talk about the interest
rate stuff, all that and more coming up on them right.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And that is Jesse's.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Kenny, my friend Joseph.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That was the intro last night, Tucker Carls and Live
happened in Rosenberg, Texas. I was the guest of honor,
the headliner. I guess Tucker was probably the headliner. But
it was an amazing time. It was so great being
with just the people just hanging out talking politics, and
(01:17):
sure seemed like they enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's because the dirty demons who want to hurt you
lay awake at night dreaming about it, and they are
so mad that they can't because we.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Are the most armed freaking people on the planet. We
had the guns, we have the AMMO, and that's why
the matter.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
These commies are always trying you see it with every
Democrat who talks today, they're always trying to straddle this line,
which is really Kamala. Here's a specialty given her beginning,
but you do, She's always what what what? This state
should already ready right now, they should already be re
(02:02):
oienting the state police Texas Rangers to stand as a
bulwark between Texans and the federal government that is evil.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They alreadys should be doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
But instead we have John freaking Cornyan as a Senate.
We have a primary voter problem because the reddest states
they are sending the most putrid losers to Washington, d C.
John Thune, John Cornyan, Mitch McConnell. What is that James
(02:39):
Langford naked Kendall Langford out of Oklahoma? These people are
from our reddest state. Naked Ken Doll? Have you ever
seen a naked Ken Doll? No, there's no nothing there.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So now I'm not bragging. I've never taken off Ken's pants,
but it's.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Just well, believe me, that's what you're gonna find if
you ever did o James like.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
But the point is feeling that.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It was a good time and look, obviously there were
laughs to be had, as you can see, there was
plenty of serious talk as well.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Do you feel any hope and if so, why, Oh,
we're gonna win we're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I know that you're afraid. I get afraid. I know
you're sad.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm sad.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I love this place right I would die for it.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It hurts watching these people tear it up. I know
it hurts.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
But I'm here to tell you something. They're more afraid
than you are. They're afraid we're going to wake up.
They're afraid we're going to get involved. They're afraid we're
gonna go to their little fiefdoms of power at the
little library or congress or school board wherever it is,
and take their power away from them.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
They're afraid of you.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Speaking the way you want to speak on social media.
They're afraid of the fact that your guns. The demons
are more afraid of you than you are of them.
The darkness is afraid of the light. The light does
not fear the darkness, and they should be afraid. I
(04:27):
want to make sure I'm very crystal clear about that,
and you can clip it all day long, Yukami scumbags
come knock on my freaking door. They should be afraid because,
as I mentioned in the beginning, they are wrong. They
are evil. What they want is awful for this country.
(04:48):
What you want is wonderful and good. We want a
country surrounded by family and community, a country led by
God and decent people. We want to be led by
people who are better than what we have now. And
if we stand up and I see it happening everywhere,
we can have that. It is time to stop being
(05:09):
afraid like you are and like I am, and it
is time to start making them afraid. Good guys don't
get afraid. They need to be ones that were afraid
of us.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And we can do that. There's a new sheriff in town.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jesse Kelly, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Pretty fun?
Speaker 6 (05:29):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You know what else is fun? Interest rate cuts. We
got to cut in the interest rates. That's a good thing,
right right?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Let's ask Carol joining me now, Carol Roth. I just
mentioned her because I need to know what I'm supposed
to make of an interest rate cut. Carol, that you
have educated us so many times, by the way, everyone Carol,
author of so many books, her book You Will Own
Nothing is when you really should be picking up right now.
But Carol, you've educated us on finances, on interest rates,
(06:01):
on inflation.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So many times.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So I was confused inflation is still bad. Why are
they cutting interest rates? Because it was always my understanding
that interest rates have to go up or stay up
to try to keep inflation down.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
What am I missing, Carol?
Speaker 7 (06:18):
What you're missing, Jesse, is that Jerom Powell is unburdened
by what has been and now we are in a
rate cutting environment.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Listen, he has a quote unquote dual mandate.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
One side he's trying to keep inflation from getting too high.
Obviously has done a pi poor job with that. The
other side trying to keep the labor market steady and
the economy from cracking. So theoretically has kind of done
an okay job with that, except for the fact that
we know all of the job's numbers are made up
out of thin air. So I have thought all along
(06:55):
that we have had interest rates that are too high
and that he has has been behind the curve in
terms of bringing them down. That being said, when you
have out of the blue a fifty bases point cut,
it does create a signal, and the signal could be interpreted,
particularly given this dual mandate, that he is now less
(07:17):
concerned about the growth of inflation, not inflation, because we
know cumulatively that's been terrible. But he is less concerned
about that, or at least being able to impact that,
because as I said, I don't think his policies really
impacted that has come from other factors. But he is
very concerned potentially, even though he told us the economy
is great, but the telegraphing is that he is concerned
(07:41):
about what could be happening in the jobs market and
what that means for the economy. And if you think
about what's been happening with some of the white collar
jobs in particular, we have seen more layoffs coming from
the tech industry. We've seen Amazon saying everybody has to
come back to the office five days a week.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
That's a big leverage shift.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
It used to be that the labor markets at the jobs,
the workers they could dictate. Now, you know, we just
feel like coming in, you know, one day a week
or not at all. Now that leverage has turned. And
if you read that press release from Amazon, they also
said they're looking to get rid of some managers. So
the people who have been propping up the economy while
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the middle class has been struggling to pay for their
food and pay for their rents, Now we're seeing more layoffs.
We're seeing some potential weakness there, and so I do
think that is what is being telegraphed here, even though
he told us that he feels like the economy is strong.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, so are we going to see inflation or do
you think I guess I should ask, do you think
we're going to see inflation skyrocket now that they're cutting
these rates? If they're cutting them to benefit Amazon or
whoever they're cutting them for whatever reason, isn't that going
to make inflation worse?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
So there are two parts of this question. One is
what's going to happen to inflation? And is it related
to what the FED has done? Will we likely see
inflation tick up again? Absolutely, and that's because of the
government deads and deficits and the fact that we will
probably down the lot and have to monetize. Though, so
do I expect we will see an uptick inflation at
some point?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Do I think that cutting fifty basis points, going from
above five percent to four three quarters to five percent
is going to unleash inflation? Not in this context. And
the context that we have is we have very high
interest rates. We had fifteen years where people had basically
zero or near zero interest rates where they could take
(09:42):
on a lot of debt individually or for their companies.
So is there going to be massive demand that is
unleashed now that the FED funds rate is at four
seven five to five.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
It is above something that we call the neutral rate,
the neutral rate, which is radical. We don't know exactly
what it is, but the neutral rate is that dividing
line between type policy and accommodative policy, and it basically
signifies that the Fed's policy does neither.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
It's neutral, so to speak.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
So I think we are far enough above that neutral
rate to not have that create an impact on inflation.
That being set, this is kicking off a cycle.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
This is not a one and done.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
As far as they're projecting, we're seeing potentially another half
a percent coming in the next two meetings, maybe another
one percent next year. So to the extent that they
do keep lowering the rates and they go past that
neutral rate into a commodate of territory, and again nobody
knows what it is.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
They're just guessing.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Like with everything else, that's when you can see the
inflation recognized. So we're probably not seeing it based on
these actions, but it kicks off that chain of future
actions that we have to keep our eye on.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Carol, we got about a minute left and I had
to ask, do you think this is a political decision?
As soon as I saw it, that was my first suspicion, right,
But I don't want to I don't want to make
that accusation without hearing from Carol Roth.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Was this about the election?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
So it's certainly the optics of it are not great
to have, you know, right before the election. The last
FED meeting a fifty basis point cut. That being said,
it depends on how you read the signal, and I
guarantee what team you're on is going to be depending
on how you read the signal. If you're in Kamala
Harris's camp, you're going to say, see, inflation is under control.
(11:34):
The FED feels confident about it, Otherwise they wouldn't have
given us as cut.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
However, if you are in Trump's camp, you're going to.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Say, well, the only thing that Biden administration has said,
the Biden Harris administration has touted is that they've done
so great with jobs, and oh no, now the FED
is concerned about jobs and they have to start lowering
rates in order to preempt the economy if we completely
churning over so politically, you could interpret it that either way,
(12:01):
and I'm certain that you will see it interpreted both ways.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, I'm certain you're right, Carol. Thank you, ma'am. As always,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Good pleasure.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Last night, Tucker Carlson's doing this massive tour Tucker Carlson
Live with a special guest in every city. Well, last
night he came to my area. That in the Houston area.
He did one in Rosenberg, Texas, very close to Houston,
and I was his guest last night. So we chatted.
We chatted a lot. It's really gonna be a good
(12:35):
show for you tonight. And I'm right before we get
to any of that, I'm going to get to this.
I want to talk about your sleep. You see, I
slept like a little baby last night. How could I
sleep like a little baby when I got home from
that big event and I was all jazzed up. I
got home and I made myself a little cup of
hot chocolate, cinnamon hot chocolate, actually only it was dream
(13:00):
powder from Beam.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's delicious. If I didn't tell you that's what it was.
You'd never know.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's one of the best cups hot chocolate I've ever had.
But it's all natural stuff, melatonin and things. And as
jazzed up as I was, sat there, talked with the wife,
a little cup of hot chocolate, just went to bed
and went to sleep, and then when I woke up
this morning, came rocketing out of bed, worked out this morning.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Ready to go.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
We're go asleep like that every night and wake up
feeling like that every morning. Go up to forty percent
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You'll always have one. We'll be back, Welcome back to
(13:43):
I'm right. And you know, we had the big Tucker
Carlson Live event last night. Well before we were all
out on stage together under the lights, we had some
time back in the green room.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
How crazy he's had us back in a green room.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Anyway, we were sitting back there in the green room
and was I eating chips? Yes, I was, But Tucker
decided to come back and join me, and we just
sat down five six minutes and just kind of shot
the breeze about stuff, not political stuff, lots of it
was stupid stuff, but I think you enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Here it is, Tucker. Do you own an ice maker?
Portable ice maker? Are you making fun of me? No?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
I wanted an ice maker last night at Amazon in
my hotel room.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Really, actually, yes, because you're gonna give me any credit
for that?
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Or how did you know that?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
You're freaking me out? You're the only honestly, how did
you know that? I did it for an ice bath
because my ice maker is inadequate, so I just ordered
a three hundred pound ice maker.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
But I don't know unless you have my password, how
would you know that?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No, that's mine's a little it's a little different. Mine's
mine's more about the size of a shoe box.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It's not wired into anything at the house. But it's
a portable ice maker, you see. And we have unlimited
ice now in our house and we've had it for
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm pretty proud of it.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I don't know how you knew that I haven't had
an ice maker in twenty two years. Last time an
ice maker, I lost control with the Scotch and.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I had to quit drinking.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You got one of those ones where you like plug
your glass into the refrigerator and it fills it.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Up with ice, and I was like, oh wow, I
can just like pour Scotch in there, and and then
you know, that was it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The quitting drinking.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, I get emails all the time from guys who
are struggling to quit drinking. I can't how do I
quit drink? And how do I quit drink? And I'm
in sales, how do I quit drinking? A lot of
their concerns seems to be my life's going to be over,
my friends are going to leave me, I can't do
my job correctly.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
How's it been quitting drinking? What's the beginning of life
for me?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I mean, for most people who drink in a happy way, it's,
you know, it's it's it's an addition to their lives.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
But for people who are harmed by it.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
It's, you know, it's a nightmare. You'd rather have cancer
than alcoholism. And so getting out of it is difficult
at first because you have withdrawals that are real. They're
more real than you ever imagine or that anyone ever
tells you. Once you get past that, you know, your
personality fills in the space where the news was like,
you find your personality getting bigger. Actually, alcohol when you
(16:04):
drink too much, not like a normal person like you,
but it stunts you, It makes you afraid, It kind
of holds you in childhood. You can't become full of
yourself when you're drunk all the time. So no, I mean,
it's the greatest thing I've ever done.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I would imagine. I would imagine your mind works
better now than ever before.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Well, I'm fifty five, so my mind is declining in
its acuity, and I'm just getting muddier and grumpier. And
I can't really articulate why I hate everything about modernity.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I just do.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
It's what.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I don't have a TV because I want to see it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
But I can tell you that your emotions become really
clear and you can connect with people. I mean, again,
it's very hard to quit drinking. If you keep drinking
long enough, you just you can't quit. But there is
a window in my just observation where you start to
realize this is a problem.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Then is the time to quit.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
And basically once you quit, your realize everybody had a
drug or alcohol problem. There's not a single family where
there's not some snarfing addict.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
You know, maybe to be embarrassed about it at all?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Do you think it's annoying sometimes to be famous and
you can't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You can't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You can't go into Red Lobster, you can't you can't
go to Paris, you can't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Is it annoying? You know?
Speaker 6 (17:17):
I kind of resolve not to whine about it. I could,
I could write a book about it.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Actually, yeah, it's the only thing I would say without whining,
which is whenever you know, I hear people say I
want to be famous, or people want to be famous,
it's like they you know, it really is like asking
for shingles or something.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Like under stand way anyone would want that.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I've lived there for all, you know, many years, so
I'm used to it. But it's not a life and
ancer at all. Anonymity is a life and ancer. Well,
unlimited Red Lobster doesn't hurt. They're coming out of bankruptcy,
is that true? They're coming out of bankruptcy like a
phoenix rising from the ashes.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
There's some new hot CEO. He said, he's got them
all squared away.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I'm pretty and it gave my first speech in nineteen
ninety three, at the Red Lobster in Nord Little Rock, Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Do you give a speech at red Locks? I did.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I gave it to Red Lobster, to the Kowanas Club.
Someone in the newsroom in the newspaper where I worked
asked if I would give a speech a lunch He
called it a lunch speech. So was it the Red
Lobster in North Little Rock? And I had some Alaskan
snow crab and just killed it.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, well, I'm it's Red Lobster. It's the best. There
is really the best. There is a tour.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I will tell you I did a very very mini tour,
much smaller than this kind of a thing you were doing.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But for the book I wrote huge best selling book.
It was amazing. I don't want to brag about.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It, but in that but but I wrote this book.
We did a mini tours only like five six stops.
It was actually more exhausting than you think it is
because you never stop. You get off a plane, you
get right on this, you go to this, you go
to that.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It it's tiring.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean the problem for me really is just eating,
you know what I mean, which you have to do.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
And I've quit a lot of poisonous things that I want,
you know, cigarettes, alcohol, drug you know, all that tuff,
all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Sorry, but I was having dinner with my cousins last
night in Houston, and it's like, let's get dessert, and
then I just become disgusting, disgusting, and so keep you know,
I'm not a womanizer, I'm not. I really kind of
have a chief self control in a lot of important areas.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
But dessert, I just can't. I just can't deal with it.
I'm just like a dog. I mean, I had a
chocolate moose cake.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Of some kind with raspberry sauce, and I looked up
from its crumbs and felt embarrassment because I realized I
blacked out while eating. It's like, so you just you
channel all that celibacy and sadness into dessert.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
You eat your feelings, and it's that is hard for me.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, I'm I'm the worst at that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
My lovely wife over there will tell you it's really no,
it's extremely with you.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
You don't need to dessert, my wife left.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
No, No, it's extremely unhealthy. Food will actually govern my meal.
If I have had a good meal, I am so
much more pleasant to be around. If I've had, if
I've had, if I've strung two together, bad breakfast, bad lunch.
Just give me a wide berth. I'm not gonna be
nice for a while. I find just the opposite.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I fast, you know, after breakfast on the day that
I you know, if we got a show or whatever,
I can't eat. And the longer I go with that eating,
the happier I am. I feel so oppressed by the
chocolate moose cake and the raspberry sauce and the fries
that preceded it, and the mushroom ravioli that came before that,
and the mushroom stop.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
The toast, I know it was, it was. It was
a large, it was filthy.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's a lot.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Scooted off the vomitorium after and then just did it again.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, you know what, I think we should wrap there.
That's a lot of pain.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
That's a lot of Tucker Carls and everybody, thank you,
thank you. So that was me and Tucker backstage. Now,
Nicole Shanahan was there last night. You know, RFK Junior's
former running mate. Does she Counta's former running make anyway,
She's out there campaigning right now on behalf of Donald Trump.
She was there last night and before she got to
(20:56):
the stage, had a few minutes with her backstage, And
we're gonna that interview in its entirety in a moment.
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Speaker 1 (22:18):
Unity about that. It was a cool moment. It was
great watching those two on stage. Before those two got
onto the stage, Nicole Shanahan joined me backstage in the
green room.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
We had a little.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Sit down speaking of making America healthy again.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
This is obviously.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
A crusade she's on in a good cruiside anyway, sat
down with Nicole for about ten minutes and here's that
interview and its entire Nicole, you AREFK junior at Bobby
you have chosen to endorse Donald Trump. Everyone's thrilled about that.
What thrills me most is speaking about health and speaking
(22:58):
about big pharma, because this is something that when I
look at the pilled out levels of America, it floors me.
And we don't talk enough about it about how would
you walk in the doctor's office.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
He's just waiting to write you a prescription for something?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Talk about Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:15):
I had an experience where I met with a former
AMT and he said what changed his life was going
into homes across the country and seeing kitchens full of
prescription pills. And nothing in the refrigerator, empty refrigerators. That's
the state of this country right now, empty refrigerators and
pill bottles. That's sad. Breaks my heart. We can't live
(23:40):
like this in this country anymore. We deserve better be cool.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Why is it this way here and not this way?
And everyone knows I'm the ultimate ugly American. I like
my country best.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But it's not every time you turn on the television.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
If you go overseas, every other commercial was not big
pharma commercial. We don't watch it's on of tea, but
if it's ever on in the background, it's every commercial.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It wasn't even like that when I was a kid.
I'm not ancient. I'm forty three. How and when did
this happen?
Speaker 11 (24:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (24:09):
And it's also being glorified as well, that the American
healthcare system has these shiny hospitals that a child is
exiting after their leukemia treatment and it's glorified. And you know,
it is great. Yes, if we can recover children, of
course we want that ability. But why do we have
(24:30):
so many sick people in this country. I just spoke
to the EPA this morning. There's a big group of people,
scientists out there for ten years now, they've been trying
to get them to stop glyphisate spraying in harvest. So
you know, farmers will use glyphasate throughout the crop cycle.
(24:51):
But a practice that we do here in the United
States that's banned in Europe is pre harvest dessication desicated,
which is spraying the crops to kill the weeds, to
loosen the crops so that they're easier to harvest. But
the problem with that is the residues, the glycas eate
residues don't have time to dry out and dissipate, so
(25:12):
we're eating heavy loads of glyphysate and we're you know,
chatting with the EPA this morning. I zoomed in. I
was virtual, but the rest of the group was there
in person. And for ten years this group has been
telling the EPA about this, and for ten years the
EPA has failed to act. This is one of the
easiest things we could change, very easy, and they refuse
(25:35):
to act.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Don't you hate zoom. I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I know we all zoom everything now, but it's so impersonal.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I'm talking over people the whole time. I despise it.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Well, you know, there's zoom etiquette. I could coach you
on that, okay, but you know it's I'm a mom
and Zoom's been great for being able to be at
home and also run a business, you know, an active
venture investor.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
And I think there's a lot of good to Zoom.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
But I think you're right.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
Getting out there and having that personal connection is so important,
which is why the lockdowns devastated the human experienced so much.
People got sick, not because of COVID but from the
spiritual dissecting that we've had. Humans need each other, they
also need nature. They need to walk barefoot outside, they
(26:35):
need to touch grass, and what they did to humans
during the pandemic. I mean no amount of Zoom could
make up for And you're right, it is there's you know,
zoom is serves a purpose. It's a tool, but to
be the exclusive way of communicating, which is how it
got so big it was during the pandemic. It's yeah,
(26:59):
not good.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
No, it didn't work out for Jeffrey Tuban. So speaking
of nature in sunshine and things like that, you mentioned
COVID and you keep coming back to this. I am
shocked at what happened to our medical institutions.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We actually have a wonderful doctor about ten.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Feet away from us who was scorned for treating patients
with things that worked for patients. If you were a
doctor who spoke out against things, against the insanity of it,
you were shown did they tried to ruin your career?
In many cases they did ruin your career. If you
were a doctor who towed the party line, get your
nineteenth booster shot, sorry about your stroke, then you were
(27:38):
still making money to this day. And we've never had
a reckoning. Are we ever going to get one?
Speaker 10 (27:45):
You know, I think that there is a lot going
on right now that is very optimistic in my opinion,
about being able to address these very egregious harms. The
censorship qualified experts, the deep platforming of qualified experts, some
of the top experts in the world. And this is
(28:06):
not like Andy Wakefield, who was, you know, twenty five
years ago canceled for publishing a paper on MMR and
autism and gut inflammation. You know, he was one of
like three doctors that were canceled. COVID nineteen was a
mass canceling of doctors, and there were tens of thousands
(28:26):
of qualified voices that were silenced. Just the Great Barrington
Declaration by Jay Badicharia. I mean, he's had tens of
thousands of experts signed that document, and you know, Washington
Posts will say. I was interviewed by a journalist asking
why would you align yourself with that? And I was like,
(28:49):
what do you mean by that? You like, that is
a group of very important experts that are providing a
dissenting opinion. Dissenting opinions are part of American culture. Our
Supreme Court, we have dissenting opinions. This is very, very
important to hear those dissenting opinions in light of the
dominating opinion. Even if it is not the one that
the government chooses, we still have to hear them.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Nicole, it's a pleasure. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 12 (29:15):
Thank you such a pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That was me and Nicole, or Nicole and me, Nicole
and I. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I went to community college either way. Michael Berry my mentor.
People ask me how I got into this business. I've
only been doing media for six years. I had a
very normal life before this. Well, Michael Barry is really
the main reason I got into this business. He's my mentor.
He's been doing it a while. He's the one who
pushed me to try it. And he was at the
(29:42):
event last night, and he was backstage and we did
a long sit down, he and I where I thought
I was going to interview him, but he ended up
interviewing me. Anyway, we'll play you that next, all right.
As I said going into the break, Michael Berry is
(30:03):
my mentor. He's the one who pushed me to do this.
I got to know him back when I was selling RBS.
He's pushing me go for a media career. You could
do great at it. So I owe a lot to
Michael Berry.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I always have.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I always will bring him up as somebody who mentored
me and still does. When I have questions, concerns, when
I need advice, he's the one I call. He's also
a total jerk. I took a picture with Michael me,
Nicole Shanahan and Tucker last night. Michael very rudely cut
my head off and the picture it's not very nice.
(30:36):
But he's not very nice. I sat down to interview him.
He ended up deciding he wanted to run things, and
he interviewed me, and here we were.
Speaker 12 (30:46):
Do you own an ice maker?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I do I own an ice maker. I'm not sure
how you heard about it. I've been fairly tight lipped about.
Speaker 12 (30:54):
It, but no serious question. Do you own an ice maker?
I do. I don't think people know how much money
you make.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, look it was it was forty it was forty
five dollars. I don't believe you. No, it was Your.
Speaker 12 (31:05):
Wife is here, and I don't believe you.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well, she's the one who bought it. And she's actually
the one who bought it.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
She's been really upset about how much public credit I've
taken for the fact that it was her idea and
she purchased it. Okay, I did pay the extra four
ninety nine for expedited shipping, so I don't want to
rub that in anyone's face.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Yeah, I don't really like to be interviewed, so I
thought i'd interview you. Well, clearly so people want to
know what does Jesse Kelly do when he gets home
every night from the show and he's had a long day,
right sitting in an air conditioned office all day and
doing his show and having people tell him how Gradi is,
what is it? What's the Do you have a drink
when you go home?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Not as much anymore. Actually, I used to.
Speaker 12 (31:43):
I'm trying to be Tucker crossing, be honest.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
My My routine used to be, I'm being honest if
you would stop interrupting. My routine used to be, remember
I get home because my show is at night.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So by the time I get home, she's.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Getting ready to go to my wife's getting on a call,
the boys are getting ready to go to bed, like
the house is winding down because it's an evening show.
I don't get home and you know I have dinner.
It used to be more of go have a glass
su bourbon, or to I am worried about my blood
PRESSU because high blood pressure runs in my family and
it was starting to run a little high and not
(32:17):
like anything concerning high.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
So I had to basically cut a lot of that out.
Speaker 12 (32:22):
When you have that problem, like giraffes have, you have
to push that.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
But like giraffes, I'm six eight.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
Then why are you wearing high heel boots? If you're
six eight, you don't need to wear high heel boots.
You're already six eight. What are you six eleven?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Now? I don't need you, but I have one down.
Your problem is I have more ice than you have.
You you're my mentor your mikeel be all the success.
I have more ice than you do. When you want
to live with that?
Speaker 11 (32:49):
Did you ever think that you would be hanging out
backstage with Tucker Cross and him telling all your friends,
including your mom, how great you are.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I was figured. I was figured whenever I was selling
r VS.
Speaker 12 (33:01):
Yeah, I figured.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I figured.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You know, when I was in the Marines, I just
when I was in the sand, I would sit there
and say to myself, You're gonna be a huge star.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
One day, I was.
Speaker 11 (33:09):
Serious, like you're you're in the national conversation with five people. No,
it's serious, like I'm being dead serious.
Speaker 12 (33:16):
It's it's cool as hell. It's fun for me.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
To watch I in all serious. It's like I'm watching
it too. My wife and I IV and I were
talking about it on the way in. We're at this
big Tucker Callison event and we're all backstage and there's
a green room and there's event.
Speaker 12 (33:33):
But you are the super school.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
You pulled that in.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
When we pulled in, it was Tucker's face on there,
and then my face is on the billboard.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
And we pulled over and took a picture up. Yeah,
that's like, that's really weird. It's very weird. Great, this
is weird to me. I don't have green rooms and stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Come from a construction family, which I'm very proud of,
but we don't.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I don't have green rooms. You don't have events, you
don't have people wanting to take pictures with you. It's
like I'm watching it too. People don't believe me when
I say that, but it is. It's weird. Like I'll
come on well, IB and I will talk about it.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
I will tell you and if people have asked me,
you've had a meteoric rise, and I tell people that
the reason for that is authenticity.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
There are a lot of.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
People that were an FMDJ. They were a TV personality,
and nothing against them. They're very good at presenting on TV.
Although I think you're phenomena. But I think the thing
that makes you special is there's an authenticity.
Speaker 12 (34:26):
You're a real person. People can imagine you. You're one
of them.
Speaker 11 (34:30):
You know, in poor towns, the preacher would wear the
nicest suit and have the nicest car. You're a guy
who came from everyday people and launched and I think
that's really awesome for people, you know, you went in
the Marines.
Speaker 12 (34:43):
Who did that?
Speaker 11 (34:44):
Right, You've had this experience, you sold our VS and
you embraced that.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Right.
Speaker 12 (34:49):
You love long John Silvers. I love that. I mean
you love red lobster.
Speaker 11 (34:53):
I love that, and I think people I think that
resonates with people.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well about what we do.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You told me this when you were mentoring me and
teaching me how to do this. You about how intimate
radio is a radio or podcasting.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Whichever one you want to put.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Every radio show's podcast so now, but when you have
when it's the spoken word, when it's audio.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Again, this is what you taught me. You do it
with people, and people watch me do TV.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Because I have a TV show where everyone's watching this
right now on the first.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
It's a different way to consume media. You sit back
and you watch it.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
When it comes to radio, I am in your car
with you, I am making dinner with you, I am
working out with you, I am at your job, I'm
sitting at your desk and because you're doing your day
with me. Whereas when when people are watching this right
now on the amazing first TV, you were sitting in
front of your iPad or your television or wherever you're
watching and you're you're watching it. But you can't lie
(35:50):
if you're on the radio for three hours a day.
If you are fake, people are not stupid. They will
sniff it out in a heartbeat. They will, they will
smell it in a million miles. I can't pretend to
be educated.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I can't pretend to not like things like waffle House
and red Lobster. That's who I am, It's what I love,
it's what I enjoy.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yep, I can't. If I pretended, people would know, so
you might as well not.
Speaker 11 (36:13):
Bop our ceo who we both work at a company,
that he's the umbrella. Bob Pittman, who is the founder
of MTV, says that we are your companion at least
on your radio.
Speaker 12 (36:23):
Side, your TV side.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
And I love watching the show because I get to
see you in kind of a different way, because now
you get to use the visuals and all that. You
don't have to tell the story quite so much. Now
you can emote in a way you can't on the radio.
You can show your reaction to a video. And I
think I got to tell you and I'm not blowing
you up because I'll knock you around as well.
Speaker 12 (36:44):
And you know this, but I can't believe.
Speaker 11 (36:47):
And I'm not good at TV. I've never been good
at TV, So why I don't do it? You are
so good on TV, not having come up through the ranks,
not having been coached, not having been and that, to
me is one of them is about you. I've never
seen somebody that's so good on TV on day one.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Well.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I like talking with my hands when I talk to people,
and I like expressing things, and I appreciate the radio
aspect where you have to describe it, but I like
being able to make.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
A facial expression like right now.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I like being able to roll my eyes or laugh
or or grab my head or I enjoy I don't know,
does that sound lame? It almost sounds theatrical, But I
enjoy that part of it. I think it helps bring
everything alive.
Speaker 11 (37:32):
Well, that's the laugh track, right We're seeing how you're reacting,
and sometimes I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 12 (37:37):
I agree with that. I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 11 (37:40):
What worries you most about the future of this country
right now?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Things are so poisoned at the top, it's so corrupted,
it's so criminal. At the time, we already know that
we get that. You and I talk about this on
our shows every single day, all day long. How corrupt there,
how we've all poisonous city. It's okay, that's a given,
all right. That's the life we've been given. That's the
government we've been given. What concerns me is the number
(38:09):
of people who will wake up in time to stop it,
because we completely have the power to stop this.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
We really do.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
People don't think so because you feel surrounded and you
watch the news and it's just problems here and problems
there and problems there.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
We really do. We have the power, We have the numbers.
People do not know this.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I'll probably end up saying this tonight, but they're afraid
of us. The government is deathly afraid of us. You
think you're afraid of them. They are afraid. The media
is afraid. They are afraid the people will wake up
and rise up and reject them. And we have the
power to do that if we will wake up in time.
And I'm also concerned, to be honest, I know this
(38:47):
is going to get a little dark. I'm concerned about
a terrible event gutting people and holding the movement back.
Now that terrible event, everyone knows what I'm talking about
right off the batt worry they're going to kill Donald Trump.
I believe they will because corrupt, evil systems kill people
who challenge them. That's just the history of the world.
But let's say it's not that. What if it's just
(39:08):
a loss in November. Everyone thinks Kamala Harris is gonna lose.
She's the moron they'll want to vote for that. Everyone's
done with it?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Everyone? What if she does with What if it's cheating?
What if it's not? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Are all the people who are energized and rising up
right now? Yeah, we're all going to be drowning our
sorrows that night. But are people just gonna say screw it.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
And walk away?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Because if that happens, we're done. If that happens, we
have a dark, ugly, evil future ahead of us if
people stay involved.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
If people get involved, we do not. It's just that simple.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
We will not be determined by Trump or one race
or the House or the Senate. Do the people continue
to rise up and get involved. If they do, we're fine.
If not, we're screwed. That's what worries me because I
don't know. I don't know which way that's going to go.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Historically, sometimes they do rise up and sometimes they just
go meekly into the goolegs.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
You and I talk off air often about things, and
it's almost never politics. It's interesting for me because I
follow you on Twitter. You write things and I think
that's exactly how I feel, and we haven't talked about that.
He just put it better than I would, and it's
shocking to me. I've literally never seen an opinion of
yours that you posted, and your opinions are out there
(40:21):
and I go, gosh, I agree with him one hundred
percent of the time. But people will say, what do
you and Jesse talk about? And I'll say, we talk
about our families. We talk about what's going on our
personal lives. We talk about which part of our body's
fallen apart because we're not as young as we used
to be. When you talk about being a father, which
you don't talk as much about that on the air
(40:42):
as I think you should, how are you different as
a father talking to the nation every night about and
every day about what's going on in this country? Because
I'm different, I know, how.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Are you different?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I don't think I am and if anything, it can
come off I know it can. She'll, she'll, She'll say
to me, it can come off as very direct and harsh.
But my boys are at the age where, well even
when they were younger, I.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Just don't sugarcoat things for them. If they came home
one day in class.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Or from school and their teacher told them that FDR
was the greatest president ever, I will not dance around it.
Your teacher is an idiot, and FDR was a scumbag
communist and I can't stand him. So it doesn't mean
you get in trouble in class. You keep your mouth shut,
but your teacher doesn't know what the hecker they're talking about.
And I don't know that that's the right way. I
certainly don't think I'm Father of the Year, but I
(41:39):
will tell you my sons I've met your sons in
the same way. But my sons are very much prepared
for when they hear crap.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
They can sniff it a mile away now.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Because of how we've raised them, how we've bet there
was a there's a new there's a Disney movie coming out.
I don't know what the stupid thing is. Some robots
running through the forest, with animals and crap. Everyone's probably
seen the advertisers anywhere, And immediately we were at the movies,
I forget what we were going to see. My youngest,
he's not even the political one.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
My oldest is.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
He looks at me and he says, you know, that's
just gonna be a bunch of climate change propaganda.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's my boy, right.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
They and if you teach them how to sniff out
all the garbage when you're in a system of lies,
when everything on the TV is a lie, and every
movie's a propaganda piece, and everything's a lie, if you
teach them how to see that instead of what every
individual story is, then they pick up on it so fast.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
It makes me so proud. When they pick up on it.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Before, I don't have to say anything because I know
I'm prepping them to enter a world of lies.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
That's the world we live in now.
Speaker 11 (42:42):
And if parents had been parents, then the young voters,
especially today, wouldn't be making the mistakes they were.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Well, we were. There was this law that is a
very understandable law.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
With the previous generation's previous generation or two, they had
been raised in a normal country, and they'd been raised
by normal parents, and the rot and corruption and evil
at the top was not broadcast every day on the news.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
It wasn't nearly as evident.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You had little glimpses of this, and that it wasn't
breaking news that LBJ was a corrupt piece of trash.
You started an entire war over These things are known.
It's not like they were completely like lost. But you
didn't know that you had to teach your kids to
wake up and be be activists.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
You didn't know that you can't raise your kids. Why
we don't talk politics, You can't do. It's not an
option anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
If you send your kids out there, they're gonna get
eaten alive.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
By the wolves in the society like that. You better
prep them now.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
But that generation didn't know because they weren't trying to
blow the Republican nominees head off and chop kids' penises off.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
When my parents were raising it just didn't work out
that much.
Speaker 11 (43:52):
So Saturday, we're chatting and I said, come over, I
smoke cigars. You don't, but let's have some urbans and
catch up on things and celebrate and enjoy some good fellowship.
And you said, I'm at a cross country track meet
out in the sun while everybody else in America's watching
college football and enjoying themselves. But I got to tell you,
(44:15):
I think those experiences connect us to real Americans because
you and I both know that Kamala Harris is not
a real American. Her husband is not a real American.
Joe Biden's this is not They do not live the
lives that real Americans live. You need to be at
that cross country meet, which is why you're there. You
need to be out there in the sun. You need
to be spending four hours to watch your kid run
(44:36):
for ten minutes. And I think that helps us understand
what people are going through. Because you've been hanging out
with Tucker crosson tonight, it's very easy to get alienated
from the people sitting in those seats and the lives
they're leading, and to communicate with those people.
Speaker 12 (44:52):
And I think that's an important part of what we
do that we tend to take for granted.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
We do take it for granted.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
And as soon as you start, as soon as you
st start making some money, right you get you get
the successful enough of media, you're gonna start making good money.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
People aren't naive. They know you're making good money, you can.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Quickly price yourself out of experiencing with other people, experience
at all. No, no, I'm not going to I'm not
going to cross a cross countries an hour and a
half away. I want to sleep in. You know what,
send that said that we don't have a nanny, But
send the nanny with the kids, and you can.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
You can. You can use your money to price yourself
out of the way.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Everyday people live. So you're never in the grocery store
sticker shocked at the.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Price of beef.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
You're never at a cross country tournament rotting in miserable
heat with all the other parents because your kid doesn't
race again for another two hours.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
It's just you never. You don't if you didn't, and
if you do that, you're done. If you lose connection
to people, you're done. That was me, That was Michael.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
It was a good time. Now, lighting the mood is
always a good time, isn't it. We have a great
one for you next. All right, it is time to
lighten the mood. And we all know Dome likes to
change accents depending on which crowd she's in. I really
(46:12):
really enjoyed the new Latina Dome.
Speaker 8 (46:19):
I love you Bag, I love you, Bag, I love
you Bag.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I love you Mommy.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Anyway, Sable
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