Tulsi Gabbard just declassified serious documents implicating Barack Obama in a grand conspiracy. Will anyone go down for this? Jesse Kelly discusses with Ned Ryun and Steve Deace. Plus, what do the WNBA and Stephen Colbert have in common? Find out.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about this Obama Russian hoax. Steve Das is
gonna join us. We have we have to have a
discussion about communists and how they use power versus how
we use power. Plus we'll make fun of the WNBA.
Well that's coming up, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Right, Okay, let's discuss this Obama Russian hoax thing, and
we're gonna discuss it kind of in a more broad
term about communists and how they view power versus how
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we view power, because we get something wrong about them
all the time.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And we'll get to that in a moment before. Before
we do that, though, let's focus on what the deal
is now. You are a hyper informed person. I'm not
trying to flatter you. You're here watching I'm right on
the first TV. There are a ton of things on TV,
ton of things on your your app whatever you could
be watching. Instead you're watching this. You're someone who's interested
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in politics and power in your country, so you're very
informed on the issues and the scandals and everything else.
When I say that Barack Obama concocted the whole Russian
hoax thing used government power to destroy his political opponents,
you're either a not surprised or be you really knew
a lot of that already. But here's the deal. It's
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one thing for you or me to sit here and
talk about this, go out, get a beer, discuss it
with friends. It's another thing entirely for Tulsey Gabbard, DNI,
Director of National Intelligence to not only talk about it,
to lay it out in video form and call for heads.
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I'm going to hand her the show here for a
couple of minutes as she lays out what that filthy
street communist from Chicago did.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
This President's Daily Brief document that drafted for President Obama
in early December that reaffirmed what the intelligence community professionals,
as you say, had been assessing for the previous six
months leading up to the election, which was that Russia
neither had the intent nor capability to essentially hack the
outcome of the US election. As you said, President Obama's
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political appointees pulled that document before it could be published,
and it has not been published.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Until we released it today.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And the very next day after they pulled that document,
President Obama called a National Security Council Cabinet meeting to
discuss how Russia interfered with the election.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Again, this is the.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
First of December ninth.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
President Trump had already won, correct, and nine became that's
exactly right. The December ninth meeting, we declassified and release
the what they called the Summary of Conclusions from that meeting.
Then D and I James Clapper took the lead on
what President Obama wanted done, and which was essentially create
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a document that tells us not if, but how Russia
interfered with the election.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
President Obama delivered.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The conclusion that he wanted the intelligence community to reach
and directed them to find and essentially create and manufacture
the intelligence to support the conclusion that President Obama wanted
to deliver to the American people. Once that document was drafted,
the deep State kicked into gear and.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Did what they usually do.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
They started leaking this classified information out to their friends
at the Washington Post and others who are working hand
in glove with the Deep State to lay the groundwork
for the assessment that they eventually released.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That served as the basis once again.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
For this year's long coup, with the goal of trying
to subvert the American people's well and you serve President
Trump from being able to deliver on the mandate that
the American people gave to him when they chose to
elect him as President of the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, so I know that was a lot. Allow me
to just briefly recap that in a little bit simpler
terms for idiots like me. First, let's get this out
of the way. In America, in politics here in the
United States of America, obviously we have two major political parties,
Democrat and Republican. You understand that you will politic with
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your party, There's no question you'll play politics. Republicans will
serve Republicans, and Democrats will serve Democrats, and they'll attack
Republicans and Republicans that will attack Democrats. You understand all that.
But once you are in elected office at any level, president,
mayor does everything in between doesn't matter. Once you are
in elected office, it is actually the law that all
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that political stuff stops. Yes, you're still a Democrat and
you're gonna push forward Democrat priorities, but you don't get
it's not allowed. It's against the law to use the
forces of government for political reasons, for elections, to attack
your political opponents. That is not only wrong, sick and evil,
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it's against the law. Just so we're clear about that.
I know that's a basic point. Now let's get to
the other point she just laid out. Twenty sixteen, Donald
Trump wins an election, chocks everybody. Barack Obama is still
president of the United States of America. Remember, until Donald
Trump is sworn in, Barack Obama's intelligence guys bring him
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a document that says, hey, these uh Russians. I know,
we're trying to paint Trump as a Russian stooge and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They didn't hack the election. They didn't want to. In fact,
this document they couldn't even if they wanted to. Barack
Obama says, oh, okay, throw that in the paper, shredder,
and bring me back intelligence that proves they did. And
then they did, meaning the intelligence community cooked the books,
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invented intelligence to smear Donald Trump as a Russian agent
Vladimir Putin. This not only unleashed the intelligence community against
Donald Trump by pretending he's some foreign spy lawbreaker, it
also allowed the American media to beat you over the
face with things like this every single day. There is
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circumstantial evidence of collusion.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
It's super obvious already he is a Russian asset.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He is clearly a Russian asset. The president is acting
like he is the asset for Russia.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Back then, my biggest fear was we had elected an
asset of the Russian government.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You would sell out America at every opportunity just to
save his own hide. My biggest fear now is that
I was right.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Do you still believe the president could be a Russian asset?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I think it's possible.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
It is a possibility, and I would add to that
caveat that whether winning or unwinning.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And that is a really painful thing to say.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
As I just explained, I know it was an obvious point.
You're not allowed to politic with your position in government.
I'll tell you a quick story before we go to Tulsa. Gabbert.
Back when I was running for Congress and losing two elections,
I had to fly back to DC and try to
meet with various Congressmen and senators trying to get endorsements,
get in to write a campaign a check, something like that,
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get some campaign donations out of them. Did you know
that I was not allowed to take those meetings asking
for endorsements and money. I was not allowed to take
those meetings in the government building, not on cap who
not in the congressional offices? Why the Congressional Office is
not a Republican office. That office is an official office
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of the United States government, and I can't go meet
with him in a government office on government time and
politic for Republicans. It's wrong. It's against the law. What
Barack Obama did is against the law. Here's Telsea Gabbert
to me.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
It sounds like you have appointed powerful bureaucrats that just
flat out created a narrative that was false to undermine
a duly elected president. Now, if that's not a grand conspiracy,
I don't know what would be. Do you see crimes here?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I do, Sean, And I'm referring all of these documents
that we have found and uncovered, referring them to the
Department of Justice for further investigation. Accountability and action, not
just investigation, but action. Accountability has to take place. The
American people's ability to have faith and trust in the
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integrity of our democratic republic is literally what's at stake,
and therefore the future of our ability to exist as.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
The country that we know it.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
This accountability is critical to make sure that this never
happens again.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, She sounds good. I'm gonna leave the facts of
the case now because well, I'll just lay this out
for you. Now it's up to Pam Bondi. Tulsea Gabbert
did the right thing. She exposed the criminals, she exposed
the crimes. She handed these documents over, She handed everything
over to the DOJ. Now, no more excuse time for
Pam Bondi. No more Fox News interviews, no more nothing, No,
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no sitting down with the President and having him pat
her on the back. Now's Pam Bondi's test. Send government
to people, government, people to prison over this or your failure. Period.
End of story. All that aside, This is actually the
point I wanted to get it to. Okay, Obama, his cronies,
they broke the law. They used government power against their
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political opponents. But here's something the right doesn't quite understand
because we don't think like this, we don't share their values.
For a communist, he would never dream of doing anything
but that. Remember, he's not only a destroyer. He believes
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in using government power to reward his friends and punish
his enemies. So law, no law wrong, These things don't
enter his mind. And this applies to so much more
than Barack Obama. This is what we have never gotten
because we don't look at power this way. And I'm
glad we don't, by the way, But when the communist
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takes power at any level, it could be your child's
second grade teacher. She's going to use every bit of
power she has to push forward the revolution. If she's
the FBI director, she will push forward. If she's the president,
she will push forward the revolution. And these limits on
what she should be doing with power, honestly, they seem
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infantile to the communist. The communist will use his or
her power wherever you give it to them, and the
power is always used for the revolution. If you allow
them into your company, into your place of business, they
will figure out a way to use your business for
the revolution. That is what we are up against. For
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a communist like Barack Obama, mentored by people like Frank
Marshall Davis, who actually had a communist card, he actually
has a number. Barack Obama was raised nurtured by communists.
People wonder how so much damage has been done since
he walked in there. He walked in there, and for
eight years he filled every part of this government up
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with other communists who have no time for laws or
restrictions on power. They are fighting a revolution from within
in our government, and many, many, many, I would argue,
most of them are still right there. So how do
we stop it? Well, I just brought up Pam BONDI.
Here's the ugly truth. As you've heard me say many
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times before. Communists only understand fear and pain. You're not
going to appeal to their morality. Hey, that was wrong,
and they're gonna laugh in your face. I don't care
about things like that. People have to go to prison
now because those communists are still in the government and
they will do the same thing again and again and
again and again and again unless they look at what
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happens to the last people who did it and say
oooh oh, man Clapper's in prison. I don't want that
to happen to me. I better not do this. Fear
and pain is all they understand. Time for Pam BONDI
to give it to them. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. We will ask Ned
Ryan about this and so many other things in a
(12:57):
moment before we get to all that. I know you're
probably stressed. You know what I do When I stress,
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(13:21):
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Speaker 5 (14:09):
The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign.
They spied at my campaign.
Speaker 8 (14:14):
There's no real evidence of that.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Of course there is. It's all over the place, Leslie.
They spied of my campaign and they got ca Can
I say something?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know, this is sixty minutes and we can't put
on things we can't.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Verify it on because it's bad for Biden.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
We can't.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
We can't, very, Leslie, they spied to my campaign.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's fine, totally verified.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
It's been Just go down and get the papers. They
spied on my campaign. They got caught, No, and then
they went much further than that, and they got caught.
And you will see that, Leslie, and you know that,
but you just don't want to go.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
As a matter of fact, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Oh man, did that age like a gallon of milk
on my front porch in Houston in the summertime? Joining
me now my friend ned Ryan you can of course
find him an American Leviathan dot com ned. I am
so enjoying this. I'm totally cynical that anyone's actually going
to go to prison, as no one ever does. But
I'm still enjoying this.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
I have to tell you, I'm quietly optimistic that someone,
and actually multiple people are going to be prosecuted for
what they did in this treason, this conspiracy Jesse. What
Tulsi Gabbard said on Friday is that they have over
one hundred documents that actually link to President Obama actually
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directing this entire conspiracy out of the Oval Office, something
that we've suspected for eight years, that this really would
end up in the Oval Office with Barack Obama and
Joe Biden, John Brennan, James Comey, a criminal conspiracy, moving
slow moving coup against Donald J. Trump in which they
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not only attempted to destroy the peace will transfer of power,
but tried to take out Donald J. Trump. So I
think there's going to be enough evidence. And I would
remind people the statute of Limitations only begins on a
criminal conspiracy when that conspiracy is disavowed or in the
last case of perjury. And so I would argue in
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the spring of twenty three, when John Brennan perjured himself
in front of Congress and said he had nothing to
do with putting the fake Steele dossier in the twenty
seventeen Intel Community assessment, he perjured himself for the documents
that current CIA Director John Ratcliffe just released a few
weeks ago. So I would argue, if you say, it's
a five year statute of limitations on a criminal conspiracy.
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We've gotten until twenty twenty eight to pursue this. And
the other thing I'll say is this, Jesse, I want
to be very clear on this. I didn't make the rules,
but now the rules are that you can actually prosecute
a next president, a former president, give him muck shot
and pursue prosecute him. And I think we would be
I sincerely hope that Pam Bondi cash Bettel actually go
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and pursue and prosecute Barack Obama for his treasonous and
seditious conspiracy against Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I do too, Ned, don't give me hope. Don't
give me hope. And I'll tell you why, because I
have a little bit too. Like it's just this twinkling
little bit of hope in the back of my mind.
Because when you have the DNI director laying the documents
all out and essentially spoon feeding this to Pam Bondy,
I've wanted government people to go to prison for so
long it almost feels like we have a chance here.
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But then you say words like perjury net and that
sounds like a slap on the wrist to me, who
can go to prison for how long?
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Well, it all depends on how far they pursue this,
and obviously what they're going after is conspiracy. They have
to go to jail. Jesse. I mean, the fact of
the matter is this, in some ways isn't really about them.
It's about the foundational principles of this country. Rule of law,
equal application of the law.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Law.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Obviously you don't break the law from those power those
positions of power, and abuse public trust. I mean, there's
a lot of fundamental things here that I think really
will decide who are we as a people, who as
we are as a country, our government twenty years from now.
And so I think it's incumbent upon Pam Bondi and
Cash Betel to actually pursue this all the way to
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the end and that there are actual consequences for this,
because it's a fundamental issue to me. If there's no consequences,
you know, it tells people that there's no really there's
not real rule of law, there's not equal application of it,
and it continues to build the distrust of the American
people and their institutions, which I think is another fundamental issue.
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It's a critical issue for this country. When people lose
trust in their institutions, everything starts to fall apart. And
when you use the DOJ and the FBI are intel
community as political weapons against political opponents over policy differences
and there's no consequences for it, how on earth are
you expecting the American people to trust these institutions in
the future. So, Pam Bondy and Cash Betel, I hope
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understand the gravity of this situation, and I hope that
they will actually build the case in such a way.
And I think that Tolsey's given them a ton of
documentation to be able to take this all the way.
And I think it's going to go to Barack Obama,
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Andrew McCabe, James call Me, James Baker,
General Counsel the FBI, John Brennan, and James Clapper. And
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that's just to start. I think there's more, including Susan Rice,
that should be held accountable for their actions.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Ned I am By the way, I just want to
be clear for everybody watching right now in the White House,
I am not making pre excuses for Pam Bondy, but
I have heard and I know you've heard the same thing.
You have great sources too. Pam Bondy's trying to clean
out the DJ because there's so many filthy communists in
the DJ, and I have heard that she's having a
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very difficult time filling those positions because no lawyer once
their life destroyed for defending Donald Trump and working for
Pam Bondy. Does Pam Bondy have the troops she need
to take these people down?
Speaker 8 (20:11):
I hope so. And I also hope the White House
will empower the DOJ to fill some of these slots
in which you know, these there were leftists attorneys DOJ
lawyers that left as soon as Pam Bondy and Harmeat
Dylan everyone else walked into that building. There are plenty
of slots that can be filled, should be filled with
available conservative talent, and I hope that the White House
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clears the DOJ to be able to fill those positions
and not find themselves hung up on well, we're going
to have cost savings. This is a moment in time
in which I think the DOJ needs to be fully
empowered with all of the conservative lawyers that it confined
to fill those slots that were emptied by the leftist
lawyers that left the building out of protest when Pam
Bondy and Harmeat Dillan and others walked in. So I
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hope the White House is not limiting the DOJ in
their capabilities.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Then switching gears at least a little bit here. We
seem to be getting good rulings for clearing out the
Levah thing, for clearing out the bureaucracy. What have we seen?
Are you happy? It sounds like the kind of thing
it would make ned dance for joy.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
It's a significant start in the right direction, Jesse. I
mean the recent Supreme Court decision in regards to Trump's
dealing with the Department of Education being able to shut
it down. I think that's a massive step in the
right direction. You know, we've seen twenty two thousand, roughly
federal employees that have left the federal government since the
beginning of this administration. Step in the right direction. I
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think it's one thing where Trump's going to have to
continue to push this. I'm not going to be happy
unless you see the Department of Education completely shut down.
I know we've discussed this before. The building imploded and
his Garden of Heroes built over where the Department of
Education used to be, and then he keeps on going.
He shuts down HUD and one or two other departments,
and then the twenty two thousand is a nice start, Jesse,
but of its own volition, before Donald Trump even showed up,
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eight hundred thousand federal employees by this government have been
deemed non essential. So until we get to the eight
hundred thousand number and reducing the federal government by that figure,
I'm not going to be happy. I mean, this is
a moment in time in which Donald Trump and I
applaud him, I applaud his administration for doing what they're
doing already, but they need to continue pushing hard on
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this to make sure they completely dismantle or at least
give us the steps in the right direction to dismantle
this administrative state, destroy this bureaucracy, and again shift the
balance of power in which the duly elected representatives are
the ones in charge now, and any bureaucrats that are
still around are answering to the duly elected representatives of
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the people and that they fully understand the ones who
decide and the ones who govern in this country are
those that are elected by the American people to be
their representatives. It is not rule of the bureaucrat, and
we have to destroy that to make sure that we
understand people understand in a constitutional re public it's the
duly elected representatives of the American people that decide, not
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the bureaucrats.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Ned there's always a big story or a big issue
we're ignoring, myself included. You know, we chase headlines. I
try to see past them, but I fail. What are
we paying attention to right now?
Speaker 8 (23:20):
I think we're paying attention to most of the big issues.
I will say this one of the things that I mean,
I love Donald Trump. I love this administration. They're making
massive steps in the right direction. I don't want to
lose sight of this battle over mass deportations. I think
that's one of the issues that we can we need
to continue to push on. I'm not interested in amnesty
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at all on any level. I'm not interested in a
carve out for farm workers because if you give them
a carve out, then the restaurants, the hotel business, everybody
else is gonna want to carve out. This is our
chance and our opportunity to continue to push to decouple
our economy from illegal immigrant work and so I think
that's one thing that we don't want to lose in
the shuffle of everything taking place. A lot of great
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things happening. Let's not lose sight of this. And I
will say this too. The other thing that I want
to stress, and it's one thing that we do very
well at American Majority Action to see four, Let's not
lose sight that the midterms are coming up, and it's
November of twenty six. It's going to come up a
lot sooner than we think, and there's a lot of
important work that needs to be done in a lot
of the key house districts. Twenty twenty six. To me,
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Jesse is about the House majority. I feel fairly confident
about the Senate, but we need to start talking about
doing more voter registration, absentee ballot generation because the last
thing we need to do see happen is for Democrats
to take the House back and impeach Trump literally the
first day they probably sworn into office and derail everything
that Trump is attempting to do. So I would say
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a couple of those stories right there. I'm not going
to lose focus on that because I think they're absolutely
key for us holding on to power in twenty six,
in twenty eight and thirty, so that then the census
numbers can kick in and we can gain anywhere from
thirteen to twenty five electoral votes and House seats and
red states.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Absolutely ned, Thank you brother. As always. All right, we're
going to talk about kind of culture war, but really
it's going to be about life employment. We're going to
switch gears just for a minute here. Before we go
through that, let me talk to you about fresh food.
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Till I got married to a health freak, it's not
really something I focused on. Didn't really care if something
was fresh or not fresh. But my wife is obsessed
with fresh things, and so that's what we've done. But
we've never done it with olive oil until recently. Who
cares about how fresh olive oil is? Right, surely it's
all the same. Just go down the grocery aisle and
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just grab a bottle of it and it'll all taste
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Fresh two four six dot com. We'll be back. Okay,
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it's time to look. I guess it's gonna kind of
be a culture war thing. But at the same time,
it's not going to be a culture war thing. Let's
talk briefly about this WNBA thing, not that we're going
to discuss WNBA things very often on this show. So
that's the Women's professional basketball if we're gonna call it that.
(26:51):
They recently had an All Star game and these morons
ran out there and shirts that said pay us what
you owe us, And of course everybody knows. By now
it's been reported why they reported that the WNBA lost
forty million dollars last year alone. They lose money every year.
(27:13):
It is a charity for lesbians. It's not a profitable league. Now.
I am not doing this segment to make fun of
the WNBA. They beclown themselves enough without any effort from
me whatsoever. I am doing this for you, and this
is more for younger people, but I guess some older
people may need this lesson as well. There's a lot
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of people that didn't have fathers. Apparently. Here's how it works.
Here's how pay works. The world works, business works, capitalism works,
economics works. I don't know how you want to put it,
but here's how it works. You you have to provide
value to your employer. The value you provide to your
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employer will be in some way with you. He's going
to take a cut of it. After all, he's the employer.
You're going to take a cut of it. I hope
you get the most you can. I'm always rooting for you.
You're the employee, but you must provide value. Now, do
you know what determines your income level. It's not how
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good you think you are, how important you think you are,
how necessary your job is. Actually has nothing to do
with what you make. Here's what will determine what you make,
the scarcity of your marketable skills. The scarcity of your
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marketable skills. I love a good fast food cheeseburger as
much as the next man, and I value the people,
mostly younger people who work in that profession. That's hard work.
You don't make any money, but anyone can do it.
That's why you make minimum wage because it's not very scarce.
Anyone can do. This applies to other professions that we
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value even more. Teachers, cops, even he deserves to make more.
He teaches history. Ah, a lot of people can teach history.
I'm not dismissing teaching history. It's wonderful. I love you
history teachers out there. But a lot of people can
do it, so you're not gonna make a lot of money.
That brings me to the WNBA. There are a lot
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of people who can awkwardly saunter down the court and
brick a layup. That is that is not something people crave.
Employers crave. That's why the league loses forty million dollars
a year. Nobody watches, nobody cares. Watching women play basketball
has always been and will always be completely embarrassing because
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basketball is a story. It's a sport purely about athleticism.
Women can do gymnastics or beach volleyball even better, but
basketball it's about running and jumping. It requires athleticism, and
women simply aren't as athletic as men are. Therefore, nobody watches. Therefore,
the league loses tens of million dollars a year. Now
(30:09):
I realize the league is full of a bunch of entitled,
spoiled brats who have never had a father who will
teach them that conversation that I just had with you. Nevertheless,
facts remain as they are. You will be paid on
the scarcity of your marketable skills. That actually brings me
(30:30):
perfectly to Colbert. Stephen Colbert lost his job millions and
millions and millions and millions of dollars a year gone. Now,
why Stephen Colbert wasn't funny, It wasn't funny. You didn't
tune in. He hated your guts, he hated my guts,
and so we turned the television channel off. Now he
(30:54):
has a huge staff, like two hudred people work for
that show. Huge staff of people work for the show.
Show loses money. Therefore bye bye. You See, anybody can
go on television and not be funny. Most people go
on television and aren't funny at all. You don't get
to keep your job that way. The scarcity of your
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marketable skills create value for your employer. You always have
a job, You'll always make some money, all right. I
hope that sum that up. Now that's enough for the
culture war little segment. Let's move on and talk about, well,
how do we fight a culture war. It's already happening.
That's why shows like Cobert get canceled. You are doing
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be bad. Seems to be no real penalty for saying
(32:31):
something that's demonstrably false. It just it's okay, no, it's not.
Oh yeah, we have a we have a trust definite
where because people don't know if they can be sure
somebody's telling the truth, why should I trust that person?
So we stop trusting each other most of the time.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And that's dangerous also for our future.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Ah I wonder why there's a trust deficit. Gosh, joining
me now, my friend Steve Day's, host of the wonderful
Steve day Show. Hey, Steve Francis wants to know why
there's a trust deficit in this society. Why do you
think there's a trust deficit?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
I don't even know what to say to that. I mean,
the levels of gas lighting there, I mean it is.
I mean, it's Jeffrey Epstein hosting a daddy daughter date. Okay,
I mean it's you know, ruminations on anti Semitism from
the Aryan nation. I just don't even know what to
say to that. Jesse, I mean that guy. First of all,
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this is what happens when people aren't given a trial,
you know, for their life, when you don't have tribunals
after what was done to us and continues to be
done for us or done to us. I mean little
things like my audiologists telling me me and we've had
this rash of eighteen nineteen year old I've never seen
this before having tonightis you know, infections in their ear drums.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Really weird.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Just happened in the last few years, just that kind
of stuff, And no one's gone to prison, No one's
been put on trial. Debbie Burks is still out there
running her dazzled scarf when she should have been on
trial for being where she would have been hung with
it if she was convicted for what she did in
the country, Jesse. And so this is what you get
when there aren't any penalties for bad behavior, let alone
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just flat out wickedness.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Steve, I talked to Ned Ryan about this a little earlier,
and I talked about it in the open. I really
think this Tulsa Gathered revelation which was no surprise to
you about what Barack Obama did, and Clapper and Brennan
and the rest of them. I frankly think this is
a very important part in American history right now, that
this will determine our way forward, just for precisely what
(34:37):
you just said. If you can get away with that
without consequence, if the next generation of communists see them
get away with that without consequence, then I don't see
how we put the band back together. Steve.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Well, there's a couple of different meta points here, one
of them you just touched on. I mean, we just
went through an ordeal where the Democrats tried to take
a former US president and put him in prison for
ninety years, all right, because he may not have disclosed
one hundred and thirty thousand dollars hush money payment to
a porn star from a tryst that happened over twenty
years ago. Here we have a former president who knowingly
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instigated and promoted something that his own intelligence assets told
him was a scam. Not to mention, those exact same
intelligence assets stayed quiet and mum for the next four
years as we were inundated with story after story, new
cycle after news cycle, and including an impeachment of nothing
but that story and an independent council to boot at
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the exact same time. So if that's not at least
borderline treasonous, I don't know what is. So if they can,
if there's not, and that brings me by next to
metapoint here, Jesse. If there's not mutually assured destruction, you
can't keep a culture together. And this is where we
are right now. We have a political duopoly. It's pretty
much what we've had post reconstruction in America with a
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two party system. And yes, are there's a uniparty element
two things, but by and large, to the average American,
they believe their viewpoints are represented most of the time
by one of.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
These two parties.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
When you have a duopoly system, if you do not
have mutually assured destruction, a duopoly like the United States
and the Soviet Union from when we were kids, right
what Reagan realized was, Hey, because we've been so weak
as a country for the last two decades, the crazies
in the Kremlin are starting to think they're going to
win a nuclear war, that they can really push the
button and come out on top. And so we need
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to create a deterrent. They need to see that no
one can win this. The only way to win the game,
as wargames once said, is to not play. To win,
is to not play the game. They need to see
that there's mutually assured destruction. There's a real deterrent. We
don't have that right now, and so what happens when
the other side wins. They think they can literally just
say do whatever they want to people like you and
me and our audiences, and there's no repercussions whatsoever. They
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can have the biggest scan we've ever seen the entirety
of the Biden presidency, where he wouldn't have passed a
competency hearing if this was a corporate takeover and trying
to install him as CEO, let alone president, And yet
his infrastructure goes up there and pleads the fit they
should have been referred to criminal prosecution. Five minutes after that. See,
if you don't have that, you can't have epler abus
unim And especially because of the Marxism and the Communism,
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the other side has now been marinated in. If there's
no natural deterrent whatsoever, they will not deter themselves. And
the stuff you saw under Biden, the largest invasion of
our homeland ever in our history, the largest censorship industrial
complex deployed ever in our history. What we're talking about
here with Russia collusion and more, forcing people by government
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decree to take an inject to poison into their bodies
to have a job. That those are the proto versions
of what is to come later if we do not
re establish mutually assured destruction as a deterrent, So.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Will we steve You know, I'm cynical. I know your cynical.
That's probably why we get along. But when the DNI
comes out with the documents and he says, I have
the goods, I've got the papers, I've referred that to
the DOJ. These are crimes. Someone better go to jail.
Even old forty four year old bald gray jaded me
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starts to get a little flicker of hope in his heart.
Am I crazy?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
I don't think you're crazy, because these are definitive actions.
I mean what Congresswoman Luna did earlier in the day
referring Chairman Powell to the DOJ for perjury prosecutions. See,
these are definitive actions. This isn't another James Comer subcommittee,
just defeat talking points to people that do what you
and I to do for a living and get our
audiences all riled up, get all the clicks engagement, but
then nothing actually happens, and we feel like Scotti Scheffler
(38:36):
last week, vanity is vanity, All is vanity. Right, We're
now actually getting definitive actions. And so the Department of
Justice is going to decide whether or not Congresswoman Luna's
allegations against your own Powell are adequate or not. So
someone's going to get exposed here as a clown, either
Pam Bondi or Congresswoman Luma Luna. Same thing's going to
happen here on a much bigger for much bigger stakes
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where Barack Obama is concerned. And see this brings us
back to Pam bonding to me. This is she ought
to be relieved, she's getting these opportunities. This is a
chance for her to reignite and restart and reboot her
administration there at DOJ after the complete clown show that's
been the Epstream Epstein story since they gave people that
you and I both know, probably on a personal level,
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those binders have made complete clowns and fools out of them.
Now here's the thing, though, if she doesn't see it
that way, if she's tense, if she's nervous, then she
has to be replaced, all right. You cannot go after
a former president of the United States with a guy
at your bullpen with a forty seven er and his
last seven start, last seven appearances.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
All right.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
If you're going after a former president, then you bring
in the best arm out of the bullpen that you have.
And so what needs to happen right now at the
Trump administration is they need to surmise whether Pam Bondi
just got off to a terrible start and for whatever reason,
there's more to the Epstein story than they thought, and
now they're concerned about with the actual ramifications of letting
this out are going to be well, then fine, Then
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you need to figure out if she's up to the
task of going ou after a former president and then
also the most powerful unelected figure in America, the head
of the Federal Reserve. Those are high value targets, Jesse.
You do not bring somebody out of the bullpen to
close those cases out who just doesn't have the utmost
confidence and the team around them doesn't have confidence in
them either as well. So I think that's the big
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decision that needs to be made right now.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Do we have people I mean Bondi aside, although she's
important here, do we have people with the legal chops
to take on the thousand, two thousand dollars an hour lawyers?
These people are going to have Steve, you know as
well as I do. You get what you pay for,
and you most definitely get that when it comes to
the legal profession. These guys are going to bring an
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army of lawyers that are the best in the country.
Do we have something that can match that?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
See, this is an excellent question, and when that doesn't
get asked a lot. I think people don't really realize
that in general, in the legal profession, defense attorneys are
way better than prosecutors just simply because they're paid way
more and there's way more to an incentivization structure to
get into the defense attorney line of work. And so
to me, I think, you go out and maybe I'm
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not a huge fan of the guy myself, but you
and it doesn't necessarily have to beat him, but somebody
like him, and maybe you bring in somebody like Alan
Dershowitz and give him some kind of a special master
or consultants kind of role to help you think the
way that these kinds of seven figure defense attorneys think.
So you're one or two steps ahead of them. I
think one thing we've seen from Pam BONDI she's not
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one or two steps ahead of anything or anybody. And
the fact that James Comey's daughter was allowed to sit
there and lose a high profile case on her watch
six months after she took off its just blows my mind.
And then of course they got rid of her after
she ended up blowing the Diddy case there at the end. Again,
that just would never happen in a Democrat administration. They
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never sit there and say, well, I guess we got
to take this, you know, Republican operatives kin on because
we don't want to interrupt, you know, a legal continuity
here in the middle of such a high profile case.
They would say, that's exactly why we have to do it,
because we can't trust them to do the job. So again,
what you're really asking is the people that are on
our side. Are they cutthroat enough to do the gig?
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That's really what you're asking. And that's where I think again,
you get back to the do you have confidence in
Pambondi or not?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I don't know if I feel better or worse whatever.
Richie meets the Rainbow. By the way, is Steve's new book.
Make sure you go by it. Steve, my brother. As always,
I appreciate you. Come back. All right, we have a
humble light in the mood. Next, all right, it's time
(42:51):
to lighten the mood. And I know that you know
that I tend to be more reserved, laid back even
and of course humble. And yesterday was my birthday. This
is not something I would ever mention on the air
because the last thing in the world I want to
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do is draw attention to me when it's about everyone else,
it's not about me. I'm not a selfish, arrogant person,
but I will say the love you poured out on
me on my birthday, it really brought something home for me,
how important I am, how important I am to everybody.
And so as a little reward to you for my birthday,
(43:34):
I give you gifts on my birthday. You don't have
to give me anything. You can go subscribe to my
YouTube channel for free for free YouTube dot com slash
at Jesse Kelly DC giving that out for free. My
gift to you on my birthday is more me. I'll
see them all
Let's talk about this Obama Russian hoax. Steve Das is
gonna join us. We have we have to have a
discussion about communists and how they use power versus how
we use power. Plus we'll make fun of the WNBA.
Well that's coming up, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Right, Okay, let's discuss this Obama Russian hoax thing, and
we're gonna discuss it kind of in a more broad
term about communists and how they view power versus how
(00:39):
we view power, because we get something wrong about them
all the time.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And we'll get to that in a moment before. Before
we do that, though, let's focus on what the deal
is now. You are a hyper informed person. I'm not
trying to flatter you. You're here watching I'm right on
the first TV. There are a ton of things on TV,
ton of things on your your app whatever you could
be watching. Instead you're watching this. You're someone who's interested
(01:05):
in politics and power in your country, so you're very
informed on the issues and the scandals and everything else.
When I say that Barack Obama concocted the whole Russian
hoax thing used government power to destroy his political opponents,
you're either a not surprised or be you really knew
a lot of that already. But here's the deal. It's
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one thing for you or me to sit here and
talk about this, go out, get a beer, discuss it
with friends. It's another thing entirely for Tulsey Gabbard, DNI,
Director of National Intelligence to not only talk about it,
to lay it out in video form and call for heads.
(01:49):
I'm going to hand her the show here for a
couple of minutes as she lays out what that filthy
street communist from Chicago did.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
This President's Daily Brief document that drafted for President Obama
in early December that reaffirmed what the intelligence community professionals,
as you say, had been assessing for the previous six
months leading up to the election, which was that Russia
neither had the intent nor capability to essentially hack the
outcome of the US election. As you said, President Obama's
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political appointees pulled that document before it could be published,
and it has not been published.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Until we released it today.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And the very next day after they pulled that document,
President Obama called a National Security Council Cabinet meeting to
discuss how Russia interfered with the election.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Again, this is the.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
First of December ninth.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
President Trump had already won, correct, and nine became that's
exactly right. The December ninth meeting, we declassified and release
the what they called the Summary of Conclusions from that meeting.
Then D and I James Clapper took the lead on
what President Obama wanted done, and which was essentially create
(03:08):
a document that tells us not if, but how Russia
interfered with the election.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
President Obama delivered.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The conclusion that he wanted the intelligence community to reach
and directed them to find and essentially create and manufacture
the intelligence to support the conclusion that President Obama wanted
to deliver to the American people. Once that document was drafted,
the deep State kicked into gear and.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Did what they usually do.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
They started leaking this classified information out to their friends
at the Washington Post and others who are working hand
in glove with the Deep State to lay the groundwork
for the assessment that they eventually released.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That served as the basis once again.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
For this year's long coup, with the goal of trying
to subvert the American people's well and you serve President
Trump from being able to deliver on the mandate that
the American people gave to him when they chose to
elect him as President of the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, so I know that was a lot. Allow me
to just briefly recap that in a little bit simpler
terms for idiots like me. First, let's get this out
of the way. In America, in politics here in the
United States of America, obviously we have two major political parties,
Democrat and Republican. You understand that you will politic with
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your party, There's no question you'll play politics. Republicans will
serve Republicans, and Democrats will serve Democrats, and they'll attack
Republicans and Republicans that will attack Democrats. You understand all that.
But once you are in elected office at any level, president,
mayor does everything in between doesn't matter. Once you are
in elected office, it is actually the law that all
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that political stuff stops. Yes, you're still a Democrat and
you're gonna push forward Democrat priorities, but you don't get
it's not allowed. It's against the law to use the
forces of government for political reasons, for elections, to attack
your political opponents. That is not only wrong, sick and evil,
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it's against the law. Just so we're clear about that.
I know that's a basic point. Now let's get to
the other point she just laid out. Twenty sixteen, Donald
Trump wins an election, chocks everybody. Barack Obama is still
president of the United States of America. Remember, until Donald
Trump is sworn in, Barack Obama's intelligence guys bring him
(05:43):
a document that says, hey, these uh Russians. I know,
we're trying to paint Trump as a Russian stooge and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They didn't hack the election. They didn't want to. In fact,
this document they couldn't even if they wanted to. Barack
Obama says, oh, okay, throw that in the paper, shredder,
and bring me back intelligence that proves they did. And
then they did, meaning the intelligence community cooked the books,
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invented intelligence to smear Donald Trump as a Russian agent
Vladimir Putin. This not only unleashed the intelligence community against
Donald Trump by pretending he's some foreign spy lawbreaker, it
also allowed the American media to beat you over the
face with things like this every single day. There is
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circumstantial evidence of collusion.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
It's super obvious already he is a Russian asset.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He is clearly a Russian asset. The president is acting
like he is the asset for Russia.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Back then, my biggest fear was we had elected an
asset of the Russian government.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You would sell out America at every opportunity just to
save his own hide. My biggest fear now is that
I was right.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Do you still believe the president could be a Russian asset?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I think it's possible.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
It is a possibility, and I would add to that
caveat that whether winning or unwinning.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And that is a really painful thing to say.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
As I just explained, I know it was an obvious point.
You're not allowed to politic with your position in government.
I'll tell you a quick story before we go to Tulsa. Gabbert.
Back when I was running for Congress and losing two elections,
I had to fly back to DC and try to
meet with various Congressmen and senators trying to get endorsements,
get in to write a campaign a check, something like that,
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get some campaign donations out of them. Did you know
that I was not allowed to take those meetings asking
for endorsements and money. I was not allowed to take
those meetings in the government building, not on cap who
not in the congressional offices? Why the Congressional Office is
not a Republican office. That office is an official office
(08:09):
of the United States government, and I can't go meet
with him in a government office on government time and
politic for Republicans. It's wrong. It's against the law. What
Barack Obama did is against the law. Here's Telsea Gabbert
to me.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
It sounds like you have appointed powerful bureaucrats that just
flat out created a narrative that was false to undermine
a duly elected president. Now, if that's not a grand conspiracy,
I don't know what would be. Do you see crimes here?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I do, Sean, And I'm referring all of these documents
that we have found and uncovered, referring them to the
Department of Justice for further investigation. Accountability and action, not
just investigation, but action. Accountability has to take place. The
American people's ability to have faith and trust in the
(09:05):
integrity of our democratic republic is literally what's at stake,
and therefore the future of our ability to exist as.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
The country that we know it.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
This accountability is critical to make sure that this never
happens again.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, She sounds good. I'm gonna leave the facts of
the case now because well, I'll just lay this out
for you. Now it's up to Pam Bondi. Tulsea Gabbert
did the right thing. She exposed the criminals, she exposed
the crimes. She handed these documents over, She handed everything
over to the DOJ. Now, no more excuse time for
Pam Bondi. No more Fox News interviews, no more nothing, No,
(09:45):
no sitting down with the President and having him pat
her on the back. Now's Pam Bondi's test. Send government
to people, government, people to prison over this or your failure. Period.
End of story. All that aside, This is actually the
point I wanted to get it to. Okay, Obama, his cronies,
they broke the law. They used government power against their
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political opponents. But here's something the right doesn't quite understand
because we don't think like this, we don't share their values.
For a communist, he would never dream of doing anything
but that. Remember, he's not only a destroyer. He believes
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in using government power to reward his friends and punish
his enemies. So law, no law wrong, These things don't
enter his mind. And this applies to so much more
than Barack Obama. This is what we have never gotten
because we don't look at power this way. And I'm
glad we don't, by the way, But when the communist
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takes power at any level, it could be your child's
second grade teacher. She's going to use every bit of
power she has to push forward the revolution. If she's
the FBI director, she will push forward. If she's the president,
she will push forward the revolution. And these limits on
what she should be doing with power, honestly, they seem
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infantile to the communist. The communist will use his or
her power wherever you give it to them, and the
power is always used for the revolution. If you allow
them into your company, into your place of business, they
will figure out a way to use your business for
the revolution. That is what we are up against. For
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a communist like Barack Obama, mentored by people like Frank
Marshall Davis, who actually had a communist card, he actually
has a number. Barack Obama was raised nurtured by communists.
People wonder how so much damage has been done since
he walked in there. He walked in there, and for
eight years he filled every part of this government up
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with other communists who have no time for laws or
restrictions on power. They are fighting a revolution from within
in our government, and many, many, many, I would argue,
most of them are still right there. So how do
we stop it? Well, I just brought up Pam BONDI.
Here's the ugly truth. As you've heard me say many
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times before. Communists only understand fear and pain. You're not
going to appeal to their morality. Hey, that was wrong,
and they're gonna laugh in your face. I don't care
about things like that. People have to go to prison
now because those communists are still in the government and
they will do the same thing again and again and
again and again and again unless they look at what
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happens to the last people who did it and say
oooh oh, man Clapper's in prison. I don't want that
to happen to me. I better not do this. Fear
and pain is all they understand. Time for Pam BONDI
to give it to them. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. We will ask Ned
Ryan about this and so many other things in a
(12:57):
moment before we get to all that. I know you're
probably stressed. You know what I do When I stress,
I eat, and I usually eat terribly. I'm not gonna lie.
I go for chips. I'm a chip man. Everybody who
knows me knows I'm a chip man. I'm not even
in particular about it. You want the potatoes, to corn, chips,
the cheese, the halapinias, that whatever. But the chips are
terrible for you. I know that, So what do I do?
(13:21):
Somebody told me about massive chips. It was actually Cernovich.
You told me about massive chips, and I kind of
rolled my eyes because massive chips are healthy. There's only
three ingredients. That's gotta suck, right, gotta be horrible. They're amazing, amazing,
three ingredients, not all this, not all this garbage, cancer
(13:43):
causing crap. Three ingredients and they're delicious. My youngest eats
worse than I do. He lives for them. We have
to fight over the bags in the house. You want
to try it, just try try one bag. That'll be
your new chip. I guarantee you go to massa chips
dot com, slash Jesse TV. We'll be back.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign.
They spied at my campaign.
Speaker 8 (14:14):
There's no real evidence of that.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Of course there is. It's all over the place, Leslie.
They spied of my campaign and they got ca Can
I say something?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know, this is sixty minutes and we can't put
on things we can't.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Verify it on because it's bad for Biden.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
We can't.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
We can't, very, Leslie, they spied to my campaign.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's fine, totally verified.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
It's been Just go down and get the papers. They
spied on my campaign. They got caught, No, and then
they went much further than that, and they got caught.
And you will see that, Leslie, and you know that,
but you just don't want to go.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
As a matter of fact, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Oh man, did that age like a gallon of milk
on my front porch in Houston in the summertime? Joining
me now my friend ned Ryan you can of course
find him an American Leviathan dot com ned. I am
so enjoying this. I'm totally cynical that anyone's actually going
to go to prison, as no one ever does. But
I'm still enjoying this.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
I have to tell you, I'm quietly optimistic that someone,
and actually multiple people are going to be prosecuted for
what they did in this treason, this conspiracy Jesse. What
Tulsi Gabbard said on Friday is that they have over
one hundred documents that actually link to President Obama actually
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directing this entire conspiracy out of the Oval Office, something
that we've suspected for eight years, that this really would
end up in the Oval Office with Barack Obama and
Joe Biden, John Brennan, James Comey, a criminal conspiracy, moving
slow moving coup against Donald J. Trump in which they
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not only attempted to destroy the peace will transfer of power,
but tried to take out Donald J. Trump. So I
think there's going to be enough evidence. And I would
remind people the statute of Limitations only begins on a
criminal conspiracy when that conspiracy is disavowed or in the
last case of perjury. And so I would argue in
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the spring of twenty three, when John Brennan perjured himself
in front of Congress and said he had nothing to
do with putting the fake Steele dossier in the twenty
seventeen Intel Community assessment, he perjured himself for the documents
that current CIA Director John Ratcliffe just released a few
weeks ago. So I would argue, if you say, it's
a five year statute of limitations on a criminal conspiracy.
(16:42):
We've gotten until twenty twenty eight to pursue this. And
the other thing I'll say is this, Jesse, I want
to be very clear on this. I didn't make the rules,
but now the rules are that you can actually prosecute
a next president, a former president, give him muck shot
and pursue prosecute him. And I think we would be
I sincerely hope that Pam Bondi cash Bettel actually go
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and pursue and prosecute Barack Obama for his treasonous and
seditious conspiracy against Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I do too, Ned, don't give me hope. Don't
give me hope. And I'll tell you why, because I
have a little bit too. Like it's just this twinkling
little bit of hope in the back of my mind.
Because when you have the DNI director laying the documents
all out and essentially spoon feeding this to Pam Bondy,
I've wanted government people to go to prison for so
long it almost feels like we have a chance here.
(17:36):
But then you say words like perjury net and that
sounds like a slap on the wrist to me, who
can go to prison for how long?
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Well, it all depends on how far they pursue this,
and obviously what they're going after is conspiracy. They have
to go to jail. Jesse. I mean, the fact of
the matter is this, in some ways isn't really about them.
It's about the foundational principles of this country. Rule of law,
equal application of the law.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Law.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Obviously you don't break the law from those power those
positions of power, and abuse public trust. I mean, there's
a lot of fundamental things here that I think really
will decide who are we as a people, who as
we are as a country, our government twenty years from now.
And so I think it's incumbent upon Pam Bondi and
Cash Betel to actually pursue this all the way to
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the end and that there are actual consequences for this,
because it's a fundamental issue to me. If there's no consequences,
you know, it tells people that there's no really there's
not real rule of law, there's not equal application of it,
and it continues to build the distrust of the American
people and their institutions, which I think is another fundamental issue.
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It's a critical issue for this country. When people lose
trust in their institutions, everything starts to fall apart. And
when you use the DOJ and the FBI are intel
community as political weapons against political opponents over policy differences
and there's no consequences for it, how on earth are
you expecting the American people to trust these institutions in
the future. So, Pam Bondy and Cash Betel, I hope
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understand the gravity of this situation, and I hope that
they will actually build the case in such a way.
And I think that Tolsey's given them a ton of
documentation to be able to take this all the way.
And I think it's going to go to Barack Obama,
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Andrew McCabe, James call Me, James Baker,
General Counsel the FBI, John Brennan, and James Clapper. And
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that's just to start. I think there's more, including Susan Rice,
that should be held accountable for their actions.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Ned I am By the way, I just want to
be clear for everybody watching right now in the White House,
I am not making pre excuses for Pam Bondy, but
I have heard and I know you've heard the same thing.
You have great sources too. Pam Bondy's trying to clean
out the DJ because there's so many filthy communists in
the DJ, and I have heard that she's having a
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very difficult time filling those positions because no lawyer once
their life destroyed for defending Donald Trump and working for
Pam Bondy. Does Pam Bondy have the troops she need
to take these people down?
Speaker 8 (20:11):
I hope so. And I also hope the White House
will empower the DOJ to fill some of these slots
in which you know, these there were leftists attorneys DOJ
lawyers that left as soon as Pam Bondy and Harmeat
Dylan everyone else walked into that building. There are plenty
of slots that can be filled, should be filled with
available conservative talent, and I hope that the White House
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clears the DOJ to be able to fill those positions
and not find themselves hung up on well, we're going
to have cost savings. This is a moment in time
in which I think the DOJ needs to be fully
empowered with all of the conservative lawyers that it confined
to fill those slots that were emptied by the leftist
lawyers that left the building out of protest when Pam
Bondy and Harmeat Dillan and others walked in. So I
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hope the White House is not limiting the DOJ in
their capabilities.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Then switching gears at least a little bit here. We
seem to be getting good rulings for clearing out the
Levah thing, for clearing out the bureaucracy. What have we seen?
Are you happy? It sounds like the kind of thing
it would make ned dance for joy.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
It's a significant start in the right direction, Jesse. I
mean the recent Supreme Court decision in regards to Trump's
dealing with the Department of Education being able to shut
it down. I think that's a massive step in the
right direction. You know, we've seen twenty two thousand, roughly
federal employees that have left the federal government since the
beginning of this administration. Step in the right direction. I
(21:37):
think it's one thing where Trump's going to have to
continue to push this. I'm not going to be happy
unless you see the Department of Education completely shut down.
I know we've discussed this before. The building imploded and
his Garden of Heroes built over where the Department of
Education used to be, and then he keeps on going.
He shuts down HUD and one or two other departments,
and then the twenty two thousand is a nice start, Jesse,
but of its own volition, before Donald Trump even showed up,
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eight hundred thousand federal employees by this government have been
deemed non essential. So until we get to the eight
hundred thousand number and reducing the federal government by that figure,
I'm not going to be happy. I mean, this is
a moment in time in which Donald Trump and I
applaud him, I applaud his administration for doing what they're
doing already, but they need to continue pushing hard on
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this to make sure they completely dismantle or at least
give us the steps in the right direction to dismantle
this administrative state, destroy this bureaucracy, and again shift the
balance of power in which the duly elected representatives are
the ones in charge now, and any bureaucrats that are
still around are answering to the duly elected representatives of
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the people and that they fully understand the ones who
decide and the ones who govern in this country are
those that are elected by the American people to be
their representatives. It is not rule of the bureaucrat, and
we have to destroy that to make sure that we
understand people understand in a constitutional re public it's the
duly elected representatives of the American people that decide, not
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the bureaucrats.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Ned there's always a big story or a big issue
we're ignoring, myself included. You know, we chase headlines. I
try to see past them, but I fail. What are
we paying attention to right now?
Speaker 8 (23:20):
I think we're paying attention to most of the big issues.
I will say this one of the things that I mean,
I love Donald Trump. I love this administration. They're making
massive steps in the right direction. I don't want to
lose sight of this battle over mass deportations. I think
that's one of the issues that we can we need
to continue to push on. I'm not interested in amnesty
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at all on any level. I'm not interested in a
carve out for farm workers because if you give them
a carve out, then the restaurants, the hotel business, everybody
else is gonna want to carve out. This is our
chance and our opportunity to continue to push to decouple
our economy from illegal immigrant work and so I think
that's one thing that we don't want to lose in
the shuffle of everything taking place. A lot of great
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things happening. Let's not lose sight of this. And I
will say this too. The other thing that I want
to stress, and it's one thing that we do very
well at American Majority Action to see four, Let's not
lose sight that the midterms are coming up, and it's
November of twenty six. It's going to come up a
lot sooner than we think, and there's a lot of
important work that needs to be done in a lot
of the key house districts. Twenty twenty six. To me,
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Jesse is about the House majority. I feel fairly confident
about the Senate, but we need to start talking about
doing more voter registration, absentee ballot generation because the last
thing we need to do see happen is for Democrats
to take the House back and impeach Trump literally the
first day they probably sworn into office and derail everything
that Trump is attempting to do. So I would say
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a couple of those stories right there. I'm not going
to lose focus on that because I think they're absolutely
key for us holding on to power in twenty six,
in twenty eight and thirty, so that then the census
numbers can kick in and we can gain anywhere from
thirteen to twenty five electoral votes and House seats and
red states.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Absolutely ned, Thank you brother. As always. All right, we're
going to talk about kind of culture war, but really
it's going to be about life employment. We're going to
switch gears just for a minute here. Before we go
through that, let me talk to you about fresh food.
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Till I got married to a health freak, it's not
really something I focused on. Didn't really care if something
was fresh or not fresh. But my wife is obsessed
with fresh things, and so that's what we've done. But
we've never done it with olive oil until recently. Who
cares about how fresh olive oil is? Right, surely it's
all the same. Just go down the grocery aisle and
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(26:28):
it's time to look. I guess it's gonna kind of
be a culture war thing. But at the same time,
it's not going to be a culture war thing. Let's
talk briefly about this WNBA thing, not that we're going
to discuss WNBA things very often on this show. So
that's the Women's professional basketball if we're gonna call it that.
(26:51):
They recently had an All Star game and these morons
ran out there and shirts that said pay us what
you owe us, And of course everybody knows. By now
it's been reported why they reported that the WNBA lost
forty million dollars last year alone. They lose money every year.
(27:13):
It is a charity for lesbians. It's not a profitable league. Now.
I am not doing this segment to make fun of
the WNBA. They beclown themselves enough without any effort from
me whatsoever. I am doing this for you, and this
is more for younger people, but I guess some older
people may need this lesson as well. There's a lot
(27:34):
of people that didn't have fathers. Apparently. Here's how it works.
Here's how pay works. The world works, business works, capitalism works,
economics works. I don't know how you want to put it,
but here's how it works. You you have to provide
value to your employer. The value you provide to your
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employer will be in some way with you. He's going
to take a cut of it. After all, he's the employer.
You're going to take a cut of it. I hope
you get the most you can. I'm always rooting for you.
You're the employee, but you must provide value. Now, do
you know what determines your income level. It's not how
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good you think you are, how important you think you are,
how necessary your job is. Actually has nothing to do
with what you make. Here's what will determine what you make,
the scarcity of your marketable skills. The scarcity of your
(28:39):
marketable skills. I love a good fast food cheeseburger as
much as the next man, and I value the people,
mostly younger people who work in that profession. That's hard work.
You don't make any money, but anyone can do it.
That's why you make minimum wage because it's not very scarce.
Anyone can do. This applies to other professions that we
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value even more. Teachers, cops, even he deserves to make more.
He teaches history. Ah, a lot of people can teach history.
I'm not dismissing teaching history. It's wonderful. I love you
history teachers out there. But a lot of people can
do it, so you're not gonna make a lot of money.
That brings me to the WNBA. There are a lot
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of people who can awkwardly saunter down the court and
brick a layup. That is that is not something people crave.
Employers crave. That's why the league loses forty million dollars
a year. Nobody watches, nobody cares. Watching women play basketball
has always been and will always be completely embarrassing because
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basketball is a story. It's a sport purely about athleticism.
Women can do gymnastics or beach volleyball even better, but
basketball it's about running and jumping. It requires athleticism, and
women simply aren't as athletic as men are. Therefore, nobody watches. Therefore,
the league loses tens of million dollars a year. Now
(30:09):
I realize the league is full of a bunch of entitled,
spoiled brats who have never had a father who will
teach them that conversation that I just had with you. Nevertheless,
facts remain as they are. You will be paid on
the scarcity of your marketable skills. That actually brings me
(30:30):
perfectly to Colbert. Stephen Colbert lost his job millions and
millions and millions and millions of dollars a year gone. Now,
why Stephen Colbert wasn't funny, It wasn't funny. You didn't
tune in. He hated your guts, he hated my guts,
and so we turned the television channel off. Now he
(30:54):
has a huge staff, like two hudred people work for
that show. Huge staff of people work for the show.
Show loses money. Therefore bye bye. You See, anybody can
go on television and not be funny. Most people go
on television and aren't funny at all. You don't get
to keep your job that way. The scarcity of your
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marketable skills create value for your employer. You always have
a job, You'll always make some money, all right. I
hope that sum that up. Now that's enough for the
culture war little segment. Let's move on and talk about, well,
how do we fight a culture war. It's already happening.
That's why shows like Cobert get canceled. You are doing
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(32:31):
something that's demonstrably false. It just it's okay, no, it's not.
Oh yeah, we have a we have a trust definite
where because people don't know if they can be sure
somebody's telling the truth, why should I trust that person?
So we stop trusting each other most of the time.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And that's dangerous also for our future.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Ah I wonder why there's a trust deficit. Gosh, joining
me now, my friend Steve Day's, host of the wonderful
Steve day Show. Hey, Steve Francis wants to know why
there's a trust deficit in this society. Why do you
think there's a trust deficit?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
I don't even know what to say to that. I mean,
the levels of gas lighting there, I mean it is.
I mean, it's Jeffrey Epstein hosting a daddy daughter date. Okay,
I mean it's you know, ruminations on anti Semitism from
the Aryan nation. I just don't even know what to
say to that. Jesse, I mean that guy. First of all,
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this is what happens when people aren't given a trial,
you know, for their life, when you don't have tribunals
after what was done to us and continues to be
done for us or done to us. I mean little
things like my audiologists telling me me and we've had
this rash of eighteen nineteen year old I've never seen
this before having tonightis you know, infections in their ear drums.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Really weird.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Just happened in the last few years, just that kind
of stuff, And no one's gone to prison, No one's
been put on trial. Debbie Burks is still out there
running her dazzled scarf when she should have been on
trial for being where she would have been hung with
it if she was convicted for what she did in
the country, Jesse. And so this is what you get
when there aren't any penalties for bad behavior, let alone
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just flat out wickedness.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Steve, I talked to Ned Ryan about this a little earlier,
and I talked about it in the open. I really
think this Tulsa Gathered revelation which was no surprise to
you about what Barack Obama did, and Clapper and Brennan
and the rest of them. I frankly think this is
a very important part in American history right now, that
this will determine our way forward, just for precisely what
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you just said. If you can get away with that
without consequence, if the next generation of communists see them
get away with that without consequence, then I don't see
how we put the band back together. Steve.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Well, there's a couple of different meta points here, one
of them you just touched on. I mean, we just
went through an ordeal where the Democrats tried to take
a former US president and put him in prison for
ninety years, all right, because he may not have disclosed
one hundred and thirty thousand dollars hush money payment to
a porn star from a tryst that happened over twenty
years ago. Here we have a former president who knowingly
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instigated and promoted something that his own intelligence assets told
him was a scam. Not to mention, those exact same
intelligence assets stayed quiet and mum for the next four
years as we were inundated with story after story, new
cycle after news cycle, and including an impeachment of nothing
but that story and an independent council to boot at
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the exact same time. So if that's not at least
borderline treasonous, I don't know what is. So if they can,
if there's not, and that brings me by next to
metapoint here, Jesse. If there's not mutually assured destruction, you
can't keep a culture together. And this is where we
are right now. We have a political duopoly. It's pretty
much what we've had post reconstruction in America with a
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two party system. And yes, are there's a uniparty element
two things, but by and large, to the average American,
they believe their viewpoints are represented most of the time
by one of.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
These two parties.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
When you have a duopoly system, if you do not
have mutually assured destruction, a duopoly like the United States
and the Soviet Union from when we were kids, right
what Reagan realized was, Hey, because we've been so weak
as a country for the last two decades, the crazies
in the Kremlin are starting to think they're going to
win a nuclear war, that they can really push the
button and come out on top. And so we need
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to create a deterrent. They need to see that no
one can win this. The only way to win the game,
as wargames once said, is to not play. To win,
is to not play the game. They need to see
that there's mutually assured destruction. There's a real deterrent. We
don't have that right now, and so what happens when
the other side wins. They think they can literally just
say do whatever they want to people like you and
me and our audiences, and there's no repercussions whatsoever. They
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can have the biggest scan we've ever seen the entirety
of the Biden presidency, where he wouldn't have passed a
competency hearing if this was a corporate takeover and trying
to install him as CEO, let alone president, And yet
his infrastructure goes up there and pleads the fit they
should have been referred to criminal prosecution. Five minutes after that. See,
if you don't have that, you can't have epler abus
unim And especially because of the Marxism and the Communism,
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the other side has now been marinated in. If there's
no natural deterrent whatsoever, they will not deter themselves. And
the stuff you saw under Biden, the largest invasion of
our homeland ever in our history, the largest censorship industrial
complex deployed ever in our history. What we're talking about
here with Russia collusion and more, forcing people by government
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decree to take an inject to poison into their bodies
to have a job. That those are the proto versions
of what is to come later if we do not
re establish mutually assured destruction as a deterrent, So.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Will we steve You know, I'm cynical. I know your cynical.
That's probably why we get along. But when the DNI
comes out with the documents and he says, I have
the goods, I've got the papers, I've referred that to
the DOJ. These are crimes. Someone better go to jail.
Even old forty four year old bald gray jaded me
(38:08):
starts to get a little flicker of hope in his heart.
Am I crazy?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
I don't think you're crazy, because these are definitive actions.
I mean what Congresswoman Luna did earlier in the day
referring Chairman Powell to the DOJ for perjury prosecutions. See,
these are definitive actions. This isn't another James Comer subcommittee,
just defeat talking points to people that do what you
and I to do for a living and get our
audiences all riled up, get all the clicks engagement, but
then nothing actually happens, and we feel like Scotti Scheffler
(38:36):
last week, vanity is vanity, All is vanity. Right, We're
now actually getting definitive actions. And so the Department of
Justice is going to decide whether or not Congresswoman Luna's
allegations against your own Powell are adequate or not. So
someone's going to get exposed here as a clown, either
Pam Bondi or Congresswoman Luma Luna. Same thing's going to
happen here on a much bigger for much bigger stakes
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where Barack Obama is concerned. And see this brings us
back to Pam bonding to me. This is she ought
to be relieved, she's getting these opportunities. This is a
chance for her to reignite and restart and reboot her
administration there at DOJ after the complete clown show that's
been the Epstream Epstein story since they gave people that
you and I both know, probably on a personal level,
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those binders have made complete clowns and fools out of them.
Now here's the thing, though, if she doesn't see it
that way, if she's tense, if she's nervous, then she
has to be replaced, all right. You cannot go after
a former president of the United States with a guy
at your bullpen with a forty seven er and his
last seven start, last seven appearances.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
All right.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
If you're going after a former president, then you bring
in the best arm out of the bullpen that you have.
And so what needs to happen right now at the
Trump administration is they need to surmise whether Pam Bondi
just got off to a terrible start and for whatever reason,
there's more to the Epstein story than they thought, and
now they're concerned about with the actual ramifications of letting
this out are going to be well, then fine, Then
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you need to figure out if she's up to the
task of going ou after a former president and then
also the most powerful unelected figure in America, the head
of the Federal Reserve. Those are high value targets, Jesse.
You do not bring somebody out of the bullpen to
close those cases out who just doesn't have the utmost
confidence and the team around them doesn't have confidence in
them either as well. So I think that's the big
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decision that needs to be made right now.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Do we have people I mean Bondi aside, although she's
important here, do we have people with the legal chops
to take on the thousand, two thousand dollars an hour lawyers?
These people are going to have Steve, you know as
well as I do. You get what you pay for,
and you most definitely get that when it comes to
the legal profession. These guys are going to bring an
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army of lawyers that are the best in the country.
Do we have something that can match that?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
See, this is an excellent question, and when that doesn't
get asked a lot. I think people don't really realize
that in general, in the legal profession, defense attorneys are
way better than prosecutors just simply because they're paid way
more and there's way more to an incentivization structure to
get into the defense attorney line of work. And so
to me, I think, you go out and maybe I'm
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not a huge fan of the guy myself, but you
and it doesn't necessarily have to beat him, but somebody
like him, and maybe you bring in somebody like Alan
Dershowitz and give him some kind of a special master
or consultants kind of role to help you think the
way that these kinds of seven figure defense attorneys think.
So you're one or two steps ahead of them. I
think one thing we've seen from Pam BONDI she's not
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one or two steps ahead of anything or anybody. And
the fact that James Comey's daughter was allowed to sit
there and lose a high profile case on her watch
six months after she took off its just blows my mind.
And then of course they got rid of her after
she ended up blowing the Diddy case there at the end. Again,
that just would never happen in a Democrat administration. They
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never sit there and say, well, I guess we got
to take this, you know, Republican operatives kin on because
we don't want to interrupt, you know, a legal continuity
here in the middle of such a high profile case.
They would say, that's exactly why we have to do it,
because we can't trust them to do the job. So again,
what you're really asking is the people that are on
our side. Are they cutthroat enough to do the gig?
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That's really what you're asking. And that's where I think again,
you get back to the do you have confidence in
Pambondi or not?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I don't know if I feel better or worse whatever.
Richie meets the Rainbow. By the way, is Steve's new book.
Make sure you go by it. Steve, my brother. As always,
I appreciate you. Come back. All right, we have a
humble light in the mood. Next, all right, it's time
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to lighten the mood. And I know that you know
that I tend to be more reserved, laid back even
and of course humble. And yesterday was my birthday. This
is not something I would ever mention on the air
because the last thing in the world I want to
(43:12):
do is draw attention to me when it's about everyone else,
it's not about me. I'm not a selfish, arrogant person,
but I will say the love you poured out on
me on my birthday, it really brought something home for me,
how important I am, how important I am to everybody.
And so as a little reward to you for my birthday,
(43:34):
I give you gifts on my birthday. You don't have
to give me anything. You can go subscribe to my
YouTube channel for free for free YouTube dot com slash
at Jesse Kelly DC giving that out for free. My
gift to you on my birthday is more me. I'll
see them all
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Jesse Kelly
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