July 18, 2025 • 45 mins
Jesse Kelly dives into the murky world of the Deep State, exploring the alleged network of unelected officials, intelligence operatives, and corporate elites accused of wielding unchecked power behind the scenes. This episode examines claims of surveillance, political manipulation, and global influence—while questioning what’s fact, what’s fiction, and what it means for America.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Okay, because the Epstein stuff is in the news. We
can't get away from it, we can't get out of
the news. I've elaborated my thoughts on it, but I
think we should talk again about the deep state or
the swamp or the blob or the system, or whatever
word you want to use for it. Obviously you know
generally what it is. I know generally what it is.
(00:29):
But I think it's helpful for you and I to
break it down and discuss the who, what, when, where,
and why what happened so on a very macro level
before we get to any specifics. Understand that this is
what happens to pretty much every single major country in history.
(00:49):
And when I say this, this is what I mean.
The government, whatever form of government it is, it could
be a monarchy, whatever form of government it is, it grows,
it grows. It is a lot of this is human nature.
You see, you me, We like having control, We like
(01:13):
having power. If we're being honest, I'm not saying you
have a lot or I have a lot. But whatever
kind of power we have.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We like to control, and we wouldn't mind more. Would
you like to get a little promotion at work? Be
in charge of a cup. Of course, human nature. Government
works the same way because government is made up of people,
flesh and blood, people just like you and me, and
people who work inside of government will, over a period
(01:43):
of time figure out how to acquire for themselves more power.
The problem with government power growing is they have at
least some authority over you and me. You know, if
you get power hungry, your job, your knife, and people
in the back to become assistant manager, that's bad. I'm
(02:04):
not cheering for you, but it doesn't affect me. That's
your problem and the people you work with. If the
government does, then we're all in trouble. So over a
long period of time, remember this didn't happen yesterday. Didn't
start under Biden. Even Obama, who made everything worse, didn't
start under him. Over a period of time, the government
(02:26):
figured out I want more power, I should have more power.
How do I get more power? They have the same
goals you have, promotion, more power, more influence, And over
years and years and years, our federal bureaucracies begin to
accumulate power. Everyone thinks FBI when I say that, and
(02:48):
that's definitely true, but it's not just them. Central Intelligence agency, IRS, EPA, AN,
you name it, on and on and on and on
and on. It goes education department. I may have said,
any education department. What picked your bureaucracy? It could be
a small one one that you don't think about. I've
ever heard of the people inside of it want more power.
(03:12):
But again, this brings me back to the point I
was making. If your power hungry, it doesn't affect me.
If the Central Intelligence Agency is power hungry, it does. Now.
Over that same period of time, as our federal bureaucracy
began to grow in size and strength, something else happened.
(03:34):
Other parts of our system are a system of government.
Other parts of our system began to be infected with
the exact same sick religion, and they figured out, Hey,
I realized, I'm a judge, I'm a US attorney, I'm
something like that. I realized that my role probably should
(03:57):
be to keep the FBI in check. You know, it's
not just the FBI to be a check on the
other parts. But what if we just work together instead.
I'll work with you.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I'll scratch your back, you scratch my back.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
We both gain more power and influence. And what it's
created is a very very corrupt criminal system where the
judges are in on it, the attorneys are in on it,
FBI's in on it's CIA's in on it. I mean,
look at this. I mean, for instance, the Epstein stuff's
in the news. You know who the lead prosecutor was
for the Epstein stuff. Comy's daughter, James Comy's daughter. You
(04:35):
probably we didn't talk a lot about it because I
don't do celebrity news here on the show. But you
know the Diddy stuff, that rapper Diddy who's on trial
for all these things. Guess who lucked out and got
that case. Comy's daughter, Marine is her name, but Comy's daughter,
which is man, what a tangled web that is being
(04:56):
as how, James Comy is the former very corrupt head
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and now regularly appears
on television saying things like this.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I know Republicans these days aren't big in thinking about
principle or precedent. They're going to be deeply sorry that
that disappears, because someday there will be a democratic president
and there'll be investigations of Republican officeholders. If I'm them,
I sure would want these career people in place, making
sure that it's done in the right way. Look, I've
(05:28):
long thought that you could shrink the size of some
of the Department of Justice headquarters units. But this is
like burning down the house and then standing in front
of the pile of ashes and saying, yeah, we really
did need to retile the guest bath.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
This is destroying the place at a cost that's going
to take years and years to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I know what you were screaming at the television set
as you heard James Comy so well, one day a
Democrat may investigate Republicans. I already know what you were saying.
It is the same thing I was saying. You people
just did that. You did that. I mean you remember
what John Durham said about call me in particular? Here
was John Durham, Mister Durham.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
The summer of twenty sixteen, did our government receive intelligence
that suggested Secretary Clinton had approved a plan to tie
President Trump to Russia?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Was that intelligence important enough for Director Brennan to go
brief the President of the United States, the Vice President
of the United States, the Attorney General of the United States,
and the director of the FBI. Yes, And was that
intelligence put then into a memorandum, a referral memorandum.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
And was that memorandum then given to Director Camy and
Agent Struck.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
That's who was addressed to you. Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Did he share with the agents on the case working
the Crossfire Hurricane case.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
No.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
We interviewed the first supervisor of the Crossfire investigation, the
operational person. We showed him the intelligence information.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He indicated he had never seen it before.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
He immediately became emotional, got up and left the room
with his lawyer, spent some time in the hallway, came back.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
He was ticked off, wasn't he? He was ticked off
because this is something he should have had as an
agent on the case. Is important information that the director
of the FBI kept from the people doing the investigation.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
The information was kept from him.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So I know what you're saying, James Comey's corrupt. James
Comy used his role as FBI director against Republicans. Why
would he go How could he go on TV and
say one day a Democrat might do this? Well, this
is the thing about the deep state, or the system
or whatever. It speaks with one voice, It pulls and
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pushes in one direction, and it believes it should the
only true enemy of the deep State. It's not China
or Russia, or despair, depression, economic collapses. The deep State
doesn't care any of those things. Anybody who may push
back against it is considered an enemy of it and
(08:08):
should be destroyed. You realize that people like James Comey,
Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Lisa Monico, Anita Donne. I mean,
take your pick, Christopher Ray. They genuinely believe, if you
could hook him up to a lot of detector test
that government should only work for Democrats, that things like
the FBI they should focus on going after Republicans. After all,
(08:31):
we're the deep state. We can't abide enemies in our
midst That's their mentality, and that's why they've operated the
way they've operated with you, with me, With Donald Trump,
I want to look back on something because it really
really shows how nefarious it was. You see, Democrats, they
(08:51):
came up with a message, a theme when it came
to Donald Trump. This goes way back to his first campaign.
Donald Trump works with Russia. Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin
their buddies. They're working together. Donald Trump is he's putin stooge.
Donald Trump's in Putin's pocket. It was a theme steady,
(09:11):
over and over and over again. Trump putin, Trump putin,
Trump putin very clearly a campaign label didn't really have
any basis in fact at all, But that didn't matter
at all. They were labeling their political opponent. Okay, that's
one thing. That's how politics go. Democrats are going to
lie about that stuff. Republicans will throw them out of
the other direction. I can deal with that. You can
deal with that. We're all grown ups here.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But when the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
when he starts talking that way, it may raise your eyebrows.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
The intelligence communities' consensus is that Russia continues to try
to influence our elections, primarily through what.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
We would call malign foreign influence.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
But we certainly have seen very active, very active efforts
by the Russians to influence our election in twenty twenty
through what I would call more than malign foreign influence
side of things, social media, use of proxies, state media,
online journals, et cetera, an effort to both sew divisiveness
(10:19):
and discord. And I think the intelligence community has assessed
this publicly to primarily to denigrate Vice President Biden.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's weird how the FBI they dug into it and
they found out all those Democrat talking points they're all true.
And while Christopher Ray was giving that testimony, he knew
that Russia wasn't a major player in any way. And
he also knew that China, China had hatched a scheme
(10:58):
to steal the twenty twenty election. Fake driver's licenses, not
one or two, lots and lots of them. They had
hatched a scheme to steal the twenty twenty election so
Donald Trump could get kicked out of the White House
and they could get notoriously Chinese tied Joe Biden into
the White House. China hatched to scheme. Now maybe you're
(11:21):
sitting there wondering, well, was it successful? I don't know,
And you know why, I don't know, because as soon
as the FBI's people in charge found out about this
alleged scheme, they shut down the investigation. You me will
(11:43):
never know about that pesky twenty twenty election. The FBI
refused to investigate it, all while lying to you about Russia.
It doesn't get more deep state than that. And before
we go and start talking to our amazing guests. We
have James O'Keefe, We have so many people here. Let's
(12:03):
not forget about maybe the most egregious abuse of FBI
power I can think of, and that's really saying a
lot for an evil organization. The Federal Bureau of Investigation
before the twenty twenty election, took possession of a laptop
Hunter Biden's laptop. They saw it, they knew the felonies,
the crimes that were on it. They buried it, tried
(12:24):
to hide it. They were just gonna let it go,
just like they did with that Chinese hacking stuff. But
they got out, they got word it was about to
get out, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation went to
social media companies and told them to censor the story
because it was those dirty Russians lying again. That alone
(12:45):
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Speaker 9 (14:35):
I've had the story for three years. I've had this
interview with Virginia Roberts. We would not put it on
the air. First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein?
No one knows who that is.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
This is a stupid story.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
She had pictures, she had everything. She was in hiding
for twelve years. We convinced her to come out. We
convinced her to talk to us. It was unbelievable what
we had Clinton, We had everything. I tried for three
years to get it on No Avail, and now it's
all coming out and it's like these new relevant revelations
and I freaking had all of it. I'm so pissed
(15:08):
right now, Like every day, I get more and more
pissed because I'm just like, oh my god, it was
what we had was unreal.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Wow, that's interesting to look back on, isn't it? Joining
me now? The Great James O'Keefe, founder of Project Veritas
and the O'Keefe Media Group, also his latest American Swipers series.
You can see that on Unified dot TV. James, Look,
I'm back on that video. It seems pretty appropriate now
for what we're looking at.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, I mean that was six years ago.
Speaker 10 (15:45):
A insider at ABC News leaked me on a hot
mic moment the lab of Amy Robot Good Morning America
anchor talking.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
About what she really thought.
Speaker 10 (15:55):
And you know, there's such a huge difference between what
these people say in private and in public, and now
we find ourselves in a whole other dynamic five six
years later.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I don't think it's going away, but a lot to
dive into here.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
What do we believe the deep State, whatever we want
to call it's CIA, FBI d og. What do we
believe their role in all this? Is it all looks bad?
I realize that, But I also don't want to toss
rumors to and fro. What do we believe their role
was with all this Epstein nonsense.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Well, you know, it's difficult for me as an investigative
reporter to tell you what I think versus what I know,
because I feel like if I tell you what I
don't know, that I'm kind of engaging in the same
type of false news propaganda that I condemn. But I
can tell you what I do know that there's an Affidavid.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Please do there's.
Speaker 10 (16:53):
An affidavit with a probable cause, they probably should unredact that.
I'm not asking them to release child porn or publish
anything of this nature, but certainly if there's names in there,
we need to remove as many reactions as possible.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
You know, I always talk about my case.
Speaker 10 (17:07):
I was rated by the FBI and they have a
probable cause section that's the justification for the warrant, and
I'm an American reporter, and the Biden Justice Department rated me,
and there's a huge section and every word is redacted.
So it's just the lack of transparency. And I tweeted
out this week, either there's no there there as Trump
(17:27):
is indicated, or the scandal is so big that it
implicates a lot of people and could bring down most
of the United States government. And these institutions are designed
to protect themselves, their self preserving. That's their only function.
And that's the problem with power, it's the problem with politics.
So I think one of the solutions is whistleblowers Like
(17:48):
you just saw. The tape you displayed was not provided
to you by the government. It was provided to you
by a whistleblower. Someone in the FBI was recorded a
week ago. I published that where they're saying it's a
quote show and they're not handling it correctly. I had
someone come to me with photographs from Epstein's island. No
one's ever seen this stuff before, inside of his bedroom,
his cell phones. There's names on the phone. You're trying
(18:09):
to tell me that, all the names on the phone,
none of those people did anything wrong, not.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Even an accessory after the fact. Nothing.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
It's very difficult to believe. So the people in the
government need to make this transparent. If they won't, then
people on the inside need to provide the information to
journalists and publish it without the government's consent.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Tell me about how the deep state works in a
quote buzzsaw way, that's your terminology.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
What are you talking about, Well, there's a book called
Into the Buzzsaw which I've read about how the media works.
But I think you mean to say, or maybe I
said that, they just break you, you know, kind of psychologically.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
If you are a truth teller, they'll ruin you.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
I mean FBI agent Garrett O'Boyle and Kyle Serafin, who
I interviewed, provided some internal documents from the FBI provided.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Them to me and they just ruined their life, particularly Garrett.
So there's that.
Speaker 10 (19:15):
But the deep state, generally speaking, is an unelected bureaucracy.
They stay within the organization regardless of who gets elected.
We've done a lot of investigative work. This American Swipers series,
which I'm on your show to talk about through Unified,
shows people at the CIA describing how they withheld information
(19:37):
from President Trump in President Trump's first term. That's against
the law. You can't do that. I'm jet vests rags
about it in episode one. It's not his decision to
withhold that information. But there's no way for us to
get this information through a four year request or to
learn about it through the New York Times. We must
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use this undercover video techniques to get the information. And
then in episode two, we're talking about Disney but what's
interesting about Disney, which that episode is out.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Today, by the way, I'm Unified TV.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
You can watch the full hour long piece goes behind
the scenes, sees how we do what we do, talkstore
undercover people, you meet the vice presidents of Disney, you
go behind the scenes. You know, corporations and government are
kind of in cahoots, and the deep state is real.
You see the faces of the deep state officials and
what you're watching, you see what they really think, and
(20:29):
you see how they're rebelling against the people that you elected,
which is Unamerican and unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
James, how deep are the connections because obviously I want
people to go watch this American Swiper series. You know
what fascinates me, probably more than the CIA one, is
the Disney one. How deep are the connections between big
corporate America and our government? Because every time I find
out something else new, I'm horrified by what this gangster
capitalist system we have here.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Right.
Speaker 10 (21:03):
It's you know, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power
crepts absolutely and Disney is an enormously powerful company and ununified.
Dot TV today you can watch the vice president of
Disney say that they he's talking about what he's witnessed
is the company doesn't want to hire white people.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
He said.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
This is the vice president Disney says, Bob Iger is corrupt.
This is what he's saying. And they're talking about the influence,
the pernicious influence within Disney. Now Disney fired him. They
sent me a cease and desist letter. So we talked
a little about that.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
But certainly there's an alliance between corporations and government, and
Disney is such a powerful organization that people are afraid
to do anything because of the repercussions and the retaliation
that people might be faced when they look into Disney.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, Unified dot TV American swiper. I highly recommend it, James,
thank you, brother, I appreciate it. Back soon. It's ugly,
extremely ugly, isn't it? CIA Corporation. That's the deep state.
We've been talking about, all of them now working together
for themselves and against you and against me. Let's talk
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to us. Senator Ron Johnson joins us I have questions
about that Trump assassination attempt, don't you. We'll be back.
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we've just recently passed an anniversary, a horrible anniversary in
the history of this country. I don't know that we've
fully digested yet what that day probably is going to
mean in a long run. But that anniversary was the
day that somebody shot Donald Trump, tried to blow his
head off, did kill Corey Comparator as he was guarding
his family. It's an ugly day and we don't know
(23:54):
much about it. Seems like we should know more. I'm
trying not to be impatient. I know law enforcement has
to do which job, but I would like to know more.
Joining me now, Senator Ron Johnson from the great State
of Wisconsin. Senator, to my understanding, you just recently asked
the FBI for some information, some records on this. What
are you asking for, well, Jesse, for what they know.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Let's just back up in terms of my involvement in
trying to get to the bond of these things. Literally,
the next day after the assassination, my investigatory staff, I
was then ranking member of the Permanent Subcommede investigation, just
started making phone calls to local law enforcement who were
very upfront with us. We learned an awful lot. We
published a very detailed timeline, and to this day we
(24:39):
pretty well described the failures of the Secret Service. We
described most of what went wrong. We've had some additional
details filled in. Then try to engage in a bipartisan
investigation so we could have a bipartisan conclusion. That was laborious.
By this time, though, the FBI other agencies had taken
over the investigation, and everybody clammed up. They stopped sharing information.
(25:03):
They certainly didn't share videos or body cams audios. I mean,
they just stopped sharing. When President Trump got elected, my
assumption was, and I guess it's always dangerous to assume that,
you know, he would put people in place in the
Department Justice, FPI who'd want to get to the bottom
of this, and they'd quickly do a thorough investigation and
(25:24):
reveal the results. All of a sudden, here we are
at the one year anniversary. We've been working on the
one big beautiful bill and a bunch of other things,
and all of a sudden, I realized we just haven't
found out much more. So, it's a friendly subpoena to
cash Pttel. I realized the challenges they've had, and let
me just quick describe that. You know, you've got a
(25:45):
bunch of attorneys, partisan attorneys from the Department Justice just
up and resigned that they couldn't possibly defend Donald Trump.
Donald Trump also laid off terminated partisan attorney. So there's
a big hole the Department of Justice, a bunch of
people that would be required to do investigations, be required to,
for example, provide documents to Congress as well. So I
(26:06):
sympathize with the challenge that President Trump and his appointees
have trying to get some measure of control over the
deep state. This is true throughout the agencies. You know,
I have a very friendly speed into to Bobby Kennedy HHS.
He's absolutely dedicated radical transparency. It's literally been months. We
literally yesterday just got a very large data dump. Hopefully
(26:28):
now he has gotten the bolt, taking the bull by
the horns and will release the information we need off
off of our supoen as well. But this is a
tough slog. It's not easy sledding. And again, I do
not blame President Trump. I do not blame his appointees.
I blame the deep state. It's very they do not
give up their secrets easily. Senator.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I know you already know this. I'm appreciated the choir here.
But when I hear that these agencies are clamming up
about something like Donald Trump almost getting his head blown off,
that looks really bad. And I realized there could be
a million explanations for that. Agencies famously compete with each other.
They don't want to talk, they don't want to talk
to senators, they don't want to talk to local I
(27:11):
realized all the rivalries. I understand that. But when people
when people think about the evils of our federal bureaucracy,
and then they find out they're not sharing information with
the US Senator about the attemptive assassination of the Republican nominee,
it looks bad, really bad.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
It is bad, and a lot of it the blame
has to do with Congress. Congress has allowed its constitutional
authority of oversight investigation to pretty well atrophy. We have
very weak enforcement mechanisms. I can issue a subpoena, try
and enforce it. You need pretty much byparts of support
to enforce a subpoena, or for sure unanimous support if
(27:50):
you have a majority. Otherwise you simply can't enforce it.
So you know, we try in our investigations try and
get people to voluntary cooperate. We threatened compulsory process, so
the last step is really subpoena. But with federal agencies
they have they have the experience that it's difficult for
(28:10):
us to really enforce those subpoenas, so they just give
us a middle finger, and it's just ingrained inside these agencies.
They look at any new administration, particularly a Republican one,
as this too shell pass. We can wait them out.
And again, it's a real challenge for President Trump trying
to defeat the deep state. I know he wants to
do it, this is not easy.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Senator, I'm going to focus on the Secret Service briefly here.
I'm not a Secret Service agent. I don't want to
pretend like I was. I was just a young dumb marine,
But even I would know you have to secure a
rooftop one hundred and forty eight meters from the head
of the guy you're supposed to be protecting. That didn't
happen that day the supervisors got promoted, They found a
couple of lackeys and suspended him for ten days. Is
(28:57):
a secret Service what it used to be. That doesn't
sound like a top two organization. That sounds like yet
another corrupt government institution covering for itself.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
First of all, I think most of the agents are
highly dedicated. I know the protectees love the people that
are protecting them. They truly appreciate what they're trying to do.
But no, I think the Biden administration throughout government engaged
in DEI I think that undercut the quality of the
type of work we got out of these agencies, and
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that includes a secret Service. So I think what you
saw Butler was just gross incompetence. But it's from leadership.
It wasn't from the agents on the ground who immediately
surrounded Presdent Trump, who're willing to sacrifice their lives. So again,
I think that's also an issue with President Trump. I mean,
he trust me, he loves the agents who are willing
to sacrifice their lives, who demonstrate that they were willing
(29:48):
to do so. And so it's kind of tough to
really start attacking the Secret Service, but it shouldn't be
very tough to attack those who are certainly discipline, those
hold those accountable. That really produced such a just a
jaw droppingly horrible result in Butler, Pennsylvania. It was just
(30:10):
completely unacceptable. There's there's no there's no ration ration out
for You could literally take a grade school kid, put
him on mass change and go, hey, what are the vulnerabilities?
You know what, what should we really protect? Anybody would
have could have How about those rooftops over there. We
ought to have somebody watching that. We ought to be
guarding those pretty carefully. They didn't do that. So again,
(30:33):
just gross incompetence.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Senator shifting gears a little bit. There's been a lot
of rumbles, there's investigations. Brendan Clapper, these these people, and
that's fine, that's wonderful. I love that. If these people
have committed crimes, I hope they should go down. But
is that a possible thing either. I don't want to
sell false hope to people. If someone committed a crime
as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, that's basically the
(30:59):
worst thing in the world, and you should go to
prison for the rest of your life. But that's never
how it goes. What are we going to get out
of this?
Speaker 7 (31:05):
So first of all, I think people like John Brennan,
James Comy, I think they are criminals. I thought that
for a number of years. I respect to John Durham,
I thought you did a pretty thorough investigation, uncovered an
awful lot of things. But you know what was always
the word on John Durham is he's only going to
indict if he knows he can convict. The problem is
he was operating within the DC venue. Knight sent plus
(31:27):
of the jury pool voted heavily for Democrats, dedicated Democrat voters,
and he just never felt he could get a conviction.
I think the difference with this conspiracy case. Could you
can move the venue, possibly down to Florida, where you
might actually have a more unbiased jury pool, and you
might actually get a conviction. So again, I hope they
(31:50):
really do pursue this. I think these people should be
indicted I think they certainly should being convicted and they
should pay a price. At a minimum we have is them.
That's the first, from my standpoint, first step in accountability.
I don't know how anybody could ever possibly extend to
security clearance or employ people like John Brennan and James Coomy.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Finally, what are you doing for the vaccine injured? I
know this is something and I appreciate this very much
about you that you are passionate, passionate about There were
people who were harmed. That's not arguable now. They were
all told to shut up and we're just everyone take it.
Who cares if you have a stroke. But that's not
fair to people who were forced, coerced into taking something
that did them great harm. What are we doing with
(32:39):
these people?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
First of all, I'm giving them a platform to tell
their stories. They've never been offered that. In our first
hearing where we had doctor Joel Wallscock, who's injured by
the COVID injection, I asked him, what is the feeling
of your group, you know, rack nineteen people other injured individuals.
He said, abandoned that they're just completely abandoned. There are
(33:02):
parts of vaccine trials these aren't anti vaxxors. Anybody who's
vaccine injured is not an anti vaxxer. But they were injured,
and the medical establishment, federal health agencies, the news media
completely cover it up. It's got to be such a
lonely feeling. And of course the stories we were heard in
testimony on Tuesday, they're absolutely heartbreaking. You know, I got to,
(33:25):
you know, bring in and read these testimonies beforehand. I
reached out to the witnesses and I apologized for even
having asking him to tell their stories. There's just so heartbreaking.
I cannot believe that there was one article written before
the MSNBC reporter even showed up to the hearing, grotesquely unbiased.
(33:45):
You're just accusing everybody misinformation. There was no misinformation.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
You know.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
We had a couple Democrat witnesses that told their stories
of their family and members who died of severe cases
of flu in the hearing. Those intos we're hugging the
vaccine injured again, this is reality. We just need the truth.
What I am trying to do is I'm trying to
(34:10):
bring forth the truth. There's been so much cover up
of vaccine injuries. There's been so much denial. We get
we need to get to the bottom of this, and
patients parents need informed consent. They're not going to get
informed consent when all you have is a propaganda that
vaccines are safe and effective. Well some of them. Maybe
(34:32):
some of them may have eradicated diseases, others may not have.
We need the full story. Well, we do know that
not one vaccine on the childhood schedule was ever tested
against a true sailine placebo. As much as Fauci lied
about that, he could never produce the documents. They never
have been. There had been documents that had been destroyed.
(34:53):
Again right now, just trying to you know, get documents
out of HHS versus my supena has been like pulling teeth.
Hopefully that that logjam has been broken now by RFK Jr.
But listen, we are a long way from having informed consent,
from having people really understand the cost versus the benefit
(35:16):
of mass vaccination, you know, eight eighty injections without really
contemplating every time you inject somebody of the vaccine, you're
impacting somebody's immune system. You start injecting somebody with six
vaccines at the same time, Gee, what could go wrong?
You're injecting them. When you had these adjuvants like aluminum
(35:39):
that never leave the body that you know aluminum's toxic
to the body. You know the spike protein was toxic
to the body. The injection turned your cells into a
manufacturing site for something that is toxic to the body.
So when those cells express that spike protein, the body
attack that. That's called inflammation, that's myocarditis, that's the neuro
(36:00):
neurological symptoms. Again, I'm not a doctor, not a layman.
It's very easy to understand in layman's terms the potential dangers.
We're just not able to discuss it. Are fed of
Health Agency's lied bold face to us. Just one example,
the covid injection was gonna stay in your arm. They
knew it wouldn't. They had studies that showed bi distributed
(36:20):
all over the body. They encapsulated an o lipid nanoparticle
that it was designed to permeate difficult to permeate barriers
like the blood brain. It was going to leave the muscle.
They knew it, and they lied to us. Why did
they lie to us?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Senator, thank you for being on it, Thank you for everything.
I appreciate you all right, Emma Joe Morris, the Deep
State came after her? What was that? Like? What happened?
Let's talk to her next. All right, let's talk about freshness,
because that's kind of a big deal. Well, at least
sometimes we think it's a big deal. Sometimes we take
(36:57):
that seriously. If you're out buying apples and oranges, you
want fresh ones, right, You care about fresh bread of course,
fresh meat, of course, then why don't we take that
same level of seriousness when it comes to olive oil.
We put olive oil in virtually everything we cook with it.
It's good for you. But we go grab a bottle
(37:19):
off the grocery shelf and it's old, months old, year old.
Stop doing that. Let me tell you about something farm
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You want to know if there's a difference in taste, Well,
(37:41):
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six dot com and taste the difference.
Speaker 11 (38:04):
Take on the intelligence community. They have six ways from
Sunday at getting back at you. So even for a practical,
supposedly hard nos businessman, he's being really dumb.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
To do this.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
What do you think the intelligence community would do if they.
Speaker 11 (38:17):
Were I don't know, but I from what I am told,
they are very upset with how he has treated them
and talked about.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I know you've seen that before, You've seen that on
this show, but it really is one of the more
jaw dropping admissions I've ever seen in my entire life.
Frightening when you think about the implications of it. I
think we should probably talk to Emma Joe for a moment.
Joining me now, Emma Joe Morris, in case you're wondering, Hey,
where did all this Hunter Biden laptop stuff come from? Well,
(38:47):
she is the reporter who broke the story. Also, she's
the co host of Group Chat on two Way. Okay,
Emma Joe, this whole deep state stuff, deep state coming
after normal people, that's not a real.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Thing, right, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 12 (39:05):
Except me. No, I mean, I'm honestly I think that
I'm among the victims of the deep state. I'm the
one that's been really just lightly grazed. You have others
who have been harassed, bankrupted, sent to jail in some
cases over making a mountain out of a molehill because
(39:26):
they decided that they didn't like you or what you
were doing, or what you were standing for or what
you are presented or whatever. But yeah, that clip from
Chuck Schumer is just blood curdling. And we learned that.
I mean I learned that in a pretty shocking I think,
in brazen way, obviously to recap for the audience for
(39:47):
anyone who isn't familiar with my story or me maybe,
but they are familiar with the story. I'm sure. I
wrote the Hunter Biden laptop story at The Post in
October of twenty twenty. I was a deputy politics editor
at the Post. Yeah, I mean that was one hundred
percent legit. That journalism was obviously one hundred percent true.
It was airtight, and.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
We knew it was.
Speaker 12 (40:09):
We had called the people in the laptop who were
involved in the emails that we were reporting on.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
They had confirmed it.
Speaker 12 (40:18):
We knew without a doubt that at least what we
were publishing was correct, and we didn't make any illusions
about the material. We just literally published exactly what was
on the laptop, exactly what we had seen in the inbox.
We did not retract one comma amid all that scrutiny,
and still not one comma has been corrected. Not only that,
(40:39):
but the reporting has been vindicated from multiple places, and
the Security State basically just decided that they didn't like
the story and just eliminated it from public view in
a really brazen way. Obviously, there have been multiple congressional
hearings on this, there have been investigations on this, whistleblowers
have come forward on this, and I think what the
(41:01):
most shocking part of the story was to this day,
of everything that's come out about it, to me, the
most outrageous part was how the Security State had really
co opted social media companies.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
They like. We found out, you know, over the course
of that story.
Speaker 12 (41:21):
Unfolding, that they had basically staffed up Facebook and Twitter
to the extent that at Twitter at least there was
a bu which sounds for bureau slack channel for all
the former FBI agents who now were working at Twitter.
Not to mention Jim Baker obviously, who was a central
(41:43):
character in the Russia hoax and was a notorious deep stater,
and he was Twitter's chief leading counsel like that is outrageous.
So imagine that the FBI is approaching Twitter to talk
about quote unquote disinformation and how to prevent the proliferation
of disinformation. The FBI comes to Twitter. If your Twitter,
(42:04):
what do you do immediately when you're approached by the FBI?
You call your lawyer. In this case, they call their lawyer,
and their lawyer is.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
The FBI too.
Speaker 12 (42:12):
Think about how ominous that is. It's chilling actually to say,
and to this day it freaks me out. And there's
been no real change that I've heard that's been recorded
of this dynamic. Facebook has the exact meta because the
exact same dynamic. Mark Zuckerberg said that outright on Joe
(42:32):
Rogan's podcast, And this has never been addressed, you know,
And I testify to Congress in I think it was
twenty twenty three, the summer of twenty twenty three, and
my main message was like, how is this being corrected?
This must be corrected, Like I don't know where the
(42:55):
First Amendment starts and stops. What about my First Amendment
and the right to not be censored by spot And
that just seems to have come and gone with that
Congress and never picked up again. And if there's one
thing I think that's really positive about this Epstein saga,
and this is really trying to find a silver lining,
is that we are revisiting this conversation and revisiting the
(43:18):
question of how much censorship is appropriate from people in
the FBI, in the CIA, in that big security state network.
How much is it appropriate for them to weigh in
on what the American people are allowed to see and read.
I don't know the answer to that question, but as
far as I'm concerned, this has never been addressed.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Well, it hasn't ever been addressed. Emma, just really quickly,
I've only got about thirty seconds here. Do you think
Republicans have what it takes to address it? I know
it will take time, but this has to stop or
we don't have a free country.
Speaker 12 (43:57):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree. Listen, there are a
lot of issues I know that are very important and
that have to be done in limited time in Trump's administration.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
In this Congress.
Speaker 12 (44:06):
You know, obviously immigration is probably the top that's the
top issue people voted for. However, exactly what you said,
it's like, and this is I agree with you. It's
this really hits to the foundation of what it means
to be an American and what our rights are and
where the government like is kind of acting illegally, which
I think that they really went up to that line
(44:28):
in this and are have you seen the Republicans really
take anything seriously for that matter? I mean, I don't know.
I don't have a lot of hope. And it's bad
because it's a pretty central right.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
You're not wrong, Emma, Joe. You're welcome anytime. Thank you, ma'am.
All right, vital thoughts. Thanks. I know it seems ominous
(45:04):
taking on the deep state, taking apart, taking down the
deep state, but we can. It's just going to take time.
It took time for them to build it. It will
take time for us to attack it and take it down.
Let's stay focused. We do not need to be ruled
by unelected bureaucrats ever. All right, We'll do it again.
Okay, because the Epstein stuff is in the news. We
can't get away from it, we can't get out of
the news. I've elaborated my thoughts on it, but I
think we should talk again about the deep state or
the swamp or the blob or the system, or whatever
word you want to use for it. Obviously you know
generally what it is. I know generally what it is.
(00:29):
But I think it's helpful for you and I to
break it down and discuss the who, what, when, where,
and why what happened so on a very macro level
before we get to any specifics. Understand that this is
what happens to pretty much every single major country in history.
(00:49):
And when I say this, this is what I mean.
The government, whatever form of government it is, it could
be a monarchy, whatever form of government it is, it grows,
it grows. It is a lot of this is human nature.
You see, you me, We like having control, We like
(01:13):
having power. If we're being honest, I'm not saying you
have a lot or I have a lot. But whatever
kind of power we have.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We like to control, and we wouldn't mind more. Would
you like to get a little promotion at work? Be
in charge of a cup. Of course, human nature. Government
works the same way because government is made up of people,
flesh and blood, people just like you and me, and
people who work inside of government will, over a period
(01:43):
of time figure out how to acquire for themselves more power.
The problem with government power growing is they have at
least some authority over you and me. You know, if
you get power hungry, your job, your knife, and people
in the back to become assistant manager, that's bad. I'm
(02:04):
not cheering for you, but it doesn't affect me. That's
your problem and the people you work with. If the
government does, then we're all in trouble. So over a
long period of time, remember this didn't happen yesterday. Didn't
start under Biden. Even Obama, who made everything worse, didn't
start under him. Over a period of time, the government
(02:26):
figured out I want more power, I should have more power.
How do I get more power? They have the same
goals you have, promotion, more power, more influence, And over
years and years and years, our federal bureaucracies begin to
accumulate power. Everyone thinks FBI when I say that, and
(02:48):
that's definitely true, but it's not just them. Central Intelligence agency, IRS, EPA, AN,
you name it, on and on and on and on
and on. It goes education department. I may have said,
any education department. What picked your bureaucracy? It could be
a small one one that you don't think about. I've
ever heard of the people inside of it want more power.
(03:12):
But again, this brings me back to the point I
was making. If your power hungry, it doesn't affect me.
If the Central Intelligence Agency is power hungry, it does. Now.
Over that same period of time, as our federal bureaucracy
began to grow in size and strength, something else happened.
(03:34):
Other parts of our system are a system of government.
Other parts of our system began to be infected with
the exact same sick religion, and they figured out, Hey,
I realized, I'm a judge, I'm a US attorney, I'm
something like that. I realized that my role probably should
(03:57):
be to keep the FBI in check. You know, it's
not just the FBI to be a check on the
other parts. But what if we just work together instead.
I'll work with you.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I'll scratch your back, you scratch my back.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
We both gain more power and influence. And what it's
created is a very very corrupt criminal system where the
judges are in on it, the attorneys are in on it,
FBI's in on it's CIA's in on it. I mean,
look at this. I mean, for instance, the Epstein stuff's
in the news. You know who the lead prosecutor was
for the Epstein stuff. Comy's daughter, James Comy's daughter. You
(04:35):
probably we didn't talk a lot about it because I
don't do celebrity news here on the show. But you
know the Diddy stuff, that rapper Diddy who's on trial
for all these things. Guess who lucked out and got
that case. Comy's daughter, Marine is her name, but Comy's daughter,
which is man, what a tangled web that is being
(04:56):
as how, James Comy is the former very corrupt head
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and now regularly appears
on television saying things like this.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I know Republicans these days aren't big in thinking about
principle or precedent. They're going to be deeply sorry that
that disappears, because someday there will be a democratic president
and there'll be investigations of Republican officeholders. If I'm them,
I sure would want these career people in place, making
sure that it's done in the right way. Look, I've
(05:28):
long thought that you could shrink the size of some
of the Department of Justice headquarters units. But this is
like burning down the house and then standing in front
of the pile of ashes and saying, yeah, we really
did need to retile the guest bath.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
This is destroying the place at a cost that's going
to take years and years to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I know what you were screaming at the television set
as you heard James Comy so well, one day a
Democrat may investigate Republicans. I already know what you were saying.
It is the same thing I was saying. You people
just did that. You did that. I mean you remember
what John Durham said about call me in particular? Here
was John Durham, Mister Durham.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
The summer of twenty sixteen, did our government receive intelligence
that suggested Secretary Clinton had approved a plan to tie
President Trump to Russia?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Was that intelligence important enough for Director Brennan to go
brief the President of the United States, the Vice President
of the United States, the Attorney General of the United States,
and the director of the FBI. Yes, And was that
intelligence put then into a memorandum, a referral memorandum.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
And was that memorandum then given to Director Camy and
Agent Struck.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
That's who was addressed to you. Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Did he share with the agents on the case working
the Crossfire Hurricane case.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
No.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
We interviewed the first supervisor of the Crossfire investigation, the
operational person. We showed him the intelligence information.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He indicated he had never seen it before.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
He immediately became emotional, got up and left the room
with his lawyer, spent some time in the hallway, came back.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
He was ticked off, wasn't he? He was ticked off
because this is something he should have had as an
agent on the case. Is important information that the director
of the FBI kept from the people doing the investigation.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
The information was kept from him.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So I know what you're saying, James Comey's corrupt. James
Comy used his role as FBI director against Republicans. Why
would he go How could he go on TV and
say one day a Democrat might do this? Well, this
is the thing about the deep state, or the system
or whatever. It speaks with one voice, It pulls and
(07:45):
pushes in one direction, and it believes it should the
only true enemy of the deep State. It's not China
or Russia, or despair, depression, economic collapses. The deep State
doesn't care any of those things. Anybody who may push
back against it is considered an enemy of it and
(08:08):
should be destroyed. You realize that people like James Comey,
Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Lisa Monico, Anita Donne. I mean,
take your pick, Christopher Ray. They genuinely believe, if you
could hook him up to a lot of detector test
that government should only work for Democrats, that things like
the FBI they should focus on going after Republicans. After all,
(08:31):
we're the deep state. We can't abide enemies in our
midst That's their mentality, and that's why they've operated the
way they've operated with you, with me, With Donald Trump,
I want to look back on something because it really
really shows how nefarious it was. You see, Democrats, they
(08:51):
came up with a message, a theme when it came
to Donald Trump. This goes way back to his first campaign.
Donald Trump works with Russia. Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin
their buddies. They're working together. Donald Trump is he's putin stooge.
Donald Trump's in Putin's pocket. It was a theme steady,
(09:11):
over and over and over again. Trump putin, Trump putin,
Trump putin very clearly a campaign label didn't really have
any basis in fact at all, But that didn't matter
at all. They were labeling their political opponent. Okay, that's
one thing. That's how politics go. Democrats are going to
lie about that stuff. Republicans will throw them out of
the other direction. I can deal with that. You can
deal with that. We're all grown ups here.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But when the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
when he starts talking that way, it may raise your eyebrows.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
The intelligence communities' consensus is that Russia continues to try
to influence our elections, primarily through what.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
We would call malign foreign influence.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
But we certainly have seen very active, very active efforts
by the Russians to influence our election in twenty twenty
through what I would call more than malign foreign influence
side of things, social media, use of proxies, state media,
online journals, et cetera, an effort to both sew divisiveness
(10:19):
and discord. And I think the intelligence community has assessed
this publicly to primarily to denigrate Vice President Biden.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's weird how the FBI they dug into it and
they found out all those Democrat talking points they're all true.
And while Christopher Ray was giving that testimony, he knew
that Russia wasn't a major player in any way. And
he also knew that China, China had hatched a scheme
(10:58):
to steal the twenty twenty election. Fake driver's licenses, not
one or two, lots and lots of them. They had
hatched a scheme to steal the twenty twenty election so
Donald Trump could get kicked out of the White House
and they could get notoriously Chinese tied Joe Biden into
the White House. China hatched to scheme. Now maybe you're
(11:21):
sitting there wondering, well, was it successful? I don't know,
And you know why, I don't know, because as soon
as the FBI's people in charge found out about this
alleged scheme, they shut down the investigation. You me will
(11:43):
never know about that pesky twenty twenty election. The FBI
refused to investigate it, all while lying to you about Russia.
It doesn't get more deep state than that. And before
we go and start talking to our amazing guests. We
have James O'Keefe, We have so many people here. Let's
(12:03):
not forget about maybe the most egregious abuse of FBI
power I can think of, and that's really saying a
lot for an evil organization. The Federal Bureau of Investigation
before the twenty twenty election, took possession of a laptop
Hunter Biden's laptop. They saw it, they knew the felonies,
the crimes that were on it. They buried it, tried
(12:24):
to hide it. They were just gonna let it go,
just like they did with that Chinese hacking stuff. But
they got out, they got word it was about to
get out, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation went to
social media companies and told them to censor the story
because it was those dirty Russians lying again. That alone
(12:45):
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Speaker 9 (14:35):
I've had the story for three years. I've had this
interview with Virginia Roberts. We would not put it on
the air. First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein?
No one knows who that is.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
This is a stupid story.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
She had pictures, she had everything. She was in hiding
for twelve years. We convinced her to come out. We
convinced her to talk to us. It was unbelievable what
we had Clinton, We had everything. I tried for three
years to get it on No Avail, and now it's
all coming out and it's like these new relevant revelations
and I freaking had all of it. I'm so pissed
(15:08):
right now, Like every day, I get more and more
pissed because I'm just like, oh my god, it was
what we had was unreal.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Wow, that's interesting to look back on, isn't it? Joining
me now? The Great James O'Keefe, founder of Project Veritas
and the O'Keefe Media Group, also his latest American Swipers series.
You can see that on Unified dot TV. James, Look,
I'm back on that video. It seems pretty appropriate now
for what we're looking at.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, I mean that was six years ago.
Speaker 10 (15:45):
A insider at ABC News leaked me on a hot
mic moment the lab of Amy Robot Good Morning America
anchor talking.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
About what she really thought.
Speaker 10 (15:55):
And you know, there's such a huge difference between what
these people say in private and in public, and now
we find ourselves in a whole other dynamic five six
years later.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I don't think it's going away, but a lot to
dive into here.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
What do we believe the deep State, whatever we want
to call it's CIA, FBI d og. What do we
believe their role in all this? Is it all looks bad?
I realize that, But I also don't want to toss
rumors to and fro. What do we believe their role
was with all this Epstein nonsense.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Well, you know, it's difficult for me as an investigative
reporter to tell you what I think versus what I know,
because I feel like if I tell you what I
don't know, that I'm kind of engaging in the same
type of false news propaganda that I condemn. But I
can tell you what I do know that there's an Affidavid.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Please do there's.
Speaker 10 (16:53):
An affidavit with a probable cause, they probably should unredact that.
I'm not asking them to release child porn or publish
anything of this nature, but certainly if there's names in there,
we need to remove as many reactions as possible.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
You know, I always talk about my case.
Speaker 10 (17:07):
I was rated by the FBI and they have a
probable cause section that's the justification for the warrant, and
I'm an American reporter, and the Biden Justice Department rated me,
and there's a huge section and every word is redacted.
So it's just the lack of transparency. And I tweeted
out this week, either there's no there there as Trump
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is indicated, or the scandal is so big that it
implicates a lot of people and could bring down most
of the United States government. And these institutions are designed
to protect themselves, their self preserving. That's their only function.
And that's the problem with power, it's the problem with politics.
So I think one of the solutions is whistleblowers Like
(17:48):
you just saw. The tape you displayed was not provided
to you by the government. It was provided to you
by a whistleblower. Someone in the FBI was recorded a
week ago. I published that where they're saying it's a
quote show and they're not handling it correctly. I had
someone come to me with photographs from Epstein's island. No
one's ever seen this stuff before, inside of his bedroom,
his cell phones. There's names on the phone. You're trying
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to tell me that, all the names on the phone,
none of those people did anything wrong, not.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Even an accessory after the fact. Nothing.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
It's very difficult to believe. So the people in the
government need to make this transparent. If they won't, then
people on the inside need to provide the information to
journalists and publish it without the government's consent.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Tell me about how the deep state works in a
quote buzzsaw way, that's your terminology.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
What are you talking about, Well, there's a book called
Into the Buzzsaw which I've read about how the media works.
But I think you mean to say, or maybe I
said that, they just break you, you know, kind of psychologically.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
If you are a truth teller, they'll ruin you.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
I mean FBI agent Garrett O'Boyle and Kyle Serafin, who
I interviewed, provided some internal documents from the FBI provided.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Them to me and they just ruined their life, particularly Garrett.
So there's that.
Speaker 10 (19:15):
But the deep state, generally speaking, is an unelected bureaucracy.
They stay within the organization regardless of who gets elected.
We've done a lot of investigative work. This American Swipers series,
which I'm on your show to talk about through Unified,
shows people at the CIA describing how they withheld information
(19:37):
from President Trump in President Trump's first term. That's against
the law. You can't do that. I'm jet vests rags
about it in episode one. It's not his decision to
withhold that information. But there's no way for us to
get this information through a four year request or to
learn about it through the New York Times. We must
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use this undercover video techniques to get the information. And
then in episode two, we're talking about Disney but what's
interesting about Disney, which that episode is out.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Today, by the way, I'm Unified TV.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
You can watch the full hour long piece goes behind
the scenes, sees how we do what we do, talkstore
undercover people, you meet the vice presidents of Disney, you
go behind the scenes. You know, corporations and government are
kind of in cahoots, and the deep state is real.
You see the faces of the deep state officials and
what you're watching, you see what they really think, and
(20:29):
you see how they're rebelling against the people that you elected,
which is Unamerican and unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
James, how deep are the connections because obviously I want
people to go watch this American Swiper series. You know
what fascinates me, probably more than the CIA one, is
the Disney one. How deep are the connections between big
corporate America and our government? Because every time I find
out something else new, I'm horrified by what this gangster
capitalist system we have here.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Right.
Speaker 10 (21:03):
It's you know, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power
crepts absolutely and Disney is an enormously powerful company and ununified.
Dot TV today you can watch the vice president of
Disney say that they he's talking about what he's witnessed
is the company doesn't want to hire white people.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
He said.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
This is the vice president Disney says, Bob Iger is corrupt.
This is what he's saying. And they're talking about the influence,
the pernicious influence within Disney. Now Disney fired him. They
sent me a cease and desist letter. So we talked
a little about that.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
But certainly there's an alliance between corporations and government, and
Disney is such a powerful organization that people are afraid
to do anything because of the repercussions and the retaliation
that people might be faced when they look into Disney.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, Unified dot TV American swiper. I highly recommend it, James,
thank you, brother, I appreciate it. Back soon. It's ugly,
extremely ugly, isn't it? CIA Corporation. That's the deep state.
We've been talking about, all of them now working together
for themselves and against you and against me. Let's talk
(22:16):
to us. Senator Ron Johnson joins us I have questions
about that Trump assassination attempt, don't you. We'll be back.
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we've just recently passed an anniversary, a horrible anniversary in
the history of this country. I don't know that we've
fully digested yet what that day probably is going to
mean in a long run. But that anniversary was the
day that somebody shot Donald Trump, tried to blow his
head off, did kill Corey Comparator as he was guarding
his family. It's an ugly day and we don't know
(23:54):
much about it. Seems like we should know more. I'm
trying not to be impatient. I know law enforcement has
to do which job, but I would like to know more.
Joining me now, Senator Ron Johnson from the great State
of Wisconsin. Senator, to my understanding, you just recently asked
the FBI for some information, some records on this. What
are you asking for, well, Jesse, for what they know.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Let's just back up in terms of my involvement in
trying to get to the bond of these things. Literally,
the next day after the assassination, my investigatory staff, I
was then ranking member of the Permanent Subcommede investigation, just
started making phone calls to local law enforcement who were
very upfront with us. We learned an awful lot. We
published a very detailed timeline, and to this day we
(24:39):
pretty well described the failures of the Secret Service. We
described most of what went wrong. We've had some additional
details filled in. Then try to engage in a bipartisan
investigation so we could have a bipartisan conclusion. That was laborious.
By this time, though, the FBI other agencies had taken
over the investigation, and everybody clammed up. They stopped sharing information.
(25:03):
They certainly didn't share videos or body cams audios. I mean,
they just stopped sharing. When President Trump got elected, my
assumption was, and I guess it's always dangerous to assume that,
you know, he would put people in place in the
Department Justice, FPI who'd want to get to the bottom
of this, and they'd quickly do a thorough investigation and
(25:24):
reveal the results. All of a sudden, here we are
at the one year anniversary. We've been working on the
one big beautiful bill and a bunch of other things,
and all of a sudden, I realized we just haven't
found out much more. So, it's a friendly subpoena to
cash Pttel. I realized the challenges they've had, and let
me just quick describe that. You know, you've got a
(25:45):
bunch of attorneys, partisan attorneys from the Department Justice just
up and resigned that they couldn't possibly defend Donald Trump.
Donald Trump also laid off terminated partisan attorney. So there's
a big hole the Department of Justice, a bunch of
people that would be required to do investigations, be required to,
for example, provide documents to Congress as well. So I
(26:06):
sympathize with the challenge that President Trump and his appointees
have trying to get some measure of control over the
deep state. This is true throughout the agencies. You know,
I have a very friendly speed into to Bobby Kennedy HHS.
He's absolutely dedicated radical transparency. It's literally been months. We
literally yesterday just got a very large data dump. Hopefully
(26:28):
now he has gotten the bolt, taking the bull by
the horns and will release the information we need off
off of our supoen as well. But this is a
tough slog. It's not easy sledding. And again, I do
not blame President Trump. I do not blame his appointees.
I blame the deep state. It's very they do not
give up their secrets easily. Senator.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I know you already know this. I'm appreciated the choir here.
But when I hear that these agencies are clamming up
about something like Donald Trump almost getting his head blown off,
that looks really bad. And I realized there could be
a million explanations for that. Agencies famously compete with each other.
They don't want to talk, they don't want to talk
to senators, they don't want to talk to local I
(27:11):
realized all the rivalries. I understand that. But when people
when people think about the evils of our federal bureaucracy,
and then they find out they're not sharing information with
the US Senator about the attemptive assassination of the Republican nominee,
it looks bad, really bad.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
It is bad, and a lot of it the blame
has to do with Congress. Congress has allowed its constitutional
authority of oversight investigation to pretty well atrophy. We have
very weak enforcement mechanisms. I can issue a subpoena, try
and enforce it. You need pretty much byparts of support
to enforce a subpoena, or for sure unanimous support if
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you have a majority. Otherwise you simply can't enforce it.
So you know, we try in our investigations try and
get people to voluntary cooperate. We threatened compulsory process, so
the last step is really subpoena. But with federal agencies
they have they have the experience that it's difficult for
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us to really enforce those subpoenas, so they just give
us a middle finger, and it's just ingrained inside these agencies.
They look at any new administration, particularly a Republican one,
as this too shell pass. We can wait them out.
And again, it's a real challenge for President Trump trying
to defeat the deep state. I know he wants to
do it, this is not easy.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Senator, I'm going to focus on the Secret Service briefly here.
I'm not a Secret Service agent. I don't want to
pretend like I was. I was just a young dumb marine,
But even I would know you have to secure a
rooftop one hundred and forty eight meters from the head
of the guy you're supposed to be protecting. That didn't
happen that day the supervisors got promoted, They found a
couple of lackeys and suspended him for ten days. Is
(28:57):
a secret Service what it used to be. That doesn't
sound like a top two organization. That sounds like yet
another corrupt government institution covering for itself.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
First of all, I think most of the agents are
highly dedicated. I know the protectees love the people that
are protecting them. They truly appreciate what they're trying to do.
But no, I think the Biden administration throughout government engaged
in DEI I think that undercut the quality of the
type of work we got out of these agencies, and
(29:26):
that includes a secret Service. So I think what you
saw Butler was just gross incompetence. But it's from leadership.
It wasn't from the agents on the ground who immediately
surrounded Presdent Trump, who're willing to sacrifice their lives. So again,
I think that's also an issue with President Trump. I mean,
he trust me, he loves the agents who are willing
to sacrifice their lives, who demonstrate that they were willing
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to do so. And so it's kind of tough to
really start attacking the Secret Service, but it shouldn't be
very tough to attack those who are certainly discipline, those
hold those accountable. That really produced such a just a
jaw droppingly horrible result in Butler, Pennsylvania. It was just
(30:10):
completely unacceptable. There's there's no there's no ration ration out
for You could literally take a grade school kid, put
him on mass change and go, hey, what are the vulnerabilities?
You know what, what should we really protect? Anybody would
have could have How about those rooftops over there. We
ought to have somebody watching that. We ought to be
guarding those pretty carefully. They didn't do that. So again,
(30:33):
just gross incompetence.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Senator shifting gears a little bit. There's been a lot
of rumbles, there's investigations. Brendan Clapper, these these people, and
that's fine, that's wonderful. I love that. If these people
have committed crimes, I hope they should go down. But
is that a possible thing either. I don't want to
sell false hope to people. If someone committed a crime
as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, that's basically the
(30:59):
worst thing in the world, and you should go to
prison for the rest of your life. But that's never
how it goes. What are we going to get out
of this?
Speaker 7 (31:05):
So first of all, I think people like John Brennan,
James Comy, I think they are criminals. I thought that
for a number of years. I respect to John Durham,
I thought you did a pretty thorough investigation, uncovered an
awful lot of things. But you know what was always
the word on John Durham is he's only going to
indict if he knows he can convict. The problem is
he was operating within the DC venue. Knight sent plus
(31:27):
of the jury pool voted heavily for Democrats, dedicated Democrat voters,
and he just never felt he could get a conviction.
I think the difference with this conspiracy case. Could you
can move the venue, possibly down to Florida, where you
might actually have a more unbiased jury pool, and you
might actually get a conviction. So again, I hope they
(31:50):
really do pursue this. I think these people should be
indicted I think they certainly should being convicted and they
should pay a price. At a minimum we have is them.
That's the first, from my standpoint, first step in accountability.
I don't know how anybody could ever possibly extend to
security clearance or employ people like John Brennan and James Coomy.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Finally, what are you doing for the vaccine injured? I
know this is something and I appreciate this very much
about you that you are passionate, passionate about There were
people who were harmed. That's not arguable now. They were
all told to shut up and we're just everyone take it.
Who cares if you have a stroke. But that's not
fair to people who were forced, coerced into taking something
that did them great harm. What are we doing with
(32:39):
these people?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
First of all, I'm giving them a platform to tell
their stories. They've never been offered that. In our first
hearing where we had doctor Joel Wallscock, who's injured by
the COVID injection, I asked him, what is the feeling
of your group, you know, rack nineteen people other injured individuals.
He said, abandoned that they're just completely abandoned. There are
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parts of vaccine trials these aren't anti vaxxors. Anybody who's
vaccine injured is not an anti vaxxer. But they were injured,
and the medical establishment, federal health agencies, the news media
completely cover it up. It's got to be such a
lonely feeling. And of course the stories we were heard in
testimony on Tuesday, they're absolutely heartbreaking. You know, I got to,
(33:25):
you know, bring in and read these testimonies beforehand. I
reached out to the witnesses and I apologized for even
having asking him to tell their stories. There's just so heartbreaking.
I cannot believe that there was one article written before
the MSNBC reporter even showed up to the hearing, grotesquely unbiased.
(33:45):
You're just accusing everybody misinformation. There was no misinformation.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
You know.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
We had a couple Democrat witnesses that told their stories
of their family and members who died of severe cases
of flu in the hearing. Those intos we're hugging the
vaccine injured again, this is reality. We just need the truth.
What I am trying to do is I'm trying to
(34:10):
bring forth the truth. There's been so much cover up
of vaccine injuries. There's been so much denial. We get
we need to get to the bottom of this, and
patients parents need informed consent. They're not going to get
informed consent when all you have is a propaganda that
vaccines are safe and effective. Well some of them. Maybe
(34:32):
some of them may have eradicated diseases, others may not have.
We need the full story. Well, we do know that
not one vaccine on the childhood schedule was ever tested
against a true sailine placebo. As much as Fauci lied
about that, he could never produce the documents. They never
have been. There had been documents that had been destroyed.
(34:53):
Again right now, just trying to you know, get documents
out of HHS versus my supena has been like pulling teeth.
Hopefully that that logjam has been broken now by RFK Jr.
But listen, we are a long way from having informed consent,
from having people really understand the cost versus the benefit
(35:16):
of mass vaccination, you know, eight eighty injections without really
contemplating every time you inject somebody of the vaccine, you're
impacting somebody's immune system. You start injecting somebody with six
vaccines at the same time, Gee, what could go wrong?
You're injecting them. When you had these adjuvants like aluminum
(35:39):
that never leave the body that you know aluminum's toxic
to the body. You know the spike protein was toxic
to the body. The injection turned your cells into a
manufacturing site for something that is toxic to the body.
So when those cells express that spike protein, the body
attack that. That's called inflammation, that's myocarditis, that's the neuro
(36:00):
neurological symptoms. Again, I'm not a doctor, not a layman.
It's very easy to understand in layman's terms the potential dangers.
We're just not able to discuss it. Are fed of
Health Agency's lied bold face to us. Just one example,
the covid injection was gonna stay in your arm. They
knew it wouldn't. They had studies that showed bi distributed
(36:20):
all over the body. They encapsulated an o lipid nanoparticle
that it was designed to permeate difficult to permeate barriers
like the blood brain. It was going to leave the muscle.
They knew it, and they lied to us. Why did
they lie to us?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Senator, thank you for being on it, Thank you for everything.
I appreciate you all right, Emma Joe Morris, the Deep
State came after her? What was that? Like? What happened?
Let's talk to her next. All right, let's talk about freshness,
because that's kind of a big deal. Well, at least
sometimes we think it's a big deal. Sometimes we take
(36:57):
that seriously. If you're out buying apples and oranges, you
want fresh ones, right, You care about fresh bread of course,
fresh meat, of course, then why don't we take that
same level of seriousness when it comes to olive oil.
We put olive oil in virtually everything we cook with it.
It's good for you. But we go grab a bottle
(37:19):
off the grocery shelf and it's old, months old, year old.
Stop doing that. Let me tell you about something farm
fresh two four six dot com. Here's what it is,
olive oil, fresh from the farm, fresh from the farm.
You want to know if there's a difference in taste, Well,
(37:41):
allow me to give you a free bottle. It's a
thirty nine dollars bottle, or he pays a buck to
help cover the shipping. Go to farm fresh two four
six dot com and taste the difference.
Speaker 11 (38:04):
Take on the intelligence community. They have six ways from
Sunday at getting back at you. So even for a practical,
supposedly hard nos businessman, he's being really dumb.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
To do this.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
What do you think the intelligence community would do if they.
Speaker 11 (38:17):
Were I don't know, but I from what I am told,
they are very upset with how he has treated them
and talked about.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I know you've seen that before, You've seen that on
this show, but it really is one of the more
jaw dropping admissions I've ever seen in my entire life.
Frightening when you think about the implications of it. I
think we should probably talk to Emma Joe for a moment.
Joining me now, Emma Joe Morris, in case you're wondering, Hey,
where did all this Hunter Biden laptop stuff come from? Well,
(38:47):
she is the reporter who broke the story. Also, she's
the co host of Group Chat on two Way. Okay,
Emma Joe, this whole deep state stuff, deep state coming
after normal people, that's not a real.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Thing, right, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 12 (39:05):
Except me. No, I mean, I'm honestly I think that
I'm among the victims of the deep state. I'm the
one that's been really just lightly grazed. You have others
who have been harassed, bankrupted, sent to jail in some
cases over making a mountain out of a molehill because
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they decided that they didn't like you or what you
were doing, or what you were standing for or what
you are presented or whatever. But yeah, that clip from
Chuck Schumer is just blood curdling. And we learned that.
I mean I learned that in a pretty shocking I think,
in brazen way, obviously to recap for the audience for
(39:47):
anyone who isn't familiar with my story or me maybe,
but they are familiar with the story. I'm sure. I
wrote the Hunter Biden laptop story at The Post in
October of twenty twenty. I was a deputy politics editor
at the Post. Yeah, I mean that was one hundred
percent legit. That journalism was obviously one hundred percent true.
It was airtight, and.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
We knew it was.
Speaker 12 (40:09):
We had called the people in the laptop who were
involved in the emails that we were reporting on.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
They had confirmed it.
Speaker 12 (40:18):
We knew without a doubt that at least what we
were publishing was correct, and we didn't make any illusions
about the material. We just literally published exactly what was
on the laptop, exactly what we had seen in the inbox.
We did not retract one comma amid all that scrutiny,
and still not one comma has been corrected. Not only that,
(40:39):
but the reporting has been vindicated from multiple places, and
the Security State basically just decided that they didn't like
the story and just eliminated it from public view in
a really brazen way. Obviously, there have been multiple congressional
hearings on this, there have been investigations on this, whistleblowers
have come forward on this, and I think what the
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most shocking part of the story was to this day,
of everything that's come out about it, to me, the
most outrageous part was how the Security State had really
co opted social media companies.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
They like. We found out, you know, over the course
of that story.
Speaker 12 (41:21):
Unfolding, that they had basically staffed up Facebook and Twitter
to the extent that at Twitter at least there was
a bu which sounds for bureau slack channel for all
the former FBI agents who now were working at Twitter.
Not to mention Jim Baker obviously, who was a central
(41:43):
character in the Russia hoax and was a notorious deep stater,
and he was Twitter's chief leading counsel like that is outrageous.
So imagine that the FBI is approaching Twitter to talk
about quote unquote disinformation and how to prevent the proliferation
of disinformation. The FBI comes to Twitter. If your Twitter,
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what do you do immediately when you're approached by the FBI?
You call your lawyer. In this case, they call their lawyer,
and their lawyer is.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
The FBI too.
Speaker 12 (42:12):
Think about how ominous that is. It's chilling actually to say,
and to this day it freaks me out. And there's
been no real change that I've heard that's been recorded
of this dynamic. Facebook has the exact meta because the
exact same dynamic. Mark Zuckerberg said that outright on Joe
(42:32):
Rogan's podcast, And this has never been addressed, you know,
And I testify to Congress in I think it was
twenty twenty three, the summer of twenty twenty three, and
my main message was like, how is this being corrected?
This must be corrected, Like I don't know where the
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First Amendment starts and stops. What about my First Amendment
and the right to not be censored by spot And
that just seems to have come and gone with that
Congress and never picked up again. And if there's one
thing I think that's really positive about this Epstein saga,
and this is really trying to find a silver lining,
is that we are revisiting this conversation and revisiting the
(43:18):
question of how much censorship is appropriate from people in
the FBI, in the CIA, in that big security state network.
How much is it appropriate for them to weigh in
on what the American people are allowed to see and read.
I don't know the answer to that question, but as
far as I'm concerned, this has never been addressed.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Well, it hasn't ever been addressed. Emma, just really quickly,
I've only got about thirty seconds here. Do you think
Republicans have what it takes to address it? I know
it will take time, but this has to stop or
we don't have a free country.
Speaker 12 (43:57):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree. Listen, there are a
lot of issues I know that are very important and
that have to be done in limited time in Trump's administration.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
In this Congress.
Speaker 12 (44:06):
You know, obviously immigration is probably the top that's the
top issue people voted for. However, exactly what you said,
it's like, and this is I agree with you. It's
this really hits to the foundation of what it means
to be an American and what our rights are and
where the government like is kind of acting illegally, which
I think that they really went up to that line
(44:28):
in this and are have you seen the Republicans really
take anything seriously for that matter? I mean, I don't know.
I don't have a lot of hope. And it's bad
because it's a pretty central right.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
You're not wrong, Emma, Joe. You're welcome anytime. Thank you, ma'am.
All right, vital thoughts. Thanks. I know it seems ominous
(45:04):
taking on the deep state, taking apart, taking down the
deep state, but we can. It's just going to take time.
It took time for them to build it. It will
take time for us to attack it and take it down.
Let's stay focused. We do not need to be ruled
by unelected bureaucrats ever. All right, We'll do it again.
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Jesse Kelly
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