April 16, 2025 • 44 mins
It was a ROUGH day for CNN's Kaitlan Collins at the White House, as she was masterfully taken down by El Salvador's Nayib Bukule and President Trump. Jesse Kelly takes a deeper dive into what this means for the media. This comes on the heels of sad news regarding one of the last living Pearl Harbor veterans. Jesse also speaks with Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton about his run against John Cornyn, as well as the Florida Attorney General, James Uthmeier. Plus, some startling new AI intel from Joel Allen.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The media.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Democrats do hate America. We'll talk about that tonight. John
Cornyan is being challenged with a legitimate primary challenger. He
joins us tonight on the show. The Florida Attorney General
is here as well. Apparently it's legal night here, and
I'm writing, Okay, before we get to democrats and how
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they hate America, mainly CNN, but it's way more than CNN.
Before we get to any of that, I want to
do something really quickly. Here a Von p Drake Junior.
You've probably never heard the name, but he was one
hundred and six years old. He was our oldest living
survivor of Pearl Harbor, and he finally passed away. And
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I wanted to take a moment to honor the man,
and I wanted to take a moment somber as it
can be. I wanted to take a moment and just
encourage you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
If you have.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Anybody in your life, in any touching your sphere at all,
who's a World War II veteran, I him a cup
of coffee. Maybe here's a suggestion, just a suggestion to
do what you want. Do you have a nursing home
of some kind of care facility, an old people's home,
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whatever you want to call it in your area. Maybe
a phone call, see if there's one there, Go have
coffee with him on Saturday, on Sunday. I say this
not just because they will love it, and not just
because you will love it. You will love it, by
the way. I say this because Father time is undefeated,
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and these World War Two veterans were finally at that place.
Now in the year twenty twenty five, they're all going away,
they're all dying. We don't have many more years where
we'll be.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Able to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And they are such a link to the past, a
link to past generations. And I just I wanted to
encourage you to go talk to them, hear their stories.
You will enjoy yourself. You will, So if you feel
like it, don't talk to one. Pearl Harbor was a
dark day in this country. There are a lot of
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brave men who fought in that, a lot of brave
men died, and then of course World War Two we
know what happened there. So if you know one, talk
to them, all right, All right, now, speaking of the country,
let's shift gears on something here, because it's getting a
lot of play about CNN versus Donald Trump and Trump
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versus the judges and deportations and things like that. Okay,
so let's just boil this down. The White House announced
they're eyeing one million deportations the first year. Now, there
are a couple things we need to say about this number.
One that's very ambitious and good for the White House.
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Two that's not nearly enough. I know it sounds like
I'm saying two different things.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm really really not.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I applaud the Trump administration and the Trump White House
for their ongoing efforts to round up as many illegal
immigrants as humanly possible. They are trying. I have many
sources inside of the White House. They are dead set
on getting them all out. If they can one million
the first year, that's a good goal. Is that going
to be enough at the end of four years?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well no, not.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
When Joe Biden and the Communists imported twenty million in
their four years, four million after four years is not enough.
But it's a good start, a good first year, which
of course brings us to our current situation. Because I
get a lot of I get a lot of questions,
a lot of emailed questions from people asking me, Jesse
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I don't understand. Why why is this judge making this ruling,
Why are they stopping this? Why why are Democrats so
adamant about this? Well, let me put this as plainly
as humanly possible. We have for generations now taught Americans
children in schools and most definitely in college, that the
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United States of America is evil. If you end up
leaving school or believing that, you will naturally find a
home in the Democrat Party because the Democrat Party of
twenty twenty five despises the United States of America. There's
no other reason you would get elected and promptly bring
in as many rapists and murderers from El Salvador as
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humanly possible. The Democrat Party hates the United States of America.
And this is something anyone who's ever worked on political
campaigns will tell you, and Democrats will whind about this,
and yet it is a one hundred percent verifiable fact.
If there is a home with an American flag that
is not a Democrat home, it's not. There are exceptions,
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of course, but anyone who's ever knocked on doors, worked
on a campaign at all will tell you that home
may not be a Republican home. It may be Republican,
it may be libertarian, it may be independent, it may
be this or that, but if there is an American
flag flying on that home, it is not a Democrat home.
Because the entire base of the modern Democrat Party believes
America sucks and this country deserves to be burnt down.
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And yeah, if we brought in twenty million barbarians, that's
because the barbarians.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
They deserve to loot this country, which sucks.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Anyway, that's how the American media thinks, That's how the
American Democrat Party thinks. That's how all those federal employees,
top to bottom, that's exactly how they think about this country.
That little mist you get in your eyes when the
national anthem is playing, it is as foreign to these
people as Narnia.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
They don't have any idea.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What that kind of patriotism, what that kind of love
of America feels like. All they feel is hatred for
this place, which sucks. And so getting to that place
where you accept that can be hard for a lot
of people. I'm a jure so it's easy for me,
but for a lot of people, it's hard to accept
that you share a country with people who hate the country.
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There's just there's no other explanation for what you see though.
I mean, let's talk specifically about the MS thirteen gang member.
MS thirteen really bad news originated in El Salvador. You
probably already know this. But they made their bones in
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the criminal world by being more vicious than other gangs.
That's how they rose. They came here, they've been here
for years, and every now and then you'll see it.
Of course, the media covers it up, but you'll see
it up your phone. When then you'll see some story.
But oh, while some kid got tortured to death, oh
somebody got their head chopped off. That this is in America.
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MS thirteen did it. MS thirteen did it. MS thirteen
is a vicious organization. The Trump administration took somebody who
wasn't an American citizen but was, according to two different courts,
a member of MS thirteen, and they packed him up
and they sent him back home to El Salvador. He's
not an American, he belongs in El Salvador. They sent
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him back home. And since that time, almost every single
elected Democrat and everybody in the American media have tried
desperately to bring the MS thirteen gang member back into
the United States of America. Now tell me again, am
I crazy for saying these people hate America? And this
Caitlin Collins was CNN. She gets into the White House,
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into the Oval Office where El Salvador's President Bukeley and
President Trump are there, and what's she there to do?
She needs that rapist back in America.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Let she hit the question from this very low rated anchor.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Plan to ask President to help return the man who
your administration says was mistaken the man who was mistakenly
deported to El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, let me ask, Pam, would you ask to answer
that question?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court,
ruled that he was a member of MS thirteen.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Can President on this do you plan to return him?
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Well? Yeah, I suppose I suggested that I smuggle the
terrorist today United States?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
How can I suggle How can I return him to
the latter just because I smuggle him into the United
States or whether, of course I'm not going.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
It's like, let mean, the question is my busterous? How
can I smuggle the terrorists today?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
United States?
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I don't have the power to return him to the
United States. Yeah, but I'm not releasing I mean, we're
not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country. If
he want us to go back into the releasing criminals
so we can go back to being the murdered capital
of the world, and that's that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Well, they'd love to have a criminal, you know, I mean,
there's they would love it. Yeah, they're sick. These are
sick people.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And you said that if the Supreme Court said someone
needed to be returned, that you would abide by that.
You said that on your corse one just a few
days ago, and they said that it must.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Why didn't you just say, isn't it wonderful that we're
keeping criminals out of our country?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Why can't you just say that?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Why do you go over and over And that's why
nobody watches you anymore?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know, you have no credibility. I think they hate
our country actually, and of.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Course they do. There's no other explanation for it. These people,
if they had their way, would bring in every rapist
and murderer and drug dealer across the planet into your community.
Because that's how you burn down a country, and that's
how They've been trained over and over again. And Dana
(10:01):
Bash can go to the television set and try to
claim they don't hate America all day long.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Say, for the record, since we heard President Trump say
in the Oval Office that CNN hates our country, CNN
does not hate our country. That should go without saying.
I've been here for thirty two years and I.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
But you do. You do hate the country.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Now, you don't want to be labeled as that because
that label does hurt CNN's credibility. You don't want that
word to go out that you hate the country.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But I own the home. I own a home.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And if I if I fly down to El Salvador
and I walk into that prison for terrorists that Bouqueley
has set up, and I asked them, I said, hey,
I need I need five criminals from here. Make it
the worst of the worst. And they hand those criminals
to me. And I put those criminals on a plane
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and I fly them back to the United States of
America and I moved them into the extra bedroom in
my home.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do I love my home or do I hate my home?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Democrats brought twenty million people into the United States of
America on purpose. They didn't allow it. They didn't look
the other way. They not only opened the border, they
sued to keep the border open. And then they took
your money, and they flew these people in the country,
and then took more of your money and flew these
people around the country. And then they took more of
your money, and they created an app to allow these
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people to schedule their.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Invasion into this country.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So allow me to say what I've said many times before,
and I'll continue to repeat it. Democrats do hate the
United States of America. They want to burn it down.
Voting for Democrats in the year twenty twenty five is
an act of evil and you should never do it,
and if you've done it recently, you should be ashamed
of yourself. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but
I am right now. State of Florida has been a
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model for the direction we want the United States of
America to go. Their attorney general has been a model
of how we want our attorney generals to act, all
of them. And I know it's attorneys general. That's a
stupid way to say the plural version of the words,
so I don't say it that way.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I call them attorney generals.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Anyway, We're going to talk to Florida's state attorney general
in a moment. Before we talk to him, let's do
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Speaker 1 (13:08):
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We'll be back. Well.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I have outstanding news. I mean it's not breaking news.
We've already talked about it on the show. But what
if we said over and over and over again that
it's red states that constantly failed the United States American
part of our failure is the loser senators we send
to Washington, d C. Red states states like my own,
like Texas, but Texas isn't alone. The Carolinas, the Dakota
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is a good analyst. Red states routinely send the biggest
weenie losers to Washington DC. We can find we could
have anybody we want, and so we need to change that.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Neil Way.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
To change that is a primary, But it's hard to primary.
United States Senator, It's very difficult. Takes money. You have
to have the ability to raise money. You have to
be already known.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
As much as I hate this, you can't come out
of nowhere and challenge a United States Senator. You need
the right circumstances, and we have it. Gosh, I'm so
happy right now. Joining me now the current Attorney General
for the state of Texas and a good one and
a man who is doing exactly what we've talked about forever.
Attorney General Ken Paxton, who is challenging John Cornyn in Texas.
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I'm so happy you're here. I don't think I'm I
ever said that to anybody, but I'm just so thrilled
you're here.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, thank you. It's great to be here. It's going
to be an interesting year.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, why do this?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know it's interesting. I'm getting all this pushback from
the Washington establishment about why I shouldn't do it, because
there's really no difference. Cornyn is just as good as
anybody else. And my answer is no, he's not. If
you look at his twenty three years in the Senate,
look at his forty years in office, there's nothing that
you look at and you say, hey, this guy really
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represents Texans, especially Texan Texas primary voters, the way we
want to be represented. And so after twenty three years,
I can say it's been a failure. I can't point
to things that he's done that I'm proud of. I
can talk about things that he has done that I
wished he hadn't done. And so there's no reason. Maybe
if he's from Maine, we're okay with this, but if
we're from Texas, we need somebody more like Ted Cruz,
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not somebody like John Cornyn who just goes along to
get along and answer and answers to Washington and not
tech voters.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You're you're one hundred percent right about that. It's it's
something that I've implored my fellow Texans and we're all
Red staters about that we owe the country better than
what we give them, Like you pointed out Maine, Alaska. Okay,
that's going to be what it's going to be. Texas
should be sending the most blood, the blood red conservative
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you could possibly find. And John Cornin's there leading the
charge on gun control.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well exactly. And I can tell you this, I mean,
no Democratic president, including Joe Biden's going to be congratulating
me on work that I've done for you know, the country.
And that's exactly what happened with John Coryn when he
pushed through his gun legislation that restricted ownership and restricted
gun rights. This is a guy that was congratulated by
Joe Biden. That tells you exactly what you need to know.
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That's never going to happen with me.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
What happens to these people when they go to DC
because obviously, you know, when you're a senator from a
state like Texas, So I'll just make it about Texas.
You understand who the people of Texas are and what
they want. Why do you lose your mind in Washington, DC?
Is it the power? Is it the money?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I think it does happen that people change, But I
don't think that's John Cornyn's story. I think when he
got elected during the Bush reign, he was exactly what
one and we were just trying to elect Republicans. We
hadn't had very many Republicans in Texas. We elected John
corn He was a Bush guy and he was there
to do what the Bushes wanted to do. He still is.
And the reality is now we are a solid Republican
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state and we don't have to accept we're just going
to have a guy that go up there and has
the R by his name. He's going to vote, you know,
somewhat Republican, but he's not going to get the job done,
and he's going to do things like oppose the border wall.
He is going to oppose Donald Trump both personally as
an elected official, but also on many of his issues.
And he is going to pass restrictive gun legislation and
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that's not what we need from Texas.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
How's the GOP response been, both inside the state and nationally.
I say this as someone who has challenged an establishment
guy for Congress and felt what that's like with all
the big money people, all the big shots telling you
you have to wait your turn, you can't do this. Oh,
I remember all the lines. I'm sure you've gotten all
of them.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I've gotten them all, and mostly from outside of Texas,
mostly from you know, Senate leadership and the other you
know establishment people. Some within Texas that were definitely part
of that establishment group, but the majority of Texas that
I've talked to are very excited. I mean I didn't
just like come up with this idea. I've been out testing,
I've been out talking, I've been out meeting with hundreds
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of Republicans, and every time I brought it up, it
was an overwhelmingly positive response. We are desperate for a change.
We are desperate, after twenty four years of John Corny,
to have a choice. And so that's what this is.
This is a choice. And I can guarantee this. John
corn is not going to run on his record. He's
not going to because he can't. He's not going to
run on my record. This is all going to be
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personal attacks, and that's what he's all about. He cannot
stand on his own two feet. And the only thing
he can say is, you know, now, I'm supporting Trump
after criticizing him for the last you know, eight years. Now,
Johnny cun lately, John Cornyn is in the in the
in the fold for the president for the first time ever.
And that's gonna last. How long it's gonna last till
we're done with the elections.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Of course, he was asked about you. Here's what he said.
I'm sure you've seen it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Do you have any leveal concern about Paxton running to
the right of you, miss primary?
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Well, the biggest potential loser is President Trump's agenda. I've
been a supporter of the president during his first term
of office and that's continued during his current term. Mister
Paxton has a checker background. He is a con man
and a fraud and I think the people of Texas
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know that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's also predictable and tired. You already pointed out what
it's going to be. It's going to be a never
ending commercial spree of Trump. Trump, Trump, I love Trump.
I love Trump, even though he's done everything in his
power to undermine everything to make America great again. Agenda
is it's going to be Donald Trump's name as he
desperately sucks up trying to earn that endorsement.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well, he just talked about fraud and a con man.
That's exactly what we just saw there talking about I've
been a big support of Donald Trump from the beginning.
That is a con job, and that is a fraudulent statement.
That is not true. He said in twenty sixteen when
Trump was earned NOMI, he was an albatross around our neck,
and this time he insinuated that he was at criminal.
Of course, John was a judge and he should know
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better than to insinuate that people are criminals without proof,
which is what he did in my case and in
the president's case. And then of course he said that
he would not be supporting Donald Trump and that we
should have a better new nominee. So just looking at
what he said in that clip, that's what you call
a fraudulent statement. That's what you call a con man,
and that's supposedly what I am. And there he is
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lying to the public and lyne to Texans.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
All right, where do we go from here?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Give the people watching details because this is a national
race that has national implications. Taking out one of these
losers is really important for the whole country. So the
people watching, what can they do? Can they do anything
when is all this?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh, look, this is going to be a battle of
Texas versus Washington establishment, and the money is going to
come from all over the country. For John Cornyn to
let plenty of money from outside sources. He will raise
some money in Texas, but my money is going to
have to come from the grassroots all over the country.
And I am convinced that we can raise enough. We
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don't have to outraise them. We just have to be
in the game of something two to one three to
run within that range. We can beat John Cornyn and
we can win this election. Where do people go, Kenpaxson
dot com and you can go donate right there and
start the start the momentum. Small contributions are or we
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want them because it shows support, It shows the difference
between me and him, because he will not be getting
those small contributions, not in any large volume.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Kenpaxton dot com. If you got five bucks, give it,
you got five hundred, give it. This is critically important.
I'm asking you to do it. How many times do
I do that?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I never do that. I'm doing it right now, mister
Attorney General. Thank you. I appreciate you. I'm very much
behind you. Go get him. We needed to win, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Now we have to talk well, remember Ryan Ralph, let's
have a talk here in a moment. Before we talk
about that, I need to tell you something. I have
to confess something to you. I'm in a terrible mood today.
Maybe you can already tell. Maybe you could tell from
the opening of the show. I'm just in a dreadful mood.
You know why, because I failed went to bed last night.
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I did not have my cup of hot chocolate with
dream powder in it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I told myself that I didn't feel like going to
the kitchen, and I was already in bed. I was comfortable,
I was warm. I have every excuse in the world.
And you know what I did. I laid there and
tossed and turned two three hours and then even still,
even still, I told myself I should get up and
make myself a cup of dream powder. And I didn't
do it. And now I'm angry and nasty all day.
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It's the lack of dream powder in my life. Do
you want to sleep like a baby? Naturally, it's got
natural things in it. Go try it, Just try one bag.
You'll have it in your house for the rest of
your life. Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly. We'll be back,
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all right. So there are a couple of things. There's
a kind of a good news bad news situation here.
The bad news is the last administration did some things,
a lot of bad things, a lot of evil things.
Some things are positively frightening, and in fact, we'll get
to one of those things in a moment.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The good news is there are some really.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Great red state ags out there now, a bench, if
you will, an inspiring group of people who actually have
guts to fight back against things. And of course, surprise, surprise,
Florida happens to be leading the charge on this like
they've been doing for years.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Joining me now.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
James Uthmeyer, ag Attorney General of the wonderful State of Florida. Okay,
James Ryan rauth was one hole ahead of Donald Trump
with a weapon, an optic body armor which he wasn't wearing,
which is kind of weird, getting ready to murder the
soon to be president of the United States of America.
What concerns me a great deal before we get to
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your portion of it, is the Biden administration's stonewall.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Do you want it?
Speaker 5 (24:46):
They did, Yes, I mean, our governor issued an executive
order right away directing our law enforcement to proceed with
our own state investigation because we were worried that the
radical Biden administration was not going to pursue justice, even
though you had a case of an assassination attempt, a
terrorist attack in our state on a Florida resident, on
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a former president and a popular presidential candidate. We feared
that they were not going to pursue justice, and indeed,
once we started that investigation, they stonewalled us. They wouldn't
give us access to the crime scene, they wouldn't give
us access to case files, they would not cooperate with
us in any way. So this investigation stalled because of
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Biden and the Dems for over two hundred and twenty days.
Well after ag Bondi and FBI Director Cash Pttel got
in there, everything changed. We started working together right away,
and we were excited to finally get the evidentiary a
basis to formally press charges.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Last week, James, I'm not going to ask you to
make wild accusations. Of course, I know you can't do
that and wouldn't do that anyway. I would do that,
but I'm not going to do that right now. So
perhaps you could give me in explanation, why any president, Democrat, Republican, anybody,
why would you stonewall Florida's attorney general from investigating somebody
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who was about to assassinate a politician in this country.
That's just doesn't seem to be a left or right thing.
That seems to be a very basic thing, unless, of course,
you wanted him to succeed.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
What's the innocent explanation.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
I don't know that there's a good explanation.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I think they made some allegations that they were worried
about us messing.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Up the investigation.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
But you know, as far as I can see, you know,
you had a couple hundred days go by and they
weren't doing anything. So, you know, justice should not be partisan.
It should not be based on what party is in charge.
Justice should be based on putting bad guys away. And
I don't care if there's a Democrat or Republican in
the White House. If you have a former president, a
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presidential candidate who someone is trying to kill, the justice
systems at the federal and state level should be working
closely together to ensure that justice is levied, and we
intend to do that again.
Speaker 9 (27:05):
You know, we press charges last week.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
We'll be bringing this case as swiftly as we can,
and we'd like to make sure that we see a
conviction in very good do time.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Okay, could you lay out for us the allegations, the
charges you're bringing.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
What did this guy do? What weapons did he have?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Specifically, what is this guy's story? We know we've heard
these internet rumors that the guy was overseas recruiting mercenarios.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
There's all kinds of wild things out there. What do
we actually know?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, well, you know, you've got really what should be
an open shutcase here. There's a lot of speculation, a
lot you know, related to the investigation.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
I cannot share today.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
We do have charging docs and evidence that will be
made public very very soon. But you got a guy
here who's been charged with with two main counts, attempted
murder as well as a terrorism a state terrorism charge.
There's also a separate state felony attempted murder because he
fled the scene, moved across counties into Martin County and
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actually collided with a family vehicle and unfortunately, a young
girl in that vehicle was paralyzed as a result of
the collision. So this is a bad guy, and you know,
we've brought several charges and you know, expect things to
move more quickly.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now, okay, let's uh, let's talk about working with the
current FBI versus the old one you mentioned cash Ptel.
What's that been like to have an FBI that actually helps.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
It's pretty refreshing, I tell you what. The FBI.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
You know, hearing those three letters used to kind of
give me the shivers because you weren't sure if you
were going to get anybody on the other end of
the phone that wanted to work with you. It seemed
very much like bureaucracy, not a bureau Today, it's been
very different. You've got somebody on the other line that
wants to investigate, that wants to move quickly. Obviously is
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going to follow the law and respect rule of law,
but at the end of the day, you know, work
to put bad people away.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Let's talk about red state attorney generals and their role
in this country. On a broader scale because we won't
always have Donald Trump lead in the country. We won't
have Cash Betel leading the FBI, and we saw what
can happen for four years under Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
What role does the age play? What role should the
age play?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yeah, you know, ags are on the front lines to
ensure that you've got safe streets, that our families are protected,
our children are safe, and that our citizens, you know.
Speaker 9 (29:39):
Have rule of law.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
AGS are here to make sure we don't have local
government officials that you know, want to be derelict of
their duties, that don't want to enforce the law. You know,
we've got some prosecutors in this state that from time
to time say they're not going to enforce categories of law.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
We've held them accountable everywhere we can.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
We've got a great govern who suspends them from office
if they if they do cross the line and violate
their constitutional duties. We've got other actions that we can
bring as well. On the immigration context, you know, ags
are on the front lines of ensuring we have sovereignty estates,
that we have borders, that we are protecting our citizens
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from the dangers that come when you've got you know,
undocumented individuals that move into the state, often associated with narcotics,
fentanyl trafficking.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
You know, very dangerous components.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
We're here to step up and ensure that we are
going to work with the federal government. We're going to
work with ICE to find people that don't belong here
and get them out of our state before they cause
serious harm.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
How do we handle things like prosecutorial discretion as it's
known in your world. You already mentioned the prosecutors. These
these prosecutors. It's not just a Florida things. Sadly, it's
across the United States of America. These prosecutors get into
office funded by i left wing money, and they just
let criminals.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Out of jail.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
They don't prosecute people, and it's left a lot of
people in this country pretty exasperated with the justice system.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Look, prosecutorial discretion, it was a big deal to the founders.
It's a key tenet of our you know, our legal
enforcement system. Prosecutorial discretion is important to our state attorneys
and prosecutors to give them flexibility to negotiate, to plea
things down ultimately to decide where to make priorities. You've
got never ending crimes out there, and we've got to
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figure out what is truly a priority. But at the
end of the day, you've got these leftist, radical Soros
prosecutors that decide they don't want to enforce the law
at all, and they do so in the name of
prosecutorial discretion. But that discretion that does not give you
the ability to, you know, delineate policies or broad categories
where you say you're not going to enforce certain laws.
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It doesn't give you the ability to tell your teams
we're not going to bring these cases.
Speaker 9 (31:59):
We're going to let dangerous.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
People out on bail who may end up and, as
we've seen in some jurisdictions, commit heinous crimes, commit murder
in the days that follow. That is not permissible. We're
not going to allow it in Florida. And I'm glad
to see that some other states are following our lead
and ensuring that these types of individuals do not get
to drop the ball and put the safety of families
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in danger.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Keep going, sir, All right, AI, Artificial intelligence, I know
it can get way confusing if you're like me. I
can barely work my phone, but it's really, really, really important.
What's happening out there right now and what the goals
of the people pushing it. What are those goals. We're
going to talk to Joe Allen about that in a moment.
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
We'll be back. Artificial intelligence is I don't get it,
but I know it matters.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And look, I have a very thirty thousand foot understanding
of it, but I know that it matters for business reasons,
for national security reasons.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
It's a really, really really big deal.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Hopefully, hopefully Joe can explain it in a little bit
more detail than that, are we falling behind? Have we
fallen behind? What's the future of all this? Joining me now?
Joe Allen, author of the book Dark Eon. Okay, Joe AI,
Where are we as a country versus China, versus Russia
(34:32):
versus the other places out there?
Speaker 10 (34:36):
Well, Jesse, Despite all of the mythology around it, I
think the US is ahead of everyone, including China. China's
catching up, but largely due to technology transfer and IP theft.
Other nations are also scrambling to catch up. There are
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a lot of operation in Israel, in Europe. Russia has programs.
They're not impressive so far as anyone knows. What we're
seeing in this AI race, though, it's definitely a scramble
to achieve some sort of human level intelligence that would
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almost immediately move beyond into superhuman levels of intelligence. Now,
I think there's every reason to be skeptical if that,
as to whether that is possible. But the drive itself,
the fact that we are seeing so much capital, so
much effort to rearrange the infrastructure to provide power for
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these systems that the people at the top of the
food chain, that being all the big tech guys from
Mark Zuckerberg to the guys at Google, to the guys
at Microsoft, Open Ai, Xai, on and on and on.
These guys believe that they are creating some sort of
godlike entity, and as Elon Musk noted yesterday, he said
(36:10):
this many times that the systems that they believe they're
building will be smarter than the smartest human on the planet,
and then in short order, be smarter than all humans
on the planet. It's ultimately a religious belief system, but
it's a religious belief system with very, very tangible evidence
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that their anticipated miracles might actually come into existence.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Okay, so, Joe, I hate to ask you to dumb
down something you know so much more about than I do.
But I understand the concept of being able to gather
up all these facts, all these things from you know, everywhere,
and have a computer smart enough to compute them and
come up with answers for things and things like that.
But are we at the place where it can gather
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up all this information and then expand on it. Are
we already there or is that where they're trying to.
Speaker 10 (37:10):
Go Definitely not there, definitely trying to go there. You know,
it's been said that AI as it exists today, the
large language models and image generators, they're kind of like
a JPEG file in that they compress a lot of
data down into something that's very efficient and streamlined. You
(37:33):
also have a lot of problems with the hallucinations still,
so that you ask an AI something and it just
begins rambling on about non existent things with a kind
of air of authority, providing fake links, all of that.
But that's a minority of cases, and the majority of
cases it's somewhat accurate the dream, and no one knows
(37:54):
what the breakthrough will be exactly, but the dream is
that you would take all of that compressed data and
you would then have, as you just said, a system
that would be able to arrive at novel formulas in physics,
or be able to put together pieces of information to
arrive at a new engineering design, something like that. These
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systems right now rely on previous human contributions to knowledge
and they just make it easier to access. But it
should also be noted that CHAT GPT or Grock or
any of these systems that they do produce novel outputs
(38:36):
from that knowledge. In that sense, you could say that
they are doing something creative, you know, kind of like
a derivative artist or a derivative writer who just basically
weaves together things that other people have said, but does
so in a novel way.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Joe, what's Navidia And why are they spending five hundred
billion dollars?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
That's a lot of cheddar.
Speaker 10 (39:00):
Yeah, in Nvidia was really a kind of marginal company
until their graphics processing units, the chips that are necessary
to train these big AI systems. Those chips, when it
was discovered that they were very effective at training AI,
suddenly the company rocketed in value, their output, and their
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engineering designs became much more sophisticated due to that, and
so in Vidia kind of out of nowhere became one
of the largest tech companies in the world. And of
course they planned to open up operations now in Arizona
and in Texas to build a chip manufacturing plant and
(39:45):
data centers. So they're going to be very very important.
And the reason that Trump and the investors in the
US are courting them, trying to bring them into the
US is that most, if not the vast majority, of
chips needed to train AI come from Taiwan, and you
(40:05):
see the tension there. For a long time, China has
been kind of threatening to move on Taiwan. If they
were to do so, that would leave at least for
a while, the US high and dry, and we would
have to scramble to come up with the manufacturing infrastructure
to build the chips ourselves. It's all part of this
AI race. It's kind of an arms race. It's again
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it's positioned as if it's the US against China, and
it is. But I think that the more important arms
race is between US companies like Xai and Open Ai.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Shouldn't we be happy about that arms race between companies?
Doesn't that make the product better in the spirit of
capitalism and all that you know?
Speaker 10 (40:51):
On its face, sure, But if you look at the
statements from Elon Musk, from Sam Altman, from Eric Schmidt,
former Google CEO, and even the more skeptical types like
Jan Lucun at Meta AI, all of them foresee in
the very near future again that dream of artificial general intelligence,
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a machine that can think better than any human being
on earth. And then eventually super intelligence machine that can
think better than all human beings on earth. The goal,
openly stated by all of these people and widely ignored,
is to create systems that will ultimately replace the economic
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roles of every human being in the world, except for
those in control of the system. They openly talk about
replacing first all coders, then all white collar workers, and
then all blue collar workers with advanced robotics. And the
result for us, the rabble on the ground, is that
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we're promised that this will lead to radical abundance and
we will all be able to get universal basic income
or universal high income, basically meaning we're all relegated to
being on welfare with no negotiating power whatsoever. Now, again,
this is a dream. We're moving towards something like that.
Whether that will happen or not, it's anyone's guess, and
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many people are guessing and making a lot of money
from their guesses. But what I think is really important
to remember is that all of these people, the wealthiest
men on earth, are openly saying that they look forward
to a greater replacement. They want to see some at first,
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and then all human labor just completely vaporized by automation.
Knowing that pretty much anything else that they might say,
you should understand that it is not necessarily you that
they're interested in and your benefits and your satisfaction in life.
(43:06):
What they're looking for is money. What they're looking for
is power, and they're willing to acquire these things at
the expense of basically every human being on earth. Doesn't
mean you have to believe that they will actually achieve it.
It's just the same as if communists said we are
going to take over your society, equalize all of the roles,
and provide the working class with a better life. Doesn't
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mean they're going to do anything like that. You just
know that they are willing to completely restructure everything around
their ideology, and you also know historically that it's probably
not going to be in your benefit.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Joe, thank you, my brother.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I appreciate it. It's a crazy world. It's too light
in the mood. Next, all right, it's time to lighten
the mood. And I'm an Ohio State fan. I was
(44:09):
born in Ohio, lived there until I was ten. You
really didn't have any choice. Ohio State Buckeyes won the
national titles, showed up at the White House that's a
good thing. What was less good was JD. Vance, vice
President of the United States of America. He broke the
national championship trophy. JD was a good sport about it
(44:43):
in the end, though, all right, I'll see them all
The media.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Democrats do hate America. We'll talk about that tonight. John
Cornyan is being challenged with a legitimate primary challenger. He
joins us tonight on the show. The Florida Attorney General
is here as well. Apparently it's legal night here, and
I'm writing, Okay, before we get to democrats and how
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they hate America, mainly CNN, but it's way more than CNN.
Before we get to any of that, I want to
do something really quickly. Here a Von p Drake Junior.
You've probably never heard the name, but he was one
hundred and six years old. He was our oldest living
survivor of Pearl Harbor, and he finally passed away. And
(00:54):
I wanted to take a moment to honor the man,
and I wanted to take a moment somber as it
can be. I wanted to take a moment and just
encourage you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
If you have.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Anybody in your life, in any touching your sphere at all,
who's a World War II veteran, I him a cup
of coffee. Maybe here's a suggestion, just a suggestion to
do what you want. Do you have a nursing home
of some kind of care facility, an old people's home,
(01:30):
whatever you want to call it in your area. Maybe
a phone call, see if there's one there, Go have
coffee with him on Saturday, on Sunday. I say this
not just because they will love it, and not just
because you will love it. You will love it, by
the way. I say this because Father time is undefeated,
(01:53):
and these World War Two veterans were finally at that place.
Now in the year twenty twenty five, they're all going away,
they're all dying. We don't have many more years where
we'll be.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Able to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And they are such a link to the past, a
link to past generations. And I just I wanted to
encourage you to go talk to them, hear their stories.
You will enjoy yourself. You will, So if you feel
like it, don't talk to one. Pearl Harbor was a
dark day in this country. There are a lot of
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brave men who fought in that, a lot of brave
men died, and then of course World War Two we
know what happened there. So if you know one, talk
to them, all right, All right, now, speaking of the country,
let's shift gears on something here, because it's getting a
lot of play about CNN versus Donald Trump and Trump
(02:53):
versus the judges and deportations and things like that. Okay,
so let's just boil this down. The White House announced
they're eyeing one million deportations the first year. Now, there
are a couple things we need to say about this number.
One that's very ambitious and good for the White House.
(03:13):
Two that's not nearly enough. I know it sounds like
I'm saying two different things.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm really really not.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I applaud the Trump administration and the Trump White House
for their ongoing efforts to round up as many illegal
immigrants as humanly possible. They are trying. I have many
sources inside of the White House. They are dead set
on getting them all out. If they can one million
the first year, that's a good goal. Is that going
to be enough at the end of four years?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well no, not.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
When Joe Biden and the Communists imported twenty million in
their four years, four million after four years is not enough.
But it's a good start, a good first year, which
of course brings us to our current situation. Because I
get a lot of I get a lot of questions,
a lot of emailed questions from people asking me, Jesse
(04:05):
I don't understand. Why why is this judge making this ruling,
Why are they stopping this? Why why are Democrats so
adamant about this? Well, let me put this as plainly
as humanly possible. We have for generations now taught Americans
children in schools and most definitely in college, that the
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United States of America is evil. If you end up
leaving school or believing that, you will naturally find a
home in the Democrat Party because the Democrat Party of
twenty twenty five despises the United States of America. There's
no other reason you would get elected and promptly bring
in as many rapists and murderers from El Salvador as
(04:49):
humanly possible. The Democrat Party hates the United States of America.
And this is something anyone who's ever worked on political
campaigns will tell you, and Democrats will whind about this,
and yet it is a one hundred percent verifiable fact.
If there is a home with an American flag that
is not a Democrat home, it's not. There are exceptions,
(05:10):
of course, but anyone who's ever knocked on doors, worked
on a campaign at all will tell you that home
may not be a Republican home. It may be Republican,
it may be libertarian, it may be independent, it may
be this or that, but if there is an American
flag flying on that home, it is not a Democrat home.
Because the entire base of the modern Democrat Party believes
America sucks and this country deserves to be burnt down.
(05:33):
And yeah, if we brought in twenty million barbarians, that's
because the barbarians.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
They deserve to loot this country, which sucks.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Anyway, that's how the American media thinks, That's how the
American Democrat Party thinks. That's how all those federal employees,
top to bottom, that's exactly how they think about this country.
That little mist you get in your eyes when the
national anthem is playing, it is as foreign to these
people as Narnia.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
They don't have any idea.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What that kind of patriotism, what that kind of love
of America feels like. All they feel is hatred for
this place, which sucks. And so getting to that place
where you accept that can be hard for a lot
of people. I'm a jure so it's easy for me,
but for a lot of people, it's hard to accept
that you share a country with people who hate the country.
(06:25):
There's just there's no other explanation for what you see though.
I mean, let's talk specifically about the MS thirteen gang member.
MS thirteen really bad news originated in El Salvador. You
probably already know this. But they made their bones in
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the criminal world by being more vicious than other gangs.
That's how they rose. They came here, they've been here
for years, and every now and then you'll see it.
Of course, the media covers it up, but you'll see
it up your phone. When then you'll see some story.
But oh, while some kid got tortured to death, oh
somebody got their head chopped off. That this is in America.
(07:07):
MS thirteen did it. MS thirteen did it. MS thirteen
is a vicious organization. The Trump administration took somebody who
wasn't an American citizen but was, according to two different courts,
a member of MS thirteen, and they packed him up
and they sent him back home to El Salvador. He's
not an American, he belongs in El Salvador. They sent
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him back home. And since that time, almost every single
elected Democrat and everybody in the American media have tried
desperately to bring the MS thirteen gang member back into
the United States of America. Now tell me again, am
I crazy for saying these people hate America? And this
Caitlin Collins was CNN. She gets into the White House,
(07:53):
into the Oval Office where El Salvador's President Bukeley and
President Trump are there, and what's she there to do?
She needs that rapist back in America.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Let she hit the question from this very low rated anchor.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Plan to ask President to help return the man who
your administration says was mistaken the man who was mistakenly
deported to El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, let me ask, Pam, would you ask to answer
that question?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court,
ruled that he was a member of MS thirteen.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Can President on this do you plan to return him?
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Well? Yeah, I suppose I suggested that I smuggle the
terrorist today United States?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
How can I suggle How can I return him to
the latter just because I smuggle him into the United
States or whether, of course I'm not going.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
It's like, let mean, the question is my busterous? How
can I smuggle the terrorists today?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
United States?
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I don't have the power to return him to the
United States. Yeah, but I'm not releasing I mean, we're
not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country. If
he want us to go back into the releasing criminals
so we can go back to being the murdered capital
of the world, and that's that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Well, they'd love to have a criminal, you know, I mean,
there's they would love it. Yeah, they're sick. These are
sick people.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And you said that if the Supreme Court said someone
needed to be returned, that you would abide by that.
You said that on your corse one just a few
days ago, and they said that it must.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Why didn't you just say, isn't it wonderful that we're
keeping criminals out of our country?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Why can't you just say that?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Why do you go over and over And that's why
nobody watches you anymore?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know, you have no credibility. I think they hate
our country actually, and of.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Course they do. There's no other explanation for it. These people,
if they had their way, would bring in every rapist
and murderer and drug dealer across the planet into your community.
Because that's how you burn down a country, and that's
how They've been trained over and over again. And Dana
(10:01):
Bash can go to the television set and try to
claim they don't hate America all day long.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Say, for the record, since we heard President Trump say
in the Oval Office that CNN hates our country, CNN
does not hate our country. That should go without saying.
I've been here for thirty two years and I.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
But you do. You do hate the country.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Now, you don't want to be labeled as that because
that label does hurt CNN's credibility. You don't want that
word to go out that you hate the country.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But I own the home. I own a home.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And if I if I fly down to El Salvador
and I walk into that prison for terrorists that Bouqueley
has set up, and I asked them, I said, hey,
I need I need five criminals from here. Make it
the worst of the worst. And they hand those criminals
to me. And I put those criminals on a plane
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and I fly them back to the United States of
America and I moved them into the extra bedroom in
my home.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do I love my home or do I hate my home?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Democrats brought twenty million people into the United States of
America on purpose. They didn't allow it. They didn't look
the other way. They not only opened the border, they
sued to keep the border open. And then they took
your money, and they flew these people in the country,
and then took more of your money and flew these
people around the country. And then they took more of
your money, and they created an app to allow these
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people to schedule their.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Invasion into this country.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So allow me to say what I've said many times before,
and I'll continue to repeat it. Democrats do hate the
United States of America. They want to burn it down.
Voting for Democrats in the year twenty twenty five is
an act of evil and you should never do it,
and if you've done it recently, you should be ashamed
of yourself. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but
I am right now. State of Florida has been a
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model for the direction we want the United States of
America to go. Their attorney general has been a model
of how we want our attorney generals to act, all
of them. And I know it's attorneys general. That's a
stupid way to say the plural version of the words,
so I don't say it that way.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I call them attorney generals.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Anyway, We're going to talk to Florida's state attorney general
in a moment. Before we talk to him, let's do
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We'll be back. Well.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I have outstanding news. I mean it's not breaking news.
We've already talked about it on the show. But what
if we said over and over and over again that
it's red states that constantly failed the United States American
part of our failure is the loser senators we send
to Washington, d C. Red states states like my own,
like Texas, but Texas isn't alone. The Carolinas, the Dakota
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is a good analyst. Red states routinely send the biggest
weenie losers to Washington DC. We can find we could
have anybody we want, and so we need to change that.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Neil Way.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
To change that is a primary, But it's hard to primary.
United States Senator, It's very difficult. Takes money. You have
to have the ability to raise money. You have to
be already known.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
As much as I hate this, you can't come out
of nowhere and challenge a United States Senator. You need
the right circumstances, and we have it. Gosh, I'm so
happy right now. Joining me now the current Attorney General
for the state of Texas and a good one and
a man who is doing exactly what we've talked about forever.
Attorney General Ken Paxton, who is challenging John Cornyn in Texas.
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I'm so happy you're here. I don't think I'm I
ever said that to anybody, but I'm just so thrilled
you're here.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, thank you. It's great to be here. It's going
to be an interesting year.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, why do this?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know it's interesting. I'm getting all this pushback from
the Washington establishment about why I shouldn't do it, because
there's really no difference. Cornyn is just as good as
anybody else. And my answer is no, he's not. If
you look at his twenty three years in the Senate,
look at his forty years in office, there's nothing that
you look at and you say, hey, this guy really
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represents Texans, especially Texan Texas primary voters, the way we
want to be represented. And so after twenty three years,
I can say it's been a failure. I can't point
to things that he's done that I'm proud of. I
can talk about things that he has done that I
wished he hadn't done. And so there's no reason. Maybe
if he's from Maine, we're okay with this, but if
we're from Texas, we need somebody more like Ted Cruz,
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not somebody like John Cornyn who just goes along to
get along and answer and answers to Washington and not
tech voters.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You're you're one hundred percent right about that. It's it's
something that I've implored my fellow Texans and we're all
Red staters about that we owe the country better than
what we give them, Like you pointed out Maine, Alaska. Okay,
that's going to be what it's going to be. Texas
should be sending the most blood, the blood red conservative
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you could possibly find. And John Cornin's there leading the
charge on gun control.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well exactly. And I can tell you this, I mean,
no Democratic president, including Joe Biden's going to be congratulating
me on work that I've done for you know, the country.
And that's exactly what happened with John Coryn when he
pushed through his gun legislation that restricted ownership and restricted
gun rights. This is a guy that was congratulated by
Joe Biden. That tells you exactly what you need to know.
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That's never going to happen with me.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
What happens to these people when they go to DC
because obviously, you know, when you're a senator from a
state like Texas, So I'll just make it about Texas.
You understand who the people of Texas are and what
they want. Why do you lose your mind in Washington, DC?
Is it the power? Is it the money?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I think it does happen that people change, But I
don't think that's John Cornyn's story. I think when he
got elected during the Bush reign, he was exactly what
one and we were just trying to elect Republicans. We
hadn't had very many Republicans in Texas. We elected John
corn He was a Bush guy and he was there
to do what the Bushes wanted to do. He still is.
And the reality is now we are a solid Republican
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state and we don't have to accept we're just going
to have a guy that go up there and has
the R by his name. He's going to vote, you know,
somewhat Republican, but he's not going to get the job done,
and he's going to do things like oppose the border wall.
He is going to oppose Donald Trump both personally as
an elected official, but also on many of his issues.
And he is going to pass restrictive gun legislation and
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that's not what we need from Texas.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
How's the GOP response been, both inside the state and nationally.
I say this as someone who has challenged an establishment
guy for Congress and felt what that's like with all
the big money people, all the big shots telling you
you have to wait your turn, you can't do this. Oh,
I remember all the lines. I'm sure you've gotten all
of them.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I've gotten them all, and mostly from outside of Texas,
mostly from you know, Senate leadership and the other you
know establishment people. Some within Texas that were definitely part
of that establishment group, but the majority of Texas that
I've talked to are very excited. I mean I didn't
just like come up with this idea. I've been out testing,
I've been out talking, I've been out meeting with hundreds
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of Republicans, and every time I brought it up, it
was an overwhelmingly positive response. We are desperate for a change.
We are desperate, after twenty four years of John Corny,
to have a choice. And so that's what this is.
This is a choice. And I can guarantee this. John
corn is not going to run on his record. He's
not going to because he can't. He's not going to
run on my record. This is all going to be
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personal attacks, and that's what he's all about. He cannot
stand on his own two feet. And the only thing
he can say is, you know, now, I'm supporting Trump
after criticizing him for the last you know, eight years. Now,
Johnny cun lately, John Cornyn is in the in the
in the fold for the president for the first time ever.
And that's gonna last. How long it's gonna last till
we're done with the elections.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Of course, he was asked about you. Here's what he said.
I'm sure you've seen it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Do you have any leveal concern about Paxton running to
the right of you, miss primary?
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Well, the biggest potential loser is President Trump's agenda. I've
been a supporter of the president during his first term
of office and that's continued during his current term. Mister
Paxton has a checker background. He is a con man
and a fraud and I think the people of Texas
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know that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's also predictable and tired. You already pointed out what
it's going to be. It's going to be a never
ending commercial spree of Trump. Trump, Trump, I love Trump.
I love Trump, even though he's done everything in his
power to undermine everything to make America great again. Agenda
is it's going to be Donald Trump's name as he
desperately sucks up trying to earn that endorsement.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well, he just talked about fraud and a con man.
That's exactly what we just saw there talking about I've
been a big support of Donald Trump from the beginning.
That is a con job, and that is a fraudulent statement.
That is not true. He said in twenty sixteen when
Trump was earned NOMI, he was an albatross around our neck,
and this time he insinuated that he was at criminal.
Of course, John was a judge and he should know
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better than to insinuate that people are criminals without proof,
which is what he did in my case and in
the president's case. And then of course he said that
he would not be supporting Donald Trump and that we
should have a better new nominee. So just looking at
what he said in that clip, that's what you call
a fraudulent statement. That's what you call a con man,
and that's supposedly what I am. And there he is
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lying to the public and lyne to Texans.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
All right, where do we go from here?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Give the people watching details because this is a national
race that has national implications. Taking out one of these
losers is really important for the whole country. So the
people watching, what can they do? Can they do anything
when is all this?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh, look, this is going to be a battle of
Texas versus Washington establishment, and the money is going to
come from all over the country. For John Cornyn to
let plenty of money from outside sources. He will raise
some money in Texas, but my money is going to
have to come from the grassroots all over the country.
And I am convinced that we can raise enough. We
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don't have to outraise them. We just have to be
in the game of something two to one three to
run within that range. We can beat John Cornyn and
we can win this election. Where do people go, Kenpaxson
dot com and you can go donate right there and
start the start the momentum. Small contributions are or we
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want them because it shows support, It shows the difference
between me and him, because he will not be getting
those small contributions, not in any large volume.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Kenpaxton dot com. If you got five bucks, give it,
you got five hundred, give it. This is critically important.
I'm asking you to do it. How many times do
I do that?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I never do that. I'm doing it right now, mister
Attorney General. Thank you. I appreciate you. I'm very much
behind you. Go get him. We needed to win, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Now we have to talk well, remember Ryan Ralph, let's
have a talk here in a moment. Before we talk
about that, I need to tell you something. I have
to confess something to you. I'm in a terrible mood today.
Maybe you can already tell. Maybe you could tell from
the opening of the show. I'm just in a dreadful mood.
You know why, because I failed went to bed last night.
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I did not have my cup of hot chocolate with
dream powder in it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I told myself that I didn't feel like going to
the kitchen, and I was already in bed. I was comfortable,
I was warm. I have every excuse in the world.
And you know what I did. I laid there and
tossed and turned two three hours and then even still,
even still, I told myself I should get up and
make myself a cup of dream powder. And I didn't
do it. And now I'm angry and nasty all day.
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It's the lack of dream powder in my life. Do
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your life. Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly. We'll be back,
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all right. So there are a couple of things. There's
a kind of a good news bad news situation here.
The bad news is the last administration did some things,
a lot of bad things, a lot of evil things.
Some things are positively frightening, and in fact, we'll get
to one of those things in a moment.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The good news is there are some really.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Great red state ags out there now, a bench, if
you will, an inspiring group of people who actually have
guts to fight back against things. And of course, surprise, surprise,
Florida happens to be leading the charge on this like
they've been doing for years.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Joining me now.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
James Uthmeyer, ag Attorney General of the wonderful State of Florida. Okay,
James Ryan rauth was one hole ahead of Donald Trump
with a weapon, an optic body armor which he wasn't wearing,
which is kind of weird, getting ready to murder the
soon to be president of the United States of America.
What concerns me a great deal before we get to
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your portion of it, is the Biden administration's stonewall.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Do you want it?
Speaker 5 (24:46):
They did, Yes, I mean, our governor issued an executive
order right away directing our law enforcement to proceed with
our own state investigation because we were worried that the
radical Biden administration was not going to pursue justice, even
though you had a case of an assassination attempt, a
terrorist attack in our state on a Florida resident, on
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a former president and a popular presidential candidate. We feared
that they were not going to pursue justice, and indeed,
once we started that investigation, they stonewalled us. They wouldn't
give us access to the crime scene, they wouldn't give
us access to case files, they would not cooperate with
us in any way. So this investigation stalled because of
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Biden and the Dems for over two hundred and twenty days.
Well after ag Bondi and FBI Director Cash Pttel got
in there, everything changed. We started working together right away,
and we were excited to finally get the evidentiary a
basis to formally press charges.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Last week, James, I'm not going to ask you to
make wild accusations. Of course, I know you can't do
that and wouldn't do that anyway. I would do that,
but I'm not going to do that right now. So
perhaps you could give me in explanation, why any president, Democrat, Republican, anybody,
why would you stonewall Florida's attorney general from investigating somebody
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who was about to assassinate a politician in this country.
That's just doesn't seem to be a left or right thing.
That seems to be a very basic thing, unless, of course,
you wanted him to succeed.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
What's the innocent explanation.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
I don't know that there's a good explanation.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I think they made some allegations that they were worried
about us messing.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Up the investigation.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
But you know, as far as I can see, you know,
you had a couple hundred days go by and they
weren't doing anything. So, you know, justice should not be partisan.
It should not be based on what party is in charge.
Justice should be based on putting bad guys away. And
I don't care if there's a Democrat or Republican in
the White House. If you have a former president, a
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presidential candidate who someone is trying to kill, the justice
systems at the federal and state level should be working
closely together to ensure that justice is levied, and we
intend to do that again.
Speaker 9 (27:05):
You know, we press charges last week.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
We'll be bringing this case as swiftly as we can,
and we'd like to make sure that we see a
conviction in very good do time.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Okay, could you lay out for us the allegations, the
charges you're bringing.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
What did this guy do? What weapons did he have?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Specifically, what is this guy's story? We know we've heard
these internet rumors that the guy was overseas recruiting mercenarios.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
There's all kinds of wild things out there. What do
we actually know?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, well, you know, you've got really what should be
an open shutcase here. There's a lot of speculation, a
lot you know, related to the investigation.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
I cannot share today.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
We do have charging docs and evidence that will be
made public very very soon. But you got a guy
here who's been charged with with two main counts, attempted
murder as well as a terrorism a state terrorism charge.
There's also a separate state felony attempted murder because he
fled the scene, moved across counties into Martin County and
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actually collided with a family vehicle and unfortunately, a young
girl in that vehicle was paralyzed as a result of
the collision. So this is a bad guy, and you know,
we've brought several charges and you know, expect things to
move more quickly.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now, okay, let's uh, let's talk about working with the
current FBI versus the old one you mentioned cash Ptel.
What's that been like to have an FBI that actually helps.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
It's pretty refreshing, I tell you what. The FBI.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
You know, hearing those three letters used to kind of
give me the shivers because you weren't sure if you
were going to get anybody on the other end of
the phone that wanted to work with you. It seemed
very much like bureaucracy, not a bureau Today, it's been
very different. You've got somebody on the other line that
wants to investigate, that wants to move quickly. Obviously is
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going to follow the law and respect rule of law,
but at the end of the day, you know, work
to put bad people away.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Let's talk about red state attorney generals and their role
in this country. On a broader scale because we won't
always have Donald Trump lead in the country. We won't
have Cash Betel leading the FBI, and we saw what
can happen for four years under Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
What role does the age play? What role should the
age play?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yeah, you know, ags are on the front lines to
ensure that you've got safe streets, that our families are protected,
our children are safe, and that our citizens, you know.
Speaker 9 (29:39):
Have rule of law.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
AGS are here to make sure we don't have local
government officials that you know, want to be derelict of
their duties, that don't want to enforce the law. You know,
we've got some prosecutors in this state that from time
to time say they're not going to enforce categories of law.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
We've held them accountable everywhere we can.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
We've got a great govern who suspends them from office
if they if they do cross the line and violate
their constitutional duties. We've got other actions that we can
bring as well. On the immigration context, you know, ags
are on the front lines of ensuring we have sovereignty estates,
that we have borders, that we are protecting our citizens
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from the dangers that come when you've got you know,
undocumented individuals that move into the state, often associated with narcotics,
fentanyl trafficking.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
You know, very dangerous components.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
We're here to step up and ensure that we are
going to work with the federal government. We're going to
work with ICE to find people that don't belong here
and get them out of our state before they cause
serious harm.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
How do we handle things like prosecutorial discretion as it's
known in your world. You already mentioned the prosecutors. These
these prosecutors. It's not just a Florida things. Sadly, it's
across the United States of America. These prosecutors get into
office funded by i left wing money, and they just
let criminals.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Out of jail.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
They don't prosecute people, and it's left a lot of
people in this country pretty exasperated with the justice system.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Look, prosecutorial discretion, it was a big deal to the founders.
It's a key tenet of our you know, our legal
enforcement system. Prosecutorial discretion is important to our state attorneys
and prosecutors to give them flexibility to negotiate, to plea
things down ultimately to decide where to make priorities. You've
got never ending crimes out there, and we've got to
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figure out what is truly a priority. But at the
end of the day, you've got these leftist, radical Soros
prosecutors that decide they don't want to enforce the law
at all, and they do so in the name of
prosecutorial discretion. But that discretion that does not give you
the ability to, you know, delineate policies or broad categories
where you say you're not going to enforce certain laws.
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It doesn't give you the ability to tell your teams
we're not going to bring these cases.
Speaker 9 (31:59):
We're going to let dangerous.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
People out on bail who may end up and, as
we've seen in some jurisdictions, commit heinous crimes, commit murder
in the days that follow. That is not permissible. We're
not going to allow it in Florida. And I'm glad
to see that some other states are following our lead
and ensuring that these types of individuals do not get
to drop the ball and put the safety of families
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in danger.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Keep going, sir, All right, AI, Artificial intelligence, I know
it can get way confusing if you're like me. I
can barely work my phone, but it's really, really, really important.
What's happening out there right now and what the goals
of the people pushing it. What are those goals. We're
going to talk to Joe Allen about that in a moment.
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
We'll be back. Artificial intelligence is I don't get it,
but I know it matters.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And look, I have a very thirty thousand foot understanding
of it, but I know that it matters for business reasons,
for national security reasons.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
It's a really, really really big deal.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Hopefully, hopefully Joe can explain it in a little bit
more detail than that, are we falling behind? Have we
fallen behind? What's the future of all this? Joining me now?
Joe Allen, author of the book Dark Eon. Okay, Joe AI,
Where are we as a country versus China, versus Russia
(34:32):
versus the other places out there?
Speaker 10 (34:36):
Well, Jesse, Despite all of the mythology around it, I
think the US is ahead of everyone, including China. China's
catching up, but largely due to technology transfer and IP theft.
Other nations are also scrambling to catch up. There are
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a lot of operation in Israel, in Europe. Russia has programs.
They're not impressive so far as anyone knows. What we're
seeing in this AI race, though, it's definitely a scramble
to achieve some sort of human level intelligence that would
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almost immediately move beyond into superhuman levels of intelligence. Now,
I think there's every reason to be skeptical if that,
as to whether that is possible. But the drive itself,
the fact that we are seeing so much capital, so
much effort to rearrange the infrastructure to provide power for
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these systems that the people at the top of the
food chain, that being all the big tech guys from
Mark Zuckerberg to the guys at Google, to the guys
at Microsoft, Open Ai, Xai, on and on and on.
These guys believe that they are creating some sort of
godlike entity, and as Elon Musk noted yesterday, he said
(36:10):
this many times that the systems that they believe they're
building will be smarter than the smartest human on the planet,
and then in short order, be smarter than all humans
on the planet. It's ultimately a religious belief system, but
it's a religious belief system with very, very tangible evidence
(36:33):
that their anticipated miracles might actually come into existence.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Okay, so, Joe, I hate to ask you to dumb
down something you know so much more about than I do.
But I understand the concept of being able to gather
up all these facts, all these things from you know, everywhere,
and have a computer smart enough to compute them and
come up with answers for things and things like that.
But are we at the place where it can gather
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up all this information and then expand on it. Are
we already there or is that where they're trying to.
Speaker 10 (37:10):
Go Definitely not there, definitely trying to go there. You know,
it's been said that AI as it exists today, the
large language models and image generators, they're kind of like
a JPEG file in that they compress a lot of
data down into something that's very efficient and streamlined. You
(37:33):
also have a lot of problems with the hallucinations still,
so that you ask an AI something and it just
begins rambling on about non existent things with a kind
of air of authority, providing fake links, all of that.
But that's a minority of cases, and the majority of
cases it's somewhat accurate the dream, and no one knows
(37:54):
what the breakthrough will be exactly, but the dream is
that you would take all of that compressed data and
you would then have, as you just said, a system
that would be able to arrive at novel formulas in physics,
or be able to put together pieces of information to
arrive at a new engineering design, something like that. These
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systems right now rely on previous human contributions to knowledge
and they just make it easier to access. But it
should also be noted that CHAT GPT or Grock or
any of these systems that they do produce novel outputs
(38:36):
from that knowledge. In that sense, you could say that
they are doing something creative, you know, kind of like
a derivative artist or a derivative writer who just basically
weaves together things that other people have said, but does
so in a novel way.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Joe, what's Navidia And why are they spending five hundred
billion dollars?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
That's a lot of cheddar.
Speaker 10 (39:00):
Yeah, in Nvidia was really a kind of marginal company
until their graphics processing units, the chips that are necessary
to train these big AI systems. Those chips, when it
was discovered that they were very effective at training AI,
suddenly the company rocketed in value, their output, and their
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engineering designs became much more sophisticated due to that, and
so in Vidia kind of out of nowhere became one
of the largest tech companies in the world. And of
course they planned to open up operations now in Arizona
and in Texas to build a chip manufacturing plant and
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data centers. So they're going to be very very important.
And the reason that Trump and the investors in the
US are courting them, trying to bring them into the
US is that most, if not the vast majority, of
chips needed to train AI come from Taiwan, and you
(40:05):
see the tension there. For a long time, China has
been kind of threatening to move on Taiwan. If they
were to do so, that would leave at least for
a while, the US high and dry, and we would
have to scramble to come up with the manufacturing infrastructure
to build the chips ourselves. It's all part of this
AI race. It's kind of an arms race. It's again
(40:30):
it's positioned as if it's the US against China, and
it is. But I think that the more important arms
race is between US companies like Xai and Open Ai.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Shouldn't we be happy about that arms race between companies?
Doesn't that make the product better in the spirit of
capitalism and all that you know?
Speaker 10 (40:51):
On its face, sure, But if you look at the
statements from Elon Musk, from Sam Altman, from Eric Schmidt,
former Google CEO, and even the more skeptical types like
Jan Lucun at Meta AI, all of them foresee in
the very near future again that dream of artificial general intelligence,
(41:15):
a machine that can think better than any human being
on earth. And then eventually super intelligence machine that can
think better than all human beings on earth. The goal,
openly stated by all of these people and widely ignored,
is to create systems that will ultimately replace the economic
(41:37):
roles of every human being in the world, except for
those in control of the system. They openly talk about
replacing first all coders, then all white collar workers, and
then all blue collar workers with advanced robotics. And the
result for us, the rabble on the ground, is that
(42:00):
we're promised that this will lead to radical abundance and
we will all be able to get universal basic income
or universal high income, basically meaning we're all relegated to
being on welfare with no negotiating power whatsoever. Now, again,
this is a dream. We're moving towards something like that.
Whether that will happen or not, it's anyone's guess, and
(42:22):
many people are guessing and making a lot of money
from their guesses. But what I think is really important
to remember is that all of these people, the wealthiest
men on earth, are openly saying that they look forward
to a greater replacement. They want to see some at first,
(42:43):
and then all human labor just completely vaporized by automation.
Knowing that pretty much anything else that they might say,
you should understand that it is not necessarily you that
they're interested in and your benefits and your satisfaction in life.
(43:06):
What they're looking for is money. What they're looking for
is power, and they're willing to acquire these things at
the expense of basically every human being on earth. Doesn't
mean you have to believe that they will actually achieve it.
It's just the same as if communists said we are
going to take over your society, equalize all of the roles,
and provide the working class with a better life. Doesn't
(43:29):
mean they're going to do anything like that. You just
know that they are willing to completely restructure everything around
their ideology, and you also know historically that it's probably
not going to be in your benefit.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Joe, thank you, my brother.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I appreciate it. It's a crazy world. It's too light
in the mood. Next, all right, it's time to lighten
the mood. And I'm an Ohio State fan. I was
(44:09):
born in Ohio, lived there until I was ten. You
really didn't have any choice. Ohio State Buckeyes won the
national titles, showed up at the White House that's a
good thing. What was less good was JD. Vance, vice
President of the United States of America. He broke the
national championship trophy. JD was a good sport about it
(44:43):
in the end, though, all right, I'll see them all
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