Join host Jesse Kelly for a no-holds-barred deep dive into the culture war raging across America in 2025. In this explosive episode, Jesse unpacks the divisive issues that are reshaping society and driving a wedge between us. Jesse exposes the hidden forces, key players, and real-world consequences of this ongoing battle for American values. Discover what’s at stake and how you can navigate the chaos.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
We're going to talk about culture war now and what
we're seeing actually with all these riots across the country.
I was about to say in La but across the country, Seattle,
all over everywhere. What's going on in this country? How
is all this happening? So allow me to explain, because
(00:30):
actually Walmart are actually one of the Walmart heiresses.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Chrissy Walton.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
She provided maybe the most wonderful possible example.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Now, this woman is, by oh.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Any stretch, the elite of the elite, billionaire high society.
She hasn't flown commercial probably once in her entire life.
It's private planes and five star resorts and whatnot. And
she came up in a country, living in the wealth provide.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
By the country. Her family made it big.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The Walton family made it huge Walmart, they meant it
huge selling their goods in the United States of America.
Now they're all billionaires. I forgot what the number was
last time I looked how many billionaires. Now we're in
the Walton family, there's just billions and billions and billions
and billions and billions. Well, she takes an ad out,
a full page ad in the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Not cheap, by the way, but it's a pocket change
for her.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Takes an ad out calling for people to protest, essentially
rise up against Donald Trump. Now, this is what we're
going to focus on here for a few minutes. What
has happened? How did we get where we are? Why
are we turning on the television, looking on our phones
and we see a new riot every single day. Well,
(01:47):
it's actually not the bottom. It can be tempted because
those are the animals in the streets throwing bricks, lighting
things on fire, hurting people. It could be tempting to
look at the socioeconomic bottom of the societ and say
it's their fault.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And all.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Don't get me wrong, they're responsible, but it's not actually
their fault. Here's what happens in America. And here's why
the culture war is a war that is still ongoing
and will be ongoing. It's not that we lost the socioeconomic.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Bottom in general.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And remember, I want to clarify something if any of
this offends you, I don't care in general, the masses
the socioeconomic bottom. They will go where the money is.
They'll go essentially, for lack of a better word, where
they are led. They will go where they are led,
they will group up and they will seek out money,
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they will seek out guidance from people. It's the elites
in our country who have destroyed our country.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And how did that happen?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The education system. It all comes back to the education system.
See what happens is especially in wealthy circles. It's very,
very common in wealthy circles for the children of uber
wealthy people who made it, who really made it, the
children will turn out to be vicious comedies. Did you
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know historically how many communist leaders were rich kids.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's almost all of them. Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
They don't put that on the brochure When you read
about things like cha Lenin Now you think to yourself, well,
you know they were obviously peasants who rose up and
led the peasants in rebellion. That's almost never the case.
They were all rich kids, every single one of them.
Rich kids who grew up wealthy. And look, there's a
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million different psychological reasons we could probably dig into. But
instead of choosing to better the lives of others, maybe
it's the lack of challenges they had going up.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They seek out a.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Purpose, and the bad ones land on communism and they
see their purpose in life as leading the unwashed masses
in revolution against the very society that made them wealthy.
Bringing me back to America's elites, it goes well beyond
Chrissy Walton. You see, they took over the education system
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in this country. And most importantly, it's not that it's
not that lower education.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I'm talking about K through twelve.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's not that that's not important, But most importantly, they
took up, took over higher education and the elite higher education.
It's not just that they went to the local state school.
It's not just Louisiana State. They took over Harvard, Yale, Stamford.
And once they took over these elite institutions, I'm talking
(04:48):
to professors, all communists, administrators, all communists. They would bring
in all these children of privilege, and they would tell them,
you'd sit there day after day being lectured by this
filthy common professor. You have your privilege because you need
to burn America down. Why don't you lead?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And they led.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
They leave college, they get their inheritance, they get their
vast quantities of wealth, and instead of using it to
better the lives of others, to give back, even expand
their businesses. They use it to burn America down when
you talk about the riots. When we talk, we always
talk about communist street activism in this country, from La
to Seattle, wherever it may be happening right now. We
(05:31):
always talk about how it's paid for and organized, and
oftentimes it's paid for by you. The times it's not
paid for by the American taxpayer. It's paid for almost
universally by uber wealthy children of privilege and the ones
who don't flat out stroke a check to this riot
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group or that rio group.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Riot group.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
They have the legal know how because they all have
an army of lawyers and accountant to figure out, how
do I start a communist front group that'll do communist
activism without it coming back on me. Have you ever
wondered why we can't trace the source of the money
in so many of these instances. We have the ultimate
(06:18):
journalists now Internet sluice who go through documents and they'll
run into firewalls over and over and over again. Why
because uber wealthy people with one thousand dollars an hour
lawyers set up the nonprofits. The elites create these organizations,
who then have other organizations, who have other organizations. So
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they can funnel money theirs and taxpayer money to the
animals on the streets. And that's why palettes of bricks
show up almost on call as soon as they need
a riot, and the elites guide these riots, encourage these riots,
and a risk a billionaire taking out a full page
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article in the New York Times. Nancy Pelosi is powerful
as it gets, says things like this.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
When and I say this as a former party chair,
when there is a gathering, a large gathering of people,
the anarchists see it as an opportunity and they move in.
So always have to be careful whether you see a
burned car or broken window or whatever it is. It
may be the exuberance of the moment, but it may
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be the anarchist setting in. I heard one of the
former police chiefs of Los Angeles speak about this on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's Grandma Vodka, a couple shots in doing the best
she can. It's not democrats, If it's not our people,
then did these anarchist types Why do they do that?
Why do they make excuses for them? Why why do
they call for more action and act as if they're
part of the group, Like Christmas if he.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Did and Obviously, this is a moment where we have
to be on the streets all over the country to
protest what's happening to our immigrant community, but more broadly,
to protest what's happening to our democracy. This is the
most corrupt administration in the history of the country, and
we are going to rise to this moment by being
out there on the streets.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
United States Senators, the most corrupt administration ever. We have
to be in the streets. Get in the streets. He
mentioned the streets several times. We've got to get to
the streets. Chris Murphy's never been in the streets in
his life. But Chris Murphy understands he's leading a mob,
an angry, violent mob of street animals. Therefore he has
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to use the language of the angry, violent mob of
street animals. He knows in the end he's commanding an army,
for lack of a better way to put it, an
army of freaks.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
You could just knock again, and you're not going.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How is it the people protest that.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Doesn't There's nothing.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
I'm starting a black woman from going to work.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh no, you don't care about stopping black people from
going to work.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Look at this.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
I'm not pausing no problems, I'm not trying to We're
just shine for me.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You saw that drugged out lunatic right there, Oh what work?
You saw the lesbian beside him with their eyes bugged down,
lecturing somebody as always, well, these are the Democrat constituents.
These are the street animals. If you're asking, maybe you
were sitting there as we played that Nancy Pelosi and
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Chris Murphy. Maybe you're sitting there wondering, well, who would
listen to those two freaks? Who's going to heed the
call to take to the streets from these losers? Well,
those losers, As we've talked about one hundred times on
this show, there are two different divisions of communism, elite
communists scum and streak communists. Scum the streets get their
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orders from the elites. The elites give those orders, and
they send out the army of animals to go do
their bidding. That's why we are where we are. And
before we wrap this up, I want to give credit
where credit is due. Donald Trump has taken a lot
of flak in the past for lacking humility in places
(10:41):
where he screwed up. Look, I've given him crap in
the past, COVID, all that other stuff where he doesn't
seem like he's going to own the mistake. Donald Trump
is deploying the National Guard, He's sending in the Marines,
and Donald Trump sounds like a man who has learned.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And you have to remember, I've been here before, and
I went right by every rule, and I waited for
governors to say send in the national Guard.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
They wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
They wouldn't do it, and they just wouldn't do it.
They kept going on and on got worse and worse,
and in Minneapolis, that city was burning down seven days
and I said, I don't care. This guy wouldn't call
the national Guard. And we ultimately just sent in the
national Guard. We stopped it, but that was after seven days.
And I said to myself, if that stuff happens again,
(11:30):
we've got to make faster decisions. Because they don't want
to do it, the radical left. It's usually radical left,
and it's usually governors that are Democrat, and they don't
want to call them in. They don't want to save lives,
they don't want to save property, they don't want to
call them in. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Good for Donald Trump. Good for him for cracking down immediately.
We have quite a war ahead of it. All right.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
Talk more culture war stuff, maybe some riot stuff with
Bill Jacobson.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Next.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I love sleeping. It's always been one of my favorite activities.
I'm just lazy like that. I enjoy sleeping. I take naps,
I sleep eight nine hours a night. But I will
admit this, as you get older, it gets more challenging. Okay,
you know everything that day is going to come for you,
but then you wake up because your shoulder hurts. It
never happens when you're fifteen. That's where dream powder comes in.
(12:33):
It's natural. It's a cup of hot chocolate, but there's
a bunch of special things in there, like melatonin and
rasiet and magnesium and things that have you drifting off
to sleep. You sip a cup of hot chocolate before bed,
You go to bed, drift off to sleep, and when
you wake up, it's like you didn't take anything at all.
(12:54):
You just slept all the way through the night. No
getting up with the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You got a peek. None of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You want some go to shotbeam Dot com slash Jesse Kelly,
sleep like a baby and save a fortune while you
do it. As we've discussed many times before on this
show that mass importation of foreigners by virtually every Western leader.
(13:23):
Don't think this is only an American problem, But we'll
focus on us because that's what I care about. Mass
importation of foreigners is not something that happens accidentally, and
it doesn't happen because your liberal am Peggy just has
a big heart. It is a very focused effort to
fill up your country with people who will, at the
drop of a hat, burn down Los Angeles. That's why
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we're seeing what we're seeing. And this has been done
to us on purpose by the Democrat Party. Bill Jacobson's
all kinds of fired up about all this stuff, joining
me now, Founder of Legal Insurrection and Cornell University law
professor Bill Jacobson. Bill, Look, I mean, it's not like
an LA riot is some new thing. Those of us
who've been alive longer than fifteen minutes have seen it.
(14:06):
But the waving of the Mexican flags, they're throwing things
at cops, that just chaps me.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Well, this is, in a sense, the sum of all
our fears that by bringing in tens of millions, and
how many tens of millions. We don't know foreigners illegally
into the country. We don't even know who these people are.
We all saw the lines of military age solo men
crossing the Mexican border under Joe Biden being welcomed into
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the country and bust into the interior. When you do that,
you are removing a fundamental aspect of sovereignty. The key
aspect of sovereignty for any country is whether you can
control your borders, whether you can control who comes into
the country, and if you don't have a border. And
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I'm going to paraphrase Donald Trump from twenty fifteen. I
was just looking at this the other day. Fifteen. He
gave a speech in Phoenix during his campaign and said,
if we don't have a border, we don't have a country.
And that's really what it is. What the fight is
going on is not over a particular piece of block
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in LA. It's over whether we have a country. And
the Democrats and the governor of California don't want us
to have a country. They wanted to be a free
for all, and mostly the Republicans and the Trump administration
want us to have a country, and that's what this
fight is over. This is not just about some esoteric
(15:35):
notion of immigration law. This is very much about whether
we are a sovereign nation anymore or not.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Bill. I'm going to ask a question that I don't
want to ask because I'm afraid of your answer. But
do we have a country still? A unified fifty states
United States? Look, it's not as if I don't know
there are going to be differences in parties. Are all
difference than some political parties. But when you have blue states,
blue areas, including our largest most powerful state, California, that
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have declared themselves to be a haven for foreign criminals,
do we still have a country?
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Well, I think we do have a country, but it's
on the precipice. I mean, I think we have to
acknowledge that. And it's been something that's been building for
thirty years. If you look at what they've done to
the education system, where students from kindergarten are indoctrinated into
believing we are uniquely evil in the world. The United
States is uniquely evil in the world. When you bring
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in people from countries who are hostile to us, when
you do all of these things. You're trying to tear
apart the country. If you wanted to destroy the United States,
what would you do differently than the left has done
for thirty to forty years? So do we have a country?
We still do because we currently have an administration that's
committed to it. But if Kamala Harris had been the president,
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I don't think we would. We could not stand four
more years of a Biden administration flying people into our country.
Half a million people from South and Central America we're
flown here by the Biden administration, completely open borders where
people are busted to the interior. So do we have
a country? Yeah, But we're hanging on by our fingernails.
(17:24):
And the next two to three years is going to
determine what the future country is to a much greater
extent than I think anybody predicted. Illegal immigration has been
a hot topic for as long as I can remember,
but it went into hyper drive under the Biden administration.
It became destructive to an extent we've never seen before.
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I mean, and they're fighting it even now. They're fighting Democrats,
Senators like that guy from Maryland van Holland are fighting
to keep criminals in the country, fight to prevent the
Trump administration from deporting people who have been convicted or
incredibly accused of crimes and who are here illegally. So, yeah,
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we have a country, but we can't take it for granted.
Whether the Trump administration is successful or not in its
immigration push will determine the future of this country.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Bill, what can look everyone's talking about the marines being
sent in here and marines being sent in there. I
realize there are legal things you can do as president,
especially when it comes to the military, and.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Things you cannot do.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So that's your area, most definitely not mine. What can
you do? Can you just send the marines into the streets?
What can you do?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Well, you certainly can do what Trump has done so far,
which is federalized the National Guard, and you can send
in the military to protect federal assets and federal personnel.
You can't have the military engage in routine policing, routine
policy enforcement, things like that. But he has the authority
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to do what he did very clearly by statute, and
it's inherent in the executive power under Article two to
make sure that the laws are faithfully executed, and he
has the right to protect federal property and to protect
civil rights and things like that. He can't start running
LA not that he would want to. He can't impose
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a military administration on the city of Los Angeles and
run it day to day, but he sure can protect
federal assets and ICE members from being lynched by mobs
running rampant in the street.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Okay, as far as the immigration deportation efforts go, you
just mentioned how critical it is, and obviously I agree
with you one hundred percent. Where is the Supreme Court
and all this to say, they've been disappointing over the
first six months of Trump's presidency. We'll be putting it
unbelievably mild. But where are they in.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
All this, Well, they haven't really been anywhere so far.
They have issued a couple of preliminary rulings and stay
rulings on specific individuals when Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act,
but that's not really what's at stake in Los Angeles.
So the Supreme courts weighed in a little bit, but
they may be coming up upon the biggest decision I
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believe that they'll ever have to make. If a district
court judge in San Francisco grants the state of California's
request to issue an injunction against Donald Trump nationalizing the
National Guard and sending in troops to protect federal assets.
If the judge does that, there's going to be a
real crisis here, and I would expect the Supreme Court
(20:47):
to step in. I'm not convinced the judge is going
to do this. Oddly enough, we have if you had
to pick a judge in San Francisco, you probably got
one who is more on the more moderate side. He's
actually kind of interesting quirk here. He's the brother of
former Supreme Court Justice Stephen Bryer. So Judge Brier in
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the District Court in San Francisco is the brother of
the former Supreme Court justice. He's not known. I don't
know him very well, but from what I've read, he's
not known for being one of the judges we worry about.
And he didn't do what they wanted. They wanted one
of these emergency orders like they've gotten in many places
around the country without a basis. They wanted him on
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an hour's notice to issue the injunction, and he wouldn't
do it. He said, I'm going to give the government
time to put in their papers. They just put in
their papers about ten minutes ago, and he's going to
hold a hearing. He's doing it the way judges should
be doing things, not the way judges in many places
have been doing things. So where is the Supreme Court?
They're going to have to get involved. If a judge
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enjoins the President of the United States, or i should say,
the executive branch of the United States from exercising their
control over the military, that would be a very serious
and unprecedented, you know, circumstance. And then we'll find out
where the Supreme Court is on all these things.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Where are we out on birthright citizenship?
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Well, that's going to be coming up soon for decision
by the Supreme Court. And I don't know how they're
going to rule. My gut tells me they're going to
not rock the boat. They are not going to want
another situation like they encountered after they rejected gro Vy Wade,
where lunatics are literally at their doorstep with guns incited
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by Democrats, where their homes are protested. So I don't
know if they're going to have the guts to rule
what I believe is probably the right way. There is
a very good argument that the way we have treated
birthright citizenship, that any woman who sets foot on our
territory and then gives birth that child is a citizen.
Even if the woman's here legally, even if she's here temporarily,
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even if she's passing through changing planes at LAX, that
person is now a citizen. I don't think that's the
history of the fourteenth Amendment. And I don't know though,
if the Court will have the guts to make that ruling,
but we're going to find out. That would be the
single biggest ruling to solve our immigration problem. If citizenship
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were to be denied to people who merely, by circumstance,
happened to be born on our territory, that would remove
a lot of the incentive that the Democrats have to
allow in unfettered illegal immigration, because remember, even if they're
the immigrants, the illegal immigrants themselves do not become citizens.
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Their children do, so that is part of the Democrat goal.
I'm old enough to remember when the Democrats were touting
the concept that demography is destiny, and they viewed demography
as favoring them, and they encouraged it. So I think
the Supreme Court, I hope they have the guts to
do it. I don't think they will, but I hope
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they have the guts to rule that birthright citizenship is
not the way it's been handled the last century, and
that that would have a huge impact on the incentives
people have to come to this country.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Cause things On college campus, we're getting better on college
campus anywhere.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
I think in many ways we are. On the surface
this past year, the encampments and the other you know,
hooliganism were much more tame than a year ago. But
I don't think that is anything more than a superficial change.
I don't think the ideologically ideological corruption of our campuses
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has changed. That's too deeply embedded. That's a generational effort,
or at least it's a multi year effort. The first
thing they did on most campuses, not all of them,
but on most campuses was clamped down on the hooliganism
and clamp down on the intimidation that was taking place
on campuses. Superficially, most campuses are better than they were
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a year ago. But unless we change the culture on campuses,
unless we change the faculty on campuses, unless we get
the faculty on campuses back to where they were thirty
or forty years ago. Thirty or forty years ago, professors
identified roughly sixty forty liberal to conservative, which it makes sense.
Academia has always leaned left. Now the latest statistics are
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it's almost thirty to one liberal to conservative. The campuses
have been completely purged of conservatives, or almost completely purged
of conservatives. Those who are still there, like me, are
hanging on, but they're not getting hired, so through attrition
through lack of hiring, there's been a purge of conservatives,
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and this is relevant to what's been happening on the campuses.
There's also been a purge of pro Israel faculty. It
is close to impossible to get hired in the humanities
and social sciences if you are either openly conservative or
openly pro Israel, and therefore the universities cannot reform themselves.
This is the point I make all the time. They
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cannot reform themselves because there is no internal opposition left
on campuses. They have been purged through either firing or
more likely through not hiring, and therefore outside pressure. The
sort of pressure the Trump administration is bringing is the
only way anything is going to change. There's no guarantee
that will change things. But you cannot say, oh, Harvard
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will cure itself, No it won't. You can't say that
Cornell or Columbia or any of these places will reform
themselves with outside pressure. They won't because it's a monoculture.
And that's something that we've got to address.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Thank you as always, I appreciate you. All right, let's
speak of a culture dudes beating up women in sports.
Riley Gaines has thoughts next. I don't know that there's
a more appropriate thing to talk about than Pure Talk
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as long as we're discussing patriotism here, because you know
what mac V soag is right.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
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Speaker 1 (27:22):
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They went and dropped them behind the lines, highest casualty.
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They died and droves, actually the majority of them died.
They dropped them behind the lines where they fought in
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Speaker 2 (28:16):
You know what's wild.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
The dudes playing against women in sports things. It's been
around for a while. I mean, we've been harping about
it for a few years now, as we watched woman
after women get beat up.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Lose out on titles, things like that.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
But now it feels like the tide has shifted, doesn't it,
At least in my circles, at least from what I
can see in the media, it feels like.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
The tide has shifted.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
However, there are still dudes beating up women in sports,
taking their titles in sports, and there are still people
who are so isolated in whatever weirdo freak bubble they're in.
They're still defending the practice as if we all can't
see what is happening out there anyway. Riley Gaines knows
a touch more about this than I do, because she
(29:01):
was one of those women joining me now host of
the Gains for Girls podcast on OutKick dot Com, which
of course we love here, Ridley Gains Riley, what happened
with you and Simone Biles? When I was a kid,
America's gymnasts were America's sweethearts. They were on cover the
wheaties boxes. And now there are a bunch of training lovers.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
That's what has been made very very clear over this
past weekend, jesse Man, I was so shocked. I'll walk
you through how I found out about this. I was
sitting at home on Friday evening. Typically I'm on the road,
so I was so excited to be home relaxing weekend
with my husband, with my dogs, with my horse. Friday evening,
(29:42):
I get this notification on my phone from exits has
Simone Biles tagged you and mentioned you in a comment.
I was like ecstatic at the thought of this, because
this is a woman I've looked up to for so long.
I click on the notification and I had to read
it several times, go back and forth the profile to
make sure this was the real Simone Biles who had
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just called me a truly sick bully and a sore
loser and compared my stature to that of a man
in these tweets. I was so shocked. But that's the
way the cookie crumbled. I guess Simone Biles, I think
very quickly realized that we're not living in the year
twenty twenty anymore. We are living in the year twenty
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twenty five. She did not receive a very welcomed reception
based on these comments, and since then she has now
issued an apology. Took her several days to do such,
but nonetheless she apologized for getting personal with me. Went
on to say, look, I don't want men and women's sports,
and for that stance, she's now receiving a lot of
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pushback from both sides of the ale Jesse. But that's
what happens when you sit.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
On the fence, Riley, I'm not an athlete, you are.
How much pressure are athletes under today, especially female athletes
to go along with this stuff? I remember all the
Upen stuff, which was horrible and out. We have brave
people like Paula Scanlon coming out and talking about it,
but female athletes face a lot of pressure to just
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shut up and go along with it and change in
front of a dude, don't you.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
An immense amount of pressure both from your whether it's
internalized pressure, number one, or from your coaching staff, from
your athletic director, from the sports organization itself, from your sponsorships.
I would imagine that was the large part of what
Simone was dealing with. She's sponsored by very large companies,
corporate companies, things like Athleta for example. But again the
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response that she received, maybe this will be a large
part in turning some of that around Athleta. There was
this big boycott movement this week where people said, look,
I'm not spending my money on Athleta. This is a
company that sponsors someone who bodies shames other women. So
we will see what if any of that shifts public
opinion here, or more so shifts what we are seeing
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in terms of pressure being put on these female athletes
from corporations specifically. I'll be interested to see that, but
it is a lot of pressure them and are under
all while the leaders at the top are just glad
it's not them. They're glad that they're not the ones
getting publicly humiliated or publicly receiving these negative comments, leaving
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two women to cap fight for I think sixty plus
million people saw her tweet. They're just thrilled it's not them.
In hot seat.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I've done a lot of dumb things in my life. Thankfully,
sixty million people never actually watched me do or say
any of those things. Okay, are you suing the NCIA,
I am.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
I'm suing the nc DOUBLEA myself and about nineteen other plaintiffs,
nineteen other athletes who have been impacted at the hands
of the nc DOUBLEA, and they're discriminatory, regressive policies. This is,
of course following that National Championships where they put a
man in the pool with us and a man in
our locker room, all while reprimanding us if we even
dared to question it. But it's not just swimmers. We
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have golfers, we have tennis players, We have volleyball players
on this suit as well. So very excited to see
where this goes, to see the outcome of this. Just
received some good news that will hopefully be made public
surrounding the lawsuits soon. But I believe these leaders need
to be held accountable. As I was just alluding to,
it's ultimately the leaders who are creating and enforcing these policies. Therefore,
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they are the ones who should be held responsible. It
should be their feet that are being put to the fire,
and I'm proud to be one of many who is
involved in this effort.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Riley, I think we're going to look back on this
time and just be mortified at what we allow to happen.
And I know right now there are a lot of
parents with young ladies who are in sports and they
don't know what to do because they're in these jurisdictions.
Your daughter goes out there, she busts her bud early
morning practices, You're driving eight hours at these miserable soccer tournaments,
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putting all this time and effort in, and then they
don't know what to do when she gets into a
competition like that California track meet where that dude just
won a couple titles. Do you pull her out? Do
you boycott the whole thing? What would you advise parents
to do if it's their baby girl who put in
the work and now it's being destroyed.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Yeah, that's the impossible question. What do you do?
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Right?
Speaker 8 (34:28):
It's tragic that the onus is placed on these young
girls that they're left in this decision. Do I not
get on the podium, do I not compete? Do I
just go along with it? It's my last meet ever?
And I think back to when I was in that position.
Granted it was three years ago, which was a very
different climate back then, but I wasn't willing to not compete.
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Had I known, or had I not been so naive,
I'll say to the trajectory of where we were going
at the time, I wouldn't have gotten in that pool
that day, because, guess what, by me participating in the farce,
I was just as guilty as the people again who
were creating and enforcing these policies. It's a movement that
we've dubbed Project Boycott, with emphasis on the word boy
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of girls taking a stand, being willing to do the
hard thing right, but helping them understand also in the
process being able to provide the resources and guidance that
some things matter more than victory. One of those things
being the idea that there is reality. Reality matters, that
there is an objective truth, that your safety is more
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important than any sort of victory. We've talked to many
girls in the sport of volleyball, and we've actually there
were five Mountain West Conference teams into a Division one
teams that forfeited their game against San Jose State University
last year. A team that had a man as their
star player. So in that scenario, you have to worry
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about getting hit in the face with a volleyball coming
at you one hundred miles an hour. It's a situation
that no girl wants to be in. But your question
was specifically to the parents. Goodness, gracious, parents, defend your kids.
I have been. There's lots of fingers to point. You
can point a finger at the NCAA. You can point
a finger at the Biden administration for the regressive policies
that ultimately allowed us to be where we are. But
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I think there's a finger that needs to be pointed
back at the parents, especially actually the dads. Where in
the world have you been defend your kids? I can't
believe it even has to be said. I have parents
who reach out to me all the time, who say,
this is happening to my daughter. We live here in
this school district, but I can't say anything because I
work a corporate job. Can you do something about it?
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And it breaks my heart when I get a message
like this, because of course I will. It's what I've
built my platform, and it's what I care so deeply
and so passionately about I will do whatever I can,
But do I have to care more about your kid
than you do? So parents, defend your kids. They're in desperate,
desperate need of it.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Riley appreciate you I met.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So let's talk to a former NFL player, turn Pastor.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Next. I missed the NFL.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I miss I miss watching sports. I'm a dude. I
grew up in Ohio and Montana watching sports with my buddies.
We get home after practice, we turn on ESPN and
I haven't turned on ESPN in ages. I miss being
able to just watch athletes. We never cared what race, religion,
We didn't care what their politics were. We just wanted
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to see these athletes perform. And that's all it used
to be. And I try to explain this to my
sons that it didn't used to be like it is now,
and then they look at me like I'm an alien
from another planet.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It's the only world they've ever known.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
It breaks my heart joining me now, Pastor Paul Blair,
founder of Liberty Pastors Network and former NFL player, Pastor,
I hate now that I have to tune into the
NFL and in between pharmaceutical commercials, there's end racism painted
in the When did this happen? Why did this happen?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Well, sadly, we just let our guard down and it
just erode in through the years. You know, when I
was a ballplayer, whether it be in college or in
the pros, and we weren't the Mexican Chicago Bears and
the Black Chicago Bears and the white Chicago Bears. When
we came out on the field, we all wore one uniform,
one name on the front. We had different names on
the back, but we were the Chicago Bears, and your
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ethnicity or your economic background made no difference. I mean,
it's truly in a way of free market. Those guys
that were the most talented at their particular position wound
up earning a job. You had to beat your best
every day in order to keep that job. And you know,
as a team, you wanted to put your best product
on the field. But it was a team sport. You know,
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you were there to represent your city, you were there
to represent your fans, and quite frankly, you're on the field,
they're standing shoulder and shoulder with your with your teammates,
and you just do anything in the world to try to,
you know, make sure not let any of those down.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It changed because we let our guard down.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And I agree with you on that, but what should
we what should we have done? I just I watched
it happen and it was like it was almost all
at once. And I know it wasn't all at once.
I know that's naive, but it was like one day
you woke up and the NFL was gay, and what
did that happen? When did that happen?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
It's like it came at us all at once, but
it didn't. Right.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
If you look at the there were forty five points
of the communist gold and takeover America, And if you
look at it, you know this has been around for
sixty plus years. And it wasn't by using bullets and
overpowering us. They knew that couldn't happen, But it was
to erode us morally and in our educational system. Our
seminaries were infiltrated, and we now have pastors that are
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woke and quite frankly cowards. They aren't bulldog watch dogs
of their flocks. And we had always gone to you know,
we've gone public education. I was product of a public
school system. But when I was in school you know,
we were taught facts, we were taught reading, writing, arithmetic,
phonics clients. Most of us just assumed that that was
still going on in the school system. However, you know,
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over the last twenty thirty years, they were stopping. They
weren't educating our children, they were indocunating our children. And
then you have a whole generation of people that are
now adults that don't think rashly, or don't think logically,
have no critical thinking skills. You know, I never thought
we'd been an age where we had to define how
many genders there were. I mean, that's been quite obvious
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for six thousand years. It's obvious biologically either x X
or x Y. You know, having been in many locker
rooms and lived a life of sixty two years, there's
two genders. I can guarantee it. And for people to
try to add to that, well, those investment are older,
that's insane. Sadly, the younger generation has just accepted this insanity.
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When we live in the twilight zone and we're finding
to take it back, do.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
You think no, I realized it's just the beginning, but
do you think we are starting to take it back?
And I asked that question. For this reason, Pastor, I'm
seeing more athletes openly one refuse the pride stuff, openly
talk about Jesus. I don't even remember that from my youth.
I'm seeing that pop up more and more. Now, are
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we finally have we reached the bottom for part of
the pun.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Or really too? And what's said is actually it's sad
for my generation, but encouraging for the future because the
Gen Z kids are far more conservative than they have
a greater draw to get back to orthodoxy in Christianity.
You know, the seeker friendly movement was one of the
things that let Christianity down quite frankly fundamentally. But this
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youngest generation, it's more conservative than the Baby Boomers, of
which I'm at the tail end of, and the millennials,
And quite frankly, I think the left just overplayed their
hand these last five or six or seven years. I mean,
we didn't go with an argument over even reasonable things.
I mean we stepped straight into the twilight zone. When
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you have people dressing up like animals and demanding that
they be referred to as a furry or some sort
of animal creature, and when we have parents taking their
children into permanently altering their bodies physically and destroying them emostly.
That's something that was so outside the realm of possibility
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even ten twelve years ago, you never even saw it coming.
In Barack Obama, the first community organizer that I ever
heard of, was elected president. Everyone was very dogmatic that
marriage was between one man and one woman. Even when
he ran for reelection in twenty twelve, he campaigned on
the idea that marriage was one man and one woman.
Of course, we know he was lying now looking back
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at it. But once that fail, once that domino failed,
it seemed that everything else just has fallen very rapidly,
a lot faster than I thought. And I think the
young people have finally just reached the point where they
recognize how insane this is and they're not going to
put up with it anymore. Hopefully the older generation will join.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Them, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Young people might just end up saving us. Pastor appreciate
you very much, sir Tony Man, He's not wrong these
young kids. I see it around my kids, and I
know you're thinking it's because they're my kids, they're friends.
I didn't raise those kids, and they are hardcore. I
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have some hope when it comes to the next generation.
I have some hope that they're waking up anyway. That's
two final thoughts.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Culture war matters a lot. We are not an economic
zone as a country. We are a nation. We should
protect our culture. We're watching it right now all across
the television set. Culture matters a lot. And when you
let that go, when you ignore that aspect of it,
you end up with a country full of animals who
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want to tear it apart. But we can get it back.
We just have to fight for it. That's all it's
going to take. Fighting for it, all right, We'll do
it again.
We're going to talk about culture war now and what
we're seeing actually with all these riots across the country.
I was about to say in La but across the country, Seattle,
all over everywhere. What's going on in this country? How
is all this happening? So allow me to explain, because
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actually Walmart are actually one of the Walmart heiresses.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Chrissy Walton.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
She provided maybe the most wonderful possible example.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Now, this woman is, by oh.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Any stretch, the elite of the elite, billionaire high society.
She hasn't flown commercial probably once in her entire life.
It's private planes and five star resorts and whatnot. And
she came up in a country, living in the wealth provide.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
By the country. Her family made it big.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The Walton family made it huge Walmart, they meant it
huge selling their goods in the United States of America.
Now they're all billionaires. I forgot what the number was
last time I looked how many billionaires. Now we're in
the Walton family, there's just billions and billions and billions
and billions and billions. Well, she takes an ad out,
a full page ad in the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Not cheap, by the way, but it's a pocket change
for her.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Takes an ad out calling for people to protest, essentially
rise up against Donald Trump. Now, this is what we're
going to focus on here for a few minutes. What
has happened? How did we get where we are? Why
are we turning on the television, looking on our phones
and we see a new riot every single day. Well,
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it's actually not the bottom. It can be tempted because
those are the animals in the streets throwing bricks, lighting
things on fire, hurting people. It could be tempting to
look at the socioeconomic bottom of the societ and say
it's their fault.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And all.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Don't get me wrong, they're responsible, but it's not actually
their fault. Here's what happens in America. And here's why
the culture war is a war that is still ongoing
and will be ongoing. It's not that we lost the socioeconomic.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Bottom in general.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And remember, I want to clarify something if any of
this offends you, I don't care in general, the masses
the socioeconomic bottom. They will go where the money is.
They'll go essentially, for lack of a better word, where
they are led. They will go where they are led,
they will group up and they will seek out money,
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they will seek out guidance from people. It's the elites
in our country who have destroyed our country.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And how did that happen?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The education system. It all comes back to the education system.
See what happens is especially in wealthy circles. It's very,
very common in wealthy circles for the children of uber
wealthy people who made it, who really made it, the
children will turn out to be vicious comedies. Did you
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know historically how many communist leaders were rich kids.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's almost all of them. Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
They don't put that on the brochure When you read
about things like cha Lenin Now you think to yourself, well,
you know they were obviously peasants who rose up and
led the peasants in rebellion. That's almost never the case.
They were all rich kids, every single one of them.
Rich kids who grew up wealthy. And look, there's a
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million different psychological reasons we could probably dig into. But
instead of choosing to better the lives of others, maybe
it's the lack of challenges they had going up.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They seek out a.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Purpose, and the bad ones land on communism and they
see their purpose in life as leading the unwashed masses
in revolution against the very society that made them wealthy.
Bringing me back to America's elites, it goes well beyond
Chrissy Walton. You see, they took over the education system
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in this country. And most importantly, it's not that it's
not that lower education.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I'm talking about K through twelve.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's not that that's not important, But most importantly, they
took up, took over higher education and the elite higher education.
It's not just that they went to the local state school.
It's not just Louisiana State. They took over Harvard, Yale, Stamford.
And once they took over these elite institutions, I'm talking
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to professors, all communists, administrators, all communists. They would bring
in all these children of privilege, and they would tell them,
you'd sit there day after day being lectured by this
filthy common professor. You have your privilege because you need
to burn America down. Why don't you lead?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And they led.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
They leave college, they get their inheritance, they get their
vast quantities of wealth, and instead of using it to
better the lives of others, to give back, even expand
their businesses. They use it to burn America down when
you talk about the riots. When we talk, we always
talk about communist street activism in this country, from La
to Seattle, wherever it may be happening right now. We
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always talk about how it's paid for and organized, and
oftentimes it's paid for by you. The times it's not
paid for by the American taxpayer. It's paid for almost
universally by uber wealthy children of privilege and the ones
who don't flat out stroke a check to this riot
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group or that rio group.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Riot group.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
They have the legal know how because they all have
an army of lawyers and accountant to figure out, how
do I start a communist front group that'll do communist
activism without it coming back on me. Have you ever
wondered why we can't trace the source of the money
in so many of these instances. We have the ultimate
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journalists now Internet sluice who go through documents and they'll
run into firewalls over and over and over again. Why
because uber wealthy people with one thousand dollars an hour
lawyers set up the nonprofits. The elites create these organizations,
who then have other organizations, who have other organizations. So
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they can funnel money theirs and taxpayer money to the
animals on the streets. And that's why palettes of bricks
show up almost on call as soon as they need
a riot, and the elites guide these riots, encourage these riots,
and a risk a billionaire taking out a full page
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article in the New York Times. Nancy Pelosi is powerful
as it gets, says things like this.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
When and I say this as a former party chair,
when there is a gathering, a large gathering of people,
the anarchists see it as an opportunity and they move in.
So always have to be careful whether you see a
burned car or broken window or whatever it is. It
may be the exuberance of the moment, but it may
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be the anarchist setting in. I heard one of the
former police chiefs of Los Angeles speak about this on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's Grandma Vodka, a couple shots in doing the best
she can. It's not democrats, If it's not our people,
then did these anarchist types Why do they do that?
Why do they make excuses for them? Why why do
they call for more action and act as if they're
part of the group, Like Christmas if he.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Did and Obviously, this is a moment where we have
to be on the streets all over the country to
protest what's happening to our immigrant community, but more broadly,
to protest what's happening to our democracy. This is the
most corrupt administration in the history of the country, and
we are going to rise to this moment by being
out there on the streets.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
United States Senators, the most corrupt administration ever. We have
to be in the streets. Get in the streets. He
mentioned the streets several times. We've got to get to
the streets. Chris Murphy's never been in the streets in
his life. But Chris Murphy understands he's leading a mob,
an angry, violent mob of street animals. Therefore he has
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to use the language of the angry, violent mob of
street animals. He knows in the end he's commanding an army,
for lack of a better way to put it, an
army of freaks.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
You could just knock again, and you're not going.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How is it the people protest that.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Doesn't There's nothing.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
I'm starting a black woman from going to work.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh no, you don't care about stopping black people from
going to work.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Look at this.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
I'm not pausing no problems, I'm not trying to We're
just shine for me.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You saw that drugged out lunatic right there, Oh what work?
You saw the lesbian beside him with their eyes bugged down,
lecturing somebody as always, well, these are the Democrat constituents.
These are the street animals. If you're asking, maybe you
were sitting there as we played that Nancy Pelosi and
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Chris Murphy. Maybe you're sitting there wondering, well, who would
listen to those two freaks? Who's going to heed the
call to take to the streets from these losers? Well,
those losers, As we've talked about one hundred times on
this show, there are two different divisions of communism, elite
communists scum and streak communists. Scum the streets get their
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orders from the elites. The elites give those orders, and
they send out the army of animals to go do
their bidding. That's why we are where we are. And
before we wrap this up, I want to give credit
where credit is due. Donald Trump has taken a lot
of flak in the past for lacking humility in places
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where he screwed up. Look, I've given him crap in
the past, COVID, all that other stuff where he doesn't
seem like he's going to own the mistake. Donald Trump
is deploying the National Guard, He's sending in the Marines,
and Donald Trump sounds like a man who has learned.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And you have to remember, I've been here before, and
I went right by every rule, and I waited for
governors to say send in the national Guard.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
They wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
They wouldn't do it, and they just wouldn't do it.
They kept going on and on got worse and worse,
and in Minneapolis, that city was burning down seven days
and I said, I don't care. This guy wouldn't call
the national Guard. And we ultimately just sent in the
national Guard. We stopped it, but that was after seven days.
And I said to myself, if that stuff happens again,
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we've got to make faster decisions. Because they don't want
to do it, the radical left. It's usually radical left,
and it's usually governors that are Democrat, and they don't
want to call them in. They don't want to save lives,
they don't want to save property, they don't want to
call them in. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Good for Donald Trump. Good for him for cracking down immediately.
We have quite a war ahead of it. All right.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
Talk more culture war stuff, maybe some riot stuff with
Bill Jacobson.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Next.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I love sleeping. It's always been one of my favorite activities.
I'm just lazy like that. I enjoy sleeping. I take naps,
I sleep eight nine hours a night. But I will
admit this, as you get older, it gets more challenging. Okay,
you know everything that day is going to come for you,
but then you wake up because your shoulder hurts. It
never happens when you're fifteen. That's where dream powder comes in.
(12:33):
It's natural. It's a cup of hot chocolate, but there's
a bunch of special things in there, like melatonin and
rasiet and magnesium and things that have you drifting off
to sleep. You sip a cup of hot chocolate before bed,
You go to bed, drift off to sleep, and when
you wake up, it's like you didn't take anything at all.
(12:54):
You just slept all the way through the night. No
getting up with the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You got a peek. None of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You want some go to shotbeam Dot com slash Jesse Kelly,
sleep like a baby and save a fortune while you
do it. As we've discussed many times before on this
show that mass importation of foreigners by virtually every Western leader.
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Don't think this is only an American problem, But we'll
focus on us because that's what I care about. Mass
importation of foreigners is not something that happens accidentally, and
it doesn't happen because your liberal am Peggy just has
a big heart. It is a very focused effort to
fill up your country with people who will, at the
drop of a hat, burn down Los Angeles. That's why
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we're seeing what we're seeing. And this has been done
to us on purpose by the Democrat Party. Bill Jacobson's
all kinds of fired up about all this stuff, joining
me now, Founder of Legal Insurrection and Cornell University law
professor Bill Jacobson. Bill, Look, I mean, it's not like
an LA riot is some new thing. Those of us
who've been alive longer than fifteen minutes have seen it.
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But the waving of the Mexican flags, they're throwing things
at cops, that just chaps me.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Well, this is, in a sense, the sum of all
our fears that by bringing in tens of millions, and
how many tens of millions. We don't know foreigners illegally
into the country. We don't even know who these people are.
We all saw the lines of military age solo men
crossing the Mexican border under Joe Biden being welcomed into
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the country and bust into the interior. When you do that,
you are removing a fundamental aspect of sovereignty. The key
aspect of sovereignty for any country is whether you can
control your borders, whether you can control who comes into
the country, and if you don't have a border. And
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I'm going to paraphrase Donald Trump from twenty fifteen. I
was just looking at this the other day. Fifteen. He
gave a speech in Phoenix during his campaign and said,
if we don't have a border, we don't have a country.
And that's really what it is. What the fight is
going on is not over a particular piece of block
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in LA. It's over whether we have a country. And
the Democrats and the governor of California don't want us
to have a country. They wanted to be a free
for all, and mostly the Republicans and the Trump administration
want us to have a country, and that's what this
fight is over. This is not just about some esoteric
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notion of immigration law. This is very much about whether
we are a sovereign nation anymore or not.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Bill. I'm going to ask a question that I don't
want to ask because I'm afraid of your answer. But
do we have a country still? A unified fifty states
United States? Look, it's not as if I don't know
there are going to be differences in parties. Are all
difference than some political parties. But when you have blue states,
blue areas, including our largest most powerful state, California, that
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have declared themselves to be a haven for foreign criminals,
do we still have a country?
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Well, I think we do have a country, but it's
on the precipice. I mean, I think we have to
acknowledge that. And it's been something that's been building for
thirty years. If you look at what they've done to
the education system, where students from kindergarten are indoctrinated into
believing we are uniquely evil in the world. The United
States is uniquely evil in the world. When you bring
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in people from countries who are hostile to us, when
you do all of these things. You're trying to tear
apart the country. If you wanted to destroy the United States,
what would you do differently than the left has done
for thirty to forty years? So do we have a country?
We still do because we currently have an administration that's
committed to it. But if Kamala Harris had been the president,
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I don't think we would. We could not stand four
more years of a Biden administration flying people into our country.
Half a million people from South and Central America we're
flown here by the Biden administration, completely open borders where
people are busted to the interior. So do we have
a country? Yeah, But we're hanging on by our fingernails.
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And the next two to three years is going to
determine what the future country is to a much greater
extent than I think anybody predicted. Illegal immigration has been
a hot topic for as long as I can remember,
but it went into hyper drive under the Biden administration.
It became destructive to an extent we've never seen before.
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I mean, and they're fighting it even now. They're fighting Democrats,
Senators like that guy from Maryland van Holland are fighting
to keep criminals in the country, fight to prevent the
Trump administration from deporting people who have been convicted or
incredibly accused of crimes and who are here illegally. So, yeah,
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we have a country, but we can't take it for granted.
Whether the Trump administration is successful or not in its
immigration push will determine the future of this country.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Bill, what can look everyone's talking about the marines being
sent in here and marines being sent in there. I
realize there are legal things you can do as president,
especially when it comes to the military, and.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Things you cannot do.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So that's your area, most definitely not mine. What can
you do? Can you just send the marines into the streets?
What can you do?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Well, you certainly can do what Trump has done so far,
which is federalized the National Guard, and you can send
in the military to protect federal assets and federal personnel.
You can't have the military engage in routine policing, routine
policy enforcement, things like that. But he has the authority
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to do what he did very clearly by statute, and
it's inherent in the executive power under Article two to
make sure that the laws are faithfully executed, and he
has the right to protect federal property and to protect
civil rights and things like that. He can't start running
LA not that he would want to. He can't impose
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a military administration on the city of Los Angeles and
run it day to day, but he sure can protect
federal assets and ICE members from being lynched by mobs
running rampant in the street.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Okay, as far as the immigration deportation efforts go, you
just mentioned how critical it is, and obviously I agree
with you one hundred percent. Where is the Supreme Court
and all this to say, they've been disappointing over the
first six months of Trump's presidency. We'll be putting it
unbelievably mild. But where are they in.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
All this, Well, they haven't really been anywhere so far.
They have issued a couple of preliminary rulings and stay
rulings on specific individuals when Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act,
but that's not really what's at stake in Los Angeles.
So the Supreme courts weighed in a little bit, but
they may be coming up upon the biggest decision I
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believe that they'll ever have to make. If a district
court judge in San Francisco grants the state of California's
request to issue an injunction against Donald Trump nationalizing the
National Guard and sending in troops to protect federal assets.
If the judge does that, there's going to be a
real crisis here, and I would expect the Supreme Court
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to step in. I'm not convinced the judge is going
to do this. Oddly enough, we have if you had
to pick a judge in San Francisco, you probably got
one who is more on the more moderate side. He's
actually kind of interesting quirk here. He's the brother of
former Supreme Court Justice Stephen Bryer. So Judge Brier in
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the District Court in San Francisco is the brother of
the former Supreme Court justice. He's not known. I don't
know him very well, but from what I've read, he's
not known for being one of the judges we worry about.
And he didn't do what they wanted. They wanted one
of these emergency orders like they've gotten in many places
around the country without a basis. They wanted him on
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an hour's notice to issue the injunction, and he wouldn't
do it. He said, I'm going to give the government
time to put in their papers. They just put in
their papers about ten minutes ago, and he's going to
hold a hearing. He's doing it the way judges should
be doing things, not the way judges in many places
have been doing things. So where is the Supreme Court?
They're going to have to get involved. If a judge
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enjoins the President of the United States, or i should say,
the executive branch of the United States from exercising their
control over the military, that would be a very serious
and unprecedented, you know, circumstance. And then we'll find out
where the Supreme Court is on all these things.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Where are we out on birthright citizenship?
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Well, that's going to be coming up soon for decision
by the Supreme Court. And I don't know how they're
going to rule. My gut tells me they're going to
not rock the boat. They are not going to want
another situation like they encountered after they rejected gro Vy Wade,
where lunatics are literally at their doorstep with guns incited
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by Democrats, where their homes are protested. So I don't
know if they're going to have the guts to rule
what I believe is probably the right way. There is
a very good argument that the way we have treated
birthright citizenship, that any woman who sets foot on our
territory and then gives birth that child is a citizen.
Even if the woman's here legally, even if she's here temporarily,
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even if she's passing through changing planes at LAX, that
person is now a citizen. I don't think that's the
history of the fourteenth Amendment. And I don't know though,
if the Court will have the guts to make that ruling,
but we're going to find out. That would be the
single biggest ruling to solve our immigration problem. If citizenship
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were to be denied to people who merely, by circumstance,
happened to be born on our territory, that would remove
a lot of the incentive that the Democrats have to
allow in unfettered illegal immigration, because remember, even if they're
the immigrants, the illegal immigrants themselves do not become citizens.
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Their children do, so that is part of the Democrat goal.
I'm old enough to remember when the Democrats were touting
the concept that demography is destiny, and they viewed demography
as favoring them, and they encouraged it. So I think
the Supreme Court, I hope they have the guts to
do it. I don't think they will, but I hope
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they have the guts to rule that birthright citizenship is
not the way it's been handled the last century, and
that that would have a huge impact on the incentives
people have to come to this country.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Cause things On college campus, we're getting better on college
campus anywhere.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
I think in many ways we are. On the surface
this past year, the encampments and the other you know,
hooliganism were much more tame than a year ago. But
I don't think that is anything more than a superficial change.
I don't think the ideologically ideological corruption of our campuses
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has changed. That's too deeply embedded. That's a generational effort,
or at least it's a multi year effort. The first
thing they did on most campuses, not all of them,
but on most campuses was clamped down on the hooliganism
and clamp down on the intimidation that was taking place
on campuses. Superficially, most campuses are better than they were
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a year ago. But unless we change the culture on campuses,
unless we change the faculty on campuses, unless we get
the faculty on campuses back to where they were thirty
or forty years ago. Thirty or forty years ago, professors
identified roughly sixty forty liberal to conservative, which it makes sense.
Academia has always leaned left. Now the latest statistics are
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it's almost thirty to one liberal to conservative. The campuses
have been completely purged of conservatives, or almost completely purged
of conservatives. Those who are still there, like me, are
hanging on, but they're not getting hired, so through attrition
through lack of hiring, there's been a purge of conservatives,
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and this is relevant to what's been happening on the campuses.
There's also been a purge of pro Israel faculty. It
is close to impossible to get hired in the humanities
and social sciences if you are either openly conservative or
openly pro Israel, and therefore the universities cannot reform themselves.
This is the point I make all the time. They
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cannot reform themselves because there is no internal opposition left
on campuses. They have been purged through either firing or
more likely through not hiring, and therefore outside pressure. The
sort of pressure the Trump administration is bringing is the
only way anything is going to change. There's no guarantee
that will change things. But you cannot say, oh, Harvard
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will cure itself, No it won't. You can't say that
Cornell or Columbia or any of these places will reform
themselves with outside pressure. They won't because it's a monoculture.
And that's something that we've got to address.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Thank you as always, I appreciate you. All right, let's
speak of a culture dudes beating up women in sports.
Riley Gaines has thoughts next. I don't know that there's
a more appropriate thing to talk about than Pure Talk
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as long as we're discussing patriotism here, because you know
what mac V soag is right.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
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Speaker 1 (27:22):
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They went and dropped them behind the lines, highest casualty.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
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Speaker 1 (27:31):
They died and droves, actually the majority of them died.
They dropped them behind the lines where they fought in
the jungles. And the CEO of Pure Talk did two
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matter crap, none of that communist filth. Pure Talk loves
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Speaker 2 (28:16):
You know what's wild.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
The dudes playing against women in sports things. It's been
around for a while. I mean, we've been harping about
it for a few years now, as we watched woman
after women get beat up.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Lose out on titles, things like that.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
But now it feels like the tide has shifted, doesn't it,
At least in my circles, at least from what I
can see in the media, it feels like.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
The tide has shifted.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
However, there are still dudes beating up women in sports,
taking their titles in sports, and there are still people
who are so isolated in whatever weirdo freak bubble they're in.
They're still defending the practice as if we all can't
see what is happening out there anyway. Riley Gaines knows
a touch more about this than I do, because she
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was one of those women joining me now host of
the Gains for Girls podcast on OutKick dot Com, which
of course we love here, Ridley Gains Riley, what happened
with you and Simone Biles? When I was a kid,
America's gymnasts were America's sweethearts. They were on cover the
wheaties boxes. And now there are a bunch of training lovers.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
That's what has been made very very clear over this
past weekend, jesse Man, I was so shocked. I'll walk
you through how I found out about this. I was
sitting at home on Friday evening. Typically I'm on the road,
so I was so excited to be home relaxing weekend
with my husband, with my dogs, with my horse. Friday evening,
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I get this notification on my phone from exits has
Simone Biles tagged you and mentioned you in a comment.
I was like ecstatic at the thought of this, because
this is a woman I've looked up to for so long.
I click on the notification and I had to read
it several times, go back and forth the profile to
make sure this was the real Simone Biles who had
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just called me a truly sick bully and a sore
loser and compared my stature to that of a man
in these tweets. I was so shocked. But that's the
way the cookie crumbled. I guess Simone Biles, I think
very quickly realized that we're not living in the year
twenty twenty anymore. We are living in the year twenty
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twenty five. She did not receive a very welcomed reception
based on these comments, and since then she has now
issued an apology. Took her several days to do such,
but nonetheless she apologized for getting personal with me. Went
on to say, look, I don't want men and women's sports,
and for that stance, she's now receiving a lot of
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pushback from both sides of the ale Jesse. But that's
what happens when you sit.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
On the fence, Riley, I'm not an athlete, you are.
How much pressure are athletes under today, especially female athletes
to go along with this stuff? I remember all the
Upen stuff, which was horrible and out. We have brave
people like Paula Scanlon coming out and talking about it,
but female athletes face a lot of pressure to just
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shut up and go along with it and change in
front of a dude, don't you.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
An immense amount of pressure both from your whether it's
internalized pressure, number one, or from your coaching staff, from
your athletic director, from the sports organization itself, from your sponsorships.
I would imagine that was the large part of what
Simone was dealing with. She's sponsored by very large companies,
corporate companies, things like Athleta for example. But again the
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response that she received, maybe this will be a large
part in turning some of that around Athleta. There was
this big boycott movement this week where people said, look,
I'm not spending my money on Athleta. This is a
company that sponsors someone who bodies shames other women. So
we will see what if any of that shifts public
opinion here, or more so shifts what we are seeing
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in terms of pressure being put on these female athletes
from corporations specifically. I'll be interested to see that, but
it is a lot of pressure them and are under
all while the leaders at the top are just glad
it's not them. They're glad that they're not the ones
getting publicly humiliated or publicly receiving these negative comments, leaving
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two women to cap fight for I think sixty plus
million people saw her tweet. They're just thrilled it's not them.
In hot seat.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I've done a lot of dumb things in my life. Thankfully,
sixty million people never actually watched me do or say
any of those things. Okay, are you suing the NCIA,
I am.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
I'm suing the nc DOUBLEA myself and about nineteen other plaintiffs,
nineteen other athletes who have been impacted at the hands
of the nc DOUBLEA, and they're discriminatory, regressive policies. This is,
of course following that National Championships where they put a
man in the pool with us and a man in
our locker room, all while reprimanding us if we even
dared to question it. But it's not just swimmers. We
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have golfers, we have tennis players, We have volleyball players
on this suit as well. So very excited to see
where this goes, to see the outcome of this. Just
received some good news that will hopefully be made public
surrounding the lawsuits soon. But I believe these leaders need
to be held accountable. As I was just alluding to,
it's ultimately the leaders who are creating and enforcing these policies. Therefore,
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they are the ones who should be held responsible. It
should be their feet that are being put to the fire,
and I'm proud to be one of many who is
involved in this effort.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Riley, I think we're going to look back on this
time and just be mortified at what we allow to happen.
And I know right now there are a lot of
parents with young ladies who are in sports and they
don't know what to do because they're in these jurisdictions.
Your daughter goes out there, she busts her bud early
morning practices, You're driving eight hours at these miserable soccer tournaments,
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putting all this time and effort in, and then they
don't know what to do when she gets into a
competition like that California track meet where that dude just
won a couple titles. Do you pull her out? Do
you boycott the whole thing? What would you advise parents
to do if it's their baby girl who put in
the work and now it's being destroyed.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Yeah, that's the impossible question. What do you do?
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Right?
Speaker 8 (34:28):
It's tragic that the onus is placed on these young
girls that they're left in this decision. Do I not
get on the podium, do I not compete? Do I
just go along with it? It's my last meet ever?
And I think back to when I was in that position.
Granted it was three years ago, which was a very
different climate back then, but I wasn't willing to not compete.
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Had I known, or had I not been so naive,
I'll say to the trajectory of where we were going
at the time, I wouldn't have gotten in that pool
that day, because, guess what, by me participating in the farce,
I was just as guilty as the people again who
were creating and enforcing these policies. It's a movement that
we've dubbed Project Boycott, with emphasis on the word boy
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of girls taking a stand, being willing to do the
hard thing right, but helping them understand also in the
process being able to provide the resources and guidance that
some things matter more than victory. One of those things
being the idea that there is reality. Reality matters, that
there is an objective truth, that your safety is more
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important than any sort of victory. We've talked to many
girls in the sport of volleyball, and we've actually there
were five Mountain West Conference teams into a Division one
teams that forfeited their game against San Jose State University
last year. A team that had a man as their
star player. So in that scenario, you have to worry
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about getting hit in the face with a volleyball coming
at you one hundred miles an hour. It's a situation
that no girl wants to be in. But your question
was specifically to the parents. Goodness, gracious, parents, defend your kids.
I have been. There's lots of fingers to point. You
can point a finger at the NCAA. You can point
a finger at the Biden administration for the regressive policies
that ultimately allowed us to be where we are. But
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I think there's a finger that needs to be pointed
back at the parents, especially actually the dads. Where in
the world have you been defend your kids? I can't
believe it even has to be said. I have parents
who reach out to me all the time, who say,
this is happening to my daughter. We live here in
this school district, but I can't say anything because I
work a corporate job. Can you do something about it?
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And it breaks my heart when I get a message
like this, because of course I will. It's what I've
built my platform, and it's what I care so deeply
and so passionately about I will do whatever I can,
But do I have to care more about your kid
than you do? So parents, defend your kids. They're in desperate,
desperate need of it.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Riley appreciate you I met.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So let's talk to a former NFL player, turn Pastor.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Next. I missed the NFL.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I miss I miss watching sports. I'm a dude. I
grew up in Ohio and Montana watching sports with my buddies.
We get home after practice, we turn on ESPN and
I haven't turned on ESPN in ages. I miss being
able to just watch athletes. We never cared what race, religion,
We didn't care what their politics were. We just wanted
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to see these athletes perform. And that's all it used
to be. And I try to explain this to my
sons that it didn't used to be like it is now,
and then they look at me like I'm an alien
from another planet.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It's the only world they've ever known.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
It breaks my heart joining me now, Pastor Paul Blair,
founder of Liberty Pastors Network and former NFL player, Pastor,
I hate now that I have to tune into the
NFL and in between pharmaceutical commercials, there's end racism painted
in the When did this happen? Why did this happen?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Well, sadly, we just let our guard down and it
just erode in through the years. You know, when I
was a ballplayer, whether it be in college or in
the pros, and we weren't the Mexican Chicago Bears and
the Black Chicago Bears and the white Chicago Bears. When
we came out on the field, we all wore one uniform,
one name on the front. We had different names on
the back, but we were the Chicago Bears, and your
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ethnicity or your economic background made no difference. I mean,
it's truly in a way of free market. Those guys
that were the most talented at their particular position wound
up earning a job. You had to beat your best
every day in order to keep that job. And you know,
as a team, you wanted to put your best product
on the field. But it was a team sport. You know,
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you were there to represent your city, you were there
to represent your fans, and quite frankly, you're on the field,
they're standing shoulder and shoulder with your with your teammates,
and you just do anything in the world to try to,
you know, make sure not let any of those down.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It changed because we let our guard down.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And I agree with you on that, but what should
we what should we have done? I just I watched
it happen and it was like it was almost all
at once. And I know it wasn't all at once.
I know that's naive, but it was like one day
you woke up and the NFL was gay, and what
did that happen? When did that happen?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
It's like it came at us all at once, but
it didn't. Right.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
If you look at the there were forty five points
of the communist gold and takeover America, And if you
look at it, you know this has been around for
sixty plus years. And it wasn't by using bullets and
overpowering us. They knew that couldn't happen, But it was
to erode us morally and in our educational system. Our
seminaries were infiltrated, and we now have pastors that are
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woke and quite frankly cowards. They aren't bulldog watch dogs
of their flocks. And we had always gone to you know,
we've gone public education. I was product of a public
school system. But when I was in school you know,
we were taught facts, we were taught reading, writing, arithmetic,
phonics clients. Most of us just assumed that that was
still going on in the school system. However, you know,
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over the last twenty thirty years, they were stopping. They
weren't educating our children, they were indocunating our children. And
then you have a whole generation of people that are
now adults that don't think rashly, or don't think logically,
have no critical thinking skills. You know, I never thought
we'd been an age where we had to define how
many genders there were. I mean, that's been quite obvious
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for six thousand years. It's obvious biologically either x X
or x Y. You know, having been in many locker
rooms and lived a life of sixty two years, there's
two genders. I can guarantee it. And for people to
try to add to that, well, those investment are older,
that's insane. Sadly, the younger generation has just accepted this insanity.
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When we live in the twilight zone and we're finding
to take it back, do.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
You think no, I realized it's just the beginning, but
do you think we are starting to take it back?
And I asked that question. For this reason, Pastor, I'm
seeing more athletes openly one refuse the pride stuff, openly
talk about Jesus. I don't even remember that from my youth.
I'm seeing that pop up more and more. Now, are
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we finally have we reached the bottom for part of
the pun.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Or really too? And what's said is actually it's sad
for my generation, but encouraging for the future because the
Gen Z kids are far more conservative than they have
a greater draw to get back to orthodoxy in Christianity.
You know, the seeker friendly movement was one of the
things that let Christianity down quite frankly fundamentally. But this
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youngest generation, it's more conservative than the Baby Boomers, of
which I'm at the tail end of, and the millennials,
And quite frankly, I think the left just overplayed their
hand these last five or six or seven years. I mean,
we didn't go with an argument over even reasonable things.
I mean we stepped straight into the twilight zone. When
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you have people dressing up like animals and demanding that
they be referred to as a furry or some sort
of animal creature, and when we have parents taking their
children into permanently altering their bodies physically and destroying them emostly.
That's something that was so outside the realm of possibility
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even ten twelve years ago, you never even saw it coming.
In Barack Obama, the first community organizer that I ever
heard of, was elected president. Everyone was very dogmatic that
marriage was between one man and one woman. Even when
he ran for reelection in twenty twelve, he campaigned on
the idea that marriage was one man and one woman.
Of course, we know he was lying now looking back
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at it. But once that fail, once that domino failed,
it seemed that everything else just has fallen very rapidly,
a lot faster than I thought. And I think the
young people have finally just reached the point where they
recognize how insane this is and they're not going to
put up with it anymore. Hopefully the older generation will join.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Them, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Young people might just end up saving us. Pastor appreciate
you very much, sir Tony Man, He's not wrong these
young kids. I see it around my kids, and I
know you're thinking it's because they're my kids, they're friends.
I didn't raise those kids, and they are hardcore. I
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have some hope when it comes to the next generation.
I have some hope that they're waking up anyway. That's
two final thoughts.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Culture war matters a lot. We are not an economic
zone as a country. We are a nation. We should
protect our culture. We're watching it right now all across
the television set. Culture matters a lot. And when you
let that go, when you ignore that aspect of it,
you end up with a country full of animals who
(44:26):
want to tear it apart. But we can get it back.
We just have to fight for it. That's all it's
going to take. Fighting for it, all right, We'll do
it again.
Host
Jesse Kelly
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