November 8, 2025 • 44 mins
GOP Senators Marsha Blackburn and Eric Schmitt were two of many Senators targeted in Jack Smith's Arctic Frost Operation. Congressman Scott Perry was targeted as well. These elected officials join Jesse Kelly to suggest how America can get accountability for this abuse of power.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, so that was a lot. I told you, it's
not the end of the world. Happened last night, and
it's not. My Exernivis just came on here and told
you that we should be concerned about the midterms. And
you know what, he's right too, we should be. So
maybe you're sitting there thinking, oh boy, what do I do? Well,
allow me to give you just a little bit of motivation.
(00:25):
It's going to spend a few much give you a
little bit of motivation. You know how terrible you remember,
of course, how terrible it was under the Biden administration,
not just talking about policies, how truly evil the government became.
These people just turned all the guns of the government
and aimed them at you, aimed them at me, aim
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them at Trump. Just deployed the government against their political opponents. Truly,
truly you. But I want to remind you of this.
These people aren't sorry to this day, and I have
asked for this several times. I have asked for emails,
I've asked friends. To this day, I have not heard
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of a single Democrat in the United States of America,
not just people on TV, a single Democrat that has
expressed that maybe arresting Trump with a bunch of bogus
felony charges was wrong. Not one has come out and
said that was probably the wrong thing to do. They're
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not sorry. This is James Comy on MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know Republicans these days aren't big in thinking about
principle or precedent. They're going to be deeply sorry that
that disappears, because someday there will be a Democratic president
and there'll be investigations of Republican officeholders. If I'm them,
I sure would want these career people in place making
sure that it's done in the right way. Look, I've
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long thought that you could shrink the size of some
of the Department of Justice quarters units. But this is
like burning down the house and then standing in front
of the pile of ashes and saying, yeah, we really
did need to retile the guest path. Right. This is
destroying the place at a cost that's going to take
years and years to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
They're coming back harder if we give them power again.
Eric Holder, he's out there on the podcast circuit. Here's
what he said.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It pains me to say this. I think the Supreme
Court is a broken institution, and it's something that has
to be I think a part of the national conversation
in twenty six and in twenty eight, what are we
going to do about the Supreme Court? And I think
that we have to think about again talking about the
acquisition and the use of power. If there is a
democratic trifecta in twenty twenty eight, and I think the
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possibility of that is pretty good. Supreme Court reform is
something that has to be considered. Term limits, I think,
at a minimum, potentially expanding the court is something I
think that also should be should be considered.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
What we saw under the Biden administration was the warm
up act. Maybe you're recalling four years of evil when
you're saying to yourself, who can't believe we live through that?
Thank goodness, that's over. We never have to deal with
it again. No, no, no, no no. The only lesson the
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communists learned from last time is he didn't hit you
hard enough. The only lesson these people learned is they
didn't do enough evil things. They didn't shred the constitution enough.
They didn't jail enough of their political opponents. That's the
only thing they learned. Last night, we took it on
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the chip. I got that sucked the midterm elections. Maybe
they'll go our way, maybe they won't. But we have
starting right now, we have time to begin fighting back,
you personally, me personally. Are we going to get involved?
(04:07):
Are we going to knock on doors? We're going to
phone bank for candidates? If we have money, are we
going to donate to candidates and causes? Are we going
to do the blocking and tackling necessary to ensure we're
not wiped out at the midterms that decision gets made now.
I know everybody's licking their wounds today. I got it.
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It's one thing for you or me to talk about
arctic frost.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
It's terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The FBI, what are they doing? Jack Smith? What did
they do? But it's another thing to actually be a
victim of all this. And our next guest is one
of the great congressmen we have, and we don't have
very many, and he was also a victim of this,
Congressman Scott Perry of the great State of Pennsylvania. Congressman.
For those who don't know who, I haven't seen you
on here before. I'm the floor is yours. You've more
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than earned it. What did they do to you?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
What have well? Jesse thanks for having me on Arctic Frost,
so named for a variety of oranges. Just keep that
in mind. So Arctic Frost was an operation to persecute
and prosecute anybody involved with President Trump that had any
questions about the twenty twenty election. Now, of course I
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have thousands of constituents that called in, that came to
see me, that email, that wrote me, that had questions
and demanded me, as the representatives, speak for them and
ask these questions, which I did. The US government didn't
go after those thousands of people. But if your name
was Peter Navarro, if your name was Steve Bannon, if
your name was Scott Perry, if your name was a
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handful of Sundry senators, the Department of Justice came after
US and Christopher Ray authorized the operation, which means Merrick
Garland knew about it. And of course the intention was
to make sure that nobody ever questioned the Democrat Party
again or any election, and certainly to throw President Trump
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in jail and make sure he never became president again.
I you know, it's it's political persecution on a scale
of places like Cuba, the Soviet Union, the Communist Party
of China, North Korea, that that's what happened in the
United States, and we just lived long enough to survive it.
And of course they all believe that President Trump wasn't
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going to come back, so they all believed they were
going to get away with it. But of course it's
unraveling as we speak.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
All right, let's let's focus on the unraveling, if you
don't mind. I love that the information is getting out there.
I love that evil actors are getting named, shamed, some
getting fired, but that's not near enough. It's you can't
use the FBI like like a political arm. That's how
nations end. It's that serious. What happens from here to
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the bad guys anything.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Well, in my opinion, they need to be investigated by
the FBI and the Department of Justice, assuming they did
at least one thing which is likely violate the civil
rights of many individuals that were their political targets. They
need to be prosecuted for those crimes, and if found guilty,
they need to serve time for those crimes.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Congressman, the FBI, You're right, would kind of need the
FBI to look into the crimes. But the FBI is
the one that committed a lot of the crimes to
begin with. I understand we have new and much better
leadership at the top, but that's at the top. There's
still so much rot in there. Can we trust the FBI,
because I'll be honest, I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Well, I don't know that I'm ever going to fully
trust the FBI, And unfortunately, I think the rot goes
pretty deep. And like you said, you know the FBI
agent that walked up to our rental property on vacation
with you know, where me and my in laws, my
wife and my two girls were staying. He's been relee
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of his job, as have others, but that's not nearly enough.
And I think, you know, as they build the case
and evidence becomes available, it is my hope that they
will start a criminal investigation, not just firing these people,
but a criminal investigation for, if nothing else, violation of
civil rights, which comes with a pretty heavy federal penalty.
(08:22):
And you're right, to a certain extent, to a great extent,
we're depending on the FBI and the Department of Justice
to do that, and only time will tell. And of course,
you know, we can't be satisfied with the fact that
many of us are relieved. Myself Jeff Clark, Peter Navarro, Bannon.
You know that we don't have the FBI and the
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Department of Justice trying to bankrupt bankrupt us, destroy our reputation,
and throw us in jail. That's not enough. I mean,
we're glad that we're through that part, but we have
to send a signal that this can never happen again.
And the best way to do that is to make
sure that the people that were involved in it get
punished with real punishments, Which doesn't mean just losing your
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job at the federal you know, at some federal agency
and then go getting a job at MSNBC or CNN.
It means going behind bars for at least the length
of the Trump presidency. After that, if there's a Democrat,
they're likely to be pardon because they're going to start
this stuff all over again. Likely, But these guys have
to know there's going to be consequences, and I think
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that's the only real answer to it.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
John Brennan's starting to look a lot like a man
who's pretty nervous. I'm sure you've already seen it here.
He was getting a little heated over the weekend. Why you.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Because you misrepresented that We never said it was this insipation.
It was Russian influence operations, which is what they do.
Is the difference between influence operation.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
No, you don't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You don't know the literature said.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
All the hallmarks.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
He looks like a man who maybe had one too
many beers and starting to think about jail.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, you know, look, we all in public life. No,
you don't put your finger in somebody's chest. And you
can have a dialogue about it.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Obviously he disagrees and dislike the narrative of the individual
that was questioning him. But you know, we know a
whole lot about John Brennan, and we at a minimum,
we know that he should have never had any control
of classified information, should never even have had a security clearance,
let alone been at the top of one of the
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nation's security agencies. And I think we're going to find
out obviously that he was involved in this heavily. He
was involved in the sedition and the subversion around the
President of the United States and the president's agenda. It
is not treason because it you know, we don't have
an enemy, a so called enemy there were at war with,
but it is seditious activity, and he can be prosscuted
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for it, and he should be.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
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a fortune. Enjoy. Well, we're not gonna let the Arctic
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frost thing go that's the bad news. The good news
is somehow, some way, Missouri you wouldn't think it beat
Missouri has turned into the anti communist capital of the
United States of America. You would think of bet Texas
or something like maybe South Carolina, but they just keep
churning out studs. Senator Senator now Eric Schmidt joins us
from the great state of Missouri. Senator I'm thrilled you're there,
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but I'm mad the FBI spied on you.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
What happened, Well, I mean I said it, and maybe
I understated that. This whole thing is like one hundred
times worse than Watergate if you put it in its
full context.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Jesse.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
You got at the beginning Russia Gate, of course in
twenty sixteen, Hunter Biden laptop suppression in twenty twenty to
make sure he did, and you get back and then
when they get in, they start censoring. And in three
days after President Trump announces he's running for president in
twenty twenty two, a couple of things happen. You got
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the criminal prosecution Atlanta, criminal prosecution in New York. Then
Jack Smith is appointed, this known henchman. He's a total
dirt bag. Starts not just going after President Trump to
put him in jail for the rest of his life.
But this broad dragnet of I was chairman of the
Republican ag Association at the time. Charlie Kirk's organization subpoena's
phone records of sitting senators. This is crazy. This is crazy.
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And Judge Boseberg, by the way, he's right in the
middle of all of it, with a special note in
the subpoenas not to notify the senators, which is likely
illegal and for sure should begin the House should begin
impeachment proceedings against Judge Boseburg for his conduct. So this
thing is broad, it's sweeping, it's the weaposation of government,
and we're still learning more. And if President Trump wouldn't
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have won, all this stuff would still be happening, right,
And so anyway, we got to put a stop to it,
and people have to be held accountable.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Senator, can I ask you a little bit more about Boseburg,
because everyone knows that name now, because of course he
was front and center trying to stop everything Trump did
as soon as he got elected again. And if no
one was shocked to see that alien who was doing
all the things to you and other people on the right.
Can he be impeached? I know you're calling for it,
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and I'm happy for it, but do we have the
guts on the right to get rid of these bad
judges because we can't fix anything with these judges here.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Right, Listen. I don't take that lightly. Like I don't
take it lightly, but like it's not impiachment is not
just some scarecrow like it actually has to mean something.
And to put that in further context, he was the
Faiza Court guy. He's the guy that gave a speech
before Trump got in office about how he's going to
thwart the agenda. Then he starts getting some of these cases.
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He wasn't the assignment judge for that day, Like on
the big one, the you know, the illegal immigrant case
that he got, he was on vacation. Jesse got it
one in the morning, one in the morning. Was he
tipped off?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
We should probably find out. Then we find out this
arctic frost stuff, he's right in the center of it.
So absolutely the House should move forward with impeachment inquiry.
Then we come to the Senate. Now, do we have
enough votes in the Senate to ultimately get that done?
Or the enough Democrats or are gongree to that. I
don't know, but like at some point we got to
start doing something about these rogue judges.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Senator, the other bad actors. And there are just so
many to name, FBI agents, unistand many have been fired.
We have the James Comy so John Brennan's of the world.
I don't like to tell people ridiculous things that can't
happen and give people false hope. What level of accountability
can we bank on. I don't want to sit here
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and say they're all going to prison. That's ridiculous and
not true. But someone has to go to prison for
all this. Is that possible?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:57):
And I try to That's why you and I get
along so well. I try to do the same thing.
I don't just try to throw the bombs out there
if there's nothing's gonna happen. But I do think, okay,
so the statute of limitations on, let's just take the
Russia Gate stuff and a lot of this stuff. The
statute limitation sadly has run on some of these crimes. However,
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where I do think there's a real case to be
made and could be made, is on a conspiracy because
the statute of limitations essentially continues to run. So the
example I've given is, if you're a co conspirator in
mile marker one. Let's just say you made up a
bunch of stuff about Trump having ties to Russia that
you laundered through intelligence agencies like Comy, Brennan and Clapper.
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Even though you leave government or you take an exit
ramp at mile marker five, you are still liable for
that criminal conduct that happens at mile marker ten. And
that's where we're at. So I do think you can
make a credible case that a conspiracy has ext existed
now for almost ten years that was based on you know,
trumped up documents in fake charges against you know, him
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being a Russian asset, and all you think of all
the things that happened to try to sideline a presidential candidate,
then a presidency, and then a guy running for reelection.
I do think something can happen from there, and it should.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
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(18:23):
This Arctic frost thing, I shouldn't say it's a big deal.
It is. It's the biggest deal in the world. But
is it big enough? Meaning? Is are people going to
be going to prison for this? Because they have to?
We can't have a secret police agency operating like this
inside the country. Joining me now, somebody who was most
definitely targeted by this whole thing, great Senator from the
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State of Tennessee Senator, Marshall Blackburn, Senator, you were one
of the people in the crosshairs of the Federal Bureau
of Investigation for the dastardly crime of talking to Donald Trump.
Could you break this down for us in more detail
what happened?
Speaker 8 (18:59):
You got it? I will, And as you say, it
is a big deal, and it's bigger than Watergate, and
it's far more expensive than Watergate. And as we go
through this, I think the American people are going to
see it. We're actually going to do a press conference
this afternoon. Here is what we do know. Jack Smith
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was named a special Council after a memo was written
by Chris Ray, then the director of the FBI, saying,
we think there could possibly have been some kind of
conversation between some conservative members and President Donald Trump, and
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it all centers around the twenty twenty election. So what
we want to do is do some investigating to see
if there could possibly maybe might have been some kind
of activity. So they on April fourth of twenty two,
you have this memo written by and the next day
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Lisa Monico, the Deputy Attorney General at the time, to
Merrick Garland, the Attorney General. Lisa Monico says I'm signing
off on this, YU should too, and Merrick Garland signs off.
So then Jack Smith is appointed as the special counsel
and he starts his fishing expedition. And what they did
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was despy on eight US Senators. The commonality there is
where all Republicans who support President Trump and had valid
questions about the twenty twenty election. It was a total
fishing expedition. There is no predicate for them doing this.
They went to a judge, they got a subpoena. They
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go to our wireless carriers. Now AT and T moved
to Quash and they challenged the subpoena and Jack Smith's
people back down. Verizon, my carrier, did not, and therefore
they turned over the records of every call I either
made or received, who the call was from, the duration
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of the phone, the call, the number of the phone,
and the physical location where I was standing when I
either made or received that phone call. It is an
invasion and a violation of my First Amendment and Fourth
Amendment rights, the Speech and Debate Clause, the separation of powers,
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and also the Stored Communication Act.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Senator, Obviously, we want to live in a country where
everybody's treated equally under the law and whatnot. But also
I am understanding that you have a bit more of
an important job than I do to do this to
United States Senator. It's so brazen. This has to be criminal, right,
And I don't want to sound naive because I understand
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you said a judge signed off on it. But we
are supposed to live in a system where this kind
of thing can't happen, even if you have a scumbag
in charge of the FBI or Lisa Monico doing the
things of Lisa Monico has always done. There should be
laws that stop this. Why weren't there that stop this?
Speaker 8 (22:11):
And it is a violation, and yes, it is a
criminal and that is why my colleagues and I have
written to the current ag Pambondi and have asked for
a referral of Jack Smith to the Office of Professional
Conduct at the DOJ. It is also when cash Bettel
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didn't waste any time. He fired every single one of
these staff attorneys and staff members that were part of
that CR fifteen unit that worked with Jack Smith, and
is also why I've written the DC bar with a
letter of complaint about Jack Smith. He should be disbarred
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and he should be prosecuted to the full extent of
the law, a law, with every member of his team
that carried this out. And we know that they have
also spied on over one hundred conservative organizations. And here's
the thing. If they're going to do this to eight
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sitting US senators, senators and it is unlawful to do this,
then what are they going to do to conservatives all
across this country that do not share their opinion? Or
if you have some FBI field office that has somebody
in it that doesn't like a member of a somebody
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in their community, or a member of their church, or
the family of somebody that's in an elected office, think
about the power that they have to just really wreck
people's lives. We need one tier of justice, Lady, justice
is blindfolded. It should be equal access, equal treatment, equal justice.
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And the Democrats carried out weaponization of the DOJ and
the FBI. They carried it out against us, and we
are going to get to the bottom of it. So
we end this. No one, no Democrat, Republican, independent, Green Party, whatever,
no one should be subject to this kind of treatment.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What about Christopher Ray? You can't use the Federal Bureau
of Investigation as your little plaything to help Democrats out
and attack Republicans. That is honestly that that is a crime,
in my opinion, that is worse than murder. That is
maybe the worst crime in the United States you can
commit because of the power that comes with the position.
When does Christopher Ray go behind bars?
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Well, and he is someone that we will bring forward
in our hearings, and we've got a meeting as to
how we at Judiciary Committee are going to move forward
on this, if we're going to compel people or end
up subpoena wing people to come before us and have
them under oath. But the fact that he's the one
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that wrote the memo that got Arctic Frost started. He
wrote the memo and the language in it, and it
is on my social media Marshall Blackburn, and it's also
on our Blackburn dot send it dot gov website. People
can pull it up, they can look at it and
read and just see how nebulous a lot of this
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language is and how wide ranging. He wrote it so
that you could scoop up people and then go scrape
information and try to get a subpoena and get their
phone records and then try to track everybody they were
talking to and how long they were on the phone
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with that individual. And if they call person A and
talk to them, then did they call person B? And
then did they did they call person A back? Or
did they bring in person C? And they I mean
and where I was physically located? And I was I
at home. This is just one of those things you say,
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how could something have been this invasive and this intrusive
and they think they're going to get by with it,
And you know what, had Kamala Harris won the election,
we would never know how weaponized the Department of Justice
and the FBI was not only under Joe Biden, but
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under Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Senator shifting gears away from this, did someone try to
kill you?
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Well, guess we have someone who has is on house arrest.
At this point. That is about all I can say
about it because it's gone to a grain jury.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, all right, then I'm not going to ask you
to ruin that whole thing. Let's shift gears to this shutdown.
I don't see how it ends. The Democrats know it
has to end, but their base is going to freak
out on them if they end the freaking thing. It
seems like they're stuck.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
I Chuck Schumer had planned this shutdown for months. That's
why it's the Schumer shutdown. Basically, the Democrats decided to
go on strike and closed down the federal government. It's
like they're fill of bustering moving forward on appropriations bills,
even though they're saying they're shutting down the government because
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they want to get some things done on healthcare. Well,
as you know, Jesse, you can't talk about what is
going to be covered by federal appropriations unless you are
working on the appropriations bills. So they shut down the
government because they say they want to work on healthcare,
but you can't do it because the government is shut down.
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So the whole thing is ridiculous. And now we're up
against the deadline with snap benefits. They run out on Saturday,
November first. People are going to swipe those EBT cards
and there will be nothing there. So in Tennessee, we've
been talking to a lot of the food banks and
elected officials and people that are involved. Churches are doing
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food drives for some of the food banks, and we
know that people are stepping up to fill the gap.
We've got about seven hundred thousand families across the state
that are receiving their SNAP and WIC benefits.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Senator, thank you as always, ma'am. Stay safe out there.
I love sleeping. I slept again like a little baby
last night, and I had had It's a long story.
I had to meet somebody for coffee in the afternoon,
so I had a cup of coffee three four in
the afternoon, and already I'm thinking to myself, crap, I'm
not gonna be able to sleep. But I slept like
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Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
It was, you know, not expected to be a victory.
It was very democratic areas. But I don't think it
was good for Republicans. I don't think it was good.
I'm not sure it was good for anybody. But we
had an interesting evening and we learned a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Interesting. Certainly wasn't good. I just reemphasized what I said
in the open that it was bad. We've had bad
nights four. I'm not sure that it spells doom. Mike Cernovich,
my friend Mike Seravic is joining us right now. Thinks
that we are in some trouble if some things don't change,
and I think he deserves the floor, Mike, the floor
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is yours. Well.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I felt that way the minute Trump won I posted
November eleventh, twenty twenty four. Somebody could find that tweet
that we need to worry about the midterms. So here,
here's here's the thing that everybody, all the not you,
but the consultant class misses.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
They go.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Trump drives Democrat turnout when he's on the ballot, but
Sherberty drives a Republican turnout. So if you look at
twenty sixteen Trump ones GOP has a trifecta twenty eighteen,
Trump's off ballot blue wave twenty twenty. Republicans. Remember, in
twenty twenty, Republicans were supposed to lose the Senate and
the House, right, that was a prediction. No, the only
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person who lost in twenty twenty was Trump, right, which
is why a lot of people, myself included, Even if
you didn't buy the really kooky theories of all the
Stone election, you did say, well, how is it that
the Senate stayed Republican? But somehow Trump lost? Okay, special elections,
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Trump's out on ballot Georgia loses. Two sentences, twenty twenty two,
What happens twenty twenty four?
Speaker 8 (31:50):
What happens?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So what?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
The GOP does not exist. It is the Trump Party.
It is Trump's GOP. So even if last night you
hadn't happened, I was already worried about the midterms. I
was worried about the midterms the week Trump won, I
was like it, I'm always like the Cassandra. I tried
to be like a Debbie Downer because people who know
me know that I'm a pretty upby guy. But what's
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our plan to win? In twenty twenty six, but Trump
off the ballot, and then of course last night was
a bad night.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Okay, Mike, So what is it about the GOP voter
that is uniquely motivated to vote for Trump? To your point,
but when Donald Trump's name is not on there, he's
just not interested. He cares about these issues when Trump
is on the ballot, but doesn't when he's not. Helped
me understand.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Actually, I was getting coffee and I was sort of
thinking what we talk about, and I was going to
ask you the question, if your job weren't politics and media,
would you vote in the twenty twenty six midterms?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I would, but I've vote in every single election because
I think it batters. I think it's extremely important. Of
Course I would.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
But you had a pause. You're just like, it's not like, well,
of course I would. Why wouldn't I Why wouldn't I
be hyped?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Right?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Trump voters are hyped to vote. If I said a
week before twenty twenty four, you're gonna vote, You're like,
what kind of stupid idiotic? Quite, of course, obviously, obviously
I'm gonna vote, right obviously in twenty twenty six, It's like, well, intellectually,
I know that it's important and there are real problems
if I don't vote, and you run it through your head,
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but you don't feel it right, you don't feel in
your heart. And that's everybody for just being honest. It's like,
if you were honest, not you. But I'm just saying,
like the collective, the royal we right, if we're all
being honest, we would say, I mean, yeah, I get it.
You gotta vote Republican because look at what Schumer did.
But people who don't live in politics and media don't
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go vote because of that right. They don't go vote
because of that. They need to feel a calling, they
need to feel an energy and a momentum to go
out and vote, and that doesn't happen with Trump down
on the ballot. So then to be positive, how can
Republicans draw out more voters? Well, they could do They
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could do Republican things like I'm seeing right now Ted Cruz, who,
by the way, I'm ninety percent Ted Cruz. When Ted
Cruse had a close race with Betto obviously I was like,
this is crazy. You have to vote for Ted Cruse
and everything, But I'm against this trend of people in
the Senate being podcasters and influencers. Right, you're in the Senate.
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I can post about things, Jesse Kelly. We can be
on Twitter all day, you know. And I know that
they have to do some kind of media. So I'm
not saying some media, but do things in the Senate
that make people want to vote. What's Mike Johnson really doing?
They always have an excuse, Oh, we need sixty votes,
we can't do anything. In twenty twenty four, they were
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gonna have sixty votes for anesty because you couldn't close
the border without remember that. This is why I'm tired
of being gas lit by Mike Johnson and Ted CRUs
and everybody. At twenty twenty four, Lindsey Graham and Langford
fun Fool foo Fool, whatever his name is. They all said,
we can't shut the border unless we can do amnesty.
It's only only way to do it. But we better
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come out in twenty twenty six because because why because why?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Okay, so let's talk domestically, Mike, because you've been making
this point, and I'll be honest with you. I'm looking
at a stack of I don't know how many emails,
and there are a lot of these emails from people
who make the point that you have been ranting about
online about a domestic focus from Trump and the GOP
that that people they're even fine with, you know, go
(35:54):
drop some bombs on it. Ran sounds fine whatever, But
they don't care about that deeply. They care that they
can't afford to go see their mother on vacation, they
can't afford groceries, they can't afford a pound of burger,
and they don't see a lot of movement on those things.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
No, they they don't see No. And I'm having people
texting me like Chuck roast is expensive now, which goes
to show what people are thinking about economically. They're they're
not focused on the foreign stuff. The foreign stuff. This
the deal, the deal that was struck in twenty twenty
four that should have been struck was Hey, look, people
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like me, I don't care about Israel. I don't really
My opinion on Israel would probably get me canceled because
it's it's pretty it's not anti Israel. It's probably so
pro Israel that it would make me look like a ghoul.
You know, but you got to carry your own weight,
you know. Israel's got to wrap this stuff up. They
got to wrap it up. I'm not here scolding you
(36:53):
or doing the moralizing. This is what war looked like.
We've just never had a live stream. But you can't
do propaganda for the other side every day. You can't
give them more video footage every day. You gotta wrap
it up, and then we gotta go domestic. That was
the deal, stated and unstated. And yet here we are.
You're after Trump's election. And if you asked the average
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man on the street, not the DC policy wonk, if
you ask the average man on the street, what has
Trump's priority been over the last year, They're gonna say, well, Ukraine, Israel,
the Nobel Peace Prize. That's what they're gonna say. And
it sounds like that's what your audience is saying too.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
A lot of your audience, it is.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I hear a lot of it, Mike. And and this
is what has concerned me with the Venezuela stuff. The
normal person. I'm not talking about the normal Kami who
Trump's the devil all that stuff, And I'm talking about
normal people, the people that I talked to in my
life that I don't hang around with political people. When
they brought up Venezuela. Everyone likes a little video on
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their phone of a drug boat getting incinerated. No one's
crying for those dirt balls. But I got asked a
lot why why why are we down there? Why are
we messing with it? It's not that it's not a
righteous cause. I got a lot of well why do
I care? There's a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Especially when we know that Fittanel's not coming primarily from Venezuela.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
It's another instance where yeah, I'm the same way. I
think we shouldn't have gone to the Middle East. I
think that we should have taken over most of Latin
America and Southern America and run as part of the
Roman Empire. That's my view. But now people have no
appetite for regime change war. Another side quest in other
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foreign policy. Okay, we got Ukraine, we have Israeli Kee, fine,
can we do domestic issues? No, We're going to do
regime change war.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
I know that there's going to be a lot of people,
myself included, who could counteract my argument by listening everything done.
And my answer to that is, I understand that I'm
not saying this is my personal belief. I'm telling you
that what we know is not what the average person
and the voters who come out for Trump, they're not
(39:06):
experiencing the same thing because they don't have all data
monitor this stuff. Right, you got to look at people
are busy, people got stuff going on. Times, they're tough,
a lot of people are working two jobs. What information
is getting filtered down to them? And it's almost it's
almost nothing. Even though me, I could, I could list off,
I could make the case for why Trump is the
(39:26):
best president of my lifetime. I could do that standing
on my head while also thinking we're gonna lose the
midterms unless we turn this around.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Can we turn it around by the midterms, Mike? Can
we make the necessary adjustments and get the things done
to get it done? Or is this, you know, fighting
the ocean? Is it inevitable?
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It's not inevitable. We got a year of mondami, so
we got mandami for a year. We got a lot
of things that can go bad for the Democrats over
the next year. Right, A lot can happen any year.
How's the quote go Nothing happens in a year, and
then year's happened in a decade or decades? Happened in
(40:08):
a year something something like that could happen. But the
Venezuela thing could go sideway. The problem with Venezuela. Even
though I'm again i'm not opposed to regime change wars,
I'm probably I have a very Roman mindset about a
lot of this stuff. I just think that if we're
gonna go over there, you have to run.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
It like a colony.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
You have to colonize it, which is why people forget
we won. People say, oh, we lost the war in Afghanistan.
It's like the military didn't lose, it was an occupation
because people are afraid to be colonized as so. I'm
not some anti colony woke guy, but a lot can
go wrong in the Venezuela thing.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
And what can go right?
Speaker 5 (40:46):
We already got the oil deal that we need, So
what exactly is the win versus American troops could die? Well,
then we're gonna have to retaliate. Are we gonna be
in a hot war with Venezuela?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What the world?
Speaker 7 (41:00):
Right?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
What's our upside here? That's kind of what people are seeing.
And if Trump doesn't come home, so to speak, then
we are looking at a Democrat midterm win and we
are looking at more impeachment and we are looking at
a you know, repeat of the hell of the Adam
Schiff era.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeh gosh, Mike as always, thank you, brother, I appreciate you.
Speaker 9 (41:34):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's time to lighten the mood. And I keep using
this term because it makes me sound smart, litigious. You've
heard this term before previously, those of us on the right.
Maybe you call yourself a conservative. We didn't like the
idea of suing people. You can't sue people, shouldn't sue people.
That's what the left does. But the truth is that
(41:55):
it is an effective tool against people, especially people in
the media, who line about you. You're you're not allowed.
You shouldn't be allowed to use these big public platforms
to tell outright lies. And Donald Trump, to his credit,
is litigious. He started suing all these big media companies
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and getting multimillion dollars settlements because they would just get
up and tell gigantic lies. Now the communist relies on lies.
We talk about this all the time. He builds and
maintains a world of make believe for his brain dead followers.
Your liberal ant, Peggy believes a bunch of things that
aren't real. Because we have started to sue when they
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tell outright lies. We now are treated routinely to legal
disclaimers like this one on the view.
Speaker 10 (42:45):
The Trump family has made about one point eight billion
dollars profited off of this government. And he said that
Joe Biden didn't know who he was partning using an
autopen How come you don't know who this guy is?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Does he used an order?
Speaker 8 (43:00):
Lend me that, lend me meet.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
With the judge the meetings that are they're supposed to
go to when they're listening to what the hell what
passes notes? You don't know if pen use, if Trump
used an autopenapart it.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Was a joke.
Speaker 10 (43:17):
We don't know if Trump us an autopen our line,
but we do know that he didn't know who that
crypto guy was.
Speaker 7 (43:24):
Well, I'm sorry. You know. The hardest thing about this
job now is no one understands nuance there. You know,
when you hear a joke, when somebody's fooling around, when
they're not saying something specific, Especially on this show. I'm
very specific when I'm when I'm pointing stuff out, when
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I'm making jokes. You know, when I'm making jokes. This
is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Anyhood there's so mad. Why can't I just lie? It's wonderful, seatable,
Las
Okay, so that was a lot. I told you, it's
not the end of the world. Happened last night, and
it's not. My Exernivis just came on here and told
you that we should be concerned about the midterms. And
you know what, he's right too, we should be. So
maybe you're sitting there thinking, oh boy, what do I do? Well,
allow me to give you just a little bit of motivation.
(00:25):
It's going to spend a few much give you a
little bit of motivation. You know how terrible you remember,
of course, how terrible it was under the Biden administration,
not just talking about policies, how truly evil the government became.
These people just turned all the guns of the government
and aimed them at you, aimed them at me, aim
(00:46):
them at Trump. Just deployed the government against their political opponents. Truly,
truly you. But I want to remind you of this.
These people aren't sorry to this day, and I have
asked for this several times. I have asked for emails,
I've asked friends. To this day, I have not heard
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of a single Democrat in the United States of America,
not just people on TV, a single Democrat that has
expressed that maybe arresting Trump with a bunch of bogus
felony charges was wrong. Not one has come out and
said that was probably the wrong thing to do. They're
(01:30):
not sorry. This is James Comy on MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know Republicans these days aren't big in thinking about
principle or precedent. They're going to be deeply sorry that
that disappears, because someday there will be a Democratic president
and there'll be investigations of Republican officeholders. If I'm them,
I sure would want these career people in place making
sure that it's done in the right way. Look, I've
(01:56):
long thought that you could shrink the size of some
of the Department of Justice quarters units. But this is
like burning down the house and then standing in front
of the pile of ashes and saying, yeah, we really
did need to retile the guest path. Right. This is
destroying the place at a cost that's going to take
years and years to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
They're coming back harder if we give them power again.
Eric Holder, he's out there on the podcast circuit. Here's
what he said.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It pains me to say this. I think the Supreme
Court is a broken institution, and it's something that has
to be I think a part of the national conversation
in twenty six and in twenty eight, what are we
going to do about the Supreme Court? And I think
that we have to think about again talking about the
acquisition and the use of power. If there is a
democratic trifecta in twenty twenty eight, and I think the
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possibility of that is pretty good. Supreme Court reform is
something that has to be considered. Term limits, I think,
at a minimum, potentially expanding the court is something I
think that also should be should be considered.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
What we saw under the Biden administration was the warm
up act. Maybe you're recalling four years of evil when
you're saying to yourself, who can't believe we live through that?
Thank goodness, that's over. We never have to deal with
it again. No, no, no, no no. The only lesson the
(03:27):
communists learned from last time is he didn't hit you
hard enough. The only lesson these people learned is they
didn't do enough evil things. They didn't shred the constitution enough.
They didn't jail enough of their political opponents. That's the
only thing they learned. Last night, we took it on
(03:47):
the chip. I got that sucked the midterm elections. Maybe
they'll go our way, maybe they won't. But we have
starting right now, we have time to begin fighting back,
you personally, me personally. Are we going to get involved?
(04:07):
Are we going to knock on doors? We're going to
phone bank for candidates? If we have money, are we
going to donate to candidates and causes? Are we going
to do the blocking and tackling necessary to ensure we're
not wiped out at the midterms that decision gets made now.
I know everybody's licking their wounds today. I got it.
(04:29):
It's one thing for you or me to talk about
arctic frost.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
It's terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The FBI, what are they doing? Jack Smith? What did
they do? But it's another thing to actually be a
victim of all this. And our next guest is one
of the great congressmen we have, and we don't have
very many, and he was also a victim of this,
Congressman Scott Perry of the great State of Pennsylvania. Congressman.
For those who don't know who, I haven't seen you
on here before. I'm the floor is yours. You've more
(04:57):
than earned it. What did they do to you?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
What have well? Jesse thanks for having me on Arctic Frost,
so named for a variety of oranges. Just keep that
in mind. So Arctic Frost was an operation to persecute
and prosecute anybody involved with President Trump that had any
questions about the twenty twenty election. Now, of course I
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have thousands of constituents that called in, that came to
see me, that email, that wrote me, that had questions
and demanded me, as the representatives, speak for them and
ask these questions, which I did. The US government didn't
go after those thousands of people. But if your name
was Peter Navarro, if your name was Steve Bannon, if
your name was Scott Perry, if your name was a
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handful of Sundry senators, the Department of Justice came after
US and Christopher Ray authorized the operation, which means Merrick
Garland knew about it. And of course the intention was
to make sure that nobody ever questioned the Democrat Party
again or any election, and certainly to throw President Trump
(06:03):
in jail and make sure he never became president again.
I you know, it's it's political persecution on a scale
of places like Cuba, the Soviet Union, the Communist Party
of China, North Korea, that that's what happened in the
United States, and we just lived long enough to survive it.
And of course they all believe that President Trump wasn't
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going to come back, so they all believed they were
going to get away with it. But of course it's
unraveling as we speak.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
All right, let's let's focus on the unraveling, if you
don't mind. I love that the information is getting out there.
I love that evil actors are getting named, shamed, some
getting fired, but that's not near enough. It's you can't
use the FBI like like a political arm. That's how
nations end. It's that serious. What happens from here to
(06:55):
the bad guys anything.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Well, in my opinion, they need to be investigated by
the FBI and the Department of Justice, assuming they did
at least one thing which is likely violate the civil
rights of many individuals that were their political targets. They
need to be prosecuted for those crimes, and if found guilty,
they need to serve time for those crimes.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Congressman, the FBI, You're right, would kind of need the
FBI to look into the crimes. But the FBI is
the one that committed a lot of the crimes to
begin with. I understand we have new and much better
leadership at the top, but that's at the top. There's
still so much rot in there. Can we trust the FBI,
because I'll be honest, I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Well, I don't know that I'm ever going to fully
trust the FBI, And unfortunately, I think the rot goes
pretty deep. And like you said, you know the FBI
agent that walked up to our rental property on vacation
with you know, where me and my in laws, my
wife and my two girls were staying. He's been relee
(08:00):
of his job, as have others, but that's not nearly enough.
And I think, you know, as they build the case
and evidence becomes available, it is my hope that they
will start a criminal investigation, not just firing these people,
but a criminal investigation for, if nothing else, violation of
civil rights, which comes with a pretty heavy federal penalty.
(08:22):
And you're right, to a certain extent, to a great extent,
we're depending on the FBI and the Department of Justice
to do that, and only time will tell. And of course,
you know, we can't be satisfied with the fact that
many of us are relieved. Myself Jeff Clark, Peter Navarro, Bannon.
You know that we don't have the FBI and the
(08:44):
Department of Justice trying to bankrupt bankrupt us, destroy our reputation,
and throw us in jail. That's not enough. I mean,
we're glad that we're through that part, but we have
to send a signal that this can never happen again.
And the best way to do that is to make
sure that the people that were involved in it get
punished with real punishments, Which doesn't mean just losing your
(09:06):
job at the federal you know, at some federal agency
and then go getting a job at MSNBC or CNN.
It means going behind bars for at least the length
of the Trump presidency. After that, if there's a Democrat,
they're likely to be pardon because they're going to start
this stuff all over again. Likely, But these guys have
to know there's going to be consequences, and I think
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that's the only real answer to it.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
John Brennan's starting to look a lot like a man
who's pretty nervous. I'm sure you've already seen it here.
He was getting a little heated over the weekend. Why you.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Because you misrepresented that We never said it was this insipation.
It was Russian influence operations, which is what they do.
Is the difference between influence operation.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
No, you don't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You don't know the literature said.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
All the hallmarks.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
He looks like a man who maybe had one too
many beers and starting to think about jail.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, you know, look, we all in public life. No,
you don't put your finger in somebody's chest. And you
can have a dialogue about it.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Obviously he disagrees and dislike the narrative of the individual
that was questioning him. But you know, we know a
whole lot about John Brennan, and we at a minimum,
we know that he should have never had any control
of classified information, should never even have had a security clearance,
let alone been at the top of one of the
(10:37):
nation's security agencies. And I think we're going to find
out obviously that he was involved in this heavily. He
was involved in the sedition and the subversion around the
President of the United States and the president's agenda. It
is not treason because it you know, we don't have
an enemy, a so called enemy there were at war with,
but it is seditious activity, and he can be prosscuted
(11:00):
for it, and he should be.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Outstanding. I'm a chipman. Everybody who knows me would say
I'm a couple of things. One I'm a rope guy
and I'm a chip man. I love chips. I have
been this way since I was child. Not crackers, bratzels.
I want chips. But I'm forty four and I have
read the ingredients on the back of all those wonderful
(11:25):
chips I've eaten in my life. It's really really bad.
So you want an alternative. Is there is there a
healthy chip? And then you think to yourself, well, that's
going to be gross. I'm sure there is is a
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I first heard about Massive Chips, but my buddy Mike
Cernovich told me about it, I thought it's gonna be gross.
It's gonna be gross. He set me a box of them.
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a fortune. Enjoy. Well, we're not gonna let the Arctic
(12:15):
frost thing go that's the bad news. The good news
is somehow, some way, Missouri you wouldn't think it beat
Missouri has turned into the anti communist capital of the
United States of America. You would think of bet Texas
or something like maybe South Carolina, but they just keep
churning out studs. Senator Senator now Eric Schmidt joins us
from the great state of Missouri. Senator I'm thrilled you're there,
(12:37):
but I'm mad the FBI spied on you.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
What happened, Well, I mean I said it, and maybe
I understated that. This whole thing is like one hundred
times worse than Watergate if you put it in its
full context.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Jesse.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
You got at the beginning Russia Gate, of course in
twenty sixteen, Hunter Biden laptop suppression in twenty twenty to
make sure he did, and you get back and then
when they get in, they start censoring. And in three
days after President Trump announces he's running for president in
twenty twenty two, a couple of things happen. You got
(13:10):
the criminal prosecution Atlanta, criminal prosecution in New York. Then
Jack Smith is appointed, this known henchman. He's a total
dirt bag. Starts not just going after President Trump to
put him in jail for the rest of his life.
But this broad dragnet of I was chairman of the
Republican ag Association at the time. Charlie Kirk's organization subpoena's
phone records of sitting senators. This is crazy. This is crazy.
(13:32):
And Judge Boseberg, by the way, he's right in the
middle of all of it, with a special note in
the subpoenas not to notify the senators, which is likely
illegal and for sure should begin the House should begin
impeachment proceedings against Judge Boseburg for his conduct. So this
thing is broad, it's sweeping, it's the weaposation of government,
and we're still learning more. And if President Trump wouldn't
(13:55):
have won, all this stuff would still be happening, right,
And so anyway, we got to put a stop to it,
and people have to be held accountable.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Senator, can I ask you a little bit more about Boseburg,
because everyone knows that name now, because of course he
was front and center trying to stop everything Trump did
as soon as he got elected again. And if no
one was shocked to see that alien who was doing
all the things to you and other people on the right.
Can he be impeached? I know you're calling for it,
(14:24):
and I'm happy for it, but do we have the
guts on the right to get rid of these bad
judges because we can't fix anything with these judges here.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Right, Listen. I don't take that lightly. Like I don't
take it lightly, but like it's not impiachment is not
just some scarecrow like it actually has to mean something.
And to put that in further context, he was the
Faiza Court guy. He's the guy that gave a speech
before Trump got in office about how he's going to
thwart the agenda. Then he starts getting some of these cases.
(14:56):
He wasn't the assignment judge for that day, Like on
the big one, the you know, the illegal immigrant case
that he got, he was on vacation. Jesse got it
one in the morning, one in the morning. Was he
tipped off?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
We should probably find out. Then we find out this
arctic frost stuff, he's right in the center of it.
So absolutely the House should move forward with impeachment inquiry.
Then we come to the Senate. Now, do we have
enough votes in the Senate to ultimately get that done?
Or the enough Democrats or are gongree to that. I
don't know, but like at some point we got to
start doing something about these rogue judges.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Senator, the other bad actors. And there are just so
many to name, FBI agents, unistand many have been fired.
We have the James Comy so John Brennan's of the world.
I don't like to tell people ridiculous things that can't
happen and give people false hope. What level of accountability
can we bank on. I don't want to sit here
(15:50):
and say they're all going to prison. That's ridiculous and
not true. But someone has to go to prison for
all this. Is that possible?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:57):
And I try to That's why you and I get
along so well. I try to do the same thing.
I don't just try to throw the bombs out there
if there's nothing's gonna happen. But I do think, okay,
so the statute of limitations on, let's just take the
Russia Gate stuff and a lot of this stuff. The
statute limitation sadly has run on some of these crimes. However,
(16:19):
where I do think there's a real case to be
made and could be made, is on a conspiracy because
the statute of limitations essentially continues to run. So the
example I've given is, if you're a co conspirator in
mile marker one. Let's just say you made up a
bunch of stuff about Trump having ties to Russia that
you laundered through intelligence agencies like Comy, Brennan and Clapper.
(16:41):
Even though you leave government or you take an exit
ramp at mile marker five, you are still liable for
that criminal conduct that happens at mile marker ten. And
that's where we're at. So I do think you can
make a credible case that a conspiracy has ext existed
now for almost ten years that was based on you know,
trumped up documents in fake charges against you know, him
(17:03):
being a Russian asset, and all you think of all
the things that happened to try to sideline a presidential candidate,
then a presidency, and then a guy running for reelection.
I do think something can happen from there, and it should.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I love not paying Verizon, AT and T or T
Mobile anymore. You know, I've had all three of them.
Not terrible. My first cell phone company was AT and T,
switched to Verizon, then switched to Team BOFO. So I've
had them all, not judging you, but man, when I've
looked at their political activism, all the esg DEI feelth
(17:38):
it kind of settens me to know that I funded
all that. Every month sitting there paying my bill on
my cell phone, funding communism. I don't do that anymore.
I'd switched to pure Talk, the company led by a
Vietnam veteran, two tours with mac b sog and Vietnam.
The company that hires Americans, and boy is that rare anymore.
(17:59):
All these other companies they love to farm out American jobs,
not Puretalk. When you get a hold of pure Talk,
you'll talk to one American. Switch your cell phone service,
you'll save money. Go to puretalk, dot com, slash Jesse TV.
(18:23):
This Arctic frost thing, I shouldn't say it's a big deal.
It is. It's the biggest deal in the world. But
is it big enough? Meaning? Is are people going to
be going to prison for this? Because they have to?
We can't have a secret police agency operating like this
inside the country. Joining me now, somebody who was most
definitely targeted by this whole thing, great Senator from the
(18:44):
State of Tennessee Senator, Marshall Blackburn, Senator, you were one
of the people in the crosshairs of the Federal Bureau
of Investigation for the dastardly crime of talking to Donald Trump.
Could you break this down for us in more detail
what happened?
Speaker 8 (18:59):
You got it? I will, And as you say, it
is a big deal, and it's bigger than Watergate, and
it's far more expensive than Watergate. And as we go
through this, I think the American people are going to
see it. We're actually going to do a press conference
this afternoon. Here is what we do know. Jack Smith
(19:19):
was named a special Council after a memo was written
by Chris Ray, then the director of the FBI, saying,
we think there could possibly have been some kind of
conversation between some conservative members and President Donald Trump, and
(19:41):
it all centers around the twenty twenty election. So what
we want to do is do some investigating to see
if there could possibly maybe might have been some kind
of activity. So they on April fourth of twenty two,
you have this memo written by and the next day
(20:02):
Lisa Monico, the Deputy Attorney General at the time, to
Merrick Garland, the Attorney General. Lisa Monico says I'm signing
off on this, YU should too, and Merrick Garland signs off.
So then Jack Smith is appointed as the special counsel
and he starts his fishing expedition. And what they did
(20:22):
was despy on eight US Senators. The commonality there is
where all Republicans who support President Trump and had valid
questions about the twenty twenty election. It was a total
fishing expedition. There is no predicate for them doing this.
They went to a judge, they got a subpoena. They
(20:43):
go to our wireless carriers. Now AT and T moved
to Quash and they challenged the subpoena and Jack Smith's
people back down. Verizon, my carrier, did not, and therefore
they turned over the records of every call I either
made or received, who the call was from, the duration
(21:06):
of the phone, the call, the number of the phone,
and the physical location where I was standing when I
either made or received that phone call. It is an
invasion and a violation of my First Amendment and Fourth
Amendment rights, the Speech and Debate Clause, the separation of powers,
(21:28):
and also the Stored Communication Act.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Senator, Obviously, we want to live in a country where
everybody's treated equally under the law and whatnot. But also
I am understanding that you have a bit more of
an important job than I do to do this to
United States Senator. It's so brazen. This has to be criminal, right,
And I don't want to sound naive because I understand
(21:54):
you said a judge signed off on it. But we
are supposed to live in a system where this kind
of thing can't happen, even if you have a scumbag
in charge of the FBI or Lisa Monico doing the
things of Lisa Monico has always done. There should be
laws that stop this. Why weren't there that stop this?
Speaker 8 (22:11):
And it is a violation, and yes, it is a
criminal and that is why my colleagues and I have
written to the current ag Pambondi and have asked for
a referral of Jack Smith to the Office of Professional
Conduct at the DOJ. It is also when cash Bettel
(22:33):
didn't waste any time. He fired every single one of
these staff attorneys and staff members that were part of
that CR fifteen unit that worked with Jack Smith, and
is also why I've written the DC bar with a
letter of complaint about Jack Smith. He should be disbarred
(22:55):
and he should be prosecuted to the full extent of
the law, a law, with every member of his team
that carried this out. And we know that they have
also spied on over one hundred conservative organizations. And here's
the thing. If they're going to do this to eight
(23:17):
sitting US senators, senators and it is unlawful to do this,
then what are they going to do to conservatives all
across this country that do not share their opinion? Or
if you have some FBI field office that has somebody
in it that doesn't like a member of a somebody
(23:42):
in their community, or a member of their church, or
the family of somebody that's in an elected office, think
about the power that they have to just really wreck
people's lives. We need one tier of justice, Lady, justice
is blindfolded. It should be equal access, equal treatment, equal justice.
(24:09):
And the Democrats carried out weaponization of the DOJ and
the FBI. They carried it out against us, and we
are going to get to the bottom of it. So
we end this. No one, no Democrat, Republican, independent, Green Party, whatever,
no one should be subject to this kind of treatment.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What about Christopher Ray? You can't use the Federal Bureau
of Investigation as your little plaything to help Democrats out
and attack Republicans. That is honestly that that is a crime,
in my opinion, that is worse than murder. That is
maybe the worst crime in the United States you can
commit because of the power that comes with the position.
When does Christopher Ray go behind bars?
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Well, and he is someone that we will bring forward
in our hearings, and we've got a meeting as to
how we at Judiciary Committee are going to move forward
on this, if we're going to compel people or end
up subpoena wing people to come before us and have
them under oath. But the fact that he's the one
(25:13):
that wrote the memo that got Arctic Frost started. He
wrote the memo and the language in it, and it
is on my social media Marshall Blackburn, and it's also
on our Blackburn dot send it dot gov website. People
can pull it up, they can look at it and
read and just see how nebulous a lot of this
(25:36):
language is and how wide ranging. He wrote it so
that you could scoop up people and then go scrape
information and try to get a subpoena and get their
phone records and then try to track everybody they were
talking to and how long they were on the phone
(25:56):
with that individual. And if they call person A and
talk to them, then did they call person B? And
then did they did they call person A back? Or
did they bring in person C? And they I mean
and where I was physically located? And I was I
at home. This is just one of those things you say,
(26:19):
how could something have been this invasive and this intrusive
and they think they're going to get by with it,
And you know what, had Kamala Harris won the election,
we would never know how weaponized the Department of Justice
and the FBI was not only under Joe Biden, but
(26:41):
under Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Senator shifting gears away from this, did someone try to
kill you?
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Well, guess we have someone who has is on house arrest.
At this point. That is about all I can say
about it because it's gone to a grain jury.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, all right, then I'm not going to ask you
to ruin that whole thing. Let's shift gears to this shutdown.
I don't see how it ends. The Democrats know it
has to end, but their base is going to freak
out on them if they end the freaking thing. It
seems like they're stuck.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
I Chuck Schumer had planned this shutdown for months. That's
why it's the Schumer shutdown. Basically, the Democrats decided to
go on strike and closed down the federal government. It's
like they're fill of bustering moving forward on appropriations bills,
even though they're saying they're shutting down the government because
(27:45):
they want to get some things done on healthcare. Well,
as you know, Jesse, you can't talk about what is
going to be covered by federal appropriations unless you are
working on the appropriations bills. So they shut down the
government because they say they want to work on healthcare,
but you can't do it because the government is shut down.
(28:06):
So the whole thing is ridiculous. And now we're up
against the deadline with snap benefits. They run out on Saturday,
November first. People are going to swipe those EBT cards
and there will be nothing there. So in Tennessee, we've
been talking to a lot of the food banks and
elected officials and people that are involved. Churches are doing
(28:31):
food drives for some of the food banks, and we
know that people are stepping up to fill the gap.
We've got about seven hundred thousand families across the state
that are receiving their SNAP and WIC benefits.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Senator, thank you as always, ma'am. Stay safe out there.
I love sleeping. I slept again like a little baby
last night, and I had had It's a long story.
I had to meet somebody for coffee in the afternoon,
so I had a cup of coffee three four in
the afternoon, and already I'm thinking to myself, crap, I'm
not gonna be able to sleep. But I slept like
(29:13):
a baby. How did I pull that off? About nine
o'clock last night, watching a little show with aub made
myself a little cup hot chocolate from dream powder. That's
what dream powder is from Beam. It's hot chocolate. Mine
is cinnamon. Chocolate's my favorite. It's delicious. You would never
know there's anything to it, but it has all these
(29:33):
natural things in it. You'll just drift off to sleep
twenty thirty minutes. About how long it takes me. I'll
just eyes will start getting a little heavy, and I
go knock out, and I wake up feeling like a
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(29:54):
Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
It was, you know, not expected to be a victory.
It was very democratic areas. But I don't think it
was good for Republicans. I don't think it was good.
I'm not sure it was good for anybody. But we
had an interesting evening and we learned a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Interesting. Certainly wasn't good. I just reemphasized what I said
in the open that it was bad. We've had bad
nights four. I'm not sure that it spells doom. Mike Cernovich,
my friend Mike Seravic is joining us right now. Thinks
that we are in some trouble if some things don't change,
and I think he deserves the floor, Mike, the floor
(30:42):
is yours. Well.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I felt that way the minute Trump won I posted
November eleventh, twenty twenty four. Somebody could find that tweet
that we need to worry about the midterms. So here,
here's here's the thing that everybody, all the not you,
but the consultant class misses.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
They go.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Trump drives Democrat turnout when he's on the ballot, but
Sherberty drives a Republican turnout. So if you look at
twenty sixteen Trump ones GOP has a trifecta twenty eighteen,
Trump's off ballot blue wave twenty twenty. Republicans. Remember, in
twenty twenty, Republicans were supposed to lose the Senate and
the House, right, that was a prediction. No, the only
(31:23):
person who lost in twenty twenty was Trump, right, which
is why a lot of people, myself included, Even if
you didn't buy the really kooky theories of all the
Stone election, you did say, well, how is it that
the Senate stayed Republican? But somehow Trump lost? Okay, special elections,
(31:44):
Trump's out on ballot Georgia loses. Two sentences, twenty twenty two,
What happens twenty twenty four?
Speaker 8 (31:50):
What happens?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So what?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
The GOP does not exist. It is the Trump Party.
It is Trump's GOP. So even if last night you
hadn't happened, I was already worried about the midterms. I
was worried about the midterms the week Trump won, I
was like it, I'm always like the Cassandra. I tried
to be like a Debbie Downer because people who know
me know that I'm a pretty upby guy. But what's
(32:14):
our plan to win? In twenty twenty six, but Trump
off the ballot, and then of course last night was
a bad night.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Okay, Mike, So what is it about the GOP voter
that is uniquely motivated to vote for Trump? To your point,
but when Donald Trump's name is not on there, he's
just not interested. He cares about these issues when Trump
is on the ballot, but doesn't when he's not. Helped
me understand.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Actually, I was getting coffee and I was sort of
thinking what we talk about, and I was going to
ask you the question, if your job weren't politics and media,
would you vote in the twenty twenty six midterms?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I would, but I've vote in every single election because
I think it batters. I think it's extremely important. Of
Course I would.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
But you had a pause. You're just like, it's not like, well,
of course I would. Why wouldn't I Why wouldn't I
be hyped?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Right?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Trump voters are hyped to vote. If I said a
week before twenty twenty four, you're gonna vote, You're like,
what kind of stupid idiotic? Quite, of course, obviously, obviously
I'm gonna vote, right obviously in twenty twenty six, It's like, well, intellectually,
I know that it's important and there are real problems
if I don't vote, and you run it through your head,
(33:36):
but you don't feel it right, you don't feel in
your heart. And that's everybody for just being honest. It's like,
if you were honest, not you. But I'm just saying,
like the collective, the royal we right, if we're all
being honest, we would say, I mean, yeah, I get it.
You gotta vote Republican because look at what Schumer did.
But people who don't live in politics and media don't
(33:58):
go vote because of that right. They don't go vote
because of that. They need to feel a calling, they
need to feel an energy and a momentum to go
out and vote, and that doesn't happen with Trump down
on the ballot. So then to be positive, how can
Republicans draw out more voters? Well, they could do They
(34:19):
could do Republican things like I'm seeing right now Ted Cruz, who,
by the way, I'm ninety percent Ted Cruz. When Ted
Cruse had a close race with Betto obviously I was like,
this is crazy. You have to vote for Ted Cruse
and everything, But I'm against this trend of people in
the Senate being podcasters and influencers. Right, you're in the Senate.
(34:40):
I can post about things, Jesse Kelly. We can be
on Twitter all day, you know. And I know that
they have to do some kind of media. So I'm
not saying some media, but do things in the Senate
that make people want to vote. What's Mike Johnson really doing?
They always have an excuse, Oh, we need sixty votes,
we can't do anything. In twenty twenty four, they were
(35:01):
gonna have sixty votes for anesty because you couldn't close
the border without remember that. This is why I'm tired
of being gas lit by Mike Johnson and Ted CRUs
and everybody. At twenty twenty four, Lindsey Graham and Langford
fun Fool foo Fool, whatever his name is. They all said,
we can't shut the border unless we can do amnesty.
It's only only way to do it. But we better
(35:23):
come out in twenty twenty six because because why because why?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Okay, so let's talk domestically, Mike, because you've been making
this point, and I'll be honest with you. I'm looking
at a stack of I don't know how many emails,
and there are a lot of these emails from people
who make the point that you have been ranting about
online about a domestic focus from Trump and the GOP
that that people they're even fine with, you know, go
(35:54):
drop some bombs on it. Ran sounds fine whatever, But
they don't care about that deeply. They care that they
can't afford to go see their mother on vacation, they
can't afford groceries, they can't afford a pound of burger,
and they don't see a lot of movement on those things.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
No, they they don't see No. And I'm having people
texting me like Chuck roast is expensive now, which goes
to show what people are thinking about economically. They're they're
not focused on the foreign stuff. The foreign stuff. This
the deal, the deal that was struck in twenty twenty
four that should have been struck was Hey, look, people
(36:32):
like me, I don't care about Israel. I don't really
My opinion on Israel would probably get me canceled because
it's it's pretty it's not anti Israel. It's probably so
pro Israel that it would make me look like a ghoul.
You know, but you got to carry your own weight,
you know. Israel's got to wrap this stuff up. They
got to wrap it up. I'm not here scolding you
(36:53):
or doing the moralizing. This is what war looked like.
We've just never had a live stream. But you can't
do propaganda for the other side every day. You can't
give them more video footage every day. You gotta wrap
it up, and then we gotta go domestic. That was
the deal, stated and unstated. And yet here we are.
You're after Trump's election. And if you asked the average
(37:14):
man on the street, not the DC policy wonk, if
you ask the average man on the street, what has
Trump's priority been over the last year, They're gonna say, well, Ukraine, Israel,
the Nobel Peace Prize. That's what they're gonna say. And
it sounds like that's what your audience is saying too.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
A lot of your audience, it is.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I hear a lot of it, Mike. And and this
is what has concerned me with the Venezuela stuff. The
normal person. I'm not talking about the normal Kami who
Trump's the devil all that stuff, And I'm talking about
normal people, the people that I talked to in my
life that I don't hang around with political people. When
they brought up Venezuela. Everyone likes a little video on
(37:53):
their phone of a drug boat getting incinerated. No one's
crying for those dirt balls. But I got asked a
lot why why why are we down there? Why are
we messing with it? It's not that it's not a
righteous cause. I got a lot of well why do
I care? There's a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Especially when we know that Fittanel's not coming primarily from Venezuela.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
It's another instance where yeah, I'm the same way. I
think we shouldn't have gone to the Middle East. I
think that we should have taken over most of Latin
America and Southern America and run as part of the
Roman Empire. That's my view. But now people have no
appetite for regime change war. Another side quest in other
(38:38):
foreign policy. Okay, we got Ukraine, we have Israeli Kee, fine,
can we do domestic issues? No, We're going to do
regime change war.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
I know that there's going to be a lot of people,
myself included, who could counteract my argument by listening everything done.
And my answer to that is, I understand that I'm
not saying this is my personal belief. I'm telling you
that what we know is not what the average person
and the voters who come out for Trump, they're not
(39:06):
experiencing the same thing because they don't have all data
monitor this stuff. Right, you got to look at people
are busy, people got stuff going on. Times, they're tough,
a lot of people are working two jobs. What information
is getting filtered down to them? And it's almost it's
almost nothing. Even though me, I could, I could list off,
I could make the case for why Trump is the
(39:26):
best president of my lifetime. I could do that standing
on my head while also thinking we're gonna lose the
midterms unless we turn this around.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Can we turn it around by the midterms, Mike? Can
we make the necessary adjustments and get the things done
to get it done? Or is this, you know, fighting
the ocean? Is it inevitable?
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It's not inevitable. We got a year of mondami, so
we got mandami for a year. We got a lot
of things that can go bad for the Democrats over
the next year. Right, A lot can happen any year.
How's the quote go Nothing happens in a year, and
then year's happened in a decade or decades? Happened in
(40:08):
a year something something like that could happen. But the
Venezuela thing could go sideway. The problem with Venezuela. Even
though I'm again i'm not opposed to regime change wars,
I'm probably I have a very Roman mindset about a
lot of this stuff. I just think that if we're
gonna go over there, you have to run.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
It like a colony.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
You have to colonize it, which is why people forget
we won. People say, oh, we lost the war in Afghanistan.
It's like the military didn't lose, it was an occupation
because people are afraid to be colonized as so. I'm
not some anti colony woke guy, but a lot can
go wrong in the Venezuela thing.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
And what can go right?
Speaker 5 (40:46):
We already got the oil deal that we need, So
what exactly is the win versus American troops could die? Well,
then we're gonna have to retaliate. Are we gonna be
in a hot war with Venezuela?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What the world?
Speaker 7 (41:00):
Right?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
What's our upside here? That's kind of what people are seeing.
And if Trump doesn't come home, so to speak, then
we are looking at a Democrat midterm win and we
are looking at more impeachment and we are looking at
a you know, repeat of the hell of the Adam
Schiff era.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeh gosh, Mike as always, thank you, brother, I appreciate you.
Speaker 9 (41:34):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's time to lighten the mood. And I keep using
this term because it makes me sound smart, litigious. You've
heard this term before previously, those of us on the right.
Maybe you call yourself a conservative. We didn't like the
idea of suing people. You can't sue people, shouldn't sue people.
That's what the left does. But the truth is that
(41:55):
it is an effective tool against people, especially people in
the media, who line about you. You're you're not allowed.
You shouldn't be allowed to use these big public platforms
to tell outright lies. And Donald Trump, to his credit,
is litigious. He started suing all these big media companies
(42:16):
and getting multimillion dollars settlements because they would just get
up and tell gigantic lies. Now the communist relies on lies.
We talk about this all the time. He builds and
maintains a world of make believe for his brain dead followers.
Your liberal ant, Peggy believes a bunch of things that
aren't real. Because we have started to sue when they
(42:38):
tell outright lies. We now are treated routinely to legal
disclaimers like this one on the view.
Speaker 10 (42:45):
The Trump family has made about one point eight billion
dollars profited off of this government. And he said that
Joe Biden didn't know who he was partning using an
autopen How come you don't know who this guy is?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Does he used an order?
Speaker 8 (43:00):
Lend me that, lend me meet.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
With the judge the meetings that are they're supposed to
go to when they're listening to what the hell what
passes notes? You don't know if pen use, if Trump
used an autopenapart it.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Was a joke.
Speaker 10 (43:17):
We don't know if Trump us an autopen our line,
but we do know that he didn't know who that
crypto guy was.
Speaker 7 (43:24):
Well, I'm sorry. You know. The hardest thing about this
job now is no one understands nuance there. You know,
when you hear a joke, when somebody's fooling around, when
they're not saying something specific, Especially on this show. I'm
very specific when I'm when I'm pointing stuff out, when
(43:46):
I'm making jokes. You know, when I'm making jokes. This
is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Anyhood there's so mad. Why can't I just lie? It's wonderful, seatable,
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