July 16, 2024 • 38 mins
Parties change with the people, you might end up politically homeless. Kevin Roberts with the Heritage foundation and what exactly is project 2025. Michael Knowles, cigar smuggler, and what the RNC is now.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
On a Tuesday, and there is a turn to tackle
on a Tuesday. First, who's speaking at the convention?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Are you upset about it?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They have teamsters here, They have a scantily clad young
lady here who has an OnlyFans profiled.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Do these things make you angry? We're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
In fact, in the opening tonight, Secret Service, the head
of the Secret Service, Kim Cheatle, won't resign. We're gonna
have a bigger conversation about that. What it means, what
it reveals about our government. Poll numbers that are going
to make your jaw drop and hair fallout, just like
mine when we talk about the post shooting polls. All that,
(01:04):
so much more coming up tonight on the world famous
Jesse Kelly's show. That and of course you know we're
gonna throw in some Biden stuff. But I didn't plan
them on it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's because when I in twenty twenty, when I like,
when broadcasting your vice president.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
All that. Oh, I should also note Michael Knowle's coming
up about a half hour from now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Kevin Roberts with Heritage coming up later.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Who knows what else will throw in tonight on the
world famous Jesse Kelly Show. I want to begin here, though,
because my email inbox is full today. It's full of
happy thoughts and negative thoughts about what's happening at the convention.
I realize you're not at the convention. I get that,
but you're probably watching it. Everyone's watching it. My wife's
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watching it. Everyone's watching it. They want to watch the
Trump speeches. They want to watch this speech, that speech.
This is especially in the wake of that Assassin Nation attempt.
This is our super Bowl. Is such an overused cliche,
but that's kind of what it is. If you're a
political person and you come here, that's what it feels like.
Freaking security anywhere. The cops had to murk some homeless
dude today who got in a bum knife.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Fight and everything. It was wild.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So that's what it's like. It's crazy. You should know
that I was fine. I was inside eating at the time.
I'm never going to find that shocking, but I was
eating anyway. See yesterday, the head of the Teamsters Teamsters
union gets up gives a.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Speech at the convention.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It wasn't a raw raw I'm voting Republican now. Speech.
But you know, Teamster's Union, very very powerful union, union
that goes Democrat almost every single time, and a lot
of people were very happy about it. A lot of
people were very upset about it. Jesse, the Teamster's president, seriously,
I'm very concerned about this. He was praising Josh Holly
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for changing his view on right to work, the idea
that employees should be forced to pay dues to an organization.
They're opposed to his fascism at his finest. Who is
this guy speaking at the RNC. Just when I think
the GOP has all the momentum, they shoot themselves in
the face. Talk me out the ledge. I've got all
kinds of things like that, and it's not unique. You
should know. To the Teamsters Junior, there's a young lady,
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and I admit, if I try to talk about this
with any amount of depth, with any degree of depth,
you're just going to laugh me off the radio, because,
as you know, I'm forty two going on ninety two.
Amber Rose. Who's Amber Rose? I think she was married
to Kanye or dated Kanye something along those lines. She
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dates rappers, She.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Has a.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Porn an adult adult themed page that is still active
to this day. So certainly not your normal speaker at
a Republican convention. She gets up and speaks as well,
and a lot of people are vain, very upset about it.
Some are thrilled about it. Hey, big tent. Some are
very upset about it. Hey, is this what we stand
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for now? Is this what we are? Cultural values? Okay,
so I'm gonna say something. I'm just gonna lay all
this out. Maybe you'll love it, maybe you'll hate it.
But here's the reality of life. Political parties, different political parties,
as you know, that's not an American phenomenon. That's the
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entire history of the world. When you have nations of
any size, I mean were You can read old arguments.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
If you're reading about.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Sitting buls A Sitting bul is having arguments with his
people about there's a faction who wants to go this
route and a faction who wants to go that route.
Political parties are the way societies go. We feel the
society should go more this way, but we over here
feel society should go more this way. And political parties
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changing with the times is also the entire history of
the world, including the entire history of the United States
of America.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Republican Party Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
They've both gone through gigantic changes right left, middle otherwise
throughout the history of this country. This is what happens
when the people of a nation change. One of my
larger points I want to make I'm gonna make right
now on this. The parties change with the people. The
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parties change with the people. Here's a big one. Here's
a big one. We're gonna come back, I believe me.
I'm gonna. I'm gonna we're gonna talk about this in
more depth. But here's here's a big example of this.
The Republican Party, for the majority of my life, For
the majority of my life, with the exception of the
libertarian wing of that party, well of which you may
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be I probably am more that wing. But with the
exception of that wing, the Republican Party has been a
global war on terror loving party. We just we have been.
We have been. Yes, let's get to Afghanistan. Yes, let's
get to Iraq, kill them all, let God sort them out,
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go everywhere. For most of my life, that kind of
neo conservative, that's how you describe that way of thinking.
That has been the history of the Republican Party for
my lifetime, but prior to my lifetime, that would have
been the antithesis of everything the Republican Party had traditionally
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stood for up until that time. The GOP for most
of its history before that was hands off, gloves off,
mind our own business, a much more traditionally American way
of thinking. If you're my age, if you're forty two,
that may come as a shock to you because that's
that's the only GOP you've ever known. But if you're
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seventy eighty, you saw a different GOP when you were younger. Okay,
so the party's changed. The Democrat Party, we're gonna come
back to us. I'm gonna get there. The Democrat Party,
they're changing too rapidly for the worse. But they're changing too.
As they get more and more radical, the radicals within
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their party are getting more and more representation, more representation
than they used to have. If you went back to
you don't even have to go to ancient history. If
you went back to the year two thousand and you
went combing through every Democrat congressman and senator's staffers. Forget
about the senator, the senators or congressmen themselves, you just
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went through their staffers. Would you find an admitted Maoist
in there somewhere? Probably you'd find probably an admitted Maoist
in there, somebody who who loved Karl Marx or something
that you would have found one or two in the
year two thousand if you went down that list of staffers.
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If you went down that list of staffers today, you
went through every Democrat staff and the Senate in the
House of Representatives, you went down that list today, you
would find Maoist after Maoist after Maoist admitted. We're not
talking about just somebody I'm accusing of being at admitted. Yeah,
I love mao Go Lennin. You would find a long,
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long list of them. Why. Well, let's discuss the why,
because this is going to come back to the Republican Party.
And this is going to come back to the changes
you're seeing now in the Republican Party. Whether you love
those changes or hate those changes. Why did the Democrat
Party change in that way? Why have they gone harder left?
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You can go look at video tape of Barack Obama
standing against gay marriage right like right when he got elected. Today,
they're all about kids gutting their penises off. How did
that change so fast? We're gonna talk about how, and
then we're gonna address the GOP changes. Okay, before we
do that, let's talk about some changes that we need
to make, changes in how we think. Because we all
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you're just now joining us. We're talking about Okay, so
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the Teamster's president spoke at the convention. A lot of
people are mad about it. Young lady who has an
adult website still spoke at the convention. Amber Rose upset
about it. I haven't really addressed that part specifically yet.
I'm getting there. But we're addressing the realignment of the
parties right now. So Democrats they went hard left and
really really fast, and how did that happen? And how
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is going to be important here before we get to
the Republican Party. How did they turn into maoists in
the last thirty years. Well, it's all a matter of
how they participate in primaries. I know I come back
to this again and again and again, but that's really
the truth. The truth is the hard corese the communist
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wing of the Democrat Party. They care about destroying the country.
They care about it a lot. They'll do whatever they
have to do to do that. And when primary day comes,
they're not watching the game. They're not too busy. They're
there and they have succeeded in yanking their party to
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the left. They go out, they participate in primaries, and
because they participate, participate in primaries, they have remade the
party in their image. The image of the party is
being made into the image of its most committed followers.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Get that.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's how it works. The most committed Democrats are the
ones who are remaking the Democrat Party, which brings us
to us. Are you mad that the teamsters spoke, Mad
that this young lady amber Rose spoke.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Okay, I understand that. I'm not telling you not to
be I'm really not.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
First, let's address this electorally electorally, and we're gonna get
to the party platform part of this electorally. It's a
very sharp move because even if you don't get the
teamsters for you. You've denied them to Joe Biden that
he was banking on that endorsement. And we're talking about
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rust belt union heavy swing states Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. Joe
Biden might need to clean sweep those states to beat
Donald Trump. If you can do things to deny him
his voting block, that's smart. That's one as far as
the amber Rose they get. So let's just talk about
the Republican Party. Our party is changing. Our party. I'm
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an anti communist, I'm not even a Republican. Republican Party
is changing. It is changing. It is not going to
look like it did five years ago. It is not
going to look like it did ten years ago. The
Republican Party is changing, and it is changing in ways
you may love, and there's a chance it's changing in
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ways you may find completely unacceptable. After the two parties
are done playing their little political musical chairs, which they're
playing now, you have to prepare yourself for the possibility
that you don't have a major political party that really
represents you or your values. That is a real chance,
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and that doesn't mean you need to change. And I'm
not saying the parties need to change. I'm talking about
the simple, brutal reality of life.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Remember, it's not your mommy's show, it sha daddy's show.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Here's the truth.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
If you are a.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Cultural or cultural conservative, you're one of the people really
hardcore on the social value stuff. Your marriage is between
a man and a woman, a hugely pro life when
it comes to that, you know, adult lady, adult adult
website lad. I'm not even sure how I'm supposed to
address it here. When it comes to things like that,
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If that is the kind of thing you are absolutely
out on, no, on, No, you don't want your kids
see to it, you don't want it to be part
of the party. If that's a huge for you, then
you very likely maybe politically homeless going forward. It's not
an accident. They remade the Republican Party platform. They promptly
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stripped out anything that had to do with abortion at all.
They stripped out anything that had to do with all
the LGBTQ stuff at all.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
These things were just done recently. They have taken the
social conservative, cultural conservative, however you want to put it,
and they have stripped that stuff out of the party platform.
Is that a permanent stripping? I don't know, but it
looks like that is.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
At least for the time being, the plan for the
National GOP. I didn't say it was your plan. I
didn't say it should be. But if that is where
you fall, if those.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Are big, big deals for.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You, you might not like where we are going from here.
And I don't have I don't really have something I
can tell you now. If that's you speaking specifically to you,
if that hurts you, if you're sitting there saying, Jesse,
I've been a pro lifer for a long time, I
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can't support a party like this, Jesse. I'm big on
the nuclear family, marriage between a man and a woman.
If the Republican Party is going to go against that,
I can't support it. Okay, I'm not. I'm not here
to try to turn you into Tom or tear a Republican.
I'm not here to do that. I'm here to tell
you the truth. As far as the Republican Party goes,
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they're not going that direction. They're just not. It's going
to be more of a nationalist, populist Republican Party going
forward from here. And for traditional conservatives, if you're one
of these people who calls yourself a traditional conservative. There
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are going to be parts of that you will like,
and they are going to be parts of that you
will hate.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You if you're a traditional hardcore.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Right winger, you're probably going to like the national populist
views on things like uh, immigration more than you did
the old GOP. The old GOP was always super squishy
and soft and weak and pathetic when it came to that.
A nationalist populist GOP is going to be better when
it comes to those things. The poort um, build the wall,
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things like that. So those things, those things may appeal
to you. But if you're a debt conscious person, you
know that's a big thing for me. You care a
lot about the debt loop. There's a chance you're going
to be homeless. I don't know whether any of that
or all that made you feel better or made you
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feel worse. But times are a change in not just
for the country, for both political parties and you me,
we're just gonna have to figure it out going forward.
We land and all that. Maybe we'll find a soft
spot to land, maybe we will not. All right, all right,
I think we have Michael Knowles coming on next and
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so that's always a good time to talk to Michael
and then we'll talk until more about this stuff. I
want to get to the secret service angle. Before we
do that, I want to get to your dog. You see,
I don't want your dog to die. My buddy yesterday
just had to put his dog down and I'm in Wisconsin,
so I didn't get a chance to be with him,
which sucks because that was. If there was ever a
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time your buddy needs to pat on the back and
a beer, it was a time. But it's just brought
it all back to me how much it hurts when
you're freaking dog dies. Man, It just it guts you.
Rough Greens the all natural nutritional supplement for your dog.
The reason I give rough Greens to Fred is because
I know that that day will come. There's nothing that
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can stop that Fred's gonna die. I want that day
to be as far away as humanly possible. Honestly, thinking
about the look on my wife's face, my kid's face,
I want to hold off on that. Don't you put
rough Greens on your dog's food. Roughgreens dot com, slash Jesse,
or you can call him eight three three three three,
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my dog. We'll be back fighting for your freedom every day.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show, and I am pleased
to welcome. I was about to say here in the studio,
but it's more like on the studio we're performing in
front of other people, like monkeys in a zoo. Michael Knowles,
of course, of the Daily Wire. Only now apparently he
is a tobacco smuggler.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I didn't get all the details before him.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I want that to go on my tombstone. Here lies
Michael Knowles, cigar salesman, like.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
A cigar salesman. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Now I have to ask before we get into politics.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What I know you like to smoke cigars. I knew
that's your thing.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But wait, what, Jesse.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
The body is a temple and the temple needs incense. Okay,
and you can get your incense at Mayflower Cigars dot Com.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I kid you not, that's so shameless high.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Since I was a kid, you know, I started smoking
cigars kind of late for an Italian from New York.
I started at about fifteen, though I would never encourage
anyone twenty nine years old, whatever the government tells you,
but I started kind of early. I wrote my college
admissions essay about how much I love cigars. I look
a bit swarthy, but some of my family was on
the Mayflower that's where we get the company name from.
And DW decided to back me in it because it
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didn't cost them any money and they.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Knew we'd sell a zillion cigars.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And I am really honored to say I want to
thank your listeners, maybe many of whom have bought the cigars.
It became, I think the biggest boutique's brand cigar launch
in the history of tobacco.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'll take you which mafia family are you associated? We
are the Columbos. Actually, yeah, that's good. We talked about
them some last night. That's good. All right, all right, Michael,
I open up the show. I got a bunch of emails.
I'm sure you've got a bunch of emails about the
different speakers at the convention, the more non traditional speakers
at the convention. Yeah, the teams there's on. You know,
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Amber Rose is there. And what I tried to explain
to people is, whether you like it or not, the
Democrat Party is being remade. Times change parties change. The
Republican Party is also being remade. And if you're a
more socially conservative, socially right winger like I definitely am.
You may end up finding yourself homeless as we move
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forward here. That's just the reality of life. Love it
or hey, it's reality where we're going.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I totally agree with you in principle. I am a
little more hopeful.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Though.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
You look at someone like JD. Vance who gets picked
as the VP. He is a pretty socially conservative candidate,
you know. He In many ways, I think he and
Trump represent not a radical departure from Republican orthodoxy. It's
a change from the last thirty years, but in many
ways it's a restoration of the og Republican orthodoxy. You know,
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when the party was founded and Abraham Lincoln is our
first president. The GOP was pro tariff, the GOP has
been in favor of immigration restriction. The GOP has been
skeptical of foreign wars for a lot of its existence.
So I think you're seeing some of that comeback now.
Some of the social conservatives, and again it's hard to
be more socially conservative than I am. But they said,
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I hate it that this woman amber Rose spoke. I
had never heard of amber Rose in my life. Some
people looked at Some people looked at me skeptically.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
I said, no, really, I have never heard of her.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
But but look, had she come out and endorsed abortion
or something, Wo've been quite offended by that. Had she
come out and promoted pornography or something, I would have
been very offended. What did she say? She said, Hey,
I don't look like a usual GOP voter. I was
lied to by the media. I was told he's a racist,
bad guy, and he's not.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
He's a good guy.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And people who look like me, who probably have voted
for Democrats in the past, they should vote for Trump.
And that's all she said. And I thought, what am
I supposed to complain about there?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, look, that's what I've been trying to tell, trying
to talk people off the ledge with this might be
where we're going. And because we are in a general election,
I didn't get to this point of it. But now
that we're in a general election, there's going to be
coalition building that makes the hardcores like us uncomfortable. There
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is that you're going to have a Teamster guy. If
the head of the Teamsters wants to come speak, I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know what I'm come to speak. It's just the
way it is.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You have to make some friends you don't necessarily want
to make in a general election.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And you know, for Donald Trump to come out and say,
we're not going to talk that much about abortion, okay,
if you're I'm very pro life, and so you know,
I'd like talking about abortion all day. Well, when when
abortion has been on the ballot in recent years, it
hasn't done that well. And so if Donald Trump were
to come out and say I now support abortion or something,
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I would be very offended.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I would I would not support that.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
But if Trump, who is the most pro life president
in my lifetime, who was the first sitting president to
addressed the March for Life, who appointed the judges that
overruled Roe v. Wade, if that guy says, hey, guys,
play it cool until November and then I'll keep appointing
these good judges and we'll keep making progress.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I'm going to give them a little grace there.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know, if if the president comes out and he says, hey,
we're going to appeal to labor a little bit. We're
going to I don't know, we're going to take away
taxes on tips or something, I think, Okay, that's fine,
we've We've spent many multiples, probably orders of magnitude more
money than that would cost the federal government just sending
it to Ukraine over the past two years. So okay,
if you're going to make an outreach to labor, I
think that's actually probably politically a pretty good idea. And
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is it ideologically pure in Milton friedmanism of you know,
the GOP platform of nineteen eighty seven. No, maybe not.
But folks, it's twenty twenty four, and the convention exists
to get elected. That's what it is for it. It's
not the other way around. The candidates don't exist to
have a fun party where everyone's ideologically perfect. It exists
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to bring coalitions together of disparate people who disagree on
a lot to win.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
But conventions are also not not very fun, don't I
don't enjoy being at conventions very much, Michael. There are
a lot of people here and they want to talk
to me. And I'm not talking about people who listen
to the show. That's fine, but these dirty politicians. Every
time you run into one of these senators, he wants
to talk. Do you like it here?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Glad handing, simpering sociopaths, I actually like them, Yes, I
do get I sort of get a kick out of them.
Although Jesse, you're clearly despite what you're saying, you know,
you sound like Horace, who the the ancient poet who
said od profanum vulgus et arceo, I hate the common people,
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and I exclude them.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
You're a man of the people, because look at you,
you're surrounded by the hoipolo. You don't have any you
haven't built any big beautiful walls in your booth like
we have at the Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Just to let you know, you didn't have to translate that.
I speak Mexican pretty fluently, and I have I've been
speaking that for quite some time, as everyone who listens
to the show knows. Okay, Michael, I do. I have
to ask how hopeful you in this idea of unity,
not on the right, not talking about at the convention
where we're all patting each other on the back ahaha,
Joe Biden sucks, but nationally, especially in the wake of
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an assassination attempt. Oh, unity, You're not united, but just
that doesn't seem realistic to me, and that the values
of each side hasn't changed at all. People were upset
by a bad video, but the values didn't change.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
No, I think Biden is going to keep calling Trump
hitler and saying that he poses an existential threat to
the Republic, and in so doing, he's going to justify
assassinating him as he's been doing for years, and that's unfortunate.
You're going to see that from entertainment. You're going to
see that from a lot of Democrat politicians. However, I
think that the country was uniting before that disastrous debate
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for Biden. It was uniting in the sense that Biden's
poll numbers were not getting any better. Trump was looking
like he win the general already before that debate. That's
why Biden called for the debate. Otherwise he would have avoided.
So he calls for the debate. He sets conditions that
he thought would be totally unacceptable to Trump. Trump wisely
just accepted them, didn't even negotiate, destroyed him at the debate.
The situation got worse. Then there was the mutiny and
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the Democrat Party, where people up to and including George
Clooney ostensibly wrote an outbed for The New York Times.
Maybe it was Barack Obama who wrote the off ed,
some have suggested, but in any case, there was a mutiny.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
They tried to overthrow them. That didn't work.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That failed.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Now in the wake of the.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Attempted assassination, that's not going to work anymore. And so
I just think that the uniting was already happening around
the failures of Biden.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, nothing unites us like that old culture. All right, Michael,
Before I let you go, I can't let you go
without hawking your cigars again. Please, where do people get these?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
People can go if you are twenty one years or older.
Some exclusions apply. You can go to Mayflower Cigars dot Com.
We're trying to get into the retail shops, but you know,
the government makes it very true. For now Mayflower Cigars
dot Com. We sell out pretty frequently, but as of now,
I think we still have a fair bit of stock.
And if you're me, you're to the Mayflower Dusk. It's
the fuller bodied smoke and the Toro size delicious.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I don't know what any of those words mean, but
that's Mexan. It's Mexican. I thought, so that sounds fantastic.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Michael, Thank you, my brother, Michael Knowles.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Everybody cigar salesman. Now is there anything it can't even
plays instruments to gosh, I hate him, you know who?
I don't hate his Tunnel to Towers, you know, taking
care of widows and orphans, were commanded to do that.
Commanded to do that. That's not they didn't say, hey, well,
I mean do it if you feel like it. We're
commanded to do that. And there are a lot of
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different ways you can care for widows and orphans. Tunnel
to Towers comes alongside these gold star families. He's following
first responder families and they're building them homes, paying off
their homes. They're I mean, they're doing the Lord's work.
I don't have another way to put it. Eleven bucks
a month is what they asked for from you. For me,
eleven bucks a month. Give it automatically. You never know
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what's gone. Go to T the number two T dot org.
Eleven bucks a month, T two T dot org. We'll
be back. You're listening to the ourcle love this one.
It's a scream baby, The Jesse Kelly Show, Jesse Kelly Show.
And I am pleased to welcome right here on the
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set the President the Big Cheese at heritage and the
man responsible for that bastardly Project twenty twenty five, Kevin Roberts. Okay, Kevin,
I just have to I have to ask how big
does the smile get every time you hear one of
the dirty comedies complaining about Project twenty twenty five giving
you all the good publicity in the world.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I've battled the radical left my entire career.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
I've been the only conservative on faculties, as you know, Jesse.
So it's a lot of fun, and I'll tell you this,
I think you'll appreciate it. The left has spent far
more millions of dollars mischaracterizing Project twenty twenty five than
it's cost us to actually produce it, and so I
I think it's a great return on investment. You're not
catching flak unless you're over the target, and so we're
going to keep talking about it.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I was all here, it is, I was looking forward
as you were talking. I get emails like this all
the time, Jesse. I've seen several times news articles saying
twenty twenty five Project twenty twenty five is a disaster.
Can you tell us what it is? And why are
the Dems so against it? And This is from a Wendy,
and I figure I might as well just toss this
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one to the man responsible for what is this scary
Project twenty.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Te Well, thanks Wendy for the question.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
What it is is a corrective to fifty plus years
of the radical left taking over the federal government. The
whole objective of Project twenty twenty five is to dismantle
the administrative state, which I happen to think, at least domestically,
is the greatest existential threat to freedom and sovereignty for
everyday Americans. You talk about this on your show every day,
but when you get into the details of it, and
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this is what I always want to give people some
information that they can use with conversations with friend, my
uncle in fact, who is a great listener of your show,
very dedicated to ask me, Kevin, give me some information.
Just go to Project twenty twenty five dot org. Don't
try to read the whole thing. It's nine hundred and
twenty pages, but find that issue, that policy area that
you're interested in. For me, it would be education, and
just go read the little bit on education, and once
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you're done reading it, ask yourself, is anything the Left
have said has said about this project. Correct, No, they
have mischaracterized ninety eight percent of what they said. The
only thing that they get right is that we do
want to eliminate the Department of Education.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Ah. Yes, that's maybe my favorite part of the whole thing. Okay,
So tell me about this database. This database where people
can go put in their resume. What's this all about.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Well, that's actually the most important part of the project
this time around. Real quick history, and then I'll answer
your question directly. Heritage has been doing this since nineteen eighty,
prepping President Reagan with policies in personnel. This time we
did something two things differently. The first thing we did
is we took the Heritage logo off the project because
we wanted it to represent the entire conservative movement. Got
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one hundred and ten organizations that are part of this,
representing basically forty million voters. But on the personnel database,
to your question, what we have done is recruit all
around the country competent professionals who want to come tithe
to this republic. Two years, four years more than that,
we were hoping we would get ten thousand people to
be in that database. And then the president's transition team
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gets to decide who they hire, right, I mean, they're.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
The decision makers. We have fifteen thousand, three.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Thousand of whom just in the last ten days have
applied because of all the left's mischaracterization about.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
It, but it's telling as America is hungry for change.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You obviously come from education and something you talk about,
it's something you're hot on you And I've talked about
it on the air many times before. I say it's
the most damaging thing the Commiess ever took over in
this country, that you can be a normal American, not
even some hardcore far lefter, and you can go K
through twelve and then go to college and you can
come out a complete nutball because of what they've done
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in the education system. And parents are getting it more
now than they ever have, and I find that encouraging
at least.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Yeah, I cannot count, I mean literally cannot count the
hundreds of times in the last decade people have told me,
friends of Heritage, friends of other nonprofits, I've led that
their parents are their kids or their grandkids.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
When they went to college.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Within a year, sometimes within a semester, had gone from
being common sense kind of conservative kids to being totally radicalized.
What Project twenty twenty five, along with all of these
other efforts at the grassroots, are focused on, is taking
back those institutions of education. I happen to think that
those of us who are homeschooling, those of us who
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have our kids in charter schools and private schools, have
created an environment in which the government funded schools have
to respond. But unless there is institutional policy change at
the federal level, whether it is a total elimination of
the Department of Education or a massive change in how
we fund universities, we're not going to stop this problem
of kids and grandkids coming home for Thanksgiving dinner and
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they are sounding a lot differently because professors have indoctrinated.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Can you talk about the funding of universities? This is
one of those things because it gets confusing and it's
not sexy on the campaign trail. It doesn't get a
lot of play in political elections. But these universities that
are poisoning these young minds are oftentimes funded with at
least in part our own money.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Yeah, and that's the dirty little secret, although it's all
about out there in the open. Actually, in Project twenty
twenty five, if you want to read about it. So
at the very least, and praise God, President Trump has
been very explicit about this in the last weeks. I
would expect that the next Trump administration will have a
Secretary of Education, whoever that may be, who's going to
be focused on giving more control to the states over
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the funding of these universities. The reason this is important,
and I know I've gone to like one level of
detail in the policy. The detail is important. You have
governors like Ron DeSantis in Florida who've taken on those
universities and saying, you're no longer going to use our
money to indoctrinate our kids. If you're going to get
our money, whether it's state money or federal money, you
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have to reflect at the very least that this is
a neutral platform. We have used a trillion dollars since
nineteen seventy nine. That's so much we've spent on the
US Department of Education to indoctrinate two generations in America.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Can you explain why that kind of thing happens so
often in Florida. Florida's not the only red state we
have in the Union, and by the numbers, it's not
even actually the reddest state we have in the Union.
And I know Ronda Santis gets a lot of credit
for that, but how is this not more of a thing?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Look, I live in Texas. I love living in Texas.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Don't get me wrong. I love the food, I like
the people. Our GOP sucks. We don't get tangible things
like this done as much as freaking Florida does. Why
is this not a thing in every red state?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I'll use the Texas example.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I'm an alumnus of the University of Texas, one of
the most politically liberal universities in the country. I somehow
went in as a conservative and left as a conservative.
But it is emblement of the problem, not just in Texas,
but in other red states. What happens is a large
percentage of legislators, members of the legislature are are graduates
of these schools, and they try to protect the institution
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and they ignore. Actually, I will give some of them
the benefit of the doubt, they ignore how bad the
politics have become. But I'll tell you one silver lining
to these pro Hamas protests, Jesse. Even at my alma mater,
the University of Texas, it has caused the president and
the boards of those schools and the governor to say
enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Oh, praise God for that. Kevin Roberts. Where can people
get more info on this Project twenty twenty five again,
because I get emails every day about it? What is
this scary thing? And where do they go?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Project twenty twenty five dot org. You see the policies there.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
You can also sign up to be part of the
next administration if the president so choose.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Appreciate you very much, thanks brother, thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
You bet all right, we still have an hour and
we hit well when there was two hours, I just lied.
It's time to talk about why don't why don't these
people resign? Head a secret service comes out, she's not
gonna They're not going to resign. This general doesn't resign,
This person doesn't resign. Why is that a problem? Now?
Why don't they don't they have the honor? Why don't
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anybody fire them? And actually it's going to tie right
back into something that Kevin was just talking about when
it comes to institutions and what institutions turn into over
a long enough period of time. Before we talk about that,
I want to talk to you about something a bit
more personal. I guess I should say. You know, you
remember when we as a show we went back to
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Israel and did a big trip through the Holy Land
where I mean baptized. I've got to baptize my son
where we where they think, you know, Jesus was baptized.
And we're going through all these different places and and
it's wild to me that all the friends we made
over there now they're they're going rockets shot at them
every fricking day. That's that's how people have to live
their lives. Now. At the IFCJ there they have a pledge. Oh,
(37:54):
this is a pledge saying we're with you, We're praying
for you. You're not You're not left without a care
in the world. We are here with you, supporting you.
Would you sign it for me, go to support IFCJ
dot org. It's just signing a pledge. That's that's all
they're asking for support IFCJ dot org. All right, all
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right now, the head of the Secret Service, she's taking
responsibility for Trump almost getting his head blown off, but
not really taking responsibility. Even came out today and mentioned
the roof was too sloped. I have a lot to
say about this. Next
This is a Jesse Kelly show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
On a Tuesday, and there is a turn to tackle
on a Tuesday. First, who's speaking at the convention?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Are you upset about it?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They have teamsters here, They have a scantily clad young
lady here who has an OnlyFans profiled.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Do these things make you angry? We're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
In fact, in the opening tonight, Secret Service, the head
of the Secret Service, Kim Cheatle, won't resign. We're gonna
have a bigger conversation about that. What it means, what
it reveals about our government. Poll numbers that are going
to make your jaw drop and hair fallout, just like
mine when we talk about the post shooting polls. All that,
(01:04):
so much more coming up tonight on the world famous
Jesse Kelly's show. That and of course you know we're
gonna throw in some Biden stuff. But I didn't plan
them on it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's because when I in twenty twenty, when I like,
when broadcasting your vice president.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
All that. Oh, I should also note Michael Knowle's coming
up about a half hour from now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Kevin Roberts with Heritage coming up later.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Who knows what else will throw in tonight on the
world famous Jesse Kelly Show. I want to begin here, though,
because my email inbox is full today. It's full of
happy thoughts and negative thoughts about what's happening at the convention.
I realize you're not at the convention. I get that,
but you're probably watching it. Everyone's watching it. My wife's
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watching it. Everyone's watching it. They want to watch the
Trump speeches. They want to watch this speech, that speech.
This is especially in the wake of that Assassin Nation attempt.
This is our super Bowl. Is such an overused cliche,
but that's kind of what it is. If you're a
political person and you come here, that's what it feels like.
Freaking security anywhere. The cops had to murk some homeless
dude today who got in a bum knife.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Fight and everything. It was wild.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So that's what it's like. It's crazy. You should know
that I was fine. I was inside eating at the time.
I'm never going to find that shocking, but I was
eating anyway. See yesterday, the head of the Teamsters Teamsters
union gets up gives a.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Speech at the convention.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It wasn't a raw raw I'm voting Republican now. Speech.
But you know, Teamster's Union, very very powerful union, union
that goes Democrat almost every single time, and a lot
of people were very happy about it. A lot of
people were very upset about it. Jesse, the Teamster's president, seriously,
I'm very concerned about this. He was praising Josh Holly
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for changing his view on right to work, the idea
that employees should be forced to pay dues to an organization.
They're opposed to his fascism at his finest. Who is
this guy speaking at the RNC. Just when I think
the GOP has all the momentum, they shoot themselves in
the face. Talk me out the ledge. I've got all
kinds of things like that, and it's not unique. You
should know. To the Teamsters Junior, there's a young lady,
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and I admit, if I try to talk about this
with any amount of depth, with any degree of depth,
you're just going to laugh me off the radio, because,
as you know, I'm forty two going on ninety two.
Amber Rose. Who's Amber Rose? I think she was married
to Kanye or dated Kanye something along those lines. She
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dates rappers, She.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Has a.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Porn an adult adult themed page that is still active
to this day. So certainly not your normal speaker at
a Republican convention. She gets up and speaks as well,
and a lot of people are vain, very upset about it.
Some are thrilled about it. Hey, big tent. Some are
very upset about it. Hey, is this what we stand
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for now? Is this what we are? Cultural values? Okay,
so I'm gonna say something. I'm just gonna lay all
this out. Maybe you'll love it, maybe you'll hate it.
But here's the reality of life. Political parties, different political parties,
as you know, that's not an American phenomenon. That's the
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entire history of the world. When you have nations of
any size, I mean were You can read old arguments.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
If you're reading about.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Sitting buls A Sitting bul is having arguments with his
people about there's a faction who wants to go this
route and a faction who wants to go that route.
Political parties are the way societies go. We feel the
society should go more this way, but we over here
feel society should go more this way. And political parties
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changing with the times is also the entire history of
the world, including the entire history of the United States
of America.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Republican Party Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
They've both gone through gigantic changes right left, middle otherwise
throughout the history of this country. This is what happens
when the people of a nation change. One of my
larger points I want to make I'm gonna make right
now on this. The parties change with the people. The
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parties change with the people. Here's a big one. Here's
a big one. We're gonna come back, I believe me.
I'm gonna. I'm gonna we're gonna talk about this in
more depth. But here's here's a big example of this.
The Republican Party, for the majority of my life, For
the majority of my life, with the exception of the
libertarian wing of that party, well of which you may
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be I probably am more that wing. But with the
exception of that wing, the Republican Party has been a
global war on terror loving party. We just we have been.
We have been. Yes, let's get to Afghanistan. Yes, let's
get to Iraq, kill them all, let God sort them out,
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go everywhere. For most of my life, that kind of
neo conservative, that's how you describe that way of thinking.
That has been the history of the Republican Party for
my lifetime, but prior to my lifetime, that would have
been the antithesis of everything the Republican Party had traditionally
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stood for up until that time. The GOP for most
of its history before that was hands off, gloves off,
mind our own business, a much more traditionally American way
of thinking. If you're my age, if you're forty two,
that may come as a shock to you because that's
that's the only GOP you've ever known. But if you're
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seventy eighty, you saw a different GOP when you were younger. Okay,
so the party's changed. The Democrat Party, we're gonna come
back to us. I'm gonna get there. The Democrat Party,
they're changing too rapidly for the worse. But they're changing too.
As they get more and more radical, the radicals within
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their party are getting more and more representation, more representation
than they used to have. If you went back to
you don't even have to go to ancient history. If
you went back to the year two thousand and you
went combing through every Democrat congressman and senator's staffers. Forget
about the senator, the senators or congressmen themselves, you just
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went through their staffers. Would you find an admitted Maoist
in there somewhere? Probably you'd find probably an admitted Maoist
in there, somebody who who loved Karl Marx or something
that you would have found one or two in the
year two thousand if you went down that list of staffers.
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If you went down that list of staffers today, you
went through every Democrat staff and the Senate in the
House of Representatives, you went down that list today, you
would find Maoist after Maoist after Maoist admitted. We're not
talking about just somebody I'm accusing of being at admitted. Yeah,
I love mao Go Lennin. You would find a long,
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long list of them. Why. Well, let's discuss the why,
because this is going to come back to the Republican Party.
And this is going to come back to the changes
you're seeing now in the Republican Party. Whether you love
those changes or hate those changes. Why did the Democrat
Party change in that way? Why have they gone harder left?
(08:53):
You can go look at video tape of Barack Obama
standing against gay marriage right like right when he got elected. Today,
they're all about kids gutting their penises off. How did
that change so fast? We're gonna talk about how, and
then we're gonna address the GOP changes. Okay, before we
do that, let's talk about some changes that we need
to make, changes in how we think. Because we all
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want to put money away from retirement. I do you do?
Everyone does. I don't want to work forever. I want
to be able to retire it one day. But where
do you put it? With all this volatility, all the
bubble's gonna pop up the dollar every day, there's a
new doomsday prediction. What do you put it? Well, here's
what I know. I know that the smartest financial people
in the world are buying up herd assets. Entire nation
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states are doing it.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Huge corporations are doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You know what. We talk about Blackrock all the time.
You know what, BlackRock's buying real estate as much as
they can get their hands on. You think maybe that
would be a good idea done for you real estate.
We'll teach you, the normal person how to do this,
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you're just now joining us. We're talking about Okay, so
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the Teamster's president spoke at the convention. A lot of
people are mad about it. Young lady who has an
adult website still spoke at the convention. Amber Rose upset
about it. I haven't really addressed that part specifically yet.
I'm getting there. But we're addressing the realignment of the
parties right now. So Democrats they went hard left and
really really fast, and how did that happen? And how
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is going to be important here before we get to
the Republican Party. How did they turn into maoists in
the last thirty years. Well, it's all a matter of
how they participate in primaries. I know I come back
to this again and again and again, but that's really
the truth. The truth is the hard corese the communist
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wing of the Democrat Party. They care about destroying the country.
They care about it a lot. They'll do whatever they
have to do to do that. And when primary day comes,
they're not watching the game. They're not too busy. They're
there and they have succeeded in yanking their party to
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the left. They go out, they participate in primaries, and
because they participate, participate in primaries, they have remade the
party in their image. The image of the party is
being made into the image of its most committed followers.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Get that.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's how it works. The most committed Democrats are the
ones who are remaking the Democrat Party, which brings us
to us. Are you mad that the teamsters spoke, Mad
that this young lady amber Rose spoke.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Okay, I understand that. I'm not telling you not to
be I'm really not.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
First, let's address this electorally electorally, and we're gonna get
to the party platform part of this electorally. It's a
very sharp move because even if you don't get the
teamsters for you. You've denied them to Joe Biden that
he was banking on that endorsement. And we're talking about
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rust belt union heavy swing states Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. Joe
Biden might need to clean sweep those states to beat
Donald Trump. If you can do things to deny him
his voting block, that's smart. That's one as far as
the amber Rose they get. So let's just talk about
the Republican Party. Our party is changing. Our party. I'm
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an anti communist, I'm not even a Republican. Republican Party
is changing. It is changing. It is not going to
look like it did five years ago. It is not
going to look like it did ten years ago. The
Republican Party is changing, and it is changing in ways
you may love, and there's a chance it's changing in
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ways you may find completely unacceptable. After the two parties
are done playing their little political musical chairs, which they're
playing now, you have to prepare yourself for the possibility
that you don't have a major political party that really
represents you or your values. That is a real chance,
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and that doesn't mean you need to change. And I'm
not saying the parties need to change. I'm talking about
the simple, brutal reality of life.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Remember, it's not your mommy's show, it sha daddy's show.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Here's the truth.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
If you are a.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Cultural or cultural conservative, you're one of the people really
hardcore on the social value stuff. Your marriage is between
a man and a woman, a hugely pro life when
it comes to that, you know, adult lady, adult adult
website lad. I'm not even sure how I'm supposed to
address it here. When it comes to things like that,
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If that is the kind of thing you are absolutely
out on, no, on, No, you don't want your kids
see to it, you don't want it to be part
of the party. If that's a huge for you, then
you very likely maybe politically homeless going forward. It's not
an accident. They remade the Republican Party platform. They promptly
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stripped out anything that had to do with abortion at all.
They stripped out anything that had to do with all
the LGBTQ stuff at all.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
These things were just done recently. They have taken the
social conservative, cultural conservative, however you want to put it,
and they have stripped that stuff out of the party platform.
Is that a permanent stripping? I don't know, but it
looks like that is.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
At least for the time being, the plan for the
National GOP. I didn't say it was your plan. I
didn't say it should be. But if that is where
you fall, if those.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Are big, big deals for.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You, you might not like where we are going from here.
And I don't have I don't really have something I
can tell you now. If that's you speaking specifically to you,
if that hurts you, if you're sitting there saying, Jesse,
I've been a pro lifer for a long time, I
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can't support a party like this, Jesse. I'm big on
the nuclear family, marriage between a man and a woman.
If the Republican Party is going to go against that,
I can't support it. Okay, I'm not. I'm not here
to try to turn you into Tom or tear a Republican.
I'm not here to do that. I'm here to tell
you the truth. As far as the Republican Party goes,
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they're not going that direction. They're just not. It's going
to be more of a nationalist, populist Republican Party going
forward from here. And for traditional conservatives, if you're one
of these people who calls yourself a traditional conservative. There
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are going to be parts of that you will like,
and they are going to be parts of that you
will hate.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You if you're a traditional hardcore.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Right winger, you're probably going to like the national populist
views on things like uh, immigration more than you did
the old GOP. The old GOP was always super squishy
and soft and weak and pathetic when it came to that.
A nationalist populist GOP is going to be better when
it comes to those things. The poort um, build the wall,
(17:26):
things like that. So those things, those things may appeal
to you. But if you're a debt conscious person, you
know that's a big thing for me. You care a
lot about the debt loop. There's a chance you're going
to be homeless. I don't know whether any of that
or all that made you feel better or made you
(17:48):
feel worse. But times are a change in not just
for the country, for both political parties and you me,
we're just gonna have to figure it out going forward.
We land and all that. Maybe we'll find a soft
spot to land, maybe we will not. All right, all right,
I think we have Michael Knowles coming on next and
(18:11):
so that's always a good time to talk to Michael
and then we'll talk until more about this stuff. I
want to get to the secret service angle. Before we
do that, I want to get to your dog. You see,
I don't want your dog to die. My buddy yesterday
just had to put his dog down and I'm in Wisconsin,
so I didn't get a chance to be with him,
which sucks because that was. If there was ever a
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time your buddy needs to pat on the back and
a beer, it was a time. But it's just brought
it all back to me how much it hurts when
you're freaking dog dies. Man, It just it guts you.
Rough Greens the all natural nutritional supplement for your dog.
The reason I give rough Greens to Fred is because
I know that that day will come. There's nothing that
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can stop that Fred's gonna die. I want that day
to be as far away as humanly possible. Honestly, thinking
about the look on my wife's face, my kid's face,
I want to hold off on that. Don't you put
rough Greens on your dog's food. Roughgreens dot com, slash Jesse,
or you can call him eight three three three three,
(19:16):
my dog. We'll be back fighting for your freedom every day.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show, and I am pleased
to welcome. I was about to say here in the studio,
but it's more like on the studio we're performing in
front of other people, like monkeys in a zoo. Michael Knowles,
of course, of the Daily Wire. Only now apparently he
is a tobacco smuggler.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I didn't get all the details before him.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I want that to go on my tombstone. Here lies
Michael Knowles, cigar salesman, like.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
A cigar salesman. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Now I have to ask before we get into politics.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What I know you like to smoke cigars. I knew
that's your thing.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But wait, what, Jesse.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
The body is a temple and the temple needs incense. Okay,
and you can get your incense at Mayflower Cigars dot Com.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I kid you not, that's so shameless high.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Since I was a kid, you know, I started smoking
cigars kind of late for an Italian from New York.
I started at about fifteen, though I would never encourage
anyone twenty nine years old, whatever the government tells you,
but I started kind of early. I wrote my college
admissions essay about how much I love cigars. I look
a bit swarthy, but some of my family was on
the Mayflower that's where we get the company name from.
And DW decided to back me in it because it
(20:31):
didn't cost them any money and they.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Knew we'd sell a zillion cigars.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And I am really honored to say I want to
thank your listeners, maybe many of whom have bought the cigars.
It became, I think the biggest boutique's brand cigar launch
in the history of tobacco.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'll take you which mafia family are you associated? We
are the Columbos. Actually, yeah, that's good. We talked about
them some last night. That's good. All right, all right, Michael,
I open up the show. I got a bunch of emails.
I'm sure you've got a bunch of emails about the
different speakers at the convention, the more non traditional speakers
at the convention. Yeah, the teams there's on. You know,
(21:10):
Amber Rose is there. And what I tried to explain
to people is, whether you like it or not, the
Democrat Party is being remade. Times change parties change. The
Republican Party is also being remade. And if you're a
more socially conservative, socially right winger like I definitely am.
You may end up finding yourself homeless as we move
(21:31):
forward here. That's just the reality of life. Love it
or hey, it's reality where we're going.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I totally agree with you in principle. I am a
little more hopeful.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Though.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
You look at someone like JD. Vance who gets picked
as the VP. He is a pretty socially conservative candidate,
you know. He In many ways, I think he and
Trump represent not a radical departure from Republican orthodoxy. It's
a change from the last thirty years, but in many
ways it's a restoration of the og Republican orthodoxy. You know,
(22:02):
when the party was founded and Abraham Lincoln is our
first president. The GOP was pro tariff, the GOP has
been in favor of immigration restriction. The GOP has been
skeptical of foreign wars for a lot of its existence.
So I think you're seeing some of that comeback now.
Some of the social conservatives, and again it's hard to
be more socially conservative than I am. But they said,
(22:22):
I hate it that this woman amber Rose spoke. I
had never heard of amber Rose in my life. Some
people looked at Some people looked at me skeptically.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
I said, no, really, I have never heard of her.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
But but look, had she come out and endorsed abortion
or something, Wo've been quite offended by that. Had she
come out and promoted pornography or something, I would have
been very offended. What did she say? She said, Hey,
I don't look like a usual GOP voter. I was
lied to by the media. I was told he's a racist,
bad guy, and he's not.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
He's a good guy.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And people who look like me, who probably have voted
for Democrats in the past, they should vote for Trump.
And that's all she said. And I thought, what am
I supposed to complain about there?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, look, that's what I've been trying to tell, trying
to talk people off the ledge with this might be
where we're going. And because we are in a general election,
I didn't get to this point of it. But now
that we're in a general election, there's going to be
coalition building that makes the hardcores like us uncomfortable. There
(23:18):
is that you're going to have a Teamster guy. If
the head of the Teamsters wants to come speak, I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know what I'm come to speak. It's just the
way it is.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You have to make some friends you don't necessarily want
to make in a general election.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And you know, for Donald Trump to come out and say,
we're not going to talk that much about abortion, okay,
if you're I'm very pro life, and so you know,
I'd like talking about abortion all day. Well, when when
abortion has been on the ballot in recent years, it
hasn't done that well. And so if Donald Trump were
to come out and say I now support abortion or something,
(23:52):
I would be very offended.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I would I would not support that.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
But if Trump, who is the most pro life president
in my lifetime, who was the first sitting president to
addressed the March for Life, who appointed the judges that
overruled Roe v. Wade, if that guy says, hey, guys,
play it cool until November and then I'll keep appointing
these good judges and we'll keep making progress.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I'm going to give them a little grace there.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know, if if the president comes out and he says, hey,
we're going to appeal to labor a little bit. We're
going to I don't know, we're going to take away
taxes on tips or something, I think, Okay, that's fine,
we've We've spent many multiples, probably orders of magnitude more
money than that would cost the federal government just sending
it to Ukraine over the past two years. So okay,
if you're going to make an outreach to labor, I
think that's actually probably politically a pretty good idea. And
(24:35):
is it ideologically pure in Milton friedmanism of you know,
the GOP platform of nineteen eighty seven. No, maybe not.
But folks, it's twenty twenty four, and the convention exists
to get elected. That's what it is for it. It's
not the other way around. The candidates don't exist to
have a fun party where everyone's ideologically perfect. It exists
(24:57):
to bring coalitions together of disparate people who disagree on
a lot to win.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
But conventions are also not not very fun, don't I
don't enjoy being at conventions very much, Michael. There are
a lot of people here and they want to talk
to me. And I'm not talking about people who listen
to the show. That's fine, but these dirty politicians. Every
time you run into one of these senators, he wants
to talk. Do you like it here?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Glad handing, simpering sociopaths, I actually like them, Yes, I
do get I sort of get a kick out of them.
Although Jesse, you're clearly despite what you're saying, you know,
you sound like Horace, who the the ancient poet who
said od profanum vulgus et arceo, I hate the common people,
(25:44):
and I exclude them.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
You're a man of the people, because look at you,
you're surrounded by the hoipolo. You don't have any you
haven't built any big beautiful walls in your booth like
we have at the Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Just to let you know, you didn't have to translate that.
I speak Mexican pretty fluently, and I have I've been
speaking that for quite some time, as everyone who listens
to the show knows. Okay, Michael, I do. I have
to ask how hopeful you in this idea of unity,
not on the right, not talking about at the convention
where we're all patting each other on the back ahaha,
Joe Biden sucks, but nationally, especially in the wake of
(26:18):
an assassination attempt. Oh, unity, You're not united, but just
that doesn't seem realistic to me, and that the values
of each side hasn't changed at all. People were upset
by a bad video, but the values didn't change.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
No, I think Biden is going to keep calling Trump
hitler and saying that he poses an existential threat to
the Republic, and in so doing, he's going to justify
assassinating him as he's been doing for years, and that's unfortunate.
You're going to see that from entertainment. You're going to
see that from a lot of Democrat politicians. However, I
think that the country was uniting before that disastrous debate
(26:53):
for Biden. It was uniting in the sense that Biden's
poll numbers were not getting any better. Trump was looking
like he win the general already before that debate. That's
why Biden called for the debate. Otherwise he would have avoided.
So he calls for the debate. He sets conditions that
he thought would be totally unacceptable to Trump. Trump wisely
just accepted them, didn't even negotiate, destroyed him at the debate.
The situation got worse. Then there was the mutiny and
(27:15):
the Democrat Party, where people up to and including George
Clooney ostensibly wrote an outbed for The New York Times.
Maybe it was Barack Obama who wrote the off ed,
some have suggested, but in any case, there was a mutiny.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
They tried to overthrow them. That didn't work.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That failed.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Now in the wake of the.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Attempted assassination, that's not going to work anymore. And so
I just think that the uniting was already happening around
the failures of Biden.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, nothing unites us like that old culture. All right, Michael,
Before I let you go, I can't let you go
without hawking your cigars again. Please, where do people get these?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
People can go if you are twenty one years or older.
Some exclusions apply. You can go to Mayflower Cigars dot Com.
We're trying to get into the retail shops, but you know,
the government makes it very true. For now Mayflower Cigars
dot Com. We sell out pretty frequently, but as of now,
I think we still have a fair bit of stock.
And if you're me, you're to the Mayflower Dusk. It's
the fuller bodied smoke and the Toro size delicious.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I don't know what any of those words mean, but
that's Mexan. It's Mexican. I thought, so that sounds fantastic.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Michael, Thank you, my brother, Michael Knowles.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Everybody cigar salesman. Now is there anything it can't even
plays instruments to gosh, I hate him, you know who?
I don't hate his Tunnel to Towers, you know, taking
care of widows and orphans, were commanded to do that.
Commanded to do that. That's not they didn't say, hey, well,
I mean do it if you feel like it. We're
commanded to do that. And there are a lot of
(28:40):
different ways you can care for widows and orphans. Tunnel
to Towers comes alongside these gold star families. He's following
first responder families and they're building them homes, paying off
their homes. They're I mean, they're doing the Lord's work.
I don't have another way to put it. Eleven bucks
a month is what they asked for from you. For me,
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what's gone. Go to T the number two T dot org.
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be back. You're listening to the ourcle love this one.
It's a scream baby, The Jesse Kelly Show, Jesse Kelly Show.
And I am pleased to welcome right here on the
(29:23):
set the President the Big Cheese at heritage and the
man responsible for that bastardly Project twenty twenty five, Kevin Roberts. Okay, Kevin,
I just have to I have to ask how big
does the smile get every time you hear one of
the dirty comedies complaining about Project twenty twenty five giving
you all the good publicity in the world.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I've battled the radical left my entire career.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
I've been the only conservative on faculties, as you know, Jesse.
So it's a lot of fun, and I'll tell you this,
I think you'll appreciate it. The left has spent far
more millions of dollars mischaracterizing Project twenty twenty five than
it's cost us to actually produce it, and so I
I think it's a great return on investment. You're not
catching flak unless you're over the target, and so we're
going to keep talking about it.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I was all here, it is, I was looking forward
as you were talking. I get emails like this all
the time, Jesse. I've seen several times news articles saying
twenty twenty five Project twenty twenty five is a disaster.
Can you tell us what it is? And why are
the Dems so against it? And This is from a Wendy,
and I figure I might as well just toss this
(30:26):
one to the man responsible for what is this scary
Project twenty.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Te Well, thanks Wendy for the question.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
What it is is a corrective to fifty plus years
of the radical left taking over the federal government. The
whole objective of Project twenty twenty five is to dismantle
the administrative state, which I happen to think, at least domestically,
is the greatest existential threat to freedom and sovereignty for
everyday Americans. You talk about this on your show every day,
but when you get into the details of it, and
(30:51):
this is what I always want to give people some
information that they can use with conversations with friend, my
uncle in fact, who is a great listener of your show,
very dedicated to ask me, Kevin, give me some information.
Just go to Project twenty twenty five dot org. Don't
try to read the whole thing. It's nine hundred and
twenty pages, but find that issue, that policy area that
you're interested in. For me, it would be education, and
just go read the little bit on education, and once
(31:13):
you're done reading it, ask yourself, is anything the Left
have said has said about this project. Correct, No, they
have mischaracterized ninety eight percent of what they said. The
only thing that they get right is that we do
want to eliminate the Department of Education.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Ah. Yes, that's maybe my favorite part of the whole thing. Okay,
So tell me about this database. This database where people
can go put in their resume. What's this all about.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Well, that's actually the most important part of the project
this time around. Real quick history, and then I'll answer
your question directly. Heritage has been doing this since nineteen eighty,
prepping President Reagan with policies in personnel. This time we
did something two things differently. The first thing we did
is we took the Heritage logo off the project because
we wanted it to represent the entire conservative movement. Got
(31:58):
one hundred and ten organizations that are part of this,
representing basically forty million voters. But on the personnel database,
to your question, what we have done is recruit all
around the country competent professionals who want to come tithe
to this republic. Two years, four years more than that,
we were hoping we would get ten thousand people to
be in that database. And then the president's transition team
(32:19):
gets to decide who they hire, right, I mean, they're.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
The decision makers. We have fifteen thousand, three.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Thousand of whom just in the last ten days have
applied because of all the left's mischaracterization about.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
It, but it's telling as America is hungry for change.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You obviously come from education and something you talk about,
it's something you're hot on you And I've talked about
it on the air many times before. I say it's
the most damaging thing the Commiess ever took over in
this country, that you can be a normal American, not
even some hardcore far lefter, and you can go K
through twelve and then go to college and you can
come out a complete nutball because of what they've done
(32:56):
in the education system. And parents are getting it more
now than they ever have, and I find that encouraging
at least.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Yeah, I cannot count, I mean literally cannot count the
hundreds of times in the last decade people have told me,
friends of Heritage, friends of other nonprofits, I've led that
their parents are their kids or their grandkids.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
When they went to college.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Within a year, sometimes within a semester, had gone from
being common sense kind of conservative kids to being totally radicalized.
What Project twenty twenty five, along with all of these
other efforts at the grassroots, are focused on, is taking
back those institutions of education. I happen to think that
those of us who are homeschooling, those of us who
(33:37):
have our kids in charter schools and private schools, have
created an environment in which the government funded schools have
to respond. But unless there is institutional policy change at
the federal level, whether it is a total elimination of
the Department of Education or a massive change in how
we fund universities, we're not going to stop this problem
of kids and grandkids coming home for Thanksgiving dinner and
(33:59):
they are sounding a lot differently because professors have indoctrinated.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Can you talk about the funding of universities? This is
one of those things because it gets confusing and it's
not sexy on the campaign trail. It doesn't get a
lot of play in political elections. But these universities that
are poisoning these young minds are oftentimes funded with at
least in part our own money.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Yeah, and that's the dirty little secret, although it's all
about out there in the open. Actually, in Project twenty
twenty five, if you want to read about it. So
at the very least, and praise God, President Trump has
been very explicit about this in the last weeks. I
would expect that the next Trump administration will have a
Secretary of Education, whoever that may be, who's going to
be focused on giving more control to the states over
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the funding of these universities. The reason this is important,
and I know I've gone to like one level of
detail in the policy. The detail is important. You have
governors like Ron DeSantis in Florida who've taken on those
universities and saying, you're no longer going to use our
money to indoctrinate our kids. If you're going to get
our money, whether it's state money or federal money, you
(35:05):
have to reflect at the very least that this is
a neutral platform. We have used a trillion dollars since
nineteen seventy nine. That's so much we've spent on the
US Department of Education to indoctrinate two generations in America.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Can you explain why that kind of thing happens so
often in Florida. Florida's not the only red state we
have in the Union, and by the numbers, it's not
even actually the reddest state we have in the Union.
And I know Ronda Santis gets a lot of credit
for that, but how is this not more of a thing?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Look, I live in Texas. I love living in Texas.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Don't get me wrong. I love the food, I like
the people. Our GOP sucks. We don't get tangible things
like this done as much as freaking Florida does. Why
is this not a thing in every red state?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I'll use the Texas example.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I'm an alumnus of the University of Texas, one of
the most politically liberal universities in the country. I somehow
went in as a conservative and left as a conservative.
But it is emblement of the problem, not just in Texas,
but in other red states. What happens is a large
percentage of legislators, members of the legislature are are graduates
of these schools, and they try to protect the institution
(36:11):
and they ignore. Actually, I will give some of them
the benefit of the doubt, they ignore how bad the
politics have become. But I'll tell you one silver lining
to these pro Hamas protests, Jesse. Even at my alma mater,
the University of Texas, it has caused the president and
the boards of those schools and the governor to say
enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Oh, praise God for that. Kevin Roberts. Where can people
get more info on this Project twenty twenty five again,
because I get emails every day about it? What is
this scary thing? And where do they go?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Project twenty twenty five dot org. You see the policies there.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
You can also sign up to be part of the
next administration if the president so choose.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Appreciate you very much, thanks brother, thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
You bet all right, we still have an hour and
we hit well when there was two hours, I just lied.
It's time to talk about why don't why don't these
people resign? Head a secret service comes out, she's not
gonna They're not going to resign. This general doesn't resign,
This person doesn't resign. Why is that a problem? Now?
Why don't they don't they have the honor? Why don't
(37:08):
anybody fire them? And actually it's going to tie right
back into something that Kevin was just talking about when
it comes to institutions and what institutions turn into over
a long enough period of time. Before we talk about that,
I want to talk to you about something a bit
more personal. I guess I should say. You know, you
remember when we as a show we went back to
(37:29):
Israel and did a big trip through the Holy Land
where I mean baptized. I've got to baptize my son
where we where they think, you know, Jesus was baptized.
And we're going through all these different places and and
it's wild to me that all the friends we made
over there now they're they're going rockets shot at them
every fricking day. That's that's how people have to live
their lives. Now. At the IFCJ there they have a pledge. Oh,
(37:54):
this is a pledge saying we're with you, We're praying
for you. You're not You're not left without a care
in the world. We are here with you, supporting you.
Would you sign it for me, go to support IFCJ
dot org. It's just signing a pledge. That's that's all
they're asking for support IFCJ dot org. All right, all
(38:14):
right now, the head of the Secret Service, she's taking
responsibility for Trump almost getting his head blown off, but
not really taking responsibility. Even came out today and mentioned
the roof was too sloped. I have a lot to
say about this. Next
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