July 16, 2025 • 37 mins
Another day in the Epstein files saga. Was Trump added to the files by our intelligence agencies after he won? Prediction: The Epstein list is going to leak.
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So I have a theory.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's gonna be about the Trump Epstein stuff that can't
I can't seem to escape it. He won't stop talking
about it, You won't stop talking about it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
News stuff is out. So I have a.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Theory and I'm going to go over it, and I'm
telling you right now. It may make you cheer, it
may make you scream send me these stupid emails I'm
never less then again, or something like that. I don't know,
but I'm going to lay it out. My theory is
going to have things we know in it, and I
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will be clear about that. When we know something. My
theory will have sources of mind that have told me things,
and I'll be clear about that too.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I'm not going to give you names.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I can't do that, but I will be clear when
a source told me, I'll be clear when it's we know,
and I'll be clear when I get to the I
think because it is just a theory. But I'm about
to lay it all out. You do not have to
agree with my theory at all. God gave you a
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brain that works probably much better than mine does. Digest it. Listen,
I'll lay it out. You disagree, fine, you agree, fine,
But I think if I'm not correct on this, I
think I'm real, real close to the truth that's coming
here in a minute. But we're not just going to
do that. There's going to be an amnesty push inside
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of the GOP. Get yourself ready for that. We have
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Maria Salazar's back in the news, all that emails, so
much more coming up tonight on the world famous Jesse
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Kelly Show. Now let us begin, and so let me
give the theory away right off the bat.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm going to do that thing.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm sure there's a term for it that smart people
will know, but I don't know what that term is.
I'm going to tell you in a very condensed sentence
or two what my theory is. And then over the
next hour I would guess maybe twenty minutes. I don't
know how long I'm going to lay out the reasons why,
and then I'll sum it up again the end.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Maybe I'll call us.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The sandwich method. Chris, I like that. I like sandwiches. What, Chris,
don't you understand that there's well either way, my theory.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Is Donald Trump. But what pause?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Pose, pause real quick for a second. I need to
do a little clarification. There's probably going to be a
moment or moments during this hour where I refer to
an Epstein list.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
If I do that, that's.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Not what I mean. Remember, as we discussed before, there
is no list. That's an Internet term. People said the
list released the list. Surely there's a list. Surely there's
an Excel spreadsheet with every criminal in their crimes. That's
not that doesn't exist. That's not a thing. What there
are Because of the trials around Epstein, there is a
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gigantic truckload of paperwork, boxes and boxes and boxes of
documentation of various kinds. If I say the word list,
just know that's what I'm talking about files, boxes of them,
lots of them in different places. Remember they were trying
to get them back from New York there and this
play through that they're everywhere. Okay, my theory is this.
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Donald Trump is on the list, He's in the files.
But if you're a Trump hater you love hearing that.
Let me clarify. I do not believe, and I'll lay
out my reasons for this, that Donald Trump did anything
wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. I do not believe that. I
believe the paperwork that would look bad for Donald Trump.
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I believe it's now in those files. I believe this
is my theory. I want to stress this is my
theory that it has been added to those files, probably
in the time between Joe Biden lost and Donald Trump
was sworn. In that theory I just lay it out again.
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May have angered you, maybe it interested you. I don't care.
But when I lay out the audio, the statements, things
we know, things we've heard, it all adds up.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So let's just go with. The emails are full.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Jesse, I figured you'd rather eat a bull of ricotta
than talk about Epstein anymore. However, I'm trying to figure
out why things feel so wrong about it. This guy says,
Jesse I suspect, with regard to Pam Bondi and the
Epstein fil debacle, that Trump's defensive reaction to criticism of
Bondi is due to a patriarchical instinct. He feels he
needs to protect women. This guy says, why won't Trump stop?
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Every time he puts out another statement, he makes it worse,
so on and so forth. Okay, okay, so let's lay
a couple things out here. The deep state, I know,
you know the term, maybe you use the term the swamp.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What is it? What actually is it?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
There are large, incredibly powerful federal agencies who have grown
in size and strength over the years. And over those
same years, Congress, frankly and the President have been happy
to hand over duties and obligations and just let the
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deep state, let the agencies handle it.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We don't want to deal with environmental regulations in Congress.
Let the EPA work that sort of thing out. I
don't want to do actual oversight of our intelligence operations.
I'm sure the CIA will work it out. Let just
give them another twenty billion dollars. Years and years and
years of that has created a fourth branch of our
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government where we're supposed to have three. This branch of
government is not only large and powerful, it has the
fright ability to destroy your life or my life. Let's
be clear about this. If these people set their sights
on you or me, they can destroy you. It's what
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they do. They don't just do it to your enemies,
to America's enemies. They do it primarily to their enemies,
the Deep States enemies. Remember she's still out there putting
out good work. But remember Cheryl Atkison. I've brought her
up before. Cheryl Atkinson was a journalist, I believe with CBS,
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I'm pretty sure about that. During Obama's presidency. You remember
Obama's presidency. Look, the media always slabbers over Democrats. That
was nothing new, but with Barack Obama, they took it
to a whole new level. It wasn't it wasn't that
they liked him. They loved him. They were infatuated with him.
He was everything, and so they were always always, always
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present him in the best possible light. Cheryl Akison at
least was not, not, to my knowledge, some right winger.
She wasn't you, she wasn't me. Just a journalist but
she was one of the rare ones who took that job. Seriously,
Barack Obama was doing horrible abuses of power over and
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over again. Cheryl Atkison was one of the few who
stepped up and said, hey, you want to answer some
questions about this. It didn't take long and Cheryl Akison
began to discover that the government was looking at her
in illegal, unconstitutional ways. And finally, do you remember this
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little bit of testimony from Chero Atkison?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Here it is one little reported facet of my case
is one of the federal agents involved in one of
the operations against me said that they intended to plant
child porn in my husband's computer. This is the FBI.
There's been a in case that's currently in litigation unrelated
in which an FBI agent has testified that they did
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that they have done that. It was not accomplished in
my case. I guess the curtain was drawn on that
facet of the operation prior to them doing it. But
imagine how you ever get out of that. They knew
we had a young daughter at home and has allegedly
conspired to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
The deep state has the power to destroy your life,
and they may have failed to do that to Cheryl
Atkinson's husband. But why do you think they would even
consider employing a method like that, Because they've done it before,
and because it works. Even if they can't get you
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in prison, and oftentimes they can. This fourth branch of
government is large enough and powerful enough to destroy your life.
So you wake up tomorrow morning and the local newspaper
and everybody on Facebook talks about the child pornography you
had on your computer the Feds planted there. That's how
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evil and powerful and purposeful they are. And we have
to understand that before we continue with my theory and
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on a wonderful Wednesday, walking through this Epstein madness out
there my theory on it before we move on and
do other parts of the show, So allow me to
continue to lay it out. I already covered in the
opening about what the deep state will do and can do.
They can plant things on your computer. They can hide files,
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destroy files, add to files. Also, remember there's no list,
there's no client list. That's an idiotic Internet talking point.
That's not how it works. There are troves of documents,
boxes and boxes and boxes of them. Now those are
things we have to get clear. And I want to
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talk about something else that I know. Now, this is
not just from a source. This is from a well
placed source. You're just going to have to take my
word on that one. You know, the FBI with sole
blowers that I keep screaming about, brave FBI whistleblowers want
to be brought back. You know what I was told
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one of the reasons that at least one of them
wasn't brought back. And I don't have his permission, so
I can't. I don't want to use his name. But
you know why he wasn't brought back hasn't been brought
back yet because at some point during his suspension, some
new information was added to his file that made him
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appear to have character issues.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Now that it's time to review the file.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh look, we've got these pages in here. This looks
like a bad guy. We can't bring him back. They
edited the files, added to the files to make somebody
look bad and make him not hirable. I just want
to be crystal clear. That's the kind of thing these
people do. They're doing it now as we speak. I
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also want to be clear. Remember how loudly I screamed
about the delays, the delays of the confirmation of cash
Betel and Pambonni. And do you remember why it wasn't
because I'm friends with either of those people, have some
deep commitment to those people. It's not it at all whatsoever.
Remember why I would scream about that over and over
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and over again. Remember what I said during the time, Well, yeah, okay, Chris,
you have it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Go ahead, play it. It's long, go ahead, play it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Here's what I said. Trump was sworn in on January twentieth,
but there were some specific nominations that kept getting kicked
down the road. And you remember what I screamed about
during that rant, that speed matters. The reason you need
to move fast is so you can wrong foot the enemy.
The reason you don't want to delay is because every
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day you delay, it's a day the enemy's trenches get deeper,
his walls get higher, and I'm looking at an article
here from February sixth. This is from ABC News. Committee
vote on Cash Patel's nomination to be FBI director is
delayed after Democrats object. Why because maybe you're sitting there saying, well,
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they're Democrats, they're going to lock shields, They're going to object. Yes,
Democrats opposed pretty much every one of Trump's nominees almost universally,
with the exception of Rubio. Democrats voted against almost all
of them, but they didn't delay them. But Cash Battel
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head of the FBI, it really took a while. Tell
you what pause on that. We'll come back to it.
Pam Bondi, she was one of the last ones as well,
and in fact Pam Bondi was choice number two. Donald
Trump's first choice to be attorney general was Matt Gates.
Think about the GOP senators and how they reacted to
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other Trump nominees. They tried to raise a stink about
Hegxeth got smacked around for it. But other than that,
they confirmed all of them. RFK confirmed them all. Yet
Matt Gates attorney general. He was a bridge so far
that they couldn't whip the votes for him and dumped
him in a couple of days. Then they went with
Option B Pam Bondi and kept her to the end. Okay,
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now let's go back to the Cash Battel thing. Donald
Trump was sworn in on January twentieth. Sixteen days after that,
the Senate Democrats came out and they announced cash Ooh,
we're delaying him. But again I ask you why they
weren't going to stop him, even when they were asking
the hard questions about this or that or the book
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he wrote. There was never even the tiniest bit of
movement in the Senate GOP indicating the GOP was going
to vote against Cash Battel. Cash Battel becoming FBI director
was never, ever, ever in doubt. He had, as far
as I can hell, universal GOP support in the Senate.
So why delay him? Why is it that the head
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of the FBI you want to wait as long as
humanly possible before he takes over. What do you think
the communists were doing with these delays? I warned you
back in January. I think it was three days after
Trump's nomination. I was on the radio screaming, this is
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as close as I got to screaming screaming, this is
too slow. Why Because I knew exactly what the communists
were doing. The day after election night, Election nights on
a Tuesday, the first Tuesday in November, Wednesday, I promise you,
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the Secret Police Agency was making preparations, preparations. Do you
remember Donald Trump and the misery he went through during
his first presidency, especially the first two years of it.
Did you know that a lot of that stuff happened?
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A lot of the prep work for that happened after
Donald Trump won and before he was sworn in. When
communists are about to lose power, they don't sit around waiting. Instead,
they start adding things.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What do they add?
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Speaker 1 (19:49):
Beachsian. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Wednesday,
walking through this thing step by step, laying out exactly
what my theory is why, And I'll get to Trump's statements.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'll read them.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'll get to a couple different things specifically. But I'm
laying out what sources have told me, things we know
from the past, from documentation, things we've heard from sources.
And allow me to repeat this one which I have
told you before, and this one is specifically about the FBI.
And I can assume because this source told me this
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about the FBI, that the same kind of thing was
taking place, and the other intelligence agencies. This source is
someone who would know. That's all I can say. And
the term he used was trip wires. I believe he
also used the term minds, but we'll stick with trip
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wires because I remember that. I'm asking, hey, what about
this at the FBI? What about that? I asked about
the Epstein files, what about that? I'm trying to get
information so I can bring it to you. And he
told me, Jesse, while they were waiting for Trump to
take over, the deep state, the swamp, whatever word you
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want to put on it, they were putting trip wires
up everywhere, laying mines everywhere, just like I told you
they were. They weren't sitting around waiting, Well, Trump's going
to get in there. Remember these people declared war on
Donald Trump for four years when he was president. Remember
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it was the deep state that really did that. It
was a deep state that got him impeached twice. We
even had the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, CIA directors,
they were all they all declared.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
War on Trump.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And then somebody tried to murder Donald Trump, arrested him,
tried to throw him in prison, but then he wins
an election. What do you do if you're part of
an agency that's been trying to destroy a powerful man.
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You even got him out of power, and then you
wake up one morning and you get the memo that
he's coming back to power. What do you do You
make preparation. Now, let's let me finish, hopefully finish laying
this out, because that was a long build up to this.
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People want to know why Trump used to say this.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Would you declassify the Epstein files?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And now almost every day we're getting this.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
He didn't have a policy, some lunatic around the desk
kind of policy. Whoever operated the autopen CADA policy, which is,
by the way, I think the biggest scandal. That's the
scandal they should be talking about, not Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Why are we talking about EPs Let's talk about the
autopen every day it's this And.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
You're attorney told you this was a hoax?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
What evidence he's got the journey General?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No, I know, it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats.
It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You
had Christopher Ray and these characters and call me before him.
It's a bad group. It started. Actually, look at the
Steele dossier that turned out to be a total hoax,
the fifty one agency intelligence so called intelligence agents.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It was a hoax.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the
Democrats and some stupid.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
We've been wondering why he's using this line. It's been
same line over and over again. He put this on
social media today today radical left of hit pay dirt again,
just like pay attention to this, just like with the fake,
in fully discredited Steele dossier, The line fifty one intelligence agencies,
the laptop from Hell, so on and so forth. He
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then goes on and says they stick together like glue.
This is their new scam. It'll forever be called the
Jeffrey Epstein hosts and my past supporters bought into this.
BP uses a potty word, hook line and sinker. They
haven't gotten it, they never will. Fond by the unitic,
lunatic left. I've had more success than six months and
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these idiots harsh, harsh words for people talking about people
caring about it. Now, why would he bring up the
Steele dossier again, the fifty one intelligence agents, the laptop
from Hell. Let me play this again what he said.
This is what he said. You see why there was
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a minute missing from the jail house team on the scene. Yeah, sir,
I'm good. I just in.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years? You're asking, we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things, and are
people still talking about this guy? This creep?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Can't we change the subject?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Do you see why there is a minute missing from
the jail house?
Speaker 7 (24:58):
As your attorney general, I told you this was a hoax?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
What evidence, Journey General?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
No, I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats.
It's been run by the demo.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Remember when Elon Musk and Donald Trump had the big
poop throwing contest online that made everybody uncomfortable. They had
a big falling out, and Elon Musk, wealthiest man in
the world, said this quote, time to drop the really
big bomb. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That's
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the reason they've not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT.
That's quite a thing to throw out there, isn't it.
My theory is I believe Donald Trump is in the
Epstein files. I do not believe this again, this is
my theory. I do not believe that he did horrible
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things with Jeffrey Epstein. I believe potentially, I guess he
could be a bad guy.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't know him. I believe potentially. I believe there
were edits additions made to the files trip wires, if
you will, before Donald Trump, cash Betel, Pam Bondi could
even step in there. I believe the Department of Justice,
the FBI they know this, of course, because they do
have the files, and I believe they've told him this.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
We all heard this exchange.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I just played a little bit of it with Trump
and Bondy the other day where Bondi was asked a
question and Donald Trump jumps in and we all, myself included,
thought Donald Trump was jumping in to defend her. Listen
to it again, after what I just said, maybe Pam
Bondi's defending him. Can you see why there was a
minute to sing from the jailhouse team on then, Yeah, sir,
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I send you.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey and Epstein? This guy's
been talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas,
we have this, we have all of the and are
people still talking about this guy, this creep that is unbelievable.
Do you want to waste the time? And do you
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feel like answered?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this, where we're having
some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what
happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
But you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
He's lashing out, he's calling everybody who cares about this stupid.
You're falling for a Democrat hoax. I think he knows that, yes,
the Communists, that they made additions to these files, additions
that will make him look bad in criminal I think
he's been told, mister president, we don't want all this
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stuff exposed because you or someone close to you maybe
will look bad. And I think that's why he's taken
the very bizarre stance of you shouldn't talk about this anymore.
Shut up, you idiot, Let's talk about something else. Doesn't
land well. I see in my emails not landing well
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with you. And I think Donald Trump's a lot of things.
He's most definitely not a dummy. I think he's aware
that's the kind of thing that's not going to land. Well,
so if you're saying something repeatedly, he's saying the same
thing over and over and over again. Move on, shut up,
move on, idiot, stop working. This is a hoax. It's
a hoax. I think he's prepping the ground. And let
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me make a prediction, one that I pray to God
doesn't come true, because I hope my entire theory is wrong.
I think the information is going to leak. That's what
I think. And I think he knows this information is
going to leak, and that's why he has spent the
last week or two telling you this is made up,
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this is incredible. He keeps using that term credible. This
is made up.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It's a hoax. It was James Comy, it was open.
It was a hoax. It's a hoax.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
It's a hoax. I don't think Donald Trump did anything
wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. I do believe he's in the files. Now,
I'll put a bow on this point that may drive
it home for you. Next Jesse Kelly returns. Next it
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is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Wednesday. I
know it's been a long heavy first hour. Please keep
in mind if I have said anything that offends you,
I don't care, but you are welcome to emailing your love,
your hate, your death threats are I'm never listening again
to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Let me make
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my final point, because maybe I threw you off with
this little bit of that theory. I would imagine you're
mostly with me on some of it. Maybe you disagree,
and again that's fine to disagree, it really is. I
hope you do sometimes. But maybe the part I say,
I don't think Donald Trump was in those files, but
I believe he now is, and I think they added
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him in. Maybe that part of it, maybe that part
grades on you a little because you think, okay, is
he just defending Trump because it would be unpopular. Again,
I'm not defending or criticizing. I'm explaining I didn't put
that in there because I'm defending Donald Trump. It's not.
Do you know what has me convinced that Donald Trump
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has been freshly added.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
To the Epstein files?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
The left? And here's why. The greatest point that was
made about the Epstein files during Biden's presidency, when people
were saying Trump must be on it. Trump must be
on it. The greatest point was if Trump was on it,
they would leak it. These are people who will lie, cheat, steal,
do whatever they have to to destroy their enemies, most
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definitely destroy Donald Trump. If they had something damaging on Trump,
Epstein damaging on Trump, they would have leaked it. But
now now that it's in there, the same people who
were actually on television saying we should keep this quiet,
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we have to protect the visdom. Now the same people
who said that it really wanted it released. Remember how
long democrats have said keep it quiet, keep it quiet.
There are victims, what about the victims, Keep it quiet,
keep it quiet.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And now those.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Same Democrats, politicians, media people are on the news saying
we should get these files out. The people have a
right to know why, because before they didn't want you
to see who was in there. Now they do.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Allow me to.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Introduce you this montage's courtesy of Maye More. By the way,
allow me to introduce you to Sonny Hoston.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
People were dying for this, and there was some sort
of list that everybody thought was going to come out.
And who's on the list. What's important for us to
note is we shouldn't be repeating names that are on
the list, because just because your name has not on
the list but in the documents. Just because your name
is on the documents, does it mean that you have
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done anything criminally irresponsible or illegal or civilly irresponsible, or
that you were clients or that you were a client.
The only really, these documents, as I read them, only
reflect Epstein's sexual assaults of women and his sexual behavior.
So I think that Healane and Galane and so being
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named in the suit does not equate to being accused
of wrongdoing. And I think that is extremely important because
conspiracy theories seem to not understand or enjoy facts.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
That's what she used to say.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Yes, these are the facts. There is a list. Trump's
name is on the logs, the passenger logs of Epstein's
aircraft at least seven times. That's already been made public.
I mean, of course Trump is denying any any and
know all allegations. But all of that information is out there.
Why not just put it to rest and say release the.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
LUKA Before when they didn't think he was in there, Hey,
get this list out of here. We don't need to
see a list. What about the victims, protect the victim.
It was only Jeffrey Epstein in the files. Now you've
even got Democrats like Dick Durbin saying, we need the lists.
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We got to put it out there.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We deserve to know, to put a bow on it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
My theory is Donald Trump is on that list, or
someone close to him.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
He is in those files.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
He has been newly added to those files, but he
is now in the files. They laid the trip wire
for him, and now he is in between a rock
and a hard place. Now you can open up the
books and who knows what they put in there about him.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You can open up the.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Books and if that happens, or if it leaks, which
I believe they will leak it, then you have to
go explain yourself, which I believe he's already doing.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's why he's saying.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Hopes hopes it's a hoax, is not credible to hoax.
I think he is pre explaining for what's going to
be exposed that and I think he's immensely frustrated, and
that's why he's lashing out at his own supporters. I
think he believes he's doing great things, and he is.
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I think he wants to just focus on that. He
doesn't want this landmine out there anymore, so he wants
everyone to blow it off and move on, and hey, guys,
just forget about it. Hey, can we just forget about it?
Please forget about But he's going about it in his way,
kind of scolding people. You're stupid, you're dumb.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
It was so today he didn't have a policy, some
lunatic around the desk kind of policy. Whoever operated the
autopen Cada policy, which is, by the way, I think
the biggest scandal. That's the scandal they should be talking about,
not Jeffrey Epstein. The scandal you should be talking about
is the autopen because I think it's the biggest scandal
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one of them.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Hey, there's a huge scandal.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I secured the border, we got trade deals coming in,
we got where deportations are happening. Looks like inflation might
be coming down. Focus, focus, focus, Please don't talk about this,
Please don't talk about this. But the problem is what
he's trying to do is an impossible task because of
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the reasons we've laid out. You cannot tell the American
people now to ignore a scandal that implicates powerful people,
because the people were tired of that stuff. They are,
they don't want to hear it, and we can't wish
it away. How to solve it? If my theory is correct,
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how does he solve it?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
How does he do it?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I'm not sure. How is he supposed to do it?
If opening the files means putting himself on blast, how
do you walk through that minefield? I don't have the answer,
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
So I have a theory.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's gonna be about the Trump Epstein stuff that can't
I can't seem to escape it. He won't stop talking
about it, You won't stop talking about it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
News stuff is out. So I have a.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Theory and I'm going to go over it, and I'm
telling you right now. It may make you cheer, it
may make you scream send me these stupid emails I'm
never less then again, or something like that. I don't know,
but I'm going to lay it out. My theory is
going to have things we know in it, and I
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will be clear about that. When we know something. My
theory will have sources of mind that have told me things,
and I'll be clear about that too.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I'm not going to give you names.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I can't do that, but I will be clear when
a source told me, I'll be clear when it's we know,
and I'll be clear when I get to the I
think because it is just a theory. But I'm about
to lay it all out. You do not have to
agree with my theory at all. God gave you a
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brain that works probably much better than mine does. Digest it. Listen,
I'll lay it out. You disagree, fine, you agree, fine,
But I think if I'm not correct on this, I
think I'm real, real close to the truth that's coming
here in a minute. But we're not just going to
do that. There's going to be an amnesty push inside
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of the GOP. Get yourself ready for that. We have
a woman who left the United States of America to
escape racism, who got beaten to a bloody pulp because
she's black. We have the country addicted to illegal immigration,
Maria Salazar's back in the news, all that emails, so
much more coming up tonight on the world famous Jesse
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Kelly Show. Now let us begin, and so let me
give the theory away right off the bat.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm going to do that thing.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm sure there's a term for it that smart people
will know, but I don't know what that term is.
I'm going to tell you in a very condensed sentence
or two what my theory is. And then over the
next hour I would guess maybe twenty minutes. I don't
know how long I'm going to lay out the reasons why,
and then I'll sum it up again the end.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Maybe I'll call us.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The sandwich method. Chris, I like that. I like sandwiches. What, Chris,
don't you understand that there's well either way, my theory.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Is Donald Trump. But what pause?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Pose, pause real quick for a second. I need to
do a little clarification. There's probably going to be a
moment or moments during this hour where I refer to
an Epstein list.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
If I do that, that's.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Not what I mean. Remember, as we discussed before, there
is no list. That's an Internet term. People said the
list released the list. Surely there's a list. Surely there's
an Excel spreadsheet with every criminal in their crimes. That's
not that doesn't exist. That's not a thing. What there
are Because of the trials around Epstein, there is a
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gigantic truckload of paperwork, boxes and boxes and boxes of
documentation of various kinds. If I say the word list,
just know that's what I'm talking about files, boxes of them,
lots of them in different places. Remember they were trying
to get them back from New York there and this
play through that they're everywhere. Okay, my theory is this.
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Donald Trump is on the list, He's in the files.
But if you're a Trump hater you love hearing that.
Let me clarify. I do not believe, and I'll lay
out my reasons for this, that Donald Trump did anything
wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. I do not believe that. I
believe the paperwork that would look bad for Donald Trump.
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I believe it's now in those files. I believe this
is my theory. I want to stress this is my
theory that it has been added to those files, probably
in the time between Joe Biden lost and Donald Trump
was sworn. In that theory I just lay it out again.
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May have angered you, maybe it interested you. I don't care.
But when I lay out the audio, the statements, things
we know, things we've heard, it all adds up.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So let's just go with. The emails are full.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Jesse, I figured you'd rather eat a bull of ricotta
than talk about Epstein anymore. However, I'm trying to figure
out why things feel so wrong about it. This guy says,
Jesse I suspect, with regard to Pam Bondi and the
Epstein fil debacle, that Trump's defensive reaction to criticism of
Bondi is due to a patriarchical instinct. He feels he
needs to protect women. This guy says, why won't Trump stop?
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Every time he puts out another statement, he makes it worse,
so on and so forth. Okay, okay, so let's lay
a couple things out here. The deep state, I know,
you know the term, maybe you use the term the swamp.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What is it? What actually is it?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
There are large, incredibly powerful federal agencies who have grown
in size and strength over the years. And over those
same years, Congress, frankly and the President have been happy
to hand over duties and obligations and just let the
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deep state, let the agencies handle it.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We don't want to deal with environmental regulations in Congress.
Let the EPA work that sort of thing out. I
don't want to do actual oversight of our intelligence operations.
I'm sure the CIA will work it out. Let just
give them another twenty billion dollars. Years and years and
years of that has created a fourth branch of our
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government where we're supposed to have three. This branch of
government is not only large and powerful, it has the
fright ability to destroy your life or my life. Let's
be clear about this. If these people set their sights
on you or me, they can destroy you. It's what
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they do. They don't just do it to your enemies,
to America's enemies. They do it primarily to their enemies,
the Deep States enemies. Remember she's still out there putting
out good work. But remember Cheryl Atkison. I've brought her
up before. Cheryl Atkinson was a journalist, I believe with CBS,
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I'm pretty sure about that. During Obama's presidency. You remember
Obama's presidency. Look, the media always slabbers over Democrats. That
was nothing new, but with Barack Obama, they took it
to a whole new level. It wasn't it wasn't that
they liked him. They loved him. They were infatuated with him.
He was everything, and so they were always always, always
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present him in the best possible light. Cheryl Akison at
least was not, not, to my knowledge, some right winger.
She wasn't you, she wasn't me. Just a journalist but
she was one of the rare ones who took that job. Seriously,
Barack Obama was doing horrible abuses of power over and
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over again. Cheryl Atkison was one of the few who
stepped up and said, hey, you want to answer some
questions about this. It didn't take long and Cheryl Akison
began to discover that the government was looking at her
in illegal, unconstitutional ways. And finally, do you remember this
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little bit of testimony from Chero Atkison?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Here it is one little reported facet of my case
is one of the federal agents involved in one of
the operations against me said that they intended to plant
child porn in my husband's computer. This is the FBI.
There's been a in case that's currently in litigation unrelated
in which an FBI agent has testified that they did
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that they have done that. It was not accomplished in
my case. I guess the curtain was drawn on that
facet of the operation prior to them doing it. But
imagine how you ever get out of that. They knew
we had a young daughter at home and has allegedly
conspired to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
The deep state has the power to destroy your life,
and they may have failed to do that to Cheryl
Atkinson's husband. But why do you think they would even
consider employing a method like that, Because they've done it before,
and because it works. Even if they can't get you
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in prison, and oftentimes they can. This fourth branch of
government is large enough and powerful enough to destroy your life.
So you wake up tomorrow morning and the local newspaper
and everybody on Facebook talks about the child pornography you
had on your computer the Feds planted there. That's how
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evil and powerful and purposeful they are. And we have
to understand that before we continue with my theory and
what I think is happening and why I think it's happening,
will continue in a moment. I am hopeful that you'll
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on a wonderful Wednesday, walking through this Epstein madness out
there my theory on it before we move on and
do other parts of the show, So allow me to
continue to lay it out. I already covered in the
opening about what the deep state will do and can do.
They can plant things on your computer. They can hide files,
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destroy files, add to files. Also, remember there's no list,
there's no client list. That's an idiotic Internet talking point.
That's not how it works. There are troves of documents,
boxes and boxes and boxes of them. Now those are
things we have to get clear. And I want to
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talk about something else that I know. Now, this is
not just from a source. This is from a well
placed source. You're just going to have to take my
word on that one. You know, the FBI with sole
blowers that I keep screaming about, brave FBI whistleblowers want
to be brought back. You know what I was told
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one of the reasons that at least one of them
wasn't brought back. And I don't have his permission, so
I can't. I don't want to use his name. But
you know why he wasn't brought back hasn't been brought
back yet because at some point during his suspension, some
new information was added to his file that made him
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appear to have character issues.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Now that it's time to review the file.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh look, we've got these pages in here. This looks
like a bad guy. We can't bring him back. They
edited the files, added to the files to make somebody
look bad and make him not hirable. I just want
to be crystal clear. That's the kind of thing these
people do. They're doing it now as we speak. I
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also want to be clear. Remember how loudly I screamed
about the delays, the delays of the confirmation of cash
Betel and Pambonni. And do you remember why it wasn't
because I'm friends with either of those people, have some
deep commitment to those people. It's not it at all whatsoever.
Remember why I would scream about that over and over
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and over again. Remember what I said during the time, Well, yeah, okay, Chris,
you have it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Go ahead, play it. It's long, go ahead, play it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Here's what I said. Trump was sworn in on January twentieth,
but there were some specific nominations that kept getting kicked
down the road. And you remember what I screamed about
during that rant, that speed matters. The reason you need
to move fast is so you can wrong foot the enemy.
The reason you don't want to delay is because every
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day you delay, it's a day the enemy's trenches get deeper,
his walls get higher, and I'm looking at an article
here from February sixth. This is from ABC News. Committee
vote on Cash Patel's nomination to be FBI director is
delayed after Democrats object. Why because maybe you're sitting there saying, well,
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they're Democrats, they're going to lock shields, They're going to object. Yes,
Democrats opposed pretty much every one of Trump's nominees almost universally,
with the exception of Rubio. Democrats voted against almost all
of them, but they didn't delay them. But Cash Battel
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head of the FBI, it really took a while. Tell
you what pause on that. We'll come back to it.
Pam Bondi, she was one of the last ones as well,
and in fact Pam Bondi was choice number two. Donald
Trump's first choice to be attorney general was Matt Gates.
Think about the GOP senators and how they reacted to
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other Trump nominees. They tried to raise a stink about
Hegxeth got smacked around for it. But other than that,
they confirmed all of them. RFK confirmed them all. Yet
Matt Gates attorney general. He was a bridge so far
that they couldn't whip the votes for him and dumped
him in a couple of days. Then they went with
Option B Pam Bondi and kept her to the end. Okay,
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now let's go back to the Cash Battel thing. Donald
Trump was sworn in on January twentieth. Sixteen days after that,
the Senate Democrats came out and they announced cash Ooh,
we're delaying him. But again I ask you why they
weren't going to stop him, even when they were asking
the hard questions about this or that or the book
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he wrote. There was never even the tiniest bit of
movement in the Senate GOP indicating the GOP was going
to vote against Cash Battel. Cash Battel becoming FBI director
was never, ever, ever in doubt. He had, as far
as I can hell, universal GOP support in the Senate.
So why delay him? Why is it that the head
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of the FBI you want to wait as long as
humanly possible before he takes over. What do you think
the communists were doing with these delays? I warned you
back in January. I think it was three days after
Trump's nomination. I was on the radio screaming, this is
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as close as I got to screaming screaming, this is
too slow. Why Because I knew exactly what the communists
were doing. The day after election night, Election nights on
a Tuesday, the first Tuesday in November, Wednesday, I promise you,
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the Secret Police Agency was making preparations, preparations. Do you
remember Donald Trump and the misery he went through during
his first presidency, especially the first two years of it.
Did you know that a lot of that stuff happened?
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A lot of the prep work for that happened after
Donald Trump won and before he was sworn in. When
communists are about to lose power, they don't sit around waiting. Instead,
they start adding things.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What do they add?
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walking through this thing step by step, laying out exactly
what my theory is why, And I'll get to Trump's statements.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'll read them.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'll get to a couple different things specifically. But I'm
laying out what sources have told me, things we know
from the past, from documentation, things we've heard from sources.
And allow me to repeat this one which I have
told you before, and this one is specifically about the FBI.
And I can assume because this source told me this
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about the FBI, that the same kind of thing was
taking place, and the other intelligence agencies. This source is
someone who would know. That's all I can say. And
the term he used was trip wires. I believe he
also used the term minds, but we'll stick with trip
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wires because I remember that. I'm asking, hey, what about
this at the FBI? What about that? I asked about
the Epstein files, what about that? I'm trying to get
information so I can bring it to you. And he
told me, Jesse, while they were waiting for Trump to
take over, the deep state, the swamp, whatever word you
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want to put on it, they were putting trip wires
up everywhere, laying mines everywhere, just like I told you
they were. They weren't sitting around waiting, Well, Trump's going
to get in there. Remember these people declared war on
Donald Trump for four years when he was president. Remember
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it was the deep state that really did that. It
was a deep state that got him impeached twice. We
even had the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, CIA directors,
they were all they all declared.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
War on Trump.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And then somebody tried to murder Donald Trump, arrested him,
tried to throw him in prison, but then he wins
an election. What do you do if you're part of
an agency that's been trying to destroy a powerful man.
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You even got him out of power, and then you
wake up one morning and you get the memo that
he's coming back to power. What do you do You
make preparation. Now, let's let me finish, hopefully finish laying
this out, because that was a long build up to this.
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People want to know why Trump used to say this.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Would you declassify the Epstein files?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And now almost every day we're getting this.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
He didn't have a policy, some lunatic around the desk
kind of policy. Whoever operated the autopen CADA policy, which is,
by the way, I think the biggest scandal. That's the
scandal they should be talking about, not Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Why are we talking about EPs Let's talk about the
autopen every day it's this And.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
You're attorney told you this was a hoax?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
What evidence he's got the journey General?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No, I know, it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats.
It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You
had Christopher Ray and these characters and call me before him.
It's a bad group. It started. Actually, look at the
Steele dossier that turned out to be a total hoax,
the fifty one agency intelligence so called intelligence agents.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It was a hoax.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the
Democrats and some stupid.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
We've been wondering why he's using this line. It's been
same line over and over again. He put this on
social media today today radical left of hit pay dirt again,
just like pay attention to this, just like with the fake,
in fully discredited Steele dossier, The line fifty one intelligence agencies,
the laptop from Hell, so on and so forth. He
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then goes on and says they stick together like glue.
This is their new scam. It'll forever be called the
Jeffrey Epstein hosts and my past supporters bought into this.
BP uses a potty word, hook line and sinker. They
haven't gotten it, they never will. Fond by the unitic,
lunatic left. I've had more success than six months and
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these idiots harsh, harsh words for people talking about people
caring about it. Now, why would he bring up the
Steele dossier again, the fifty one intelligence agents, the laptop
from Hell. Let me play this again what he said.
This is what he said. You see why there was
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a minute missing from the jail house team on the scene. Yeah, sir,
I'm good. I just in.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years? You're asking, we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things, and are
people still talking about this guy? This creep?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Can't we change the subject?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Do you see why there is a minute missing from
the jail house?
Speaker 7 (24:58):
As your attorney general, I told you this was a hoax?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
What evidence, Journey General?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
No, I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats.
It's been run by the demo.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Remember when Elon Musk and Donald Trump had the big
poop throwing contest online that made everybody uncomfortable. They had
a big falling out, and Elon Musk, wealthiest man in
the world, said this quote, time to drop the really
big bomb. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That's
(25:31):
the reason they've not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT.
That's quite a thing to throw out there, isn't it.
My theory is I believe Donald Trump is in the
Epstein files. I do not believe this again, this is
my theory. I do not believe that he did horrible
(25:54):
things with Jeffrey Epstein. I believe potentially, I guess he
could be a bad guy.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't know him. I believe potentially. I believe there
were edits additions made to the files trip wires, if
you will, before Donald Trump, cash Betel, Pam Bondi could
even step in there. I believe the Department of Justice,
the FBI they know this, of course, because they do
have the files, and I believe they've told him this.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
We all heard this exchange.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I just played a little bit of it with Trump
and Bondy the other day where Bondi was asked a
question and Donald Trump jumps in and we all, myself included,
thought Donald Trump was jumping in to defend her. Listen
to it again, after what I just said, maybe Pam
Bondi's defending him. Can you see why there was a
minute to sing from the jailhouse team on then, Yeah, sir,
(26:47):
I send you.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey and Epstein? This guy's
been talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas,
we have this, we have all of the and are
people still talking about this guy, this creep that is unbelievable.
Do you want to waste the time? And do you
(27:09):
feel like answered?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this, where we're having
some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what
happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
But you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
He's lashing out, he's calling everybody who cares about this stupid.
You're falling for a Democrat hoax. I think he knows that, yes,
the Communists, that they made additions to these files, additions
that will make him look bad in criminal I think
he's been told, mister president, we don't want all this
(27:50):
stuff exposed because you or someone close to you maybe
will look bad. And I think that's why he's taken
the very bizarre stance of you shouldn't talk about this anymore.
Shut up, you idiot, Let's talk about something else. Doesn't
land well. I see in my emails not landing well
(28:11):
with you. And I think Donald Trump's a lot of things.
He's most definitely not a dummy. I think he's aware
that's the kind of thing that's not going to land. Well,
so if you're saying something repeatedly, he's saying the same
thing over and over and over again. Move on, shut up,
move on, idiot, stop working. This is a hoax. It's
a hoax. I think he's prepping the ground. And let
(28:33):
me make a prediction, one that I pray to God
doesn't come true, because I hope my entire theory is wrong.
I think the information is going to leak. That's what
I think. And I think he knows this information is
going to leak, and that's why he has spent the
last week or two telling you this is made up,
(28:54):
this is incredible. He keeps using that term credible. This
is made up.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It's a hoax. It was James Comy, it was open.
It was a hoax. It's a hoax.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
It's a hoax. I don't think Donald Trump did anything
wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. I do believe he's in the files. Now,
I'll put a bow on this point that may drive
it home for you. Next Jesse Kelly returns. Next it
(29:22):
is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Wednesday. I
know it's been a long heavy first hour. Please keep
in mind if I have said anything that offends you,
I don't care, but you are welcome to emailing your love,
your hate, your death threats are I'm never listening again
to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Let me make
(29:46):
my final point, because maybe I threw you off with
this little bit of that theory. I would imagine you're
mostly with me on some of it. Maybe you disagree,
and again that's fine to disagree, it really is. I
hope you do sometimes. But maybe the part I say,
I don't think Donald Trump was in those files, but
I believe he now is, and I think they added
(30:07):
him in. Maybe that part of it, maybe that part
grades on you a little because you think, okay, is
he just defending Trump because it would be unpopular. Again,
I'm not defending or criticizing. I'm explaining I didn't put
that in there because I'm defending Donald Trump. It's not.
Do you know what has me convinced that Donald Trump
(30:28):
has been freshly added.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
To the Epstein files?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
The left? And here's why. The greatest point that was
made about the Epstein files during Biden's presidency, when people
were saying Trump must be on it. Trump must be
on it. The greatest point was if Trump was on it,
they would leak it. These are people who will lie, cheat, steal,
do whatever they have to to destroy their enemies, most
(30:57):
definitely destroy Donald Trump. If they had something damaging on Trump,
Epstein damaging on Trump, they would have leaked it. But
now now that it's in there, the same people who
were actually on television saying we should keep this quiet,
(31:19):
we have to protect the visdom. Now the same people
who said that it really wanted it released. Remember how
long democrats have said keep it quiet, keep it quiet.
There are victims, what about the victims, Keep it quiet,
keep it quiet.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And now those.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Same Democrats, politicians, media people are on the news saying
we should get these files out. The people have a
right to know why, because before they didn't want you
to see who was in there. Now they do.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Allow me to.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Introduce you this montage's courtesy of Maye More. By the way,
allow me to introduce you to Sonny Hoston.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
People were dying for this, and there was some sort
of list that everybody thought was going to come out.
And who's on the list. What's important for us to
note is we shouldn't be repeating names that are on
the list, because just because your name has not on
the list but in the documents. Just because your name
is on the documents, does it mean that you have
(32:18):
done anything criminally irresponsible or illegal or civilly irresponsible, or
that you were clients or that you were a client.
The only really, these documents, as I read them, only
reflect Epstein's sexual assaults of women and his sexual behavior.
So I think that Healane and Galane and so being
(32:42):
named in the suit does not equate to being accused
of wrongdoing. And I think that is extremely important because
conspiracy theories seem to not understand or enjoy facts.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
That's what she used to say.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Yes, these are the facts. There is a list. Trump's
name is on the logs, the passenger logs of Epstein's
aircraft at least seven times. That's already been made public.
I mean, of course Trump is denying any any and
know all allegations. But all of that information is out there.
Why not just put it to rest and say release the.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
LUKA Before when they didn't think he was in there, Hey,
get this list out of here. We don't need to
see a list. What about the victims, protect the victim.
It was only Jeffrey Epstein in the files. Now you've
even got Democrats like Dick Durbin saying, we need the lists.
(33:39):
We got to put it out there.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We deserve to know, to put a bow on it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
My theory is Donald Trump is on that list, or
someone close to him.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
He is in those files.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
He has been newly added to those files, but he
is now in the files. They laid the trip wire
for him, and now he is in between a rock
and a hard place. Now you can open up the
books and who knows what they put in there about him.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You can open up the.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Books and if that happens, or if it leaks, which
I believe they will leak it, then you have to
go explain yourself, which I believe he's already doing.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's why he's saying.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Hopes hopes it's a hoax, is not credible to hoax.
I think he is pre explaining for what's going to
be exposed that and I think he's immensely frustrated, and
that's why he's lashing out at his own supporters. I
think he believes he's doing great things, and he is.
(34:46):
I think he wants to just focus on that. He
doesn't want this landmine out there anymore, so he wants
everyone to blow it off and move on, and hey, guys,
just forget about it. Hey, can we just forget about it?
Please forget about But he's going about it in his way,
kind of scolding people. You're stupid, you're dumb.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
It was so today he didn't have a policy, some
lunatic around the desk kind of policy. Whoever operated the
autopen Cada policy, which is, by the way, I think
the biggest scandal. That's the scandal they should be talking about,
not Jeffrey Epstein. The scandal you should be talking about
is the autopen because I think it's the biggest scandal
(35:29):
one of them.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Hey, there's a huge scandal.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I secured the border, we got trade deals coming in,
we got where deportations are happening. Looks like inflation might
be coming down. Focus, focus, focus, Please don't talk about this,
Please don't talk about this. But the problem is what
he's trying to do is an impossible task because of
(35:51):
the reasons we've laid out. You cannot tell the American
people now to ignore a scandal that implicates powerful people,
because the people were tired of that stuff. They are,
they don't want to hear it, and we can't wish
it away. How to solve it? If my theory is correct,
(36:15):
how does he solve it?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
How does he do it?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I'm not sure. How is he supposed to do it?
If opening the files means putting himself on blast, how
do you walk through that minefield? I don't have the answer,
but that's my theory. As I said before, God gave
(36:38):
you your own brain. You don't need to use mine. Can
disagree with any part of it, but I laid out
exactly why I think what I think, and I think
it's pretty solid. Let's move on. We're done with this
for now. Let's talk about pure talk. Let's talk about
putting our money where our morals are. There are a
(36:59):
lot of problems we can't fix. Some problems we can.
You don't have to pay as much as you're paying
for cell phone. I know that you are charged ridiculous
prices by Verizon AT and T and T Mobile for
your mobile phone. You are, and the reason is because
they put a store on every corner. Who do you
think pays for that? You do? Puretalk? They hire Americans.
(37:24):
You will speak to an American on the phone, all
by phone, all by mail. You're not paying for a
new store on every street corner. You're just paying way
less for the exact same cell service. Keep your phone,
keep your number.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Or get a new one.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
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