February 19, 2025 • 37 mins
What is America’s crowning achievement? A negotiated peace is the norm. US war games against China. Ending the war in Ukraine.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show.
Let's have some fun on a Wednesday. It's hup day
and I am so unreasonably excited for tonight show for
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a couple different reasons. We are going to discuss. Yes,
the beginning of the end of the Ukraine Russia War
Putins involves Zolensky's upset, Europe's upset, everyone on the left supset.
Trump's trying to work out a deal, also scolding Zelensky.
There's so much to talk about when it comes to
that war. Some of it may offend you a morning
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you right now, We're gonna have a hard talk tonight.
I'll get to that in a moment that's coming. Democrats
are so lost. They're now stuck running sob stories about
fired federal workers nobody cares about. There's a terrible idea
coming out of this administration about sending some money back
to the American people. I'll make everyone mad when I
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on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Now, let's talk
because this is obviously going to eventually get to Russia Ukraine.
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Us Zelensky. Trump putin that if this is going to
get there, that's where we're going. But let's talk about
life black and white in gray. If you will, the
United States of America, if you had to, if you
had to choose our finest moment, our finest accomplishment, what
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would it be, just off the top of your head,
real quick, what would it be? You probably said World
War Two? And oh you did, Chris, and Chris did.
That's amazing. Look even if you didn't, maybe you didn't.
If you went and asked one hundred people, with them
all random people, not right left, middle, you asked them
what was America's finest hour? What was America's biggest accomplishment?
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They will say World War Two? And it's I'm not
saying you're wrong, keep in mind, but it's understandable. So
let's talk about why World War Two in Americans' minds
is our finest hour, the greatest generation, the greatest moment,
because well, there's a lot of reasons for it, but
one of the main reasons was this, we took on
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not one, but two in defensively, indefensively evil empires and
we won, and we smashed those empires to dust, removed
them completely to power, and got them away from the
rest of the world. We look at ourselves as world
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saviors for World War two, and I'm not saying we're
necessarily wrong about that at all. I'm not saying we're
wrong about that. Okay, that's good. We're probably all together
so far. Now Japan, we'll stick with Japan. Germany, the
same thing applies, but we'll stick with Japan for now.
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The strategic bombing campaign of Japan. Did you know, Look,
we look back on it now and I realized it's
still debated. Should we have dropped the atom bob all
those other things? But did you know that bombing Japanese cities,
which we bomb virtually all of them. Everyone knows about
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we reduced all of them to dust.
We burned Tokyo to the ground, burned it down, We
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fire bombed it, nay, palmed it, burned it to the ground.
Did you know that even at the time, it was
a cause of great debate inside American Paul, inside the
American military. People didn't feel comfortable. A lot of people
didn't feel comfortable. Do I bomb this city, that this
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factory's in the city, but there's a neighborhood right by it,
and nothing's accurate. Women and children will die. Should we
do it, Yeah, we have to do it. No, we
shouldn't do it. But why were we even having this
discussion Because the United States of America decided it decided
that unconditional surrender. You've heard that term many times before
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in your life. Unconditional surrender was how the war with
Japan must end. Unconditional surrender. You don't get to come
and bring terms, you don't get to say anything. You
will have no say whatsoever in your future or the
future of Japan. You will come before me, the United
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States of America. You will prostrate yourself before me, and
you will stand there at my mercy, and I will
tell you how everything is going to go, and you
have no say. That's what unconditional surrender is. And after
we pounded Japan to powder, including a double dose of
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an atom bomb, Japan finally relented. I'm not doing a
revisionist history of World War two. I'm not even criticizing
any of that. But that was how World War two ended.
That's how we came to an unconditional surrender. How in
the world do you get a people with strong morale
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like the Japanese? How do you get them to throw
themselves at your feet? You incinerate a million or two
of them. Eventually, you kill enough people, cause enough starvation
and death, you will get somebody to surrender eventually. Now
we're not doing a World War two history talk here.
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This is about today. This is very, very very much
about today. Because here's the thing. Remember when I just
asked you what was our finest moment, and you probably
said World War two. If you didn't, your ten buddies
did World War two? World War Two. We love World
War two because of what we accomplished as a country,
and we should be proud of that. We should be
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proud of that, and as part of that because of
our reverence, our reverence. Look, I just I've been talking
World War two all week. I'm the same. I'm not
separating myself from it. Our reverence for World War two, America,
the heroism are manufacturing the everything because of our reverence
for World War Two, how it was fought and how
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we ended it. Unconditional surrender has become lumped in with
how Americans think wars are supposed to be fought, and frankly,
how they've always been fought no.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Matter who you are fighting, whether you're fighting Al Qaeda,
whether you're fighting the Russians, the Chaikams, whether you're fighting Japan, Germany,
but whoever you happen to be fighting now the drug
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Speaker 1 (07:15):
I'm an American, and as an American, the only thing
I will accept this unconditional surrender. After all, that's what
we did in World War Two. That's how people think
about things. But we have to always step back and
get some perspective. One most wars, almost every war in
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the history of the world, has ended with a negotiated peace,
not unconditional surrender. A negotiated peace where one side, even
the winning side, gets together with the losing side and look,
is the losing side going to give some things up?
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You lost, of course, but the losing side doesn't have
to give up everything. In fact, it's rarely even asked for. Hey,
you're gonna give up some of this territory, You're gonna
have to give us this. I'm gonna need the look
if we're going Historically, I'm gonna need some hostages, So
your daughter is gonna come live with me in the
castle in case you get out of line. But look,
we came to a negotiating, negotiated surrender. Now we we
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don't like to speak like this because it involves negotiating
with people who have done wrong and who may have
even wronged us, and because war is so terrible. There's
so much raw emotion around it. If you've been involved
in it, if you've seen it, if you've smelled it,
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if you've heard it, the blood and the guts and
the tears and the loss and the misery. And when
you have suffered things like that at the hands of
someone else, another country, another tribe, whatever it may be,
it sounds awful to think that you might have to
go sit down at a negotiating table with them and
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give them things, allow them to have things. No, you
killed my friend, you bombed my town, my mom is gone.
You don't get anything ever. War without end. But that's
your emotion talking, and that is not how wars have ended.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Even the most horrible, drawn out, bloody wars, whether it
was with sticks and stones, bows and arrows, swords and shields.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Or whether it's with bombs, bullets, machine guns in the
like the most terrible, agonizing, awful. Wars generally end where
both sides realize, Hey, people are dying, this is expensive,
this is awful in the interest of both of our countries,
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Let's sit down, begin negotiations, and hash out a negotiated peace.
And that is a hard thing to swallow for a
lot of people, particularly a lot of Americans, who again
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bring back our reverence for World War Two. No Hitler,
you will leave, No Japan, get down before me and surrender.
We take that into every war now. But that's not
generally how the world works, and that's not how war works,
and historically that's not how things end. They don't end
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speaking of World War two and Americans framing everything around that,
we've also completely rewritten the history of World War two,
completely rewritten. We've sensored out the things we don't like,
left in the things we do. Listen to this complete moron.
This is a United States Senator Chris Vanholland listened to
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this right now.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But what they did in Munich.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
With just a response, just just to set this up.
This is in response to Trump saying, yeah, look, hey,
Zelenski's gonna have to give up some things and some
minerals to us for all the money we spent and
things like that. He owes us that money. We didn't
just give him all that stuff. And this is what
a United States senator says right now.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
But what they did in Munich with President Zelenski was
primarily to bully them, right The Secretary of Treasury handed
them a piece of paper that essentially required Ukraine to
hand over about fifty percent of its mineral reserves to
the United States simply in payment of the support that
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we've already given, which we've given because they were a
democratic country attacked by Putin and the Russian forces. I mean,
can you imagine FDR in the middle of World War
two saying to Churchill, you know, you know, we're not
going to continue to help you until you turn over
half of your coal and mineral reserves.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Do you have any idea how much of the British
Empire was handed to the United States of America because
of the new American len lease program. Are Americans so
dumbed down now about the basic facts of history that
we think we were just handing Britain a bunch of
equipment to fight the war without payment at all? Did
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you know that the British Empire had to hand to
US bases all over the world that were formerly theirs? No, no, no, no, no,
I know. The present United States of America is run
by a bunch of morons who believe the United States
of America only exists to enrich themselves, and so they
can grab gobs of American gold and throw it around
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the world wherever they so please. But that is not
how nations are run. When you get involved helping somebody,
whether they're a friend or not, they have to return
the favor in some way. And that's exactly how it
was done during World War II. Oh Churchill, you're in
some trouble. You need some help. Wow, that sucks. I
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feel bad. We will help you. What are you going
to give me? That's how things are done, That's how
it's always been done. But again, World War Two has
so twisted the minds of Americans who will only look
at everything through that lens that we don't acknowledge the
way the world actually works. Wars end with negotiated peace,
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and we have And this is totally understandable because I'm
the same way. We have this Marvel movie way of
looking at almost everything where the good guy always wins
and the bad guy always loses, and the good guy
will ride off into the sunset with the girl and
a nice house, and the bad guy will be vanquished forever.
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That's how we want the world to work, because we
want the good guy to win, and we don't want
the bad guy to have a single thing that's not
what we like. We want black and white. But in
the real world, Ironman sits down at a negotiating table
with Thanos and they work something out. I know that's crazy.
I know it sounds unpalatable. I don't want to have
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to work with bad guys, but life is working with
bad guys. I work with Chris every single day. Remember that.
So what's happening right now? What's happening right now is well,
I do think it would be helpful to do a
little bit of background, just very brief, because I know
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you know most of this. The United States of America
engineered a coup in Ukraine in twenty fourteen. Joe Biden
was involved in that coup. We did. This is your
opinion on it is not important to me at all.
We did. Everyone knows that. It's a documented fact. We
ousted their government and replaced it with the government we wanted. Obviously,
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you don't have to think very hard about why we
did that. We got a lot of things for that
worked out well for Hunter Biden, didn't it. But anyway,
that aside, we ousted their government and now we have
what they currently have, one of the most corrupt countries
on the planet. Okay, fine, Russia Ukraine. Russia was mad
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about that whole thing. I should note the coup that
we engineered in twenty fourteen. Putin was very very angry
about the whole thing for a variety of reasons. Ukraine
is rough around the edges. Putin is rough around the edges,
to put it, mildly bad human being. Not defending Putin.
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Putin decides he's going to invade Ukraine because the historically
Russian parts of Ukraine. And I don't even know if
I'm comfortable saying that it's just an area where lines
are always redrawn again. Negotiated pieces have happened a million
times in this area. We'll fight about this and then
you're gonna have to give me that. But we'll fight
about this that you'll give me that. There's a tradition,
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you know, traditionally Russian speaking areas of Ukraine. Putin said,
these are my people. I want them under my umbrella.
Putin launches an invasion. That this was three years ago,
and for three years, these two sides, I don't really
care for either of them, to be honest with you,
have lobbed artillery rounds and drones at each other, and
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they've butchered hundreds of thousands of men in their own countries.
A terrible, terrible, terrible affair. Every part of it has
been awful. If you've seen any of the video about it,
it's awful. World War one, World War two levels of awful.
It's just so far from us. It doesn't have that
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personal touch, if you will. Now the Biden administration, in fact,
pause on that. We'll get to the Biden administration in
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all the background on some World War two mentality and
the Russia Ukraine stuff the lead up into it. And
now Joe Biden gets elected. Joe Biden gets elected, and
I'm actually not gonna I'm not gonna do a bunch
of Joe Biden corruption CIA stuff because that doesn't matter.
But what does matter right now is during the four
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years of the Joe Biden presidency, Ukraine had an open
checkbook of American money. They did, and Zolensky embraced it.
Obviously he's over here addressing Congress. We have senator after senator,
including useless Barnacle United States Senator John Cornyn from the
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state of the Texas who needs to be tech primary
next year. We have all these senators just doing photo
ops with them, American actors going over there. We even
sent Randy Weiningarden communist John Denver over to over to
Ukraine to do a photo op. Became it became the
dejure of the days Lelensky. Look how great Zelensky is. Zelensky,
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you could have whatever you want, all the bombs. Bullet's
just take it. And remember Mitch McConnell got it on
this too. It was complete uniparties swamp nonsense. Mitch McConnell's
standing in front of the microphone telling everyone it's the
most important thing in the world. Joe Biden, who apparently
was unable to read pull numbers, routinely would get up
and brag about all the money and equipment we were
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sending over there. A complete one way of thinking. And
Zelenski loved it. Obviously, we bankrolled four years of butchery, well,
three years of butchery. We bankrolled it. We paid for
all of it. We held them up just enough, not
so they could win, but so they could stand up
and never fall. In an entire generation of Ukrainians and Russians,
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they're now gone, hundreds of thousands of lives gone. Butchery. Okay,
I got all that. That's what happened. Now Trump starts
to run for office. Trump is a foreign policy president,
and he's really really good at it. Even Trump one
point zero, which you know, I had a lot of
problems with with COVID and whatnot. Even Trump one point
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zero was an outstanding foreign policy president. Why is that
Donald Trump spent his entire life flying around the globe
and negotiating deals with powerful men. That's why Donald Trump
understands when you walk in a room with the Chinese diplomat,
with the German diplomat. With this, he understands exactly how
to negotiate things. Bottom line, he's really good at it.
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He's really good at foreign policy. Trump starts running for
office and says, this Russia Ukraine stuff has to end,
it has to end, it must end. And Zelenski, after
Trump's election, starts to chafe against Trump, starts to chafe
enough that he's saying things publicly against Trump. Now, keep
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in mind, the Russia Ukraine War without America ends two
and a half years ago. It's been going on what
three years, two and a half years ago. That war's
over without us. If that, we are the Russia Ukraine War.
Our equipment, our stuff has kept Ukraine up. We've given
more than all of Europe combined. It is all our stuff.
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It's our stuff. Selensky loved that program. Remember when he
flew over here and was signing American artillery shows that
were coming his way. American politicians ha Zelensky. Well, Trump says, hey,
it's got to stop. Now, the butcher, he's got to stop.
So Zelensky starts bad mouthing. Trump said that he is
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living in a disinformation era that just starts dogging Trump,
So that obviously is not smart. It was so not smart.
Jd Vance came out and told Zelensky, uh, stop bad
mouthing Trump, please, we're negotiating a piece here, We're negotiating
a piece. But you know how Trump is Lensky a
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little more on publicly dogged on Trump, and well you
know that's going to go for Well.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
We have ouashin where we haven't had elections in Ukraine.
Well we have martial law essentially marshal law in Ukraine
where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to
say it, but he's down at four percent approval writing
and where a country has been blown to smithereens you
got most of the cities are laying on their sides,
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The buildings are collapsed. It looks like a massive demolition site.
And yeah, I would say that, you know, when they
want a seat at the table, you could say that
people have to wouldn't the people of Ukraine have to say, like,
you know, it's been a long time since we've had
an election.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That's not a Russia thing.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
That's something coming from me and coming from many other countries.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Also and an election. Let's just focus on that point
really quickly. Here's a headline from Newsweek. I'm not even
kidding Zelensky could be ousted as Trump demand a Ukraine election. Well,
shouldn't the people of Ukraine. Shouldn't they get some, say,
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some seat at the table because they're the ones dying.
Maybe they're done with all this, Maybe they're finished with it.
But the guy who's currently in charge won't allow elections,
and so we have no idea. All we know is
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what Zelenski's will is. We know what the European will is.
We know what the American lefts will is. We know
about Lindsey Grahams will. We know all these things. But
what we don't know is what the poor people on
the ground think about the butchery that has taken place
in that country for the last three years. We don't
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know because they won't allow an election. Now, this is
not about being pro Russia or anything like that. Frankly,
I don't really care for Russia, and I definitely don't
care for Putin. I don't care for you Zelenski either.
I don't care for these types of dictators. I don't
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they're both dictators, both of them. Putin doesn't allow elections either.
He's a dirt ball too. But the point of all
this is when we look at things like this, Russia
the bigger country and vaded the smaller country. We have
this old World War two Marvel movie way of thinking,
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where the United States of America can and must step
in fight this war, vanquish the enemy with unconditional surrender.
And that's the only way this should end. And anything
else is caving to Hitler. But that's not how wars
generally end. One side the loser. As of right now,
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that's not even debatable. That's Ukraine one side the loser. Yes,
they have to give some things up. No, they should
not be made to give everything up. That's not how
it works. But they because they lack leverage, they're the
ones who have to sit at the table and they
have well, you give up this, give up that. And historically,
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countries like America, we've done this many times. We tend
to mediate these meetings where we go in and we
ensure that Russia doesn't take more than they should take.
We ensure Ukraine is treated humanely. We don't want Ukrainians
to be Russian slaves after this. But this is the
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only way this ends. And so look, there's a chance,
because Zelensky is begging the Europeans, the Europeans are furious
about this ending. I guess there's a chance. Maybe these
negotiations fail, Maybe we wash our hands of it, because
Trump will at some point in time, maybe Zelenski things
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just Ukraine and the Europeans are gonna take on the
Russian bear. And if that's the case, you know what,
I actually bless them to it. I would disagree with
the Polsy, but not my circus, not my monkey. Go
have a good time. But it is time for our
involvement in this to end, and I, for one, am
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glad we are trying to end it peacefully with a negotiation.
Everyone going through a divorce says things. She's not getting
the car, she's not getting my dog, she's not getting
to Fine China. Everybody I've ever had, who's ever gotten
a divorce has said these things to me. She's not
getting she's not getting my DVD set. And she walks
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away with the DVD set every time, and she says
the same things ladies say to say, he's not getting it,
he's walking away with some things you love. Every time.
It's ugly. We don't like it. It's how it works,
it's how life is. Life's ugly sometimes. All right, Speaking
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emails in a moment. Remember you can email the show
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We will make fun
of Democrats. Shortly, we'll talk about this idea about sending
us all checks and stuff like that. Just a couple
more points really quickly. On the on the Russia Ukraine thing,
I'm gonna move on one. No more of our money,
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no more of our bombs, no more of our bullets,
no more of our money. If they if they want
to keep fighting, If Russia, Ukraine and Europe, if they
want to keep fighting, bless them to it. I love
the United States of America under Trump is trying to
negotiate an end to the whole thing, so the butcher
he can stop. If that is rebuffed, then have a
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nice war. We will watch it on YouTube. All that said,
I think a lot of this is bluster. Remember everyone's
staking out a negotiating position right now. No, I'll never end. No,
I won't give up these minerals. No. People like to
stake out these positions. It's part of negotiation. We've talked
about this before. But you know, Ukraine and Europe. Who's
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going to go fight that war for Europe? Europe has
facilitated an invasion of their country by foreign barbarians. That
even makes what Joe Biden did look weak look small
by comparison. The only people who would sign up to
go fight in Europe's wars would be the native Europeans
who would be you know, Germans fighting for Germany, the
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French fighting for fighting for France, things like that. So
you're what, You're going to sign up to go fight
for Ukraine against Russia and you're going to leave the
eighty five Syrian refugees in town with your wife? Nah?
I don't think so. Speaking of Europe, who's going to
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fund it?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
People?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Do understand that we the United States of America, we
fund all of Europe's defense. The reason Europe was able
to turn into a quasi socialist state with free this
and free that, and free this and free that is
because they never had to invest in a military that
could rebuff Russia. Well, if you're going to take them
on pal, guess what all those lovely social programs you
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used to bribe this citizenry to get you elected, those
are going to have to go bye bye. I do
believe with all the bluster we see from Putin and
Zelenski and Europe, and I do believe the United States
of America Trump specifically, will be able to end this
thing simply because we have the most leverage. Negotiations are
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all about leverage. Putin has some leverage because a he
has a bunch of nuclear weapons. B. He currently holds
some territory that used to be Ukraines. That gives him leverage.
He holds it. Ukraine can't seem to get him out
of it. That gives him leverage. The United States of
America has the most leverage by a mile, because we've
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funded the entire thing. We can continue funding, and we
can end it. We have all the leverage in the world.
Ukraine like it or not. Maybe you've got yourself wrapped
in a Ukrainian blanky right now and that's fine. No,
not the dogging on you at all. Ukraine has no
leverage at all, none. They don't have the military to
repel Russia, they don't have the funds to keep things going.
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They don't have any leverage at all. Zelensky has been
forced for three years to come grovel at the feet
of American politicians in order to keep the thing going.
The gravy train has to stop. The war must end.
I believe it will in the end. But again, if
Europe and Ukraine want to go, have a good time,
enjoy it. Let me know how the Russian winner works
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out for you. Hey, I am Jesse. Let's do some emails.
I enjoyed the show. Jesse mentioned on the air that
we had wargamed Russia. I'm not questioning his accuracy. I
would just like to know the source. Keep up the
good work. Well, we have wargamed Russia, but that's not
what I said. We have wargamed China. And this was
when I was going off on a rant about American
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manufacturing and logistics. And oh, by the way, speaking of logistics,
halfway through next hour, we have one of these shipping
logistics guys who's gonna come on and nerd out on
some of that stuff. So just stay with me there.
But back to what I was saying, the war with China,
if there is a coming war with China, it will
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be really it'll be fought over there because that's where
China is trying. They're trying to lock down their control
of that area. It's not only time on, it's the Philippines.
I smoke up this morning, there was another Chinese naval
vessel harassing people. China is trying to lock in their
sphere of influence. So if we were to actually get
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into a spicy conflict with China, god forbid, because it
would be horrible. It would have to be fought over there.
They're not coming here, they don't need to come here.
They already own the American media and Hollywood and half
our politicians. But setting that aside, it would have to
be fought over there. And modern wars, if you're to
believe the experts people I trust, actually real experts, not
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the more on you see on television. If you're to
believe real experts, modern wars, they're going to be Missile wars.
Kind of scary to think about, isn't it, Because it
means you can be touched from anywhere, especially now that
China has hypersonic missiles, Russia has hypersonic missiles. We are
rapidly developed and have probably already developed hypersonic missiles. That
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means they can hit all of you wherever you're sitting
right now listening to the sound of my Saudi Arabia, Texas, Germany.
I don't care where it is. You can have a
missile land in your lap too. It's scary. It puts
all of us on the battlefield and missiles. A missile war,
it makes traditional ways of thinking, it can make them obsolete.
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We were just talking World War Two at the beginning
of this hour. One of the things I love the
most that fills me with pride about World War Two
is sorry, my fellow Marine Corps brothers, the United States
Navy and World War Two. I talk about them lovingly
all the time. It was just awesome, this massive, powerful
fleet projecting American power all over the world. Well, why
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would you pay five hundred billion dollars for an aircraft
carrier when one Chinese missile can send it to the bottom.
A missile war changes things back to what we were
discussing war games with China. It's not like we've only
fought one. We're trying to figure out how did it go.
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The problem is not our navy. The problem is not
our Air Force r Army. It would never be the
Marine Corps, of course, of separ five. The problem is logistics. Missiles.
We don't have enough, we don't make enough. Let's say
China invades Taiwan, or the Philippines or something like that,
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and we decide we want to go tangle with them.
We run out of missiles in a week. If they
have plenty of missiles sweeping our navy off the seas
and we don't have missiles to counter their missiles, well
war over. I don't care how many aircraft carriers you have.
War Over. It's over. That is the problem. All right,
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we're going to talk a little bit, but you know what,
let's make fun of democrats and then we'll discuss sending
Americans five thousand dollars trucks.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Hang on,
This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show.
Let's have some fun on a Wednesday. It's hup day
and I am so unreasonably excited for tonight show for
(00:31):
a couple different reasons. We are going to discuss. Yes,
the beginning of the end of the Ukraine Russia War
Putins involves Zolensky's upset, Europe's upset, everyone on the left supset.
Trump's trying to work out a deal, also scolding Zelensky.
There's so much to talk about when it comes to
that war. Some of it may offend you a morning
(00:52):
you right now, We're gonna have a hard talk tonight.
I'll get to that in a moment that's coming. Democrats
are so lost. They're now stuck running sob stories about
fired federal workers nobody cares about. There's a terrible idea
coming out of this administration about sending some money back
to the American people. I'll make everyone mad when I
(01:12):
discussed that the budget process is coming. That's gonna be
horrific emails. All that, so much more coming up tonight
on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Now, let's talk
because this is obviously going to eventually get to Russia Ukraine.
(01:33):
Us Zelensky. Trump putin that if this is going to
get there, that's where we're going. But let's talk about
life black and white in gray. If you will, the
United States of America, if you had to, if you
had to choose our finest moment, our finest accomplishment, what
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would it be, just off the top of your head,
real quick, what would it be? You probably said World
War Two? And oh you did, Chris, and Chris did.
That's amazing. Look even if you didn't, maybe you didn't.
If you went and asked one hundred people, with them
all random people, not right left, middle, you asked them
what was America's finest hour? What was America's biggest accomplishment?
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They will say World War Two? And it's I'm not
saying you're wrong, keep in mind, but it's understandable. So
let's talk about why World War Two in Americans' minds
is our finest hour, the greatest generation, the greatest moment,
because well, there's a lot of reasons for it, but
one of the main reasons was this, we took on
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not one, but two in defensively, indefensively evil empires and
we won, and we smashed those empires to dust, removed
them completely to power, and got them away from the
rest of the world. We look at ourselves as world
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saviors for World War two, and I'm not saying we're
necessarily wrong about that at all. I'm not saying we're
wrong about that. Okay, that's good. We're probably all together
so far. Now Japan, we'll stick with Japan. Germany, the
same thing applies, but we'll stick with Japan for now.
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The strategic bombing campaign of Japan. Did you know, Look,
we look back on it now and I realized it's
still debated. Should we have dropped the atom bob all
those other things? But did you know that bombing Japanese cities,
which we bomb virtually all of them. Everyone knows about
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we reduced all of them to dust.
We burned Tokyo to the ground, burned it down, We
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fire bombed it, nay, palmed it, burned it to the ground.
Did you know that even at the time, it was
a cause of great debate inside American Paul, inside the
American military. People didn't feel comfortable. A lot of people
didn't feel comfortable. Do I bomb this city, that this
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factory's in the city, but there's a neighborhood right by it,
and nothing's accurate. Women and children will die. Should we
do it, Yeah, we have to do it. No, we
shouldn't do it. But why were we even having this
discussion Because the United States of America decided it decided
that unconditional surrender. You've heard that term many times before
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in your life. Unconditional surrender was how the war with
Japan must end. Unconditional surrender. You don't get to come
and bring terms, you don't get to say anything. You
will have no say whatsoever in your future or the
future of Japan. You will come before me, the United
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States of America. You will prostrate yourself before me, and
you will stand there at my mercy, and I will
tell you how everything is going to go, and you
have no say. That's what unconditional surrender is. And after
we pounded Japan to powder, including a double dose of
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an atom bomb, Japan finally relented. I'm not doing a
revisionist history of World War two. I'm not even criticizing
any of that. But that was how World War two ended.
That's how we came to an unconditional surrender. How in
the world do you get a people with strong morale
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like the Japanese? How do you get them to throw
themselves at your feet? You incinerate a million or two
of them. Eventually, you kill enough people, cause enough starvation
and death, you will get somebody to surrender eventually. Now
we're not doing a World War two history talk here.
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This is about today. This is very, very very much
about today. Because here's the thing. Remember when I just
asked you what was our finest moment, and you probably
said World War two. If you didn't, your ten buddies
did World War two? World War Two. We love World
War two because of what we accomplished as a country,
and we should be proud of that. We should be
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proud of that, and as part of that because of
our reverence, our reverence. Look, I just I've been talking
World War two all week. I'm the same. I'm not
separating myself from it. Our reverence for World War two, America,
the heroism are manufacturing the everything because of our reverence
for World War Two, how it was fought and how
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we ended it. Unconditional surrender has become lumped in with
how Americans think wars are supposed to be fought, and frankly,
how they've always been fought no.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Matter who you are fighting, whether you're fighting Al Qaeda,
whether you're fighting the Russians, the Chaikams, whether you're fighting Japan, Germany,
but whoever you happen to be fighting now the drug
cartel wars are coming no matter who you are fighting.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I'm an American, and as an American, the only thing
I will accept this unconditional surrender. After all, that's what
we did in World War Two. That's how people think
about things. But we have to always step back and
get some perspective. One most wars, almost every war in
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the history of the world, has ended with a negotiated peace,
not unconditional surrender. A negotiated peace where one side, even
the winning side, gets together with the losing side and look,
is the losing side going to give some things up?
(07:59):
You lost, of course, but the losing side doesn't have
to give up everything. In fact, it's rarely even asked for. Hey,
you're gonna give up some of this territory, You're gonna
have to give us this. I'm gonna need the look
if we're going Historically, I'm gonna need some hostages, So
your daughter is gonna come live with me in the
castle in case you get out of line. But look,
we came to a negotiating, negotiated surrender. Now we we
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don't like to speak like this because it involves negotiating
with people who have done wrong and who may have
even wronged us, and because war is so terrible. There's
so much raw emotion around it. If you've been involved
in it, if you've seen it, if you've smelled it,
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if you've heard it, the blood and the guts and
the tears and the loss and the misery. And when
you have suffered things like that at the hands of
someone else, another country, another tribe, whatever it may be,
it sounds awful to think that you might have to
go sit down at a negotiating table with them and
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give them things, allow them to have things. No, you
killed my friend, you bombed my town, my mom is gone.
You don't get anything ever. War without end. But that's
your emotion talking, and that is not how wars have ended.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Even the most horrible, drawn out, bloody wars, whether it
was with sticks and stones, bows and arrows, swords and shields.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Or whether it's with bombs, bullets, machine guns in the
like the most terrible, agonizing, awful. Wars generally end where
both sides realize, Hey, people are dying, this is expensive,
this is awful in the interest of both of our countries,
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Let's sit down, begin negotiations, and hash out a negotiated peace.
And that is a hard thing to swallow for a
lot of people, particularly a lot of Americans, who again
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bring back our reverence for World War Two. No Hitler,
you will leave, No Japan, get down before me and surrender.
We take that into every war now. But that's not
generally how the world works, and that's not how war works,
and historically that's not how things end. They don't end
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that way. We'll talk a lot more about this, and
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speaking of World War two and Americans framing everything around that,
we've also completely rewritten the history of World War two,
completely rewritten. We've sensored out the things we don't like,
left in the things we do. Listen to this complete moron.
This is a United States Senator Chris Vanholland listened to
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this right now.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But what they did in Munich.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
With just a response, just just to set this up.
This is in response to Trump saying, yeah, look, hey,
Zelenski's gonna have to give up some things and some
minerals to us for all the money we spent and
things like that. He owes us that money. We didn't
just give him all that stuff. And this is what
a United States senator says right now.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
But what they did in Munich with President Zelenski was
primarily to bully them, right The Secretary of Treasury handed
them a piece of paper that essentially required Ukraine to
hand over about fifty percent of its mineral reserves to
the United States simply in payment of the support that
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we've already given, which we've given because they were a
democratic country attacked by Putin and the Russian forces. I mean,
can you imagine FDR in the middle of World War
two saying to Churchill, you know, you know, we're not
going to continue to help you until you turn over
half of your coal and mineral reserves.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Do you have any idea how much of the British
Empire was handed to the United States of America because
of the new American len lease program. Are Americans so
dumbed down now about the basic facts of history that
we think we were just handing Britain a bunch of
equipment to fight the war without payment at all? Did
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you know that the British Empire had to hand to
US bases all over the world that were formerly theirs? No, no, no, no, no,
I know. The present United States of America is run
by a bunch of morons who believe the United States
of America only exists to enrich themselves, and so they
can grab gobs of American gold and throw it around
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the world wherever they so please. But that is not
how nations are run. When you get involved helping somebody,
whether they're a friend or not, they have to return
the favor in some way. And that's exactly how it
was done during World War II. Oh Churchill, you're in
some trouble. You need some help. Wow, that sucks. I
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feel bad. We will help you. What are you going
to give me? That's how things are done, That's how
it's always been done. But again, World War Two has
so twisted the minds of Americans who will only look
at everything through that lens that we don't acknowledge the
way the world actually works. Wars end with negotiated peace,
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and we have And this is totally understandable because I'm
the same way. We have this Marvel movie way of
looking at almost everything where the good guy always wins
and the bad guy always loses, and the good guy
will ride off into the sunset with the girl and
a nice house, and the bad guy will be vanquished forever.
(15:33):
That's how we want the world to work, because we
want the good guy to win, and we don't want
the bad guy to have a single thing that's not
what we like. We want black and white. But in
the real world, Ironman sits down at a negotiating table
with Thanos and they work something out. I know that's crazy.
I know it sounds unpalatable. I don't want to have
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to work with bad guys, but life is working with
bad guys. I work with Chris every single day. Remember that.
So what's happening right now? What's happening right now is well,
I do think it would be helpful to do a
little bit of background, just very brief, because I know
(16:16):
you know most of this. The United States of America
engineered a coup in Ukraine in twenty fourteen. Joe Biden
was involved in that coup. We did. This is your
opinion on it is not important to me at all.
We did. Everyone knows that. It's a documented fact. We
ousted their government and replaced it with the government we wanted. Obviously,
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you don't have to think very hard about why we
did that. We got a lot of things for that
worked out well for Hunter Biden, didn't it. But anyway,
that aside, we ousted their government and now we have
what they currently have, one of the most corrupt countries
on the planet. Okay, fine, Russia Ukraine. Russia was mad
(17:02):
about that whole thing. I should note the coup that
we engineered in twenty fourteen. Putin was very very angry
about the whole thing for a variety of reasons. Ukraine
is rough around the edges. Putin is rough around the edges,
to put it, mildly bad human being. Not defending Putin.
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Putin decides he's going to invade Ukraine because the historically
Russian parts of Ukraine. And I don't even know if
I'm comfortable saying that it's just an area where lines
are always redrawn again. Negotiated pieces have happened a million
times in this area. We'll fight about this and then
you're gonna have to give me that. But we'll fight
about this that you'll give me that. There's a tradition,
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you know, traditionally Russian speaking areas of Ukraine. Putin said,
these are my people. I want them under my umbrella.
Putin launches an invasion. That this was three years ago,
and for three years, these two sides, I don't really
care for either of them, to be honest with you,
have lobbed artillery rounds and drones at each other, and
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they've butchered hundreds of thousands of men in their own countries.
A terrible, terrible, terrible affair. Every part of it has
been awful. If you've seen any of the video about it,
it's awful. World War one, World War two levels of awful.
It's just so far from us. It doesn't have that
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personal touch, if you will. Now the Biden administration, in fact,
pause on that. We'll get to the Biden administration in
a moment. Before we get to that, history can be
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all the background on some World War two mentality and
the Russia Ukraine stuff the lead up into it. And
now Joe Biden gets elected. Joe Biden gets elected, and
I'm actually not gonna I'm not gonna do a bunch
of Joe Biden corruption CIA stuff because that doesn't matter.
But what does matter right now is during the four
(20:15):
years of the Joe Biden presidency, Ukraine had an open
checkbook of American money. They did, and Zolensky embraced it.
Obviously he's over here addressing Congress. We have senator after senator,
including useless Barnacle United States Senator John Cornyn from the
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state of the Texas who needs to be tech primary
next year. We have all these senators just doing photo
ops with them, American actors going over there. We even
sent Randy Weiningarden communist John Denver over to over to
Ukraine to do a photo op. Became it became the
dejure of the days Lelensky. Look how great Zelensky is. Zelensky,
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you could have whatever you want, all the bombs. Bullet's
just take it. And remember Mitch McConnell got it on
this too. It was complete uniparties swamp nonsense. Mitch McConnell's
standing in front of the microphone telling everyone it's the
most important thing in the world. Joe Biden, who apparently
was unable to read pull numbers, routinely would get up
and brag about all the money and equipment we were
(21:18):
sending over there. A complete one way of thinking. And
Zelenski loved it. Obviously, we bankrolled four years of butchery, well,
three years of butchery. We bankrolled it. We paid for
all of it. We held them up just enough, not
so they could win, but so they could stand up
and never fall. In an entire generation of Ukrainians and Russians,
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they're now gone, hundreds of thousands of lives gone. Butchery. Okay,
I got all that. That's what happened. Now Trump starts
to run for office. Trump is a foreign policy president,
and he's really really good at it. Even Trump one
point zero, which you know, I had a lot of
problems with with COVID and whatnot. Even Trump one point
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zero was an outstanding foreign policy president. Why is that
Donald Trump spent his entire life flying around the globe
and negotiating deals with powerful men. That's why Donald Trump
understands when you walk in a room with the Chinese diplomat,
with the German diplomat. With this, he understands exactly how
to negotiate things. Bottom line, he's really good at it.
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He's really good at foreign policy. Trump starts running for
office and says, this Russia Ukraine stuff has to end,
it has to end, it must end. And Zelenski, after
Trump's election, starts to chafe against Trump, starts to chafe
enough that he's saying things publicly against Trump. Now, keep
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in mind, the Russia Ukraine War without America ends two
and a half years ago. It's been going on what
three years, two and a half years ago. That war's
over without us. If that, we are the Russia Ukraine War.
Our equipment, our stuff has kept Ukraine up. We've given
more than all of Europe combined. It is all our stuff.
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It's our stuff. Selensky loved that program. Remember when he
flew over here and was signing American artillery shows that
were coming his way. American politicians ha Zelensky. Well, Trump says, hey,
it's got to stop. Now, the butcher, he's got to stop.
So Zelensky starts bad mouthing. Trump said that he is
(23:36):
living in a disinformation era that just starts dogging Trump,
So that obviously is not smart. It was so not smart.
Jd Vance came out and told Zelensky, uh, stop bad
mouthing Trump, please, we're negotiating a piece here, We're negotiating
a piece. But you know how Trump is Lensky a
(24:00):
little more on publicly dogged on Trump, and well you
know that's going to go for Well.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
We have ouashin where we haven't had elections in Ukraine.
Well we have martial law essentially marshal law in Ukraine
where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to
say it, but he's down at four percent approval writing
and where a country has been blown to smithereens you
got most of the cities are laying on their sides,
(24:26):
The buildings are collapsed. It looks like a massive demolition site.
And yeah, I would say that, you know, when they
want a seat at the table, you could say that
people have to wouldn't the people of Ukraine have to say, like,
you know, it's been a long time since we've had
an election.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That's not a Russia thing.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
That's something coming from me and coming from many other countries.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Also and an election. Let's just focus on that point
really quickly. Here's a headline from Newsweek. I'm not even
kidding Zelensky could be ousted as Trump demand a Ukraine election. Well,
shouldn't the people of Ukraine. Shouldn't they get some, say,
(25:11):
some seat at the table because they're the ones dying.
Maybe they're done with all this, Maybe they're finished with it.
But the guy who's currently in charge won't allow elections,
and so we have no idea. All we know is
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what Zelenski's will is. We know what the European will is.
We know what the American lefts will is. We know
about Lindsey Grahams will. We know all these things. But
what we don't know is what the poor people on
the ground think about the butchery that has taken place
in that country for the last three years. We don't
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know because they won't allow an election. Now, this is
not about being pro Russia or anything like that. Frankly,
I don't really care for Russia, and I definitely don't
care for Putin. I don't care for you Zelenski either.
I don't care for these types of dictators. I don't
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they're both dictators, both of them. Putin doesn't allow elections either.
He's a dirt ball too. But the point of all
this is when we look at things like this, Russia
the bigger country and vaded the smaller country. We have
this old World War two Marvel movie way of thinking,
(26:37):
where the United States of America can and must step
in fight this war, vanquish the enemy with unconditional surrender.
And that's the only way this should end. And anything
else is caving to Hitler. But that's not how wars
generally end. One side the loser. As of right now,
(27:02):
that's not even debatable. That's Ukraine one side the loser. Yes,
they have to give some things up. No, they should
not be made to give everything up. That's not how
it works. But they because they lack leverage, they're the
ones who have to sit at the table and they
have well, you give up this, give up that. And historically,
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countries like America, we've done this many times. We tend
to mediate these meetings where we go in and we
ensure that Russia doesn't take more than they should take.
We ensure Ukraine is treated humanely. We don't want Ukrainians
to be Russian slaves after this. But this is the
(27:47):
only way this ends. And so look, there's a chance,
because Zelensky is begging the Europeans, the Europeans are furious
about this ending. I guess there's a chance. Maybe these
negotiations fail, Maybe we wash our hands of it, because
Trump will at some point in time, maybe Zelenski things
(28:10):
just Ukraine and the Europeans are gonna take on the
Russian bear. And if that's the case, you know what,
I actually bless them to it. I would disagree with
the Polsy, but not my circus, not my monkey. Go
have a good time. But it is time for our
involvement in this to end, and I, for one, am
(28:31):
glad we are trying to end it peacefully with a negotiation.
Everyone going through a divorce says things. She's not getting
the car, she's not getting my dog, she's not getting
to Fine China. Everybody I've ever had, who's ever gotten
a divorce has said these things to me. She's not
getting she's not getting my DVD set. And she walks
(28:53):
away with the DVD set every time, and she says
the same things ladies say to say, he's not getting it,
he's walking away with some things you love. Every time.
It's ugly. We don't like it. It's how it works,
it's how life is. Life's ugly sometimes. All right, Speaking
of ugly, let's talk about the employment situation in this country.
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It's ugly. It's hard. I sympathize. If you're looking for help,
believe it. Look what I deal with. I sympathize. It's
hard to find good help. You need to go to
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dot com slash Jesse. That next employee who's not Chris
waiting for you, go find him. We'll be back feeling
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of taking care of business, I will get to the
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emails in a moment. Remember you can email the show
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We will make fun
of Democrats. Shortly, we'll talk about this idea about sending
us all checks and stuff like that. Just a couple
more points really quickly. On the on the Russia Ukraine thing,
I'm gonna move on one. No more of our money,
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no more of our bombs, no more of our bullets,
no more of our money. If they if they want
to keep fighting, If Russia, Ukraine and Europe, if they
want to keep fighting, bless them to it. I love
the United States of America under Trump is trying to
negotiate an end to the whole thing, so the butcher
he can stop. If that is rebuffed, then have a
(31:10):
nice war. We will watch it on YouTube. All that said,
I think a lot of this is bluster. Remember everyone's
staking out a negotiating position right now. No, I'll never end. No,
I won't give up these minerals. No. People like to
stake out these positions. It's part of negotiation. We've talked
about this before. But you know, Ukraine and Europe. Who's
(31:32):
going to go fight that war for Europe? Europe has
facilitated an invasion of their country by foreign barbarians. That
even makes what Joe Biden did look weak look small
by comparison. The only people who would sign up to
go fight in Europe's wars would be the native Europeans
who would be you know, Germans fighting for Germany, the
(31:53):
French fighting for fighting for France, things like that. So
you're what, You're going to sign up to go fight
for Ukraine against Russia and you're going to leave the
eighty five Syrian refugees in town with your wife? Nah?
I don't think so. Speaking of Europe, who's going to
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fund it?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
People?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Do understand that we the United States of America, we
fund all of Europe's defense. The reason Europe was able
to turn into a quasi socialist state with free this
and free that, and free this and free that is
because they never had to invest in a military that
could rebuff Russia. Well, if you're going to take them
on pal, guess what all those lovely social programs you
(32:38):
used to bribe this citizenry to get you elected, those
are going to have to go bye bye. I do
believe with all the bluster we see from Putin and
Zelenski and Europe, and I do believe the United States
of America Trump specifically, will be able to end this
thing simply because we have the most leverage. Negotiations are
(32:59):
all about leverage. Putin has some leverage because a he
has a bunch of nuclear weapons. B. He currently holds
some territory that used to be Ukraines. That gives him leverage.
He holds it. Ukraine can't seem to get him out
of it. That gives him leverage. The United States of
America has the most leverage by a mile, because we've
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funded the entire thing. We can continue funding, and we
can end it. We have all the leverage in the world.
Ukraine like it or not. Maybe you've got yourself wrapped
in a Ukrainian blanky right now and that's fine. No,
not the dogging on you at all. Ukraine has no
leverage at all, none. They don't have the military to
repel Russia, they don't have the funds to keep things going.
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They don't have any leverage at all. Zelensky has been
forced for three years to come grovel at the feet
of American politicians in order to keep the thing going.
The gravy train has to stop. The war must end.
I believe it will in the end. But again, if
Europe and Ukraine want to go, have a good time,
enjoy it. Let me know how the Russian winner works
(34:03):
out for you. Hey, I am Jesse. Let's do some emails.
I enjoyed the show. Jesse mentioned on the air that
we had wargamed Russia. I'm not questioning his accuracy. I
would just like to know the source. Keep up the
good work. Well, we have wargamed Russia, but that's not
what I said. We have wargamed China. And this was
when I was going off on a rant about American
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manufacturing and logistics. And oh, by the way, speaking of logistics,
halfway through next hour, we have one of these shipping
logistics guys who's gonna come on and nerd out on
some of that stuff. So just stay with me there.
But back to what I was saying, the war with China,
if there is a coming war with China, it will
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be really it'll be fought over there because that's where
China is trying. They're trying to lock down their control
of that area. It's not only time on, it's the Philippines.
I smoke up this morning, there was another Chinese naval
vessel harassing people. China is trying to lock in their
sphere of influence. So if we were to actually get
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into a spicy conflict with China, god forbid, because it
would be horrible. It would have to be fought over there.
They're not coming here, they don't need to come here.
They already own the American media and Hollywood and half
our politicians. But setting that aside, it would have to
be fought over there. And modern wars, if you're to
believe the experts people I trust, actually real experts, not
(35:30):
the more on you see on television. If you're to
believe real experts, modern wars, they're going to be Missile wars.
Kind of scary to think about, isn't it, Because it
means you can be touched from anywhere, especially now that
China has hypersonic missiles, Russia has hypersonic missiles. We are
rapidly developed and have probably already developed hypersonic missiles. That
(35:55):
means they can hit all of you wherever you're sitting
right now listening to the sound of my Saudi Arabia, Texas, Germany.
I don't care where it is. You can have a
missile land in your lap too. It's scary. It puts
all of us on the battlefield and missiles. A missile war,
it makes traditional ways of thinking, it can make them obsolete.
(36:20):
We were just talking World War Two at the beginning
of this hour. One of the things I love the
most that fills me with pride about World War Two
is sorry, my fellow Marine Corps brothers, the United States
Navy and World War Two. I talk about them lovingly
all the time. It was just awesome, this massive, powerful
fleet projecting American power all over the world. Well, why
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would you pay five hundred billion dollars for an aircraft
carrier when one Chinese missile can send it to the bottom.
A missile war changes things back to what we were
discussing war games with China. It's not like we've only
fought one. We're trying to figure out how did it go.
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The problem is not our navy. The problem is not
our Air Force r Army. It would never be the
Marine Corps, of course, of separ five. The problem is logistics. Missiles.
We don't have enough, we don't make enough. Let's say
China invades Taiwan, or the Philippines or something like that,
(37:23):
and we decide we want to go tangle with them.
We run out of missiles in a week. If they
have plenty of missiles sweeping our navy off the seas
and we don't have missiles to counter their missiles, well
war over. I don't care how many aircraft carriers you have.
War Over. It's over. That is the problem. All right,
(37:45):
we're going to talk a little bit, but you know what,
let's make fun of democrats and then we'll discuss sending
Americans five thousand dollars trucks.
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