October 2, 2025 • 37 mins
They use all of your values against you without believing in any of it. North Korea vs Haiti. Brandon Weichert and the fallout from bombing Iran. Are we going back to help Israel take on Iran? The US’s war on the cartels in Venezuela.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday. We're gonna talk
about the Communists using our values against us. Here briefly,
I do want to get to this man Donnie story
out of New York City. Of course, ten minutes from now,
ten minutes from now, our final semi final matchup of
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the crappiest country in the world tournament that's gonna determine
the finals which will take place next week for all
the marbles or rice, depending on what kind of country
we're discussing. All that, and plus Brandon Wikert about a
half hour from now, apparently the war with Iran is
gonna fire up again and Venezuela we might be dropping
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bombs on them soon. This is wild anyway, All that
is coming up in this hour on The Jesse Kelly Show.
So obviously I don't really care about what Sonny Houston
has to say about anything. So it's not about the viewer,
Sonny host And what is important is that you and
I understand the tactics the enemy uses against us. We
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have to understand what they're doing and why they're doing it,
so we can stop it. Right, she's talking about pro
life and gun owners, and.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Here she is, so you're against the death penalty in
all cases, because yes, people really design.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'm against the death penalty in all cases. Well, I
think in all cases. And that's why I find there
is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,
but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are
pro life, but they have their AR fifteens and their
cabinet and they are pro life, but they don't mind
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immigrant family being chorn from each other. They are pro life,
but they don't care about little children's subsidies being taken
away from them.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
That is not pro life.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That is not pro life. Your pro life and you
have an AR fifteen, you're not pro life. It is
a tactic. We've talked about a lot. We continue to
grow and gain more stations and listeners. So we're going
to have that discussion again briefly. Right now. Communists do
not share your value system. In fact, they don't share
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a value system that you would even recognize as human.
They're completely different. What motivates them is completely different. Let's
set that aside. But what it does do, what their
value system does do is it grants them permission to
use yours against you. And the reason I will continue
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harping on this is the truth is this has been
probably the most effective tactic used by the communists on
the American right. They've been insanely successful using our values
against us for decades and decades and decades. It's really
the main reason why they were able to penetrate so
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deeply into all of our institutions. We wanted to be nice,
we wanted to be kind, we wanted to be tolerant.
Whenever they would run up against some form of resistance,
they would appeal to your humanity. I thought you loved freedom.
I thought you loved Jesus. Don't you believe what it
says in the Bible? Aren't you going to be kind?
Shouldn't you be turning the other cheek? And we, not
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realizing what was happening, not realizing why they were saying
what they were saying, constantly backed off, Well, you know
what you are right, Well, I do want to be
not nice. That Jesus would want me to be nice,
that is what he said. So I mean, okay, you
can all right, you can have the cup Scouts all right,
you know what with the actually you can be one
of the pastors in our church. Well, you know what, yet,
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you can be my son's teacher. I don't want to
be thought of of intolerant. After all, she's just a
tranny with pink hair. I don't want to look bad.
I don't want to look mean. And the second you
try to speak up, they whip out your Bible right
out of your pocket. Something they have nothing for, disdain,
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nothing but disdain for by the way, nothing but disdain
for you and your beliefs. But they will whip your
Bible out in a heartbeat, and they'll hold it up
in your face, and they'll say, you want to own
a gun? I want to take your guns away. I
thought you said you were pro life. The Bible talks
about that. I guess you're not. Since you want to
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own a gun. Do you want to And by the way,
what I'm about to say still infects churches across this
country coast to coast. Do you want to deport people
who came here illegally or stay here illegally? Do you
think Jesus would want that? That's not what Jesus would want. Now,
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this is not a person who cares about Jesus, believes
in Jesus, reads the Old Testament or the New Testament.
Nothing but disdain for you and your beliefs. But they
understand very well what your beliefs are, and they will
whip them out and beat you over the face with
them the second their revolution runs up against trouble. I
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didn't play it for you so you could hear this
brain dead idiot on the view. She is a moron
who has been trained in communist tactics for years and
years and years, in years and years. This is how
they've been trained. This is what they do. I'm going
to play it again. Write it in stone on your heart,
and understand every time they pull out your values, it
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is to weaken your resistance to their revolution. This is
a tactic they're trained an.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You're against the death penalty in all cases because yes,
people really desire.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I'm against the death penalty in all cases, so I
think in all cases. And that's why I find there
was a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life positive.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Real quick, I'll let her go in a moment. What
should just do? I've noticed there's a hypocrisy if if
if if I sat down with you. Let's say we're
sitting down at Red Lobster, and we got some mozzarella sticks,
and we got some Cajun shrimp alfredo and some shrimp scampy,
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and we're dipping our cheddar Bay biscuits in the shrimp
scampy butter as we do, just having a conversation, you
and me, and I very frankly told you that I
thought you were a hypocrite. I thought you were being
a hypocrite about something that would hurt your feelings, wouldn't it?
That would that would you wouldn't like that? You would
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want to hear an explanation. And frankly, even if you
got mad at me, you would probably examine yourself. Oh
my gosh, am I being a hypocrite. Notice their hypocrisy
never bothers them. In fact, they try to be hypocrites,
but they understand hypocrisy is something you don't want to embrace.
Being a hypocrite is not something you ever want to
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be thought of. And so they understand again a tactic
that is a great way to weaken your defenses to
the revolution.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You're against the death penalty in all cases because people
really design.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I'm against the death penalty in all cases, well, I
think in all cases. And that's why I find there
is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,
but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are
pro life, but they have their ar fifteens and their cabinet.
They are pro life, but they don't mind immigrant families
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being torn from each other. They are pro life, but
they don't care about little children's subsidies being taken away
from them.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That is not pro life.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You call yourself a Christian. If you were a Christian,
you'd let me have my revolution. If you were a Christian,
you wouldn't believe in killing murders. If you were really
a Christian, you would give up your ability to defend
yourself from me. That way, I could send hordes of
animals to your home whenever you made me angry. If
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you were a Christian, you would give those guns up.
Aren't you a Christian? If you were a Christian, you
would allow me to import entire prison gangs from foreign
countries who will rape and murder your daughter. If you
were a real Christian and not a hypocrite, you'd let me.
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Aren't you a real Christian? They do it all the time.
They have been trained in it. They have been thoroughly
programmed in it. And the reason I will warn about
this until the day they finally fire me and take
me off the air is because it works. I've watched
it work endlessly on the right, especially on the church.
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I'm not going to bore you again with the story
of losing my church after George Floyd died, not because
my pastors and he was an evil man. He's not
my pastor anymore. He's a very good man, I believe, humble,
kind human being, not ready to deal with the Communist menace.
They pulled him into some commie black coalition where they
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scolded him for the color of his skin. He went
to a what White People Need to Know conference, and
the next Sunday stood up in front of the church
and talked about all of our white privilege. An evil man, no,
a man who simply did not understand the tactics of
the devil and did not understand he was dealing with evil.
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He did not understand he was dealing with trained subversives,
trained infiltrators, and he stood no chance stand up to
these people. Never ever, ever, let the Communists use your
values against you. All right, all right, North Korea is
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about to go to war with Haiti. No, not in
real life, although that'd be entertaining. We're just talking about
in our crappiest country in the world tournament, which continues next.
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on a wonderful, fantastic Thursday memory. If you miss any
part of the show, you can download the whole thing
on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Now there's only one more semi
final matchup in our crappiest country in the world tournament.
This is for the right, the right to go fight
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for your honor as being the worst play on Earth.
The championship will take place. What is it Monday or Tuesday?
Chris Tuesday? Next Tuesday is the championship. Somalia already fought valiantly.
They have turned their country into a war torn hell
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hole where women are treated like garbage, and that earned
them the right to fight for a championship. Now it's
up to North Korea. It's up to Haiti. Now it's
a question. Look, you're both talented, you're both just awful.
In every possible way, horrible, putrid places, garbage cultures. You
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are both wretched. So now it's just about effort. Now
it's about will who wants it more? North Korea or Haiti.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
It's the twenty twenty five crappiest country in the world.
Competition Tonight's matchups between and Haiti brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (12:12):
So let's do a brief version, a brief recap of
how are things over there in North Korea. They have
concentration camps plural that are as bad as anything that
happened in World War Two. North Korea has a real
specialty when it comes to torture. Oftentimes it's water torture.
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Oh and I should note when you're being tortured, North
Korea will arrest your entire family oftentimes and do it
to everybody, so it's something the whole family gets to
enjoy as they force water down your throat and then
step on your stomach. They jam needles underneath your fingernails,
and all the way to just hanging you upside down
and then beating you senseless. You have no rights, no
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freedom of speech. There is a strict class system where
you can't advance beyond the lower classes at all. They're slavery.
Did you think we were past that time? The North
Korean government. Because people have no rights and they have
no guns, they will just show up at your house
and yank you out and turn you into an uncompensated worker,
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which is, you know, slang for slavery in one of
their minds or camps or somewhere else. You don't have
to have done anything wrong whatsoever to get conscripted as
a slave. They do this to their own people. Not
a great place, but they're up against the juggernaut. Smaller
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than North Korea, no question. They don't have the concentration camps.
But Haites. Look, this is like a boxing matchup North Korea.
They're more of a power puncher. Haiti lighter on their feet,
lighter on their feet. The boxing is all about matchups.
Let's meet the other contender.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
On the US State Apartment's advice section for if you're
traveling to Haiti, I kid you not, there is advice
on how you need to choose a family member with
whom the kidnappers can negotiate your ransom price.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So the bad news is you.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Might be murdered, raped, eaten, and chopped up with a
machete in Haiti.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
If you visit there. But the good news is that
sister you hate you can force her to cough up
some ransom money and cost her a fortune. Haiti's terrible. Now,
I didn't know who you were going to choose, because remember,
you've been able to vote this whole time. I believe
I've only overruled you one time, right, Chris, one time,
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So I don't want to hear any more whining about
how I'm a dictator who doesn't obey the will of
the people. I do that unless you're dumb. But for
the most part, what Chris, and be a nice I
let you have your say. I kind of assumed North
Korea was going to in, not because Haiti is anything
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but one of the most cursed lands on the planet.
But North Korea does have like real concentration camps, real ones.
They still have slavery. It's unbelievably bad. But the people
have spoken, and they've spoken out in such a way
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I can't even I can't even overrule this. Haiti destroyed
North Korea in the semi finals and didn't Somalia just
destroy India to Chris, so it looks well, it doesn't
look like it is. Haiti won this round and they
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won it easily, and credit to them. And as we've
discussed before, when you have a team in any sport
and it finally gets to the playoffs, whatever that may
be NFL playoffs or call football playoffs or Major League
Baseball playoffs, if there's a team that's been dominating everyone
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they face, that oftentimes is a team that's going to
win at all. But how in the world do you
handicap it when you have two different teams who have
dominated all comers. Somalia is so bad they wrecked everybody.
There's poop on the streets in India, and Somalia still
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just slaughtered them as if it was an unborn child. Haiti,
they eat people. I don't know how we handle this.
I don't know who you're going to choose. But now
it's up to you to vote Haiti versus Somalia next week.
Go vote. Let your voice be heard. Now before you
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stuff next.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Fighting for your freedom every day The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday,
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for tomorrow Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. But we
don't have time for that right now, because Brandon wikerd
is going to talk to us about bombs dropping on Iran,
and then we're gonna go to Venezuela and the world
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is coming to an end. I'm kidding, it's not coming
to an end. But our national security guy, Brandon Weikert,
author of so many great books, joins us. Now, okay, Brandon,
we're gonna set Venezuela aside for just a few moments
and let's talk about Iran. It was my understanding that
we flew around the world and dropped some bombs and
took out their nuclear facilities, and now it's been peace
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in the Middle East. Is that not the case.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
No, that's not the case. No, this thanks for having me,
by the way. This is this that was merely round one.
Round two is at hand, and it's looking like we've
moved a dozen casey one thirty thirty five Strato tankers
into Aludid Air Base in Qatar. It looks like we've
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got the USS Gerald R Ford heading to the med
Uh that's gonna bring with it. It's air wing of
F thirty fives and FA eighteens as well as the
E two D Hawkeye, and I think that's those are
the big ones out of there. So basically, we're we
are ramping up for what looks to me like an
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imminent another round of hostilities. I am skeptical, however, that
the US is going to necessarily take part directly. It
looks to me like we're emphasizing for now at least
a support role. But I do believe Israel is getting
ready to hit hard into Iran.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Okay, let's pause for a moment before we get to Israel,
because we're gonna nerd out on military details that people
do not know the way you know them. So please
explain tankers, F thirty fives hawk guys, what are these things?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Well, so the F thirty fives, and I believe it's
I think it's the F thirty five C, which is
the naval variant, which is the one that's designed to
take off and land on carriers. There are three variants.
The Marine Corps has a variant which I think is
the most interesting one. It basically lands and takes off
like a helicopter. That's the F thirty five B. And
then the Air Force has the F thirty five A,
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which is the most boring one. And then so those
are warplanes. Those are traditional. Everybody kind of figure out
what those are. They're gonna they fly in and they
bomb and they kill the enemy. The FA eighteen super Hornet,
same thing. It's a fourth generation though, as opposed to
a fifth generation plane, which the F thirty five is.
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But the interesting thing, and I'm a logistics guy by nature,
so the interesting thing is all of the movement of
the big FA sorry, big k C one thirty five
strato tankers. Those are the things. They're called strategic enablers.
The Air Force refers to the MAS and as that
name suggests, it basically allows or enables either our military
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or a friendly military to conduct really complex, long range
air strikes against distant targets. And as you know, the
distance from Israeli airspace to Iranian airspace is pretty big,
so they need to refuel at some point. In the
first round of fight with is Iran in June, they
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relied Israel did on they This was not advertised, but
a picket of KSE one thirty five flew out of
Aludd in the middle of the night on that first
night and topped off the Israeli bombers and allowed for
the Israelis to continue continuously strike at Iran. So something
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similar is going to happen with the case one thirty five.
I mentioned the E two D Hawkeye, which is a
surveillance plane that it's a propeller twin engine plane. It
flies off of the aircraft carrier. There's also on the
carrier there would be what is it the Growler, which
is it's the same airframe as an Fa eighteen, but
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it basically does electronic warfare, so it basically tries to
switch off enemy air defenses. That allows for gaps to form,
for friendly bombers and warplanes to fly in with a
reduced chance of getting shot out of the sky. I
don't know if we would deploy the Growlers, because that
would be more direct, I think than what Trump wants.
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But we very well made to support the Israelis. But
definitely those those strato tankers, the mid air refuelers, those
are a big deal. And also I suspect there's probably
gonna be some a Wax which are basically you know,
command and control planes. They'll be orbiting the area as well,
providing assistance to the Israelis on top of whatever the
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Israelis have deployed. But what it looks like to me
so far, Jesse, is this is going to be a
very big supporting role We're going to be providing. But
That could be problematic because I don't know if the
Israelis have the capacity to fully do really what they
want to do on their own. Ultimately, last time we
had to get involved with the B two s. I
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don't know if Trump wants to do that again. But
I don't know if the Israelis actually have the capacity
to do what they're saying they want to do, which
it looks like they want to do decapitation strikes against
the regime in Iran.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, so I'm glad you brought that up, because that's
exactly where we're going next. Of course, talking to Brandon Weiker,
national security guy, what does that mean? What does Israel want?
How would Israel even go about doing it? What are
decapitation strikes? Is this basically assassinating people with fighter jets?
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Well so on paper, yes, but there's more to it.
It sounds to me like Massad Israel's intelligence has penetrated
pretty deep within the Iranian regime. They have people on
the inside. I was told during the June War somebody
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that I rely on who's Israeli. They told me the
night of the attack that there were literally Massad agents
in the bunkers with the Iranian leaders. So yeah, so,
And people don't realize how the reason those Israeli air
strikes in the opening days of that war were so
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effective was because they literally had people on the ground
in Iran hiding out basically ranging the targets for the
Israeli warplanes. I doubt the Israeli air campaign would have
been as effective as it was had it not been
for that really effectiveration of Iranian society and their government
and military by Iranian I'm sorry, Israeli spies. And in
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many cases the Israeli spies were women who were penetrating
the regime in more ways than one. But that that
is one of the things the Israelis are very good at,
is deploying their their their their people into these secretive
positions where they can basically get get really good targeting.
And that's at play here. Again. I think that the
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ultimate goal, and I think that Yahoo has even said
this at one point in the last few months, the
ultimate goal, the perfect vision, is to one way or
the other get rid of the regime in Iran. And
we saw them try that initially in the June war,
where they were killing a lot of Iranian generals. They
killed some. I think they killed like the number two
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in Iran, and we know they were targeting the Iranian
Ayatola Kramani, which is why they literally the Iranians had
to literally move him to a bunker that was far
removed from Iran's kind of major cities, and they basically
did not allow any kind of electronic device into that bunker,
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which meant that the Ayatola was giving orders by hand
by paper and they were physically driving those orders to
the various commands and then transmitting them because they were
so paranoid that the Israelis were going to kill their
grand leader.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah. I gotta tell you, if all my general staff
was getting wiped out too, I'd probably start handing out
love notes myself. Okay, Brandon, do you have a few
more minutes for us after the break, because I didn't
even get to Venezuela. This Iran Israel stuff is so fascinating,
but I want to talk Venezuela with you if you
have a few Is that okay?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I do, yes, absolutely, Okay, So we're going to come
back and we're going to talk to Brandon Wikert about
Venezuela because Venezuela apparently can detect our stealth stuff. How
stealthy is stealth stuff. We're gonna have a little conversation
next Trump certainly sounds like he's ramping up this war
on the cartels before we come back with more Brandon Wikert,
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On a fantastic Thursdays. We cruise into the weekend. But
let's come back to Brandon Wiker speaking with our national
security guy, Brandon Wikert. You really should be hoovering up
his books. Winning Space might be one of my favorites.
But we're not talking about space. We're about to talk
about Venezuela. What's happening in Venezuela. Who's helping who? What
are we doing? Brand then take it away.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Well, I think that we are well, I know we
are getting ready to bomb them. I was told that
recently by somebody that I rely on for a lot
of information about US military information. It looks like in
the next two to three weeks there's going to be
something going on with US bombing of quote unquote drug
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related targets in Venezuela. But I would just remind your
audience that when Trump says we're going after the drug
lords and the drug production facilities, Venezuela is basically running
the world's largest state owned drug cartel, which means if
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we're targeting the leadership of the Cartel of the Suns,
which is the big cartel in Venezuela, technically we're going
to be targeting Maduro, the leader of Venezuela himself, because
he's basically the leader of this cartel. So that is
a little bit of an interesting sleight of hand that
Trump uses for basically saying we're doing regime change in Venezuela.
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We've moved a flotilla off the coast. We've got about
about ten I think F thirty fives. These are the
Marine Corps variants, the ones that can take off and
land like helicopters, the F thirty five B. And it
looks like we're getting ready to do something. And I
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think the reason that Trump is so gung ho about
taking out Maduro is and I don't know if you
know this is real or not. I'm just reporting what
I've heard from people close to Trump. Is that the
president really believes that there was an attempt by Maduro
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in twenty twenty to basically help steal the election against him.
And if that is the case, if Trump really believes this,
the Venezuelan dictator is he's not getting out of this alive.
There's no way that Trump's going to let him get away,
you know, and negotiate his way out of this. Because
a lot of people have been asking me, like, why
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is Trump so committed to Venezuela, And it does seem
a bit extreme because Venezuela you would not think is
like the number one threat to us, but Trump is
acting like it is. And I think it's because he
thinks Maduro had a hand in the you know, twenty
twenty election steal. But that is why you're seeing this
build up, and Trump is going to go in I
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think in the next two to three weeks with airstrikes.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Okay, So I guess I have to ask the question
because I'm unaware, and I mean, maybe it's true. What
does Trump think Maduro did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Well, it has to do with this firm that was
started by a bunch of Venezuelan expatriots called Smartmattic and
they basically it's a software company that does all of
the electronic voting machines. They do a lot around the world,
much just here in the United States. And in fact
that one of the three of the corporate leaders for
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that company are up on charges in the Philippines for
a bribering bribing election officials in the Philippines. But they
were if you remember, in twenty twenty, they were accused
of having by Trump of having to had a hand
and stealing the election. But ultimately, whether it's true or not,
the point is Trump believes that. And if Trump is
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linking what happened in twenty twenty him losing to what's
going on in Venezuela right now, anybody helping for a
negotiated settlement, you're not going to get it because Trump
has got the bit between his teeth and he's like
a rottweiler. He's not going to let it go until
he tastes blood. And that's why you have this build
up there. And that's why I think the person who
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told me we're probably going to start bombing in two
to three weeks is probably correct because he really thinks
that Maduro is like a really and Modua is he's
not a great guy, you know, but he's not interested
in negotiating with Maduro.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, So that obviously it leads us to is this
going to be a cake walk for us? Because I
would argue that most Americans, myself included, I don't claim
to be an expert, think about that regime and we think,
surely we're not going to lose anyone. Frankly, we're not
even really in danger of losing anyone. Certainly if we're
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just dropping some bombs and doing flying some sorties. Am
I wrong?
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Well, on the face of it, you're not. And initially,
you know, when we started building up, I was sort
of laughing, like this is going to be like Grenada
or like Panama in the eighties. Remember, you know, three
day war in and out. You know, we're we're good
to go. But then I start seeing these reports of
the drone capabilities that Russia and Iran for the last
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several years had been helping Venezuela develop, and we start
hearing about the Padrino, the head of the Venezuelan military
this morning gave a press conference in which he claimed
they detected three or four of these Marine Corps F
thirty five b's in their airspace. So that starts making
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me question are the Venezuelans being given training and capabilities
by the Russians, whom they have a military alliance with.
The Russians have really proven themselves effective at using really
innovative techniques on their radars for detecting American stealth planes.
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The Chinese have also developed similar capabilities. It's not full proof. Still,
we have a lot of advantages with stealth, but the
Russians in particular have been really developing these innovative ways
of figuring out how to pinpoint American stealth planes. And
they're pretty cheap these method It's not like they're reinventing
new technology. They're using existing detection technology, but they're doing
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it in a really unique way. They could be showing
the Venezuelans how to do that. I know they showed
the Iranians how to do that. So this is a
concern obviously, because the F thirty five is our big
primary warplane that we're going to be sending against Venezuela.
And while I do think the Venezuelan military is not impressive,
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they do have certain unconventional capabilities that could make them
a bit harder to kill than we think. Furthermore, it's
a huge country, and you know the last thing we
want to do is get involved in some kind of
a jungle war. You know this is not really being
considered I think by the Pentagon as anything other than
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a cake walk. But we might be surprised if we're
not careful.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
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Go pick up his books. It's the best, Brandon, Thank you,
my man. I appreciate you. I nerd out on that stuff, Chris,
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it on his food. I understand now that I gave
all the dogs I ever have dead food their whole lives,
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This is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday. We're gonna talk
about the Communists using our values against us. Here briefly,
I do want to get to this man Donnie story
out of New York City. Of course, ten minutes from now,
ten minutes from now, our final semi final matchup of
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the crappiest country in the world tournament that's gonna determine
the finals which will take place next week for all
the marbles or rice, depending on what kind of country
we're discussing. All that, and plus Brandon Wikert about a
half hour from now, apparently the war with Iran is
gonna fire up again and Venezuela we might be dropping
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bombs on them soon. This is wild anyway, All that
is coming up in this hour on The Jesse Kelly Show.
So obviously I don't really care about what Sonny Houston
has to say about anything. So it's not about the viewer,
Sonny host And what is important is that you and
I understand the tactics the enemy uses against us. We
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have to understand what they're doing and why they're doing it,
so we can stop it. Right, she's talking about pro
life and gun owners, and.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Here she is, so you're against the death penalty in
all cases, because yes, people really design.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'm against the death penalty in all cases. Well, I
think in all cases. And that's why I find there
is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,
but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are
pro life, but they have their AR fifteens and their
cabinet and they are pro life, but they don't mind
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immigrant family being chorn from each other. They are pro life,
but they don't care about little children's subsidies being taken
away from them.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
That is not pro life.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That is not pro life. Your pro life and you
have an AR fifteen, you're not pro life. It is
a tactic. We've talked about a lot. We continue to
grow and gain more stations and listeners. So we're going
to have that discussion again briefly. Right now. Communists do
not share your value system. In fact, they don't share
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a value system that you would even recognize as human.
They're completely different. What motivates them is completely different. Let's
set that aside. But what it does do, what their
value system does do is it grants them permission to
use yours against you. And the reason I will continue
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harping on this is the truth is this has been
probably the most effective tactic used by the communists on
the American right. They've been insanely successful using our values
against us for decades and decades and decades. It's really
the main reason why they were able to penetrate so
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deeply into all of our institutions. We wanted to be nice,
we wanted to be kind, we wanted to be tolerant.
Whenever they would run up against some form of resistance,
they would appeal to your humanity. I thought you loved freedom.
I thought you loved Jesus. Don't you believe what it
says in the Bible? Aren't you going to be kind?
Shouldn't you be turning the other cheek? And we, not
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realizing what was happening, not realizing why they were saying
what they were saying, constantly backed off, Well, you know
what you are right, Well, I do want to be
not nice. That Jesus would want me to be nice,
that is what he said. So I mean, okay, you
can all right, you can have the cup Scouts all right,
you know what with the actually you can be one
of the pastors in our church. Well, you know what, yet,
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you can be my son's teacher. I don't want to
be thought of of intolerant. After all, she's just a
tranny with pink hair. I don't want to look bad.
I don't want to look mean. And the second you
try to speak up, they whip out your Bible right
out of your pocket. Something they have nothing for, disdain,
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nothing but disdain for by the way, nothing but disdain
for you and your beliefs. But they will whip your
Bible out in a heartbeat, and they'll hold it up
in your face, and they'll say, you want to own
a gun? I want to take your guns away. I
thought you said you were pro life. The Bible talks
about that. I guess you're not. Since you want to
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own a gun. Do you want to And by the way,
what I'm about to say still infects churches across this
country coast to coast. Do you want to deport people
who came here illegally or stay here illegally? Do you
think Jesus would want that? That's not what Jesus would want. Now,
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this is not a person who cares about Jesus, believes
in Jesus, reads the Old Testament or the New Testament.
Nothing but disdain for you and your beliefs. But they
understand very well what your beliefs are, and they will
whip them out and beat you over the face with
them the second their revolution runs up against trouble. I
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didn't play it for you so you could hear this
brain dead idiot on the view. She is a moron
who has been trained in communist tactics for years and
years and years, in years and years. This is how
they've been trained. This is what they do. I'm going
to play it again. Write it in stone on your heart,
and understand every time they pull out your values, it
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is to weaken your resistance to their revolution. This is
a tactic they're trained an.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You're against the death penalty in all cases because yes,
people really desire.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I'm against the death penalty in all cases, so I
think in all cases. And that's why I find there
was a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life positive.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Real quick, I'll let her go in a moment. What
should just do? I've noticed there's a hypocrisy if if
if if I sat down with you. Let's say we're
sitting down at Red Lobster, and we got some mozzarella sticks,
and we got some Cajun shrimp alfredo and some shrimp scampy,
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and we're dipping our cheddar Bay biscuits in the shrimp
scampy butter as we do, just having a conversation, you
and me, and I very frankly told you that I
thought you were a hypocrite. I thought you were being
a hypocrite about something that would hurt your feelings, wouldn't it?
That would that would you wouldn't like that? You would
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want to hear an explanation. And frankly, even if you
got mad at me, you would probably examine yourself. Oh
my gosh, am I being a hypocrite. Notice their hypocrisy
never bothers them. In fact, they try to be hypocrites,
but they understand hypocrisy is something you don't want to embrace.
Being a hypocrite is not something you ever want to
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be thought of. And so they understand again a tactic
that is a great way to weaken your defenses to
the revolution.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You're against the death penalty in all cases because people
really design.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I'm against the death penalty in all cases, well, I
think in all cases. And that's why I find there
is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,
but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are
pro life, but they have their ar fifteens and their cabinet.
They are pro life, but they don't mind immigrant families
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being torn from each other. They are pro life, but
they don't care about little children's subsidies being taken away
from them.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That is not pro life.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You call yourself a Christian. If you were a Christian,
you'd let me have my revolution. If you were a Christian,
you wouldn't believe in killing murders. If you were really
a Christian, you would give up your ability to defend
yourself from me. That way, I could send hordes of
animals to your home whenever you made me angry. If
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you were a Christian, you would give those guns up.
Aren't you a Christian? If you were a Christian, you
would allow me to import entire prison gangs from foreign
countries who will rape and murder your daughter. If you
were a real Christian and not a hypocrite, you'd let me.
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Aren't you a real Christian? They do it all the time.
They have been trained in it. They have been thoroughly
programmed in it. And the reason I will warn about
this until the day they finally fire me and take
me off the air is because it works. I've watched
it work endlessly on the right, especially on the church.
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I'm not going to bore you again with the story
of losing my church after George Floyd died, not because
my pastors and he was an evil man. He's not
my pastor anymore. He's a very good man, I believe, humble,
kind human being, not ready to deal with the Communist menace.
They pulled him into some commie black coalition where they
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scolded him for the color of his skin. He went
to a what White People Need to Know conference, and
the next Sunday stood up in front of the church
and talked about all of our white privilege. An evil man, no,
a man who simply did not understand the tactics of
the devil and did not understand he was dealing with evil.
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He did not understand he was dealing with trained subversives,
trained infiltrators, and he stood no chance stand up to
these people. Never ever, ever, let the Communists use your
values against you. All right, all right, North Korea is
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about to go to war with Haiti. No, not in
real life, although that'd be entertaining. We're just talking about
in our crappiest country in the world tournament, which continues next.
Feeling a little stocky, follow like and subscribe on social
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on a wonderful, fantastic Thursday memory. If you miss any
part of the show, you can download the whole thing
on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Now there's only one more semi
final matchup in our crappiest country in the world tournament.
This is for the right, the right to go fight
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for your honor as being the worst play on Earth.
The championship will take place. What is it Monday or Tuesday?
Chris Tuesday? Next Tuesday is the championship. Somalia already fought valiantly.
They have turned their country into a war torn hell
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hole where women are treated like garbage, and that earned
them the right to fight for a championship. Now it's
up to North Korea. It's up to Haiti. Now it's
a question. Look, you're both talented, you're both just awful.
In every possible way, horrible, putrid places, garbage cultures. You
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are both wretched. So now it's just about effort. Now
it's about will who wants it more? North Korea or Haiti.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
It's the twenty twenty five crappiest country in the world.
Competition Tonight's matchups between and Haiti brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (12:12):
So let's do a brief version, a brief recap of
how are things over there in North Korea. They have
concentration camps plural that are as bad as anything that
happened in World War Two. North Korea has a real
specialty when it comes to torture. Oftentimes it's water torture.
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Oh and I should note when you're being tortured, North
Korea will arrest your entire family oftentimes and do it
to everybody, so it's something the whole family gets to
enjoy as they force water down your throat and then
step on your stomach. They jam needles underneath your fingernails,
and all the way to just hanging you upside down
and then beating you senseless. You have no rights, no
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freedom of speech. There is a strict class system where
you can't advance beyond the lower classes at all. They're slavery.
Did you think we were past that time? The North
Korean government. Because people have no rights and they have
no guns, they will just show up at your house
and yank you out and turn you into an uncompensated worker,
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which is, you know, slang for slavery in one of
their minds or camps or somewhere else. You don't have
to have done anything wrong whatsoever to get conscripted as
a slave. They do this to their own people. Not
a great place, but they're up against the juggernaut. Smaller
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than North Korea, no question. They don't have the concentration camps.
But Haites. Look, this is like a boxing matchup North Korea.
They're more of a power puncher. Haiti lighter on their feet,
lighter on their feet. The boxing is all about matchups.
Let's meet the other contender.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
On the US State Apartment's advice section for if you're
traveling to Haiti, I kid you not, there is advice
on how you need to choose a family member with
whom the kidnappers can negotiate your ransom price.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So the bad news is you.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Might be murdered, raped, eaten, and chopped up with a
machete in Haiti.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
If you visit there. But the good news is that
sister you hate you can force her to cough up
some ransom money and cost her a fortune. Haiti's terrible. Now,
I didn't know who you were going to choose, because remember,
you've been able to vote this whole time. I believe
I've only overruled you one time, right, Chris, one time,
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So I don't want to hear any more whining about
how I'm a dictator who doesn't obey the will of
the people. I do that unless you're dumb. But for
the most part, what Chris, and be a nice I
let you have your say. I kind of assumed North
Korea was going to in, not because Haiti is anything
(15:02):
but one of the most cursed lands on the planet.
But North Korea does have like real concentration camps, real ones.
They still have slavery. It's unbelievably bad. But the people
have spoken, and they've spoken out in such a way
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I can't even I can't even overrule this. Haiti destroyed
North Korea in the semi finals and didn't Somalia just
destroy India to Chris, so it looks well, it doesn't
look like it is. Haiti won this round and they
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won it easily, and credit to them. And as we've
discussed before, when you have a team in any sport
and it finally gets to the playoffs, whatever that may
be NFL playoffs or call football playoffs or Major League
Baseball playoffs, if there's a team that's been dominating everyone
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they face, that oftentimes is a team that's going to
win at all. But how in the world do you
handicap it when you have two different teams who have
dominated all comers. Somalia is so bad they wrecked everybody.
There's poop on the streets in India, and Somalia still
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just slaughtered them as if it was an unborn child. Haiti,
they eat people. I don't know how we handle this.
I don't know who you're going to choose. But now
it's up to you to vote Haiti versus Somalia next week.
Go vote. Let your voice be heard. Now before you
do that, go get wise at Hillsteal College. Go learn
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wrong with that. Have fun, Go play football in the backyard,
go to the pool, watch a movie, play cards, do
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stuff next.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Fighting for your freedom every day The Jesse Kelly Show.
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday,
reminding you to get your ask doctor Jesse questions in
for tomorrow Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. But we
don't have time for that right now, because Brandon wikerd
is going to talk to us about bombs dropping on Iran,
and then we're gonna go to Venezuela and the world
(18:22):
is coming to an end. I'm kidding, it's not coming
to an end. But our national security guy, Brandon Weikert,
author of so many great books, joins us. Now, okay, Brandon,
we're gonna set Venezuela aside for just a few moments
and let's talk about Iran. It was my understanding that
we flew around the world and dropped some bombs and
took out their nuclear facilities, and now it's been peace
(18:43):
in the Middle East. Is that not the case.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
No, that's not the case. No, this thanks for having me,
by the way. This is this that was merely round one.
Round two is at hand, and it's looking like we've
moved a dozen casey one thirty thirty five Strato tankers
into Aludid Air Base in Qatar. It looks like we've
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got the USS Gerald R Ford heading to the med
Uh that's gonna bring with it. It's air wing of
F thirty fives and FA eighteens as well as the
E two D Hawkeye, and I think that's those are
the big ones out of there. So basically, we're we
are ramping up for what looks to me like an
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imminent another round of hostilities. I am skeptical, however, that
the US is going to necessarily take part directly. It
looks to me like we're emphasizing for now at least
a support role. But I do believe Israel is getting
ready to hit hard into Iran.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Okay, let's pause for a moment before we get to Israel,
because we're gonna nerd out on military details that people
do not know the way you know them. So please
explain tankers, F thirty fives hawk guys, what are these things?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Well, so the F thirty fives, and I believe it's
I think it's the F thirty five C, which is
the naval variant, which is the one that's designed to
take off and land on carriers. There are three variants.
The Marine Corps has a variant which I think is
the most interesting one. It basically lands and takes off
like a helicopter. That's the F thirty five B. And
then the Air Force has the F thirty five A,
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which is the most boring one. And then so those
are warplanes. Those are traditional. Everybody kind of figure out
what those are. They're gonna they fly in and they
bomb and they kill the enemy. The FA eighteen super Hornet,
same thing. It's a fourth generation though, as opposed to
a fifth generation plane, which the F thirty five is.
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But the interesting thing, and I'm a logistics guy by nature,
so the interesting thing is all of the movement of
the big FA sorry, big k C one thirty five
strato tankers. Those are the things. They're called strategic enablers.
The Air Force refers to the MAS and as that
name suggests, it basically allows or enables either our military
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or a friendly military to conduct really complex, long range
air strikes against distant targets. And as you know, the
distance from Israeli airspace to Iranian airspace is pretty big,
so they need to refuel at some point. In the
first round of fight with is Iran in June, they
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relied Israel did on they This was not advertised, but
a picket of KSE one thirty five flew out of
Aludd in the middle of the night on that first
night and topped off the Israeli bombers and allowed for
the Israelis to continue continuously strike at Iran. So something
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similar is going to happen with the case one thirty five.
I mentioned the E two D Hawkeye, which is a
surveillance plane that it's a propeller twin engine plane. It
flies off of the aircraft carrier. There's also on the
carrier there would be what is it the Growler, which
is it's the same airframe as an Fa eighteen, but
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it basically does electronic warfare, so it basically tries to
switch off enemy air defenses. That allows for gaps to form,
for friendly bombers and warplanes to fly in with a
reduced chance of getting shot out of the sky. I
don't know if we would deploy the Growlers, because that
would be more direct, I think than what Trump wants.
(22:45):
But we very well made to support the Israelis. But
definitely those those strato tankers, the mid air refuelers, those
are a big deal. And also I suspect there's probably
gonna be some a Wax which are basically you know,
command and control planes. They'll be orbiting the area as well,
providing assistance to the Israelis on top of whatever the
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Israelis have deployed. But what it looks like to me
so far, Jesse, is this is going to be a
very big supporting role We're going to be providing. But
That could be problematic because I don't know if the
Israelis have the capacity to fully do really what they
want to do on their own. Ultimately, last time we
had to get involved with the B two s. I
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don't know if Trump wants to do that again. But
I don't know if the Israelis actually have the capacity
to do what they're saying they want to do, which
it looks like they want to do decapitation strikes against
the regime in Iran.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, so I'm glad you brought that up, because that's
exactly where we're going next. Of course, talking to Brandon Weiker,
national security guy, what does that mean? What does Israel want?
How would Israel even go about doing it? What are
decapitation strikes? Is this basically assassinating people with fighter jets?
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Well so on paper, yes, but there's more to it.
It sounds to me like Massad Israel's intelligence has penetrated
pretty deep within the Iranian regime. They have people on
the inside. I was told during the June War somebody
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that I rely on who's Israeli. They told me the
night of the attack that there were literally Massad agents
in the bunkers with the Iranian leaders. So yeah, so,
And people don't realize how the reason those Israeli air
strikes in the opening days of that war were so
(24:44):
effective was because they literally had people on the ground
in Iran hiding out basically ranging the targets for the
Israeli warplanes. I doubt the Israeli air campaign would have
been as effective as it was had it not been
for that really effectiveration of Iranian society and their government
and military by Iranian I'm sorry, Israeli spies. And in
(25:08):
many cases the Israeli spies were women who were penetrating
the regime in more ways than one. But that that
is one of the things the Israelis are very good at,
is deploying their their their their people into these secretive
positions where they can basically get get really good targeting.
And that's at play here. Again. I think that the
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ultimate goal, and I think that Yahoo has even said
this at one point in the last few months, the
ultimate goal, the perfect vision, is to one way or
the other get rid of the regime in Iran. And
we saw them try that initially in the June war,
where they were killing a lot of Iranian generals. They
killed some. I think they killed like the number two
(25:52):
in Iran, and we know they were targeting the Iranian
Ayatola Kramani, which is why they literally the Iranians had
to literally move him to a bunker that was far
removed from Iran's kind of major cities, and they basically
did not allow any kind of electronic device into that bunker,
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which meant that the Ayatola was giving orders by hand
by paper and they were physically driving those orders to
the various commands and then transmitting them because they were
so paranoid that the Israelis were going to kill their
grand leader.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah. I gotta tell you, if all my general staff
was getting wiped out too, I'd probably start handing out
love notes myself. Okay, Brandon, do you have a few
more minutes for us after the break, because I didn't
even get to Venezuela. This Iran Israel stuff is so fascinating,
but I want to talk Venezuela with you if you
have a few Is that okay?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I do, yes, absolutely, Okay, So we're going to come
back and we're going to talk to Brandon Wikert about
Venezuela because Venezuela apparently can detect our stealth stuff. How
stealthy is stealth stuff. We're gonna have a little conversation
next Trump certainly sounds like he's ramping up this war
on the cartels before we come back with more Brandon Wikert,
(27:11):
I want to talk to you about saving a baby's life,
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The Jesse Kelly Show, It is the Jesse Kelly Show.
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On a fantastic Thursdays. We cruise into the weekend. But
let's come back to Brandon Wiker speaking with our national
security guy, Brandon Wikert. You really should be hoovering up
his books. Winning Space might be one of my favorites.
But we're not talking about space. We're about to talk
about Venezuela. What's happening in Venezuela. Who's helping who? What
are we doing? Brand then take it away.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Well, I think that we are well, I know we
are getting ready to bomb them. I was told that
recently by somebody that I rely on for a lot
of information about US military information. It looks like in
the next two to three weeks there's going to be
something going on with US bombing of quote unquote drug
(29:24):
related targets in Venezuela. But I would just remind your
audience that when Trump says we're going after the drug
lords and the drug production facilities, Venezuela is basically running
the world's largest state owned drug cartel, which means if
(29:45):
we're targeting the leadership of the Cartel of the Suns,
which is the big cartel in Venezuela, technically we're going
to be targeting Maduro, the leader of Venezuela himself, because
he's basically the leader of this cartel. So that is
a little bit of an interesting sleight of hand that
Trump uses for basically saying we're doing regime change in Venezuela.
(30:08):
We've moved a flotilla off the coast. We've got about
about ten I think F thirty fives. These are the
Marine Corps variants, the ones that can take off and
land like helicopters, the F thirty five B. And it
looks like we're getting ready to do something. And I
(30:29):
think the reason that Trump is so gung ho about
taking out Maduro is and I don't know if you
know this is real or not. I'm just reporting what
I've heard from people close to Trump. Is that the
president really believes that there was an attempt by Maduro
(30:49):
in twenty twenty to basically help steal the election against him.
And if that is the case, if Trump really believes this,
the Venezuelan dictator is he's not getting out of this alive.
There's no way that Trump's going to let him get away,
you know, and negotiate his way out of this. Because
a lot of people have been asking me, like, why
(31:10):
is Trump so committed to Venezuela, And it does seem
a bit extreme because Venezuela you would not think is
like the number one threat to us, but Trump is
acting like it is. And I think it's because he
thinks Maduro had a hand in the you know, twenty
twenty election steal. But that is why you're seeing this
build up, and Trump is going to go in I
(31:31):
think in the next two to three weeks with airstrikes.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Okay, So I guess I have to ask the question
because I'm unaware, and I mean, maybe it's true. What
does Trump think Maduro did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Well, it has to do with this firm that was
started by a bunch of Venezuelan expatriots called Smartmattic and
they basically it's a software company that does all of
the electronic voting machines. They do a lot around the world,
much just here in the United States. And in fact
that one of the three of the corporate leaders for
(32:08):
that company are up on charges in the Philippines for
a bribering bribing election officials in the Philippines. But they
were if you remember, in twenty twenty, they were accused
of having by Trump of having to had a hand
and stealing the election. But ultimately, whether it's true or not,
the point is Trump believes that. And if Trump is
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linking what happened in twenty twenty him losing to what's
going on in Venezuela right now, anybody helping for a
negotiated settlement, you're not going to get it because Trump
has got the bit between his teeth and he's like
a rottweiler. He's not going to let it go until
he tastes blood. And that's why you have this build
up there. And that's why I think the person who
(32:53):
told me we're probably going to start bombing in two
to three weeks is probably correct because he really thinks
that Maduro is like a really and Modua is he's
not a great guy, you know, but he's not interested
in negotiating with Maduro.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, So that obviously it leads us to is this
going to be a cake walk for us? Because I
would argue that most Americans, myself included, I don't claim
to be an expert, think about that regime and we think,
surely we're not going to lose anyone. Frankly, we're not
even really in danger of losing anyone. Certainly if we're
(33:27):
just dropping some bombs and doing flying some sorties. Am
I wrong?
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Well, on the face of it, you're not. And initially,
you know, when we started building up, I was sort
of laughing, like this is going to be like Grenada
or like Panama in the eighties. Remember, you know, three
day war in and out. You know, we're we're good
to go. But then I start seeing these reports of
the drone capabilities that Russia and Iran for the last
(33:57):
several years had been helping Venezuela develop, and we start
hearing about the Padrino, the head of the Venezuelan military
this morning gave a press conference in which he claimed
they detected three or four of these Marine Corps F
thirty five b's in their airspace. So that starts making
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me question are the Venezuelans being given training and capabilities
by the Russians, whom they have a military alliance with.
The Russians have really proven themselves effective at using really
innovative techniques on their radars for detecting American stealth planes.
(34:42):
The Chinese have also developed similar capabilities. It's not full proof. Still,
we have a lot of advantages with stealth, but the
Russians in particular have been really developing these innovative ways
of figuring out how to pinpoint American stealth planes. And
they're pretty cheap these method It's not like they're reinventing
new technology. They're using existing detection technology, but they're doing
(35:06):
it in a really unique way. They could be showing
the Venezuelans how to do that. I know they showed
the Iranians how to do that. So this is a
concern obviously, because the F thirty five is our big
primary warplane that we're going to be sending against Venezuela.
And while I do think the Venezuelan military is not impressive,
(35:29):
they do have certain unconventional capabilities that could make them
a bit harder to kill than we think. Furthermore, it's
a huge country, and you know the last thing we
want to do is get involved in some kind of
a jungle war. You know this is not really being
considered I think by the Pentagon as anything other than
(35:51):
a cake walk. But we might be surprised if we're
not careful.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, we sure mind. Brandon Mikaerh, you are the best.
Go pick up his books. It's the best, Brandon, Thank you,
my man. I appreciate you. I nerd out on that stuff, Chris,
I do. I nerd out on rough greens. You know
that I obsess over it. Well, at this point in time,
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we're giving Fred a longer life every time we sprinkle
it on his food. I understand now that I gave
all the dogs I ever have dead food their whole lives,
because you give your dog brown dog food. I do it.
I did it. It's all I ever did. And I
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