August 13, 2025 • 37 mins
The ‘gateway to The United States”. Democrats fear speaking out against the party. Traitor to the party of communism. Brandon Darby breaks down why Mexico giving up high ranking cartel members it may not be what it seems. Is Mexico protecting all these cartel leaders?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful hope Dye Wednesday. Remember,
you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
All right, so we're about to talk about a hostage
situation this hour. We're also gonna get to Brandon Darby.
There's Cartel News Mexico's handing over twenty seven Mexican cartel guys.
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Darby's gonna come up about a half hour from now
talk to us about that. But let's talk about the
hostage situation that's going on in America. And that hostage
situation is well Trump talked about it.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
They really are. They're they're stuck, they don't know what
to do. They have probably more I would say more
than half her sane, but they are led by insane people.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's talking about the Democrat Party. They're stuck. I am
curious about this. And the thing is, I'm about to
talk about something that I don't know about, and neither
do you. I'm about to talk about something nobody knows about.
How many American Democrats know they're in the midst of insanity,
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want the insanity to stop, but don't feel comfortable speaking
out because this and they're not comfortable speaking out. It's
a cult, it's a religion, it's called cult. Members who
speak out against the cult leader get treated horribly. I
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know people think I get a lot of hate mail
and death threats, and of course that's true. You know,
the communists hate me. You know who gets treated way
worse than I do, way worse. I've openly declared myself
to be the mortal enemy of communists. I am an
anti communist, that is who I am. I believe in
fighting and destroying communism until the day I die. If
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you are a Communist listening to my show, I despise
you as much as you despise me, and I'm going
to try to destroy your sick, demonic worldview. Now I've
openly declared that former Democrats get treated way worse than
I do, way worse. A Democrat who breaks away from
the cult, who chooses to leave the religion, isn't just
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an enemy, He's a traitor. And Democrats know this. Democrat
politicians and normy Democrats know this. Let's set aside the politicians,
because I have lived in a Democrat world a few
different times in my life. The biggest one is when
I lived in Washington, D C. For a year, because
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everybody there's a freaking Democrat, which we're going to get
to in a couple of minutes. Everybody there's a Democrat.
So I would get invited out with friends. I had
a few friends there ab and I would get invited
out on a Friday or a Saturday. Hey, we're having
some chicken wings and watching the game something like that. Well,
at these parties, at these meetups, there were mostly Democrats there.
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Oftentimes there was democrats there, and you can tell, you
can tell there is a fear, a palpable fear they
have at speaking against the cult in front of their friends.
It is a palpable fear for them. They don't want
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to be piled on, they don't want to be torn apart.
They frankly feel a little bit traitorous and dirty speaking
out against the club, speaking out against the religion, So
they don't do it. How many of them are there?
If you live in Washington, d C. For instance, which
I know you don't, but if you live in Washington,
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d C. Or you visit Washington, d C. My son
visited with his friends last year at the Lincoln Memorials,
some violent meth head started screaming violent threats at them. Now, granted,
because my son's an idiot and all of his friends
are too, they started laughing and thought it was hilarious.
But you understand what I mean. How many Democrats live
in d C. And they're afraid, afraid of physical violence.
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As we've talked about before. That's a different kind of afraid,
it really is. That's a whole different kind of fear.
When you are afraid of being physically hurt yourself personally,
that's a different kind of fear. How many Democrats are
scared to walk to the office, walk to the car,
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don't want to go out after lots and lots of them.
But at the same time, their religion, their religion has
a devil and his name is Donald Trump. How many
Democrats in that city want the big, evil devil to
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come in and take the scum off the streets. They
just don't feel comfortable saying.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I will just go back to the fact that you know,
the people that are cheering this on privately are not
like right wing Republicans, are not maga people, A lot
of our friends are in the media, and also Democrats
that worked on Joe Biden's campaign, that worked on other campaigns.
They're saying, Yeah, I'd like to feel safe walking around
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this city. If the federal government can be a positive
partner in keeping the streets safe while again forming a
partnership with the DC police and not taking over, then
I at least the people I've spoken with that live
in DC day and day out see this as a
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positive step.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
See it as a positive step. Now that's Joe Scarborough.
That's the stuff his friends are texting him. Hey, this
is kind of cool. Hey, I hate Trump. I hate Trump.
They'll throw in the qualifier, I really hate Trump. Don't
be wrong. I hate Trump, but sure would be nice
to not get stabbed. Now. Juxtapose that versus the DC
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Attorney General.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Is a city and a community need to be much
more focused on prevention and surrounding young people and their
families with resources. If we want to be safer in
the long run, we cannot prosecute and arrest our way
out of it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's how you have to talk when you're a Democrat
elected leader, otherwise you get torn to shreds. How many
normy Democrats, or at least not totally insane. Democrats are
living like that in not just DC, various parts of
the country. How many are tired of the expense, tired
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of the taxes, tired of the crime, tired of the illegals,
tired of the bilingual schools, tired of all the endless
democrat misery that Democrats have brought onto this country. But
they just don't have the courage to break away from
the religion. And that is a very common theme in
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communist countries throughout history. When an evil communist regime takes over.
It's not that all of them are masterminds and demons
and tearing people apart. So many people putting on that
Soviet uniform are disgusted by the Communist party, but they're afraid.
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How many Democrats listening to the sound of my voice
right now are a little uncomfortable because it's hitting home,
isn't it. Maybe you're squirming in your chair. Maybe that's you.
I don't expect you, based on my voice, to go
to that cocktail party this Friday and say to your friends, well,
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I mean, maybe it is good to keep murderers in jail.
I don't expect you to say that, but you could
maybe maybe your courage would be contagious, as courage often is.
And look, you can hate me all you want, but
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in a roundabout way, I'm trying to save your party.
There is a chance the Democrat Party does a Thelma
in Louise and drives right off the cliff. If they
don't stop, you can't brand yourself as the pro murder party,
the pro crime party. You can't say this stuff and
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keep getting elected. You're gonna end up losing places like
New York.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
He is, a city and a community need to be
much more focused on prevention and surrounding young people and
their families with resources. If we want to be safer
in the long run, we cannot prosecute and arrest our
way out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You've already seen see Democrats won't see these signs. But
I'm on the outside looking in, so I can see
these signs. I know you can see these signs. You've
already seen little burps, little little bits of pushback with
these various recalls, these various little little election things, even
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in Chicago. Look, we love to make fun of this.
Dufis who's the current mate?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
I would you say it like this, that the president
has always been intimidated by the intellectual prowess of black men,
and so of course he would speak in those petite,
in puerile terms.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Anyway, I know we make fun of Chicago, but they
did get rid of their last mayor because people were
tired of it. I realized they replaced Lori Lightfoot with
an even bigger moron. I understand that, but there are
these little signs that people were sick of it. People
are sick of it, and yet the leadership of the
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Democrat Party is trapped. Name me one national Democrat talking
about cracking down on crime. You can't the pro crime
party oops, speaking of pro pro crime. A lot of
this stuff goes back to the Black Lives Matter riots?
Did your cell phone company fund those? Just a question?
(10:44):
Do you have a rise in AT and T or
T Mobile? Why don't you pick up your phone? Won't
you look it up? Why don't you look up where
your money went? The animals? The animals were funded by
corporate America, meaning they were funded by you. My cell
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handing out American flags to veterans, taking care of veteran debt,
getting them the care they need. My cell phone company
is led by a patriot who did two tours in Vietnam.
Oh and my cell phone company charges me half of
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Wednesday
with me Bronco. What Chris, It's Jesse Kelly. And look,
it's been light tonight. It is as heavy as ten
boxes that.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
You might be moving.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That doesn't make sense with what I just said, but
I don't care. Sometimes that don't make sense. Let's do
some emails. I said I was gonna get to twenty.
I don't know how many I've gotten to so far.
But it's been a lot, now a lot, Chris, Jesse.
Here's a cool story. In two thousand, my step grandfather
was the oldest living son of a Civil War vet.
He was seventy nine at the time that Southern Living
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magazine did an interview with him. That's so cool. His
dad was seventy eight when Grandpa was born. He was
a Confederate veteran captured during the battle in eighteen sixty three,
thrown in a Union pow camp in Chicago. I forgot
the name of the camp. It was just as terrible
as Andersonville, swampy and disease ridden. He talked about the
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only food they got was a boiled broth. Once a day,
they caught rats and would cook them to eat. That's
freaking cool. Anyway, he said they were almost dead by
the end of the war. My step grandpa was a
very unique man. In his late seventies, he had three
different younger girlfriends that were in their forties and fifties.
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He had a date for every meal. He would joke
about hiring and firing them. His name was Wiley Denny.
I always enjoyed listening to the stories of these elderly men.
My grandpa's uncles and dad were all veterans from World
War Two, Korean Vietnam. They have all passed away now.
These men were treasures and they were greatly missed. I
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wanted to read that one because it's cool. And two,
I don't want to get sappy, but it is sad
that we're losing our old timers. And I know that's
how life goes, and they would tell you that too.
I get that, But there aren't many World War Two
veterans left and right on their heels. The Korean War
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guys are fading fast Green War guys, and I can't
believe I'm going to say this, but we're probably what
fifteen years away from losing our Vietnam guys. Sucks, I canses,
that's how it goes. Jesse, My wife and I just
returned from our honeymoon in Portugal. That's sweet. While we
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were there, we went on a private tour with a
man from Dubai. When he learned that my wife is
originally from Mexico, he heard Mexico was the gateway to
the United States. Oh my gosh. I tried to play
it off and told him we didn't know about all
that because we did things the right way. My wife
was here on a tourist visa. When we met, she
probably looked him right in the eyes and said fell
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in love. Spent years getting her through the citizen process.
He wouldn't drop the subject, though, and kept asking about
the details of the process. He even said he was
working with a company back in Dubai to find him
a wife in the United States. I think the cherry
on top was later in the day when he complained
about the Ukrainian immigrants coming to Portugal and driving up
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the real estate market. His name is Matt uh. Look,
it's a good thing. Let's focus on something positive about
all this. It's a good thing that we live in
a country everyone wants to go to. Isn't that Isn't
that cool? Let's be happy about that.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
We you and me.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I guess we have a bunch of international people listening
to But you and me Americans. We live in the
place everyone wants to visit. We're members of the club
everyone wants in, and we're already here there. It is cool, right,
Rit's got it cool. It makes me feel good when
I think about that. Nobody's trying to get into some
dumpling Italy. No, I'm kidding, nobody's trying to get into Rwanda.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Grit.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
There's not a line. There's not a line to get
into Yemen. No one wants to go there. Nobody. We
live in a place where people want to come now.
It is sad, incredibly sad and incredibly aggravating. That are politicians.
I would love to say just Democrats, but we have
James lank for type Republicans that our politicians will routinely
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make public statements that encourage people to try to get
in by any means necessary. That's horrible. The best Bard
of security is the rhetoric of the people who lead
the country, because everyone around the world listens. What do
you think that dodon Dubai thinks about Donald Trump versus
Joe Biden? You think that dud In Dubai right now
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because of the headlines, because of the speeches, do you
think he's going to try to get into this country illegally?
Not a chance. It's not worth the trouble. It's not
worth the risk. It's not worth it at all. Why
even bother But under Joe Biden, when the Communists were
running things, why wouldn't you try? They created an app
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so you can schedule your invasion. It's amazing to me,
amazing to me. Jesse, what's your insider info regarding the
mar Lago FBI raid? Was it so frantic because the
FBI rats were searching for the information that was discovered
and exposed by Tulca Gabbard. Could be. I've heard a
lot of that that the Marlago raid was so they
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could find and seize the documents Trump had that proved
those dirty rats were colluding behind his back during his presidency.
I've heard that, and that certainly could be, and that's
part of it probably, But here's what I know was
part of it. They got afraid. In fact, we're going
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to touch on that as soon as I'm done with
Darby if we can get ahold of him his cell phone.
It's garbage right now. But if we can get a
hold of Derby, then I'll talk to Derby next. If not,
then we'll do this next. We'll talk about them being
afraid and that being why they acted the way they acted. Now,
what is it that is making them so afraid. It's
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the loss of control. The loss of control, and I
don't just mean control of the government. They are losing
control of the people themselves. In fact, if you're to
study the trends, it looks like they've fled out, lost it.
It probably never coming back, and they're scared to death.
We'll talk about that next.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The Jesse Kelly Show on air and online at Jesse
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Speaker 2 (18:26):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Wednesday,
I'll hope day, and it's always fantastic. When Brandon Darby
of the Bright Bart Cartel Chronicles, Big Big Cheese editor
over there joins us to educate us on several things. Okay, Brandon,
they're handing over twenty six cartel leaders Mexico. Is what
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is this?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
I asked us to call you Jesse or Bronco.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Bronco. Please let's stick with Bronco.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Please, I'll tell you Bronco, Jesse, Broncos. Now when you
did that, there's a guy on Twitter named gay Patriot,
and I don't see at gay Patriot just because Gay's
in his name. Okay, okay, okay to this seriousness. Here,
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here's what just happened. Okay, this is the second time
that Mexico, the Mexican government has handed over these big
dogs in the in various cartels.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Right.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
The first time they handed over big dogs and a
bunch of cartels and the Sinaloa cartel. But keep in
mind that the the main cartel. This guy on Mincho
it's Cartel Jalisco, right, c J, and that's the names
of them. They their current secretary of Defense has very
close relationships with Mincho, right, They're very close. He is
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the one that is controlling the black markets in Mexico.
He is the that is the dominant cartel in Mexico,
Cartel Jalisco. Right. So they hand over all of these people.
The first time Trump starts to threaten the government with tarif,
they hand over a bunch of people, one of which
one of whom had had you know, brutally killed a
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DEE agent and then Kiki Camarina in the eighties. It
took that long for them to give us that guy, right.
They literally let this guy like stay in Mexico. They
let him out of prison. He started running a cartel
again and they put him back in prison of sorts.
But he has this wonderful life and they finally handed
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him over after three decades, right because of Trump. Otherwise
that that family of that DEE agent never would have
had justice if it weren't for what Trump did and
threatening Mexico. So they hand over these people. They're like, see,
we're helping you and we're going to cooperate with you.
But what they did was, as they only cooperated, really
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any big cooperation was against all of Mincho and Cartel
Jalisco's enemies. So really what they did was they had
the USA help them help their cartel buddy and take
out all of his enemies. So he kept taking over
more and more in Mexico. So the Trump administration wiveses
up and says, hey, you're not going to do this
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to us. So then they say we're going to hit
you with more tariffs and we're going to authorize US
military action in Mexico. And all of a sudden, Mexico's
government says, oh, here are these twenty six more top
Sinaloa and Jalisco cartel operators. But all the while, they
will not give us and they will not go after
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the leader of Cartel Jalisco, who is paying many people
in the leadership of Mexico. Do you see how this works?
You see this game that's being played. Awesome that they
handed these people over, Not awesome that they won't go
after Mincho. We can find Mincho, we I promise you.
The US government has plenty of information as to where
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he is, but Mexico's protecting him anytime you know, anytime
that there's a chance to get him, somebody tips him
off the day before, you know, in the Mexican government,
and he because we have to cooperate with the partel
connected government of Mexico. And that's what this is about.
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This is them saying, hey, we're doing something, We're showing
you some action. Please don't try to start doing unilateral
military action in our country because if you do, there's
really not a darn thing we can do about it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Okay, So again we're speaking with Brandon Darby Bright brought.
This is exactly why I wanted to have him on
because I was curious. I see the headline and immediately
I'm curious, Brandon, before we get through other parts of
what you just said, why not give this guy up?
I know you've said before for he is friends, I
guess personal friends with I guess their secretary of defense
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or something like that. But is it fear? Is it friendship?
Is it just simple brind money?
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Money? It's money. Everything is for sale in Mexico. So
that is really good. If you're a bad guy and
you can buy, you can buy your way out of justice.
But if somebody comes in with a larger economic incentive,
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then they can buy justice for you and get you incarcerated.
To see how this works, and everything is for sale
in Mexico. It's the most complicated thing you've ever seen.
If you try to do any business dealing in Mexico,
this is how it goes down. You start doing it,
it looks like it's going to work, and then at
the last minute they go, well, there's this one guy
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and he wants, you know, twenty thousand dollars or he can't,
you know, he can stop it. And so you're like, okay,
all right, twenty thousand dollars, all right, all right, yes,
he can be in the deal for twenty thousand dollars,
no problem. And then it moves a little further. And
then just on the last day, you think you're closing
the deal and they go, well, there's this this guy
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really doesn't want this to go through. But there's this
other guy who's his advisor, and he says that if
we hire him as an advisor for one hundred thousand,
you know, and you're like, oh my gosh, you know,
like this is the sane thing you've ever seen. A
top business works in Mexico. It's how it works, you know,
and this is how it works on the highest levels
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as well. So again, they're still protecting Elmnchow, they're still
protecting cartel Haliscope, they're still acting like they're helping us
fight cartels while they for the most part only go
after the enemies of elmnhow So, we're clearing his path, right,
and the Trump administration is starting to have enough of it,
and they're like, all right, let's let's have the ante.
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We're gonna we're gonna authorize you know, out of a
military action, and we're going to hit you with more
tariffs because you're not you're not doing enough. So they say, okay,
here's a little more. And then we're going to come
back again and say you're not doing enough, and they're
going to say here's a little more. And they're going
to draw this out to where Trump is no longer
in office, whoever's in their next does not care about
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this issue. They're just going to say they care about
it like Democrats and Republicans have for decades, right, and
they're not. That's what they're they're waiting it out. That's
what he's doing. He's very intelligent, very smart, knows what
he's doing and and he is is paying everyone and wait,
waiting this out, waiting this administration out. However, it is
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also good that we are getting these people. But mind you, not,
none of these people, not the first trunch and not
this trnch, none of these cartel operators and leaders would
would be facing us justice for what they've done to
our communities if it were not for Trump threatening tariff
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and threatening military action. And do not forget that fact.
Do not let that slip off your brain anyone.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Listening speaking with Brandon Darby Breitbart, I have so many
more questions now based off of these other things. So
we just asked this really briefly, Brandon, before I go
to break and then attempt to strangle you to keep
you here for one more segment. This el menshow guy
you've mentioned, You've mentioned Mincho several times. What's his background?
Where did you come from?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Well, okay, so Partel Jalisco was part of the Sinaloa Federation.
I've talked about this on the show before, not this
particular that's this, but the concept the Sinaloa cartell is
really a federation, right, It's really a bunch of different
criminal groups who are all you know, they agree to
be under the banner of the Sinaloa Cartel, Okay, But
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Mincho decided he was a leader in in Jalisco. He
decided that he was going to start his own cartel.
He was going to break his cartel away from the
Sinaloa Federation, and that started a war between Cartel Jalisco
now and the rest of the Sinaloa Federation. You know,
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the US government, with the help of the Mexican government,
has taken out several of the Sinaloa leadership. So now
the the Sinaloa Cartel, the Sinaloa Federation is a bunch
of groups fighting each other right with and they have
very limited federal power any longer. Some of them still
have a lot of power, but it's it's going to
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be waning as years go by, right for sure, because
we've we've done the same thing that we did to
the Golf Cartel, which is we decapitated them so many
times that now they're they're really a bunch of glorified
gang bangers operating under the the you know, the banner
of the Golf cartel. But really there's just a bunch
of you know, there's probably ten different leaders of the
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Golf cartel, right, you know, these different factions that are
often are fighting each other. So and it's much easier
to deal with that than it is to deal with
an Elmncho or a Sinaloa cartel when it was in
its heyday, because they control, they have access to control
in the federal government. Right, so when you deal with
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the golf cartel, now they have regional they might have
some municipal employees or workers, they have some journalists, they
have some people in the state government, but not as many,
not the governor any longer. Right, they don't have the
kind of power, and that's because of the decapitation approach,
and that's what's happening with the Sinaloa. But so Mincho
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broke away and said, hey, my criminal group is now
Cartel Alisco and it's no longer under your leadership. And
from now on I make all the money and I'm
going to be so brutal that that you know, all
of you are going to be afraid to mess with me.
And that's kind of what's happened.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He is sorry, he is Brandon Derby, Brandon, you have
just time for a couple more questions after the break.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
I'd love to have a cup of coffee. I'm chilling.
I'm all about it perfect.
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We are back with Brandon Darby of the great Bart
Bright Bart Cartel Chronicles. Brandon, okay, you mentioned the Cineloa
Federation and how we continue to take out the heads
of this. How significant was the taking out of El
Choppo to the disintegration, the slow disintegration of the Cineloa Federation.
(30:55):
I don't know. L Chopo. Was he some unbelievable seminal
figure or was he just another guy?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
He was an unbelievable seminal figure. He it's a big deal,
you know, I would say at this point it you know,
it's a big deal to do. But again we have
to understand the context. The context is another guy sprung up,
another guy started paying more people than politicking better, and
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then the Mexican government was willing to go after their
former boy because everything is for sale, right, and and
he did it. He did the job better, He did
the politicking and the bribing better, and so then the
Mexican government was willing to go after him. Now we're
at a point where there we can't play two people
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off of each other because there's no one as powerful
as Omento any longer. Right, So there's no one that powerful,
so we can't we can't take that approach. So so yes,
that was a lovely approach at the time, under the
specific circumstances. Getting El Chapo here was a big deal.
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Getting his son here was a big deal. Getting you know,
there's a lot of these big deals that are happening,
but they're still protecting the biggest artel figure in Mexico
and El Chapo. Make no mistake, Mexico would not have
gone after El Chapo and helped us go after Il
Chapo were they not doing the bidding of El Chapo's rival.
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Get it. So that's where we are. That's what we're
dealing with. We're dealing with a fragile nation that's literally
listed as a fragile nation, not a failed nation, but
a fragile state. Right, that is what Mexico is, a
fragile Marco state. And that is there are a lot
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of good people in Mexico, and there are a lot
of good people in Mexico's leadership are trying to be
in Mexico's leadership. In Mexic, there's law enforcement communities, but
make no mistakes, there are a lot more who are
not good when it comes to the leadership of that country,
because some of them are in those situations so they
can make money. Some of them are in those situations
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to make a change. And then they're told, you know,
you want plateo oplomo, like you want silver or lead.
We can either make you rich or we can kill
you and all of your children and your grandparents and
your wife. And so they choose to go the dirty
route because they don't have an FBI to call or
a nine to one one to call. They don't have
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if any time they call the government there they're tip
the cartel knows they did, you know. And a lot
of those people in government work for whichever cartel we're
dealing with at the time we're talking about. So it's
a very ugly situation. There's no pretty way out of this.
There's you know, not to tie it into another issue,
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but it's it's kind of like dealing with amos, like
there's no pretty way to do it, which if you're
going to try to get him off, there's no pretty
way to do it. There's no nice way to go
about this, okay, And and we're in the same situation
with Mexico in that regard it's gonna be ugly. There's
gonna be bloodshed, there's going to be people fighting for
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control once other people are gone. There's gonna be military
aircraft shot down as there have been, or you know,
there's gonna be drone explosions, and there's gonna be all
types of things that resemble guerrilla warfare in Mexico and
as there already are. Right people only have to go
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to Breitbart to read about land mines and the usage
of land mines and other IEDs and this. It's gonna
be ugly, but we're going to get through the other side.
And in the process of that, regardless of your opinions
on the drug war, there's going to be a lot
less illicit sentinel right killing the people who are the
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most vulnerable amongst us in our communities, and we will
see more success if we stay the course that we
are currently on. I don't believe that we can stay
the course because, as you know, Jesse, you're you're in
a position where you probably hear a lot, see a lot,
and deal with a lot of political leaders. There's something
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wrong with most of the people who get into politics
are I think their sociopaths are at least narcissistic so
much that they're close to that. And do I think
that they're going to have the stones that Trump has shown. No,
I don't, and I hope they do, but I don't
have faith in it. That's why I'm like, I am
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one hundred percent supportive of being as aggressive right now
as we can be, as aggressive as we can be.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Let's hammer the gas while we have the steering wheels still,
Brandon Darby, go if you're not reading the cartel chronicles,
you're not getting this stuff all the time until I
drag poor Brandon over here with a cup of coffee. Brandon,
thank thank you brother. As always, I appreciate you so much.
Thanks for educating us again, not an ugly state of affairs.
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I'm completely fascinated by this Elmento guy who apparently runs Mexico.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
So anyway, uh, we got this email. I wanted to
answer this really quickly before we get back to our politics. Jesse,
can you explain why and how owning physical gold helps
if the market crashes and the dollar becomes worthless. It's
not as if I can hack off a piece of
it and take it to the grocery store. Her name
(36:36):
is Mary, Mary, Yes you can. How do you think
people have been buying goods and services since time began?
Since before there was an America in England, before there
was a roam, before there was Israel, before there was
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gold and silver. That's how people bought. That's how people
bought things. Precious metals have lasted forever and will last
long beyond you, long long after America's gone, they'll be there.
Get some physical gold or silver from gold coat in
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We'll be back.
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful hope Dye Wednesday. Remember,
you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
All right, so we're about to talk about a hostage
situation this hour. We're also gonna get to Brandon Darby.
There's Cartel News Mexico's handing over twenty seven Mexican cartel guys.
(00:40):
Darby's gonna come up about a half hour from now
talk to us about that. But let's talk about the
hostage situation that's going on in America. And that hostage
situation is well Trump talked about it.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
They really are. They're they're stuck, they don't know what
to do. They have probably more I would say more
than half her sane, but they are led by insane people.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's talking about the Democrat Party. They're stuck. I am
curious about this. And the thing is, I'm about to
talk about something that I don't know about, and neither
do you. I'm about to talk about something nobody knows about.
How many American Democrats know they're in the midst of insanity,
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want the insanity to stop, but don't feel comfortable speaking
out because this and they're not comfortable speaking out. It's
a cult, it's a religion, it's called cult. Members who
speak out against the cult leader get treated horribly. I
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know people think I get a lot of hate mail
and death threats, and of course that's true. You know,
the communists hate me. You know who gets treated way
worse than I do, way worse. I've openly declared myself
to be the mortal enemy of communists. I am an
anti communist, that is who I am. I believe in
fighting and destroying communism until the day I die. If
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you are a Communist listening to my show, I despise
you as much as you despise me, and I'm going
to try to destroy your sick, demonic worldview. Now I've
openly declared that former Democrats get treated way worse than
I do, way worse. A Democrat who breaks away from
the cult, who chooses to leave the religion, isn't just
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an enemy, He's a traitor. And Democrats know this. Democrat
politicians and normy Democrats know this. Let's set aside the politicians,
because I have lived in a Democrat world a few
different times in my life. The biggest one is when
I lived in Washington, D C. For a year, because
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everybody there's a freaking Democrat, which we're going to get
to in a couple of minutes. Everybody there's a Democrat.
So I would get invited out with friends. I had
a few friends there ab and I would get invited
out on a Friday or a Saturday. Hey, we're having
some chicken wings and watching the game something like that. Well,
at these parties, at these meetups, there were mostly Democrats there.
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Oftentimes there was democrats there, and you can tell, you
can tell there is a fear, a palpable fear they
have at speaking against the cult in front of their friends.
It is a palpable fear for them. They don't want
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to be piled on, they don't want to be torn apart.
They frankly feel a little bit traitorous and dirty speaking
out against the club, speaking out against the religion, So
they don't do it. How many of them are there?
If you live in Washington, d C. For instance, which
I know you don't, but if you live in Washington,
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d C. Or you visit Washington, d C. My son
visited with his friends last year at the Lincoln Memorials,
some violent meth head started screaming violent threats at them. Now, granted,
because my son's an idiot and all of his friends
are too, they started laughing and thought it was hilarious.
But you understand what I mean. How many Democrats live
in d C. And they're afraid, afraid of physical violence.
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As we've talked about before. That's a different kind of afraid,
it really is. That's a whole different kind of fear.
When you are afraid of being physically hurt yourself personally,
that's a different kind of fear. How many Democrats are
scared to walk to the office, walk to the car,
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don't want to go out after lots and lots of them.
But at the same time, their religion, their religion has
a devil and his name is Donald Trump. How many
Democrats in that city want the big, evil devil to
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come in and take the scum off the streets. They
just don't feel comfortable saying.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I will just go back to the fact that you know,
the people that are cheering this on privately are not
like right wing Republicans, are not maga people, A lot
of our friends are in the media, and also Democrats
that worked on Joe Biden's campaign, that worked on other campaigns.
They're saying, Yeah, I'd like to feel safe walking around
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this city. If the federal government can be a positive
partner in keeping the streets safe while again forming a
partnership with the DC police and not taking over, then
I at least the people I've spoken with that live
in DC day and day out see this as a
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positive step.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
See it as a positive step. Now that's Joe Scarborough.
That's the stuff his friends are texting him. Hey, this
is kind of cool. Hey, I hate Trump. I hate Trump.
They'll throw in the qualifier, I really hate Trump. Don't
be wrong. I hate Trump, but sure would be nice
to not get stabbed. Now. Juxtapose that versus the DC
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Attorney General.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Is a city and a community need to be much
more focused on prevention and surrounding young people and their
families with resources. If we want to be safer in
the long run, we cannot prosecute and arrest our way
out of it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's how you have to talk when you're a Democrat
elected leader, otherwise you get torn to shreds. How many
normy Democrats, or at least not totally insane. Democrats are
living like that in not just DC, various parts of
the country. How many are tired of the expense, tired
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of the taxes, tired of the crime, tired of the illegals,
tired of the bilingual schools, tired of all the endless
democrat misery that Democrats have brought onto this country. But
they just don't have the courage to break away from
the religion. And that is a very common theme in
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communist countries throughout history. When an evil communist regime takes over.
It's not that all of them are masterminds and demons
and tearing people apart. So many people putting on that
Soviet uniform are disgusted by the Communist party, but they're afraid.
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How many Democrats listening to the sound of my voice
right now are a little uncomfortable because it's hitting home,
isn't it. Maybe you're squirming in your chair. Maybe that's you.
I don't expect you, based on my voice, to go
to that cocktail party this Friday and say to your friends, well,
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I mean, maybe it is good to keep murderers in jail.
I don't expect you to say that, but you could
maybe maybe your courage would be contagious, as courage often is.
And look, you can hate me all you want, but
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in a roundabout way, I'm trying to save your party.
There is a chance the Democrat Party does a Thelma
in Louise and drives right off the cliff. If they
don't stop, you can't brand yourself as the pro murder party,
the pro crime party. You can't say this stuff and
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keep getting elected. You're gonna end up losing places like
New York.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
He is, a city and a community need to be
much more focused on prevention and surrounding young people and
their families with resources. If we want to be safer
in the long run, we cannot prosecute and arrest our
way out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You've already seen see Democrats won't see these signs. But
I'm on the outside looking in, so I can see
these signs. I know you can see these signs. You've
already seen little burps, little little bits of pushback with
these various recalls, these various little little election things, even
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in Chicago. Look, we love to make fun of this.
Dufis who's the current mate?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
I would you say it like this, that the president
has always been intimidated by the intellectual prowess of black men,
and so of course he would speak in those petite,
in puerile terms.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Anyway, I know we make fun of Chicago, but they
did get rid of their last mayor because people were
tired of it. I realized they replaced Lori Lightfoot with
an even bigger moron. I understand that, but there are
these little signs that people were sick of it. People
are sick of it, and yet the leadership of the
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Democrat Party is trapped. Name me one national Democrat talking
about cracking down on crime. You can't the pro crime
party oops, speaking of pro pro crime. A lot of
this stuff goes back to the Black Lives Matter riots?
Did your cell phone company fund those? Just a question?
(10:44):
Do you have a rise in AT and T or
T Mobile? Why don't you pick up your phone? Won't
you look it up? Why don't you look up where
your money went? The animals? The animals were funded by
corporate America, meaning they were funded by you. My cell
(11:05):
phone company didn't Pure Talk. Didn't Pure talk. They're busy
handing out American flags to veterans, taking care of veteran debt,
getting them the care they need. My cell phone company
is led by a patriot who did two tours in Vietnam.
Oh and my cell phone company charges me half of
what you're paying. You can keep your phone, keep your number,
(11:28):
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Speaker 1 (11:43):
Feeling a little stocky, Follow like and subscribe on social
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Speaker 2 (11:50):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Wednesday
with me Bronco. What Chris, It's Jesse Kelly. And look,
it's been light tonight. It is as heavy as ten
boxes that.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
You might be moving.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That doesn't make sense with what I just said, but
I don't care. Sometimes that don't make sense. Let's do
some emails. I said I was gonna get to twenty.
I don't know how many I've gotten to so far.
But it's been a lot, now a lot, Chris, Jesse.
Here's a cool story. In two thousand, my step grandfather
was the oldest living son of a Civil War vet.
He was seventy nine at the time that Southern Living
(12:28):
magazine did an interview with him. That's so cool. His
dad was seventy eight when Grandpa was born. He was
a Confederate veteran captured during the battle in eighteen sixty three,
thrown in a Union pow camp in Chicago. I forgot
the name of the camp. It was just as terrible
as Andersonville, swampy and disease ridden. He talked about the
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only food they got was a boiled broth. Once a day,
they caught rats and would cook them to eat. That's
freaking cool. Anyway, he said they were almost dead by
the end of the war. My step grandpa was a
very unique man. In his late seventies, he had three
different younger girlfriends that were in their forties and fifties.
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He had a date for every meal. He would joke
about hiring and firing them. His name was Wiley Denny.
I always enjoyed listening to the stories of these elderly men.
My grandpa's uncles and dad were all veterans from World
War Two, Korean Vietnam. They have all passed away now.
These men were treasures and they were greatly missed. I
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wanted to read that one because it's cool. And two,
I don't want to get sappy, but it is sad
that we're losing our old timers. And I know that's
how life goes, and they would tell you that too.
I get that, But there aren't many World War Two
veterans left and right on their heels. The Korean War
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guys are fading fast Green War guys, and I can't
believe I'm going to say this, but we're probably what
fifteen years away from losing our Vietnam guys. Sucks, I canses,
that's how it goes. Jesse, My wife and I just
returned from our honeymoon in Portugal. That's sweet. While we
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were there, we went on a private tour with a
man from Dubai. When he learned that my wife is
originally from Mexico, he heard Mexico was the gateway to
the United States. Oh my gosh. I tried to play
it off and told him we didn't know about all
that because we did things the right way. My wife
was here on a tourist visa. When we met, she
probably looked him right in the eyes and said fell
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in love. Spent years getting her through the citizen process.
He wouldn't drop the subject, though, and kept asking about
the details of the process. He even said he was
working with a company back in Dubai to find him
a wife in the United States. I think the cherry
on top was later in the day when he complained
about the Ukrainian immigrants coming to Portugal and driving up
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the real estate market. His name is Matt uh. Look,
it's a good thing. Let's focus on something positive about
all this. It's a good thing that we live in
a country everyone wants to go to. Isn't that Isn't
that cool? Let's be happy about that.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
We you and me.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I guess we have a bunch of international people listening
to But you and me Americans. We live in the
place everyone wants to visit. We're members of the club
everyone wants in, and we're already here there. It is cool, right,
Rit's got it cool. It makes me feel good when
I think about that. Nobody's trying to get into some
dumpling Italy. No, I'm kidding, nobody's trying to get into Rwanda.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Grit.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
There's not a line. There's not a line to get
into Yemen. No one wants to go there. Nobody. We
live in a place where people want to come now.
It is sad, incredibly sad and incredibly aggravating. That are politicians.
I would love to say just Democrats, but we have
James lank for type Republicans that our politicians will routinely
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make public statements that encourage people to try to get
in by any means necessary. That's horrible. The best Bard
of security is the rhetoric of the people who lead
the country, because everyone around the world listens. What do
you think that dodon Dubai thinks about Donald Trump versus
Joe Biden? You think that dud In Dubai right now
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because of the headlines, because of the speeches, do you
think he's going to try to get into this country illegally?
Not a chance. It's not worth the trouble. It's not
worth the risk. It's not worth it at all. Why
even bother But under Joe Biden, when the Communists were
running things, why wouldn't you try? They created an app
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so you can schedule your invasion. It's amazing to me,
amazing to me. Jesse, what's your insider info regarding the
mar Lago FBI raid? Was it so frantic because the
FBI rats were searching for the information that was discovered
and exposed by Tulca Gabbard. Could be. I've heard a
lot of that that the Marlago raid was so they
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could find and seize the documents Trump had that proved
those dirty rats were colluding behind his back during his presidency.
I've heard that, and that certainly could be, and that's
part of it probably, But here's what I know was
part of it. They got afraid. In fact, we're going
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to touch on that as soon as I'm done with
Darby if we can get ahold of him his cell phone.
It's garbage right now. But if we can get a
hold of Derby, then I'll talk to Derby next. If not,
then we'll do this next. We'll talk about them being
afraid and that being why they acted the way they acted. Now,
what is it that is making them so afraid. It's
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the loss of control. The loss of control, and I
don't just mean control of the government. They are losing
control of the people themselves. In fact, if you're to
study the trends, it looks like they've fled out, lost it.
It probably never coming back, and they're scared to death.
We'll talk about that next.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The Jesse Kelly Show on air and online at Jesse
kellyshow dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Wednesday,
I'll hope day, and it's always fantastic. When Brandon Darby
of the Bright Bart Cartel Chronicles, Big Big Cheese editor
over there joins us to educate us on several things. Okay, Brandon,
they're handing over twenty six cartel leaders Mexico. Is what
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is this?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
I asked us to call you Jesse or Bronco.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Bronco. Please let's stick with Bronco.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Please, I'll tell you Bronco, Jesse, Broncos. Now when you
did that, there's a guy on Twitter named gay Patriot,
and I don't see at gay Patriot just because Gay's
in his name. Okay, okay, okay to this seriousness. Here,
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here's what just happened. Okay, this is the second time
that Mexico, the Mexican government has handed over these big
dogs in the in various cartels.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Right.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
The first time they handed over big dogs and a
bunch of cartels and the Sinaloa cartel. But keep in
mind that the the main cartel. This guy on Mincho
it's Cartel Jalisco, right, c J, and that's the names
of them. They their current secretary of Defense has very
close relationships with Mincho, right, They're very close. He is
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the one that is controlling the black markets in Mexico.
He is the that is the dominant cartel in Mexico,
Cartel Jalisco. Right. So they hand over all of these people.
The first time Trump starts to threaten the government with tarif,
they hand over a bunch of people, one of which
one of whom had had you know, brutally killed a
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DEE agent and then Kiki Camarina in the eighties. It
took that long for them to give us that guy, right.
They literally let this guy like stay in Mexico. They
let him out of prison. He started running a cartel
again and they put him back in prison of sorts.
But he has this wonderful life and they finally handed
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him over after three decades, right because of Trump. Otherwise
that that family of that DEE agent never would have
had justice if it weren't for what Trump did and
threatening Mexico. So they hand over these people. They're like, see,
we're helping you and we're going to cooperate with you.
But what they did was, as they only cooperated, really
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any big cooperation was against all of Mincho and Cartel
Jalisco's enemies. So really what they did was they had
the USA help them help their cartel buddy and take
out all of his enemies. So he kept taking over
more and more in Mexico. So the Trump administration wiveses
up and says, hey, you're not going to do this
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to us. So then they say we're going to hit
you with more tariffs and we're going to authorize US
military action in Mexico. And all of a sudden, Mexico's
government says, oh, here are these twenty six more top
Sinaloa and Jalisco cartel operators. But all the while, they
will not give us and they will not go after
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the leader of Cartel Jalisco, who is paying many people
in the leadership of Mexico. Do you see how this works?
You see this game that's being played. Awesome that they
handed these people over, Not awesome that they won't go
after Mincho. We can find Mincho, we I promise you.
The US government has plenty of information as to where
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he is, but Mexico's protecting him anytime you know, anytime
that there's a chance to get him, somebody tips him
off the day before, you know, in the Mexican government,
and he because we have to cooperate with the partel
connected government of Mexico. And that's what this is about.
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This is them saying, hey, we're doing something, We're showing
you some action. Please don't try to start doing unilateral
military action in our country because if you do, there's
really not a darn thing we can do about it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Okay, So again we're speaking with Brandon Darby Bright brought.
This is exactly why I wanted to have him on
because I was curious. I see the headline and immediately
I'm curious, Brandon, before we get through other parts of
what you just said, why not give this guy up?
I know you've said before for he is friends, I
guess personal friends with I guess their secretary of defense
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or something like that. But is it fear? Is it friendship?
Is it just simple brind money?
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Money? It's money. Everything is for sale in Mexico. So
that is really good. If you're a bad guy and
you can buy, you can buy your way out of justice.
But if somebody comes in with a larger economic incentive,
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then they can buy justice for you and get you incarcerated.
To see how this works, and everything is for sale
in Mexico. It's the most complicated thing you've ever seen.
If you try to do any business dealing in Mexico,
this is how it goes down. You start doing it,
it looks like it's going to work, and then at
the last minute they go, well, there's this one guy
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and he wants, you know, twenty thousand dollars or he can't,
you know, he can stop it. And so you're like, okay,
all right, twenty thousand dollars, all right, all right, yes,
he can be in the deal for twenty thousand dollars,
no problem. And then it moves a little further. And
then just on the last day, you think you're closing
the deal and they go, well, there's this this guy
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really doesn't want this to go through. But there's this
other guy who's his advisor, and he says that if
we hire him as an advisor for one hundred thousand,
you know, and you're like, oh my gosh, you know,
like this is the sane thing you've ever seen. A
top business works in Mexico. It's how it works, you know,
and this is how it works on the highest levels
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as well. So again, they're still protecting Elmnchow, they're still
protecting cartel Haliscope, they're still acting like they're helping us
fight cartels while they for the most part only go
after the enemies of elmnhow So, we're clearing his path, right,
and the Trump administration is starting to have enough of it,
and they're like, all right, let's let's have the ante.
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We're gonna we're gonna authorize you know, out of a
military action, and we're going to hit you with more
tariffs because you're not you're not doing enough. So they say, okay,
here's a little more. And then we're going to come
back again and say you're not doing enough, and they're
going to say here's a little more. And they're going
to draw this out to where Trump is no longer
in office, whoever's in their next does not care about
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this issue. They're just going to say they care about
it like Democrats and Republicans have for decades, right, and
they're not. That's what they're they're waiting it out. That's
what he's doing. He's very intelligent, very smart, knows what
he's doing and and he is is paying everyone and wait,
waiting this out, waiting this administration out. However, it is
(25:40):
also good that we are getting these people. But mind you, not,
none of these people, not the first trunch and not
this trnch, none of these cartel operators and leaders would
would be facing us justice for what they've done to
our communities if it were not for Trump threatening tariff
(26:00):
and threatening military action. And do not forget that fact.
Do not let that slip off your brain anyone.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Listening speaking with Brandon Darby Breitbart, I have so many
more questions now based off of these other things. So
we just asked this really briefly, Brandon, before I go
to break and then attempt to strangle you to keep
you here for one more segment. This el menshow guy
you've mentioned, You've mentioned Mincho several times. What's his background?
Where did you come from?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Well, okay, so Partel Jalisco was part of the Sinaloa Federation.
I've talked about this on the show before, not this
particular that's this, but the concept the Sinaloa cartell is
really a federation, right, It's really a bunch of different
criminal groups who are all you know, they agree to
be under the banner of the Sinaloa Cartel, Okay, But
(26:52):
Mincho decided he was a leader in in Jalisco. He
decided that he was going to start his own cartel.
He was going to break his cartel away from the
Sinaloa Federation, and that started a war between Cartel Jalisco
now and the rest of the Sinaloa Federation. You know,
(27:12):
the US government, with the help of the Mexican government,
has taken out several of the Sinaloa leadership. So now
the the Sinaloa Cartel, the Sinaloa Federation is a bunch
of groups fighting each other right with and they have
very limited federal power any longer. Some of them still
have a lot of power, but it's it's going to
(27:34):
be waning as years go by, right for sure, because
we've we've done the same thing that we did to
the Golf Cartel, which is we decapitated them so many
times that now they're they're really a bunch of glorified
gang bangers operating under the the you know, the banner
of the Golf cartel. But really there's just a bunch
of you know, there's probably ten different leaders of the
(27:56):
Golf cartel, right, you know, these different factions that are
often are fighting each other. So and it's much easier
to deal with that than it is to deal with
an Elmncho or a Sinaloa cartel when it was in
its heyday, because they control, they have access to control
in the federal government. Right, so when you deal with
(28:18):
the golf cartel, now they have regional they might have
some municipal employees or workers, they have some journalists, they
have some people in the state government, but not as many,
not the governor any longer. Right, they don't have the
kind of power, and that's because of the decapitation approach,
and that's what's happening with the Sinaloa. But so Mincho
(28:42):
broke away and said, hey, my criminal group is now
Cartel Alisco and it's no longer under your leadership. And
from now on I make all the money and I'm
going to be so brutal that that you know, all
of you are going to be afraid to mess with me.
And that's kind of what's happened.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He is sorry, he is Brandon Derby, Brandon, you have
just time for a couple more questions after the break.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
I'd love to have a cup of coffee. I'm chilling.
I'm all about it perfect.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
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You can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
We are back with Brandon Darby of the great Bart
Bright Bart Cartel Chronicles. Brandon, okay, you mentioned the Cineloa
Federation and how we continue to take out the heads
of this. How significant was the taking out of El
Choppo to the disintegration, the slow disintegration of the Cineloa Federation.
(30:55):
I don't know. L Chopo. Was he some unbelievable seminal
figure or was he just another guy?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
He was an unbelievable seminal figure. He it's a big deal,
you know, I would say at this point it you know,
it's a big deal to do. But again we have
to understand the context. The context is another guy sprung up,
another guy started paying more people than politicking better, and
(31:26):
then the Mexican government was willing to go after their
former boy because everything is for sale, right, and and
he did it. He did the job better, He did
the politicking and the bribing better, and so then the
Mexican government was willing to go after him. Now we're
at a point where there we can't play two people
(31:49):
off of each other because there's no one as powerful
as Omento any longer. Right, So there's no one that powerful,
so we can't we can't take that approach. So so yes,
that was a lovely approach at the time, under the
specific circumstances. Getting El Chapo here was a big deal.
(32:12):
Getting his son here was a big deal. Getting you know,
there's a lot of these big deals that are happening,
but they're still protecting the biggest artel figure in Mexico
and El Chapo. Make no mistake, Mexico would not have
gone after El Chapo and helped us go after Il
Chapo were they not doing the bidding of El Chapo's rival.
(32:33):
Get it. So that's where we are. That's what we're
dealing with. We're dealing with a fragile nation that's literally
listed as a fragile nation, not a failed nation, but
a fragile state. Right, that is what Mexico is, a
fragile Marco state. And that is there are a lot
(32:53):
of good people in Mexico, and there are a lot
of good people in Mexico's leadership are trying to be
in Mexico's leadership. In Mexic, there's law enforcement communities, but
make no mistakes, there are a lot more who are
not good when it comes to the leadership of that country,
because some of them are in those situations so they
can make money. Some of them are in those situations
(33:15):
to make a change. And then they're told, you know,
you want plateo oplomo, like you want silver or lead.
We can either make you rich or we can kill
you and all of your children and your grandparents and
your wife. And so they choose to go the dirty
route because they don't have an FBI to call or
a nine to one one to call. They don't have
(33:35):
if any time they call the government there they're tip
the cartel knows they did, you know. And a lot
of those people in government work for whichever cartel we're
dealing with at the time we're talking about. So it's
a very ugly situation. There's no pretty way out of this.
There's you know, not to tie it into another issue,
(33:55):
but it's it's kind of like dealing with amos, like
there's no pretty way to do it, which if you're
going to try to get him off, there's no pretty
way to do it. There's no nice way to go
about this, okay, And and we're in the same situation
with Mexico in that regard it's gonna be ugly. There's
gonna be bloodshed, there's going to be people fighting for
(34:15):
control once other people are gone. There's gonna be military
aircraft shot down as there have been, or you know,
there's gonna be drone explosions, and there's gonna be all
types of things that resemble guerrilla warfare in Mexico and
as there already are. Right people only have to go
(34:36):
to Breitbart to read about land mines and the usage
of land mines and other IEDs and this. It's gonna
be ugly, but we're going to get through the other side.
And in the process of that, regardless of your opinions
on the drug war, there's going to be a lot
less illicit sentinel right killing the people who are the
(34:56):
most vulnerable amongst us in our communities, and we will
see more success if we stay the course that we
are currently on. I don't believe that we can stay
the course because, as you know, Jesse, you're you're in
a position where you probably hear a lot, see a lot,
and deal with a lot of political leaders. There's something
(35:17):
wrong with most of the people who get into politics
are I think their sociopaths are at least narcissistic so
much that they're close to that. And do I think
that they're going to have the stones that Trump has shown. No,
I don't, and I hope they do, but I don't
have faith in it. That's why I'm like, I am
(35:39):
one hundred percent supportive of being as aggressive right now
as we can be, as aggressive as we can be.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Let's hammer the gas while we have the steering wheels still,
Brandon Darby, go if you're not reading the cartel chronicles,
you're not getting this stuff all the time until I
drag poor Brandon over here with a cup of coffee. Brandon,
thank thank you brother. As always, I appreciate you so much.
Thanks for educating us again, not an ugly state of affairs.
(36:11):
I'm completely fascinated by this Elmento guy who apparently runs Mexico.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
So anyway, uh, we got this email. I wanted to
answer this really quickly before we get back to our politics. Jesse,
can you explain why and how owning physical gold helps
if the market crashes and the dollar becomes worthless. It's
not as if I can hack off a piece of
it and take it to the grocery store. Her name
(36:36):
is Mary, Mary, Yes you can. How do you think
people have been buying goods and services since time began?
Since before there was an America in England, before there
was a roam, before there was Israel, before there was
(36:58):
gold and silver. That's how people bought. That's how people
bought things. Precious metals have lasted forever and will last
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