September 29, 2025 • 38 mins
Dr Michael Waller on who the foot soldiers of the revolution are. How do cells like these Antifa radicals grow? Why is the NFL featuring people like Bad Bunny? You have a better understanding of politics than some politicians. Medal of Honor: Hector A. Cafferata Jr
Follow The Jesse Kelly Show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheJesseKellyShow
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is a Jesse
Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday, another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show. We have an amazing hour for you.
It is just jam packed full of goodness. Of course,
Medal of Honor Monday's coming up. A minute from now.
(00:31):
We have j Michael Waller joining us. A half hour
from now, they're starting to do breakdowns of these Antifa
terrorist groups.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And he was.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Involved in things like communist revolutions in El Salvador. He's
just a wealth of knowledge and he's about to dump
that knowledge on us. About a half hour from now,
we'll talk more about these people using power, the religion
of conquest, Alvin Bragg let some New York woman go free?
Why did that happen? All that more coming up on
(01:03):
the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. But this moment is
dedicated to heroes, as it always is on Mondays Mondays.
Start of the second hour, it's Medal of Honor Monday
time on this show, always has been and always will be.
You can do this. I want to again encourage you.
I didn't do any of these things. I don't own this.
(01:25):
Everybody has access to every Medal of Honor citation that's
ever been earned. You can do this with your family,
with your class, with your team.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You can do it at work.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Read the names, read the deeds. It's not just good
and healthy for the country. It's interesting. It's like it's
like an action movie. And yes, of course we take
email recommendations. Love hey, death threats and recommendations. If there
are ones you love, like this one, Jesse, I absolutely
love your Medal of Honor Mondays. Try to listen to
(01:56):
them whatever my schedule permits. I just finished a book
about Chosen Reservoir and was amazed by the actions of
Medal of Honor recipient hector A Caferata Junior, and would
love to hear you relate his story to your audience. Well,
you've actually done this one once before, and as is
(02:17):
usually the case with these things, his citation is grossly
inadequate compared to what he did, and his citation is amazing.
So I'm going to start with a citation. Then I'll
add some more detail to it because they actually underserved
the man, and I'll explain.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Why that happened. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He was born in New York City in nineteen twenty nine.
United States Marine Corps. And this is what he did.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Right, hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. It's
Medal of Honor Monday.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
For conspicuous gallantry and in rapidity at the risk of
his life, above and beyond the call of duty, while
serving as a rifleman with Company F in action against
enemy aggressor forces. When all other members of his fire
team became casualties, creating a gap in the lines during
the initial phase of a vicious attack launched by a
(03:19):
fanatical enemy of regimental strength against his company's hill position,
Private Caferata waged a lone battle with grenades and rifle fire.
As the attack gained momentum. Momentum and the enemy threatened
penetration through the gap and endangered the integrity of the
entire defensive perimeter. Making a target of himself. Under devastating
(03:43):
fire from automatic weapons, rifles, grenades, and mortars, he moved
up and down the line and delivered accurate and effective
fire against the on rushing force, killing fifteen wounding many
more than forcing others to withdraw so that reinforcements could
move up and consolidate the position.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Fighting desperately against a renewed onslaught. Later that same morning,
when a hostile grenade landed in a shallow entrenchment occupied
by wounded marines, Private Caferata rushed into the gully under
heavy fire, seized the deadly missile in his right hand
and hurled it free of his comrades before it detonated,
(04:26):
severing part of one finger and seriously wounding him in
the right hand and arm. Courageously, ignoring the intense pain,
he staunchly fought on until he was struck by a
sniper's bullet and forced to submit to evacuation for medical treatment.
Stout hearted and indomitable, Private Caferata, by his fortitude, great
(04:47):
personal valor, and dauntless perseverance in the face of almost
certain death, saved the lives of several of his fellow
marines and contributed essentially to the success achieved by his
company in maintaining the defensive position against tremendous odds. His
extraordinary heroism throughout was in keeping with the highest traditions
(05:09):
of US Naval service. Now for the rest of the story,
or at least a bit of it. First of all,
he was an athlete, a world class football player. I
believe if memory serves me. He went semi pro football player,
big Dude. In fact, his nickname was Big Heck. That
(05:29):
was his nickname, Big Heck football player joins the Marine Corps.
Is kind of a problem child in the Marine Corps.
It's kind of a problem child, and those oftentimes are
the guys who earn these incredible medals. So he's got
a buddy with him this night. His comrade in arms
is a guy Kenneth Benson. Is his name, Private Kenneth Benson.
(05:53):
They are in their sleeping bags. Remember it is frigid cold. Now.
This took place at a place called Talk Tong Pass.
I don't expect that to mean anything to you. It
doesn't matter. Here's what you have to know. Our troops
were cut off at Chose at Chosen reservoir, or I
should say almost cut off.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
If we lost.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Control of Talk Tong Pass, our troops would be completely
cut off and we may have seen the annihilation of
thirty thousand troops. That's how severe the situation was. Big
He's company was essentially overlooking that pass. The Chinese troops
(06:34):
knew they had to take his position. What's in his
position about two hundred marines roughly, how many did the
Chinese send different estimates depending on what you read. Twelve
to fourteen hundred Chinese troops attack them because they had
to have the pass. Now you know how I told
(06:55):
you these guys were in their sleeping bags. Kenneth Benson,
his buddy had a grenade essentially believe it was a
grenade if memories sir as me explode, and it blinded him.
He no longer had the use of his eyes at
the beginning of this. But this little warrior, who should
have possibly earned the metal himself, did not quit, did
not give up. He spent the rest of the night
(07:19):
refilling magazines and handing magazines to Big Heck, who spent
his time shooting them, and his blind buddy is blindly
handing the magazines. The Chinese are chucking so many grenades
up at Big Heck during all this, he actually pulls
out his little mini shovel and starts swatting them back
at the Chinese like baseballs when they're chucking him at him.
(07:42):
I'm telling you, man that they could make an entire
movie out of this one part of Chosen Reservoir, and
it would win all kinds of awards, except you know,
they'd gave the whole thing up and ruin it all.
But it is an insane story, oh, in one tiny
little bit that maybe the biggest bit of it. You
know how I told you they were in their sleeping bags,
(08:03):
they didn't have time to put on their shoes. It's
ten to twenty below zero at least, and they are
standing in knee deep snow, and big Heck is taking
on waves of Chinese in his bare freaking feet for
hours at a time, hours at a time. So many
(08:28):
Marines died in this company. I told you it was
about two hundred. You know how many were left by morning?
About eighty. They're just dying in droves, and Heck is
just murdering the Chinese as fast as they can come
at him. You know, they said he killed fifteen. There
are estimates from multiple people.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That he killed a hundred of them.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
They did not report that number because they thought it
would not be believed. Now who knows what the exact
number is, But it was not fifteen. It was a lot.
He was in his bare feet by the time he
got back.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
They didn't know.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
If he was going to keep either of his feet,
and they did not know if he was going to live.
They shipped him back to America. His feet were like black.
They shipped him back to America. He had to undergo
treatment for a year and a half before he was upright,
kept his feet, kept his patriotism. I think he worked
for the Forest Service, if I remember right. Was always
(09:32):
a hardcore patriot and by the way, a super humble dude.
When they told him me to earn the Medal of Honor,
he asked him to mail it to him.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Can you just put that in the mail?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And they said, ah, no, no, no, you actually need
to come to Washington, d c.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And accept it.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Lived until two thy sixteen, died in the state of Florida.
Is buried, I believe. Don't quote me on this. I
haven't read his stuff in a while. I think he's
buried at Quantico, Virginia based Quantico, Virginia. Big heck man,
I'm telling you hid a lion, a lion who saved
a lot of lives and did not kill fifteen fifteen.
(10:11):
That's an appetizer for big heck. All right, we're going
to talk about what happened in corporate America. Well again,
touch on communists using power when they find it. I
want to touch on your dog. For that's I don't
want to. I wish I hadn't put that that way.
I want your dog to be healthier. I mean I
would pet your dog, probably unless he stinks. If you
(10:34):
want your dog to have a better coat and better
breast so he's less smelly. Your dog needs nutrition the
same way you need nutrition. Your dog has to have it.
We we bury our dogs too early, and it hurts.
I've buried so many, usually digging it myself, me and
(10:54):
my dad. Let Rough Greens keep your dog alive longer.
Roughgreens is America's number one dog supplement for a reason.
Live vitamins minerals your dog. You will see differences in
their energy. They're just better dogs, and they don't keel
over so early. There's no nutrition in your dog's food.
(11:18):
Get a free Jumpstart trial bag and sprinkle it on
your dog's food. Roughgreens dot Com promo code Jesse or
call them two one four Roughdog Promo code Jesse.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Miss something. There's a podcast, Get it on demand wherever
podcasts are found. It The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wild, amazing Monday,
only ten minutes away from Jmichael Waller.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm so excited about that.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
To learn more about these Antifa Terra Networks member, you
can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
If you missed any part of the show, you.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Can downloaded iHeart Spotify iTunes. I'm actually gonna pause really
quickly on them using power because I wanted to bring
up something. Apparently so many people are angry about it.
I know it's NFL season, and I know the NFL
is majorly popular, and I know you probably watch it.
I got all that the NFL came out and announced
somebody named Bad Bunny.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
No idea who that is.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Apparently he's going to be the halftime show. He's some
foreigner and he has a history of saying things like this.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Apparently I'm never performing in the US again.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'm scared, scared that I might.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Raid the venue outside my show, and honestly, I can
risk the safety of my fans like that. Mainland America
just doesn't feel necessary to me anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But I don't know who this person is.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I could not name a single song, and nor do
I care to find out. But let me let me
just address your rage for a moment, and believe me
when I tell you I am not scolding you for
still watching at all. I still do things that are bad.
I try not to. I still support companies I should.
I try not to. I'm trying to be better. So
(13:11):
I'm not lecturing at all. But there is something that
takes place now in all ways. So I'm gonna explain
what happened here. And actually I talked about this last
week when it comes to politics, but it very much
applies to companies, corporations. It really applies to so many things. Yeah,
you know what, I'll make it about the Jesse Kelly Show.
(13:32):
The Jesse Kelly Show has hardcore listeners. Every show does.
So I'm just gonna make it about me to make
it easier to understand. And the radio business I have
learned they call them p ones. Still no idea what
that means, but that's what they call.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
The most hardcore people.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Those are the people who don't miss a single minute
of any show. If they do, they'll download the podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You got the p ones.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
If my goal, and this is not my goal, but
if my goal was I want to be the biggest,
richest radio star in the history of the world. And
that is not my goal, which just not my thing,
as you know. But if that was my goal, then
here's how I might go about it. My p ones,
(14:13):
the hardcore listeners, maybe that's you. I want to keep you.
I have to keep you. But I also because my
goal is to be the biggest, richest ever, I need more.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I need more people in.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So how much can I stray from who I am
and what you like while still keeping you?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's the goal. The goal is can I moderate a
little here?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Maybe be less offensive there, be a little less honest
about this, only a little.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't. I don't want to push you away.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But how much can I flirt with the line of
pushing you away to bring in new people so that
I get to keep you and get more new people.
I used it in reference to politics before Republicans Democrats
they do this.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
How much can I.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Screw my base over in the general election, but not
screw them over so much they leave.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I need to screw them over a little.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Bring in some of the more squishes while not completely
betraying my base. Okay, this applies to more than just me.
It applies to more than politics. The NFL professional football,
the NFL. Football in America is unreasonably popular. It's ridiculous.
It affects entire industries. The grocery industry thrives when it's
(15:38):
NFL season. Did you know that we're obsessed with football?
And again, I am not judging, but the NFL discovered
something during the Saint George Floyd insanity, the Black Lives
Matter insanity in this country. What they discovered was they
can do anything, and they're hardcore fans will never leave. Ever,
(16:04):
they will never leave. And I realize some maybe you
did if there are going to be a few, but
they will never have a significant portion of their fan
base stop watching football. They can do Black Lives Matter rallies.
Drew Brees can put the name of a rapist on
his helmet. They can do the most despicable things in
a world, in the world, and even if you last
(16:27):
a week or two, you'll be back watching, buying jerseys,
go into the stadium cheering for your team. Well, when
that happens, they learn, well, hey, I can do whatever
I want. Why would you go hire some commie foreigner
to do the halftime show of the biggest TV show
(16:50):
in the world every year? Why well, you're not going anywhere.
The NFL is trying to go international, as all corporations are.
They're trying to bring in more of a fan base,
a worldwide and international fan base. American citizens have proven
they will never leave it. They will never leave it,
they will never forsake it. The NFL now knows after
(17:14):
George Floyd, they are invincible. Their p ones will endure
unending things and they'll still keep watching. They were taught
a lesson. And again I'm not judging.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I am not. I make mistakes too. I do bad
things too.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I shouldn't even call the mistakes. I do things I
shouldn't do too. I'm not telling you to turn off
the NFL either. I'm not. You live your life the
way you want go, enjoy your football. But this is
the result of that. The NFL learned they are invincible, untouchable.
They learn their lesson well, and now that's how they operate.
(17:53):
All right, I'm done with that. Let's go talk to J.
Michael Waller. Before we talk to J. Michael Waller, know
that there is an entire criminal world you can't see
and I can't see. It's this terrible online criminal world
where they're always looking to steal your data so they
(18:13):
can drain your bank account, destroy your credit, take out loans,
home loans in your name, basically destroy your financial life.
It sickens me that LifeLock has to exist, it really does.
I wish it was unnecessary, but we have to have
a firewall against this. Who will let us know when
they've stolen our data? Who will let us know when
(18:36):
they're draining your bank accounts, when they're taking out a
home loan in your name? And if the worst does happen,
who's going to make you whole? Who is out that LifeLock.
Lifelock's the one that's been doing this for years, in
years and years. They have the reviews they have for
a reason. I know the management of this company. I
(18:56):
have loved them for a long time before they ever
partnered with the show. I just adore them. I adore
their mission. Go. You can save up to forty percent
your first year at LifeLock dot com with the promo
code Jesse. Sign up before it happens, Before it happens
LifeLock dot com promo code Jesse or call one eight hundred.
(19:19):
Do LifeLock terms apply. We will be back to find
out more about how these terror sales work.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Hang on.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Mist dost catch up Jesse Kellyshow dot com.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Member you can email us.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. But enough of that
right now, because I want to get right to doctor
Michael Waller. He is the director of Strategy for the
Center for Security Policy, and for our purposes tonight, he
is going to explain well quite a few things about insurgency.
But I want to talk about this Armed Queers of
(20:03):
Salt Lake City breakdown, and I want to understand how
these organizations work, how these Antifa tear cells work. And
so doctor Waller, the floor is yours. Explain this insurgency
to us as best you can.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
An insurgency is an organization or a movement of that
works above ground legally and has an underground movement for
the purposes of committing crimes and violence and secret conspiracies.
So we're at that stage now in parts of our
country where authorities have let things get so far out
(20:39):
of control that you have a full blown insurgency, just
like the kind that they had in say El Salvador
forty years ago. It's a communist led It has a
lot of fellow travelers and useful idiots who don't know
what they're doing. And it has an above ground part
that you can see and an underground part that you
can't see.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, let's pause for a moment on where we are today.
If you wouldn't mind, I would like you to expand
quite a bit on what the heck happened in El
Salvador forty years ago, because most of us, most definitely
myself included, are stupid and don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, well, it was a huge thing back then. They
were trying to replicate a communist revolution like in South Vietnam,
which had just collapsed to the communists just a few
years earlier. So in America, the movement that had supported
our communist enemy fighting us in South Vietnam, they were
looking for other causes. So they had the Sandinista revolution
(21:39):
in Nicaragua, and then right after that a communist revolutionary
movement in El Salvador and the Sanctuary movement which came
out of that and brought us sanctuary cities here. So
the Salvador and insurgency, which was trained by the Cubans
and the East Germans and the Soviets developed four El Salvador.
But then they had spin offs to come up to
(22:01):
our country as as what as refugees as migrants, and
they were given sanctuary through sanctuary cities and a sanctuary
movement so that the federal authorities could not commit and
deport them back to Los Albergo. See the families and
civilian support structure of the communist guerrillas coming up to
(22:21):
Los Angeles and Boston and New York and elsewhere to
live permanently and then set up their own networks here.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Okay, again we're speaking with doctor Michael Waller, Center for
Security Policy. Okay, so where we are now? Break it
down for us. Where are we with these terror cells?
May how did they come to be? What kind of
makeup is there? How dangerous is this?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Please explain?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Well, there's an ancestry to all of this, so it's
not something new, So therefore it's not something hard for
our authorities to learn about. If only they had people
in the system who who were looking at underground communists
and anarchist groups. But the FBI was looking at you
and me, so they weren't paying attention. And really there's
almost no one left inside the bureau who understands this stuff.
(23:11):
So be that as it may, these groups have been
allowed literally free reign for decades. They got their inspiration
and their training, and their even the recruitment of their
cadres through a lot of the elderly now elderly nineteen
sixties radicals and nineteen seventies radicals tied in with the
(23:34):
Weather Underground. Say, you know the same folks who actually
had coached Barack Obama, you know Bill Ayers and Bernadine
dor to the Weather Underground. What did they do? They
got acceptable positions marching through the institutions as university professors
like Angela Davis and so many others at that time.
Then they recruited students, radicalize them. Now we're talking to
(23:57):
even on the third generation now of Rabi. So a
lot of these people get so alienated, like everything's fascist,
everything's not to everything's racist. Therefore we have to destroy them.
Imagine if we had a chance to kill Hitler before
he created the Third Reich, what a better world this
would be. So a lot of these people really believe
that they're fighting evil. They've been radicalized. The people in
(24:20):
control understand something quite different. They have an ideological cause,
which is to overthrow our constitution and to turn our
country into a communist regime. So they're using a lot
of people who don't know anything about history, a lot
of very well meaning people, and a lot of just
twisted six people who are just messed up in their
larger movement to destroy our society from within.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Doctor Waller, can you explain that we'll get back to
the actual cadres and the makeup of these people for
a moment. Can you explain for a moment what the violence?
How does it help them? Not just assassinations. You're blocking
ice facilities, You look like a freak. Surely this is
going to turn people against your movement. But they've been
(25:07):
using these tactics forever, so there has to be a point.
What is the point?
Speaker 5 (25:13):
There's a really important point to the violence, because violence
creates real solidarity. It's kind of like if you're in
military combat. You've got buddies who you're going through hell
with and you're going to do anything for one another,
even if you don't know them from before, and you're
always going to have a special identity with them, and
(25:34):
for the rest of your life, you're going to identify
with them first, So you have a certain kind of language,
certain kind of gestures where everybody kind of understands everybody
else at the expense of those who are not in
the know. So it creates the system of what the
communists called cadres. It's called cadre building, and these are
the foot soldiers of any revolutionary movement in the case
(25:56):
we're talking about here inside the country. So what the
violence does yere? First, you know, if you get into
any crowd mentality, or like you get into a good
a good concert, right, there are a lot of people
and it gets rowdy and you end up doing stuff
you ordinarily wouldn't do as an individual because it's wrong
and it's stupid, and it's whatever. It's constructive, but it
(26:17):
can be kind of fun when you're in it with
everybody else and you're part of it. If you're a
doup or you're just it's sort of dragged into it,
or even if you came in planning to do it,
it's cool, it's exciting. Now you've had an experience, so
the next time you go into this you're you're enthused
about it, and then people see uh huh. Who responded
best to this, who's most aggressive about this, who will
(26:38):
do as they're told without question, Who are some of
the natural leaders in this, And that's how they they
locate and identify and then end up recruiting hardcore radicals
into their movement. So if you look at the way
Antifa has been living up in Portland and Seattle and
so forth, living in tense, living in squalor living in
(26:58):
sort of commune where everybody shares everything and shares everybody's
experiences and lives a very hard life and very harsh
weather conditions and food conditions and health conditions. There's a
solidarity that breeds among them, just like Miles guerrillas did
in the mountains, and it's going to be an unbreakable solidarity.
So that's the purpose of the violence. The purpose of
(27:21):
the violence is also to give them a sense of empowerment.
If they can hold back the cops, if they can
get the governor of a state, not necessarily Oregon, but
a governor of a state or the president of the
United States to denounce them and to denounce their movement,
that makes it more important. That jazzes them up, and
(27:41):
then they get into a clash with cops National Guard, whatever.
It's really pretty cool if you're look at it from
their perspective, and now they think we are being repressed.
We have to fight this repression. This proves that they're
fascists who have come out after us because they're trying
to stop us from freeing the people of racism and oppression.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Doctor Weller, last question for you here, but please take
as much time as you need. How do we stop it?
Obviously the cancer has metastasized badly. These cells are everywhere.
What is the method to break it up? I understand
we may not have the expertise at the FBI right now,
but what should we be doing if we did well?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
First, the FBI and federal law enforcement needs to build
bad expertise, and there are plenty of people on the
outside who have it. Guys like Andy no On X,
you know, he's been through all of this. There are
a whole bunch of people like that who already know
this and how it works, and they're going to have
different opinions based on their different perspectives. So all of
these different folks are going to be very useful. Then
(28:44):
you have people on our side who've approached it from
the scholarly perspective, or they've been doing this like as
I had since the nineteen eighties when I was in
college we were collecting information on the left. We still
have all of that stuff people older had been collecting
since Vietnam. They're still around. They have a whole lot
of historic knowledge, even who was who and who was
(29:07):
doing what. In the pre digital age. You can collect
all that material, digitize it, build big databases of it
because it's all open source, and you can provide it
to journalists, to guys like you, to law enforcement, to
anybody who needs it, and help people become experts on it,
and especially help state and local law enforcement because they're
the people who need it most.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
He is, Doctor J. Michael Waller, absolutely wonderful. Please come
back and join us soon. Thank you for that bit
of education there. Anytime, this goes to what we've discussed before,
a bit of we may not have the horses left
because they captured the institutions, and that was part of
the reason they captured them, of course, so they could
(29:51):
reward their friends and punish their enemies.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
You and me.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Anyway, we'll come back. Well, do some more emails next
before we do some emails. Let's talk about free things. Generally,
free things are garbage. That's just a fact. We like free,
but it never works out that way. Hillsdale College is
the greatest free thing I've ever.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Seen in my life. Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I hate to spoil it for you know, you do
not get to attend Hillsdale College on campus for free,
and in fact, you probably can't get in. I most
definitely cannot. But we, all, all of us, we get
to get educated by Hillsdale College more than forty free
online courses. They give it out. They don't want just
(30:38):
Hillsdale's students to know about capitalism or the Constitution, or
Rome or the Book of Genesis, or they don't want that.
They want that for every single American citizen. And they
give it to us for free. Do this with yourself,
do this with your family, Do it in the car.
Spend an hour in the weekend. Hillsdale Die Edu slash Jesse.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday.
I remember you can email us, and you should. We
love your emails. Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com jesse
my problem with Trump from January sixth.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Oh, he's talking about on Friday.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
We did a long January sixth talk with the indictment
of Comy and the FBI whatnot. He says, how could
he not have known Democrats were going to arrange a
break in and make it look like Republicans did it.
I knew that was going to happen. Everyone should have known, says,
I can use his name. His name is Scott. Okay,
(31:45):
it's very fair to criticize Trump whenever you disagree with Trump.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
He's not your god. Okay, that's one.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But if I may, Trump has and I used to
be very hard on him because he wouldn't do this.
Trump has acknowledged, and he did it in my physical presence.
Donald Trump has acknowledged that he did not know how
DC operated, and he did not understand it when he
(32:14):
got there for his first four years. This sounds like
an excuse. Just stay with me for a second, though.
I'm going to tell you something, and you're not going
to believe it, especially if you're a huge Trump fan,
if you look up to him a great deal.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
The two thousand and sixteen version of Donald Trump who
walked into the White House. You had a better understanding
of politics, DC, Communists and the danger than he did.
(32:51):
Do you know that you knew more than he did?
And he would probably tell you that remember this for
all the good he's done and all the good he's doing.
Donald Trump was not a political person. He was a
New York businessman, a New York businessman who cut deals
(33:16):
with Democrats, donated the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Cut deals with Republicans. He's just a business guy. It's
on TV.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
He's a real estate guy. He got to Washington, d C.
And he got put through a four year crucible learning
just how evil these people are. This is what I
want to caution you against, because I tend to do
this too. We tend to think titles automatically come with
(33:46):
the knowledge that title should hold. Don't we think that
it's perfectly natural? Your doctor he knows a lot more
about medicine than you do. Right, Really did your doctor
tell your kid to take the COVID vat Your doctor knows.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Less than you do? Possibly, I don't mean your doctor specifically, well,
that general.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
He knows about logistics, he knows about tactic. Really, are
you sure do you think in the system we have now,
you get promoted only through merit, You get promoted because
you know, or you get promoted because of who you know.
And the exact same thing applies to our politicians. Surely,
(34:29):
my House representative, my senator. He knows how government works.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
What's real. Really, do you think that it applies to
the president too? Surely?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Donald Trump's president of the United States of America. He
understands how evil the Federal Bureau of Investigation is. He
understands everything about their history. He understands things like Waco
and Ruby Ridge and.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
All these other things. He knows all this right, No,
he didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
He was lost as a river duck for his first
four years. Conceptually he had the right ideas about a
lot of things. He knew deportations were good for securities.
Conceptually he was right. He's not a moron by any
stretch of the imagination, quite intelligent. But you knew more
than twenty sixteen Donald Trump did about the evil nature
(35:25):
of the communists. Now, in the year of our Lord
twenty twenty five, Trump is quite aware.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
He knows.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Now, once you've been shot, arrested, impeached twice. Now he
gets it once you've had your own FBI director. At
least the first one try to take you down and
the second one screw you over.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You're pretty aware of it.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Do you agree with the strategy of focusing on the
oath keepers and focusing on prosecuting that group.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Of individuals first.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
In order for it to be a deterrent.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
You've got to throw the net wide, get all of them,
both the organized groups, proud Boys, oathkeepers, but find everybody
who went into that building. Find them all again. Not
because of my concern that those people who committed a
misdemeanor are they're going to go into the community and reoffend.
The message has to be sent of zero tolerance. We
will find everyone and punish everyone who went in there
(36:19):
so that no one does it again. We will hunt
you to the end of the earth, even for a misdemeanor,
and make you pay for that. To send that message.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Do you think Donald Trump knew that January sixth was
the Reichstag fire the Communists used to hunt down their
political opponents and treat them like terrorists. Do you think
he knew that on January sixth? Of course he didn't.
Of course he didn't he was calling for Nancy Pelosi
(36:47):
to bring in the National Guard. Of course she didn't.
Wonder why she didn't. I wonder why. It almost seemed
like she wanted it to happen. Anyway, I understand what
you're saying, and that that was not an effort to
make excuses. There are some things that can't be excused.
Even naivete doesn't excuse it. But like the COVID response
(37:11):
of fifteen days to slow the spread, he has to
own that he always will. That sucked, but it is
what it is, all right. I'm finally going to get
to them using their power and things changing. Things are
slowly changing, and we should take heart and that. Before
we get to that, and emails and so much more,
(37:31):
I want to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
About your bed.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Your bed is where you spend a third of your life.
Do you and your spouse happen to sleep at different temperatures?
You're well aware that AB is cold all the time.
I am hot all the time. How in the world
do you select sheets? Cozy earth sheets, man cozy earth sheets.
(37:59):
They are the most comfort the freaking sheets in the
history of mankind. It's like they took their everywhere pants
and made them betting they're the most comfortable sheets ever.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
But they breathe.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
It's bamboo. I still don't understand how this miraculous grass,
and you know, bamboo's grass is somehow made into the
greatest sheets on the planet.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Get one set.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I'm not asking you to go buy five by one.
You'll buy more and save yourself a pile of money.
They'll let you sleep in them for one hundred nights
at no risk. That's confidence. Cozyearth dot com code Jesse saves.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You a bunch of money.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Don't forget to use the code Cozyarth dot com code Jesse.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
We'll be back.
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is a Jesse
Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday, another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show. We have an amazing hour for you.
It is just jam packed full of goodness. Of course,
Medal of Honor Monday's coming up. A minute from now.
(00:31):
We have j Michael Waller joining us. A half hour
from now, they're starting to do breakdowns of these Antifa
terrorist groups.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And he was.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Involved in things like communist revolutions in El Salvador. He's
just a wealth of knowledge and he's about to dump
that knowledge on us. About a half hour from now,
we'll talk more about these people using power, the religion
of conquest, Alvin Bragg let some New York woman go free?
Why did that happen? All that more coming up on
(01:03):
the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. But this moment is
dedicated to heroes, as it always is on Mondays Mondays.
Start of the second hour, it's Medal of Honor Monday
time on this show, always has been and always will be.
You can do this. I want to again encourage you.
I didn't do any of these things. I don't own this.
(01:25):
Everybody has access to every Medal of Honor citation that's
ever been earned. You can do this with your family,
with your class, with your team.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You can do it at work.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Read the names, read the deeds. It's not just good
and healthy for the country. It's interesting. It's like it's
like an action movie. And yes, of course we take
email recommendations. Love hey, death threats and recommendations. If there
are ones you love, like this one, Jesse, I absolutely
love your Medal of Honor Mondays. Try to listen to
(01:56):
them whatever my schedule permits. I just finished a book
about Chosen Reservoir and was amazed by the actions of
Medal of Honor recipient hector A Caferata Junior, and would
love to hear you relate his story to your audience. Well,
you've actually done this one once before, and as is
(02:17):
usually the case with these things, his citation is grossly
inadequate compared to what he did, and his citation is amazing.
So I'm going to start with a citation. Then I'll
add some more detail to it because they actually underserved
the man, and I'll explain.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Why that happened. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He was born in New York City in nineteen twenty nine.
United States Marine Corps. And this is what he did.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Right, hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. It's
Medal of Honor Monday.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
For conspicuous gallantry and in rapidity at the risk of
his life, above and beyond the call of duty, while
serving as a rifleman with Company F in action against
enemy aggressor forces. When all other members of his fire
team became casualties, creating a gap in the lines during
the initial phase of a vicious attack launched by a
(03:19):
fanatical enemy of regimental strength against his company's hill position,
Private Caferata waged a lone battle with grenades and rifle fire.
As the attack gained momentum. Momentum and the enemy threatened
penetration through the gap and endangered the integrity of the
entire defensive perimeter. Making a target of himself. Under devastating
(03:43):
fire from automatic weapons, rifles, grenades, and mortars, he moved
up and down the line and delivered accurate and effective
fire against the on rushing force, killing fifteen wounding many
more than forcing others to withdraw so that reinforcements could
move up and consolidate the position.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Fighting desperately against a renewed onslaught. Later that same morning,
when a hostile grenade landed in a shallow entrenchment occupied
by wounded marines, Private Caferata rushed into the gully under
heavy fire, seized the deadly missile in his right hand
and hurled it free of his comrades before it detonated,
(04:26):
severing part of one finger and seriously wounding him in
the right hand and arm. Courageously, ignoring the intense pain,
he staunchly fought on until he was struck by a
sniper's bullet and forced to submit to evacuation for medical treatment.
Stout hearted and indomitable, Private Caferata, by his fortitude, great
(04:47):
personal valor, and dauntless perseverance in the face of almost
certain death, saved the lives of several of his fellow
marines and contributed essentially to the success achieved by his
company in maintaining the defensive position against tremendous odds. His
extraordinary heroism throughout was in keeping with the highest traditions
(05:09):
of US Naval service. Now for the rest of the story,
or at least a bit of it. First of all,
he was an athlete, a world class football player. I
believe if memory serves me. He went semi pro football player,
big Dude. In fact, his nickname was Big Heck. That
(05:29):
was his nickname, Big Heck football player joins the Marine Corps.
Is kind of a problem child in the Marine Corps.
It's kind of a problem child, and those oftentimes are
the guys who earn these incredible medals. So he's got
a buddy with him this night. His comrade in arms
is a guy Kenneth Benson. Is his name, Private Kenneth Benson.
(05:53):
They are in their sleeping bags. Remember it is frigid cold. Now.
This took place at a place called Talk Tong Pass.
I don't expect that to mean anything to you. It
doesn't matter. Here's what you have to know. Our troops
were cut off at Chose at Chosen reservoir, or I
should say almost cut off.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
If we lost.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Control of Talk Tong Pass, our troops would be completely
cut off and we may have seen the annihilation of
thirty thousand troops. That's how severe the situation was. Big
He's company was essentially overlooking that pass. The Chinese troops
(06:34):
knew they had to take his position. What's in his
position about two hundred marines roughly, how many did the
Chinese send different estimates depending on what you read. Twelve
to fourteen hundred Chinese troops attack them because they had
to have the pass. Now you know how I told
(06:55):
you these guys were in their sleeping bags. Kenneth Benson,
his buddy had a grenade essentially believe it was a
grenade if memories sir as me explode, and it blinded him.
He no longer had the use of his eyes at
the beginning of this. But this little warrior, who should
have possibly earned the metal himself, did not quit, did
not give up. He spent the rest of the night
(07:19):
refilling magazines and handing magazines to Big Heck, who spent
his time shooting them, and his blind buddy is blindly
handing the magazines. The Chinese are chucking so many grenades
up at Big Heck during all this, he actually pulls
out his little mini shovel and starts swatting them back
at the Chinese like baseballs when they're chucking him at him.
(07:42):
I'm telling you, man that they could make an entire
movie out of this one part of Chosen Reservoir, and
it would win all kinds of awards, except you know,
they'd gave the whole thing up and ruin it all.
But it is an insane story, oh, in one tiny
little bit that maybe the biggest bit of it. You
know how I told you they were in their sleeping bags,
(08:03):
they didn't have time to put on their shoes. It's
ten to twenty below zero at least, and they are
standing in knee deep snow, and big Heck is taking
on waves of Chinese in his bare freaking feet for
hours at a time, hours at a time. So many
(08:28):
Marines died in this company. I told you it was
about two hundred. You know how many were left by morning?
About eighty. They're just dying in droves, and Heck is
just murdering the Chinese as fast as they can come
at him. You know, they said he killed fifteen. There
are estimates from multiple people.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That he killed a hundred of them.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
They did not report that number because they thought it
would not be believed. Now who knows what the exact
number is, But it was not fifteen. It was a lot.
He was in his bare feet by the time he
got back.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
They didn't know.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
If he was going to keep either of his feet,
and they did not know if he was going to live.
They shipped him back to America. His feet were like black.
They shipped him back to America. He had to undergo
treatment for a year and a half before he was upright,
kept his feet, kept his patriotism. I think he worked
for the Forest Service, if I remember right. Was always
(09:32):
a hardcore patriot and by the way, a super humble dude.
When they told him me to earn the Medal of Honor,
he asked him to mail it to him.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Can you just put that in the mail?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And they said, ah, no, no, no, you actually need
to come to Washington, d c.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And accept it.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Lived until two thy sixteen, died in the state of Florida.
Is buried, I believe. Don't quote me on this. I
haven't read his stuff in a while. I think he's
buried at Quantico, Virginia based Quantico, Virginia. Big heck man,
I'm telling you hid a lion, a lion who saved
a lot of lives and did not kill fifteen fifteen.
(10:11):
That's an appetizer for big heck. All right, we're going
to talk about what happened in corporate America. Well again,
touch on communists using power when they find it. I
want to touch on your dog. For that's I don't
want to. I wish I hadn't put that that way.
I want your dog to be healthier. I mean I
would pet your dog, probably unless he stinks. If you
(10:34):
want your dog to have a better coat and better
breast so he's less smelly. Your dog needs nutrition the
same way you need nutrition. Your dog has to have it.
We we bury our dogs too early, and it hurts.
I've buried so many, usually digging it myself, me and
(10:54):
my dad. Let Rough Greens keep your dog alive longer.
Roughgreens is America's number one dog supplement for a reason.
Live vitamins minerals your dog. You will see differences in
their energy. They're just better dogs, and they don't keel
over so early. There's no nutrition in your dog's food.
(11:18):
Get a free Jumpstart trial bag and sprinkle it on
your dog's food. Roughgreens dot Com promo code Jesse or
call them two one four Roughdog Promo code Jesse.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Miss something. There's a podcast, Get it on demand wherever
podcasts are found. It The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wild, amazing Monday,
only ten minutes away from Jmichael Waller.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm so excited about that.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
To learn more about these Antifa Terra Networks member, you
can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
If you missed any part of the show, you.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Can downloaded iHeart Spotify iTunes. I'm actually gonna pause really
quickly on them using power because I wanted to bring
up something. Apparently so many people are angry about it.
I know it's NFL season, and I know the NFL
is majorly popular, and I know you probably watch it.
I got all that the NFL came out and announced
somebody named Bad Bunny.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
No idea who that is.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Apparently he's going to be the halftime show. He's some
foreigner and he has a history of saying things like this.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Apparently I'm never performing in the US again.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'm scared, scared that I might.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Raid the venue outside my show, and honestly, I can
risk the safety of my fans like that. Mainland America
just doesn't feel necessary to me anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But I don't know who this person is.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I could not name a single song, and nor do
I care to find out. But let me let me
just address your rage for a moment, and believe me
when I tell you I am not scolding you for
still watching at all. I still do things that are bad.
I try not to. I still support companies I should.
I try not to. I'm trying to be better. So
(13:11):
I'm not lecturing at all. But there is something that
takes place now in all ways. So I'm gonna explain
what happened here. And actually I talked about this last
week when it comes to politics, but it very much
applies to companies, corporations. It really applies to so many things. Yeah,
you know what, I'll make it about the Jesse Kelly Show.
(13:32):
The Jesse Kelly Show has hardcore listeners. Every show does.
So I'm just gonna make it about me to make
it easier to understand. And the radio business I have
learned they call them p ones. Still no idea what
that means, but that's what they call.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
The most hardcore people.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Those are the people who don't miss a single minute
of any show. If they do, they'll download the podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You got the p ones.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
If my goal, and this is not my goal, but
if my goal was I want to be the biggest,
richest radio star in the history of the world. And
that is not my goal, which just not my thing,
as you know. But if that was my goal, then
here's how I might go about it. My p ones,
(14:13):
the hardcore listeners, maybe that's you. I want to keep you.
I have to keep you. But I also because my
goal is to be the biggest, richest ever, I need more.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I need more people in.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So how much can I stray from who I am
and what you like while still keeping you?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's the goal. The goal is can I moderate a
little here?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Maybe be less offensive there, be a little less honest
about this, only a little.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't. I don't want to push you away.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But how much can I flirt with the line of
pushing you away to bring in new people so that
I get to keep you and get more new people.
I used it in reference to politics before Republicans Democrats
they do this.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
How much can I.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Screw my base over in the general election, but not
screw them over so much they leave.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I need to screw them over a little.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Bring in some of the more squishes while not completely
betraying my base. Okay, this applies to more than just me.
It applies to more than politics. The NFL professional football,
the NFL. Football in America is unreasonably popular. It's ridiculous.
It affects entire industries. The grocery industry thrives when it's
(15:38):
NFL season. Did you know that we're obsessed with football?
And again, I am not judging, but the NFL discovered
something during the Saint George Floyd insanity, the Black Lives
Matter insanity in this country. What they discovered was they
can do anything, and they're hardcore fans will never leave. Ever,
(16:04):
they will never leave. And I realize some maybe you
did if there are going to be a few, but
they will never have a significant portion of their fan
base stop watching football. They can do Black Lives Matter rallies.
Drew Brees can put the name of a rapist on
his helmet. They can do the most despicable things in
a world, in the world, and even if you last
(16:27):
a week or two, you'll be back watching, buying jerseys,
go into the stadium cheering for your team. Well, when
that happens, they learn, well, hey, I can do whatever
I want. Why would you go hire some commie foreigner
to do the halftime show of the biggest TV show
(16:50):
in the world every year? Why well, you're not going anywhere.
The NFL is trying to go international, as all corporations are.
They're trying to bring in more of a fan base,
a worldwide and international fan base. American citizens have proven
they will never leave it. They will never leave it,
they will never forsake it. The NFL now knows after
(17:14):
George Floyd, they are invincible. Their p ones will endure
unending things and they'll still keep watching. They were taught
a lesson. And again I'm not judging.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I am not. I make mistakes too. I do bad
things too.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I shouldn't even call the mistakes. I do things I
shouldn't do too. I'm not telling you to turn off
the NFL either. I'm not. You live your life the
way you want go, enjoy your football. But this is
the result of that. The NFL learned they are invincible, untouchable.
They learn their lesson well, and now that's how they operate.
(17:53):
All right, I'm done with that. Let's go talk to J.
Michael Waller. Before we talk to J. Michael Waller, know
that there is an entire criminal world you can't see
and I can't see. It's this terrible online criminal world
where they're always looking to steal your data so they
(18:13):
can drain your bank account, destroy your credit, take out loans,
home loans in your name, basically destroy your financial life.
It sickens me that LifeLock has to exist, it really does.
I wish it was unnecessary, but we have to have
a firewall against this. Who will let us know when
they've stolen our data? Who will let us know when
(18:36):
they're draining your bank accounts, when they're taking out a
home loan in your name? And if the worst does happen,
who's going to make you whole? Who is out that LifeLock.
Lifelock's the one that's been doing this for years, in
years and years. They have the reviews they have for
a reason. I know the management of this company. I
(18:56):
have loved them for a long time before they ever
partnered with the show. I just adore them. I adore
their mission. Go. You can save up to forty percent
your first year at LifeLock dot com with the promo
code Jesse. Sign up before it happens, Before it happens
LifeLock dot com promo code Jesse or call one eight hundred.
(19:19):
Do LifeLock terms apply. We will be back to find
out more about how these terror sales work.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Hang on.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Mist dost catch up Jesse Kellyshow dot com.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Member you can email us.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. But enough of that
right now, because I want to get right to doctor
Michael Waller. He is the director of Strategy for the
Center for Security Policy, and for our purposes tonight, he
is going to explain well quite a few things about insurgency.
But I want to talk about this Armed Queers of
(20:03):
Salt Lake City breakdown, and I want to understand how
these organizations work, how these Antifa tear cells work. And
so doctor Waller, the floor is yours. Explain this insurgency
to us as best you can.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
An insurgency is an organization or a movement of that
works above ground legally and has an underground movement for
the purposes of committing crimes and violence and secret conspiracies.
So we're at that stage now in parts of our
country where authorities have let things get so far out
(20:39):
of control that you have a full blown insurgency, just
like the kind that they had in say El Salvador
forty years ago. It's a communist led It has a
lot of fellow travelers and useful idiots who don't know
what they're doing. And it has an above ground part
that you can see and an underground part that you
can't see.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, let's pause for a moment on where we are today.
If you wouldn't mind, I would like you to expand
quite a bit on what the heck happened in El
Salvador forty years ago, because most of us, most definitely
myself included, are stupid and don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, well, it was a huge thing back then. They
were trying to replicate a communist revolution like in South Vietnam,
which had just collapsed to the communists just a few
years earlier. So in America, the movement that had supported
our communist enemy fighting us in South Vietnam, they were
looking for other causes. So they had the Sandinista revolution
(21:39):
in Nicaragua, and then right after that a communist revolutionary
movement in El Salvador and the Sanctuary movement which came
out of that and brought us sanctuary cities here. So
the Salvador and insurgency, which was trained by the Cubans
and the East Germans and the Soviets developed four El Salvador.
But then they had spin offs to come up to
(22:01):
our country as as what as refugees as migrants, and
they were given sanctuary through sanctuary cities and a sanctuary
movement so that the federal authorities could not commit and
deport them back to Los Albergo. See the families and
civilian support structure of the communist guerrillas coming up to
(22:21):
Los Angeles and Boston and New York and elsewhere to
live permanently and then set up their own networks here.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Okay, again we're speaking with doctor Michael Waller, Center for
Security Policy. Okay, so where we are now? Break it
down for us. Where are we with these terror cells?
May how did they come to be? What kind of
makeup is there? How dangerous is this?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Please explain?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Well, there's an ancestry to all of this, so it's
not something new, So therefore it's not something hard for
our authorities to learn about. If only they had people
in the system who who were looking at underground communists
and anarchist groups. But the FBI was looking at you
and me, so they weren't paying attention. And really there's
almost no one left inside the bureau who understands this stuff.
(23:11):
So be that as it may, these groups have been
allowed literally free reign for decades. They got their inspiration
and their training, and their even the recruitment of their
cadres through a lot of the elderly now elderly nineteen
sixties radicals and nineteen seventies radicals tied in with the
(23:34):
Weather Underground. Say, you know the same folks who actually
had coached Barack Obama, you know Bill Ayers and Bernadine
dor to the Weather Underground. What did they do? They
got acceptable positions marching through the institutions as university professors
like Angela Davis and so many others at that time.
Then they recruited students, radicalize them. Now we're talking to
(23:57):
even on the third generation now of Rabi. So a
lot of these people get so alienated, like everything's fascist,
everything's not to everything's racist. Therefore we have to destroy them.
Imagine if we had a chance to kill Hitler before
he created the Third Reich, what a better world this
would be. So a lot of these people really believe
that they're fighting evil. They've been radicalized. The people in
(24:20):
control understand something quite different. They have an ideological cause,
which is to overthrow our constitution and to turn our
country into a communist regime. So they're using a lot
of people who don't know anything about history, a lot
of very well meaning people, and a lot of just
twisted six people who are just messed up in their
larger movement to destroy our society from within.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Doctor Waller, can you explain that we'll get back to
the actual cadres and the makeup of these people for
a moment. Can you explain for a moment what the violence?
How does it help them? Not just assassinations. You're blocking
ice facilities, You look like a freak. Surely this is
going to turn people against your movement. But they've been
(25:07):
using these tactics forever, so there has to be a point.
What is the point?
Speaker 5 (25:13):
There's a really important point to the violence, because violence
creates real solidarity. It's kind of like if you're in
military combat. You've got buddies who you're going through hell
with and you're going to do anything for one another,
even if you don't know them from before, and you're
always going to have a special identity with them, and
(25:34):
for the rest of your life, you're going to identify
with them first, So you have a certain kind of language,
certain kind of gestures where everybody kind of understands everybody
else at the expense of those who are not in
the know. So it creates the system of what the
communists called cadres. It's called cadre building, and these are
the foot soldiers of any revolutionary movement in the case
(25:56):
we're talking about here inside the country. So what the
violence does yere? First, you know, if you get into
any crowd mentality, or like you get into a good
a good concert, right, there are a lot of people
and it gets rowdy and you end up doing stuff
you ordinarily wouldn't do as an individual because it's wrong
and it's stupid, and it's whatever. It's constructive, but it
(26:17):
can be kind of fun when you're in it with
everybody else and you're part of it. If you're a
doup or you're just it's sort of dragged into it,
or even if you came in planning to do it,
it's cool, it's exciting. Now you've had an experience, so
the next time you go into this you're you're enthused
about it, and then people see uh huh. Who responded
best to this, who's most aggressive about this, who will
(26:38):
do as they're told without question, Who are some of
the natural leaders in this, And that's how they they
locate and identify and then end up recruiting hardcore radicals
into their movement. So if you look at the way
Antifa has been living up in Portland and Seattle and
so forth, living in tense, living in squalor living in
(26:58):
sort of commune where everybody shares everything and shares everybody's
experiences and lives a very hard life and very harsh
weather conditions and food conditions and health conditions. There's a
solidarity that breeds among them, just like Miles guerrillas did
in the mountains, and it's going to be an unbreakable solidarity.
So that's the purpose of the violence. The purpose of
(27:21):
the violence is also to give them a sense of empowerment.
If they can hold back the cops, if they can
get the governor of a state, not necessarily Oregon, but
a governor of a state or the president of the
United States to denounce them and to denounce their movement,
that makes it more important. That jazzes them up, and
(27:41):
then they get into a clash with cops National Guard, whatever.
It's really pretty cool if you're look at it from
their perspective, and now they think we are being repressed.
We have to fight this repression. This proves that they're
fascists who have come out after us because they're trying
to stop us from freeing the people of racism and oppression.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Doctor Weller, last question for you here, but please take
as much time as you need. How do we stop it?
Obviously the cancer has metastasized badly. These cells are everywhere.
What is the method to break it up? I understand
we may not have the expertise at the FBI right now,
but what should we be doing if we did well?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
First, the FBI and federal law enforcement needs to build
bad expertise, and there are plenty of people on the
outside who have it. Guys like Andy no On X,
you know, he's been through all of this. There are
a whole bunch of people like that who already know
this and how it works, and they're going to have
different opinions based on their different perspectives. So all of
these different folks are going to be very useful. Then
(28:44):
you have people on our side who've approached it from
the scholarly perspective, or they've been doing this like as
I had since the nineteen eighties when I was in
college we were collecting information on the left. We still
have all of that stuff people older had been collecting
since Vietnam. They're still around. They have a whole lot
of historic knowledge, even who was who and who was
(29:07):
doing what. In the pre digital age. You can collect
all that material, digitize it, build big databases of it
because it's all open source, and you can provide it
to journalists, to guys like you, to law enforcement, to
anybody who needs it, and help people become experts on it,
and especially help state and local law enforcement because they're
the people who need it most.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
He is, Doctor J. Michael Waller, absolutely wonderful. Please come
back and join us soon. Thank you for that bit
of education there. Anytime, this goes to what we've discussed before,
a bit of we may not have the horses left
because they captured the institutions, and that was part of
the reason they captured them, of course, so they could
(29:51):
reward their friends and punish their enemies.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
You and me.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Anyway, we'll come back. Well, do some more emails next
before we do some emails. Let's talk about free things. Generally,
free things are garbage. That's just a fact. We like free,
but it never works out that way. Hillsdale College is
the greatest free thing I've ever.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Seen in my life. Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I hate to spoil it for you know, you do
not get to attend Hillsdale College on campus for free,
and in fact, you probably can't get in. I most
definitely cannot. But we, all, all of us, we get
to get educated by Hillsdale College more than forty free
online courses. They give it out. They don't want just
(30:38):
Hillsdale's students to know about capitalism or the Constitution, or
Rome or the Book of Genesis, or they don't want that.
They want that for every single American citizen. And they
give it to us for free. Do this with yourself,
do this with your family, Do it in the car.
Spend an hour in the weekend. Hillsdale Die Edu slash Jesse.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday.
I remember you can email us, and you should. We
love your emails. Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com jesse
my problem with Trump from January sixth.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Oh, he's talking about on Friday.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
We did a long January sixth talk with the indictment
of Comy and the FBI whatnot. He says, how could
he not have known Democrats were going to arrange a
break in and make it look like Republicans did it.
I knew that was going to happen. Everyone should have known, says,
I can use his name. His name is Scott. Okay,
(31:45):
it's very fair to criticize Trump whenever you disagree with Trump.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
He's not your god. Okay, that's one.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But if I may, Trump has and I used to
be very hard on him because he wouldn't do this.
Trump has acknowledged, and he did it in my physical presence.
Donald Trump has acknowledged that he did not know how
DC operated, and he did not understand it when he
(32:14):
got there for his first four years. This sounds like
an excuse. Just stay with me for a second, though.
I'm going to tell you something, and you're not going
to believe it, especially if you're a huge Trump fan,
if you look up to him a great deal.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
The two thousand and sixteen version of Donald Trump who
walked into the White House. You had a better understanding
of politics, DC, Communists and the danger than he did.
(32:51):
Do you know that you knew more than he did?
And he would probably tell you that remember this for
all the good he's done and all the good he's doing.
Donald Trump was not a political person. He was a
New York businessman, a New York businessman who cut deals
(33:16):
with Democrats, donated the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Cut deals with Republicans. He's just a business guy. It's
on TV.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
He's a real estate guy. He got to Washington, d C.
And he got put through a four year crucible learning
just how evil these people are. This is what I
want to caution you against, because I tend to do
this too. We tend to think titles automatically come with
(33:46):
the knowledge that title should hold. Don't we think that
it's perfectly natural? Your doctor he knows a lot more
about medicine than you do. Right, Really did your doctor
tell your kid to take the COVID vat Your doctor knows.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Less than you do? Possibly, I don't mean your doctor specifically, well,
that general.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
He knows about logistics, he knows about tactic. Really, are
you sure do you think in the system we have now,
you get promoted only through merit, You get promoted because
you know, or you get promoted because of who you know.
And the exact same thing applies to our politicians. Surely,
(34:29):
my House representative, my senator. He knows how government works.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
What's real. Really, do you think that it applies to
the president too? Surely?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Donald Trump's president of the United States of America. He
understands how evil the Federal Bureau of Investigation is. He
understands everything about their history. He understands things like Waco
and Ruby Ridge and.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
All these other things. He knows all this right, No,
he didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
He was lost as a river duck for his first
four years. Conceptually he had the right ideas about a
lot of things. He knew deportations were good for securities.
Conceptually he was right. He's not a moron by any
stretch of the imagination, quite intelligent. But you knew more
than twenty sixteen Donald Trump did about the evil nature
(35:25):
of the communists. Now, in the year of our Lord
twenty twenty five, Trump is quite aware.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
He knows.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Now, once you've been shot, arrested, impeached twice. Now he
gets it once you've had your own FBI director. At
least the first one try to take you down and
the second one screw you over.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You're pretty aware of it.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Do you agree with the strategy of focusing on the
oath keepers and focusing on prosecuting that group.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Of individuals first.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
In order for it to be a deterrent.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
You've got to throw the net wide, get all of them,
both the organized groups, proud Boys, oathkeepers, but find everybody
who went into that building. Find them all again. Not
because of my concern that those people who committed a
misdemeanor are they're going to go into the community and reoffend.
The message has to be sent of zero tolerance. We
will find everyone and punish everyone who went in there
(36:19):
so that no one does it again. We will hunt
you to the end of the earth, even for a misdemeanor,
and make you pay for that. To send that message.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Do you think Donald Trump knew that January sixth was
the Reichstag fire the Communists used to hunt down their
political opponents and treat them like terrorists. Do you think
he knew that on January sixth? Of course he didn't.
Of course he didn't he was calling for Nancy Pelosi
(36:47):
to bring in the National Guard. Of course she didn't.
Wonder why she didn't. I wonder why. It almost seemed
like she wanted it to happen. Anyway, I understand what
you're saying, and that that was not an effort to
make excuses. There are some things that can't be excused.
Even naivete doesn't excuse it. But like the COVID response
(37:11):
of fifteen days to slow the spread, he has to
own that he always will. That sucked, but it is
what it is, all right. I'm finally going to get
to them using their power and things changing. Things are
slowly changing, and we should take heart and that. Before
we get to that, and emails and so much more,
(37:31):
I want to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
About your bed.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Your bed is where you spend a third of your life.
Do you and your spouse happen to sleep at different temperatures?
You're well aware that AB is cold all the time.
I am hot all the time. How in the world
do you select sheets? Cozy earth sheets, man cozy earth sheets.
(37:59):
They are the most comfort the freaking sheets in the
history of mankind. It's like they took their everywhere pants
and made them betting they're the most comfortable sheets ever.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
But they breathe.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
It's bamboo. I still don't understand how this miraculous grass,
and you know, bamboo's grass is somehow made into the
greatest sheets on the planet.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Get one set.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I'm not asking you to go buy five by one.
You'll buy more and save yourself a pile of money.
They'll let you sleep in them for one hundred nights
at no risk. That's confidence. Cozyearth dot com code Jesse saves.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You a bunch of money.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Don't forget to use the code Cozyarth dot com code Jesse.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
We'll be back.
Host
Jesse Kelly
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.