December 18, 2024 • 38 mins
Jesse does a deep dive into the history of the Philippine-American War. Why the Spanish wanted to Philippines. It was a horrible affair, guerrilla warfare, surprise ambushed and the Balangiga Massacre.
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I'm mad about all kinds of things. And I've been
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to do history for you new listeners on the show.
You should understand I am a history freak from time
to time. It's not all the time, it's not even
every week, but once every month. I'd say, I completely
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sidetrack the show, and I don't talk politics anymore. We'll
get some lessons from this, don't get me wrong. But
we talk about history, various stories. We've done them, more
things that I could possibly explain.
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We've done Roman.
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History and World War two and Genghis Khan, and we've
done European stuff. We've done South American stuff, Conquista doors.
We have been all over the map different periods of time.
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I love history.
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I despise how history is taught in American schools today.
Not universal at all. There are some wonderful history teachers
out there, but for the most part, In fact, I
ran into it headlong when I was researching to get
myself ready for this. Almost all history now and the
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textbooks that everything else is taught from an America sucks perspective.
It's off, it's putred. You can't just get an honest
view of it. I'm about to tell you again this
is for the new listeners. Everyone who's been listening knows this.
I'm not going to pull punches. Sometimes we look good,
sometimes we look bad, but we just have an honest
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accounting of history, and we tell a story and we
learn a bit about ourselves, humanity different periods of time.
So let's do it, shall we. I want you to
imagine something. I want you to imagine. You are far,
far from home. You wake up with all of your friends.
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You're all soldiers. It's hot, it's humid, it's been exhausting,
but you wake up and it's time to begin your
day with one of the few creature comforts that are
still allowed to you because life is still difficult.
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Food.
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It is time to eat, So you and all your buddies,
you grab your plates, you grab your cups, and you
get in a line, and you start walking down to
the mess hall where you're about to have breakfast. And
as you're walking down to the mess hall, there's a
little church there, and the church has bells on it,
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three bells, big bells, and dong dong, the bells start
going off. This is normal, happens every morning when you're
heading to breakfast at this time. Only as the bells
are going off, the church doors fly open. It's you,
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about forty of your buddies. You're looking at the church
doors flying open, and out of the church doors come
seventy to eighty men with machetes and knives, and they're
coming to kill all of you and your friends, and
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you are unarmed. We are gonna tell an American slash
Filipino history story today. We're gonna talk about the Philippine
American War.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Today.
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It's gonna be about us, it's gonna be about them.
It's gonna be about traditional armies versus guerrilla armies. It's
gonna evolve torture, death, politicians, all the normal things history
normally involves. But let's get all of us, myself included.
Let's get you prepped on the Philippines. First, and foremost
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first Philippines. That we're gonna go pre Spain. All right, Philippines.
They're important, and they have been important for a long, long, long,
long long time, and it's not necessarily because of the
natural resources. Go look at us again. This is always
a good thing to do when you're studying history. Look
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at a map. Just pull it up on your phone.
It really does help. It sounds stupid, I know it does.
It's not Look at a map. It'll tell you things.
Look at a map of the Philippines. Look where it is.
You see where China is, You got Australia, Japan's up there.
It is a supreme location right there. It's might as
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well be as far as oceans go, it might as
well be along a super highway. And if you really
zoom in, which you don't need to do that, but
if you really zoom in, you're welcome to You will
notice it's not exactly one gigantic land mass, and it's
not four or five six islands.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's not Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Philippines is thousands of islands, thousands of them. That's that's
what the Philippines was and is today. Obviously the islands
are still there and Before the Spanish got there, the
Philippines were.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And actually after the Spanish and kind of still are.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was not one homogeneous society, one homogeneous culture, one
homogeneous tribe. There were hundreds of different cultures and different
tribes there, hundreds of them, and radically radically different ones,
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more peaceful ones, more warlike ones, freaking cannibals, non cap
all over the place.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We make the mistake. I do it too.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
We oversimplify everything. Whenever we think of anything, we simplify
the people there when we uh China. China is a
good example of this. We talked we can talk about
the Chinese, Well he's Chinese, John, Do you have any
idea how many different cultures and subcultures there are in China? Now,
got all the minority ones worked up in a frenzy.
That's part of how he did his revolution. Not that
that could happen here. But Philippines. We look at everybody
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over there and they're small, and they have Asian features,
and they're kind of brown, and we say, well, that's Filipino. Oh,
look at those those people are Filipino, and I realized
it's a nation. Now that may be accurate, but Filipino
can mean a lot of different things. Okay, so it's
a bunch of different tribes. It was at a very
well is in a very very strategic location. You've heard
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of Magellan, haven't you. Obviously everyone's heard of Magellan. Magellan
is one of those explorers. He was Portuguese. I should note,
but this tends to happen. It certainly happened at Columbus.
He wanted to go exploring around the globe. He wanted
to figure out a way to sail around the globe,
and Portuguese.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Wouldn't help him.
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So he went to Spain, and Spain did. Spain was
always Spain was big back in the day. Spain was
always looking for a new way, new routes, new trade routes,
new new resources in Spain said yes, mister Jellen, you can.
And Magellan during his travels, well towards the end of
his travels, Hint finds himself in the Philippines. He's a
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very brave man. He doesn't make it out alive. Magellan,
he makes friends with one of the tribes and decides,
as a show of force, he is going to unite
with that tribe against another tribe, and they're going to
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defeat that other tribe. He grossly underestimated things like the
coral reefs around the Philippines. You would think Magellan would
be better with the boat, but he grossly underestimated some
things about the Philippines. Magellan, as brave as he was,
he died in ugly death, gets hit with a poison arrow,
but doesn't die.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He is sick.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
His men are pulling back. He's in the water way,
steep water, and the last his men saw of Himagellen
was being surrounded by the enemy tribe he was trying
to wipe out, where he was stabbed and beaten to
death in the water. Magellan had an ugly, ugly end,
and men lived to tell the tale. And that turned
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out to be very bad for the people of the
Philippines because those men who lived to tell the tale,
they were part of a Spanish expedition, as I noted,
and they went back and told Spain, Hey, Magellan got
beaten to death in this little place the Philippines. What
do you think about that? And Spain was upset, and really,
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to be honest, Spain recognized, because all this stuff is
just being mapped out, Spain recognized, Hey, this place one
they killed Magellan. Two, we should be there if we
took the Philippines. Think how easy trade would be with
China if we took over the Philippines. Member, when I
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told you to look at them mount look at the
I'm at Philippines. China's right there. What if we just
took the Philippines. And this was during the colonial era
where countries like the Netherlands, Spain, England, and France. These
countries were sailing around the globe discovering lands that were
occupied by tribal peoples and using their power to conquer
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said tribal peoples. And Spain took a like into the
Philippines and in they moved. And our story will continue
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that right now. We're doing a little history. Philippine American War,
not something that is very well known. So I just
gave you a little bit of background why the Spanish
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wanted the Philippines to begin with Filipinos ended up beating
Magellan to death. That was an ideal. Plus, the place
was a good location. The Spanish move in. Now it's
not really a story about Spain and the Philippines, but
this will apply to our story the Spanish when they
moved in. We all talk about colonial powers and colonization,
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and it's always demonized, but everybody did it differently. There
weren't identical types of colonization. Some nations believed in the
complete ruthless subjugation of everyone who was there. Just enslave everybody, genocide,
whatever you want. Some wanted to be as nice about
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it as they possibly it could be while still really
moving in. That was, honestly, the British really did a
lot of that. The British were more prone to move in.
I know they did bad things too, but Spain. Spain
wanted first and foremost to convert everyone to Catholicism.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
If you've ever.
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Been to the Philippines or seen pictures of the Philippines,
or maybe you wondered why I opened up this show
talking about church bells and how those could get there.
Spain brought Catholicism to the Philippines. Now, it wasn't a
gentle conversion process by any.
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Strench of the imagination.
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I don't want to act like they were just all
the Apostle Paul walking in there.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It was a little little rough around.
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The edges, to put it mildly, but Spain wanted to
bring Catholicism, and Spain did bring brutality there. Not all
the time they were building roads, they were modernizing the Philippines,
but they were also doing things like they would take
every man in the Philippines and they would say say, hey,
for forty days a year, you belong to us. And
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for forty days a year they would make them slaves
for lack of a better way to put it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And they be clearing.
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Out roads and building things, using the population that was
there to build a more Spanish looking version of the
Philippines than it was. The Filipino people are proud, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I should probably.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Let you know my bias before we continue on. I'm
a bit of a fan of Filipinos. I have a
few friends that are Filipinos. They are generally tough as nails,
they're enjoyable to be around. Just my experience with Filipinos
has been really quite wonderful. Yes, Chris Good parties. Good food,
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actually good food. The chicks are dimes, right. I like Filipinos.
I like Filipinos a lot, so let me put that
out there. But they're also tough people, as I mentioned,
and they're not going to take something like Spanish subjugation
lying down. They began to fight back, they begin to rebel.
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They're always rebelling here and rebelling there, rebelling here and
rebelling there. Finally, in eighteen ninety six, this is about
to bring us to our story here, the Philippine American War.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
There is a huge revolt.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And you know, I don't give you a lot of
names and dates because details ruined a story. But there
is a name. It's one of the few I'm going
to give you today. That is you're going to need
to remember it. His name was Emilio Aginaldo. Emilio Aginaldo.
Don't worry about memorizing it, but you should know. He
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was one of the Philippine rebels who was going hot
and heavy against the Spanish. He was leading a revolt.
He is a rich kid. His family lived on a
mansion or in a mansion in the Philippine. But historically
he is revered in the Philippines. You can find all
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kinds of alternate histories that question his motivations.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I won't do that. I don't know him.
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Maybe he was the devil, maybe he was a lion,
I don't know. But he was the leader of the revolt.
And in eighteen ninety six the rebels the Filipinos lose.
It's not a complete disaster for them, though, however, because
Spain found itself in a big problem by this point.
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By the late eighteen hundreds, the Spanish Empire was coming
apart everywhere on the planet. They were having huge problems
in Cuba, and that's.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Going to have a huge part in our story.
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Spain they didn't have time, energy, the money, or the
troops to be dealing with a Filipino revolt. So it
ends up with a negotiated peace. Now the Filipinos are
still being subjugated, they're still under the Spanish. They get
some reforms out of the deal, though life's alone better. Hey,
no more slavery, right, guys. But part of the deal
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was this Emilio Aginaldo character. He needs to leave, not
put to death, but he needs to leave. So he
gets sent away from the Philippines. Now that brings us
to America and how we got involved in this entire thing.
The Spanish American War is talked about. You probably don't
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know a ton about it. Most people don't. I'm not
an expert on it either. I don't want to act
like well I do when you don't. But it's just
not talked about that much. It was fought in Cuba,
not in Spain. Cuba was an extremely important hub for
us for our business interests. Spain controlled Cuba. We didn't
like how they were controlling things. We end up with
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one of our ships, the Main, ends up going down
there to monitor things, and the Main ends up exploding.
No one knows who did it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
To this day.
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Some say we did it to ourselves, some say the
Spanish did it. Some say the rebels did it on
the Eye Island. Some say it was a mechanical failure.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
We'll never know ever, ever, ever, But it was used.
The explosion of the Main was used as a justification
for us to go to war against the Spanish in Cuba,
and go to war we did. That would be the
Spanish American War. And we will continue our story in
just a moment, because it takes us right back to
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Does he think so? Yeah? The Jesse Kelly Show.
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. We're
not talking politics right now. If you just stumbled in,
you stumbled into the middle of a history story talking
about the Philippine American War, which we actually haven't quite
gotten to yet.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's been a little bit of a lead up.
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The Spanish American War just kicked off in Cuba. Oh
that's not good. Well, we ended up kicking the crap
out of them. We had to do some heavy fighting
over there, no question about it. But in Cuba that's
where it was fought. But remember I said Spain, it
was a big empire at least at one point in time.
Remember they had the Philippines. You know what else they
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had in the Philippines, some ships, some of their navy
was in the Philippines. America got concerned. We were concerned
that those ships they had in the Philippines would start
making their way across the ocean over to Cuba and
join the fight against America. And we wanted to make
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sure that could not happen. So we picked up the
telephone as such as they were back in the day,
and we got a hold of Dewey, Admiral Dewey. He
was our guy, Emerald Dewey. Don't worry about remembering his name.
Although he was a legend after this. But Admiral Dewey,
we say, hey, Dewey, you've got some ships over there
in that area. Would you kindly take your ships and
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head to the Philippines and destroy or at least contain
the Spanish fleet in the Philippines. Dewey says, I am
on my way. Dewey and his ships. We take off.
We get to the Philippines. Dewey has nine ships. He
comes across sixteen Spanish ships. Now, let's just modernize this
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really quickly.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Here. We've had this talk before.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
About navies, modern navies, and you know how against a
a bloated defense budget. I am and all the waste
and things like that, But remember what I've said many, many,
many times before. There are two branches. They're the two
I make fun of the most. But there are two
branches who must always be on the cutting edge. The
Navy and the air force, the army, the Marines. Look,
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you can always find man and train them up to
do ground combat. It may take time. I get that
you're gonna need veterans to train them. I get that
you cannot if a war kicks off tomorrow with China,
you cannot just modernize the navy. It takes too long
to design, to build, it takes too long. Same thing
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with the air force. You can't kick off a war
with Russia and then find yourself at a disadvantage because
you're gonna get wiped out of the skies, wiped out
of the skies. It has always been this way when
it comes to navies. It's just how that kind of
warfare works. If you have the better ships, the superior technology,
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if you have technologically advanced beyond the enemy, it's not
just that you'll win, you will likely dominate. We had
nine ships, they had sixteen ships. We sailed in and
wiped ten of their ships off the water. Do you
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know what, We lost one sailor, not even one ship.
We lost one sailor. We stormed into the Philippines and
crushed the Spanish.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Now, remember that.
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Filipino who was leading the revolution, Emilio Aginaldo was his name.
Remember how I told you he'd been exiled, He had
been removed from the Philippines. We thought we were going
to have to fight the Spanish well in some sort
of a significant fashion, in the Philippines as well. So
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we grabbed Emilio Aginaldo and We brought him back to
the Philippines and said, hey, Emilio, go get all your
friends and let's fight these Spanish together. Emilio gets out
on the Philippines. He goes and gets all his rebels,
thousands of them, twenty thirty thousand. You can never get
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accurate numbers, but it was twenty thirty thousand of them,
and they march on Manila. Now we we had already
brought We were bringing ten thousand troops in ourselves. We
brought ten thousand troops over there, getting ready to square
off against the Spanish. Now I want you to picture this.
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There's Manila. You don't have to worry about where it is,
although maps always help, as I said, And on the
outskirts of Manila, you have the Filipino rebels.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And you have us. But keep this in mind.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
We are separate from the Filipino rebels. We are not
fighting together. We're on kind of the same side. We
are on the same side. We're all there to defeat
the Spanish, right, but we are not fighting together. We
are not working together. Now, if you're the Filipinos, what
are you thinking right now? This is wonderful. We are
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going to fight this revolution. The Americans are here to
help us fight the revolution and finally liberate us from
the Spanish who have dominated us forever. If you're an American,
you may not be thinking about this the exact same
way we are all around Manila. The Spanish American war
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does not go well for Spain, and the Spanish in
Manila now have a serious problem. Spanish honor, Spanish pride
is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Then and now.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
They did not want to just surrender. They didn't want
to be seen as just giving away the Philippines, just
giving back Manila and the Spanish because of how they
had treated the Filipinos during their occupation of the Philippines.
The Spanish were understandably concerned about how they would be
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treated if they turned themselves into the Philippines. So what
happens next is controversial, but it is fairly widely accepted
that what happened next was a sham battle that was
agreed upon between the Spanish and Americans. We, without coordinating
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with the Filipinos, we attacked the Philippines. We attacked them
in their fortress, and there was this loud battle, all
kinds of gunfire. Whoa but really not many people got hurt,
and the Spanish surrendered, like five minutes after the battle began,
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they surrendered to the Americans.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's fairly widely.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Accepted today that there was an agreement struck beforehand that
the Spanish could kind of fight a half battle and
then just turn themselves into the Americans and hand Manila
and control of the Filipinos over to an America. And
that's exactly what they did. Now we Americans have officially
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marched into Manila. The Spanish have been defeated, although the
treaties not finalized yet.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Hang on on that.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
We're gonna get to that's an important part of the story,
the win on that. But we have defeated the Spanish
in Manila. The American troops have taken it. It belongs
to us. At which point in time, the Filipinos who
are parked outside of Manila say, wow, thanks guys, that
was helpful.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So what are you leaving?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You guys are gonna you are gonna leave right and Americans,
we said no, not right now, We're not. In fact,
not only are we not going to leave you, Filipinos
are not allowed inside of Manila. Not all Filipinos. Remember
the rebel group that was outside the rebel army. We
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told them you we were not allowed to come in
to Manila. Right now, Manila has been surrendered to us.
It is currently under our protection and we are trying
to figure out exactly what we're going to do from here.
And this, as you can imagine, did not go over
all that well with the Filipinos who thought they were
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about to be liberated of any colonial powers. Now let's
pause on that because we have to go back home
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my hands are. Back to our story in case you're
just now joining us, We're telling a story about the
Philippine American War, not very well known. We have just
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defeated the Spanish in what was pretty much a sham
battle for Manila. In the Philippines, the American army has
taken it. The Filipino army of rebels is outside of it.
We have banned them from coming into Manila. They thought
they were getting it back. We are now holding it. Now,
let's go back home. This is if you ever if
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you ever read history, you've heard me lament this a
lot about how all these history teachers, all these professors,
all these history books, they always present America as being evil,
all evil, all genocidal, all horrible, all this, and that
America is not so simple either, nothing simple back home
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in America, Americans were trying to figure out what we
should be doing, what's okay, what's not okay in the Philippines,
in Cuba, what kind of country did we want to be?
We saw ourselves as being better than the English, better
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than Spanish. We're going to do things the right way.
And even there there were arguments back and forth. There
were all kinds of American politicians. You can go read
about the arguments in the Senate at the time very divided.
There were senators who said, hey, these Filipinos why don't
we help them, Why don't we stay there, Why don't
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we build schools, Why don't we make the place more modern?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Why don't why don't we help them out?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And then there were other senators who said, no, that's crazy,
that would make us just like the Spanish. We need
to be nice, we should leave, we should give it back.
It was a huge argument at the time. Now, remember
when I told you the treaty had not been signed yet,
the war had not officially ended.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
The Spanish American War.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, one night in Manila, it pops off, as it
normally does when tensions are high, Filipino soldier approaches the
American lines. These stories on what happened next are going
to depend on what you read. If you read any
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Filipino sources, which I read and watched many preparing for this,
they will every one of them to a man, and
they may be accurate. Say the guy didn't understand the
cause of halt because the American troops were saying, halt,
don't come any closers, halt stop, And all the Filipino
sources say, this poor innocent guy didn't understand the cause
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of halt. If you read some others and these are
very hard to find. These virtually every source tries to
make us look like the devil. There are other sources,
and in fact, I'm one of these that has a
very hard time believing you need to understand English to
know what halt means a soldier. If you could put
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me anywhere, you know, I only speak three languages, English, Mexican,
and some European. So if you were to put me
in China and I was walking towards the lines of
soldiers and they were telling me to stop in Mandarin.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I'm not the smartest person.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
To put it mildly, I'm pretty sure I would understand
exactly what they're saying. It's not difficult to figure out
when a group of soldiers you're walking towards want you
to stop walking towards them.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
The Filipidos to.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
This day will claim he had no idea he was
out handing out bibles. I have a hard time believe
in that. But again, this is majoring on the miner.
Whatever happens there, the shooting starts. Now.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
People are dying.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Now, Filipinos are attacking Americans, and Americans are attacking Filipinos.
But for the purpose of our treaty. All that American
politicians know is, hey, we were just arguing back and
forth about what to do with these Filipinos. Now that
American troops are dead. Now that place is ours, we
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have no choice. We were at the Treaty of Paris.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
We were dealing with it. It was called the Treaty.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Of Paris, and we were settling this whole thing and
American troops, our guys get word, American troops are dying.
It sealed the deal for the Philippines. We told the Spanish,
we actually bought it from them. We didn't just take
it either, we could have, we actually bought it from
We told the Spanish, we said, hey, we want the Philippines.
We just give you some money for it too. And
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the Spanish, who were off way done with the place, said, yep,
it's all yours. Treaty at Paris is signed Spanish. American
war is over, and now America is in the Philippines.
And now momentum is just one of those things. As
we've talked about many times before, it's hard to quantify,
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it's hard to explain, but it's obvious when you see it. Now,
all the momentum is going towards violence. They are upset,
and they are understandably upset. We are upset. We are
understandably upset, and the fighting begins. Now, this is something
if you're an American listening to the sound of my voice,
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you should feel proud of this aspect, even if you
don't like this American history story. We're really good at fighting,
and we have been since our inception. Americans are good soldiers.
We are good. We're just good with it. Why because
we love guns. Our love of guns and our affinity
for guns is in grained in US. The Second Amendment
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was put over two hundred years ago. We have always
loved guns, and when you have a culture of people
who love guns, then you're naturally going to be better
at fighting with guns. Plus, we were more organized, better trained,
better equipment, more ammunition. When the fighting begins between us
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and Emilio Aginaldo and the Philippine rebels, we are beating
the living crap out of them. When they try to
square off against us. You know, these kind of large
pitch battle type things. You're just and this is a
very common tale throughout American history. You square off against Americans,
you better be ready to rumble. Even if you know Vietnam.
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Vietnam didn't end well for us. We hardly ever lost
a battle in Vietnam, when whenever there was a battle,
we beat the crap out of everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You don't want it. You want to trade gun, you
want trade bullets.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You don't want to do it with Americans. Okay, so
we start beating the Filipinos were running into a couple
different issues though. One, the heat is a huge problem. Again,
it's the tropics. Two, America was not at all totally
unified behind this war. It wasn't just the politicians. There
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were a lot of Americans who were very uncomfortable watching
an American army conquer a foreign land. For a lot
of Americans, it looked like we were becoming the people
we supposedly hated. Remember, we earned our country by rejecting,
by rebelling against the colonial power.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
We didn't want to be that.
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This is a Jesse Kelly show.
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show. And it is time to drive the
show right off of a bridge, because I am tired
of the news right now.
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It's almost Christmas time.
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I'm mad about the cr I'm mad about the border.
I'm mad about all kinds of things. And I've been
nerding out on a particular subject. And we are about
to do history for you new listeners on the show.
You should understand I am a history freak from time
to time. It's not all the time, it's not even
every week, but once every month. I'd say, I completely
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sidetrack the show, and I don't talk politics anymore. We'll
get some lessons from this, don't get me wrong. But
we talk about history, various stories. We've done them, more
things that I could possibly explain.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We've done Roman.
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History and World War two and Genghis Khan, and we've
done European stuff. We've done South American stuff, Conquista doors.
We have been all over the map different periods of time.
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I love history.
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I despise how history is taught in American schools today.
Not universal at all. There are some wonderful history teachers
out there, but for the most part, In fact, I
ran into it headlong when I was researching to get
myself ready for this. Almost all history now and the
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textbooks that everything else is taught from an America sucks perspective.
It's off, it's putred. You can't just get an honest
view of it. I'm about to tell you again this
is for the new listeners. Everyone who's been listening knows this.
I'm not going to pull punches. Sometimes we look good,
sometimes we look bad, but we just have an honest
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accounting of history, and we tell a story and we
learn a bit about ourselves, humanity different periods of time.
So let's do it, shall we. I want you to
imagine something. I want you to imagine. You are far,
far from home. You wake up with all of your friends.
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You're all soldiers. It's hot, it's humid, it's been exhausting,
but you wake up and it's time to begin your
day with one of the few creature comforts that are
still allowed to you because life is still difficult.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Food.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It is time to eat, So you and all your buddies,
you grab your plates, you grab your cups, and you
get in a line, and you start walking down to
the mess hall where you're about to have breakfast. And
as you're walking down to the mess hall, there's a
little church there, and the church has bells on it,
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three bells, big bells, and dong dong, the bells start
going off. This is normal, happens every morning when you're
heading to breakfast at this time. Only as the bells
are going off, the church doors fly open. It's you,
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about forty of your buddies. You're looking at the church
doors flying open, and out of the church doors come
seventy to eighty men with machetes and knives, and they're
coming to kill all of you and your friends, and
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you are unarmed. We are gonna tell an American slash
Filipino history story today. We're gonna talk about the Philippine
American War.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Today.
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It's gonna be about us, it's gonna be about them.
It's gonna be about traditional armies versus guerrilla armies. It's
gonna evolve torture, death, politicians, all the normal things history
normally involves. But let's get all of us, myself included.
Let's get you prepped on the Philippines. First, and foremost
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first Philippines. That we're gonna go pre Spain. All right, Philippines.
They're important, and they have been important for a long, long, long,
long long time, and it's not necessarily because of the
natural resources. Go look at us again. This is always
a good thing to do when you're studying history. Look
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at a map. Just pull it up on your phone.
It really does help. It sounds stupid, I know it does.
It's not Look at a map. It'll tell you things.
Look at a map of the Philippines. Look where it is.
You see where China is, You got Australia, Japan's up there.
It is a supreme location right there. It's might as
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well be as far as oceans go, it might as
well be along a super highway. And if you really
zoom in, which you don't need to do that, but
if you really zoom in, you're welcome to You will
notice it's not exactly one gigantic land mass, and it's
not four or five six islands.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's not Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Philippines is thousands of islands, thousands of them. That's that's
what the Philippines was and is today. Obviously the islands
are still there and Before the Spanish got there, the
Philippines were.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And actually after the Spanish and kind of still are.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was not one homogeneous society, one homogeneous culture, one
homogeneous tribe. There were hundreds of different cultures and different
tribes there, hundreds of them, and radically radically different ones,
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more peaceful ones, more warlike ones, freaking cannibals, non cap
all over the place.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We make the mistake. I do it too.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
We oversimplify everything. Whenever we think of anything, we simplify
the people there when we uh China. China is a
good example of this. We talked we can talk about
the Chinese, Well he's Chinese, John, Do you have any
idea how many different cultures and subcultures there are in China? Now,
got all the minority ones worked up in a frenzy.
That's part of how he did his revolution. Not that
that could happen here. But Philippines. We look at everybody
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over there and they're small, and they have Asian features,
and they're kind of brown, and we say, well, that's Filipino. Oh,
look at those those people are Filipino, and I realized
it's a nation. Now that may be accurate, but Filipino
can mean a lot of different things. Okay, so it's
a bunch of different tribes. It was at a very
well is in a very very strategic location. You've heard
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of Magellan, haven't you. Obviously everyone's heard of Magellan. Magellan
is one of those explorers. He was Portuguese. I should note,
but this tends to happen. It certainly happened at Columbus.
He wanted to go exploring around the globe. He wanted
to figure out a way to sail around the globe,
and Portuguese.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Wouldn't help him.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So he went to Spain, and Spain did. Spain was
always Spain was big back in the day. Spain was
always looking for a new way, new routes, new trade routes,
new new resources in Spain said yes, mister Jellen, you can.
And Magellan during his travels, well towards the end of
his travels, Hint finds himself in the Philippines. He's a
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very brave man. He doesn't make it out alive. Magellan,
he makes friends with one of the tribes and decides,
as a show of force, he is going to unite
with that tribe against another tribe, and they're going to
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defeat that other tribe. He grossly underestimated things like the
coral reefs around the Philippines. You would think Magellan would
be better with the boat, but he grossly underestimated some
things about the Philippines. Magellan, as brave as he was,
he died in ugly death, gets hit with a poison arrow,
but doesn't die.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He is sick.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
His men are pulling back. He's in the water way,
steep water, and the last his men saw of Himagellen
was being surrounded by the enemy tribe he was trying
to wipe out, where he was stabbed and beaten to
death in the water. Magellan had an ugly, ugly end,
and men lived to tell the tale. And that turned
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out to be very bad for the people of the
Philippines because those men who lived to tell the tale,
they were part of a Spanish expedition, as I noted,
and they went back and told Spain, Hey, Magellan got
beaten to death in this little place the Philippines. What
do you think about that? And Spain was upset, and really,
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to be honest, Spain recognized, because all this stuff is
just being mapped out, Spain recognized, Hey, this place one
they killed Magellan. Two, we should be there if we
took the Philippines. Think how easy trade would be with
China if we took over the Philippines. Member, when I
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told you to look at them mount look at the
I'm at Philippines. China's right there. What if we just
took the Philippines. And this was during the colonial era
where countries like the Netherlands, Spain, England, and France. These
countries were sailing around the globe discovering lands that were
occupied by tribal peoples and using their power to conquer
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said tribal peoples. And Spain took a like into the
Philippines and in they moved. And our story will continue
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The Jesse Kelly Show.
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It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. If
you missed the first hour where I was talking politics,
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that right now. We're doing a little history. Philippine American War,
not something that is very well known. So I just
gave you a little bit of background why the Spanish
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wanted the Philippines to begin with Filipinos ended up beating
Magellan to death. That was an ideal. Plus, the place
was a good location. The Spanish move in. Now it's
not really a story about Spain and the Philippines, but
this will apply to our story the Spanish when they
moved in. We all talk about colonial powers and colonization,
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and it's always demonized, but everybody did it differently. There
weren't identical types of colonization. Some nations believed in the
complete ruthless subjugation of everyone who was there. Just enslave everybody, genocide,
whatever you want. Some wanted to be as nice about
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it as they possibly it could be while still really
moving in. That was, honestly, the British really did a
lot of that. The British were more prone to move in.
I know they did bad things too, but Spain. Spain
wanted first and foremost to convert everyone to Catholicism.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
If you've ever.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Been to the Philippines or seen pictures of the Philippines,
or maybe you wondered why I opened up this show
talking about church bells and how those could get there.
Spain brought Catholicism to the Philippines. Now, it wasn't a
gentle conversion process by any.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Strench of the imagination.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I don't want to act like they were just all
the Apostle Paul walking in there.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It was a little little rough around.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
The edges, to put it mildly, but Spain wanted to
bring Catholicism, and Spain did bring brutality there. Not all
the time they were building roads, they were modernizing the Philippines,
but they were also doing things like they would take
every man in the Philippines and they would say say, hey,
for forty days a year, you belong to us. And
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for forty days a year they would make them slaves
for lack of a better way to put it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And they be clearing.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Out roads and building things, using the population that was
there to build a more Spanish looking version of the
Philippines than it was. The Filipino people are proud, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I should probably.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Let you know my bias before we continue on. I'm
a bit of a fan of Filipinos. I have a
few friends that are Filipinos. They are generally tough as nails,
they're enjoyable to be around. Just my experience with Filipinos
has been really quite wonderful. Yes, Chris Good parties. Good food,
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actually good food. The chicks are dimes, right. I like Filipinos.
I like Filipinos a lot, so let me put that
out there. But they're also tough people, as I mentioned,
and they're not going to take something like Spanish subjugation
lying down. They began to fight back, they begin to rebel.
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They're always rebelling here and rebelling there, rebelling here and
rebelling there. Finally, in eighteen ninety six, this is about
to bring us to our story here, the Philippine American War.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
There is a huge revolt.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And you know, I don't give you a lot of
names and dates because details ruined a story. But there
is a name. It's one of the few I'm going
to give you today. That is you're going to need
to remember it. His name was Emilio Aginaldo. Emilio Aginaldo.
Don't worry about memorizing it, but you should know. He
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was one of the Philippine rebels who was going hot
and heavy against the Spanish. He was leading a revolt.
He is a rich kid. His family lived on a
mansion or in a mansion in the Philippine. But historically
he is revered in the Philippines. You can find all
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kinds of alternate histories that question his motivations.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I won't do that. I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Maybe he was the devil, maybe he was a lion,
I don't know. But he was the leader of the revolt.
And in eighteen ninety six the rebels the Filipinos lose.
It's not a complete disaster for them, though, however, because
Spain found itself in a big problem by this point.
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By the late eighteen hundreds, the Spanish Empire was coming
apart everywhere on the planet. They were having huge problems
in Cuba, and that's.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Going to have a huge part in our story.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Spain they didn't have time, energy, the money, or the
troops to be dealing with a Filipino revolt. So it
ends up with a negotiated peace. Now the Filipinos are
still being subjugated, they're still under the Spanish. They get
some reforms out of the deal, though life's alone better. Hey,
no more slavery, right, guys. But part of the deal
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was this Emilio Aginaldo character. He needs to leave, not
put to death, but he needs to leave. So he
gets sent away from the Philippines. Now that brings us
to America and how we got involved in this entire thing.
The Spanish American War is talked about. You probably don't
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know a ton about it. Most people don't. I'm not
an expert on it either. I don't want to act
like well I do when you don't. But it's just
not talked about that much. It was fought in Cuba,
not in Spain. Cuba was an extremely important hub for
us for our business interests. Spain controlled Cuba. We didn't
like how they were controlling things. We end up with
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one of our ships, the Main, ends up going down
there to monitor things, and the Main ends up exploding.
No one knows who did it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
To this day.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Some say we did it to ourselves, some say the
Spanish did it. Some say the rebels did it on
the Eye Island. Some say it was a mechanical failure.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
We'll never know ever, ever, ever, But it was used.
The explosion of the Main was used as a justification
for us to go to war against the Spanish in Cuba,
and go to war we did. That would be the
Spanish American War. And we will continue our story in
just a moment, because it takes us right back to
the Philippines before we do that.
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Does he think so? Yeah? The Jesse Kelly Show.
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. We're
not talking politics right now. If you just stumbled in,
you stumbled into the middle of a history story talking
about the Philippine American War, which we actually haven't quite
gotten to yet.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's been a little bit of a lead up.
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The Spanish American War just kicked off in Cuba. Oh
that's not good. Well, we ended up kicking the crap
out of them. We had to do some heavy fighting
over there, no question about it. But in Cuba that's
where it was fought. But remember I said Spain, it
was a big empire at least at one point in time.
Remember they had the Philippines. You know what else they
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had in the Philippines, some ships, some of their navy
was in the Philippines. America got concerned. We were concerned
that those ships they had in the Philippines would start
making their way across the ocean over to Cuba and
join the fight against America. And we wanted to make
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sure that could not happen. So we picked up the
telephone as such as they were back in the day,
and we got a hold of Dewey, Admiral Dewey. He
was our guy, Emerald Dewey. Don't worry about remembering his name.
Although he was a legend after this. But Admiral Dewey,
we say, hey, Dewey, you've got some ships over there
in that area. Would you kindly take your ships and
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head to the Philippines and destroy or at least contain
the Spanish fleet in the Philippines. Dewey says, I am
on my way. Dewey and his ships. We take off.
We get to the Philippines. Dewey has nine ships. He
comes across sixteen Spanish ships. Now, let's just modernize this
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really quickly.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Here. We've had this talk before.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
About navies, modern navies, and you know how against a
a bloated defense budget. I am and all the waste
and things like that, But remember what I've said many, many,
many times before. There are two branches. They're the two
I make fun of the most. But there are two
branches who must always be on the cutting edge. The
Navy and the air force, the army, the Marines. Look,
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you can always find man and train them up to
do ground combat. It may take time. I get that
you're gonna need veterans to train them. I get that
you cannot if a war kicks off tomorrow with China,
you cannot just modernize the navy. It takes too long
to design, to build, it takes too long. Same thing
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with the air force. You can't kick off a war
with Russia and then find yourself at a disadvantage because
you're gonna get wiped out of the skies, wiped out
of the skies. It has always been this way when
it comes to navies. It's just how that kind of
warfare works. If you have the better ships, the superior technology,
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if you have technologically advanced beyond the enemy, it's not
just that you'll win, you will likely dominate. We had
nine ships, they had sixteen ships. We sailed in and
wiped ten of their ships off the water. Do you
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know what, We lost one sailor, not even one ship.
We lost one sailor. We stormed into the Philippines and
crushed the Spanish.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Now, remember that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Filipino who was leading the revolution, Emilio Aginaldo was his name.
Remember how I told you he'd been exiled, He had
been removed from the Philippines. We thought we were going
to have to fight the Spanish well in some sort
of a significant fashion, in the Philippines as well. So
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we grabbed Emilio Aginaldo and We brought him back to
the Philippines and said, hey, Emilio, go get all your
friends and let's fight these Spanish together. Emilio gets out
on the Philippines. He goes and gets all his rebels,
thousands of them, twenty thirty thousand. You can never get
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accurate numbers, but it was twenty thirty thousand of them,
and they march on Manila. Now we we had already
brought We were bringing ten thousand troops in ourselves. We
brought ten thousand troops over there, getting ready to square
off against the Spanish. Now I want you to picture this.
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There's Manila. You don't have to worry about where it is,
although maps always help, as I said, And on the
outskirts of Manila, you have the Filipino rebels.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And you have us. But keep this in mind.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
We are separate from the Filipino rebels. We are not
fighting together. We're on kind of the same side. We
are on the same side. We're all there to defeat
the Spanish, right, but we are not fighting together. We
are not working together. Now, if you're the Filipinos, what
are you thinking right now? This is wonderful. We are
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going to fight this revolution. The Americans are here to
help us fight the revolution and finally liberate us from
the Spanish who have dominated us forever. If you're an American,
you may not be thinking about this the exact same
way we are all around Manila. The Spanish American war
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does not go well for Spain, and the Spanish in
Manila now have a serious problem. Spanish honor, Spanish pride
is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Then and now.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
They did not want to just surrender. They didn't want
to be seen as just giving away the Philippines, just
giving back Manila and the Spanish because of how they
had treated the Filipinos during their occupation of the Philippines.
The Spanish were understandably concerned about how they would be
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treated if they turned themselves into the Philippines. So what
happens next is controversial, but it is fairly widely accepted
that what happened next was a sham battle that was
agreed upon between the Spanish and Americans. We, without coordinating
(26:19):
with the Filipinos, we attacked the Philippines. We attacked them
in their fortress, and there was this loud battle, all
kinds of gunfire. Whoa but really not many people got hurt,
and the Spanish surrendered, like five minutes after the battle began,
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they surrendered to the Americans.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's fairly widely.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Accepted today that there was an agreement struck beforehand that
the Spanish could kind of fight a half battle and
then just turn themselves into the Americans and hand Manila
and control of the Filipinos over to an America. And
that's exactly what they did. Now we Americans have officially
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marched into Manila. The Spanish have been defeated, although the
treaties not finalized yet.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Hang on on that.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
We're gonna get to that's an important part of the story,
the win on that. But we have defeated the Spanish
in Manila. The American troops have taken it. It belongs
to us. At which point in time, the Filipinos who
are parked outside of Manila say, wow, thanks guys, that
was helpful.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So what are you leaving?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You guys are gonna you are gonna leave right and Americans,
we said no, not right now, We're not. In fact,
not only are we not going to leave you, Filipinos
are not allowed inside of Manila. Not all Filipinos. Remember
the rebel group that was outside the rebel army. We
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told them you we were not allowed to come in
to Manila. Right now, Manila has been surrendered to us.
It is currently under our protection and we are trying
to figure out exactly what we're going to do from here.
And this, as you can imagine, did not go over
all that well with the Filipinos who thought they were
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about to be liberated of any colonial powers. Now let's
pause on that because we have to go back home
to talk about American politics, American politicians, and how all
this stuff is landing there. Before we get to that,
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Speaker 1 (29:47):
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Speaker 2 (29:52):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
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You want to we go back to politics, You got
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my hands are. Back to our story in case you're
just now joining us, We're telling a story about the
Philippine American War, not very well known. We have just
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defeated the Spanish in what was pretty much a sham
battle for Manila. In the Philippines, the American army has
taken it. The Filipino army of rebels is outside of it.
We have banned them from coming into Manila. They thought
they were getting it back. We are now holding it. Now,
let's go back home. This is if you ever if
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you ever read history, you've heard me lament this a
lot about how all these history teachers, all these professors,
all these history books, they always present America as being evil,
all evil, all genocidal, all horrible, all this, and that
America is not so simple either, nothing simple back home
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in America, Americans were trying to figure out what we
should be doing, what's okay, what's not okay in the Philippines,
in Cuba, what kind of country did we want to be?
We saw ourselves as being better than the English, better
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than Spanish. We're going to do things the right way.
And even there there were arguments back and forth. There
were all kinds of American politicians. You can go read
about the arguments in the Senate at the time very divided.
There were senators who said, hey, these Filipinos why don't
we help them, Why don't we stay there, Why don't
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we build schools, Why don't we make the place more modern?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Why don't why don't we help them out?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And then there were other senators who said, no, that's crazy,
that would make us just like the Spanish. We need
to be nice, we should leave, we should give it back.
It was a huge argument at the time. Now, remember
when I told you the treaty had not been signed yet,
the war had not officially ended.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
The Spanish American War.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, one night in Manila, it pops off, as it
normally does when tensions are high, Filipino soldier approaches the
American lines. These stories on what happened next are going
to depend on what you read. If you read any
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Filipino sources, which I read and watched many preparing for this,
they will every one of them to a man, and
they may be accurate. Say the guy didn't understand the
cause of halt because the American troops were saying, halt,
don't come any closers, halt stop, And all the Filipino
sources say, this poor innocent guy didn't understand the cause
(32:59):
of halt. If you read some others and these are
very hard to find. These virtually every source tries to
make us look like the devil. There are other sources,
and in fact, I'm one of these that has a
very hard time believing you need to understand English to
know what halt means a soldier. If you could put
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me anywhere, you know, I only speak three languages, English, Mexican,
and some European. So if you were to put me
in China and I was walking towards the lines of
soldiers and they were telling me to stop in Mandarin.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I'm not the smartest person.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
To put it mildly, I'm pretty sure I would understand
exactly what they're saying. It's not difficult to figure out
when a group of soldiers you're walking towards want you
to stop walking towards them.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
The Filipidos to.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
This day will claim he had no idea he was
out handing out bibles. I have a hard time believe
in that. But again, this is majoring on the miner.
Whatever happens there, the shooting starts. Now.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
People are dying.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Now, Filipinos are attacking Americans, and Americans are attacking Filipinos.
But for the purpose of our treaty. All that American
politicians know is, hey, we were just arguing back and
forth about what to do with these Filipinos. Now that
American troops are dead. Now that place is ours, we
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have no choice. We were at the Treaty of Paris.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
We were dealing with it. It was called the Treaty.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Of Paris, and we were settling this whole thing and
American troops, our guys get word, American troops are dying.
It sealed the deal for the Philippines. We told the Spanish,
we actually bought it from them. We didn't just take
it either, we could have, we actually bought it from
We told the Spanish, we said, hey, we want the Philippines.
We just give you some money for it too. And
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the Spanish, who were off way done with the place, said, yep,
it's all yours. Treaty at Paris is signed Spanish. American
war is over, and now America is in the Philippines.
And now momentum is just one of those things. As
we've talked about many times before, it's hard to quantify,
(35:20):
it's hard to explain, but it's obvious when you see it. Now,
all the momentum is going towards violence. They are upset,
and they are understandably upset. We are upset. We are
understandably upset, and the fighting begins. Now, this is something
if you're an American listening to the sound of my voice,
(35:40):
you should feel proud of this aspect, even if you
don't like this American history story. We're really good at fighting,
and we have been since our inception. Americans are good soldiers.
We are good. We're just good with it. Why because
we love guns. Our love of guns and our affinity
for guns is in grained in US. The Second Amendment
(36:02):
was put over two hundred years ago. We have always
loved guns, and when you have a culture of people
who love guns, then you're naturally going to be better
at fighting with guns. Plus, we were more organized, better trained,
better equipment, more ammunition. When the fighting begins between us
(36:23):
and Emilio Aginaldo and the Philippine rebels, we are beating
the living crap out of them. When they try to
square off against us. You know, these kind of large
pitch battle type things. You're just and this is a
very common tale throughout American history. You square off against Americans,
you better be ready to rumble. Even if you know Vietnam.
(36:45):
Vietnam didn't end well for us. We hardly ever lost
a battle in Vietnam, when whenever there was a battle,
we beat the crap out of everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You don't want it. You want to trade gun, you
want trade bullets.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You don't want to do it with Americans. Okay, so
we start beating the Filipinos were running into a couple
different issues though. One, the heat is a huge problem. Again,
it's the tropics. Two, America was not at all totally
unified behind this war. It wasn't just the politicians. There
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were a lot of Americans who were very uncomfortable watching
an American army conquer a foreign land. For a lot
of Americans, it looked like we were becoming the people
we supposedly hated. Remember, we earned our country by rejecting,
by rebelling against the colonial power.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
We didn't want to be that.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
We'll talk a little bit about that more, and then
some dirty stuff in a moment. Before we get to that,
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