December 22, 2025 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. Welcome back. This is
the Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia Saran, I filling
in for Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I just went to get some coffee and then I
was talking to Mike Lopez over here. We got a
lot to talk about. So this one story that I
saw on social media and it just outraged me. You
can see the video on my Instagram at Lydia News
l I D I A N e WS. You'll see it.
It happens in Seattle. It happens about, let me think
about maybe two weeks ago, but just the video is
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now coming out. This seventy five year old woman, Jeanette Macon.
So make it known. Jeannette needs to have her name
be set out there. Jeanette markin Jeannette Mark and seventy
five years old, Seattle. She was outside the courthouse and
she's just in the middle of the day, afternoon, minding
her own business, waiting to cross the street when a
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maniac comes up from behind her and hits her with
all his might with a stick right and at the edge,
and then you see her grabbing her face and she
falls to the ground. They cut the video before you
actually see the impact. Turns out he put nuts, He
put bolts and screws nuts like he fashioned this to
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take and eat. They went through her eye. She lost
her eye. This poor woman lost her eye. Here's what
makes it really bad. As soon as bystanders come by,
the police come. There's body cam footage from the police.
Police right away, they say, oh was this fallet Peya.
They knew right away.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Who it was.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was this homeless guy who's crazy. They said, Oh, no,
he usually just punches people. He usually just assaults people.
So the police knew he's been in and out of jail.
The guy looks like a psychopath. Even worse, he identifies
trans this fall A Paya. He looks hispanic, forty two
years old. There's a news report of it. Do we
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have that, let's clip number sixteen.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Public defender Kevin Robinson was quick to bring up fall
A pay as long history of mental incompetence this morning.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I have worked with.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
This Paya briefly before, and I reviewed the history and
contact that she's had with both the mental health and
the system of their long history.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Of findings of incompetence and the symptoms that have been
noted before I have observed personally today.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Although charging documents don't mention pay as mental health, they
show pay as long history with the justice system. It reads, quote,
the defendant has a prior conviction for assault in the
second degree in twenty eleven. Defendant also has misdemeanor convictions
for assault in twenty twenty four, four times in twenty
twenty three, and once in twenty twenty. It also calls
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Friday's attack as violent, random, and wholly unjustified when that
left seventy five year old Janet More with broken facebones
and a blind right eye.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
A lottery, but it is not a positive lottery, is
an awful, horrible lottery.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
In an exclusive interview with King five, Mark and Soon
described the confusion they've had to navigate since the attack.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
How could this happen here?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
What is wrong?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What is happening that? Who is doing something wrong? That
this is happening?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Andrea Stiriki says he can't believe Paya was out on
the streets after all those attacks from the past.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
This is not the first assault, like he has assaulted before,
So why the hell will anyone that is assaulting random
people is gonna be left on the street that doesn't
make sense.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, it doesn't make any sense. And you know what
this reporter also left out. He stabs somebody, This folly
Paya stabs somebody eight times recently, so you hear those
are multiple assaults. This is a violent psychopath out on
the streets. And now this poor woman, this seventy five
year old Jeannette net Marken, lost her right eye. She's
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never done anything wrong in her life. How many, let
me ask you, how many more innocent people have to die?
Who has to die, who has to be savagely beaten,
abused for these left wing politicians to stop this psychoticness,
because I don't know, I don't even understand what the
reasoning behind it is. If you see somebody as mentally ill,
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they're hearing voices or they're violet, you have to lock
them up like animals because they're acting like animals. That's
what you have to do. Why do we why are
we a reactive society? Why are we not proactive? I
remember walking down the street once with my sister in
New York City and we saw this like homeless guy
and he was spitting at people, flailing his arms around,
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and he was just acting like he didn't physically touch
anybody yet. And so we walked one block and my
sister goes, she walks up to a cop and she says, Oh,
you gotta go see on fifty fifth Street. You gotta
go see over there, officer. Just down the block. Right there,
there's somebody who's mentally ill. He's not all there. He's
only got one shoe on, he's freezing, he's acting. He
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must be on something, and he's going to hurt somebody.
Cop looked at my sister, he looked at us, and
he just shrugged his shoulders. He didn't care, literally did
not care, did not care. They're like, sorry, man, nothing
we can do about it. Nothing you can do about it.
Like I understand there's such a thing as civil liberties,
but at what point as a society do we do
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the right thing? Where is where's some accountability? Where is
your humanity? This poor woman again, imagine if that was you,
forget about if that was you. Imagine if that was
that was my mother. Now I know I'm a crazy Albanian,
I'm from the Bronx, but if that was my mother,
that this Fallepeia did it to God help him, God
help him, and he should be happy that he's behind
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bars right now on a million dollar bonds, But what
he stabs somebody eight times before, he should have never
been out. We hear this stuff, how many times we
hear it over and over and over again. We saw
what happened to Irina Zerutzka. That's the young Ukrainian girl
that was on the train and she was slashed across
the throat and nobody did anything. And again it was
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a man of color and the victim was a white woman.
Lake and Riley. How many white women have to die
at the hands of men of color before our society
is going to wake up? Right? We're sitting ducks. We
keep seeing it. This woman got set on fire in
New York City. She died. She was a homeless woman.
(06:33):
Guests who set her on fire. It was a black guy,
I mean, there was another. I mean, it just keeps happening, right.
Think about it. If it was a black woman and
it was a white guy that was setting the person
on fire or took out her eye on and there
would be riots in the streets. And yet who is
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voting for who is voting for all of this? It's
white women. So at the end of the day, a
lot of white women, my own contemporaries, they have only
their selves to blame for the chaos and the confusion
because they allow their own empathy. That's what it is.
It's like their moral superiority disguise as empathy, when in
fact it is just idioticy. That is what is happening.
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And that's why I kind of understand when I hear,
you know, political commentators saying that the worst thing that
ever happens in this country was giving the women the
right to vote, right, And I know that's controversial to
say that. I'm not advocating for that because obviously I
am a woman. There's a lot of amazing women doctors
and business leaders, but there are not a lot of
women that think the way I do that can separate
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their emotions. That's our that's our problem. That's a women's problem, right.
We allow our emotions to override our common sensibilities. That's
why guys tend to make better bosses because even if
they like somebody, even if they feel sorry for somebody,
if that person is a poor performer, they cut that
person because that's what you have to do in business.
(08:02):
It's not personal, it's professional and that's how I conduct
myself at work.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I do.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's not personal. I can really really like this girl
real quick. This girl up on Saturday My show. She
was she was filling in horrible she did a horrible job.
I told her specifically multiple multiple times, don't talk, don't
do this, don't do this. She did it, she did it,
did all these things. She came up, she apologized, and
I said, hey, I understand, don't worry. You know, I understand.
(08:30):
But at the end of the day, I'm gonna cut her.
I'm gonna cut her because I like her and I
feel bad, and but the sories aren't going to change that.
You keep messing up, and that's what we have to
do with people. We have to hold them accountable, and
we have to remove our feelings because you have that's
the right thing to do so that person can understand
that when you make a mistake, saying sorry isn't going
(08:52):
to fix it. Just like this, Foley Pay a guy
he should have been behind bars a long time ago,
and the judge that kept releasing him, or the DA
that kept releasing him, you have blood on your hands.
And I hope they get sued somehow. They need to
be held accountable. I'm Lydia Saran, I filling in for
Jesse Kelly. I'll be right back again if you want
to follow me on social media at Lydia News, LDIA, NYWS.
(09:16):
Will be right back the.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Jesse Kelly Show. I Like It returns next.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I Love Me
Some Pearl jam Sam Eddie Vedder Right there. I am
still alive, I am still kicking, and we are going
to continue telling you the stories that matter. Right because
you're not going to see this story on CNN. You're
not going to see it on NBC. You won't see
it on your local stations either. You're not going to
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see it about that woman that I was talking about, right,
the Jeanette Markin who got her eye taken out by
a career criminal. You're also not going to hear about
the bus driver fired after thirty years on the job,
Diane Crawford. She is from the You and DA. I'm
j U N I A T A. I don't Juanita,
(10:04):
I don't know how to say it, or Juanita County
in Pennsylvania. So I'm sorry if somebody from that county
is listening and you're saying, I'm just reading this story.
So Diane Crawford, over thirty years she's been working as
a bus driver, she heard this. This kid was on
the bus causing problems, and he was speaking Spanish and
he was talking to other kids. So she needed she
(10:25):
needed to know what he was saying, because she said, well,
if he's saying he's going to attack me, I need
to know what he's saying. If he is saying he's
going to do X, Y and Z, I need to
know what's going on. I wasn't trying. She put up
a little sign that said everybody in this bus basically
has to speak English. She got fired from her job. Meantime,
you have that other woman right who's a fifth grade
(10:46):
teacher at Chicago, caught on video mimicking Charlie Kirk being
shot in the neck, laughing about she's a big, fat,
disgusting slob, like her belly hangs over her.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
She's just such a vile like inside and out. Why
that's another thing. Why do libs, why are they so
freaking ugly and fat and pathetic? Like have you noticed that?
Like you look at the turning Point USA people, and
you look at conservatives. You see the White House people. Now,
they're just so put together, beautiful from head to toe.
And then you look at these libs. They don't. They
(11:18):
ose like zero femininity. They're just disgusting and grow. Oh,
and then you know what it is. That's why they
become libs, and they hate men because they don't want
to look in the mirror and say, let me go
to the gym, or let me let me die it,
let me let me exercise, let me take pride in
my appearance. No, no, it's just that all men are bad.
It's like nobody wants to be with you, lady, because
(11:38):
you are a fat pig. So listen to this. This
bus driver a clip number seventeen. This is a news
report about her and she talks in it.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
She put up this sign which read out of respect
to English only students, there will be no speaking Spanish
on this bus.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
I didn't mean to be racially insensitive or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Crawford claims she never got to explain that the sign
was put up to encourage safe and respectful behaviors and
was directed at a bilingual student who allegedly had a
history of riling up other students.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
I didn't know if he was bullying somebody telling them
to do something they shouldn't they shouldn't do. How do
you keep control of your bus if you have no control?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
The district and Roarer Bus Writing in a joint statement
today that the investigation had finished quickly after Crawford admitted
to installing the note, writing quote, the relevant facts of
the station were fully known and discussed among district and
rurer leadership, and that it was quote determines that the
conduct did not align with the standards and expectations for
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student transportation providers?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Do you regret making the sign?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Maybe I should have worded it different, Maybe I should
have said bullying has no bullying in any language. But
I didn't mean it to be anything but to correct him.
I dedicated everything I had to driving boss. It was
for the kids.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
I love the kids, Love the kids.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Love.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
May look at that, isn't that sad? And now she's
on welfare, she's on snap benefits. She's sixty something, you know,
almost seventy years old. She's like, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
What?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know? Now she's been fired from being a bus
driver for that school district? How's she going? To get
another how she So, I mean, this is this is
this is very sad. This is really sad what is happening?
And they meanwhile, you have these teachers, you have healthcare workers.
You know, that target Genie, that grandma. They brought her
up on stage on turning point. They raised a quarter
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of a million dollars for her because she was harassed
for wearing a Charlie Kirk that red shirt. She was
wearing it. And then this girl tried to get her
fired and she put it on social media and she's
using all this foul language towards this seventy five year
old target, Grandma Genie, and it backfired on her. And
that girl is a healthcare worker. So we have healthcare workers,
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we have teachers. They are they view this they they
they view the world very myopically, just in through their
their specific lens. These hateful, despicable, disgusting women. I've even
I've said this on TV and I don't care, I'll
say it on the radio. Women, these liberal women are
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the downfall of society. They are the reason are if
our republic goes down, it's because of them. It is
because of them, Kamala, It's not it's not the Democrats.
It's because you people are stupid. You women are stupid
because you think you're so you're so morally superior, you
think you have a right. Oh well, Charlie Kirk was
a racist. Point to me one time that he said
anything racist. I mean, the guy was the opposite of racist.
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He literally had a black kid come up and say, well,
except for just our you know, our our blood is different.
And then and you know, and then Charlie Kirk goes, no,
even our blood isn't different, even microscopically, we're not black
people and white people were not different. Just our skin tone,
we you know, and you could do it. And that
he was the opposite of racist. He wanted people to
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be judged on the content of the of their character,
not the color of their skin. I think if Martin
Luther King Junior were alive today, they the Left would
go after him. I really do think that, because they
want violence. That's what they want, and he preached peace.
They want violence, they want chaos, they want anarchy. I
did a whole big story on the over the weekend
about these this trans uh, this trans group, this island
(15:33):
turtle group. I'm not this is a true story about
these four trans Antifa people. This one guy that he
wanted to be transferred into a woman's only prison, and
then they said no, they wanted to do a Waco
style blow up of several businesses in Los Angeles and
in Orange County. And then another member he was in
(15:54):
New Orleans. He's a former marine, former cop. He's also trans.
So you have these people that are hopped up on drugs,
they're hopped up on hormones, they're not in their right minds,
and where is the media covering it? You see that
they don't even mention that they're trans, right, they don't
even meant the story. You're probably like, wow, I never
(16:15):
even saw this story about this bus driver. I didn't
hear anything about that poor lady in Seattle that got
her I taken out. Now Lydia's telling me that they
were setting up a New York's Eve style a terrorist
attack by like these four trans Antifa people and another
one in New Orleans. So this is why the media
(16:36):
is fake. This is why because it's not just what story,
it's not just how they tell the story. It's not
even just the words. It's the stories that they don't
tell you, and that's why they create a narrative. They
brainwash you. There's a famous line that says, whoever controls
the media controls the masses. And that's why I even
have it on my social media. I'm a truth teller
and sometimes the truth sucks. I would love to see
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here and say, like my says to me, Mommy, how
come we don't have a woman president? And I said,
because we had people like I don't say this to her.
She's eight, she's not gonna know. It's because instead of
popping up somebody that's that's incredible and amazing and brilliant,
they prop up Kamala Harris because she's a DEI candidate.
That's why she's the She's the epitome of DEI. Kamala
(17:21):
Harris stupid, but she was the right skin tone. And
another oh yeah, by the way, she's married to another
white guy, another cock, What a shocker. And then they
put up you know, Hillary Clinton, you know, just because
she's a Clinton. So this is why, because they put
up horrible candidates. Julia, my beautiful, lovely daughter. But I
do have faith that we're going to have a strong
female president one day. Who's going to do the right
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thing and not be a DEI loser. I'm Lydia Sarana.
When we come back, We're going to talk to a
twenty year veteran NYPD officer. We're going to talk about crime,
this revolving door of justice. I'm Lydia saran I Lydia
news l I d I a NYWS. Don't go anywhere.
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Jesse Kelly Show again. I'm Lydia Soaran I Lydia news
l I d I A N E W S. I
was just in getting a coffee before and I ran
(19:19):
into one of the one of the other DJs here
for Z one hundred and and she she was like, oh,
what's your name? And I said Lydia. So I don't
even bother saying my full name because who can say Soeran?
I right, it's it's Albanian in New York, I know,
probably like somebody in South Carolina that's where I actually
lived there for five years for my first TV job.
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And I remember this guy's like, it wasn't I use
a different name down there, because again Saran I c
U R A N A J you know whatever, And
that's my married name and my real last name is
something else even fun funk here and and I was
had a different last name there, and he's like well,
He's like, what is your ethnicity? Are you you Greek?
(20:00):
Are you Italian? I said no, I'm an Albanian. He said, look,
you don't got wet hair. He thought I was. He thought,
I'm an Albino, So that is uh.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
But I was a crime reporter down there. I covered
the craziest crimes and somebody asked me. They said, what
is the one crime story that really sticks out in
your mind? And let me bring in my next guest
who has dealt with a lot of different crimes in
his life. His name is John mccary's a former NYPD
officer of eighteen years almost twenty years. John McCarry also
(20:32):
has a fantastic podcast. You don't want to miss it.
It's fantastic. He's the founder and host of New York's
finest Unfiltered, Unfiltered podcast, The Finest Unfiltered. Retired NYPD Lieutenant
John McCary, thank you so much for.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Joining us, Hi, Lydia, glad to be with you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So John. One of my yeah, it sticks in my mind.
It was a pit bull had gotten assaulted sexually and
the people's name was Princess right, and they found out
it was a neighbor. It was this boy. This is
a true story, folks, this is a true story. And
then my news director I won't say her last name,
but her name was Wanda, and Wanda was a bee
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and Wanda was really nasty and mean to me and
she uh, I mean the reason the story is such
a big deal is and that this guy was molesting
He was molesting dogs and kids and all this stuff.
So that's the one story that they started off with
the animals. And anyway, she told me to blur the
dog's face because she was a rape victim. Ok, you
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believe that. That's how.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
That's how.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
It's a true story. I said, you think princess is
gonna watch herself on TV? Bro roof, that's me roof.
So that's that is the craziest story. And it's a
true story. Uh and so yeah, she made me blur
the dog's face. He ended up so yeah, yeah, so
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thank god he was just trying to you know, molest kids.
But they got him and he's I hope he's still
behind bars. But yeah, So, John, I was talking about
this story about this woman in Seattle, seventy five years old.
Her name is Jeanette markin and I don't know if
you saw the video. Oh you did see it on
my social media. You saw that she got whacked in
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the head by the stick. The guy literally put, he
put screws and nails, He created a deadly weapon.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Put.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
He could have killed her. He could have killed her.
This guy's a career criminal. He took out her eye.
He had just recently stabbed somebody eight times as a cop.
How frustrating is it to see those kind of videos
and to see these criminals just keep getting released.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah again, it's you know, it's public safety failures. And
every democratic run city you see the same playbook over
and over again. The mayors of these cities are telling
you crimes down, and you're just seeing victim after victim
of repeat violent offenders that absolutely nothing happens to in
the justice system. You know, the cops knew who the
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perpetrator was. They were like, oh, he usually just punches people,
like it's okay to go randomly around and punch women
in old ladies. And the thing that really bothers me
and really gets under my skin is watching the police
department's cow town to their progressive mayors as well, because
that's attempted murder, like you hit an old woman with
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a stick with nailing it, you took a eye out.
There is cause that it's right clear as day that
you're attempting to cause serious injury to her. There's no
way that anyone could think that a seventy five year
old woman could survive that, or even a sucker punch
from behind. So that there's a lot at play. But
it's happening in every democratic own city throughout America. It's
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the same public safety failure, failed playbooks, see.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It all the time. Who are the victims? The victims
tend to be women, and they're women that are white, right,
and you see the perpetrators. They're people of color, so
they make up the minority of the population, yet they're
committing the majority of the crime. Why why can't we
say that? Why can't we talk about that? When I
was a reporter at Fox five right here in New
York City, I wasn't allowed if the if the suspect,
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the perpetrator was a black person or we weren't allowed
to say it. We could tell we could say what color,
what color the sweater or their jacket or their hat,
but we couldn't say what color they were. And I
remember my boss, who happened to be a black guy.
He was like, oh, because then, uh, you know a
lot of the times the suspects are black or and
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so that makes people look bad. And I was like,
we're just reporting the facts. So we're asking people to
look out for somebody, but we won't say their skin tone.
And you see that within the police department too, right,
and that I feel like that a lot of the
stats get skewed, and it's done purposely because of some
political you know, correct nonsense.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah. No, there was a time in even New York
City when I was working, where they didn't want the
dispatchers putting over the description of the skin tone, description
of perpetrators that we were looking for. You know, thankfully
we went back to actually doing it because we weren't
catching anyone. Because just saying a male dressed in black
doesn't help anybody, you know, we need a little bit
more description.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So even dispatch, even dispatch wouldn't say the skin tone
because they didn't want they wanted to be politically correct
or dispatch.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Absolutely it was because it was, but it was again,
it was coming down from the mayor's office. It was
coming down from this progressive stance of public safety and
it's anything but public safety. They call it for, you know,
a criminal justice reform, but really it's it's like regression
into insanity. Because telling the truth is not racist. Telling
the truth, there's nothing wrong with it. You know, we
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police crime. We don't police skin color. You know, if
the if the if the perpetrators are male white, or
the perpetrators a male black or female black, whatever they is.
We just need to know that if you want crimes
to be soltful.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I don't understand it. And we just keep seeing
these career criminals. I tell this story with my sister
before we saw this homeless guy acting crazy on the street.
We walked down the block and we told the cops,
were like, hey, this guy's acting erratically, and he just
shrugged his shoulders. So you have police officers that even
if I think they want to do something, they can't
do something. And yet you have the police commissioners and
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you have the mayors come out and say crime is down,
crime is down. How did they get away with lying
to the public.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Because you know what they're really telling you is that
is that the way we report crime is down, it's
not actually that crime is down. So if you take
a felony and soul for example, and you're like that,
maybe it really wasn't a felony, maybe it was a misdemeanor,
and you report what should have been a felony as misdemeanor.
You know, if you look in all these areas where
they're telling you crimes down, all the residents of every city,
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or like, I don't feel safe, I don't take the
train at night anymore, I don't go out at night anymore.
Yet the police departments telling me crimes down. But I
was just a victim. And that's exactly how they're doing it.
Is they're misrepresenting, misreporting crime. They're going on arbitrary time
periods of where they'll show drops in crime. And it's
(27:15):
ridiculous because if you just look at the overall numbers
of crime, even with misrepresented data, you could see clear
as day that crime is up. Violent crime is up,
and it's up nationwide. And again it's all in these
democratic run cities and democratic run states where they all
have this cashless bail where they're letting violent repeat offenders out.
(27:37):
They all pass some form of discovery law. Where they
put really an undue burden on the District Attorney's office,
who most of them believe that they're social workers. But
even when they go to prosecute, they have these crazy
time periods that if they don't get all the evidence
in case gets dismissed. So you have all these people
running around the streets that should be.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
In jail thetainly don't go anywhere again. We're talking to
John McCary, former NYPD lieutenant eighteen years and I just
saw like the New York Post posting this story too,
that we're talking about Jeanette Marken and it's just so horrific,
and now it's gaining traction. But don't go anywhere again,
John McCary. I'm Lydia Soarran I at Lydia News l
(28:18):
I d I a NYWS. You can see the video
of the attack on my social media on Instagram. Don't
go anywhere. We'll be right back Jesse Kelly Vaccian and
welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm Lydia saran
I filling in for Jesse. He is spending so much
needed time off, spending it with his family. It's always
(28:40):
great to be able to fill in here. We're talking
to John McCary. He is a former NYPD lieutenant eighteen
years on the job. He's seeing the good, the bad,
and the ugly. John, tell everybody how you lost your Well,
you retired, right, you officially retired, but you kind of
had to be forced to retire, right.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, you know. I did a teen years with the
police department. I was never a disciplinary problem. I was
always five point h rated. I was going to move
up to be a captain in the NYPD. I was
in my eighteenth year when Bill Deblasio implemented the COVID mandate,
right before Eric Adams took office. Eric Adams took office,
I submitted a religious accommodation, I submitted a medical accommodation
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and get shot tonight. I had COVID nineteen in the
line of duty. I got pneumonia from it. I actually
I had a really bad.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Go of it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
And when I got back to work, I went to
see the NYPD doctors and they told me not to
take the COVID vaccine. They said that more than likely
I would have an adverse side effect due to the
fact I had it so badly, and so I went
I adhered to their advice. I went, I took an
antibody exam, and my antibodies were absolutely through the roof.
And so when I told the doctors that, when only
(29:50):
days later they're telling me, listen, we're going to fire
you if you don't take this, I was like, you know,
I wasn't willing to take the termination and give away
eighteen years my health benefits. So you know, I consider
that I was. I was coercively terminated, but I did retire.
I was like, I retired earlier, to retire, much earlier
than I wanted, but two years shy of a full pension,
(30:10):
you know. And it was just it was a terrible time.
And it wasn't just me. It was thousands of officers
and city workers across New York City dealt with that,
as well as private sector workers. And it was just
a ridiculous, unscientific time in New York City history and
something that I hope we never see again.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Oh my god. And I mean, and now we know
definitively all the adverse side effects as people strokes, heart attacks.
I have a family member who all of a sudden
was is now in congestive heart failure after getting the
shot my father who died on you know, a year ago.
(30:48):
He said he was never the same after he got
the shot, and I still I have so much guilt
in my heart. I'm like heart broke. I mean, he
didn't have an out like an outward side effect that
like I told you about the other family member who
literally within a month she ended up having to she
was having heart problems and had they diagnosed her with
(31:09):
congestive heart failure. And of course they say I had
nothing to do with the shot. But my father, he
said he died on September twenty ninth of last year.
He said he was never the same, he never felt
the same after that shot. And me, which I'm a
very healthy kind of person. I work out almost every
single day, I was knocked on my butt. I have
never after I got the second shot, and I was
(31:30):
forced to by my previous employer. He told me if
I don't get the shot, I would lose my job,
and I needed my job. I have a mortgage, and
my husband and I were not independently wealthy. And I
was literally bedridden. I couldn't get out of bed. I
didn't know what happened to me. My husband, thankfully never
had to get the shot and he never got COVID.
Me who got the shot. I ended up getting COVID
like three times. And by the way, that same boss
(31:50):
that forced me to get it, he lost his vision
in one of his eyes after he got the shot.
I'm not kidding. And you know which boss I'm gonna talk.
I'm telling you, right, John, I'm not going to say
his name on the air, but like, and this is
what people were going through because of these mandates and
these same people that say you should be allowed to
kill your kid up until the ninth month, because here
in New York you're allowed to kill your baby up
until the ninth month, and they say, it's my body,
(32:11):
my choice. Meantime, they forced us to take this experimental.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Thing absolutely and now you know, and they really went
after they went after all faith based people, everyone that
believes in the truth. And it was it really was
a terrible time, and it really went against science. I
mean because think about that. I have the same doctor
that was telling me seven days prior, listen, don't take this.
This could be bad for you because you're already protected
(32:37):
with your natural immunity. And he explained it to me like, well,
you know, You've had chicken pox when you were a kid, right,
And I'm like yeah, and he's like, exactly, you didn't
take a chicken pox vaccine because now you have an
immunity to it. Seven days later, he's like, well, you
got to take it because the mayor said, so we're
going to fire you. And I'm like, is this a joke?
Speaker 7 (32:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And you know, I just couldn't do it. Like I
wanted to do it. I wanted to continue on in
my career. I wanted to move to captain. You know,
I love New York City. I love the New York
City Police Department. But I wasn't gonna. I wasn't. I
just didn't feel comfortable with it. And I felt that
like it was wrong to what they were doing to
our kids. At the same time, my kids were being
segregated in school, and I just I just couldn't. I
(33:16):
just couldn't go along with it. And so that ultimately
like kind of forced me out of my career and
then into like what I'm doing now, or I've been
speaking out and kind of you know, being the voice
of the rank and file cops in the New York
City Police Department.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Again, we're speaking to John McCary. He is the host
of the finest Unfiltered podcast. We got about a minute left.
What do you think is going to happen to New
York City now that we have a mayor man Zannie.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I think it's gonna you're gonna continue to see it
on a downward spiral you're looking at and as far
as public safety concern, crime is going to continue to rise. Uh,
you're going to continue to hear the perception management campaign
come out that crime is down from the NYPD and
from elected to fit. But they're going to continuously push out,
you know, good moral, active police officers and they're going
(34:07):
to replace them with underpaid, underpaid non non how do
I say this? Cops without guns and this new Bureau
of Community Safety that he's implementing. So I think you're
just going to see more of this failed progressive criminal
justice reform agenda in New York City. Unfortunately, I don't
(34:27):
think you're going to see things get better for a while.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
No, we won't. John McCary, thank you so much for
joining us and again, hosts of the Unfiltered podcast. Where
can they listen to you and watch you?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Absolutely? If you guys can just go over to YouTube
at to finance unfiltered. When you're in seventy thousand, we're
trying to get that's that one hundred thousand subscribe with Mark.
So appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Lit.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's always great talking to you.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Thank you. All right, guys, we got a lot more
to talk about because I'm going to be talking to
Father Pavone. He was kicked out of the priesthood. We're
going to talk to him about it. So we're talking
to one person that was forced out of the NYPD.
But that's what we do, and the reason he was
kicked out, Father Provone is for telling the truth. We
love the truth. Here on the Jesse Kelly Show, I'm
(35:09):
Lydia Sara and I at Lydia News l I D
I A N e WS. We'll be right back
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. Welcome back. This is
the Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia Saran, I filling
in for Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I just went to get some coffee and then I
was talking to Mike Lopez over here. We got a
lot to talk about. So this one story that I
saw on social media and it just outraged me. You
can see the video on my Instagram at Lydia News
l I D I A N e WS. You'll see it.
It happens in Seattle. It happens about, let me think
about maybe two weeks ago, but just the video is
(00:43):
now coming out. This seventy five year old woman, Jeanette Macon.
So make it known. Jeannette needs to have her name
be set out there. Jeanette markin Jeannette Mark and seventy
five years old, Seattle. She was outside the courthouse and
she's just in the middle of the day, afternoon, minding
her own business, waiting to cross the street when a
(01:05):
maniac comes up from behind her and hits her with
all his might with a stick right and at the edge,
and then you see her grabbing her face and she
falls to the ground. They cut the video before you
actually see the impact. Turns out he put nuts, He
put bolts and screws nuts like he fashioned this to
(01:25):
take and eat. They went through her eye. She lost
her eye. This poor woman lost her eye. Here's what
makes it really bad. As soon as bystanders come by,
the police come. There's body cam footage from the police.
Police right away, they say, oh was this fallet Peya.
They knew right away.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Who it was.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was this homeless guy who's crazy. They said, Oh, no,
he usually just punches people. He usually just assaults people.
So the police knew he's been in and out of jail.
The guy looks like a psychopath. Even worse, he identifies
trans this fall A Paya. He looks hispanic, forty two
years old. There's a news report of it. Do we
(02:08):
have that, let's clip number sixteen.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Public defender Kevin Robinson was quick to bring up fall
A pay as long history of mental incompetence this morning.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I have worked with.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
This Paya briefly before, and I reviewed the history and
contact that she's had with both the mental health and
the system of their long history.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Of findings of incompetence and the symptoms that have been
noted before I have observed personally today.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Although charging documents don't mention pay as mental health, they
show pay as long history with the justice system. It reads, quote,
the defendant has a prior conviction for assault in the
second degree in twenty eleven. Defendant also has misdemeanor convictions
for assault in twenty twenty four, four times in twenty
twenty three, and once in twenty twenty. It also calls
(02:53):
Friday's attack as violent, random, and wholly unjustified when that
left seventy five year old Janet More with broken facebones
and a blind right eye.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
A lottery, but it is not a positive lottery, is
an awful, horrible lottery.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
In an exclusive interview with King five, Mark and Soon
described the confusion they've had to navigate since the attack.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
How could this happen here?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
What is wrong?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What is happening that? Who is doing something wrong? That
this is happening?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Andrea Stiriki says he can't believe Paya was out on
the streets after all those attacks from the past.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
This is not the first assault, like he has assaulted before,
So why the hell will anyone that is assaulting random
people is gonna be left on the street that doesn't
make sense.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, it doesn't make any sense. And you know what
this reporter also left out. He stabs somebody, This folly
Paya stabs somebody eight times recently, so you hear those
are multiple assaults. This is a violent psychopath out on
the streets. And now this poor woman, this seventy five
year old Jeannette net Marken, lost her right eye. She's
(04:03):
never done anything wrong in her life. How many, let
me ask you, how many more innocent people have to die?
Who has to die, who has to be savagely beaten,
abused for these left wing politicians to stop this psychoticness,
because I don't know, I don't even understand what the
reasoning behind it is. If you see somebody as mentally ill,
(04:24):
they're hearing voices or they're violet, you have to lock
them up like animals because they're acting like animals. That's
what you have to do. Why do we why are
we a reactive society? Why are we not proactive? I
remember walking down the street once with my sister in
New York City and we saw this like homeless guy
and he was spitting at people, flailing his arms around,
(04:45):
and he was just acting like he didn't physically touch
anybody yet. And so we walked one block and my
sister goes, she walks up to a cop and she says, Oh,
you gotta go see on fifty fifth Street. You gotta
go see over there, officer. Just down the block. Right there,
there's somebody who's mentally ill. He's not all there. He's
only got one shoe on, he's freezing, he's acting. He
(05:07):
must be on something, and he's going to hurt somebody.
Cop looked at my sister, he looked at us, and
he just shrugged his shoulders. He didn't care, literally did
not care, did not care. They're like, sorry, man, nothing
we can do about it. Nothing you can do about it.
Like I understand there's such a thing as civil liberties,
but at what point as a society do we do
(05:28):
the right thing? Where is where's some accountability? Where is
your humanity? This poor woman again, imagine if that was you,
forget about if that was you. Imagine if that was
that was my mother. Now I know I'm a crazy Albanian,
I'm from the Bronx, but if that was my mother,
that this Fallepeia did it to God help him, God
help him, and he should be happy that he's behind
(05:50):
bars right now on a million dollar bonds, But what
he stabs somebody eight times before, he should have never
been out. We hear this stuff, how many times we
hear it over and over and over again. We saw
what happened to Irina Zerutzka. That's the young Ukrainian girl
that was on the train and she was slashed across
the throat and nobody did anything. And again it was
(06:11):
a man of color and the victim was a white woman.
Lake and Riley. How many white women have to die
at the hands of men of color before our society
is going to wake up? Right? We're sitting ducks. We
keep seeing it. This woman got set on fire in
New York City. She died. She was a homeless woman.
(06:33):
Guests who set her on fire. It was a black guy,
I mean, there was another. I mean, it just keeps happening, right.
Think about it. If it was a black woman and
it was a white guy that was setting the person
on fire or took out her eye on and there
would be riots in the streets. And yet who is
(06:54):
voting for who is voting for all of this? It's
white women. So at the end of the day, a
lot of white women, my own contemporaries, they have only
their selves to blame for the chaos and the confusion
because they allow their own empathy. That's what it is.
It's like their moral superiority disguise as empathy, when in
fact it is just idioticy. That is what is happening.
(07:17):
And that's why I kind of understand when I hear,
you know, political commentators saying that the worst thing that
ever happens in this country was giving the women the
right to vote, right, And I know that's controversial to
say that. I'm not advocating for that because obviously I
am a woman. There's a lot of amazing women doctors
and business leaders, but there are not a lot of
women that think the way I do that can separate
(07:41):
their emotions. That's our that's our problem. That's a women's problem, right.
We allow our emotions to override our common sensibilities. That's
why guys tend to make better bosses because even if
they like somebody, even if they feel sorry for somebody,
if that person is a poor performer, they cut that
person because that's what you have to do in business.
(08:02):
It's not personal, it's professional and that's how I conduct
myself at work.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I do.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's not personal. I can really really like this girl
real quick. This girl up on Saturday My show. She
was she was filling in horrible she did a horrible job.
I told her specifically multiple multiple times, don't talk, don't
do this, don't do this. She did it, she did it,
did all these things. She came up, she apologized, and
I said, hey, I understand, don't worry. You know, I understand.
(08:30):
But at the end of the day, I'm gonna cut her.
I'm gonna cut her because I like her and I
feel bad, and but the sories aren't going to change that.
You keep messing up, and that's what we have to
do with people. We have to hold them accountable, and
we have to remove our feelings because you have that's
the right thing to do so that person can understand
that when you make a mistake, saying sorry isn't going
(08:52):
to fix it. Just like this, Foley Pay a guy
he should have been behind bars a long time ago,
and the judge that kept releasing him, or the DA
that kept releasing him, you have blood on your hands.
And I hope they get sued somehow. They need to
be held accountable. I'm Lydia Saran, I filling in for
Jesse Kelly. I'll be right back again if you want
to follow me on social media at Lydia News, LDIA, NYWS.
(09:16):
Will be right back the.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Jesse Kelly Show. I Like It returns next.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I Love Me
Some Pearl jam Sam Eddie Vedder Right there. I am
still alive, I am still kicking, and we are going
to continue telling you the stories that matter. Right because
you're not going to see this story on CNN. You're
not going to see it on NBC. You won't see
it on your local stations either. You're not going to
(09:42):
see it about that woman that I was talking about, right,
the Jeanette Markin who got her eye taken out by
a career criminal. You're also not going to hear about
the bus driver fired after thirty years on the job,
Diane Crawford. She is from the You and DA. I'm
j U N I A T A. I don't Juanita,
(10:04):
I don't know how to say it, or Juanita County
in Pennsylvania. So I'm sorry if somebody from that county
is listening and you're saying, I'm just reading this story.
So Diane Crawford, over thirty years she's been working as
a bus driver, she heard this. This kid was on
the bus causing problems, and he was speaking Spanish and
he was talking to other kids. So she needed she
(10:25):
needed to know what he was saying, because she said, well,
if he's saying he's going to attack me, I need
to know what he's saying. If he is saying he's
going to do X, Y and Z, I need to
know what's going on. I wasn't trying. She put up
a little sign that said everybody in this bus basically
has to speak English. She got fired from her job. Meantime,
you have that other woman right who's a fifth grade
(10:46):
teacher at Chicago, caught on video mimicking Charlie Kirk being
shot in the neck, laughing about she's a big, fat,
disgusting slob, like her belly hangs over her.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
She's just such a vile like inside and out. Why
that's another thing. Why do libs, why are they so
freaking ugly and fat and pathetic? Like have you noticed that?
Like you look at the turning Point USA people, and
you look at conservatives. You see the White House people. Now,
they're just so put together, beautiful from head to toe.
And then you look at these libs. They don't. They
(11:18):
ose like zero femininity. They're just disgusting and grow. Oh,
and then you know what it is. That's why they
become libs, and they hate men because they don't want
to look in the mirror and say, let me go
to the gym, or let me let me die it,
let me let me exercise, let me take pride in
my appearance. No, no, it's just that all men are bad.
It's like nobody wants to be with you, lady, because
(11:38):
you are a fat pig. So listen to this. This
bus driver a clip number seventeen. This is a news
report about her and she talks in it.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
She put up this sign which read out of respect
to English only students, there will be no speaking Spanish
on this bus.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
I didn't mean to be racially insensitive or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Crawford claims she never got to explain that the sign
was put up to encourage safe and respectful behaviors and
was directed at a bilingual student who allegedly had a
history of riling up other students.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
I didn't know if he was bullying somebody telling them
to do something they shouldn't they shouldn't do. How do
you keep control of your bus if you have no control?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
The district and Roarer Bus Writing in a joint statement
today that the investigation had finished quickly after Crawford admitted
to installing the note, writing quote, the relevant facts of
the station were fully known and discussed among district and
rurer leadership, and that it was quote determines that the
conduct did not align with the standards and expectations for
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student transportation providers?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Do you regret making the sign?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Maybe I should have worded it different, Maybe I should
have said bullying has no bullying in any language. But
I didn't mean it to be anything but to correct him.
I dedicated everything I had to driving boss. It was
for the kids.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
I love the kids, Love the kids.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Love.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
May look at that, isn't that sad? And now she's
on welfare, she's on snap benefits. She's sixty something, you know,
almost seventy years old. She's like, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
What?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know? Now she's been fired from being a bus
driver for that school district? How's she going? To get
another how she So, I mean, this is this is
this is very sad. This is really sad what is happening?
And they meanwhile, you have these teachers, you have healthcare workers.
You know, that target Genie, that grandma. They brought her
up on stage on turning point. They raised a quarter
(13:45):
of a million dollars for her because she was harassed
for wearing a Charlie Kirk that red shirt. She was
wearing it. And then this girl tried to get her
fired and she put it on social media and she's
using all this foul language towards this seventy five year
old target, Grandma Genie, and it backfired on her. And
that girl is a healthcare worker. So we have healthcare workers,
(14:05):
we have teachers. They are they view this they they
they view the world very myopically, just in through their
their specific lens. These hateful, despicable, disgusting women. I've even
I've said this on TV and I don't care, I'll
say it on the radio. Women, these liberal women are
(14:26):
the downfall of society. They are the reason are if
our republic goes down, it's because of them. It is
because of them, Kamala, It's not it's not the Democrats.
It's because you people are stupid. You women are stupid
because you think you're so you're so morally superior, you
think you have a right. Oh well, Charlie Kirk was
a racist. Point to me one time that he said
anything racist. I mean, the guy was the opposite of racist.
(14:49):
He literally had a black kid come up and say, well,
except for just our you know, our our blood is different.
And then and you know, and then Charlie Kirk goes, no,
even our blood isn't different, even microscopically, we're not black
people and white people were not different. Just our skin tone,
we you know, and you could do it. And that
he was the opposite of racist. He wanted people to
(15:10):
be judged on the content of the of their character,
not the color of their skin. I think if Martin
Luther King Junior were alive today, they the Left would
go after him. I really do think that, because they
want violence. That's what they want, and he preached peace.
They want violence, they want chaos, they want anarchy. I
did a whole big story on the over the weekend
about these this trans uh, this trans group, this island
(15:33):
turtle group. I'm not this is a true story about
these four trans Antifa people. This one guy that he
wanted to be transferred into a woman's only prison, and
then they said no, they wanted to do a Waco
style blow up of several businesses in Los Angeles and
in Orange County. And then another member he was in
(15:54):
New Orleans. He's a former marine, former cop. He's also trans.
So you have these people that are hopped up on drugs,
they're hopped up on hormones, they're not in their right minds,
and where is the media covering it? You see that
they don't even mention that they're trans, right, they don't
even meant the story. You're probably like, wow, I never
(16:15):
even saw this story about this bus driver. I didn't
hear anything about that poor lady in Seattle that got
her I taken out. Now Lydia's telling me that they
were setting up a New York's Eve style a terrorist
attack by like these four trans Antifa people and another
one in New Orleans. So this is why the media
(16:36):
is fake. This is why because it's not just what story,
it's not just how they tell the story. It's not
even just the words. It's the stories that they don't
tell you, and that's why they create a narrative. They
brainwash you. There's a famous line that says, whoever controls
the media controls the masses. And that's why I even
have it on my social media. I'm a truth teller
and sometimes the truth sucks. I would love to see
(16:59):
here and say, like my says to me, Mommy, how
come we don't have a woman president? And I said,
because we had people like I don't say this to her.
She's eight, she's not gonna know. It's because instead of
popping up somebody that's that's incredible and amazing and brilliant,
they prop up Kamala Harris because she's a DEI candidate.
That's why she's the She's the epitome of DEI. Kamala
(17:21):
Harris stupid, but she was the right skin tone. And
another oh yeah, by the way, she's married to another
white guy, another cock, What a shocker. And then they
put up you know, Hillary Clinton, you know, just because
she's a Clinton. So this is why, because they put
up horrible candidates. Julia, my beautiful, lovely daughter. But I
do have faith that we're going to have a strong
female president one day. Who's going to do the right
(17:42):
thing and not be a DEI loser. I'm Lydia Sarana.
When we come back, We're going to talk to a
twenty year veteran NYPD officer. We're going to talk about crime,
this revolving door of justice. I'm Lydia saran I Lydia
news l I d I a NYWS. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Jesse Kelly.
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Jesse Kelly Show again. I'm Lydia Soaran I Lydia news
l I d I A N E W S. I
was just in getting a coffee before and I ran
(19:19):
into one of the one of the other DJs here
for Z one hundred and and she she was like, oh,
what's your name? And I said Lydia. So I don't
even bother saying my full name because who can say Soeran?
I right, it's it's Albanian in New York, I know,
probably like somebody in South Carolina that's where I actually
lived there for five years for my first TV job.
(19:40):
And I remember this guy's like, it wasn't I use
a different name down there, because again Saran I c
U R A N A J you know whatever, And
that's my married name and my real last name is
something else even fun funk here and and I was
had a different last name there, and he's like well,
He's like, what is your ethnicity? Are you you Greek?
(20:00):
Are you Italian? I said no, I'm an Albanian. He said, look,
you don't got wet hair. He thought I was. He thought,
I'm an Albino, So that is uh.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
But I was a crime reporter down there. I covered
the craziest crimes and somebody asked me. They said, what
is the one crime story that really sticks out in
your mind? And let me bring in my next guest
who has dealt with a lot of different crimes in
his life. His name is John mccary's a former NYPD
officer of eighteen years almost twenty years. John McCarry also
(20:32):
has a fantastic podcast. You don't want to miss it.
It's fantastic. He's the founder and host of New York's
finest Unfiltered, Unfiltered podcast, The Finest Unfiltered. Retired NYPD Lieutenant
John McCary, thank you so much for.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Joining us, Hi, Lydia, glad to be with you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So John. One of my yeah, it sticks in my mind.
It was a pit bull had gotten assaulted sexually and
the people's name was Princess right, and they found out
it was a neighbor. It was this boy. This is
a true story, folks, this is a true story. And
then my news director I won't say her last name,
but her name was Wanda, and Wanda was a bee
(21:14):
and Wanda was really nasty and mean to me and
she uh, I mean the reason the story is such
a big deal is and that this guy was molesting
He was molesting dogs and kids and all this stuff.
So that's the one story that they started off with
the animals. And anyway, she told me to blur the
dog's face because she was a rape victim. Ok, you
(21:35):
believe that. That's how.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
That's how.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
It's a true story. I said, you think princess is
gonna watch herself on TV? Bro roof, that's me roof.
So that's that is the craziest story. And it's a
true story. Uh and so yeah, she made me blur
the dog's face. He ended up so yeah, yeah, so
(22:04):
thank god he was just trying to you know, molest kids.
But they got him and he's I hope he's still
behind bars. But yeah, So, John, I was talking about
this story about this woman in Seattle, seventy five years old.
Her name is Jeanette markin and I don't know if
you saw the video. Oh you did see it on
my social media. You saw that she got whacked in
(22:26):
the head by the stick. The guy literally put, he
put screws and nails, He created a deadly weapon.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Put.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
He could have killed her. He could have killed her.
This guy's a career criminal. He took out her eye.
He had just recently stabbed somebody eight times as a cop.
How frustrating is it to see those kind of videos
and to see these criminals just keep getting released.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah again, it's you know, it's public safety failures. And
every democratic run city you see the same playbook over
and over again. The mayors of these cities are telling
you crimes down, and you're just seeing victim after victim
of repeat violent offenders that absolutely nothing happens to in
the justice system. You know, the cops knew who the
(23:12):
perpetrator was. They were like, oh, he usually just punches people,
like it's okay to go randomly around and punch women
in old ladies. And the thing that really bothers me
and really gets under my skin is watching the police
department's cow town to their progressive mayors as well, because
that's attempted murder, like you hit an old woman with
(23:32):
a stick with nailing it, you took a eye out.
There is cause that it's right clear as day that
you're attempting to cause serious injury to her. There's no
way that anyone could think that a seventy five year
old woman could survive that, or even a sucker punch
from behind. So that there's a lot at play. But
it's happening in every democratic own city throughout America. It's
(23:56):
the same public safety failure, failed playbooks, see.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It all the time. Who are the victims? The victims
tend to be women, and they're women that are white, right,
and you see the perpetrators. They're people of color, so
they make up the minority of the population, yet they're
committing the majority of the crime. Why why can't we
say that? Why can't we talk about that? When I
was a reporter at Fox five right here in New
York City, I wasn't allowed if the if the suspect,
(24:21):
the perpetrator was a black person or we weren't allowed
to say it. We could tell we could say what color,
what color the sweater or their jacket or their hat,
but we couldn't say what color they were. And I
remember my boss, who happened to be a black guy.
He was like, oh, because then, uh, you know a
lot of the times the suspects are black or and
(24:42):
so that makes people look bad. And I was like,
we're just reporting the facts. So we're asking people to
look out for somebody, but we won't say their skin tone.
And you see that within the police department too, right,
and that I feel like that a lot of the
stats get skewed, and it's done purposely because of some
political you know, correct nonsense.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah. No, there was a time in even New York
City when I was working, where they didn't want the
dispatchers putting over the description of the skin tone, description
of perpetrators that we were looking for. You know, thankfully
we went back to actually doing it because we weren't
catching anyone. Because just saying a male dressed in black
doesn't help anybody, you know, we need a little bit
more description.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So even dispatch, even dispatch wouldn't say the skin tone
because they didn't want they wanted to be politically correct
or dispatch.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Absolutely it was because it was, but it was again,
it was coming down from the mayor's office. It was
coming down from this progressive stance of public safety and
it's anything but public safety. They call it for, you know,
a criminal justice reform, but really it's it's like regression
into insanity. Because telling the truth is not racist. Telling
the truth, there's nothing wrong with it. You know, we
(25:52):
police crime. We don't police skin color. You know, if
the if the if the perpetrators are male white, or
the perpetrators a male black or female black, whatever they is.
We just need to know that if you want crimes
to be soltful.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I don't understand it. And we just keep seeing
these career criminals. I tell this story with my sister
before we saw this homeless guy acting crazy on the street.
We walked down the block and we told the cops,
were like, hey, this guy's acting erratically, and he just
shrugged his shoulders. So you have police officers that even
if I think they want to do something, they can't
do something. And yet you have the police commissioners and
(26:26):
you have the mayors come out and say crime is down,
crime is down. How did they get away with lying
to the public.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Because you know what they're really telling you is that
is that the way we report crime is down, it's
not actually that crime is down. So if you take
a felony and soul for example, and you're like that,
maybe it really wasn't a felony, maybe it was a misdemeanor,
and you report what should have been a felony as misdemeanor.
You know, if you look in all these areas where
they're telling you crimes down, all the residents of every city,
(26:55):
or like, I don't feel safe, I don't take the
train at night anymore, I don't go out at night anymore.
Yet the police departments telling me crimes down. But I
was just a victim. And that's exactly how they're doing it.
Is they're misrepresenting, misreporting crime. They're going on arbitrary time
periods of where they'll show drops in crime. And it's
(27:15):
ridiculous because if you just look at the overall numbers
of crime, even with misrepresented data, you could see clear
as day that crime is up. Violent crime is up,
and it's up nationwide. And again it's all in these
democratic run cities and democratic run states where they all
have this cashless bail where they're letting violent repeat offenders out.
(27:37):
They all pass some form of discovery law. Where they
put really an undue burden on the District Attorney's office,
who most of them believe that they're social workers. But
even when they go to prosecute, they have these crazy
time periods that if they don't get all the evidence
in case gets dismissed. So you have all these people
running around the streets that should be.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
In jail thetainly don't go anywhere again. We're talking to
John McCary, former NYPD lieutenant eighteen years and I just
saw like the New York Post posting this story too,
that we're talking about Jeanette Marken and it's just so horrific,
and now it's gaining traction. But don't go anywhere again,
John McCary. I'm Lydia Soarran I at Lydia News l
(28:18):
I d I a NYWS. You can see the video
of the attack on my social media on Instagram. Don't
go anywhere. We'll be right back Jesse Kelly Vaccian and
welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm Lydia saran
I filling in for Jesse. He is spending so much
needed time off, spending it with his family. It's always
(28:40):
great to be able to fill in here. We're talking
to John McCary. He is a former NYPD lieutenant eighteen
years on the job. He's seeing the good, the bad,
and the ugly. John, tell everybody how you lost your Well,
you retired, right, you officially retired, but you kind of
had to be forced to retire, right.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, you know. I did a teen years with the
police department. I was never a disciplinary problem. I was
always five point h rated. I was going to move
up to be a captain in the NYPD. I was
in my eighteenth year when Bill Deblasio implemented the COVID mandate,
right before Eric Adams took office. Eric Adams took office,
I submitted a religious accommodation, I submitted a medical accommodation
(29:20):
and get shot tonight. I had COVID nineteen in the
line of duty. I got pneumonia from it. I actually
I had a really bad.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Go of it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
And when I got back to work, I went to
see the NYPD doctors and they told me not to
take the COVID vaccine. They said that more than likely
I would have an adverse side effect due to the
fact I had it so badly, and so I went
I adhered to their advice. I went, I took an
antibody exam, and my antibodies were absolutely through the roof.
And so when I told the doctors that, when only
(29:50):
days later they're telling me, listen, we're going to fire
you if you don't take this, I was like, you know,
I wasn't willing to take the termination and give away
eighteen years my health benefits. So you know, I consider
that I was. I was coercively terminated, but I did retire.
I was like, I retired earlier, to retire, much earlier
than I wanted, but two years shy of a full pension,
(30:10):
you know. And it was just it was a terrible time.
And it wasn't just me. It was thousands of officers
and city workers across New York City dealt with that,
as well as private sector workers. And it was just
a ridiculous, unscientific time in New York City history and
something that I hope we never see again.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Oh my god. And I mean, and now we know
definitively all the adverse side effects as people strokes, heart attacks.
I have a family member who all of a sudden
was is now in congestive heart failure after getting the
shot my father who died on you know, a year ago.
(30:48):
He said he was never the same after he got
the shot, and I still I have so much guilt
in my heart. I'm like heart broke. I mean, he
didn't have an out like an outward side effect that
like I told you about the other family member who
literally within a month she ended up having to she
was having heart problems and had they diagnosed her with
(31:09):
congestive heart failure. And of course they say I had
nothing to do with the shot. But my father, he
said he died on September twenty ninth of last year.
He said he was never the same, he never felt
the same after that shot. And me, which I'm a
very healthy kind of person. I work out almost every
single day, I was knocked on my butt. I have
never after I got the second shot, and I was
(31:30):
forced to by my previous employer. He told me if
I don't get the shot, I would lose my job,
and I needed my job. I have a mortgage, and
my husband and I were not independently wealthy. And I
was literally bedridden. I couldn't get out of bed. I
didn't know what happened to me. My husband, thankfully never
had to get the shot and he never got COVID.
Me who got the shot. I ended up getting COVID
like three times. And by the way, that same boss
(31:50):
that forced me to get it, he lost his vision
in one of his eyes after he got the shot.
I'm not kidding. And you know which boss I'm gonna talk.
I'm telling you, right, John, I'm not going to say
his name on the air, but like, and this is
what people were going through because of these mandates and
these same people that say you should be allowed to
kill your kid up until the ninth month, because here
in New York you're allowed to kill your baby up
until the ninth month, and they say, it's my body,
(32:11):
my choice. Meantime, they forced us to take this experimental.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Thing absolutely and now you know, and they really went
after they went after all faith based people, everyone that
believes in the truth. And it was it really was
a terrible time, and it really went against science. I
mean because think about that. I have the same doctor
that was telling me seven days prior, listen, don't take this.
This could be bad for you because you're already protected
(32:37):
with your natural immunity. And he explained it to me like, well,
you know, You've had chicken pox when you were a kid, right,
And I'm like yeah, and he's like, exactly, you didn't
take a chicken pox vaccine because now you have an
immunity to it. Seven days later, he's like, well, you
got to take it because the mayor said, so we're
going to fire you. And I'm like, is this a joke?
Speaker 7 (32:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And you know, I just couldn't do it. Like I
wanted to do it. I wanted to continue on in
my career. I wanted to move to captain. You know,
I love New York City. I love the New York
City Police Department. But I wasn't gonna. I wasn't. I
just didn't feel comfortable with it. And I felt that
like it was wrong to what they were doing to
our kids. At the same time, my kids were being
segregated in school, and I just I just couldn't. I
(33:16):
just couldn't go along with it. And so that ultimately
like kind of forced me out of my career and
then into like what I'm doing now, or I've been
speaking out and kind of you know, being the voice
of the rank and file cops in the New York
City Police Department.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Again, we're speaking to John McCary. He is the host
of the finest Unfiltered podcast. We got about a minute left.
What do you think is going to happen to New
York City now that we have a mayor man Zannie.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I think it's gonna you're gonna continue to see it
on a downward spiral you're looking at and as far
as public safety concern, crime is going to continue to rise. Uh,
you're going to continue to hear the perception management campaign
come out that crime is down from the NYPD and
from elected to fit. But they're going to continuously push out,
you know, good moral, active police officers and they're going
(34:07):
to replace them with underpaid, underpaid non non how do
I say this? Cops without guns and this new Bureau
of Community Safety that he's implementing. So I think you're
just going to see more of this failed progressive criminal
justice reform agenda in New York City. Unfortunately, I don't
(34:27):
think you're going to see things get better for a while.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
No, we won't. John McCary, thank you so much for
joining us and again, hosts of the Unfiltered podcast. Where
can they listen to you and watch you?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Absolutely? If you guys can just go over to YouTube
at to finance unfiltered. When you're in seventy thousand, we're
trying to get that's that one hundred thousand subscribe with Mark.
So appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Lit.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's always great talking to you.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Thank you. All right, guys, we got a lot more
to talk about because I'm going to be talking to
Father Pavone. He was kicked out of the priesthood. We're
going to talk to him about it. So we're talking
to one person that was forced out of the NYPD.
But that's what we do, and the reason he was
kicked out, Father Provone is for telling the truth. We
love the truth. Here on the Jesse Kelly Show, I'm
(35:09):
Lydia Sara and I at Lydia News l I D
I A N e WS. We'll be right back
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