July 29, 2025 • 37 mins
The Devine Wind Pt 2. The Battle of the Philippine Sea. Losing ground to American might. Building a special strike force.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
fantastic Tuesday. And like we do from time to time,
not all the time, not often, we're driving the show
off the rails tonight, no more politics, at least for
this hour.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm going to try to get it all done tonight.
I don't know how long it will take me, but
we are gonna do the history of the comic Colze
in World War Two.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Per your request.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It was overwhelming how many people wanted to talk about
this and learn about this. So if you missed last
night's third hour, that is a good primer to get
where we are now.
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We don't need it, but it would help. And it's free.
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iHeart Spotify iTunes, go download that, listen to it. I'm
not going to cover all the background again of the
Mongol invasion and the culture and the different things, so
tonight we are going to begin essentially where we left
off last night. Allow me to recap in about thirty
seconds to a minute. Though Japanese attack Pearl Harbor, they
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are not under the impression, contrary to popular belief that
they were going to knock us.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Out of the war.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
They knew that we were going to get in the war.
They knew that was going to get us into the war.
The intention was to slow us down enough so they
could dig in and take all the territory they wanted, Philippines,
places like that, and then they would make it too
bloody for us to take it back. We would do
what countries had really always done, sue for peace. Even
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if they lose, they win because at the end they
have more territory than they originally did. It works out
great for them. Now here's what some people may not know.
Most people have heard of the Battle of Midway, But
the Japanese were It's hard not to admire this about them.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
When you look at World War Two.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
There's all kinds of things to hate about the Japanese
and all kinds of things to love and admire. They
were majorly aggressive. Pearl Harbor was awful, right, it was terrible.
I hate it, you hate it. That's quite an aggressive move.
That's a bold move. Load up your fleet, sneak it
across the Pacific, which they did. They took off in
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the fog, sneak it across the Pacific and attack. So
I had mentioned that early in World War Two it
was going poorly for US, really for all the Allies.
Nineteen forty one nineteen forty two, these were bad years,
and Japan was running into something. They were beating us,
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or at least getting us to withdraw on many occasions,
certainly in naval battles, we would square off with the
Japanese navy, you know, our navy squaring off against their navy.
We lost a lot of those engagements. We lost a
lot of them. We were losing men. They were really good.
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Are planes in the sky Mitsubishi Everyone knows who Mitsubishi is,
the car manufacturer of Mitsubishi well as Japanese, and they
created a World War two fighter plane for the Japanese
known as the Zero. You would known as a zero
if you know anything about it. It's a Mitsubishi Zero.
It was really good. These guys were good. We were
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running into good good ships, good navy, good air. These
people are good at what they're doing. And the Japanese thought, well,
I mean, we're winning a lot of these engagements. Why
don't we keep going? But here was always the problem
lurking underneath the surface. For the Japanese. They did not
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have the industry. They did not have the economy that
could rebuild the things they would lose. Even good things
will get broken in combat. They didn't have the economy
they could rebuild it, and they didn't have the economy
that could improve it. When I say improve it, you've
heard of a Panzer tank, I'm sure that's a German tank,
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one of the German tanks that had tigers and panzers
and all kinds of things. There were several different versions
of a panzer. A panzer didn't exist. There was version one,
and version two, and version three and version They were
always improving it. As combat goes along, your enemy learns
what you can do, learns what you can't do, learns
your weaknesses, and so they're improving their counter weapons. So
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you have to improve your weapons. Japan couldn't do that.
Their first punch was brutal, of course brutal. They didn't
really have a second one. I say that because Midway comes.
Midway is a tremendous victory for America. We cannot really
fully understand what a catastrophic loss it was for Japan.
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You already know the story of Midway. Midway island. It's
an island about midway between Japan and US. It's out
in the middle of the ocean, so it got its name.
We had broken their codes. We were reading their transmissions.
We found out they were going to attack Midway and
they were going to keep going. Remember the Japanese were
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coming for Hawaii. Did you know that, not just Pearl Harbor,
they were coming back to take it. Midway was part
of the step.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
We found out they had this big fleet coming to Midway.
We brought our big fleet out to Midway, and essentially,
on a large scale, we ambush them, and we slapped
them around good, and we sunk their carriers, and we
took not only their planes out of the sky. This
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is going to matter for our kamikaze purposes, not just
their planes, their pilots. The Japanese had excellent pilots and
excellent planes. We had more. Ours were getting better by
this point in time, and we won that engagement. Don't
get me wrong, we lost a lot of great men.
The Japanese knew what they were doing. But at the
end of Midway, yes, we had some damage, plenty of damage.
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They had plenty of damage, But we are and were America,
We'll go back and make more planes. We have an
amazing training system because of our financial situation in the country,
our train you know, finances helped training too. Our pilots
would get six hundred hours of training time before they
went to combat. By the end of the Japanese involvement
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in World War Two, their pilots were going out with
two hundred hours. We just had better training. We have
more planes, more ships. We quickly replaced everything they couldn't.
After midway, they have to surrender all their plans. No
more trying to take Hawaii, no more nothing. Now Here
is the situation for Japan. And we look at this
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understandably as Americans as we begin our long, brave, hard
slug across the Pacific Island hopping on our way to
Japan to finally defeat the evil Japanese who sucker punched us.
And that is the correct way for an American to
look at that. You and me, that's correct. I'm not
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saying you're wrong or I'm wrong. How I look at
it too. Flip this, because you have to flip this
to understand the concept of kamikaze and how it came
to be. For the Japanese. As we discussed last night,
these islands are sacred to them. They're not just land.
It's not just an island. The Emperor is sacred. The
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islands themselves are sacred. And now after Midway, you have
this huge American navy that's getting bigger by the day. Remember,
by the end of World War Two, America's navy was overbuilt.
We had too many We covered the oceans. You have
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this huge American Navy with the Marines obviously in the
army as well. Think about it like Godzilla, because that's
how the Japanese thought about it. That concept came from
us slowly swimming across the Pacific, this gigantic monster of
destruction swimming its way across the Pacific towards your sacred
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island and your sacred Emperor, and they're coming to wipe
all of you out. They're coming to wipe your existence
off the map. You have to understand that's how Japan
saw this before we understand how they conducted themselves. Next,
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with the next few things that are coming, the next
big one. There are there are many land battles. I'm
skipping over huge parts of this because it's more kamakaze focused.
But the next big one is the Battle of the
Philippine Sea. But before we get to the Battle of
the Philippine Sea, since we're talking about suicides and kamakazis
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and suicide planes and suicide subs and suicide boats and
suicide torpedoes and all these other things, we keep countering
things with the Japanese during this that we can't wrap
our minds around. In fact, there's video of this. You
can actually go look it up on YouTube and look.
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It's ugly and it's dark, but it is safe for kids.
I mean, I'm not gonna I'll warn you if something's
not safe for kids. There's video in color. You can
go look at a Japanese pilot who had been shot down.
He's alive, he's intact, he's fine. A US Navy ship
pulls up beside him to pull him out of the water.
He pulls out a grenade and holds it to himself
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and blows himself up right beside the ship. This is
not a one off thing. We kept running into this.
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Jesse Kelly returns next. It is The Jesse Kelly Show
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show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Not really a
political show right now, we're talking history. We're talking the
history of the Japanese comic Colze in World War Two
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and not the least bit sorry about it. We'll get
back to politics maybe next hour, maybe tomorrow, I don't know.
All right, So we just had Midway Japanese loss. But
it was a more catastrophic loss than we understand. Because
if the Japanese send fifty planes after our fifty planes,
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and let's say each side loses twenty five planes, that
sounds even, right. It was an even battle, not even
close to an even battle, because we can replace twenty
five planes like it was nothing. Jewish producer Chris looked
up the specific number. Here's a number for you. Out
of one plant, one American plant, the United States of
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America could put out twenty to twenty five Hellcats in
one day. The Japanese couldn't come close to matching anything
like that. If we're losing the same number of things
we're winning, they can't replace them. Midway happens, and now
the Japanese know the gigantic monster Godzilla. He is crossing
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the Pacific. He's working his way across the islands, and
he's coming for their homeland. Now along the way, as
we're talking about suicide and throwing your life away for
Japan for the Emperor, Americans encounter a shocking amount of
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this during their fighting. This is not something the Allies
in Europe encountered in mass In any way. Yes, there
was lots of bravery over there on both sides and
self sacrifice on both sides. This is nothing like they
encountered in Europe. This is a This is completely unique
to the Pacific. The Japanese would be wounded or not
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wounded in pretending to be wounded, and they would just
lay there until you would come up to them and
they'd pull a grenade. I watched eb Sledge didn't Eugene
Sledge didn't write about this in his book, which is
wonderful with.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The Old Breed, But he didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I didn't read it in his book, but I watched
an interview with him where he talked about how the
Japanese would surrender and they would tuck a grenade with
a pin pulled in each armpit, and they would have
their hand up, their hands up, but their elbows would
still be kind of pressed to their side, and as
soon as they got close, boop, pop the elbows out, grenades,
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come down, kill themselves. These the Japanese would strap explosives
to themselves. When they couldn't slow down our tanks and
throw themselves onto our tanks. They used to have to
go out on what were known by some of the
troops as possum patrols. You know what a possum patrol is?
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You know what playing possu means. Playing possu means you
pretend to be dead. The American troops, especially when unsupervised,
they were so tired of Japanese soldiers coming back to
life and killing themselves to kill an American.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
They would go out after a battle.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
When they had a moment when you saw a Japanese
soldier quote dead, you shot him in the head. You
didn't walk up, you didn't try to render aid, you
didn't none of those things. You learned very early on
that guy can kill you and will kill you. He'll
kill himself to kill you. So they just stopped even
trying boom. You put one in his head right away.
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Japanese troops, in every form, killing themselves to kill you
was part of their culture. It was ingrained in their
military culture. The Kamakazi. As we work our way towards them,
it's treated as some radical new concept they came up with,
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and it you may consider it radical. I may consider
it radical. It was radical. It is not a huge
departure from how the Japanese fought that war the entire time.
And keep this in mind. They just lost midway. Godzilla
is swimming towards the islands, and they are getting more
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and more desperate the closer Godzilla gets there, as you
would be as well, desperate, desperate.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
In a way you can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And then comes the Battle of the Philippines Sea.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It all adds up. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
All this stuff adds up. But if I had to
point to one battle, one significant thing that led directly
to the creation of the Kamakaz, the special attack units,
we'll get to that, but the Kamikaze, it would be
the Battle of the Philippine Sea. I won't break down
all the details. We'll do that another time. We've talked
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about it kind of before. But our navy, our forces
are marching across the Pacific, sailing across the Pacific. Obviously
they're not Jesus. They're not walking on water, sorry, Chris.
They're marching across the Pacific. And the Japanese by now,
as we discussed, they can't really replace their ships. They
can't replace their good pilots. They don't have the money,
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the resources for a good pilot training program, and so
they're really down to kind of the last of their
good planes. And they've lost already most of their good pilots,
but not all of their good pilots.
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And they look at.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
This fleet and they decide, we have to throw all
of our ships, all of our planes at the Americans.
Now we have to fight the Battle of the Philippine
Sea as if it is everything. And so they loaded
up everything they had and they sent it at the Americans.
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Back to our story about the comic cause, see Godzilla
is getting closer to the islands of Japan. Soon the
Japanese decide they need to throw everything at us in
the Philippine Sea. Now, the Philippines we will get to
in a few minutes, because that's really where this whole
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thing kind of kicks off, the Kamakazi stuff kicks off.
But the Philippines are now and were then a wild,
wild place. I heard or read a stat on the
Philippines that they have something like seven thousand islands. Isn't
that completely bonkers? You don't think about the Philippines in
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that way whatever you know about at least I did,
and obviously I knew it's an island chain thousands. That
seems crazy. But not only was it crazy, it's crazy
rich in resources. The Philippines they have all the resources
Japan wanted. And it's not an accident. You know, the
Baton death, that was the Philippines. Okay, that was the Philippines.
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Why would the Japanese pounce on us in the Philippines
right after Pearl Harbor. Why were they so hot to
take this place? It was maybe the place they prized
the most as far as resources go. They wanted to
take it, they wanted to hold it, and frankly, as
the war fought on, they had to hold it. Besides
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the Japanese home islands themselves, they valued the Philippines probably
more than anything else because they had to have those resources.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
They had to have them.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Which brings us to the Philippine Sea. They drag up
whatever navy they have left, They drag up the planes
they have left, they drag up the pilots they have left,
and they throw them at us in the Battle of
the Philippine Sea. The Battle of the Philippine Sea, maybe
you haven't heard of before, because you know what the
Americans called it, The Great Marianna's Turkey shit, That's.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What they called it. Why would they call it that.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
We just completely annihilated them. The Japan of early nineteen
forty two. They could take out our ships. They're pilots
who could take out our pilots. That Japan was gone.
The ships were rotted to shoot. The gasoline was bad,
the pilots were bad.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
The planes.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Remember that Great Mitsubishi Zero, which was great in the beginning. Well,
they still had some Mitsubishi zeros. But you know what
America was doing with all of its money, with all
of its resources, advancing getting better planes, better, this better
that we're churning out coursairs now in hellcats. Don't worry
about specifically what those are. Just know they're better, bigger, stronger, faster.
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The Mitsubishi zero as the same as it ever was.
They couldn't improve it, didn't have the materials, didn't have
the money, didn't have anything.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
They rolled out.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All their best stuff that they had in the Philippine
Sea and got completely wiped out, swept off the ocean.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
In the air, in the sea.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Now, that is not a huge battle for US historically.
I mean, people know about it, who know about World
War two. But I'm going to describe that battle. This
is the best way I'll describe that battle. I want
I want you to picture this as an American, You
an American. Let's say we have in our military is
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much bigger than this. Let's say we have five hundred
thousand troops, Army, marines, all those things. Five hundred thousand troops.
Let's say the Chinese they land a couple million troops
on the shore of California and they start making their
way towards Washington, d C. To wipe out our government
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and take over our country. We take all five hundred
thousand troops and we send them out to California. We're
gonna stop the Chinese here. In fact, this is all
we have. We have to stop the Chinese here. If
they take out all these troops, what stands between them
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in Washington, DC. We have to stop them here. And
then you wake up tomorrow morning. You roll over, wipe
the sleep out of your eyes. You pick up your phone,
and the headline, the first headline you read is all
five hundred thousand troops lost in California. That's what the
Battle of the Philippines Sea was for Japan. You just
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threw all you had left at us, and we wiped
it out without even losing that much. That was the
last of your traditional I want to stress this, that
was the last of your traditional forces. Our destroyers taking
on your destroyers, our fighters taking on your fighters are
subs versus. You tried one last big traditional battle and
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you didn't even scratch us. You got crushed, and now
you have nothing left. What are you thinking now in Japan. Well,
here's the thing about warfare, and it is one thing
I definitely have learned in all my time reading about
history and watching history, geeking out on it the same
way you geek out on it. You know who wants
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to fight traditionally and insists on fighting traditionally the more
powerful country every single time.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
You know who.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Resorts to tactics that are thought of as dirty, gorilla
not fair, the weaker power. Everybody wants to fight traditionally.
I don't want to become a guerrilla fighter. You don't
want to become a gorilla fighter. I want to raise
my army and raise my ships, and raise my air force,
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and I want to be more powerful than yours and
wipe you off the sea, and wipe you off the land,
and wipe you out of the air. But if those
options become no longer available to me, then I either
lay down my arms and quit, or I throw out
tradition and I have to go with other means. So
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Japan had a choice to make. Now what are those
other means? Well, as we discussed last night, you would
kind of need the third hour of last night show,
or at least know what I'm talking about. To really
fully understand this, what is the thing that Japan still has.
They may not have the ships, they may not have
the fuel, they may not have all the fight and
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all the modern fighter planes and the bombs and everything else.
But what do they still have. They still have an
entire country of people who have been nurtured and trained.
You'd call it indoctrinated in a willingness to die for
the emperor, in a willingness to die for the country.
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And that may not be as valuable as an American
aircraft carrier, It may not be as valuable as fifty
hell cats with well trained pilots.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
But it's all you've got. If it's all you've got,
then you better lead with that.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You better use it, because it's all you've got. When
I was in sales and selling r vs, I didn't
know anything about our vs, no that nothing.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I had never sold RV's before. I knew nothing. You
know what I could do.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I can make you laugh, I could make you relax,
make you laugh and talk. Guess what I didn't want
to do. I didn't Well, the wall is actually three
quarters of an inch thick. YEP, I can't do it.
I don't have that option available to me. I'll tell
you a stupid joke. I'll make you laugh. You lead
with whatever you've got. The Battle of the Philippine Sea,
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they had to lead with their people, but they also
didn't have the pilots left. As we talked about America, really,
I mean, we really did it so smart. Our pilots
are experienced pilots, you know. We'd have these pilots and
they'd go, they'd fight, they'd get these kills and fight
and get kills, and fight and get kills, and then
we would rotate them out. We didn't want them staying
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in combat till they died. We'd rotate them back to America.
And so these super experienced pilots were training the next
generation of pilots, getting the ultimate education. Japan didn't and
Japan couldn't. They didn't have the numbers. Their experienced pilots
are gone.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
What do you do as Godzilla swims towards the Philippines,
which you need? You create a special attack force. Next,
Jesse Kelly, it is that Jess see Kelly's show on
a Wonderful Tuesday. Talk in the history of Japanese kamakazis.
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If you miss any part of the show last night
at the beginning of it, well it was a third
hour of last night. Any part of the show ever,
iHeart Spotify iTunes. Japanese lose the Battle of the Philippines Sea.
They can't fight traditionally anymore, and so they come up
with a plan. They decide to use what they have,
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and what they have is a country full of people
who will will die for it, will die for the emperor,
including young pilots. And they even start scarfing up people
who had previously been exempted from military service. And this
is something that happens in every country when it starts
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to lose a war. And whenever a country does this,
when we read about it or talk about it, we
always kind of look down on them. Oh, look at
that they're conscripting teenagers. Look at that they're conscripting older people.
How could they do that? But the truth is every
country does it when that country gets desperate enough. When
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the situation gets desperate enough, countries will do it. Countries
will well, they'll grab what they have. They started grabbing
young Japanese men, some of whom were completely exempted from this,
some of whom were already in pilot school. And they
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handed them a sheet of paper, and on this sheet
of paper it had three choices on it. It's kind
of hilarious. But the three choices were I will enthusiastically
they're asking them if you'll be a kamikaze pilot, I
will enthusiastically die for the emperor, I will die for
the emperor, or I refuse to die for the emperor.
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Two of the three were I'll die for the emperor
and I do not want to sit here and act
as if they were all forced to or coerced. Many
were all we have to really figure out what's inside
of their minds? Are the letters they wrote back home.
The stories will differ depending on which book you're reading,
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or which documentary you're watching or podcast you're listening to.
But the number I kept hearing fairly consistently was about
two thirds of the comic cozies were volunteers, willing, completely willing.
As it went on, the volunteers became less and less
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and they had to kind of force more people, but
they did find a willing population. Now, pause on everything,
and let's describe the few different kinds of comic cozes,
because we're only really going to focus on the one
really main one, the one.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Most successful one.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
There were kami kazi boats. These are tiny little boats.
They're not very big. Japan was so hurting for parts
at this time that they were putting car engines in
these little boats. You know, you don't have to sink
any money into the material of the boat. You just
have to get it to where it's going, and you
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have to load enough explosives into it.
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It was paper mache. I mean, it was.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Lightwood with a car engine and a bunch of explosives
in it. And the idea was you zoom this boat
up to a big American ship and simply crash it
into the side of it. It had a fuse sticking
out the end, and when the fuse hit boom. The
reason you haven't heard that much about these is, I'm
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sure it happened. I could not find a documented recording
of a kill of one of these things. It may
have happened. Don't get me wrong. You could welcome to
email me and correct me. I'm not saying it didn't happen.
If it happened, it was rare. The reason we know
so much about these boats is after we ended up
spoiler Alert, winning the war and taking over Japan, we
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discovered legions of these boats all over Japan. They were preparing,
They were preparing for Godzilla to be ray outside of
the island. Also another form submarines. Now people confuse these two.
The Japanese had Kamikazi submarines and Kamakazi torpedoes. Believe it
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or not, those are two different things. The submarines. Again,
I'm sure there were hits. I'm sure they were kills.
It was never done that successfully. Remember, submarine technology in
World War Two on every side was nothing close to
what it is today. You need to set aside your
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modern thinking of it. When a submarine went underwater back then,
because of the technology they had, it was one easily
visible to a plane flying overhead. You're going to look
down and see that's a submarine. It's very obvious. Have
you ever seen a helicopter flying over a beach today
looking at sharks? How obvious are the sharks? You look down,
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you see them. That's how obvious a submarine would have been.
It's not only obvious that it's there. They're super slow,
majorly slow, way slower, than any ship. If you were
a submarine and you got seen, you were in deep trouble.
So they didn't get a huge amount of success either.
But also another thing we discovered when we took over
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Japan at the end of the war, they were building
legions of these boats submarines to take out Godzilla. There
was also a Japanese torpedo. Really freaking cool, by the way,
a Japanese torpedo that is exactly what it sounds like.
They would put some poor sap. They created essentially a
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cockpit in a torpedo Japanese. Yeah, Chris, it was amazing.
And the Japanese had amazing torpedoes. They were called long
lance long lance torpedoes, which I know is a cool name.
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Long lance torpedoes.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
They found a way to put a pilot in one
so he could I mean torpedoes much faster than a submarine,
so they could launch him from something at an American
chip and he could guide it into the side of
the American ship. The reason I'm mentioning all these things
in passing is not because they're not cool. They're all
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kind of cool in a way. It's wild to think
of the different ways they were planning on using their
people who were willing to die. But I just kind
of passed over most of these because they just were
never employed in any significant way, and they never did
any amount of significant damage. I am not, of course,
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dismissing any loss of life that did come from these things,
or Americans, Sayler's Marines, who were killed by these things.
I just can't find much of a record of it.
And I looked, I looked at if there was a
significant loss, I've never read about it ever. May have
been a little ship here hurt or a little ship
there hurt. They just didn't do very much damage. What
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did do unbelievable amounts of damage than more than you
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Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
fantastic Tuesday. And like we do from time to time,
not all the time, not often, we're driving the show
off the rails tonight, no more politics, at least for
this hour.
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I'm going to try to get it all done tonight.
I don't know how long it will take me, but
we are gonna do the history of the comic Colze
in World War Two.
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Per your request.
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It was overwhelming how many people wanted to talk about
this and learn about this. So if you missed last
night's third hour, that is a good primer to get
where we are now.
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iHeart Spotify iTunes, go download that, listen to it. I'm
not going to cover all the background again of the
Mongol invasion and the culture and the different things, so
tonight we are going to begin essentially where we left
off last night. Allow me to recap in about thirty
seconds to a minute. Though Japanese attack Pearl Harbor, they
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are not under the impression, contrary to popular belief that
they were going to knock us.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Out of the war.
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They knew that we were going to get in the war.
They knew that was going to get us into the war.
The intention was to slow us down enough so they
could dig in and take all the territory they wanted, Philippines,
places like that, and then they would make it too
bloody for us to take it back. We would do
what countries had really always done, sue for peace. Even
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if they lose, they win because at the end they
have more territory than they originally did. It works out
great for them. Now here's what some people may not know.
Most people have heard of the Battle of Midway, But
the Japanese were It's hard not to admire this about them.
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When you look at World War Two.
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There's all kinds of things to hate about the Japanese
and all kinds of things to love and admire. They
were majorly aggressive. Pearl Harbor was awful, right, it was terrible.
I hate it, you hate it. That's quite an aggressive move.
That's a bold move. Load up your fleet, sneak it
across the Pacific, which they did. They took off in
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the fog, sneak it across the Pacific and attack. So
I had mentioned that early in World War Two it
was going poorly for US, really for all the Allies.
Nineteen forty one nineteen forty two, these were bad years,
and Japan was running into something. They were beating us,
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or at least getting us to withdraw on many occasions,
certainly in naval battles, we would square off with the
Japanese navy, you know, our navy squaring off against their navy.
We lost a lot of those engagements. We lost a
lot of them. We were losing men. They were really good.
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Are planes in the sky Mitsubishi Everyone knows who Mitsubishi is,
the car manufacturer of Mitsubishi well as Japanese, and they
created a World War two fighter plane for the Japanese
known as the Zero. You would known as a zero
if you know anything about it. It's a Mitsubishi Zero.
It was really good. These guys were good. We were
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running into good good ships, good navy, good air. These
people are good at what they're doing. And the Japanese thought, well,
I mean, we're winning a lot of these engagements. Why
don't we keep going? But here was always the problem
lurking underneath the surface. For the Japanese. They did not
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have the industry. They did not have the economy that
could rebuild the things they would lose. Even good things
will get broken in combat. They didn't have the economy
they could rebuild it, and they didn't have the economy
that could improve it. When I say improve it, you've
heard of a Panzer tank, I'm sure that's a German tank,
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one of the German tanks that had tigers and panzers
and all kinds of things. There were several different versions
of a panzer. A panzer didn't exist. There was version one,
and version two, and version three and version They were
always improving it. As combat goes along, your enemy learns
what you can do, learns what you can't do, learns
your weaknesses, and so they're improving their counter weapons. So
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you have to improve your weapons. Japan couldn't do that.
Their first punch was brutal, of course brutal. They didn't
really have a second one. I say that because Midway comes.
Midway is a tremendous victory for America. We cannot really
fully understand what a catastrophic loss it was for Japan.
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You already know the story of Midway. Midway island. It's
an island about midway between Japan and US. It's out
in the middle of the ocean, so it got its name.
We had broken their codes. We were reading their transmissions.
We found out they were going to attack Midway and
they were going to keep going. Remember the Japanese were
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coming for Hawaii. Did you know that, not just Pearl Harbor,
they were coming back to take it. Midway was part
of the step.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
To do that.
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We found out they had this big fleet coming to Midway.
We brought our big fleet out to Midway, and essentially,
on a large scale, we ambush them, and we slapped
them around good, and we sunk their carriers, and we
took not only their planes out of the sky. This
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is going to matter for our kamikaze purposes, not just
their planes, their pilots. The Japanese had excellent pilots and
excellent planes. We had more. Ours were getting better by
this point in time, and we won that engagement. Don't
get me wrong, we lost a lot of great men.
The Japanese knew what they were doing. But at the
end of Midway, yes, we had some damage, plenty of damage.
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They had plenty of damage, But we are and were America,
We'll go back and make more planes. We have an
amazing training system because of our financial situation in the country,
our train you know, finances helped training too. Our pilots
would get six hundred hours of training time before they
went to combat. By the end of the Japanese involvement
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in World War Two, their pilots were going out with
two hundred hours. We just had better training. We have
more planes, more ships. We quickly replaced everything they couldn't.
After midway, they have to surrender all their plans. No
more trying to take Hawaii, no more nothing. Now Here
is the situation for Japan. And we look at this
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understandably as Americans as we begin our long, brave, hard
slug across the Pacific Island hopping on our way to
Japan to finally defeat the evil Japanese who sucker punched us.
And that is the correct way for an American to
look at that. You and me, that's correct. I'm not
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saying you're wrong or I'm wrong. How I look at
it too. Flip this, because you have to flip this
to understand the concept of kamikaze and how it came
to be. For the Japanese. As we discussed last night,
these islands are sacred to them. They're not just land.
It's not just an island. The Emperor is sacred. The
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islands themselves are sacred. And now after Midway, you have
this huge American navy that's getting bigger by the day. Remember,
by the end of World War Two, America's navy was overbuilt.
We had too many We covered the oceans. You have
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this huge American Navy with the Marines obviously in the
army as well. Think about it like Godzilla, because that's
how the Japanese thought about it. That concept came from
us slowly swimming across the Pacific, this gigantic monster of
destruction swimming its way across the Pacific towards your sacred
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island and your sacred Emperor, and they're coming to wipe
all of you out. They're coming to wipe your existence
off the map. You have to understand that's how Japan
saw this before we understand how they conducted themselves. Next,
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with the next few things that are coming, the next
big one. There are there are many land battles. I'm
skipping over huge parts of this because it's more kamakaze focused.
But the next big one is the Battle of the
Philippine Sea. But before we get to the Battle of
the Philippine Sea, since we're talking about suicides and kamakazis
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and suicide planes and suicide subs and suicide boats and
suicide torpedoes and all these other things, we keep countering
things with the Japanese during this that we can't wrap
our minds around. In fact, there's video of this. You
can actually go look it up on YouTube and look.
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It's ugly and it's dark, but it is safe for kids.
I mean, I'm not gonna I'll warn you if something's
not safe for kids. There's video in color. You can
go look at a Japanese pilot who had been shot down.
He's alive, he's intact, he's fine. A US Navy ship
pulls up beside him to pull him out of the water.
He pulls out a grenade and holds it to himself
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and blows himself up right beside the ship. This is
not a one off thing. We kept running into this.
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Jesse Kelly returns next. It is The Jesse Kelly Show
on a fan fantastic Tuesday. Remember you can email the
show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Not really a
political show right now, we're talking history. We're talking the
history of the Japanese comic Colze in World War Two
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and not the least bit sorry about it. We'll get
back to politics maybe next hour, maybe tomorrow, I don't know.
All right, So we just had Midway Japanese loss. But
it was a more catastrophic loss than we understand. Because
if the Japanese send fifty planes after our fifty planes,
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and let's say each side loses twenty five planes, that
sounds even, right. It was an even battle, not even
close to an even battle, because we can replace twenty
five planes like it was nothing. Jewish producer Chris looked
up the specific number. Here's a number for you. Out
of one plant, one American plant, the United States of
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America could put out twenty to twenty five Hellcats in
one day. The Japanese couldn't come close to matching anything
like that. If we're losing the same number of things
we're winning, they can't replace them. Midway happens, and now
the Japanese know the gigantic monster Godzilla. He is crossing
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the Pacific. He's working his way across the islands, and
he's coming for their homeland. Now along the way, as
we're talking about suicide and throwing your life away for
Japan for the Emperor, Americans encounter a shocking amount of
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this during their fighting. This is not something the Allies
in Europe encountered in mass In any way. Yes, there
was lots of bravery over there on both sides and
self sacrifice on both sides. This is nothing like they
encountered in Europe. This is a This is completely unique
to the Pacific. The Japanese would be wounded or not
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wounded in pretending to be wounded, and they would just
lay there until you would come up to them and
they'd pull a grenade. I watched eb Sledge didn't Eugene
Sledge didn't write about this in his book, which is
wonderful with.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The Old Breed, But he didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I didn't read it in his book, but I watched
an interview with him where he talked about how the
Japanese would surrender and they would tuck a grenade with
a pin pulled in each armpit, and they would have
their hand up, their hands up, but their elbows would
still be kind of pressed to their side, and as
soon as they got close, boop, pop the elbows out, grenades,
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come down, kill themselves. These the Japanese would strap explosives
to themselves. When they couldn't slow down our tanks and
throw themselves onto our tanks. They used to have to
go out on what were known by some of the
troops as possum patrols. You know what a possum patrol is?
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You know what playing possu means. Playing possu means you
pretend to be dead. The American troops, especially when unsupervised,
they were so tired of Japanese soldiers coming back to
life and killing themselves to kill an American.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
They would go out after a battle.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
When they had a moment when you saw a Japanese
soldier quote dead, you shot him in the head. You
didn't walk up, you didn't try to render aid, you
didn't none of those things. You learned very early on
that guy can kill you and will kill you. He'll
kill himself to kill you. So they just stopped even
trying boom. You put one in his head right away.
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Japanese troops, in every form, killing themselves to kill you
was part of their culture. It was ingrained in their
military culture. The Kamakazi. As we work our way towards them,
it's treated as some radical new concept they came up with,
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and it you may consider it radical. I may consider
it radical. It was radical. It is not a huge
departure from how the Japanese fought that war the entire time.
And keep this in mind. They just lost midway. Godzilla
is swimming towards the islands, and they are getting more
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and more desperate the closer Godzilla gets there, as you
would be as well, desperate, desperate.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
In a way you can't imagine.
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And then comes the Battle of the Philippines Sea.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It all adds up. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
All this stuff adds up. But if I had to
point to one battle, one significant thing that led directly
to the creation of the Kamakaz, the special attack units,
we'll get to that, but the Kamikaze, it would be
the Battle of the Philippine Sea. I won't break down
all the details. We'll do that another time. We've talked
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about it kind of before. But our navy, our forces
are marching across the Pacific, sailing across the Pacific. Obviously
they're not Jesus. They're not walking on water, sorry, Chris.
They're marching across the Pacific. And the Japanese by now,
as we discussed, they can't really replace their ships. They
can't replace their good pilots. They don't have the money,
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the resources for a good pilot training program, and so
they're really down to kind of the last of their
good planes. And they've lost already most of their good pilots,
but not all of their good pilots.
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And they look at.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
This fleet and they decide, we have to throw all
of our ships, all of our planes at the Americans.
Now we have to fight the Battle of the Philippine
Sea as if it is everything. And so they loaded
up everything they had and they sent it at the Americans.
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Back to our story about the comic cause, see Godzilla
is getting closer to the islands of Japan. Soon the
Japanese decide they need to throw everything at us in
the Philippine Sea. Now, the Philippines we will get to
in a few minutes, because that's really where this whole
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thing kind of kicks off, the Kamakazi stuff kicks off.
But the Philippines are now and were then a wild,
wild place. I heard or read a stat on the
Philippines that they have something like seven thousand islands. Isn't
that completely bonkers? You don't think about the Philippines in
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that way whatever you know about at least I did,
and obviously I knew it's an island chain thousands. That
seems crazy. But not only was it crazy, it's crazy
rich in resources. The Philippines they have all the resources
Japan wanted. And it's not an accident. You know, the
Baton death, that was the Philippines. Okay, that was the Philippines.
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Why would the Japanese pounce on us in the Philippines
right after Pearl Harbor. Why were they so hot to
take this place? It was maybe the place they prized
the most as far as resources go. They wanted to
take it, they wanted to hold it, and frankly, as
the war fought on, they had to hold it. Besides
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the Japanese home islands themselves, they valued the Philippines probably
more than anything else because they had to have those resources.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
They had to have them.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Which brings us to the Philippine Sea. They drag up
whatever navy they have left, They drag up the planes
they have left, they drag up the pilots they have left,
and they throw them at us in the Battle of
the Philippine Sea. The Battle of the Philippine Sea, maybe
you haven't heard of before, because you know what the
Americans called it, The Great Marianna's Turkey shit, That's.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What they called it. Why would they call it that.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
We just completely annihilated them. The Japan of early nineteen
forty two. They could take out our ships. They're pilots
who could take out our pilots. That Japan was gone.
The ships were rotted to shoot. The gasoline was bad,
the pilots were bad.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
The planes.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Remember that Great Mitsubishi Zero, which was great in the beginning. Well,
they still had some Mitsubishi zeros. But you know what
America was doing with all of its money, with all
of its resources, advancing getting better planes, better, this better
that we're churning out coursairs now in hellcats. Don't worry
about specifically what those are. Just know they're better, bigger, stronger, faster.
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The Mitsubishi zero as the same as it ever was.
They couldn't improve it, didn't have the materials, didn't have
the money, didn't have anything.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
They rolled out.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All their best stuff that they had in the Philippine
Sea and got completely wiped out, swept off the ocean.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
In the air, in the sea.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Now, that is not a huge battle for US historically.
I mean, people know about it, who know about World
War two. But I'm going to describe that battle. This
is the best way I'll describe that battle. I want
I want you to picture this as an American, You
an American. Let's say we have in our military is
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much bigger than this. Let's say we have five hundred
thousand troops, Army, marines, all those things. Five hundred thousand troops.
Let's say the Chinese they land a couple million troops
on the shore of California and they start making their
way towards Washington, d C. To wipe out our government
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and take over our country. We take all five hundred
thousand troops and we send them out to California. We're
gonna stop the Chinese here. In fact, this is all
we have. We have to stop the Chinese here. If
they take out all these troops, what stands between them
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in Washington, DC. We have to stop them here. And
then you wake up tomorrow morning. You roll over, wipe
the sleep out of your eyes. You pick up your phone,
and the headline, the first headline you read is all
five hundred thousand troops lost in California. That's what the
Battle of the Philippines Sea was for Japan. You just
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threw all you had left at us, and we wiped
it out without even losing that much. That was the
last of your traditional I want to stress this, that
was the last of your traditional forces. Our destroyers taking
on your destroyers, our fighters taking on your fighters are
subs versus. You tried one last big traditional battle and
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you didn't even scratch us. You got crushed, and now
you have nothing left. What are you thinking now in Japan. Well,
here's the thing about warfare, and it is one thing
I definitely have learned in all my time reading about
history and watching history, geeking out on it the same
way you geek out on it. You know who wants
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to fight traditionally and insists on fighting traditionally the more
powerful country every single time.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
You know who.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Resorts to tactics that are thought of as dirty, gorilla
not fair, the weaker power. Everybody wants to fight traditionally.
I don't want to become a guerrilla fighter. You don't
want to become a gorilla fighter. I want to raise
my army and raise my ships, and raise my air force,
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and I want to be more powerful than yours and
wipe you off the sea, and wipe you off the land,
and wipe you out of the air. But if those
options become no longer available to me, then I either
lay down my arms and quit, or I throw out
tradition and I have to go with other means. So
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Japan had a choice to make. Now what are those
other means? Well, as we discussed last night, you would
kind of need the third hour of last night show,
or at least know what I'm talking about. To really
fully understand this, what is the thing that Japan still has.
They may not have the ships, they may not have
the fuel, they may not have all the fight and
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all the modern fighter planes and the bombs and everything else.
But what do they still have. They still have an
entire country of people who have been nurtured and trained.
You'd call it indoctrinated in a willingness to die for
the emperor, in a willingness to die for the country.
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And that may not be as valuable as an American
aircraft carrier, It may not be as valuable as fifty
hell cats with well trained pilots.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
But it's all you've got. If it's all you've got,
then you better lead with that.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You better use it, because it's all you've got. When
I was in sales and selling r vs, I didn't
know anything about our vs, no that nothing.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I had never sold RV's before. I knew nothing. You
know what I could do.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I can make you laugh, I could make you relax,
make you laugh and talk. Guess what I didn't want
to do. I didn't Well, the wall is actually three
quarters of an inch thick. YEP, I can't do it.
I don't have that option available to me. I'll tell
you a stupid joke. I'll make you laugh. You lead
with whatever you've got. The Battle of the Philippine Sea,
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they had to lead with their people, but they also
didn't have the pilots left. As we talked about America, really,
I mean, we really did it so smart. Our pilots
are experienced pilots, you know. We'd have these pilots and
they'd go, they'd fight, they'd get these kills and fight
and get kills, and fight and get kills, and then
we would rotate them out. We didn't want them staying
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in combat till they died. We'd rotate them back to America.
And so these super experienced pilots were training the next
generation of pilots, getting the ultimate education. Japan didn't and
Japan couldn't. They didn't have the numbers. Their experienced pilots
are gone.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
What do you do as Godzilla swims towards the Philippines,
which you need? You create a special attack force. Next,
Jesse Kelly, it is that Jess see Kelly's show on
a Wonderful Tuesday. Talk in the history of Japanese kamakazis.
(29:06):
If you miss any part of the show last night
at the beginning of it, well it was a third
hour of last night. Any part of the show ever,
iHeart Spotify iTunes. Japanese lose the Battle of the Philippines Sea.
They can't fight traditionally anymore, and so they come up
with a plan. They decide to use what they have,
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and what they have is a country full of people
who will will die for it, will die for the emperor,
including young pilots. And they even start scarfing up people
who had previously been exempted from military service. And this
is something that happens in every country when it starts
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to lose a war. And whenever a country does this,
when we read about it or talk about it, we
always kind of look down on them. Oh, look at
that they're conscripting teenagers. Look at that they're conscripting older people.
How could they do that? But the truth is every
country does it when that country gets desperate enough. When
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the situation gets desperate enough, countries will do it. Countries
will well, they'll grab what they have. They started grabbing
young Japanese men, some of whom were completely exempted from this,
some of whom were already in pilot school. And they
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handed them a sheet of paper, and on this sheet
of paper it had three choices on it. It's kind
of hilarious. But the three choices were I will enthusiastically
they're asking them if you'll be a kamikaze pilot, I
will enthusiastically die for the emperor, I will die for
the emperor, or I refuse to die for the emperor.
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Two of the three were I'll die for the emperor
and I do not want to sit here and act
as if they were all forced to or coerced. Many
were all we have to really figure out what's inside
of their minds? Are the letters they wrote back home.
The stories will differ depending on which book you're reading,
(31:17):
or which documentary you're watching or podcast you're listening to.
But the number I kept hearing fairly consistently was about
two thirds of the comic cozies were volunteers, willing, completely willing.
As it went on, the volunteers became less and less
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and they had to kind of force more people, but
they did find a willing population. Now, pause on everything,
and let's describe the few different kinds of comic cozes,
because we're only really going to focus on the one
really main one, the one.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Most successful one.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
There were kami kazi boats. These are tiny little boats.
They're not very big. Japan was so hurting for parts
at this time that they were putting car engines in
these little boats. You know, you don't have to sink
any money into the material of the boat. You just
have to get it to where it's going, and you
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have to load enough explosives into it.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It was paper mache. I mean, it was.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Lightwood with a car engine and a bunch of explosives
in it. And the idea was you zoom this boat
up to a big American ship and simply crash it
into the side of it. It had a fuse sticking
out the end, and when the fuse hit boom. The
reason you haven't heard that much about these is, I'm
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sure it happened. I could not find a documented recording
of a kill of one of these things. It may
have happened. Don't get me wrong. You could welcome to
email me and correct me. I'm not saying it didn't happen.
If it happened, it was rare. The reason we know
so much about these boats is after we ended up
spoiler Alert, winning the war and taking over Japan, we
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discovered legions of these boats all over Japan. They were preparing,
They were preparing for Godzilla to be ray outside of
the island. Also another form submarines. Now people confuse these two.
The Japanese had Kamikazi submarines and Kamakazi torpedoes. Believe it
(33:30):
or not, those are two different things. The submarines. Again,
I'm sure there were hits. I'm sure they were kills.
It was never done that successfully. Remember, submarine technology in
World War Two on every side was nothing close to
what it is today. You need to set aside your
(33:51):
modern thinking of it. When a submarine went underwater back then,
because of the technology they had, it was one easily
visible to a plane flying overhead. You're going to look
down and see that's a submarine. It's very obvious. Have
you ever seen a helicopter flying over a beach today
looking at sharks? How obvious are the sharks? You look down,
(34:14):
you see them. That's how obvious a submarine would have been.
It's not only obvious that it's there. They're super slow,
majorly slow, way slower, than any ship. If you were
a submarine and you got seen, you were in deep trouble.
So they didn't get a huge amount of success either.
But also another thing we discovered when we took over
(34:37):
Japan at the end of the war, they were building
legions of these boats submarines to take out Godzilla. There
was also a Japanese torpedo. Really freaking cool, by the way,
a Japanese torpedo that is exactly what it sounds like.
They would put some poor sap. They created essentially a
(34:57):
cockpit in a torpedo Japanese. Yeah, Chris, it was amazing.
And the Japanese had amazing torpedoes. They were called long
lance long lance torpedoes, which I know is a cool name.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Long lance torpedoes.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
They found a way to put a pilot in one
so he could I mean torpedoes much faster than a submarine,
so they could launch him from something at an American
chip and he could guide it into the side of
the American ship. The reason I'm mentioning all these things
in passing is not because they're not cool. They're all
(35:35):
kind of cool in a way. It's wild to think
of the different ways they were planning on using their
people who were willing to die. But I just kind
of passed over most of these because they just were
never employed in any significant way, and they never did
any amount of significant damage. I am not, of course,
(35:55):
dismissing any loss of life that did come from these things,
or Americans, Sayler's Marines, who were killed by these things.
I just can't find much of a record of it.
And I looked, I looked at if there was a
significant loss, I've never read about it ever. May have
been a little ship here hurt or a little ship
there hurt. They just didn't do very much damage. What
(36:16):
did do unbelievable amounts of damage than more than you
know about. Are the planes as we sailed towards the Philippines,
the kamikaze were deployed. We'll hopefully finish up our talk next,
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