Hour 2: Rhodesian Bush War Part 4

The fall of Mozambique. Medal of Honor: Archie van Winkle

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Kay, the Jesse Kelly Show.
Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
wonderful Monday. But we're setting aside all politics now because
it's the start of the second hour on Monday. We're
gonna do Medal of Honor Monday. Then we're gonna go

(00:31):
back into the history of the Rhodesian Bush War. And look,
we'll be back to politics next hour. There's all kinds
of stuff we have to get to Ukraine, stuff, emails,
the Biden administration, what they did with Social Security numbers
and more. But you know what now is we find
an American hero, someone who earned a Medal of Honor,

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and we remember his name and we remember his deeds.
And this is something I really want to encourage you
to do this in your own life life in some way.
I didn't do any of these things. Trust me, I'm
not that guy. I'm just reading them. You can do
this yourself. You can do this in your home. You
can do this in your work, in your Sunday school,

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in your school. You can talk about these people. You
can talk about Archie van Winkle. Archie van Winkle was
born in Juneo, Alaska, nineteen forty two. He goes and
signs up for the Marine Corps to go fight in
World War Two, and he does. Goes and fights in
World War two, comes back from World War Two, survives

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and gets out, goes back to regular life. Right then
Korea kicks off. Archie Van Winkle says, well, I want
to get down on that. Goes right back into the
Marine Corps and off to Korea. He goes, and let's
find out exactly what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. It's Medal
of Honor Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life,
above and beyond the call of duty while serving as
a platoon sergeant in Company B in action against enemy
aggressor forces, immediately rallying his men in his area. After
a fanatical and numerically superior enemy force penetrated the center

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of the line under cover of darkness and pinned down
the platoon with a devastating barrage of deadly automatic weapons
in grenade fire, Staff Sergeant Van Winkle boldly spearheaded a
determined attack through withering fire against hostile frontal positions and
though he and others who charged with him were wounded,

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succeeded in enabling his platoon to gain the fire superiority
and the opportunity to reorganize. Realizing that the left flank
squad was isolated from the rest of the unit, he
rushed through forty yards of fierce enemy fire to reunite
his troops, despite an elbow wound which rendered one of

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his arms totally useless. Severely wounded a second time when
a direct hit in the chest from a hostile hand
grenade caused serious and painful wounds, he staunchly refused evacuation
and continued to shout orders and words of encouragement to
his depleted and battered patoon. Finally carried from his position

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unconscious from shock and loss of blood, Staff Sergeant Van
Winkle served to inspire all who observed him to heroic
efforts in successfully repulsing the enemy attack. His superb leadership,
valiant fighting spirit, and unfaltering devotion to duty in the
face of heavy odds reflect the highest credit upon himself

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in the US Naval Service. How about that guy moved
on and lived until nineteen eighty six, And I don't
know why. I always thought this was cool ashes scattered
at sea, and it's ashes scattered at sea. Kind of cool.
I'm not wrong about that, Chris. Kind of cool, right,
kind of cool. All right, So let's do just a

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couple minutes of background in case you're just now hearing it,
which I doubt you are, so I already told you
last Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday in hour two, I've been
chronologically going through the Rhodesian Bush War all right now.
To set it up, it was a tribal conflict. Originally,

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the British came in essentially colonized the place, turned it
into a thriving, wealthy, wealthy country where you had to
have There were all kinds of restrictions on voting. And
keep in mind, we're talking about a million two million
black Africans here, a couple hundred thousand Europeans here. Yet

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nine percent of the people who were eligible to vote
were white Europeans. This is post World War two. The
world's chafing on that, Britain's chafing on it so bad
trying to get them to change it, Rhodesia flat out
rebelled and just declared independence. They said, we're our own
country now, We're no longer your colony. And this is

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at a time on the planet where the Communists, especially
the Soviet Union, Cuba and China, they are training rebels
and insurgents all over the globe to infiltrate, infect and
bring down any country that is not a communist country.
And since the sixties, these gorillas have been going into Rhodesia. Now,

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also keep this in mind a couple of things. As
I mentioned, the world sold this whole thing as white
versus black, all the liberal college professors and idiots in
the media and politics. It was not that at all.
White people and black people were working hand in hand
in Rowandisia. More than half of the Cellas Scouts, one

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of their special forces type units, more than half of
them were black. The Rhodesian Light Infantry hugely black. It's
a complete lie to think it was white versus black.
That's how the world sold it as this Nazi state apartheid.
That's not how it was at all. And the economy
was so good, especially compared to the other African countries

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that other Africans, Black Africans had been pouring into Rhodesia
for the employment opportunities. We're talking a very very modern, wealthy,
fantastic country in the military, which is going to matter
a lot because they're about to need it. The military
was tiny about twenty thousand and excellent. These are young
men who grew up in the outdoors that automatically helps hunting,

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familiarity with firearms. They almost all of them had fathers
who fought in World War II. Rhodesia was well represented
in World War Two, so much so that the British
government had to tell them please stop enlisting, No, no more,
you stay please. These are hardcore fighting men. There aren't
many of them. There aren't many troops, and this is

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really gonna matter for today. There are not many troops,
There are not many planes. Half their air force was
South Africa. There aren't many helicopters. They don't have very
much stuff and also going to be important for today.
Rhodesia is enormous. You know, when I was a kid,

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my dad used to take me hunting all the time
all over Montana. Now, if you're in a big state
like California or Texas, this won't blow you away. But
if you're not, this dismay. We would get in the
cars sometimes and we would drive four five hours on

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the highway, and we wouldn't come close to being out
of the state yet four or five hour drive at
eighty miles an hour on the highway still not out
of the state. Place is enormous. Montana is enormous. Rhodesia
was actually a little bigger huge. It's a huge place

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now the final recap, because today it matters is our clock,
draw a circle on a piece of paper or in
your mind, the clock matters. Remember, from about nine o'clock
to twelve o'clock you have Zambia, all right. From twelve
o'clock all the way down to six o'clock you have Mozambique,

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gonna be a problem. Now from six o'clock to about
eight o'clock you have South Africa. And South Africa is really,
by this point a huge reason Rhodesia is still thriving.
South Africa is providing, like I said, troops that have
been providing other things. And Mozambique, that country that is

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twelve to six. They are currently run by the Portuguese.
The Portuguese, according to virtually every account I read, their
military was all but useless, completely useless. That the Rhodesians
didn't sound like they had any respect for them at all,
But that wasn't what was important. What was important was
Mozambique is on the water. Remember Rhodesia is landlocked. Mozambaku

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is on the water, and the Portuguese were friendly with Rhodesia.
Thus trade oil, Rhodesia is able to sell in trade.
It's things with South Africa and Mozambique. And remember how
small that fighting force is. That's a lot of border.
Can't you can't properly secure a border all the way

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around three hundred and sixty degrees with twenty thousand troops.
It's just not you don't have enough stuff. But they
didn't have to. Remember, almost all of this communist guerrilla
infiltration was coming from Zambia, that country that's up there
from ten o'clock, nine o'clock to twelve o'clock if just
the northwest. And Zambia has a big river on the border,

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so it was even easier to secure it. Look at
the river, kill the terrorists when they're crossing the river,
and you're good to go. But nineteen seventy four comes
and really this was the moment Rhodesia was lost. It'll
take years that we're about to fight our way through
these years. But what happened in nineteen seventy four really

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screwed them bad. In nineteen seventy four, the Portuguese lose Mozambique,
and Mozambique becomes a hostile terrorist harboring country. That's a problem.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Next, this is a Jesse Kelly Show.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on Monday. Member you
can email us Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Continuing
our history of the Rhodesian Bush War. Previously it had
just been Zambia with these different gorilla groups. And always
remember there are two different gorilla groups, two different Zapu

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and Zanu. One group is backed by the Soviets. The
other group is backed by the Chinese. And remember they
do not like each other because each group essentially comes
from one of the two tribes that had originally been
on Rhodesia, killing each other and slaving each other, slaughtering

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each other. These two different Kami groups do not get along.
But no big deal, it's just Zambia, right, We've got
Zambia covered. Then Mozambique falls in nineteen seventy four, the
Portuguese pull out of it. Apparently they were quite salty
about it as well. They did things like fill up

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the toilets with concrete. It was essentially exactly what it
sounds like. Hey, I guess you don't like civilization. I
guess we'll destroy the civilization we created for you. I'm
sure you'll be able to recreate it, right, see you guys.
And yeah, Mozambique didn't do very well. Mozambique, like I said,
though it essentially is sixty seventy percent of Rhodesia's border.

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Their small force previously could handle a tiny border, essentially
running border patrol. Now what do you do? The terrorists
immediately began setting up big camps in Mozambique, and so
the Rhodesians, and they'd been doing this before. To the

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Rhodesians start figuring out they have to play offense, not
just defense. You see. They had camps set up all
over the country, military camps set up all over Rhodesia
so they could do these quick reaction forces, which we
will get into, but that's just trying to you know,
stop the leaks when you find them coming in. You've

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got to go find these people in their countries and
they begin they will launch obviously unauthorized massive military actions
into Zambia, into Mozambique, trying to blow up these training camps,
trying to blow up the supply lines, trying to do

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whatever they can do to kill the gorillas before they
come into Rhodesia, to deprive them of arms, to do
whatever they have to do. For instance, here's a great
example of it. And we're about to go over some
operations here, which I'll get to in a moment. But
for instance, I mentioned there's a port in Mozambique, and
I also mentioned the Russians, the Chinese. They were involved

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in this, deeply involved because they wanted to control Rhodija
after it fell. So how are these weapons getting there
into Africa? Lots of them are coming by ship. The
Rhodesians identified the port where the weapons were coming in
through Mozambique, the Mozambique Port. It is freaking brilliant. In

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this port, they had a problem. You see the port
it was it was a where the river met the ocean.
And I don't want to get too technical with this
kind of stuff, but essentially, dirt, I'll just call it.
Dirt starts to pile up at the bottom of the
river at the bottom of the port, and the port
isn't deep enough if that happens to allow a huge

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ship to come in. So what they had was a
boat that would dredge the bottom, It would clean out
the dirt. It would clean out the dirt, and this
is something you had to do often. The Rhodesians were
just unbelievably good at these kind of super secret Ninja
special forces type missions. They got scuba divers into the port,

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They nuked the boat that dredged the river. The boat
dead in the water. Now the river cannot be dredged.
The bottom of it raises up so much. The port
is dead. They can't get any more Chinese munitions into
the port. But wait, there's more. They figure out that
they're going to take their guns along this train. You

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know what we will do will wait until the train
is about to cross a massive train bridge. I mean
picture it, you can picture it in your mind, over
a canyon. They wait until the train is basically entering
the bridge, and they nuke the bridge so the train
doesn't have time to stop. The train, yes, it does

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have some civilians on there, but it also has tons
of munitions that we're going to be used to kill Rhodesians.
The train cannot stop. The bridge blows up, oh all
the way down to the bottom of the canyon, and
train goes and then to pour salt in the wounds.
The Rhodesians go down to the bottom of the canyon

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and steal all the guns and munitions. So they have that.
And remember in case you're wondering why, with the fall
of Mozambique, Rhodesia now has one friend. It's South Africa
that friend that's down there. But you know, from six
o'clock to eight o'clock South Africa, remember that the UN

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because of Britain, they have these crippling sanctions on Rhodesia.
Now they're having a hard time economically because Mozambique's gone.
They're having a hard time getting stuff in munitions, things
like that. They can't get stuff. They are landlocked. They
are completely dependent on South Africa. Without them, they have

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nobody in South Africa is helping. Don't get me wrong,
but they can't do that much. So we'll talk about
a couple other operations. One it was a revenge operation,
revenge for what. Well, you know how communists can't control themselves.
They have never been able to control their demonic impulses.

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Probably not a good idea to hand them anti aircraft
missiles where civilian airliners fly.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Hang on, Jesse Kelly, it is the Jesse Kelly Show
on a fantastic, fantastic Monday.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Back to our Rhodesian bush war. So I don't want
to get two in the weeds on the details, but
there is something that kind of matters for our purposes here.
Remember I said that Zambia is that country to the
northwest of Rhodesia. Mozambique is the country that it's essentially
their entire eastern border. The Soviet backed gorilla grew were

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really Zambia right in Mozambique. Those gorilla groups, that gorilla group,
they were backed by the Chinese, and they had two
different types of war. They were trying to fight the Chinese.
It's almost it's almost two on the nose. The Chinese
were more focused on being subversive, being quieter about it,

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less technologically, but more spy spy stuff. Does that make sense.
The Soviets they had tanks that that they wanted their
gorillas to be outfitted with heavy equipment, and one of
the things they gave them was surface to air missiles. Remember,

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the gorilla groups neither of them had air power at all.
A huge advantage the Rhodesians had was they had excellent
helicopter pilots, excellent fighter pilots. That they had air power.
The gorillas did not. It seems like an easy problem
to solve. The Selviets said to their gorillas up in Zambia, Hey,

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how about some weapons that can shoot down a plane?
But communists cannot control themselves. There is a passenger airline.
A passenger airline flies in the wrong place, and the
Kami gorillas shoot it down. Now it doesn't get blown

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up completely in the sky. Yes, of course, the explosion
hurts and kills people. The crash landing hurts and kills people.
But there are several survivors on the ground. Okay, sounds good, right, Well,
some of those survivors manage to crawl away from the wreckage,

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get somewhere where there's essentially some place to hide. Others
are too tired, sick, or injured to do so. The
ones who crawl their way in the bush and find
a place to hide, they were the living witnesses of
what happened next. The Cammie Monster gorilla groups that shot

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down the passenger airliner, drove up to the crashed plane
and promptly executed all of the survivors. The word would
have never gotten out had there not been living survivors.
Word got out, obviously, word got to Rhodesia. In Rhodesia
is furious. Now. Up to this point, they had not

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really done cross border things. Right now they're going in
cross border things like the ship thing and the bridge thing.
They hadn't really done that yet. Now they go in
and it's called Operation Gatling, where they attack three different
gorilla camps in Zambia over the course of three days.

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It's almost a simultaneous attack. Helicopters, planes, troops. Now, to
clarify something about the troops, because it's such a large
country and there were so few troops, the Rhodesian troops
were basically all of them airborne troops in some way.
They were always parachuting into a place or getting out

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of a helicopter. It was the norm. You could hardly drive.
I mean there was driving, don't get me wrong, but
when they launched operations, they were always from the air.
Air operations. So they do a huge cross border attack
into Zambia. Now what do communists do? What do communists
do today? And always when they get attacked, when they

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do something terrible and they get attacked, they play the
victim the communists. After this three day affair, the communists
came out and said, hey, you killed a bunch of
innocent civilians. Rhodesia killed a bunch of innocent civilians. Now,
I know you're probably rolling your eyes and saying that's ridiculous,
and of course it is, except who's the media today, communists?

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Who do you think was running it back in the seventies, communists.
You know that communist governments around the globe, including in
Western civilization, they hated Rhodesia hated it. They were trying
to get the place to stop. What I'm saying is
the media, the governments, they were all too willing to

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believe the communist propaganda that civilians were killed in mass
in the Rhodesians looked terrible. Now, I need to explain
something before we get into other things like torture and
other operations and stuff like that. Fire force really cool name,
I know, but fire force is something the Rhodesians did

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and here's what it was. Because of the size of
the country, has already mentioned because of how many troops
they had. How do you get everywhere when you find
out there's been an infiltration of gorillas, When they find
fifty gorillas, a hundred gerrillas, they set up I'll call
them army camps all over the country, all over the country.
There would be I'll just pick a number. It's going

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to vary, but one hundred troops in one camp. Helicopters
are there, planes are there? Now? I mentioned before the
group known as the Cellas Scouts. It's really Sellou Scouts.
It's a French term, but I'm just going to call
them the Sellus Scouts because that's what most people know
them as. The Sellas Scouts were this elite unit where

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they tracked people. It's what they did. They hunted down
guerrillas and tracked them. Also, kind of a cool little tidbit.
Did you know that more than half of the Sellas
Scouts were Black Africans who were communists before and they
recruited them and turned them and now they fought for
the cell with Scouts. How about that? Really cool? Anyway

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they would do, they did all kinds of things. They
would pose as war lords and things like that. They
would do all kinds of things, but their job essentially
was to go find these gorilla in incursions into the country.
And let's say they're out and they find one get
they find a large group of tracks, they find trash,
they find something, they track it, and they find fifty gorillas,

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fifty gorillas who are having lunch in a riverbedepepep. They
get on the radio. This is what Fireforce was. They
get on the radio and the closest camp of the
Rhodesian military, the closest camp, would mobilize, boom troops. Everybody,
get in the gilos, get in the planes. And the
idea of it was this get to where the gorillas

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are quickly. And more importantly, they were trying to envelop
the gorillas. Why envelop the gorillas, Well, the gorillas had
a strategy they used. Remember it's easy to think about
these guys as unsophisticated. They had all kinds of training
from the Soviets in the Chinese advanced military training. What
the gorillas would do when they were they would disperse.

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Everybody would kind of go in a different direction, and
then they would know, I need to get back across
the border. Once I get back across the border. We'll
reconvene and we'll be fine. The Rhodesians know this is
what they do too, So the idea of fire force
is mobilize the helos, mobilize the planes, mobilize at all,
mobilize the troops so fast that you envelop them so

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they can't get out. You try to trap them and
kill them all, trap them and kill them all. By
the end of the war, which we're not going to
get to yet, but by the end of the war,
the Rhodesian troops were basically worn down to the nubs
because they would go on two, three, four fire force
missions a day. Don't think you would get on the

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helo and go out and kill fifty gorillas and then
it's time for a beer at the local officer club.
No no, no, no, no no. You went right back to base.
Maybe went back to base. Maybe you went right from
one fire force mission to another fire force mission, all
over the country, flying killing, dying all day long, flying killing,
dying all day long. That was fire force, essentially a

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quick reaction force that allowed this admittedly wonderful Rhodesian infantry
or military in general, to quickly get to where the
gorillas are and kill them. And that's a good thing
because the Kamis are now getting in more and more
and more, because that friggin border with Mozambique is now

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open for them. The Rhodesians have to start taking other measures,
if you will. Before we get to the other measures,
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Speaker 1 (27:59):
It a is the Jesse Kelly Show trying to get
through part four of the Rhodesian bush War. I'm not
gonna be able to wrap it up tonight. I will
wrap it up tomorrow. I don't even think it'll take
me an hour. I could look, I could continue to
go on and on and on. I know it's a
fascinating thing. But we'll get back to politics here in
ten minutes. Remember you can email the show Jesse at

(28:22):
Jesse kellyshow dot com. So it really is so impressive
to me as I read through it. How advanced in
the thinking the Rhodesian military and they're essentially their spy agency.
Was I told you they now realized they had to
cross borders and attack the gorillas in their camps in

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other countries before they got into Rhodesia. You had to
do something to kill them in their countries, and so
they come up with something called Operation Dingo. Now it
would have been quite an ugly affair to watch it,
still so impressive. Here was Operation Dingo, here was the

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idea behind it. Two gigantic terrorist bases. That's what they
called them terrorists and essentially that's what they were. And
remember these terrorists are setting land mines on Rhodesian roads,
butchering farmers whenever they find them. They really they used
terror tactics, bombing things. They're just they were terrorists. Operation
Dingo identifies two large gorilla bases. Here's what they start doing.

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They start taking Rhodesian planes jets they're military planes, and
flying overhead of the bases, over over top of the bases.
Why they wanted the terrorists, They wanted them to get
used to the sound of Rhodesian jets flying overhead. You know,
at first, when you first fly overhead, the terrorists think

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they're about to be bombed or something like that said,
they run and they hide nayket into bunkers. But then
you do it enough times, the terrorists start to figure out,
wait a minute, nothing bad's going to happen. I don't
need to pay attention to the Rhodesian jets. Flying overhead.
I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. Operation Dingo was this.

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They loaded up all these troops onto planes with parachutes. Then,
as per usual, they flew some of their jets over
the bases. The gorillas, you know they're gonna look up,
but by now they realize they'll be fine. The Rhodesians
knew when the troops would gather for formation on their base.

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They waited until the troops were at formation. Essentially you're
standing out in the open, and then they start dropping
huge bombs on them, in incinerating them, napalm, you name it.
Apparently there were body parts all over the place of

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these communists tearsts because the Rhodesians caught them in formation.
And as soon as or basically as the planes are
dropping bombs on the Kami terrorists, the Rhodesian troops are
jumping out of planes with their parachutes and parachuting down.

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As the Kami gorillas are firing up at them with
AK forty sevens, putting holes in their parachutes. The Rhodesian
troops land, and this is where I'll get very frank
with you. This war was fought in a way that
may make you squeamish, uncomfortable both sides, and it was

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a war that was barbaric because it had to be.
The Rhodesian troops couldn't afford to take prisoners, aid the wounded. No, no, no,
They walked around killing all of them. And they had
identified the likely escape routes the gorillas would use use

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and they set up a hidden blocking force. So as
the gorillas are fleeing the base, they get mowed down
as they run right into the Rhodesian guns. The Rhodesians
are walking around shooting gorillas in the head as they're
burning to death. It is a horrible, horrible, ugly affair
that was awesome, an incredible military campaign and a huge success.

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But this is where I'll leave you for today, because
tomorrow I set Operation Dingo's one of the coolest operations ever.
It's probably the one we will go into tomorrow, to
be honest with you, But I'll leave you with this
now and forever. What I'm about to say has been
the case. Wars are not just military things. There is

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always a political aspect to every single war. Always. Alexander
the Great, as he's out there conquering the Persian Empire,
is constantly having to deal with politics and political intrigue
back home. Julius sees you name it. There's always a

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political aspect to every war. We like to imagine there
was a time when it was just two armies squaring
off like men, and we didn't have these pesky politicians.
It's never been that way. Rhodesia was always doomed because
the world was against them politically, and by doing the

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military things they had to do to win, they were
actually increasing the public opposition to them. I find Operation
Dingo to be an insanely impressive military campaign. The public
did not now it was in Rhodesia, Don't get me wrong,
they were quite happy about it in Rhodesia, but globally America,

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the UK, it was essentially sold as a mass slaughter
of civilians. They claimed there were all kinds of refugees
in the camp who had been killed and executed. Internationally,
this huge military success didn't land well. And now we're

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at the place in Rhodesia. Now we're in the seventies,
the late seventies. They can't hold back the tide anymore.
Of gorillas. They've even put land mines along the Mozambique border.
All kinds of land mines the Rhodesians have, but it
was such mountainous, rough terrain you couldn't possibly mind all

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of it. They're finding a way to get through. They
are now regularly setting up camps. They are the Rhodesians
are having to take steps I just mentioned politically. That's
why I brought this up. Steps like remember those African
tribal peoples who are still there. The Rhodesians are pulling that.
I'm out of the reservations, the villages they'd put them

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in and said no, you can't stay there anymore. Now
you have to come into the city because they can't
have them being recruited by the communist terrorists who are
coming in. It's a nightmare, a total nightmare. We will
finish the Rhodesian bush war tomorrow. Before we finished that,
I want you to be finished with dog food. I
take that back. Keep your dog's food. I get it,

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that's the food Muffy likes. But please add rough greens
to your dog's food. Dogs do not get vitamins and
minerals and antioxidants and omega oils. They don't get that
stuff from dog food. Fred used to have a digestive
issue every single time he would have a meal. Do
you have any idea what that it's like? It's freaking awful.

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He has not had one since we started him on
rough Greens. His stomach actually works the way it's supposed
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