July 5, 2024 • 34 mins
If Democrats want to replace Biden they have to get thru Kamala first. Founder of Big Data Poll and host of Inside The Numbers, Rich Baris joins Sean to talk about what Biden’s poll numbers mean.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hour two of the Jesse Kelly Radio Show starts now.
My name is Sean Parnell. I'm in the chair today
for the great Jesse Kelly. I'm a combat veteran New
York Times bestselling author. More important than both of those things,
I'm simply humble servant of this country.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Listen, the Democrats are in complete panic mode. We're gonna
talk about that in the second hour. Operation Replace Biden
is in full swing. But what can the Democrats do
about it? I'm gonna go into that in depth. And
about six what is it seven point thirty, We've got
Savage Rich Barris. Savage Rich Barris is a good friend
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of mine. I think he's the best polster in America.
Why because he understands the moment that we're in. He
understands the data, yes, but he also understands the cultural moment.
He's the director of Big Data poll and host of
Inside the Numbers. We're going to talk about Trump silence
as his political enemies self immolate. That and so much
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more ahead an hour two. Thanks for sticking with us,
so Operation Replaced Biden. I gotta tell you the last
couple of days have been pretty great. You know, I've
been telling people take time to enjoy the victories as
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they come. Keep your eye on the ball, right, because
the ultimate goal is to defeat the radical left. You know,
we talk about the radical left. They want to fundamentally
transform this country. Well that's liberal speak for they want
to destroy everything that this country ever was. Because in
order to fundament mentally transforms something, you must first tear
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it down. And so what does that mean. Our founding
documents are constitution individual liberty here that we have in
the greatest country on the face of the planet. Remember,
the Constitution is a contract between people and government, a
contract that limits the size in the scope of the
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federal government to protect our freedom, to protect our liberty.
You know, our rights are bestowed upon us by God,
not government. And that's what makes us unique here in
this country. And so you look at some of these
Supreme Court rulings that have come down over the last week,
Supreme Court laying the smack down on the administrative state
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with the Chevron decision, the fifteen twelve see Obstruction of
an Official Proceeding, which basically guts BD eyed little prosecutor
freak Jack Smith guts his case against Donald Trump. It
also helps hundreds of January six ers who have been
languishing in prison for years, sometimes in solitary confinement, trials
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needlessly delayed. We get political prisoners here in this country.
Shouldn't happen in America. And then, of course the debate.
Biden goes on stage and has a disastrous performance at
the debate, and so the Democrats, needless to say, are
just in chaos right now. And it brings me joy
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to see my political enemies in chaos. And that's exactly
what's happening in the Democrat Party right now. Believe me,
they're in complete meltdown mode. There's talk of trying to
replace Joe Biden on the ballot, and the media narrative
is shifted in kind of a strange way. They watch
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Joe Biden's horrific performance on the stage and then they
immediately start saying Joe Biden has to step aside. And
the reason why they're saying Joe Biden has to step
aside is because that's the only way that the man
can be replaced. And let me tell you a little
bit about how the Democrat primary is structured. You know
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because the great irony of all of this is that
Democrats very likely will now become a victim of their
own election rigging. Yes, we know the Democrats rig elections
and cheating elections. They've been cheating in elections, in rigging
elections since eighteen sixty four when they tried to carry
ballots of dead Union soldiers across New York state line
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to try to beat Abraham Lincoln that year. They didn't
do it, they weren't successful, But they have a long
history of doing this. But the Democrats in this instance
might become victims of their own election rigging. And let
me tell you why. If you're a candidate in a
Democrat primary and you get over fifteen percent of the
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vote in that presidential primary in a state, then the
delegates that that you win in the fifteen percent, they
are bound to you. And in the first round of
voting at the Democrat Convention, they are mandated by law,
law written by the Democrats, the Democrats, the DNC, they
are mandated to vote for that candidate in the first
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round of voting.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, here's the rub.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They rigged the primary in favor of Joe Biden, and
Joe Biden has almost all the delegates, and those delegates
are mandated to vote for him. And oh, by the way, yes,
Joe Biden might be an animated corpse. He's not there,
but he's also the president of the United States. He
wields enormous power. And oh, by the way, Joe Biden,
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if people have been talking about the DNC, well, the
DNC is going to replace him. Joe Biden appointed the
chair of the DNC. Joe Biden appointed the co chair
of the DNC. The Democrat National Committee is chalk full
of Biden loyalists. Biden on a staff call just two
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days ago, and this is a direct quote. Let me
say this as clearly as I possibly can, as simply
and straightforward as I can. I am running. No one
is pushing me out. I'm not leaving. I'm in this
race to the end, and we're going to win. Biden
just today, listen, Oh guess what they're trying to push.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Me out on the race. Well, let me say this
as clear as I can. I'm staying in a race.
I'll beat Donald Trump. I will beat him again at
twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Biden says he's staying in the race. Now, listen, the
Democrats have an extraordinary level of control over their super
delegates in their primary. And I get all that they
are a bunch of dirty fascists and comedies who don't
care about their voters.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
That much is true, so they control a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Anything could happen, But the only real path forward for
the Democrats is maybe Kamala Harris. I mean, think about
how difficult. Even if you change the Democrat primary rules,
there are still Federal Election Commission rules that prohibit packs
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from being set up that no other presidential candidate has
a pack that's set up. There are signatures that are
required to get on the ballot in certain states. Heck,
there's ballot access issues. Newsweeks as this headline, Democrats might
not be able to replace Joe Biden on the ballot
in these states. According to the Heritage Foundation's research, Georgia, Wisconsin,
and Nevada may prove particularly difficult for Democrats. It's said
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that only death can remove a candidate's name from Wisconsin ballot,
while Nevada is deadline for changing candidates ended at five
pm on the fourth of June. So, folks, what about
how about this? What about TV advertising? The Biden campaign
has already reserved millions of dollars in TV advertising. They
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book those ads far in advance because they're far cheaper
to do it that way. If they replace Biden, even
if they replace Biden with Harris, they have to rereserve
those ads, which the price goes up astronomically the closer
we get to election day. What about campaign infrastructure? What
about staff? What about websites? There's no bank account. I mean,
many of the brick and mortar staff buildings that Democrats
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have in swing states and in states all across the country,
those aren't transferable. I mean, there's a million little details
that I think people aren't considering here and there. I
think that the Democrats are legitimately stuck with Biden. And
then we talk about the other candidates. You're talking about
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people who they want to replace Biden with, Gavin Newsom.
I'm sure you heard that from California, Gretchen Whitmer, Governor
of Michigan, Josh Shapiro. Do you think any of those
people want to step in at the last minute and
go up against Trump, who is the most electrifying political
figure in my lifetime, To be sure already down, Isn't
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it just so much easier for those candidates to say, hey,
throw their hands up and say, hey, look, twenty twenty
eight is a lot better bet. They can all roll
into Washington, DC like they're comedists from the movie Gladiator,
like a conquering hero, say I'm gonna save the Democrat
Party from Donald Trump and the evil Republicans who've been
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running this nation for for Donald Trump is termed out.
Miss So much easier of a political position, is it not.
And then they've got the Kamala problem. We're gonna talk
about that when we come back. Do not miss this
when we talk about the Kamala problem. Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
We'll be right back. Stay with us.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Radio Show. My name
Sean par in the chair for Jesse Kelly, and listen.
I know that my friend Jesse has had a theory
out there for six months. He's been out front on
this issue that they're going to replace Joe Biden. And
in fact, there are lots of conservatives that think that
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Joe Biden's got to go. And why would you think
any differently when you look at the media is completely
turned on the guy. I'm simply presenting you all the
rest of America. I am a conservative voice that thinks
it's going to be a lot more difficult for them
to replace Joe Biden than people think. You've got the
issue of political candidates that would potentially replace him in Newsom, Whitmer,
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Shapiro who might definitely don't want to jump into the
race at the last minute and be a sacrificial lamb
that will hurt them in twenty twenty eight. Those people
don't want to run against Donald Trump again. Donald Trump
is a force to be reckoned with and brings out
a crazy cross section of voters the likes of which
I have not seen. And I know because I've been
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on the ballot with him, Like I know what this
man can do. And believe me, these people want nothing
to do running against Donald Trump. It's far easier for
them to arrive on the scene in twenty twenty eight
and not have to take the risk of losing. And
that brings me to the Kamala problem. Can't pass over
Kamala so here again. Just like the Democrats might be
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victims of their own election rigging, so too will they
become a victim of their own DEI insanity. And then,
of course I'm talking about our DEI vice president and
Kamala Harris. And here's the thirty thousand foot of Kamala Harris.
I have it on very good authority that most people
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inside the Democrat Party revile Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
They don't like her.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The general electorate hates her. If you look at the polling,
and I'm not just talking about one poll, I don't
trust one pole. I look go to plurality of poll.
I look at trends. She is somehow, some way less
likable than Joe Biden's and even she's even less articulate
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than Joe Biden. It's absolutely unbelievable. And they can't pass
her over because once she's on the ticket, she's the
only one that can legally inherit Joe Biden's war chest,
and she's black and so again ironic now that Democrats
are victims of their own self inflicted wounds and Joe Biden.
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That brings me to Jill. Jill becomes a very easy
scapegoat if she forces Biden to stay in the race
and Biden loses, well, she becomes the Yoko Ono of
the Democrat Party, And that brings me to the vote.
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Millions of Democrats voted for Joe Biden to be the nominee.
There's no good way to upend that system, ignore the
rules and laws, all to the detriment of their voters.
And look, we know again the Democrats rigged the primary
in sixteen against Bernie Sanders. They rigged it again in
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twenty twenty against Bernie Sanders. But millions of Democrats have
already voted. And to replace Biden at the convention to
some sort of broker convention will fracture their Democrat base
even more. And then this brings me to the people
behind the curtain and the Biden administration. They love three
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years with an animated corpse that is Joe Biden as president.
Think about this, the people who are pulling the strings.
They are able to do insanely radical things to this
country and get away with it, things that they otherwise
would not be able to do with their name attached.
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So you wonder why this country has fallen off a
cliff so fast in just three short ears. I asked
my father about this, who lived through JFK's assassination, and
RFK and Martin Luther King, I said, it has America
ever been this bad? He said, well, what was pretty
rough in the sixties is a pretty tumultuous time. But
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I've never lived through a time where America has gone
downhill so fast as they have under Joe Biden. But
this is why you have people who are unaccountable behind
the scenes, pulling the strings for Joe Biden, not accountable
for any of the radical stuff they're doing. And my
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question to you, America is this, do you have any
idea who these people might be?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I do listen, no, Now do you wish like you
had a second a third term? And I used to say,
you know what, if I could make an arrangement where
I had a stand in a frontman or a front woman,
and they had an ear piece in and I was
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just in my basement in my sweats looking through the stuff,
and then I could sort of deliver the lines, but
somebody else was doing all the talking and ceremony. I'd
be fine with that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That's basically exactly what's happening Barack Obama. It's no coincidence
that Barack Obama bought a mansion in DC within walking
distance of the White House Biden's staffers walk from the
White House to meet with Obama and his staff. Obama
staffers walk from Biden's house to the White House every day.
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Yet the media doesn't talk about.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
This at all.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Oh, believe me, they could tell you where their Kardashians
are at any given moment of the day. But this
they're all like Sandra Bullock and bird Box. They don't know. Oh,
President Obama's living right down the road. Oh, he's just
there for his daughter going to college. But I want
you to think about this, This arrangement no accountability is
perfect for all these people, people like Barack Obama, all
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these Obama accolytes. Biden's a meat puppet, one foot in
the grave. He doesn't know whether he's coming or going.
He's basically fit to be an extra on the set
of Walking Dead. Hell, you could put him in a
city filled with zombies and he wouldn't even be attacked
because they would think he was one of them. My
point is this, it's fair to say that Biden's a
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week president who's easily manipulated, Right, I think that's fair.
Obama's the one that's doing the manipulating. But here's the
rub Biden has to win, and pem Obama and all
the power brokers in the Democrat Party they're not sure
that he can. So that's why you've seen this narrative
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shift to try to push him out at the last,
very very late in the game. But I don't think
they're going to be able to do it. So up next,
I've got my very good friend, Rich Barris, director of
Big Data poll and host of Inside the Numbers. He's
going to give his take on whether or not the
Democrats can remove Joe Biden. And we're going to talk
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about all the latest polls, that and so much more
on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
We'll be right back the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
We are back here on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
My name is Sean Parnell in the chair for Jesse Kelly,
and it is great to be here, folks. We have
been talking about Operation Replace Joe Biden. Should he stay
or should he go? Or is it even possible in
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the first place. Well, I've got my very very good
friend here. His name is Rich Barris. My nickname for
him is Savage Rich Barris, because yes, he's a polster.
Yes I believe he's probably the best in the entire
country at what he does. But he can also be very,
very savage from time to time. He's the best in
the business. I want to get his opinion on all
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of this because he's got his finger on the pulse
of America. So, without further Ado Savage Rich Barris, Welcome
to the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
My friend, Hey buddy, how was your Independence Day? Thanks
for having me living in dream buddy.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It was really really good.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You know, if you would have asked me, if you
would have asked me last year that I if I
was going to be selling it, celebrating Independence Day with
five children, four goats, ten chickens, a rooster, like, that's
what my Independence Day was.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Here.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
We are.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Friends over, neighbors over we always do a pretty decent
firework show. We put it that's kind of together, last
minute barbecue and had a go old American you know,
your traditional American Independence Day. It was nice. I really
enjoyed myself. It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well all right, so I'm we have talked about this
on my show many times, and I have been going
against the grain many conservatives out there saying that, you know,
Joe Biden's going to be replaced. Many conservatives has been
saying this. A lot of people have been saying it
for a long time. It's going to be replaced six
months ago. I don't think it's possible. What's your take
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on all of this?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It would be and.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm with you on that. This look, we've seen a
lot of historic firsts. But the fact of the matter
is a lot of the commentary out there is being
leveled by people who really don't know what they're talking about.
They don't understand not only party rules, but state law,
which is totally different. And those say nothing of the
optics of what it would be to replace Joe Biden
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in somebody tens one hundred million people voted for to
be their nominee. So you just can't do that, Sewan,
Tens and tens of millions of people spoke, and it
would cause such a friction, it's such a not even
friction fracture within the party. Now to that, a lot
of people say, well, that's why they're replace him with
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Kamala Harris. But voters aren't voting, even Democratic primary voters,
they're not voting for Kamala Harris. They voted for Joe Biden.
And you know, like I said on your show last week,
I hate to say this, but it doesn't seem like
people know enough about this, and I have to spell
it out for them. It's not simply about the candidate
dropping out. There are many of these exceptions only have
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to do with whether the candidate is no longer with us.
Let me put it that way. So it's it's just
like a herculean task, and I don't see it happening,
you know. Voting.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, I mean, look, I mentioned there are there are
ballot access rules in place and in swing states where
Joe Biden simply can't get on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's too late.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And so Sean they own they almost didn't get on
the ballot in Ohio already. I mean, this is like
and that's because of the dysfunction, that's not because of
you know, them trying to replace him. If they tried
to replace him, he's not They're not getting on the
ballot in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So Rich, the only viable option for the Democrats is
you gonna talk Hey, Newsom doesn't He's not gonna want
to run against Trump. Shapiro's not gonna want run against Trump.
Witmer's not gonna run against Trump.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
The Shurrs.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Heck not gonna want the chaos that comes from passing
over Kamala Harris's VP. There'll be a lot of drama there.
So it's gotta be the only one. It's got to
be Kamala. She's the only one that can even legally
inherit Biden's war chest. But to me, this is just
me speaking. The electorate does not like Kamala Harris, and
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somehow she pulls less favorable than Joe Biden. Am I
wrong about this?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
No, you're not wrong. The Harvard Harris bolt just came
out and Trump was beating Biden by six, but he's
beating Harris by ten. And these are the numbers we've
seen before. We've pulled everyone, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Bernie Sanders,
Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama. I mean, we've thrown it all
on the table, and Biden is still the strongest candidate.
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And I know that makes Republicans like Scott like, how
could that be? But it is And I would tell
them to think of it like this. Monroe County, Michigan,
Macomb County, Michigan, Scranton, Pennsylvania, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. You know,
Pike County, Pennsylvania, Northampton, Pennsylvania, Erie, Pennsylvania. Do you think
these areas are gonna vote for Kamala Harris? Absolutely not,
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absolutely not. Joe Biden is his appeal for better or worse.
Whether you can see it or not, or we can
see it or not, that is just it's indisputable. I mean,
they call him Scranton Joe. We always tried to have
that persona she is a coastal lefty from California with
a checkered background, to say the least. I mean, this
is not going to fly in Middle America. It's just not.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We're talking to Rich Barris, director of Big Data poll
and host of Inside the Numbers. I think, just so
everyone's tracking out there, I think he's the best polster
in the business. And I've said many times in the show,
I don't trust one poll. We look at pluralities and
we look at trends, and nobody does it better than
Rich and so Rich. The Democrats, I've said on the
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segment prior, that seems to me they're becoming a victim
of their own election rigging. That Biden has all the
delegates Biden stacked the DNC Kamala Harris is the only
viable option. So let me ask you this, We've got
about four minutes left. Where did the Democrats go from here?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
They made their beds. Now they have to lie in it, Sean.
It it really is that simple. They kept Kennedy off
the ballot in multiple states, in New Hampshire where Dean
Phillips maybe maybe could have put on because that is
the state for people who don't know out there, that
is the state that's going to tell you whether you're
an incumbent and you have a base problem or you
have an issue. And surprisingly that he didn't do, you know,
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extremely fantastic there. Obama, Reagan, Clinton, and Trump got a
lot more of the vote share than they as an
incumbent sitting incumbent president than Biden did. Biden's kind of
down on the potem pole historically. But in order to
make sure that that was that was not going to
be a problem, they stripped the delegates out in New Hampshire, right, so, uh,
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you know, made sure that the front loaded states that
Joe Biden could do better in. This is a demon
of their own design, and really that's the only way
we can put it. And now they just have to
they have to deal with this, you know, see what
they can do with their get out the vote because again,
I mean, we just give people four or five reasons,
four or five challenges why it's not as simple as oh,
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we're just going to pluck Joe Biden out because it's
a bad candidate. We're not going to run him. That's
not how it works. And that gets in and what
you touched on it, it's nothing into the war chest.
Uh problem that they will have, which is, yeah, Kamala
can take that war chest. But this is what do
they do in this situation. They run it. They run
with it, and Republicans should want to because if you're
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a Republican out there and you feel like you got
gypped this, you don't want Joe Biden to leave. You
need Donald Trump to beat Joe Biden so you could
show the system that you got justice for what they
did in twenty twenty. Do you know if it was
Kamala Harris, they're going to skate on that forever. Sean,
They're going to be able to skate across it forever.
If Joe Biden goes down to Donald Trump in twenty
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four it will be a sign that the jig is up.
They know what you did. You tried to rig it
get backfired on you, and you were rejected and America
basically corrected the issue.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. I mean we're
talking with Rich Barris. I mean, Rich, we don't have
that much long left here in this segment. But can
you stick around for another segment?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Absolutely? Brother, Absolutely all.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right, stick around Rich. Listen, folks America. I am with you.
I'm with Rich here. I don't want Biden out of
this race. I want him to lose, and I want
him to lose to Trump. I want his last political
act to be going down in flames with a legitimate
loss to Donald Trump. And so we're going to talk
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about that and polling and so much more when we
come back on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Stick right there. The Jesse Kelly Show I Like It
returns next.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
We are back here on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
My name is Sean Parnell. I'm in for my good
friend Jesse Kelly. Thanks for staying with us. We've been
talking with Savage Rich Barris, director of Big Data poll
about operation replace Biden. Can the Democrats do it? I
don't think that they can. If they do, I think
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their only option is Kamala Harris and so Rich. Thank you,
first of all for sticking around for two segments. I
love talking to you, my friend. Looking at the new
Wall Street Journal poll that find that eighty percent of
Americans believe that Biden is too old to run for
president again, and let me just set this next question up.
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I know that you believe, and I don't want to
put words in your mouth, but you believed that the
Trump debate was likely a mistake. He didn't want him
to take the risk he was winning. So Trump comes out,
he just had Biden has this disastrous debate, and Trump
is clearly the front runner. Now there's chaos in the
Democrat ranks. And what you and I spoke about on
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the show this week was Trump has been unbelievably disciplined
as his political opponent self immolate, which is rule number
one on a campaign. If your opponent is in self
destruct mode, you just stay quiet. Well, Trump came out
yesterday and said he wants another debate, but with no moderators,
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and he wants it to be no holds barred. And
my thought, Rich was please God know you.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Are already winning.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Like all you have to do, mister President, is tweet
out a gift of an American flag that says God
bless America, or just talk about your agenda. You don't
even need to address Joe Biden at all, Rich, what
do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Overconfident? Overconfident a huge mistake. Listen the first time. The
only reason I was wrong the first time. It's like,
not my fault. The nuketropics don't work on the guy anymore.
You know, I thought he would come out at least
animated like he did during this Native Union. But it
was just a complete catastrophe. But this was the moment
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is lost already. And what I mean by that is
the debates are not set up in this country. And
it's said the president. You have the debate on presidential commissions.
They're a bunch of fanatics. They're supposed to be bipartisan.
It's a joke. Everybody is anti Trump, whether they're like
never trumpers on that commission or just straight Democrats who
camps stan him, or Republicans. And then the other part
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that's supposed to be Republican is like the one that's
kind of groveling to be in the cool kids club
and to be let like to like, can I just
sleep at your feet at the table so when the
trumbs fall off, I can eat him. You know, this
needs to be reformed badly. And what Trump's talking about
is not even like I feel like the moment's already
lost and Biden needed that debate. He's not going to
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be so eager to do it again, so he's gonna
want rules that benefit him. Donald Trump, if you was
going to debate Joe Biden, he should have used it
as an opportunity to reform the debate process in a
way that doesn't work for corporate media and work for
the advertisers like Big Pharma and the rest of them,
but in a way that really does serve and work
for the American people so they can hear, you know,
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the difference between their leaders and there should be other people.
People were praising Jake Capper. I'm not going to praise him.
I mean, it was very clear he's trying to save
Joe Biden. Multiple times he said, you know, mister President,
you have more time, Like that's not the job of
the moderator. To tell the president he didn't fill in
the gaps of time, he forfeits the time. If this
time is done, Sean, if his answer is done, the
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time is forfeited, and you move on. So and then,
by the way, after what twenty five to thirty minutes,
he pivoted to nonsense like J six and stuff that
was clearly intended to help Joe Biden. Abortion and the
rest of it. The public doesn't care really about that.
Like I'm in our poll right now, abortion is a
distant number four. Overwhelmingly, inflation and the cost of living
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in this country are the issues that Americans wanted to
hear about. Beyond that, it's immigration and border security, and
then beyond that it's general economics and jobs. And this
is not what they spent their time talking about. So,
you know, I think Trump's being overconfident here, and you
never know what Joe Biden is going to show up.
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If you're going to do it, at least serve a purpose,
you know, I mean, at this point, there's nothing else
he needs to do. Sean. Also, in that Wall Street
Journal poll, he was ahead by six points, So why
would you give why would you do anything to risk
that lead?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, look, I as much as I would like to
see Donald Trump give Joe Biden the people's elbow, I
also don't want anything to do. I don't want the guy.
I want the guy in the White House Rich, and
all he has to do is focus on his agenda.
Focus on the American people. Talk about Agenda forty seven,
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talk about the economy, talk about how you're going to
fix inflation, talk about how you're going to seal the
southern border. I mean, get out there and just completely
ignore the animated corpse. He's barely there anyway. So this
brings me to this. We we talked to a little bit
about polling and what you're seeing in this post debate poll,
and I want to talk about an enigmatic group of
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voters that always seems that at least the Republican establishment
is obsessed with. We've got about four minutes left and
we're talking with Savage Rich Barris, director of Big Data
poll Rich. You hear a lot about Republicans and what
are we going to do to win back suburban women,
what are we going to do and do we need
to uh?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
The truth is, when with Trump at the ballot and
with MAGA as the agenda you really don't need to
focus on what is essentially thirteen percent of the electorate.
We just obsess over it. It's unbelievable. Just to give
people some quick numbers, fifty two percent of the electorate
is typically women. Of those not all of them have
a college degree. And guess what, all of them live
in suburban America. Suburbs are only sewn about fifty percent
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of the vote in total, not talking about and I
don't mean only, I mean that's half, but they're about
fifty percent of the vote in by area. And then
of that about half as women of that lest then
have the college degree. I mean, So we're obsessing about
what is essentially thirteen fourteen percent of the electorate while
we're forgetting that there is a for the first time
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in my lifetime, a huge wealth of untapped voting potential.
You know, these are people that will come out for
Donald Trump, don't participate in the process all that much
to have Republicans have an enormous opportunity to get these
people to come out show and it's the difference between
a nail biter and then just going home at like
eleven thirty, like it's over. We're ending the stream. Now
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it's over, we can go home. We know that everyone
can turn their turn off the lights and you know
there's a new president elect. And that's how many of
these voters there are. You know, try to give people
an idea, Like in Michigan alone, folks, you're talking about
a solid you know, seven hundred thousand to one point
three that on paper looked like they would be Republican
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or Trumpelican if you could get them to the voting booth.
They should stop obsessing over the women that many of
which they cannot win back anyway. Then going change the
electorate the way Democrats did. Democrats at some point said
we're tired of trying to win over a certain group.
We're just going to change the electorate. And that's what
they did. Well. Now Republicans have the opportunity to do that.
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Their best bet and the smartest bet, and the long
term stability and viability of their party is to go
after those voters, change the electorate, appeal to the younger
generation that MAGA is now appealing to, and move on
and build yourself, you know, a party that's going to
be viable in the future.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Rich you got about thirty seconds tell America. How they
can best support you.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, the best thing they could do is always shown
is to go to locals People's pundent dot locals dot com.
They could always just go to Big Data Pool as well.
Everything we do is through the Public Polling Project. It's crowdsource,
not funded by you know, corporations or anything. They can
go check it out there. They'll find that on locals
as well, People's Pundit right, locals dot com.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
All right, my friend Savage Rich Paris, Ladies and gentlemen,
thank you up. Next History of the Deep State, third
hour of the Jesse Kelly Radio Show, Stick with Us
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hour two of the Jesse Kelly Radio Show starts now.
My name is Sean Parnell. I'm in the chair today
for the great Jesse Kelly. I'm a combat veteran New
York Times bestselling author. More important than both of those things,
I'm simply humble servant of this country.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Listen, the Democrats are in complete panic mode. We're gonna
talk about that in the second hour. Operation Replace Biden
is in full swing. But what can the Democrats do
about it? I'm gonna go into that in depth. And
about six what is it seven point thirty, We've got
Savage Rich Barris. Savage Rich Barris is a good friend
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of mine. I think he's the best polster in America.
Why because he understands the moment that we're in. He
understands the data, yes, but he also understands the cultural moment.
He's the director of Big Data poll and host of
Inside the Numbers. We're going to talk about Trump silence
as his political enemies self immolate. That and so much
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more ahead an hour two. Thanks for sticking with us,
so Operation Replaced Biden. I gotta tell you the last
couple of days have been pretty great. You know, I've
been telling people take time to enjoy the victories as
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they come. Keep your eye on the ball, right, because
the ultimate goal is to defeat the radical left. You know,
we talk about the radical left. They want to fundamentally
transform this country. Well that's liberal speak for they want
to destroy everything that this country ever was. Because in
order to fundament mentally transforms something, you must first tear
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it down. And so what does that mean. Our founding
documents are constitution individual liberty here that we have in
the greatest country on the face of the planet. Remember,
the Constitution is a contract between people and government, a
contract that limits the size in the scope of the
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federal government to protect our freedom, to protect our liberty.
You know, our rights are bestowed upon us by God,
not government. And that's what makes us unique here in
this country. And so you look at some of these
Supreme Court rulings that have come down over the last week,
Supreme Court laying the smack down on the administrative state
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with the Chevron decision, the fifteen twelve see Obstruction of
an Official Proceeding, which basically guts BD eyed little prosecutor
freak Jack Smith guts his case against Donald Trump. It
also helps hundreds of January six ers who have been
languishing in prison for years, sometimes in solitary confinement, trials
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needlessly delayed. We get political prisoners here in this country.
Shouldn't happen in America. And then, of course the debate.
Biden goes on stage and has a disastrous performance at
the debate, and so the Democrats, needless to say, are
just in chaos right now. And it brings me joy
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to see my political enemies in chaos. And that's exactly
what's happening in the Democrat Party right now. Believe me,
they're in complete meltdown mode. There's talk of trying to
replace Joe Biden on the ballot, and the media narrative
is shifted in kind of a strange way. They watch
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Joe Biden's horrific performance on the stage and then they
immediately start saying Joe Biden has to step aside. And
the reason why they're saying Joe Biden has to step
aside is because that's the only way that the man
can be replaced. And let me tell you a little
bit about how the Democrat primary is structured. You know
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because the great irony of all of this is that
Democrats very likely will now become a victim of their
own election rigging. Yes, we know the Democrats rig elections
and cheating elections. They've been cheating in elections, in rigging
elections since eighteen sixty four when they tried to carry
ballots of dead Union soldiers across New York state line
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to try to beat Abraham Lincoln that year. They didn't
do it, they weren't successful, But they have a long
history of doing this. But the Democrats in this instance
might become victims of their own election rigging. And let
me tell you why. If you're a candidate in a
Democrat primary and you get over fifteen percent of the
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vote in that presidential primary in a state, then the
delegates that that you win in the fifteen percent, they
are bound to you. And in the first round of
voting at the Democrat Convention, they are mandated by law,
law written by the Democrats, the Democrats, the DNC, they
are mandated to vote for that candidate in the first
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round of voting.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, here's the rub.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They rigged the primary in favor of Joe Biden, and
Joe Biden has almost all the delegates, and those delegates
are mandated to vote for him. And oh, by the way, yes,
Joe Biden might be an animated corpse. He's not there,
but he's also the president of the United States. He
wields enormous power. And oh, by the way, Joe Biden,
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if people have been talking about the DNC, well, the
DNC is going to replace him. Joe Biden appointed the
chair of the DNC. Joe Biden appointed the co chair
of the DNC. The Democrat National Committee is chalk full
of Biden loyalists. Biden on a staff call just two
(06:01):
days ago, and this is a direct quote. Let me
say this as clearly as I possibly can, as simply
and straightforward as I can. I am running. No one
is pushing me out. I'm not leaving. I'm in this
race to the end, and we're going to win. Biden
just today, listen, Oh guess what they're trying to push.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Me out on the race. Well, let me say this
as clear as I can. I'm staying in a race.
I'll beat Donald Trump. I will beat him again at
twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Biden says he's staying in the race. Now, listen, the
Democrats have an extraordinary level of control over their super
delegates in their primary. And I get all that they
are a bunch of dirty fascists and comedies who don't
care about their voters.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
That much is true, so they control a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Anything could happen, But the only real path forward for
the Democrats is maybe Kamala Harris. I mean, think about
how difficult. Even if you change the Democrat primary rules,
there are still Federal Election Commission rules that prohibit packs
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from being set up that no other presidential candidate has
a pack that's set up. There are signatures that are
required to get on the ballot in certain states. Heck,
there's ballot access issues. Newsweeks as this headline, Democrats might
not be able to replace Joe Biden on the ballot
in these states. According to the Heritage Foundation's research, Georgia, Wisconsin,
and Nevada may prove particularly difficult for Democrats. It's said
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that only death can remove a candidate's name from Wisconsin ballot,
while Nevada is deadline for changing candidates ended at five
pm on the fourth of June. So, folks, what about
how about this? What about TV advertising? The Biden campaign
has already reserved millions of dollars in TV advertising. They
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book those ads far in advance because they're far cheaper
to do it that way. If they replace Biden, even
if they replace Biden with Harris, they have to rereserve
those ads, which the price goes up astronomically the closer
we get to election day. What about campaign infrastructure? What
about staff? What about websites? There's no bank account. I mean,
many of the brick and mortar staff buildings that Democrats
(08:27):
have in swing states and in states all across the country,
those aren't transferable. I mean, there's a million little details
that I think people aren't considering here and there. I
think that the Democrats are legitimately stuck with Biden. And
then we talk about the other candidates. You're talking about
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people who they want to replace Biden with, Gavin Newsom.
I'm sure you heard that from California, Gretchen Whitmer, Governor
of Michigan, Josh Shapiro. Do you think any of those
people want to step in at the last minute and
go up against Trump, who is the most electrifying political
figure in my lifetime, To be sure already down, Isn't
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it just so much easier for those candidates to say, hey,
throw their hands up and say, hey, look, twenty twenty
eight is a lot better bet. They can all roll
into Washington, DC like they're comedists from the movie Gladiator,
like a conquering hero, say I'm gonna save the Democrat
Party from Donald Trump and the evil Republicans who've been
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running this nation for for Donald Trump is termed out.
Miss So much easier of a political position, is it not.
And then they've got the Kamala problem. We're gonna talk
about that when we come back. Do not miss this
when we talk about the Kamala problem. Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
We'll be right back. Stay with us.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Radio Show. My name
Sean par in the chair for Jesse Kelly, and listen.
I know that my friend Jesse has had a theory
out there for six months. He's been out front on
this issue that they're going to replace Joe Biden. And
in fact, there are lots of conservatives that think that
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Joe Biden's got to go. And why would you think
any differently when you look at the media is completely
turned on the guy. I'm simply presenting you all the
rest of America. I am a conservative voice that thinks
it's going to be a lot more difficult for them
to replace Joe Biden than people think. You've got the
issue of political candidates that would potentially replace him in Newsom, Whitmer,
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Shapiro who might definitely don't want to jump into the
race at the last minute and be a sacrificial lamb
that will hurt them in twenty twenty eight. Those people
don't want to run against Donald Trump again. Donald Trump
is a force to be reckoned with and brings out
a crazy cross section of voters the likes of which
I have not seen. And I know because I've been
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on the ballot with him, Like I know what this
man can do. And believe me, these people want nothing
to do running against Donald Trump. It's far easier for
them to arrive on the scene in twenty twenty eight
and not have to take the risk of losing. And
that brings me to the Kamala problem. Can't pass over
Kamala so here again. Just like the Democrats might be
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victims of their own election rigging, so too will they
become a victim of their own DEI insanity. And then,
of course I'm talking about our DEI vice president and
Kamala Harris. And here's the thirty thousand foot of Kamala Harris.
I have it on very good authority that most people
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inside the Democrat Party revile Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
They don't like her.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The general electorate hates her. If you look at the polling,
and I'm not just talking about one poll, I don't
trust one pole. I look go to plurality of poll.
I look at trends. She is somehow, some way less
likable than Joe Biden's and even she's even less articulate
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than Joe Biden. It's absolutely unbelievable. And they can't pass
her over because once she's on the ticket, she's the
only one that can legally inherit Joe Biden's war chest,
and she's black and so again ironic now that Democrats
are victims of their own self inflicted wounds and Joe Biden.
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That brings me to Jill. Jill becomes a very easy
scapegoat if she forces Biden to stay in the race
and Biden loses, well, she becomes the Yoko Ono of
the Democrat Party, And that brings me to the vote.
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Millions of Democrats voted for Joe Biden to be the nominee.
There's no good way to upend that system, ignore the
rules and laws, all to the detriment of their voters.
And look, we know again the Democrats rigged the primary
in sixteen against Bernie Sanders. They rigged it again in
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twenty twenty against Bernie Sanders. But millions of Democrats have
already voted. And to replace Biden at the convention to
some sort of broker convention will fracture their Democrat base
even more. And then this brings me to the people
behind the curtain and the Biden administration. They love three
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years with an animated corpse that is Joe Biden as president.
Think about this, the people who are pulling the strings.
They are able to do insanely radical things to this
country and get away with it, things that they otherwise
would not be able to do with their name attached.
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So you wonder why this country has fallen off a
cliff so fast in just three short ears. I asked
my father about this, who lived through JFK's assassination, and
RFK and Martin Luther King, I said, it has America
ever been this bad? He said, well, what was pretty
rough in the sixties is a pretty tumultuous time. But
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I've never lived through a time where America has gone
downhill so fast as they have under Joe Biden. But
this is why you have people who are unaccountable behind
the scenes, pulling the strings for Joe Biden, not accountable
for any of the radical stuff they're doing. And my
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question to you, America is this, do you have any
idea who these people might be?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I do listen, no, Now do you wish like you
had a second a third term? And I used to say,
you know what, if I could make an arrangement where
I had a stand in a frontman or a front woman,
and they had an ear piece in and I was
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just in my basement in my sweats looking through the stuff,
and then I could sort of deliver the lines, but
somebody else was doing all the talking and ceremony. I'd
be fine with that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That's basically exactly what's happening Barack Obama. It's no coincidence
that Barack Obama bought a mansion in DC within walking
distance of the White House Biden's staffers walk from the
White House to meet with Obama and his staff. Obama
staffers walk from Biden's house to the White House every day.
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Yet the media doesn't talk about.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
This at all.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Oh, believe me, they could tell you where their Kardashians
are at any given moment of the day. But this
they're all like Sandra Bullock and bird Box. They don't know. Oh,
President Obama's living right down the road. Oh, he's just
there for his daughter going to college. But I want
you to think about this, This arrangement no accountability is
perfect for all these people, people like Barack Obama, all
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these Obama accolytes. Biden's a meat puppet, one foot in
the grave. He doesn't know whether he's coming or going.
He's basically fit to be an extra on the set
of Walking Dead. Hell, you could put him in a
city filled with zombies and he wouldn't even be attacked
because they would think he was one of them. My
point is this, it's fair to say that Biden's a
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week president who's easily manipulated, Right, I think that's fair.
Obama's the one that's doing the manipulating. But here's the
rub Biden has to win, and pem Obama and all
the power brokers in the Democrat Party they're not sure
that he can. So that's why you've seen this narrative
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shift to try to push him out at the last,
very very late in the game. But I don't think
they're going to be able to do it. So up next,
I've got my very good friend, Rich Barris, director of
Big Data poll and host of Inside the Numbers. He's
going to give his take on whether or not the
Democrats can remove Joe Biden. And we're going to talk
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about all the latest polls, that and so much more
on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
We'll be right back the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
We are back here on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
My name is Sean Parnell in the chair for Jesse Kelly,
and it is great to be here, folks. We have
been talking about Operation Replace Joe Biden. Should he stay
or should he go? Or is it even possible in
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the first place. Well, I've got my very very good
friend here. His name is Rich Barris. My nickname for
him is Savage Rich Barris, because yes, he's a polster.
Yes I believe he's probably the best in the entire
country at what he does. But he can also be very,
very savage from time to time. He's the best in
the business. I want to get his opinion on all
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of this because he's got his finger on the pulse
of America. So, without further Ado Savage Rich Barris, Welcome
to the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
My friend, Hey buddy, how was your Independence Day? Thanks
for having me living in dream buddy.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It was really really good.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You know, if you would have asked me, if you
would have asked me last year that I if I
was going to be selling it, celebrating Independence Day with
five children, four goats, ten chickens, a rooster, like, that's
what my Independence Day was.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Here.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
We are.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Friends over, neighbors over we always do a pretty decent
firework show. We put it that's kind of together, last
minute barbecue and had a go old American you know,
your traditional American Independence Day. It was nice. I really
enjoyed myself. It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well all right, so I'm we have talked about this
on my show many times, and I have been going
against the grain many conservatives out there saying that, you know,
Joe Biden's going to be replaced. Many conservatives has been
saying this. A lot of people have been saying it
for a long time. It's going to be replaced six
months ago. I don't think it's possible. What's your take
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on all of this?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It would be and.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm with you on that. This look, we've seen a
lot of historic firsts. But the fact of the matter
is a lot of the commentary out there is being
leveled by people who really don't know what they're talking about.
They don't understand not only party rules, but state law,
which is totally different. And those say nothing of the
optics of what it would be to replace Joe Biden
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in somebody tens one hundred million people voted for to
be their nominee. So you just can't do that, Sewan,
Tens and tens of millions of people spoke, and it
would cause such a friction, it's such a not even
friction fracture within the party. Now to that, a lot
of people say, well, that's why they're replace him with
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Kamala Harris. But voters aren't voting, even Democratic primary voters,
they're not voting for Kamala Harris. They voted for Joe Biden.
And you know, like I said on your show last week,
I hate to say this, but it doesn't seem like
people know enough about this, and I have to spell
it out for them. It's not simply about the candidate
dropping out. There are many of these exceptions only have
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to do with whether the candidate is no longer with us.
Let me put it that way. So it's it's just
like a herculean task, and I don't see it happening,
you know. Voting.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, I mean, look, I mentioned there are there are
ballot access rules in place and in swing states where
Joe Biden simply can't get on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's too late.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And so Sean they own they almost didn't get on
the ballot in Ohio already. I mean, this is like
and that's because of the dysfunction, that's not because of
you know, them trying to replace him. If they tried
to replace him, he's not They're not getting on the
ballot in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So Rich, the only viable option for the Democrats is
you gonna talk Hey, Newsom doesn't He's not gonna want
to run against Trump. Shapiro's not gonna want run against Trump.
Witmer's not gonna run against Trump.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
The Shurrs.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Heck not gonna want the chaos that comes from passing
over Kamala Harris's VP. There'll be a lot of drama there.
So it's gotta be the only one. It's got to
be Kamala. She's the only one that can even legally
inherit Biden's war chest. But to me, this is just
me speaking. The electorate does not like Kamala Harris, and
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somehow she pulls less favorable than Joe Biden. Am I
wrong about this?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
No, you're not wrong. The Harvard Harris bolt just came
out and Trump was beating Biden by six, but he's
beating Harris by ten. And these are the numbers we've
seen before. We've pulled everyone, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Bernie Sanders,
Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama. I mean, we've thrown it all
on the table, and Biden is still the strongest candidate.
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And I know that makes Republicans like Scott like, how
could that be? But it is And I would tell
them to think of it like this. Monroe County, Michigan,
Macomb County, Michigan, Scranton, Pennsylvania, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. You know,
Pike County, Pennsylvania, Northampton, Pennsylvania, Erie, Pennsylvania. Do you think
these areas are gonna vote for Kamala Harris? Absolutely not,
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absolutely not. Joe Biden is his appeal for better or worse.
Whether you can see it or not, or we can
see it or not, that is just it's indisputable. I mean,
they call him Scranton Joe. We always tried to have
that persona she is a coastal lefty from California with
a checkered background, to say the least. I mean, this
is not going to fly in Middle America. It's just not.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We're talking to Rich Barris, director of Big Data poll
and host of Inside the Numbers. I think, just so
everyone's tracking out there, I think he's the best polster
in the business. And I've said many times in the show,
I don't trust one poll. We look at pluralities and
we look at trends, and nobody does it better than
Rich and so Rich. The Democrats, I've said on the
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segment prior, that seems to me they're becoming a victim
of their own election rigging. That Biden has all the
delegates Biden stacked the DNC Kamala Harris is the only
viable option. So let me ask you this, We've got
about four minutes left. Where did the Democrats go from here?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
They made their beds. Now they have to lie in it, Sean.
It it really is that simple. They kept Kennedy off
the ballot in multiple states, in New Hampshire where Dean
Phillips maybe maybe could have put on because that is
the state for people who don't know out there, that
is the state that's going to tell you whether you're
an incumbent and you have a base problem or you
have an issue. And surprisingly that he didn't do, you know,
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extremely fantastic there. Obama, Reagan, Clinton, and Trump got a
lot more of the vote share than they as an
incumbent sitting incumbent president than Biden did. Biden's kind of
down on the potem pole historically. But in order to
make sure that that was that was not going to
be a problem, they stripped the delegates out in New Hampshire, right, so, uh,
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you know, made sure that the front loaded states that
Joe Biden could do better in. This is a demon
of their own design, and really that's the only way
we can put it. And now they just have to
they have to deal with this, you know, see what
they can do with their get out the vote because again,
I mean, we just give people four or five reasons,
four or five challenges why it's not as simple as oh,
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we're just going to pluck Joe Biden out because it's
a bad candidate. We're not going to run him. That's
not how it works. And that gets in and what
you touched on it, it's nothing into the war chest.
Uh problem that they will have, which is, yeah, Kamala
can take that war chest. But this is what do
they do in this situation. They run it. They run
with it, and Republicans should want to because if you're
(25:09):
a Republican out there and you feel like you got
gypped this, you don't want Joe Biden to leave. You
need Donald Trump to beat Joe Biden so you could
show the system that you got justice for what they
did in twenty twenty. Do you know if it was
Kamala Harris, they're going to skate on that forever. Sean,
They're going to be able to skate across it forever.
If Joe Biden goes down to Donald Trump in twenty
(25:30):
four it will be a sign that the jig is up.
They know what you did. You tried to rig it
get backfired on you, and you were rejected and America
basically corrected the issue.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. I mean we're
talking with Rich Barris. I mean, Rich, we don't have
that much long left here in this segment. But can
you stick around for another segment?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Absolutely? Brother, Absolutely all.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right, stick around Rich. Listen, folks America. I am with you.
I'm with Rich here. I don't want Biden out of
this race. I want him to lose, and I want
him to lose to Trump. I want his last political
act to be going down in flames with a legitimate
loss to Donald Trump. And so we're going to talk
(26:13):
about that and polling and so much more when we
come back on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Stick right there. The Jesse Kelly Show I Like It
returns next.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
We are back here on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show.
My name is Sean Parnell. I'm in for my good
friend Jesse Kelly. Thanks for staying with us. We've been
talking with Savage Rich Barris, director of Big Data poll
about operation replace Biden. Can the Democrats do it? I
don't think that they can. If they do, I think
(26:47):
their only option is Kamala Harris and so Rich. Thank you,
first of all for sticking around for two segments. I
love talking to you, my friend. Looking at the new
Wall Street Journal poll that find that eighty percent of
Americans believe that Biden is too old to run for
president again, and let me just set this next question up.
(27:09):
I know that you believe, and I don't want to
put words in your mouth, but you believed that the
Trump debate was likely a mistake. He didn't want him
to take the risk he was winning. So Trump comes out,
he just had Biden has this disastrous debate, and Trump
is clearly the front runner. Now there's chaos in the
Democrat ranks. And what you and I spoke about on
(27:32):
the show this week was Trump has been unbelievably disciplined
as his political opponent self immolate, which is rule number
one on a campaign. If your opponent is in self
destruct mode, you just stay quiet. Well, Trump came out
yesterday and said he wants another debate, but with no moderators,
(27:52):
and he wants it to be no holds barred. And
my thought, Rich was please God know you.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Are already winning.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Like all you have to do, mister President, is tweet
out a gift of an American flag that says God
bless America, or just talk about your agenda. You don't
even need to address Joe Biden at all, Rich, what
do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Overconfident? Overconfident a huge mistake. Listen the first time. The
only reason I was wrong the first time. It's like,
not my fault. The nuketropics don't work on the guy anymore.
You know, I thought he would come out at least
animated like he did during this Native Union. But it
was just a complete catastrophe. But this was the moment
(28:40):
is lost already. And what I mean by that is
the debates are not set up in this country. And
it's said the president. You have the debate on presidential commissions.
They're a bunch of fanatics. They're supposed to be bipartisan.
It's a joke. Everybody is anti Trump, whether they're like
never trumpers on that commission or just straight Democrats who
camps stan him, or Republicans. And then the other part
(29:03):
that's supposed to be Republican is like the one that's
kind of groveling to be in the cool kids club
and to be let like to like, can I just
sleep at your feet at the table so when the
trumbs fall off, I can eat him. You know, this
needs to be reformed badly. And what Trump's talking about
is not even like I feel like the moment's already
lost and Biden needed that debate. He's not going to
(29:24):
be so eager to do it again, so he's gonna
want rules that benefit him. Donald Trump, if you was
going to debate Joe Biden, he should have used it
as an opportunity to reform the debate process in a
way that doesn't work for corporate media and work for
the advertisers like Big Pharma and the rest of them,
but in a way that really does serve and work
for the American people so they can hear, you know,
(29:45):
the difference between their leaders and there should be other people.
People were praising Jake Capper. I'm not going to praise him.
I mean, it was very clear he's trying to save
Joe Biden. Multiple times he said, you know, mister President,
you have more time, Like that's not the job of
the moderator. To tell the president he didn't fill in
the gaps of time, he forfeits the time. If this
time is done, Sean, if his answer is done, the
(30:06):
time is forfeited, and you move on. So and then,
by the way, after what twenty five to thirty minutes,
he pivoted to nonsense like J six and stuff that
was clearly intended to help Joe Biden. Abortion and the
rest of it. The public doesn't care really about that.
Like I'm in our poll right now, abortion is a
distant number four. Overwhelmingly, inflation and the cost of living
(30:30):
in this country are the issues that Americans wanted to
hear about. Beyond that, it's immigration and border security, and
then beyond that it's general economics and jobs. And this
is not what they spent their time talking about. So,
you know, I think Trump's being overconfident here, and you
never know what Joe Biden is going to show up.
(30:50):
If you're going to do it, at least serve a purpose,
you know, I mean, at this point, there's nothing else
he needs to do. Sean. Also, in that Wall Street
Journal poll, he was ahead by six points, So why
would you give why would you do anything to risk
that lead?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, look, I as much as I would like to
see Donald Trump give Joe Biden the people's elbow, I
also don't want anything to do. I don't want the guy.
I want the guy in the White House Rich, and
all he has to do is focus on his agenda.
Focus on the American people. Talk about Agenda forty seven,
(31:25):
talk about the economy, talk about how you're going to
fix inflation, talk about how you're going to seal the
southern border. I mean, get out there and just completely
ignore the animated corpse. He's barely there anyway. So this
brings me to this. We we talked to a little bit
about polling and what you're seeing in this post debate poll,
and I want to talk about an enigmatic group of
(31:46):
voters that always seems that at least the Republican establishment
is obsessed with. We've got about four minutes left and
we're talking with Savage Rich Barris, director of Big Data
poll Rich. You hear a lot about Republicans and what
are we going to do to win back suburban women,
what are we going to do and do we need
to uh?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
The truth is, when with Trump at the ballot and
with MAGA as the agenda you really don't need to
focus on what is essentially thirteen percent of the electorate.
We just obsess over it. It's unbelievable. Just to give
people some quick numbers, fifty two percent of the electorate
is typically women. Of those not all of them have
a college degree. And guess what, all of them live
in suburban America. Suburbs are only sewn about fifty percent
(32:29):
of the vote in total, not talking about and I
don't mean only, I mean that's half, but they're about
fifty percent of the vote in by area. And then
of that about half as women of that lest then
have the college degree. I mean, So we're obsessing about
what is essentially thirteen fourteen percent of the electorate while
we're forgetting that there is a for the first time
(32:50):
in my lifetime, a huge wealth of untapped voting potential.
You know, these are people that will come out for
Donald Trump, don't participate in the process all that much
to have Republicans have an enormous opportunity to get these
people to come out show and it's the difference between
a nail biter and then just going home at like
eleven thirty, like it's over. We're ending the stream. Now
(33:12):
it's over, we can go home. We know that everyone
can turn their turn off the lights and you know
there's a new president elect. And that's how many of
these voters there are. You know, try to give people
an idea, Like in Michigan alone, folks, you're talking about
a solid you know, seven hundred thousand to one point
three that on paper looked like they would be Republican
(33:33):
or Trumpelican if you could get them to the voting booth.
They should stop obsessing over the women that many of
which they cannot win back anyway. Then going change the
electorate the way Democrats did. Democrats at some point said
we're tired of trying to win over a certain group.
We're just going to change the electorate. And that's what
they did. Well. Now Republicans have the opportunity to do that.
(33:54):
Their best bet and the smartest bet, and the long
term stability and viability of their party is to go
after those voters, change the electorate, appeal to the younger
generation that MAGA is now appealing to, and move on
and build yourself, you know, a party that's going to
be viable in the future.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Rich you got about thirty seconds tell America. How they
can best support you.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, the best thing they could do is always shown
is to go to locals People's pundent dot locals dot com.
They could always just go to Big Data Pool as well.
Everything we do is through the Public Polling Project. It's crowdsource,
not funded by you know, corporations or anything. They can
go check it out there. They'll find that on locals
as well, People's Pundit right, locals dot com.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
All right, my friend Savage Rich Paris, Ladies and gentlemen,
thank you up. Next History of the Deep State, third
hour of the Jesse Kelly Radio Show, Stick with Us
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