December 6, 2024 • 37 mins
Should border patrol have the right to shoot at illegals? It needs be on the table. A high school teacher doesn't know who Hannibal Barca is. Who were the greatest military leaders of all time? The importance of getting at least one RINO out next primary.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on
a Friday, and it's been an amazing Friday with so
many questions done, so many more to get to the
weekend is upon us. So let's dig into this one here. Hey, Jesse,
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I'm curious your thoughts. The subject of this one is
OROE for border patrol. That's rules of engagement for you
civilian types. Hey, Jesse, just curious your thoughts on allowing
border patrol to start firing on people if they don't
obey commands to not enter at non ports of entry.
If you're giving a direct order to turn back and
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proceed to the port of entry, and you continue on
your path across the border, should we fire warning shots?
So on and so forth? What are your thoughts? His
name is Anthony. Well, this is one of those stances
that I take that gets all kinds of complaints to
the show in corporate. Remember, if you want to whine
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or complain, you're welcome to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
You can leave us a voicemail eight seven seven three
seven seven four three seven three. So I'll go ahead
and say it again as clear as day. Unless deadly
force is part of your security, you don't actually have security, period,
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end of story. It has to be on your list
or you don't have security. I used the example before.
It was a few weeks ago. But I use the
example before of you want to come into my home
and you want to steal my ice maker, and I
don't blame you for that, I tell you no. But
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unless I'm willing to do violent things to stop you,
then if you really want to, you can do it.
Violence has to be an option. I can even stand
there at the front door, Hey, don't come in. Don't
come in. But if you want to, and I've decided
that violence is off the table. Absolutely not. I'll never
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lay a hand on you. If you come in my home.
I won't kill you. If I won't do I don't
do violence. If I have that stance, then I don't
actually have security. What I have is you, meaning your
value system. I have to bank entirely on your value
system if I take violence off the table. Why is
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there a big bouncer with seventeen inch biceps at the
local club you're trying to get into. Why Because it
has to be understood that there is security, and if
you try to come through the security when you're not allowed,
violence will be visited upon you. Deadly. Force should absolutely
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be on the table for border patrol agents because without that,
you're banking on the value system of the people coming
into the country, and you can't bank on that. They've
already shown they're willing to violate our laws. Of course,
they're just going to sidestep you. You can't come out
and say things, well, we're not gonna harm anybody. Well,
we're not gonna, of course, not without violence. There's no
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real security period. I'll tell you this. Even in the Marines,
we would have there are places on base where they
store ammunition and dangerous things, explosive things, and you would
have to go guard those places on occasion, depending on
if you've got that detail or what not. And we
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were not given live rounds to cruise around the base with,
so don't think that that's the case. You'll have your
weapon to train, but you have to check it out.
No real live rounds unless you're out in the field,
then you check it back in. But when you had
to go guard, let's call it an AMMO depot of
some kind. You are not only given a weapon, you
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are given live rounds, and it is made crystal clear
to you. Obviously there are steps you take as far
as calling out warnings and things like that, and you
would want that. You don't just want to blast away,
But you have the authority no matter what, as a
young marine, as a PFC, as a private, I don't
care if that's a full bird colonel trying to get
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past you into the AMMO depot, if he doesn't have
the authority to do so, then you are allowed to
kill him and you are given live ammunition as you
are standing there, period, because they understood without the threat
of violence, without violence being on the menu, it has
to be one of the steps. Now you want it
to be the last step, right because it is the
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last step. But without it being one of the steps,
you don't have security. Of course, you should be able
to fight well. Border patrool, I should say, should be
able to fire upon people coming into the country illegally.
Every country in the history of the world would acknowledge
that's basic border security, and countries around the world still
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secure their border exactly this way, and they should go ahead,
go ahead and try to break into Egypt. If you're
in Palestine, go ahead and break into Egypt. See what happens.
They'll fire you and leave your stinking body right by
the wall. They're not even a hesitation. Nope, not welcome.
You want to die? Has to be done, Jesse. Where's
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all this communist activity coming from? And who is funding it? Russia, China, Soros, etc.
This is a long there's a long history to this,
and I'm not going to do all of it, obviously,
I'll do just a little bit of it here. I
expand in this a lot more in my book, but
the one I already wrote. Don't worry, I didn't write
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another book, the Anti Communist Manifesto. I kin go over
some of this, but there have been a lot of
great books on it, obviously, not just mine. First, remember,
communism coming to the United States of America was brought
here originally on purpose by the Soviets. We were at
war with the Soviet Union. This was honestly pre World
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War Two. This stuff was happening the Communists after their
revolution in the Soviet Union. They knew that this big
free market country of America was going to be a
problem for them. Member they wanted communism to be for
the entire world. It was never just supposed to be
for Russia. It was workers of the world. United was
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supposed to be for everyone. Everyone has to subject to it.
And they brought it here on purpose, with the unions, teachers, unions, journalism,
all the stuff you would think, trying everything they could
to get a foothold here. And they were successful enough that, well,
what's the best way I can describe it. Okay, here's
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a good example. Here's a good example. I want you
to picture of a seed, sunflower seed. You know what
sunflowers are, and all the seeds they produce. The original
sunflower was the Soviet Union. But it wasn't just here.
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They were trying to get communism in. They were trying
to put it in everywhere they could find it. France,
they were very, very successful in France and other places.
And what they were doing was they were dropping sunflower
seeds in these places, and so we'll focus on us
for the time being. They dropped the sunflower seed of
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communism here, and then of course the Soviet Union ends
up going down and the wallfalls and all those other
things that we think communism was defeated. Communism was not defeated.
The Soviet Union was defeated. They had already planted the
here and now most of our communism, not all because
a lot of it's funded by dirty foreigners, but most
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of our communism is actually homegrown American communists raising and
nurturing other communists. This happens a lot in the university
system of this country. These are communists, and I'm not
overstating this. Honestly, go read the book and borrow it
from a friend. If you don't have money, I'm not
trying to get you to buy my book. I'm really not.
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It's fine, I'm fine, don't worry about that. Borrow it
from someone where I outline committed communists like Weather, underground
communists who were trying to blow people up and have
a communist revolution, and in most ways, really in every way,
they failed at that. But they didn't fail and just
get locked in a cage forever. Many of them failed
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and then went right into the university system where they
are still teaching Aiden, Jaden and Braden to this day
about the greats of communism and the evils of America.
America now raises and nurtures its own communists. Originally it
was brought here by the Soviet Union. That sunflower came in.
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That's a sound the seeds make, peep dropped a couple
of seeds. Soviet Union eventually fell, but those seeds still grew.
And now we have homegrown communists, a lot of them
here in this country, and it's going to take a
lot of work getting them out. They sit on the
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Supreme Court for pizza.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners. So it becomes
a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk, And the
question of how many miners have to have their bodies
irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one that is best left.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm sorry, Counselor. Every medical treatment has a risk, even
taking astron There, that's the communist who sits on the
Supreme Court of the United States of America. Her name's
Sonya Sotomayor. That's her comparing chopping a teenage girl's breastsoft
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to taking an aspirin. Now we raise our own, we
nurture our own, and now it makes it harder because
it's internal, all right. Somebody wants to know a little
bit about history. Some of my favorite military leaders that's fun.
Hang on feeling a little stocky, Follow like and subscribe
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I got this knee sleeve. Everyone kept saying, try these
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my Son is in his last year of high school. Recently,
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they did a project in a history class to rank
and explain their top five military leaders of all time.
There are plenty of legitimate names you could put in
a top five list, but my son decided to put
Hannibal in the number five spot. To his dismay, the
history teacher. No way. To his dismay, the history teacher
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had never even heard of him and had to look
him up. Is this embarrassing for him? Or is this
just what they have for history teachers now? And he says,
I wonder, I'm wondering who you, as a fellow wobbly
need history nerd, would rank as your top five military
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leaders of all time? His name is Ryan. There's no
way that's true. Right A history teacher doesn't know who
Hannibal Barka was. No way, I guess there's I mean,
I have no reason this guy wouldn't lie. Why would
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the guy lie? So I guess I'll go ahead and
take him at his word. One man, that is that
is sad, That is truly sad. Hannibal Barka is. Maybe
you don't want to ever say anything for sure, because
who knows, But tactically probably the greatest general who ever lived. Tactically,
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tactics and strategies or strategies two different things. And this
is let me lay it out like this, because if
we're gonna talk generals and military leaders, you kind of
have to separate the two. If you're strategically the greatest
military commander of all time is probably Genghis Khan Gengis
Why because he facilitated or he planned and organized these
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huge or invasions involving different armies going in from different directions.
That's strategy. Strategically is we're gonna send an army sweeping
in through the north, and this other army is gonna
go through the Gobi Desert. That's strategic thinking. Okay. Tactic
thinking tactically is Okay, your army's over there, my army's
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over here. We're about to have a fight, and I see,
I see that your left flank is weak, So I'm
gonna put my cavalry on the left because I'm gonna
have them charge into your left flank, which will hopefully
have them collapse and roll up the rest. That's tactics. Okay.
Strategy and tactics are different things. And remember you need
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different kinds of generals for different things, which makes this
conversation a really fun and interesting debate. And when I
give you some of mine, I'll get a bunch of
emails disagreeing. And that's totally fun. I love that the
history debates and stuff like that is amazing. Uh I
would probably put Hannibal number two. Genghis Khan's number one.
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We'll I'll put it to you this way. In ancient times,
you get this, Think how cool this was? At one
point Scipio Africanus, the Roman general, the one who eventually
defeated Hannibal. They there's a record of this. They those
two legends, legendary generals in their own right. They could
both be on that list. They had an argument over
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who they thought were the greatest military leaders of all
time back then. How cool? What would you have given
to be a fly on the wall to hear that conversation.
You know who both of them had on their list?
Tell me this is wild. Somebody you don't even think
of Pirrus or Pearis depending on how you pronounce you
know who Pyrus was or Pearis? You ever heard of
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a peric victory? You've never heard of a Peric victory? Chris.
Chris said, he went to public school. Okay, all right,
let's have a little lesson for Chris. Whenever you hear
somebody say it was a pueric victory, it means you
won in the short term, but winning in the short
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term was so costly that you will lose in the end.
Pearis was a Greek jeral. He fought the Romans and
beat the crap out of the Romans. But at Piers, Chris,
if you're looking up, it's p y p y r Okay, Peers. Anyway,
he was this incredible Greek general who would beat the
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crap out of the Romans whenever he fought them. But
he didn't have enough reinforcement troops, and so he would
fight and he would win, but he would lose so
many troops in the process. In the end he couldn't
withstand the losses. So, yes, the battle itself was won,
but in the end he lost the war because the
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battle was so costly. That's called like if you're a
boxer and you come out one round and you beat
the living crap out of the guy you're fighting against,
but you don't knock him out, and in so doing
you gash yourself out. So you can't lift your arms
up anymore, and then he comes out and he beats
you up in the next round and wins the fight.
That first round where you won, that was a pyrrhic victory.
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It was great for you, but the fighting, the battle
cost it. So anyway, back to Hannibal and Skip Africanus,
those two both agreed that Peeris was on that list.
Most people don't even know who Pieris was. Jewish producer
Christy don't even know who he was. So there are
names on that list that are interesting. Anyway, it's an
interesting conversation. I'll touch on it a little bit more
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you missed any part of the show, you can download
the whole thing. iHeart Spotify iTunes. So greatest military commanders
of all time? Genghis cons number one in my book,
Hannibal is number two in my book. And when it
comes to generals, to be honest, your top ten, like
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three or four should probably be Genghis Khan's generals suba
di Genghis Khans really his supreme military commander for the
most part, Suba di subad I probably stands on his
own as one of the great generals of all time.
There's a book. Told you about it for a very
very short book, but you will love it. You will
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geek out. If you are a history nerd, you will
geek out on it. Chris, make sure I'm right about this.
I think it's called Subada the Valiant, subad I the Valiant.
I think it is. Oh gosh, it's so good, Subad I.
I should clarify, sub sub is what you need to be.
That's how it starts, subad I. And I think it's
at Ai. But sometimes when people say things on the radio,
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it used to frustrate me when I would trying to
nerd out on something, I couldn't tell exactly what they
were saying or how to look it up. As you
be subad anyway, Christ will get me the exact name
of the book. Is a really great book, Suba I, no, no,
super but I wouldn't be third. I know you're probably
screaming at the radio about Alexander the Great, so I
should probably make him third. I should clarify why he's
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not number one for me? For me, Alexander the Great
was incredible in every way, and the fact that the
historical people, the Romans, all those people, they all thought
he was the best. Like that that conversation I was
just I was just telling you about between Scipio Africanus
and Hannibal, they both agreed. Alexander the greats number one.
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So obviously we have to we have to give that
a lot of credence. They are more contemporaries of his
than we are. But the reason he's third on my
list is this. Alexander the Great's father, Philip the Second,
was an in readable military conqueror and builder of the
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Macedonian Empire. His father, Philip the Second, defeated virtually all
the other Greek city states and unified one gigantic Greece,
completely reformed their army into being a juggernaut, and he
had already established a foothold over in the Persian Empire.
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He was already planning on an invasion when he got assassinated.
Someone slipped the dagger between his ribs at a wedding.
It was a big, big, old hubbub thing, as you
can imagine. But this is not to take away from
Alexander the Great, who was absurdly brave and tactically was amazing.
He was all those things. He really was propped up
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to be this Subidai the Valiant. I knew I was right.
Subadaie the Valiant is the name of the book. Alexander
the Great really was destined for it.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Like a.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Today. You want to know how I know I'm getting old?
You know, I know I'm getting I'm starting to get
back into baseball again more and more. As I soured
on the other professional sports I used to love, I'm
starting to enjoy baseball more and more. The patriotism of
it is better. It's a better family environment. I'm really
I'm that old guy. Now I'm starting to get back
into baseball a lot. And you know what's difficult about it.
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I am now watching the sons of the players I
grew up watching when I was a child. I grew
up rooting for Dante Boshett. His son Bobashett plays in
the Majors. When I was a kid, we used to
go in the backyard because that was back when kids
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played outside. We used to go in the backyard and
we would have these wif football tournaments where you had
to have the batting stance and swing of your favorite players,
and you would pick your favorite players. I'm Frank Thomas
and I'm Kan Griffrey Junr. We pitched each other and
things like that. When I was a kid, I used
to bat all the time as Vladimir Guerrero. You know
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who one of the best hitters in baseball is now,
Vladimir Guerrero Junior. I'm having to watch his sun fine anyway,
But think about think about Vladimir Guerrero Junior's life. And
I don't know anyth about him, and I'm not certainly
not bad bathing him at all or anything like that.
Maybe a wonderful guy or a bad guy, I don't know.
But think about how he grew up. Think about the
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tutelage he grew up. I grew up as a young
man on construction sites. When I saw my dad at work,
it was during construction. No matter what it was, construction
that was my upbringing. Vladimir Guerrero grew up in Major
League Baseball clubhouses, getting tutoring and schooling from the greatest
baseball players on the planet. That's not being dismissive of
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the hard work I'm sure he had to put in
to rise to the level of being a major League
baseball player. But I think we can and all acknowledge
that's a fairly big advantage. There's it's not an accident.
The Manning brothers and everyone in that family seems to
be a great quarterback and goes to the NFL. The
one of them is now currently at Texas. Think what
it's like for him sitting down at Thanksgiving. He's got
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Archie Manning, Peyton Manning, and Eli Manning. While you and
I are screwing off in the backyard playing smear that
playing football games in the backyard at Thanksgiving, he's getting
expert tutelage on this is how you drop back again.
So back to Alexander the Great, not taking anything away
from him. His father was a beast and absolute beast
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and really put him on third base. Yeah he did
great with it, but one of those born on third
base things. Jesse, I'm from Mississippi and we had a
g We have a GOP Senator Wicker who desperately needs
to be primaried out of the Senate. Yes he does.
We had a great candidate last time, but unfortunately the
entrenchment was too deep. Why don't we select a broadly
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disliked GOP senator like Lindsay Graham, for whose opponent it
should be easier to raise a lot of cash. I'm
not wealthy, but I would send money to a good
candidate worthy of taking Lindsay's seat. Well, a touchdown this yesterday,
and we will touch on this a lot, because this
is something that I'm going to focus on a lot
on this show, is defeating GOP senators in blood red
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states in their primaries. But I'm gonna tell you right now,
it's going to be hard, you know that, and it's
going to probably take us some time because, as I
laid out, to defeat an incumbent senator, it is going
to require one guy, not a crowded field. That's usually
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what happens. You get four or five guys challenging the
main guy. It has to be one guy. And that
one guy not only has to be good, he has
to be an anti communist like us. He has to
be able to raise money on his own. And I
know you're thinking, well, we'll raise him money. Yeah, well
I will help, obviously, you will help will help. We're
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talking thirty forty million dollars. That's probably a bare minimum
of what it's going to take. At least twenty twenty,
thirty forty million dollars is probably what it's going to
take to face off against an established GOP senator and
defeat him in a primary. Don't think that that's too
daunting though. There are plenty of guys out there that
can do it. There are governors who can do it,
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there are state ags who can do it. Sitting congressmen
have access to some of those networks that can do it.
There are established people who can do this. I'm not
saying it's impossible at all, but those are the things
we have to have in place if we're going to
defeat a GOP senator. It's not enough here will make
it about me in my state, because you know how
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much I hate John Gordon. Everyone knows. It's not enough
to just say I hate John Cornyan or we're sick
of John Cornyan. That's a good start. I like that
we're there, that's a good start, Oh, Chris, Chris said.
Cornan spent thirty six million dollars in twenty twenty. Yep,
you don't have to match him, but you're gonna have
to raise fifteen twenty. So I hate John Cornyan. You
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hate John Cornyan. We want to defeat John Cornan. Whether
you're in Texas or not, that's a good place. That's
a necessary step one. I'm not dismissive of that. But
if we're going to defeat him in twenty twenty six,
it's going to require someone who's established, who most people
in the Texas GOP already know, and it's going to
require somebody who has the ability to raise fifteen million
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dollars twenty million dollars. Now, don't send me any emails.
I don't want an email from you. Say we got
to get the money out of politics. Stop. That's childish thinking.
You can't get the money out of politics, no matter
how hard you try. You could go back to ancient history.
Money has always been in politics, always will. You can
wish that all day long, wish in one hand, crap
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in the other, and see which one fills up first,
as my dad used to tell me all the time.
So we have to have someone who can raise money, period.
We'll focus on that. I don't hate your idea about
picking one. We're gonna have to pick one who has
the primary challenger I was just talking about, and where
that's going to come from. I don't know. Maybe it'd
be Oklahoma, maybe it will be Texas, maybe it'll be
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South Carolina, South Dakotin. I don't know, maybe it'll be Mississippi.
But we can try.
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don't pay taxes. They'll pay in a thousand and get
back ten thousand. Why do they do that?
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Because that's how you get a lot, by sticking your fat,
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I hate it, Hey, Jesse Vanilla k cream Kelly. When
you sample Chris is hot stinky trash homemade mustard, you
gotta suck it off the hot dog like Kamala Harris.
You're just gonna take the whole thing like beet boo Jedge.
I'm just wondering, and stop breaking everything you get from
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Speaker 1 (30:35):
I hate you guys. We all know Chris's mustard is
gonna suck I know it all you. I didn't even
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after the show was over. Because we're gonna do a
mustard taste test. Of course, Chris is using his own.
I'm sure it's to save money. He's making his own.
He drops this on me and Corey when the show's over.
By the way, what did he say, Corey? It has
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to ferment for a month or something like that. He's
trying in a filibuster the mustard taste test. That's exactly
what you're doing, Chris. What Chris, No one wants to
hear your excuses. He just said, if you get it
too fresh, it's too green to Oh, Chris, you know what.
That's fine. You know who's not gonna forget the listeners.
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You know what. The month starts now, a month from now,
when we get back from New Year's and Christmas and
all that stuff, I expect to have the mustard taste
test ready. We'll see. I'm gonna give you a fair shake,
I am, Chris. I'm gonna be blindfolded. Okay, it's gonna
be completely fair. I will and make sure we get
the good wieners too, the ballpark bun sized ones. No,
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we're not getting Hebrew. We're not getting Hebrew Nationals, Chris. Okay,
they're overrated. No, everyone knew you were gonna shield for
your people. No ballpark bun size will get beef. You
people can eat those. See what you can you can't.
Oh yeah, I guess it isn't kosher. Well I tried, Hey, Jack,
see I listen. I listened to an enjoy your show
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every evening delayed broadcast nine to midnight. Dang, that's brutal
on WXJBFM ninety nine point nine. I like your trademark comment.
That's all at the end of every show. Now, I
was wondering how you came to close your show with
Slow Ride from the nineteen seventy five Fool for the
City album by fog Hat. Maybe it's a warning to
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road rage drivers and there are plenty of them that
stay well and merry Christmas. Chris, we've been doing slow
Ride to intro the last segment for years, right, what what?
How do we It's always been the outro from day one.
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I think you did that, didn't you. I think I
think Jewish producer Chris came up to that. Chris said
it was day one. I knew it was old because
we've only been we've been doing radio six years. I
knew it was old when we first when we first
started doing the show, You'll never even be able to
find these tapes. I'm sure it was awful. But the
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start of the show was not the song you hear now,
which is highway tuned by Greta van Fleet. When we
first did it, it was that fogheat song. I Just
want to Make Love to You was the name of
that song, and that song has That song is pretty average,
but the intro to it, the opening is sick, and
that was the opening, and so I think from that
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you made slow Ride the exit to the show. It
was actually Chris came up with that. Yeah, that was
that's day one. Wow, gosh, man, what a blast in
the past. Jesse, Chris and Corey. Don't ask these guys anything.
I just saw an exit. Genghis Khan had two thousand
people at his funeral. I knew that, nobody knew where
he was buried, and they changed the direction of the river, YadA, YadA.
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But he supposedly had two thousand people killed and then
somebody else killed the exit cutioners. What in the world.
I can't believe it. Is it true? All right? Is
it true? I'm gonna I'm gonna burst your bubble maybe
a little bit on a few things. Okay, when it
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comes to Genghis Khan and many other things, I'll get
to them in a moment. When it comes to Ganghis Khan,
his quotes, his battles, is things like that, a lot
of the details come from very shaky sources. Oh, we
know Ganghis Khan was real, and we know about the conquests,
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and then there was enough written history back then he
was this amazing Mongolian general and that all these other
things we know. We know all those other things are true.
The huge the high points of Genghis Khan's life we
know are true. But what's the A great quote? Here's
one of one of Genghis Khan's great quotes is I
am the flail of God. If you had not created,
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if you had not committed great sins, God would never
have sent a punishment like me upon you. It's also
sometimes quoted as the scourge of God, flail of God.
They're both ways, what Chris, what Chris? I have to
say something else? Chris is begging me not to ruin it.
We don't know that he ever said that. It comes
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from one source. That's fairly shaky. His entire background, with
his childhood where he shot his brother with arrows and
then was an outcast, and that stuff is likely true
from what we know. But we don't know no, unless
you're reading about a society where they were meticulous about
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writing everything down. The Chinese, the ancient Chinese. Granted that
scumbag Mao destroyed a lot of that history, but if
you're reading ancient Chinese history, they wrote down every free thing,
you can probably bank on that. More Roman history. The
Romans kept records of everything, mind numbing records. If it's
oral history. Remember the Mongols, they were just a nomadic
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people's in the Asian step. They weren't exactly scholars jotting
everything down. It's not that it's just we don't know
about a lot we don't know. No, the stories we
tell it is the I'll use this word for it,
it's the accepted history. There's a lot of history we
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know that may not be exactly how it happened, and
vice versa. Remember there's mountains and mountains and mountains we
know just the tip of history, just the tippy tippy
tip of it. There's an entire history realm that we
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will never know until we get to heaven and ask
God about it. We will never know because and the
reason we only get just a tip. That's just a
tip that got written down. It's the tip of the iceberg.
You've ever seen one of those pictures. We're just the
tip is sticking out of the water and there's this
huge iceberg beneath it. That's you and me with our
knowledge of history. That's how it is. All right, we
(37:19):
have more. Let's talk about calling your senators and reps.
All that and a lot more fun coming up next hour.
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on
a Friday, and it's been an amazing Friday with so
many questions done, so many more to get to the
weekend is upon us. So let's dig into this one here. Hey, Jesse,
(00:34):
I'm curious your thoughts. The subject of this one is
OROE for border patrol. That's rules of engagement for you
civilian types. Hey, Jesse, just curious your thoughts on allowing
border patrol to start firing on people if they don't
obey commands to not enter at non ports of entry.
If you're giving a direct order to turn back and
(00:54):
proceed to the port of entry, and you continue on
your path across the border, should we fire warning shots?
So on and so forth? What are your thoughts? His
name is Anthony. Well, this is one of those stances
that I take that gets all kinds of complaints to
the show in corporate. Remember, if you want to whine
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or complain, you're welcome to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
You can leave us a voicemail eight seven seven three
seven seven four three seven three. So I'll go ahead
and say it again as clear as day. Unless deadly
force is part of your security, you don't actually have security, period,
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end of story. It has to be on your list
or you don't have security. I used the example before.
It was a few weeks ago. But I use the
example before of you want to come into my home
and you want to steal my ice maker, and I
don't blame you for that, I tell you no. But
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unless I'm willing to do violent things to stop you,
then if you really want to, you can do it.
Violence has to be an option. I can even stand
there at the front door, Hey, don't come in. Don't
come in. But if you want to, and I've decided
that violence is off the table. Absolutely not. I'll never
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lay a hand on you. If you come in my home.
I won't kill you. If I won't do I don't
do violence. If I have that stance, then I don't
actually have security. What I have is you, meaning your
value system. I have to bank entirely on your value
system if I take violence off the table. Why is
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there a big bouncer with seventeen inch biceps at the
local club you're trying to get into. Why Because it
has to be understood that there is security, and if
you try to come through the security when you're not allowed,
violence will be visited upon you. Deadly. Force should absolutely
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be on the table for border patrol agents because without that,
you're banking on the value system of the people coming
into the country, and you can't bank on that. They've
already shown they're willing to violate our laws. Of course,
they're just going to sidestep you. You can't come out
and say things, well, we're not gonna harm anybody. Well,
we're not gonna, of course, not without violence. There's no
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real security period. I'll tell you this. Even in the Marines,
we would have there are places on base where they
store ammunition and dangerous things, explosive things, and you would
have to go guard those places on occasion, depending on
if you've got that detail or what not. And we
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were not given live rounds to cruise around the base with,
so don't think that that's the case. You'll have your
weapon to train, but you have to check it out.
No real live rounds unless you're out in the field,
then you check it back in. But when you had
to go guard, let's call it an AMMO depot of
some kind. You are not only given a weapon, you
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are given live rounds, and it is made crystal clear
to you. Obviously there are steps you take as far
as calling out warnings and things like that, and you
would want that. You don't just want to blast away,
But you have the authority no matter what, as a
young marine, as a PFC, as a private, I don't
care if that's a full bird colonel trying to get
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past you into the AMMO depot, if he doesn't have
the authority to do so, then you are allowed to
kill him and you are given live ammunition as you
are standing there, period, because they understood without the threat
of violence, without violence being on the menu, it has
to be one of the steps. Now you want it
to be the last step, right because it is the
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last step. But without it being one of the steps,
you don't have security. Of course, you should be able
to fight well. Border patrool, I should say, should be
able to fire upon people coming into the country illegally.
Every country in the history of the world would acknowledge
that's basic border security, and countries around the world still
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secure their border exactly this way, and they should go ahead,
go ahead and try to break into Egypt. If you're
in Palestine, go ahead and break into Egypt. See what happens.
They'll fire you and leave your stinking body right by
the wall. They're not even a hesitation. Nope, not welcome.
You want to die? Has to be done, Jesse. Where's
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all this communist activity coming from? And who is funding it? Russia, China, Soros, etc.
This is a long there's a long history to this,
and I'm not going to do all of it, obviously,
I'll do just a little bit of it here. I
expand in this a lot more in my book, but
the one I already wrote. Don't worry, I didn't write
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another book, the Anti Communist Manifesto. I kin go over
some of this, but there have been a lot of
great books on it, obviously, not just mine. First, remember,
communism coming to the United States of America was brought
here originally on purpose by the Soviets. We were at
war with the Soviet Union. This was honestly pre World
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War Two. This stuff was happening the Communists after their
revolution in the Soviet Union. They knew that this big
free market country of America was going to be a
problem for them. Member they wanted communism to be for
the entire world. It was never just supposed to be
for Russia. It was workers of the world. United was
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supposed to be for everyone. Everyone has to subject to it.
And they brought it here on purpose, with the unions, teachers, unions, journalism,
all the stuff you would think, trying everything they could
to get a foothold here. And they were successful enough that, well,
what's the best way I can describe it. Okay, here's
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a good example. Here's a good example. I want you
to picture of a seed, sunflower seed. You know what
sunflowers are, and all the seeds they produce. The original
sunflower was the Soviet Union. But it wasn't just here.
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They were trying to get communism in. They were trying
to put it in everywhere they could find it. France,
they were very, very successful in France and other places.
And what they were doing was they were dropping sunflower
seeds in these places, and so we'll focus on us
for the time being. They dropped the sunflower seed of
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communism here, and then of course the Soviet Union ends
up going down and the wallfalls and all those other
things that we think communism was defeated. Communism was not defeated.
The Soviet Union was defeated. They had already planted the
here and now most of our communism, not all because
a lot of it's funded by dirty foreigners, but most
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of our communism is actually homegrown American communists raising and
nurturing other communists. This happens a lot in the university
system of this country. These are communists, and I'm not
overstating this. Honestly, go read the book and borrow it
from a friend. If you don't have money, I'm not
trying to get you to buy my book. I'm really not.
(08:28):
It's fine, I'm fine, don't worry about that. Borrow it
from someone where I outline committed communists like Weather, underground
communists who were trying to blow people up and have
a communist revolution, and in most ways, really in every way,
they failed at that. But they didn't fail and just
get locked in a cage forever. Many of them failed
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and then went right into the university system where they
are still teaching Aiden, Jaden and Braden to this day
about the greats of communism and the evils of America.
America now raises and nurtures its own communists. Originally it
was brought here by the Soviet Union. That sunflower came in.
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That's a sound the seeds make, peep dropped a couple
of seeds. Soviet Union eventually fell, but those seeds still grew.
And now we have homegrown communists, a lot of them
here in this country, and it's going to take a
lot of work getting them out. They sit on the
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Supreme Court for pizza.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners. So it becomes
a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk, And the
question of how many miners have to have their bodies
irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one that is best left.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm sorry, Counselor. Every medical treatment has a risk, even
taking astron There, that's the communist who sits on the
Supreme Court of the United States of America. Her name's
Sonya Sotomayor. That's her comparing chopping a teenage girl's breastsoft
(10:15):
to taking an aspirin. Now we raise our own, we
nurture our own, and now it makes it harder because
it's internal, all right. Somebody wants to know a little
bit about history. Some of my favorite military leaders that's fun.
Hang on feeling a little stocky, Follow like and subscribe
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four three seven three. Dear promoter of nice Slie of
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the Nie sleeve Industrial Complex. I'll have you know my
knee sleeve has been very effective, yet has Chris. It's
been amazing. Listen, Whenever I would work out do like
lunges or squats or deadlifts or something like that, my
left knee would be so stiff for the rest of
the day. No, it's not because some eighty five Chris. Anyway,
(11:22):
I got this knee sleeve. Everyone kept saying, try these
knee sleeves out, and I have no idea why it works,
but I use that work like a charm. Granted, Bob
is not thrilled that I walked through the neighborhood with
the knee sleeve on and shorts on. Says it looks
dorky and stuff like that, but very very effective. Jesse
my Son is in his last year of high school. Recently,
(11:42):
they did a project in a history class to rank
and explain their top five military leaders of all time.
There are plenty of legitimate names you could put in
a top five list, but my son decided to put
Hannibal in the number five spot. To his dismay, the
history teacher. No way. To his dismay, the history teacher
(12:05):
had never even heard of him and had to look
him up. Is this embarrassing for him? Or is this
just what they have for history teachers now? And he says,
I wonder, I'm wondering who you, as a fellow wobbly
need history nerd, would rank as your top five military
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leaders of all time? His name is Ryan. There's no
way that's true. Right A history teacher doesn't know who
Hannibal Barka was. No way, I guess there's I mean,
I have no reason this guy wouldn't lie. Why would
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the guy lie? So I guess I'll go ahead and
take him at his word. One man, that is that
is sad, That is truly sad. Hannibal Barka is. Maybe
you don't want to ever say anything for sure, because
who knows, But tactically probably the greatest general who ever lived. Tactically,
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tactics and strategies or strategies two different things. And this
is let me lay it out like this, because if
we're gonna talk generals and military leaders, you kind of
have to separate the two. If you're strategically the greatest
military commander of all time is probably Genghis Khan Gengis
Why because he facilitated or he planned and organized these
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huge or invasions involving different armies going in from different directions.
That's strategy. Strategically is we're gonna send an army sweeping
in through the north, and this other army is gonna
go through the Gobi Desert. That's strategic thinking. Okay. Tactic
thinking tactically is Okay, your army's over there, my army's
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over here. We're about to have a fight, and I see,
I see that your left flank is weak, So I'm
gonna put my cavalry on the left because I'm gonna
have them charge into your left flank, which will hopefully
have them collapse and roll up the rest. That's tactics. Okay.
Strategy and tactics are different things. And remember you need
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different kinds of generals for different things, which makes this
conversation a really fun and interesting debate. And when I
give you some of mine, I'll get a bunch of
emails disagreeing. And that's totally fun. I love that the
history debates and stuff like that is amazing. Uh I
would probably put Hannibal number two. Genghis Khan's number one.
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We'll I'll put it to you this way. In ancient times,
you get this, Think how cool this was? At one
point Scipio Africanus, the Roman general, the one who eventually
defeated Hannibal. They there's a record of this. They those
two legends, legendary generals in their own right. They could
both be on that list. They had an argument over
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who they thought were the greatest military leaders of all
time back then. How cool? What would you have given
to be a fly on the wall to hear that conversation.
You know who both of them had on their list?
Tell me this is wild. Somebody you don't even think
of Pirrus or Pearis depending on how you pronounce you
know who Pyrus was or Pearis? You ever heard of
(15:28):
a peric victory? You've never heard of a Peric victory? Chris.
Chris said, he went to public school. Okay, all right,
let's have a little lesson for Chris. Whenever you hear
somebody say it was a pueric victory, it means you
won in the short term, but winning in the short
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term was so costly that you will lose in the end.
Pearis was a Greek jeral. He fought the Romans and
beat the crap out of the Romans. But at Piers, Chris,
if you're looking up, it's p y p y r Okay, Peers. Anyway,
he was this incredible Greek general who would beat the
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crap out of the Romans whenever he fought them. But
he didn't have enough reinforcement troops, and so he would
fight and he would win, but he would lose so
many troops in the process. In the end he couldn't
withstand the losses. So, yes, the battle itself was won,
but in the end he lost the war because the
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battle was so costly. That's called like if you're a
boxer and you come out one round and you beat
the living crap out of the guy you're fighting against,
but you don't knock him out, and in so doing
you gash yourself out. So you can't lift your arms
up anymore, and then he comes out and he beats
you up in the next round and wins the fight.
That first round where you won, that was a pyrrhic victory.
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It was great for you, but the fighting, the battle
cost it. So anyway, back to Hannibal and Skip Africanus,
those two both agreed that Peeris was on that list.
Most people don't even know who Pieris was. Jewish producer
Christy don't even know who he was. So there are
names on that list that are interesting. Anyway, it's an
interesting conversation. I'll touch on it a little bit more
(17:18):
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you missed any part of the show, you can download
the whole thing. iHeart Spotify iTunes. So greatest military commanders
of all time? Genghis cons number one in my book,
Hannibal is number two in my book. And when it
comes to generals, to be honest, your top ten, like
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three or four should probably be Genghis Khan's generals suba
di Genghis Khans really his supreme military commander for the
most part, Suba di subad I probably stands on his
own as one of the great generals of all time.
There's a book. Told you about it for a very
very short book, but you will love it. You will
(19:35):
geek out. If you are a history nerd, you will
geek out on it. Chris, make sure I'm right about this.
I think it's called Subada the Valiant, subad I the Valiant.
I think it is. Oh gosh, it's so good, Subad I.
I should clarify, sub sub is what you need to be.
That's how it starts, subad I. And I think it's
at Ai. But sometimes when people say things on the radio,
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it used to frustrate me when I would trying to
nerd out on something, I couldn't tell exactly what they
were saying or how to look it up. As you
be subad anyway, Christ will get me the exact name
of the book. Is a really great book, Suba I, no, no,
super but I wouldn't be third. I know you're probably
screaming at the radio about Alexander the Great, so I
should probably make him third. I should clarify why he's
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not number one for me? For me, Alexander the Great
was incredible in every way, and the fact that the
historical people, the Romans, all those people, they all thought
he was the best. Like that that conversation I was
just I was just telling you about between Scipio Africanus
and Hannibal, they both agreed. Alexander the greats number one.
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So obviously we have to we have to give that
a lot of credence. They are more contemporaries of his
than we are. But the reason he's third on my
list is this. Alexander the Great's father, Philip the Second,
was an in readable military conqueror and builder of the
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Macedonian Empire. His father, Philip the Second, defeated virtually all
the other Greek city states and unified one gigantic Greece,
completely reformed their army into being a juggernaut, and he
had already established a foothold over in the Persian Empire.
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He was already planning on an invasion when he got assassinated.
Someone slipped the dagger between his ribs at a wedding.
It was a big, big, old hubbub thing, as you
can imagine. But this is not to take away from
Alexander the Great, who was absurdly brave and tactically was amazing.
He was all those things. He really was propped up
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to be this Subidai the Valiant. I knew I was right.
Subadaie the Valiant is the name of the book. Alexander
the Great really was destined for it.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Like a.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Today. You want to know how I know I'm getting old?
You know, I know I'm getting I'm starting to get
back into baseball again more and more. As I soured
on the other professional sports I used to love, I'm
starting to enjoy baseball more and more. The patriotism of
it is better. It's a better family environment. I'm really
I'm that old guy. Now I'm starting to get back
into baseball a lot. And you know what's difficult about it.
(22:24):
I am now watching the sons of the players I
grew up watching when I was a child. I grew
up rooting for Dante Boshett. His son Bobashett plays in
the Majors. When I was a kid, we used to
go in the backyard because that was back when kids
(22:46):
played outside. We used to go in the backyard and
we would have these wif football tournaments where you had
to have the batting stance and swing of your favorite players,
and you would pick your favorite players. I'm Frank Thomas
and I'm Kan Griffrey Junr. We pitched each other and
things like that. When I was a kid, I used
to bat all the time as Vladimir Guerrero. You know
(23:07):
who one of the best hitters in baseball is now,
Vladimir Guerrero Junior. I'm having to watch his sun fine anyway,
But think about think about Vladimir Guerrero Junior's life. And
I don't know anyth about him, and I'm not certainly
not bad bathing him at all or anything like that.
Maybe a wonderful guy or a bad guy, I don't know.
But think about how he grew up. Think about the
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tutelage he grew up. I grew up as a young
man on construction sites. When I saw my dad at work,
it was during construction. No matter what it was, construction
that was my upbringing. Vladimir Guerrero grew up in Major
League Baseball clubhouses, getting tutoring and schooling from the greatest
baseball players on the planet. That's not being dismissive of
(23:53):
the hard work I'm sure he had to put in
to rise to the level of being a major League
baseball player. But I think we can and all acknowledge
that's a fairly big advantage. There's it's not an accident.
The Manning brothers and everyone in that family seems to
be a great quarterback and goes to the NFL. The
one of them is now currently at Texas. Think what
it's like for him sitting down at Thanksgiving. He's got
(24:16):
Archie Manning, Peyton Manning, and Eli Manning. While you and
I are screwing off in the backyard playing smear that
playing football games in the backyard at Thanksgiving, he's getting
expert tutelage on this is how you drop back again.
So back to Alexander the Great, not taking anything away
from him. His father was a beast and absolute beast
(24:38):
and really put him on third base. Yeah he did
great with it, but one of those born on third
base things. Jesse, I'm from Mississippi and we had a
g We have a GOP Senator Wicker who desperately needs
to be primaried out of the Senate. Yes he does.
We had a great candidate last time, but unfortunately the
entrenchment was too deep. Why don't we select a broadly
(25:01):
disliked GOP senator like Lindsay Graham, for whose opponent it
should be easier to raise a lot of cash. I'm
not wealthy, but I would send money to a good
candidate worthy of taking Lindsay's seat. Well, a touchdown this yesterday,
and we will touch on this a lot, because this
is something that I'm going to focus on a lot
on this show, is defeating GOP senators in blood red
(25:25):
states in their primaries. But I'm gonna tell you right now,
it's going to be hard, you know that, and it's
going to probably take us some time because, as I
laid out, to defeat an incumbent senator, it is going
to require one guy, not a crowded field. That's usually
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what happens. You get four or five guys challenging the
main guy. It has to be one guy. And that
one guy not only has to be good, he has
to be an anti communist like us. He has to
be able to raise money on his own. And I
know you're thinking, well, we'll raise him money. Yeah, well
I will help, obviously, you will help will help. We're
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talking thirty forty million dollars. That's probably a bare minimum
of what it's going to take. At least twenty twenty,
thirty forty million dollars is probably what it's going to
take to face off against an established GOP senator and
defeat him in a primary. Don't think that that's too
daunting though. There are plenty of guys out there that
can do it. There are governors who can do it,
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there are state ags who can do it. Sitting congressmen
have access to some of those networks that can do it.
There are established people who can do this. I'm not
saying it's impossible at all, but those are the things
we have to have in place if we're going to
defeat a GOP senator. It's not enough here will make
it about me in my state, because you know how
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much I hate John Gordon. Everyone knows. It's not enough
to just say I hate John Cornyan or we're sick
of John Cornyan. That's a good start. I like that
we're there, that's a good start, Oh, Chris, Chris said.
Cornan spent thirty six million dollars in twenty twenty. Yep,
you don't have to match him, but you're gonna have
to raise fifteen twenty. So I hate John Cornyan. You
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hate John Cornyan. We want to defeat John Cornan. Whether
you're in Texas or not, that's a good place. That's
a necessary step one. I'm not dismissive of that. But
if we're going to defeat him in twenty twenty six,
it's going to require someone who's established, who most people
in the Texas GOP already know, and it's going to
require somebody who has the ability to raise fifteen million
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dollars twenty million dollars. Now, don't send me any emails.
I don't want an email from you. Say we got
to get the money out of politics. Stop. That's childish thinking.
You can't get the money out of politics, no matter
how hard you try. You could go back to ancient history.
Money has always been in politics, always will. You can
wish that all day long, wish in one hand, crap
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in the other, and see which one fills up first,
as my dad used to tell me all the time.
So we have to have someone who can raise money, period.
We'll focus on that. I don't hate your idea about
picking one. We're gonna have to pick one who has
the primary challenger I was just talking about, and where
that's going to come from. I don't know. Maybe it'd
be Oklahoma, maybe it will be Texas, maybe it'll be
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South Carolina, South Dakotin. I don't know, maybe it'll be Mississippi.
But we can try.
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What does are good keep paying people extra money that
don't pay taxes. They'll pay in a thousand and get
back ten thousand. Why do they do that?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Because that's how you get a lot, by sticking your fat,
greedy fingers into the treasury, grabbing a lot of cash
and throwing it to the masses. It's always been that way,
always will be that way. It's freaking off.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I hate it, Hey, Jesse Vanilla k cream Kelly. When
you sample Chris is hot stinky trash homemade mustard, you
gotta suck it off the hot dog like Kamala Harris.
You're just gonna take the whole thing like beet boo Jedge.
I'm just wondering, and stop breaking everything you get from
goveacs Man. Next it's gonna be the dag com Neeasie.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I hate you guys. We all know Chris's mustard is
gonna suck I know it all you. I didn't even
tell you the update on what he dropped on me
after the show was over. Because we're gonna do a
mustard taste test. Of course, Chris is using his own.
I'm sure it's to save money. He's making his own.
He drops this on me and Corey when the show's over.
By the way, what did he say, Corey? It has
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to ferment for a month or something like that. He's
trying in a filibuster the mustard taste test. That's exactly
what you're doing, Chris. What Chris, No one wants to
hear your excuses. He just said, if you get it
too fresh, it's too green to Oh, Chris, you know what.
That's fine. You know who's not gonna forget the listeners.
(31:18):
You know what. The month starts now, a month from now,
when we get back from New Year's and Christmas and
all that stuff, I expect to have the mustard taste
test ready. We'll see. I'm gonna give you a fair shake,
I am, Chris. I'm gonna be blindfolded. Okay, it's gonna
be completely fair. I will and make sure we get
the good wieners too, the ballpark bun sized ones. No,
(31:41):
we're not getting Hebrew. We're not getting Hebrew Nationals, Chris. Okay,
they're overrated. No, everyone knew you were gonna shield for
your people. No ballpark bun size will get beef. You
people can eat those. See what you can you can't.
Oh yeah, I guess it isn't kosher. Well I tried, Hey, Jack,
see I listen. I listened to an enjoy your show
(32:02):
every evening delayed broadcast nine to midnight. Dang, that's brutal
on WXJBFM ninety nine point nine. I like your trademark comment.
That's all at the end of every show. Now, I
was wondering how you came to close your show with
Slow Ride from the nineteen seventy five Fool for the
City album by fog Hat. Maybe it's a warning to
(32:24):
road rage drivers and there are plenty of them that
stay well and merry Christmas. Chris, we've been doing slow
Ride to intro the last segment for years, right, what what?
How do we It's always been the outro from day one.
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I think you did that, didn't you. I think I
think Jewish producer Chris came up to that. Chris said
it was day one. I knew it was old because
we've only been we've been doing radio six years. I
knew it was old when we first when we first
started doing the show, You'll never even be able to
find these tapes. I'm sure it was awful. But the
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start of the show was not the song you hear now,
which is highway tuned by Greta van Fleet. When we
first did it, it was that fogheat song. I Just
want to Make Love to You was the name of
that song, and that song has That song is pretty average,
but the intro to it, the opening is sick, and
that was the opening, and so I think from that
(33:32):
you made slow Ride the exit to the show. It
was actually Chris came up with that. Yeah, that was
that's day one. Wow, gosh, man, what a blast in
the past. Jesse, Chris and Corey. Don't ask these guys anything.
I just saw an exit. Genghis Khan had two thousand
people at his funeral. I knew that, nobody knew where
he was buried, and they changed the direction of the river, YadA, YadA.
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But he supposedly had two thousand people killed and then
somebody else killed the exit cutioners. What in the world.
I can't believe it. Is it true? All right? Is
it true? I'm gonna I'm gonna burst your bubble maybe
a little bit on a few things. Okay, when it
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comes to Genghis Khan and many other things, I'll get
to them in a moment. When it comes to Ganghis Khan,
his quotes, his battles, is things like that, a lot
of the details come from very shaky sources. Oh, we
know Ganghis Khan was real, and we know about the conquests,
(34:41):
and then there was enough written history back then he
was this amazing Mongolian general and that all these other
things we know. We know all those other things are true.
The huge the high points of Genghis Khan's life we
know are true. But what's the A great quote? Here's
one of one of Genghis Khan's great quotes is I
am the flail of God. If you had not created,
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if you had not committed great sins, God would never
have sent a punishment like me upon you. It's also
sometimes quoted as the scourge of God, flail of God.
They're both ways, what Chris, what Chris? I have to
say something else? Chris is begging me not to ruin it.
We don't know that he ever said that. It comes
(35:29):
from one source. That's fairly shaky. His entire background, with
his childhood where he shot his brother with arrows and
then was an outcast, and that stuff is likely true
from what we know. But we don't know no, unless
you're reading about a society where they were meticulous about
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writing everything down. The Chinese, the ancient Chinese. Granted that
scumbag Mao destroyed a lot of that history, but if
you're reading ancient Chinese history, they wrote down every free thing,
you can probably bank on that. More Roman history. The
Romans kept records of everything, mind numbing records. If it's
oral history. Remember the Mongols, they were just a nomadic
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people's in the Asian step. They weren't exactly scholars jotting
everything down. It's not that it's just we don't know
about a lot we don't know. No, the stories we
tell it is the I'll use this word for it,
it's the accepted history. There's a lot of history we
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know that may not be exactly how it happened, and
vice versa. Remember there's mountains and mountains and mountains we
know just the tip of history, just the tippy tippy
tip of it. There's an entire history realm that we
(36:58):
will never know until we get to heaven and ask
God about it. We will never know because and the
reason we only get just a tip. That's just a
tip that got written down. It's the tip of the iceberg.
You've ever seen one of those pictures. We're just the
tip is sticking out of the water and there's this
huge iceberg beneath it. That's you and me with our
knowledge of history. That's how it is. All right, we
(37:19):
have more. Let's talk about calling your senators and reps.
All that and a lot more fun coming up next hour.
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