May 29, 2025 • 38 mins
What is going on with the Democrat party? The Democrat party is down but parties don’t stay down forever. Detail people vs big picture people. Elon is leaving the government. Carol Roth walks us through what is happening with the deficit and Trump’s talk with Jerome Powell.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. Reminding
you that tomorrow is and ask doctor Jesse Friday. And
you need to get your questions emailed in right now
to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We have Carol
Roth coming up about a half hour from now. Trump
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met with Jerome Pale. Apparently they threw food at each other. No,
they didn't actually do that, but they didn't get along.
And I want to know why. All that more coming
up in this final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show.
But first I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to you about
a fear that I have and it might be unfounded
and it might not be. But first, why you ever
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heard the saying, at least when it comes to military matters,
or a saying similar to this, dead men have killed
a lot of people. You ever heard something like that before? Well,
I will tell you in combat, not to get too
gritty on you here, but in combat, if you're in
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a firefight, let's say you're clearing a house or something
like that, and you've just shot somebody. They don't advertise
this on the army recruiting brochure. But if you were
in the home and you're moving by, and you're in
a hurry, and you've got to get upstairs and you're
clearing rooms, it's very, very common to put one in
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his head on the way by. That's weird, isn't it?
Almost kind of dark? Don't mean to be dark. In
the Marine Corps, they can't necessarily teach you that, so
they try to teach us the eye thump technique, where
you go up and you basically take your finger and
you flick somebody in the eyeball. Why dead guys aren't
going to respond. Somebody who's playing dead is going to respond,
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but you get the general concept of it. They don't
want somebody sitting up behind you and shooting you in
the back. People who are down and out and even
severely injured are often at their most dangerous, and you
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have to make sure they're gone. And if you can't
make sure they're gone, or don't make sure they're gone,
they may end up hurting you badly. Right now, the
Democrat Party is an unbelievable embarrassment. They are bottoming out
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in every possible way. Pardon upun pete Pootage Edge. They
are bottoming out in every possible way, and it looks
like from the outside looking in, these people will never
achieve power. Again, listen to this guy. He's a congressman.
This is a congressman. He's on Ciena.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Kamala Harris, for whatever you say about her, did connect
with people culturally. There was the Brett Summer. There were
all these people putting up the coconut memes. I think
the problem with the party is that we didn't have
a clear economic vision for working class Americans.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Kamala Harris connected publicly because we had Brat Summer. Chris Corey,
what is Bratt Summer? I don't even know what that is?
What is that? Nobody? Chris said, nobody knows. Okay, but
I do this for a living. I don't even know
what Brett's what lost? Right, speaking of the rear Admiral,
here's Pete Buddhaje edge. Because they're out there trying to
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win back men. So of course you bring out Pete.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Of course we should be talking about how Yeah, if
you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible,
not just for gay people to get married, but for
straight people to get divorced alone first control, or how
he would want to regulate porn or whatever people most
people would have a problem with.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Headline Democrats tell party members to stop using left wing
lingo that makes them sound not normal. They're telling Democrats
to stop saying words like intersectionality. Oh, I know, just
stay with me. Here's another one. Democrats spending millions. We
talked about this before to learn how to speak to
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American men and win back the working class. And one
of the people they've hired is a morbidly obeste feminist
for this effort. I'm not making that up. The Democrats
went out and hired a morbidly obese feminist to try
to win back men. And I know what you're saying, Jesse.
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You appear to be proving everything but your point. You
appear to be proving the opposite of your point. This
party looks lost. Frankly, this party looks dead. There's infighting,
they can't drop the trans stuff. They're trying to police
their language. Rear Abro Pete appears to be the most
masculine member of the party. They look like they're gone forever.
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And that is what makes me nervous because We're not
in a situation where you can give the entire Democrat
Party an I thumped, Nor should you do that. Keep
your hands to yourself. They are not dead, they are
not gone. They are down, they are out, they are
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from the naked eye, they are mortally wounded, but they
are still alive. And so here's my fear. Before I
do a couple emails and we'll talk about Elon Musk
and all the other things and Democrat lies and things
like that, my fear is this, I am worried there
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is going to be a Democrat who rises, a Democrat
who is extremely charismatic. It will have to be a man,
because the men who men have left the Democrat Party.
There aren't any men left in it. They're gone, they
lost them, So that a woman is not going to
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be able to get men back into the parties. She's
just not. It doesn't matter who she is. I believe
there will be a man, or I'm worried there will
be a man. He will rise. He will drop all
of the cultural Marxist language, and he will speak like
you and speak like me. On the inside. He will
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be just as much as an evil, dirty Communist as
Jasmine Crockett as AOC, but he will know to cover
it up completely, to lie about who he is, and
he will be effective about lying about who he is.
I'm worried that he will get up and give speeches
about being tough on the border and things like that.
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And maybe you think, well, Jesse, that guy couldn't ever win.
Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. But you know what
people love in each party. Republicans love it and Democrats
love it. You know what they really really love winning?
They love winning. Ronald Reagan was universally despised by the
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Republican establishment right up to the point Ronald Reagan won
the presidency, and then they decided he's the bee's knees.
To this day, everybody throws a Reagan dinner. Donald Trump
same thing, Democrats, same thing. They operate the exact same way.
If this guy who speaks like a normal person, who
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talks about being tough on the border, who knows looks
acts like a man, but yet harbors all the anti
American hatred that runs through the veins of the Democrat Party,
I believe his winning. His winning will get the Democrat
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Party behind him, and he will do unimaginable damage to
this country. And I don't have a name in case
you're sitting there waiting with baited breath for me to
give you a name. I don't know. I don't know
that that person is on the political scene yet. Maybe
he's not on the political scene at all. Maybe it'll
be a private sector guy. Remember we've had people say
it's gonna be Jamie Diamond or something like that. You know,
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Morgan Stanley, I believe ceo Jamie Diamond. I don't know.
I'm not saying that name either. I don't know, but
it is. It's precisely the the wounds, the mortal looking
wounds of the Democrat Party. That is the thing that
makes me so nervous, because parties don't stay down forever.
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That's not how politics work. Political parties with money behind
them don't stay down forever. And to be honest, maybe
I'm just being cynical. The more they flop and flail
and they're throwing millions at how to win back men,
and you got Pete boodha Jegs out there talking about
how what we need is more porn and the other
guy's talking about brat summer. The more lost and listless
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they look, the more convinced I am there will be
a phoenix rising for the Democrats, because that's how politics works.
And I don't know. I'm not saying it'll be next year.
I'm not saying it's gonna be for twenty twenty eight.
I don't know how that would even be possible, but
it's gonna come. And that's a guy, whoever that guy is. Again,
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it'll be a man. No woman will be able to
do it. Whoever that guy is, that's the one we
have to watch out for. Remember, Donald Trump is still
in office, and Donald Trump is still popular, not because
of you and not because of me, because normies like him.
Normies want mass deportations. Normies they want these things, and
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that's a good thing, right. But Donald Trump, he is
popular because he appealed to the people who will go
whichever way the wind is blowing at some point, at
some point, a Democrat is going to figure out how
to get that wind blow in his way. And that's
what makes me nervous. That's all I'm saying. Let's do
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a couple emails and then I want to talk about
this lie. Maybe you heard about this. Some dude just
completely made up a school shooting what Let me talk
to you about what you can rely on. Carol Roth
is going to join us about ten minutes from now.
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on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. If he missed any part
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Spotify iTunes. Okay, now, let's just talk about this, the
GOP and the big beautiful bill and the Doge cuts
and whatnot. So Elon Musk is stepping away from politics.
Some of this is because he is forced to by law.
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You can't if you ever been if you haven't been
approved by the Senate, you can't just go work inside
the government without end in the role he was in.
There's a cap on that. So a lot of that's
that reason. But the truth is Elon Musk is frustrated
and angry. As I warned you months ago, he would
be Chris, did I not call that? Thank you very much.
Don't roll your eyes, Chris. Elon Musk, famous for buying
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companies trimming all the fat, got involved in the government,
found all kinds of fat, was like a feminist rally
in there and started trying to cut. Then the GOPS
started producing bills, bills that didn't cut squat. Elon muss
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is angry, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I was like, we're disappointed to see the massive spending vote. Frankly,
which increases the bunch deps not doesn't decrease it, and
that reminds the work that the NOS team is doing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean, like everything he's done on Dose gets wiped
out in the first year.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I think, I think a bill can be can be
can be big, or it can be beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Now a lot of people are involved in this process. Now,
Trump of course has been browbeating Congress to pass it.
Elon's upset with the corruption in it. You have some
of the more conservative members of Congress in the Senate saying, no,
I won't vote for it, it's too big. Others are
saying we have to do it now. And so there's
this big you know, Trump versus the hard right versus
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all this other thing. My my point, the only point
I want to make on this, because we've already talked
about this a lot. My point I want to make
on this is is this, there are two kinds of people.
There are big picture people and there are detail people.
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And you know what they have in common. Both of
them think the other one is ridiculous and holds them back.
Both of them do here in the studio. Me, big
picture person, I don't give a crap about details. I
don't want to know times, and I don't want to
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know what computer login program. I don't want to know
anything a rating, what your ratings, and this and this city.
But they I don't even ask for that information. I
have no interest whatsoever. I want to sit down and
do the best show for you I can every single day.
Jewish producer Chris detail person. He wants to know. He
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wants the minutia, he needs times, ratings, this, that he
wants all the friggin details. Chris rolls his eyes, rubs
his head at me that I don't give a crap
about it. Me, I rub my head and roll my
eyes at Chris that he cares at all. Both are necessary,
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Both are necessary. My marriage works the exact same way.
I'm big picture ob hates that she's detail. I hate
that both are necessary when it comes to Trump and
the Congress and Elon and these types of people. I've
told you before. I get what Trump is doing, I
get how he thinks. Trump not a detailed guy, very
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obviously not a detailed guy. Doesn't mean he's good, doesn't
mean he's bad, doesn't mean he's right, doesn't mean he's wrong,
doesn't mean he's smart, doesn't mean he's dumb. No, I
don't think he's dumb or anything like that. What it
means is he's a big picture guy. Hey, it's a
big bill. Whatever, throw my stuff in there and pass
the bill. I want the bill passed. You need that guy,
but you also need the detail guy. Well, hold on
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on top of the stuff you want in there, mister president.
There's a bunch of corruption in there. There's a bunch
of garbage in there. You can't pass that. Detailed guy
looks at Trump and he says, why aren't you helping
me cut the fat and corruption out of the bill?
What's your problem? Trump looks at detailed guy and says,
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why are you holding back my bill? I need my
bill passed. I need my trillion for the military. I've
both sides. This is almost It always works this way.
Both sides will clash, and both sides are necessary. If
there are couples husband and wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, couples listening
to me, you're laughing right now, because one of you
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is the detailed person and one of you is the
big person, big picture person, and you fight about it,
don't you. Of course you do. That's life, Chris, You
and your wife different. God, Chris, to see the look
on his face. Has he nodded? Yes, Yes, they are.
That's how it works. Both things are at play here. Now.
As far as the GOP goes, there's a lot of
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talk that the GOP Congress they're gonna all of a
sudden start taking these GoGet doge cuts in there. They're
gonna put him in a separate bill. They have to
beat a separate bill. We'll put him in a separate bill.
We'll make it law. Why have they discovered a love
of country they didn't have before. No, they have a
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love of money they've always had. Elon Musk was writing
big GOP checks. The checks stop coming now that Elon
Musk is frustrated with the GOP. This is a lesson
in leverage, enforce, get it and use it. Elon Musk
is using it well. I applaud the guy for it.
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All Right, we are going to have a little talk
with Carol Roth. Speaking of money issues. We'll talk with
Carol in a moment. Then we're going to do one
final segment and I'll try to get to everything. Some
things I may even have to kick for tomorrow. I
still have to talk about when you show up at
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to put on my nerd hat. Chris always wears his,
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but I have to put mine from on from time
to time because I don't understand this whole deal about
inchestrates and Donald Trump meeting with your own pale and
everything else. But I bet Carole knows. Joining me now,
my friend Carol Roth. You obviously know Carol writes all
these wonderful books, including You Will Own Nothing, which is
looking more and more prophetic by the day. Okay, Carol,
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why is Donald Trump meeting with Jerome pal at all?
And why are they arguing?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, you know, it used to be that presidents and
the head of the FED didn't meet at all. In fact,
I'm old enough that the Fed didn't even matter. But
in recent times it used to be that, you know,
they wanted to really keep the FED as maintaining this
sense of independence, which is hilarious because we know that
there are political beings, but you know, in recent years
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that's kind of ramped up. They met Powell and Biden
met once. He met with Trump twice during his first term,
so it's not like entirely unusual, but I think that,
you know, it's almost a little bit out of a
mafia movie that Mafia done. Wanted to have a little
discussion with Powell about interest rates. The challenge is is
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that we are in a period of something called fiscal dominance,
where fiscal policy is overtaking monetary policy, the stuff that
the FEDS in charge of, and basically whatever Powell does
kind of doesn't matter because as they went back and
started cutting interest rates, we saw long term yields actually
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go up. So you know, Donald Trump may not be
happy with Powell, but at the end of the day,
he should be looking inward to fiscal policy.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Okay, now pause on all this stuff, Carol, because that
went right over my head. And that's difficult to do
because I'm six foot eight. To explain the difference in
fiscal policy versus monetary policy, and why one is now
dominating the other. The floor is yours.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Yeah. So the fiscal policy is the policy that's controlled
by the government, things like you know, tax collection and spend.
And obviously that has put us in a bit of
a buying because you know, we've got something like thirty
seven trillion dollars in debts. We have deficits that are
at you as a percentage of GDP at a wartime level,
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but we don't have a war or recession ongoing. And
you know, the interest that we're paying to service that
debt is higher than the amount that we're spending on
the defense of our country. So that is is fiscal policy,
and you know, it does what it does in terms
of the economy. Monetary policy is supposed to come in
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and that's what the Fed does in terms of setting
interest rates and sometimes playing around and some of the markets,
the bond markets and the like, and that's supposed to
basically stabilize prices, which they've done a really fantastic job
as we know over the last four years. And it's
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supposed to you know, help with things like unemployment. Basically
the tools that they have are just completely ineffectual because
of this crazy fiscal situation that was passed on to
us by the Biden administration, and so anything that we're doing,
you know, it's sort of really lying on the fiscal side.
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So if you think about what's happened, we have these
big deficits and those need to be financed in the
bond markets. They need to go and they need to
find debt in order to pay for those. But because
there's so much of that and frankly not a lot
of an appetite for people to lend money to the
US government, go figure that. You know, basically that has
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driven up the yields and the cost of the financing
of the debt. But because we have so much, that
increases our interest expense, and when our interest expense goes up,
you know, it happens, well, that increases the deficits. And
what did I just tell you? The deficit means that
we need to finance more, which all things being equal,
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will make it more expensive. And when making it more
expensive expensive increases the interest rates and we end up
in this vicious cycle until something breaks. And so really
the at the end of the day, where we are now,
that is dominating anything that the Fed could possibly do,
particularly for long term interest rates. Because the Fed directly
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controls or or has more direct control over the short
term rates, the long term rates are really set in
the market. And so you know, Donald Trump should be
yelling at Congress more than j Powell.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, so I got I'm asking you to speak for
someone else. Again, we're speaking with Carol Roth. As you
probably figured out by now, I'm asking you to speak
for someone else. So I realize I'm asking the impossible.
But why doesn't Donald Trump do that? I understand he
wants interest rates low. I get that. I get him
browbeating Jerome pal to lower those rates. But Donald Trump
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is by no means a moron. He has to know
what you just said is true, what's going on? What's
the game I'm missing?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
You know it's a question mark. He definitely his administration
has a tight rope to walk because at the same
time that we need to cut down on our spending
and reduce the deficits, we also came off of a
situation where those deficits were propping up the growth of
the country, So we have to enhance growth faster than
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we cut spending. So we also don't increase the deficits.
So it's a very difficult path, and I think that
his team believes they have the right choreography in order
to do this, and so perhaps they're just looking for
escapegoat to buy them time in case, you know, things
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don't go according to plan or it's a little rocky
along that path. But it's a really tough path to climb.
So you know, I don't know that they're necessarily doing
the choreography and the rights order, but that I think
is what they're navigating. And I will, as I said,
I'll be really explicit that this is a difficult thing
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to do, and so maybe maybe it's just scapegoating.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Carol. There's difficult and then there's impossible, right, I mean,
me getting a six pack is difficult, but probably not impossible.
Me making the NFL is impossible. Is it possible to
navigate our way out of this? Can it be done
by anybody?
Speaker 5 (26:39):
It can't? It can And frankly, there are a lot
of really crazy tools and tricks that the Treasury, frankly
could use, and you know, some of the other folks
that are associated, even the FED, if they could get
on board, could could do to buy us time and
to let us right the ship. They're two problems with
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any crazy idea you could come up with, And these
are things like, you know, we could write up the
value of gold on our balance sheet, or you know,
Fanny and Freddie May or Fanny May and Freddie Mack,
could you know, let you tap the equity of your
house to buy treasuries. I mean, there are all kinds
of weird things I could come up with and that
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have been floated out there. The two problems is that
pretty much whatever it is they're going to do is
going to be inflationary, and we know how people feel
about that, but I don't think that's going to be
a choice. But the bigger issue is all it does,
Jesse is bias time, and if Congress doesn't get on
board both short term and then rained in long term,
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it's not going to matter because we're just going to
end up back in the situation. And that's really the
crux of all of this is we can buy time,
we can navigate, we can you do the hard work,
we can endure the pain of ANA, but there needs
to be something on the other side, and Congress has
not shown us. Even right now when we have a
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GOP control of the Congress and a mandate, clear mandate
of what the American people want, that they have any
conviction to do the things that they need to do.
And so there somewhere between the is it possible you know?
Or is it impossible?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (28:28):
You tell me, is it is it possible to get
Congress to do what it is that they constitutionally should
be should do. I don't know if that's possible or impossible.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
No, so misery for the sake of misery. It's completely pointless.
It's like being a vegetarian. She is Carol Roth, Carol,
thank you so much for giving us some more wisdom tonight.
Much appreciated. And by the way, I do think it's impossible,
But either way, that's just cynical. Jesse. All right, we
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ZipRecruiter dot com slash jesse. Now a couple stories that
made me laugh. I'm sorry. The first one is the
headline from NBC News is New York City high school
student detained by Ice after a scheduled court appearance. Okay,
(32:45):
but then there's the first head the first sentence from
the article that says a twenty year old from Venezuela
became the first reported New York City public school student
to be detained. I love I love how the the
headline it's a high school student and then you dig
in and wait, he's twenty? Did the baseball team need
(33:06):
a new picture? You've gotta be kidding me with this. Gosh,
the media sucks and the other thing. Before I get
to maybe an email or two in the headlines, uproar
as United Airlines announces a new restriction on check in rules. Now,
far be it from me to check to defend United
airlines ever for any reason. But they used to have
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domestic check in rules that were thirty minutes out. If
you don't check in thirty minutes prior to the flight,
you don't get to get on the plane. Now they're
saying forty five minutes. Okay. People were mad. Okay, listen,
you get to the airport an hour before your flight,
not two hours, not fifteen minutes. It's you people, and
(33:55):
this is me. It's not like I try to play
it safe right. If it was up to AB, we'd
be at the airport five hours early. I don't do that.
I play it, I play it right. It's you people
who show up fifteen minutes before who screw it up
for everybody. You're the reason, you know, the person, the
person running through security, the person when you're in the
(34:17):
security line saying I'm sorry, can I get by? I'm
about to miss my flat. Fact, you're the reason. What
Chris what? No, Chris said. Most of the time, those
are connections that are too close together. No, I'm not
talking about connections that's totally out of your hands. I'm
talking about when you get to the airport initially, when
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you're going through security, if you are ever in a
rush going through security, if you don't have time to
wait in line, it's your fault. It's your fault. And
this is where people will pipe in and they'll say, no,
it's not my fault. You don't understand a flat I
had a flat tire. I had a wreck. Really I
(35:00):
plan for a flat tire. You don't. I check the
traffic right before I leave, so I don't run into traffic.
You don't prior proper planning prevents BEEP poor performance. As
we were taught several times in the Marine Corps. What
Chris Chris said, how early an hour? An hour's plenty.
(35:21):
I get to the airport an hour early, no matter
what domestic internet, you get to the airport three hour.
Why what you get there three hours early? What are
you doing? You're planning for traffic in a flat tire, Chris.
Three hours early is not planning for traffic in a
flat tire. Three hours early is planning for the apocalypse,
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in a hurricane, during an earthquake. That's ridiculous, overkill, I
get and you, of all people, you spend three hours
in the airport before your flight with those airport prices.
What what you can read you can eat and you're
never in a rush. Well, I would hope, so, buddy,
the airport should start charging you because you live there
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apparently three hours before the flight. Gosh, that's ridiculous. El
capitan de manos pecanos. I don't even know what that means,
but it's true. I've heard you rant on it before.
But the stuff crust pizza always suck. It never lives
up to what I want it to be. Why is that?
Why can nobody get it right? Says his name is Chris, Well, apparently,
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asked doctor Jesse Friday is starting a little bit early.
Here's the problem with stuff crust pizza, and it's why
we all order it once a year. Everybody does, and
we're disappointed in it every time. Don't worry, You're not alone.
Everybody is. You know why. It looks good, But the
problem is you cannot cook the kind of cheese that
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goes on top of the pizza the same temperature and
time that you cook the cheese inside of the crust
on the pizza, because the bread is providing I think
I've discovered this, Chris. This is my own theory. The
bread is providing a layer of insulation to the crust
cheese that the on top of the pizza cheese doesn't
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have to deal with. The on top of the pizza
cheese is exposed to all the heat. The bread stuff
has essentially a bulletproof vest. So you get a stuff
crust pizza. It might, I stress, This might be good
for the first minute or so, then garbage. You can't
eat it anymore. What, Chris, that's a very good point,
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Chris said, We've had forty years to fix this problem.
Why can't we Well, here's my solution. This is where
everybody's getting this wrong. In fact, you big pizza chains,
especially premier ones like Little Caesars, listen to me. This
is what you need to do. You can have a
stuffed crust pizza that is good. You need to draw
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any attempt at putting regular cheese in there and move
to the liquid kso the liquid cheese option. Chris. Oh,
you should see the look on his face. That's the
look Chris gets when he knows I nailed it. I
nailed it, didn't I he knows I did.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I thought about this. I told you I was up
last night thinking I had a lot of heavy thoughts.
This heavy thought is we ran out of time before headlines.
I'm sorry, but we might do so tomorrow. Maybe not
SaaS doctor Jesse Friday, I made no promises. You get
what you get. Don't throw a fit, that's all
This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. Reminding
you that tomorrow is and ask doctor Jesse Friday. And
you need to get your questions emailed in right now
to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We have Carol
Roth coming up about a half hour from now. Trump
(00:33):
met with Jerome Pale. Apparently they threw food at each other. No,
they didn't actually do that, but they didn't get along.
And I want to know why. All that more coming
up in this final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show.
But first I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to you about
a fear that I have and it might be unfounded
and it might not be. But first, why you ever
(01:00):
heard the saying, at least when it comes to military matters,
or a saying similar to this, dead men have killed
a lot of people. You ever heard something like that before? Well,
I will tell you in combat, not to get too
gritty on you here, but in combat, if you're in
(01:20):
a firefight, let's say you're clearing a house or something
like that, and you've just shot somebody. They don't advertise
this on the army recruiting brochure. But if you were
in the home and you're moving by, and you're in
a hurry, and you've got to get upstairs and you're
clearing rooms, it's very, very common to put one in
(01:43):
his head on the way by. That's weird, isn't it?
Almost kind of dark? Don't mean to be dark. In
the Marine Corps, they can't necessarily teach you that, so
they try to teach us the eye thump technique, where
you go up and you basically take your finger and
you flick somebody in the eyeball. Why dead guys aren't
going to respond. Somebody who's playing dead is going to respond,
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but you get the general concept of it. They don't
want somebody sitting up behind you and shooting you in
the back. People who are down and out and even
severely injured are often at their most dangerous, and you
(02:27):
have to make sure they're gone. And if you can't
make sure they're gone, or don't make sure they're gone,
they may end up hurting you badly. Right now, the
Democrat Party is an unbelievable embarrassment. They are bottoming out
(02:47):
in every possible way. Pardon upun pete Pootage Edge. They
are bottoming out in every possible way, and it looks
like from the outside looking in, these people will never
achieve power. Again, listen to this guy. He's a congressman.
This is a congressman. He's on Ciena.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Kamala Harris, for whatever you say about her, did connect
with people culturally. There was the Brett Summer. There were
all these people putting up the coconut memes. I think
the problem with the party is that we didn't have
a clear economic vision for working class Americans.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Kamala Harris connected publicly because we had Brat Summer. Chris Corey,
what is Bratt Summer? I don't even know what that is?
What is that? Nobody? Chris said, nobody knows. Okay, but
I do this for a living. I don't even know
what Brett's what lost? Right, speaking of the rear Admiral,
here's Pete Buddhaje edge. Because they're out there trying to
(03:47):
win back men. So of course you bring out Pete.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Of course we should be talking about how Yeah, if
you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible,
not just for gay people to get married, but for
straight people to get divorced alone first control, or how
he would want to regulate porn or whatever people most
people would have a problem with.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Headline Democrats tell party members to stop using left wing
lingo that makes them sound not normal. They're telling Democrats
to stop saying words like intersectionality. Oh, I know, just
stay with me. Here's another one. Democrats spending millions. We
talked about this before to learn how to speak to
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American men and win back the working class. And one
of the people they've hired is a morbidly obeste feminist
for this effort. I'm not making that up. The Democrats
went out and hired a morbidly obese feminist to try
to win back men. And I know what you're saying, Jesse.
(04:48):
You appear to be proving everything but your point. You
appear to be proving the opposite of your point. This
party looks lost. Frankly, this party looks dead. There's infighting,
they can't drop the trans stuff. They're trying to police
their language. Rear Abro Pete appears to be the most
masculine member of the party. They look like they're gone forever.
(05:12):
And that is what makes me nervous because We're not
in a situation where you can give the entire Democrat
Party an I thumped, Nor should you do that. Keep
your hands to yourself. They are not dead, they are
not gone. They are down, they are out, they are
(05:34):
from the naked eye, they are mortally wounded, but they
are still alive. And so here's my fear. Before I
do a couple emails and we'll talk about Elon Musk
and all the other things and Democrat lies and things
like that, my fear is this, I am worried there
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is going to be a Democrat who rises, a Democrat
who is extremely charismatic. It will have to be a man,
because the men who men have left the Democrat Party.
There aren't any men left in it. They're gone, they
lost them, So that a woman is not going to
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be able to get men back into the parties. She's
just not. It doesn't matter who she is. I believe
there will be a man, or I'm worried there will
be a man. He will rise. He will drop all
of the cultural Marxist language, and he will speak like
you and speak like me. On the inside. He will
(06:43):
be just as much as an evil, dirty Communist as
Jasmine Crockett as AOC, but he will know to cover
it up completely, to lie about who he is, and
he will be effective about lying about who he is.
I'm worried that he will get up and give speeches
about being tough on the border and things like that.
(07:06):
And maybe you think, well, Jesse, that guy couldn't ever win.
Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. But you know what
people love in each party. Republicans love it and Democrats
love it. You know what they really really love winning?
They love winning. Ronald Reagan was universally despised by the
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Republican establishment right up to the point Ronald Reagan won
the presidency, and then they decided he's the bee's knees.
To this day, everybody throws a Reagan dinner. Donald Trump
same thing, Democrats, same thing. They operate the exact same way.
If this guy who speaks like a normal person, who
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talks about being tough on the border, who knows looks
acts like a man, but yet harbors all the anti
American hatred that runs through the veins of the Democrat Party,
I believe his winning. His winning will get the Democrat
(08:08):
Party behind him, and he will do unimaginable damage to
this country. And I don't have a name in case
you're sitting there waiting with baited breath for me to
give you a name. I don't know. I don't know
that that person is on the political scene yet. Maybe
he's not on the political scene at all. Maybe it'll
be a private sector guy. Remember we've had people say
it's gonna be Jamie Diamond or something like that. You know,
(08:30):
Morgan Stanley, I believe ceo Jamie Diamond. I don't know.
I'm not saying that name either. I don't know, but
it is. It's precisely the the wounds, the mortal looking
wounds of the Democrat Party. That is the thing that
makes me so nervous, because parties don't stay down forever.
(08:54):
That's not how politics work. Political parties with money behind
them don't stay down forever. And to be honest, maybe
I'm just being cynical. The more they flop and flail
and they're throwing millions at how to win back men,
and you got Pete boodha Jegs out there talking about
how what we need is more porn and the other
guy's talking about brat summer. The more lost and listless
(09:19):
they look, the more convinced I am there will be
a phoenix rising for the Democrats, because that's how politics works.
And I don't know. I'm not saying it'll be next year.
I'm not saying it's gonna be for twenty twenty eight.
I don't know how that would even be possible, but
it's gonna come. And that's a guy, whoever that guy is. Again,
(09:42):
it'll be a man. No woman will be able to
do it. Whoever that guy is, that's the one we
have to watch out for. Remember, Donald Trump is still
in office, and Donald Trump is still popular, not because
of you and not because of me, because normies like him.
Normies want mass deportations. Normies they want these things, and
(10:06):
that's a good thing, right. But Donald Trump, he is
popular because he appealed to the people who will go
whichever way the wind is blowing at some point, at
some point, a Democrat is going to figure out how
to get that wind blow in his way. And that's
what makes me nervous. That's all I'm saying. Let's do
(10:29):
a couple emails and then I want to talk about
this lie. Maybe you heard about this. Some dude just
completely made up a school shooting what Let me talk
to you about what you can rely on. Carol Roth
is going to join us about ten minutes from now.
I bet you money as we talk about interest rates
(10:51):
in the unbelievably dangerous path we're on economically, bet you money.
Just call it a prediction. Obviously, I don't know yet.
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on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. If he missed any part
of the show, you can download the whole thing on iHeart,
Spotify iTunes. Okay, now, let's just talk about this, the
GOP and the big beautiful bill and the Doge cuts
and whatnot. So Elon Musk is stepping away from politics.
Some of this is because he is forced to by law.
(12:28):
You can't if you ever been if you haven't been
approved by the Senate, you can't just go work inside
the government without end in the role he was in.
There's a cap on that. So a lot of that's
that reason. But the truth is Elon Musk is frustrated
and angry. As I warned you months ago, he would
be Chris, did I not call that? Thank you very much.
Don't roll your eyes, Chris. Elon Musk, famous for buying
(12:53):
companies trimming all the fat, got involved in the government,
found all kinds of fat, was like a feminist rally
in there and started trying to cut. Then the GOPS
started producing bills, bills that didn't cut squat. Elon muss
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is angry, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I was like, we're disappointed to see the massive spending vote. Frankly,
which increases the bunch deps not doesn't decrease it, and
that reminds the work that the NOS team is doing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean, like everything he's done on Dose gets wiped
out in the first year.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I think, I think a bill can be can be
can be big, or it can be beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Now a lot of people are involved in this process. Now,
Trump of course has been browbeating Congress to pass it.
Elon's upset with the corruption in it. You have some
of the more conservative members of Congress in the Senate saying, no,
I won't vote for it, it's too big. Others are
saying we have to do it now. And so there's
this big you know, Trump versus the hard right versus
(14:02):
all this other thing. My my point, the only point
I want to make on this, because we've already talked
about this a lot. My point I want to make
on this is is this, there are two kinds of people.
There are big picture people and there are detail people.
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And you know what they have in common. Both of
them think the other one is ridiculous and holds them back.
Both of them do here in the studio. Me, big
picture person, I don't give a crap about details. I
don't want to know times, and I don't want to
(14:43):
know what computer login program. I don't want to know
anything a rating, what your ratings, and this and this city.
But they I don't even ask for that information. I
have no interest whatsoever. I want to sit down and
do the best show for you I can every single day.
Jewish producer Chris detail person. He wants to know. He
(15:03):
wants the minutia, he needs times, ratings, this, that he
wants all the friggin details. Chris rolls his eyes, rubs
his head at me that I don't give a crap
about it. Me, I rub my head and roll my
eyes at Chris that he cares at all. Both are necessary,
(15:25):
Both are necessary. My marriage works the exact same way.
I'm big picture ob hates that she's detail. I hate
that both are necessary when it comes to Trump and
the Congress and Elon and these types of people. I've
told you before. I get what Trump is doing, I
get how he thinks. Trump not a detailed guy, very
(15:49):
obviously not a detailed guy. Doesn't mean he's good, doesn't
mean he's bad, doesn't mean he's right, doesn't mean he's wrong,
doesn't mean he's smart, doesn't mean he's dumb. No, I
don't think he's dumb or anything like that. What it
means is he's a big picture guy. Hey, it's a
big bill. Whatever, throw my stuff in there and pass
the bill. I want the bill passed. You need that guy,
but you also need the detail guy. Well, hold on
(16:12):
on top of the stuff you want in there, mister president.
There's a bunch of corruption in there. There's a bunch
of garbage in there. You can't pass that. Detailed guy
looks at Trump and he says, why aren't you helping
me cut the fat and corruption out of the bill?
What's your problem? Trump looks at detailed guy and says,
(16:33):
why are you holding back my bill? I need my
bill passed. I need my trillion for the military. I've
both sides. This is almost It always works this way.
Both sides will clash, and both sides are necessary. If
there are couples husband and wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, couples listening
to me, you're laughing right now, because one of you
(16:54):
is the detailed person and one of you is the
big person, big picture person, and you fight about it,
don't you. Of course you do. That's life, Chris, You
and your wife different. God, Chris, to see the look
on his face. Has he nodded? Yes, Yes, they are.
That's how it works. Both things are at play here. Now.
As far as the GOP goes, there's a lot of
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talk that the GOP Congress they're gonna all of a
sudden start taking these GoGet doge cuts in there. They're
gonna put him in a separate bill. They have to
beat a separate bill. We'll put him in a separate bill.
We'll make it law. Why have they discovered a love
of country they didn't have before. No, they have a
(17:37):
love of money they've always had. Elon Musk was writing
big GOP checks. The checks stop coming now that Elon
Musk is frustrated with the GOP. This is a lesson
in leverage, enforce, get it and use it. Elon Musk
is using it well. I applaud the guy for it.
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All Right, we are going to have a little talk
with Carol Roth. Speaking of money issues. We'll talk with
Carol in a moment. Then we're going to do one
final segment and I'll try to get to everything. Some
things I may even have to kick for tomorrow. I
still have to talk about when you show up at
the Freakin Airport. First, I have to talk to you
about pure talk speaking of money. I doubt, I doubt
(18:23):
you're about to hear that many flowery things about our
economic future. So now it's a good time to be
saving some money. Switching to Puretalk's the easiest way to
do that. But maybe saving money is not something you're
hot on. I get that. You know what the date is, right,
it's May twenty ninth, you know June is coming, you
(18:46):
know Proude month is coming. If you have a rise
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been thinking about this pure talk thing, Ah, you don't
want to go through the hassle. You don't want to.
Maybe you've talked yourself out of it a million times.
Totally fine. I want you to pay attention during Pride
Month to what your mobile company does and tell me
(19:08):
if you're happy that you're funding that, because that's your
money paying for the rainbow ads. I don't have to
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Switch to pure Talk. Do it now before June. Then
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(19:32):
Kelly pound two five zero, Say Jesse Kelly, We'll be back. True,
it's the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly
Show on a Thursday, and it is time for me
to put on my nerd hat. Chris always wears his,
(19:52):
but I have to put mine from on from time
to time because I don't understand this whole deal about
inchestrates and Donald Trump meeting with your own pale and
everything else. But I bet Carole knows. Joining me now,
my friend Carol Roth. You obviously know Carol writes all
these wonderful books, including You Will Own Nothing, which is
looking more and more prophetic by the day. Okay, Carol,
(20:14):
why is Donald Trump meeting with Jerome pal at all?
And why are they arguing?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, you know, it used to be that presidents and
the head of the FED didn't meet at all. In fact,
I'm old enough that the Fed didn't even matter. But
in recent times it used to be that, you know,
they wanted to really keep the FED as maintaining this
sense of independence, which is hilarious because we know that
there are political beings, but you know, in recent years
(20:40):
that's kind of ramped up. They met Powell and Biden
met once. He met with Trump twice during his first term,
so it's not like entirely unusual, but I think that,
you know, it's almost a little bit out of a
mafia movie that Mafia done. Wanted to have a little
discussion with Powell about interest rates. The challenge is is
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that we are in a period of something called fiscal dominance,
where fiscal policy is overtaking monetary policy, the stuff that
the FEDS in charge of, and basically whatever Powell does
kind of doesn't matter because as they went back and
started cutting interest rates, we saw long term yields actually
(21:25):
go up. So you know, Donald Trump may not be
happy with Powell, but at the end of the day,
he should be looking inward to fiscal policy.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Okay, now pause on all this stuff, Carol, because that
went right over my head. And that's difficult to do
because I'm six foot eight. To explain the difference in
fiscal policy versus monetary policy, and why one is now
dominating the other. The floor is yours.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Yeah. So the fiscal policy is the policy that's controlled
by the government, things like you know, tax collection and spend.
And obviously that has put us in a bit of
a buying because you know, we've got something like thirty
seven trillion dollars in debts. We have deficits that are
at you as a percentage of GDP at a wartime level,
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but we don't have a war or recession ongoing. And
you know, the interest that we're paying to service that
debt is higher than the amount that we're spending on
the defense of our country. So that is is fiscal policy,
and you know, it does what it does in terms
of the economy. Monetary policy is supposed to come in
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and that's what the Fed does in terms of setting
interest rates and sometimes playing around and some of the markets,
the bond markets and the like, and that's supposed to
basically stabilize prices, which they've done a really fantastic job
as we know over the last four years. And it's
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supposed to you know, help with things like unemployment. Basically
the tools that they have are just completely ineffectual because
of this crazy fiscal situation that was passed on to
us by the Biden administration, and so anything that we're doing,
you know, it's sort of really lying on the fiscal side.
(23:19):
So if you think about what's happened, we have these
big deficits and those need to be financed in the
bond markets. They need to go and they need to
find debt in order to pay for those. But because
there's so much of that and frankly not a lot
of an appetite for people to lend money to the
US government, go figure that. You know, basically that has
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driven up the yields and the cost of the financing
of the debt. But because we have so much, that
increases our interest expense, and when our interest expense goes up,
you know, it happens, well, that increases the deficits. And
what did I just tell you? The deficit means that
we need to finance more, which all things being equal,
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will make it more expensive. And when making it more
expensive expensive increases the interest rates and we end up
in this vicious cycle until something breaks. And so really
the at the end of the day, where we are now,
that is dominating anything that the Fed could possibly do,
particularly for long term interest rates. Because the Fed directly
(24:26):
controls or or has more direct control over the short
term rates, the long term rates are really set in
the market. And so you know, Donald Trump should be
yelling at Congress more than j Powell.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, so I got I'm asking you to speak for
someone else. Again, we're speaking with Carol Roth. As you
probably figured out by now, I'm asking you to speak
for someone else. So I realize I'm asking the impossible.
But why doesn't Donald Trump do that? I understand he
wants interest rates low. I get that. I get him
browbeating Jerome pal to lower those rates. But Donald Trump
(24:59):
is by no means a moron. He has to know
what you just said is true, what's going on? What's
the game I'm missing?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
You know it's a question mark. He definitely his administration
has a tight rope to walk because at the same
time that we need to cut down on our spending
and reduce the deficits, we also came off of a
situation where those deficits were propping up the growth of
the country, So we have to enhance growth faster than
(25:32):
we cut spending. So we also don't increase the deficits.
So it's a very difficult path, and I think that
his team believes they have the right choreography in order
to do this, and so perhaps they're just looking for
escapegoat to buy them time in case, you know, things
(25:53):
don't go according to plan or it's a little rocky
along that path. But it's a really tough path to climb.
So you know, I don't know that they're necessarily doing
the choreography and the rights order, but that I think
is what they're navigating. And I will, as I said,
I'll be really explicit that this is a difficult thing
(26:15):
to do, and so maybe maybe it's just scapegoating.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Carol. There's difficult and then there's impossible, right, I mean,
me getting a six pack is difficult, but probably not impossible.
Me making the NFL is impossible. Is it possible to
navigate our way out of this? Can it be done
by anybody?
Speaker 5 (26:39):
It can't? It can And frankly, there are a lot
of really crazy tools and tricks that the Treasury, frankly
could use, and you know, some of the other folks
that are associated, even the FED, if they could get
on board, could could do to buy us time and
to let us right the ship. They're two problems with
(27:01):
any crazy idea you could come up with, And these
are things like, you know, we could write up the
value of gold on our balance sheet, or you know,
Fanny and Freddie May or Fanny May and Freddie Mack,
could you know, let you tap the equity of your
house to buy treasuries. I mean, there are all kinds
of weird things I could come up with and that
(27:22):
have been floated out there. The two problems is that
pretty much whatever it is they're going to do is
going to be inflationary, and we know how people feel
about that, but I don't think that's going to be
a choice. But the bigger issue is all it does,
Jesse is bias time, and if Congress doesn't get on
board both short term and then rained in long term,
(27:46):
it's not going to matter because we're just going to
end up back in the situation. And that's really the
crux of all of this is we can buy time,
we can navigate, we can you do the hard work,
we can endure the pain of ANA, but there needs
to be something on the other side, and Congress has
not shown us. Even right now when we have a
(28:09):
GOP control of the Congress and a mandate, clear mandate
of what the American people want, that they have any
conviction to do the things that they need to do.
And so there somewhere between the is it possible you know?
Or is it impossible?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (28:28):
You tell me, is it is it possible to get
Congress to do what it is that they constitutionally should
be should do. I don't know if that's possible or impossible.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
No, so misery for the sake of misery. It's completely pointless.
It's like being a vegetarian. She is Carol Roth, Carol,
thank you so much for giving us some more wisdom tonight.
Much appreciated. And by the way, I do think it's impossible,
But either way, that's just cynical. Jesse. All right, we
only have one more segment left. I want to talk
(28:58):
to you about something that is possible. Perfect meat. Perfect
meat is not a dream, it's a possibility. What makes
a great steak versus a bad one? A great chicken? Well,
let's talk chicken for a moment. What is it? It's
the temperature. When do you pull it off the grill?
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do you pull it off the smoker too long, it's
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(30:28):
Jesse Kelly. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Final segment
of The Jesse Kelly Show before we check out a
here until tomorrow, and of course tomorrow's ask Doctor Jesse Friday,
Ask me anything. All three hours. Jesse at jessekellyshow dot
com is where you email in your questions. They're already
(30:51):
stacking up and they're already good. It's going to be
a great day tomorrow. And another reminder that our Memorial
Day show from Monday is available. I mean, all of
our podcasts are available, but it's like the rest of them,
it's free. And if you are into honoring the fallen,
some battle history, war history, honoring some heroes by name.
(31:13):
There's not even any ads in it. You have to
download it. iHeart Spotify, iTunes. Wait a minute, there might
be ads in the podcast version, Chris and the ads
and that Chris said he thinks there are some. Okay,
I'm a big fat liar. Whatever, go download it anyway,
and remember don't focus don't focus on just the ads
(31:36):
when you listen to it. But if you are looking
for a new employee, focus on zip recruiter. That's what matters.
What Chris, that's the most important thing right now. If
you if your company, if you need somebody, maybe you
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(32:23):
ZipRecruiter dot com slash jesse. Now a couple stories that
made me laugh. I'm sorry. The first one is the
headline from NBC News is New York City high school
student detained by Ice after a scheduled court appearance. Okay,
(32:45):
but then there's the first head the first sentence from
the article that says a twenty year old from Venezuela
became the first reported New York City public school student
to be detained. I love I love how the the
headline it's a high school student and then you dig
in and wait, he's twenty? Did the baseball team need
(33:06):
a new picture? You've gotta be kidding me with this. Gosh,
the media sucks and the other thing. Before I get
to maybe an email or two in the headlines, uproar
as United Airlines announces a new restriction on check in rules. Now,
far be it from me to check to defend United
airlines ever for any reason. But they used to have
(33:29):
domestic check in rules that were thirty minutes out. If
you don't check in thirty minutes prior to the flight,
you don't get to get on the plane. Now they're
saying forty five minutes. Okay. People were mad. Okay, listen,
you get to the airport an hour before your flight,
not two hours, not fifteen minutes. It's you people, and
(33:55):
this is me. It's not like I try to play
it safe right. If it was up to AB, we'd
be at the airport five hours early. I don't do that.
I play it, I play it right. It's you people
who show up fifteen minutes before who screw it up
for everybody. You're the reason, you know, the person, the
person running through security, the person when you're in the
(34:17):
security line saying I'm sorry, can I get by? I'm
about to miss my flat. Fact, you're the reason. What
Chris what? No, Chris said. Most of the time, those
are connections that are too close together. No, I'm not
talking about connections that's totally out of your hands. I'm
talking about when you get to the airport initially, when
(34:37):
you're going through security, if you are ever in a
rush going through security, if you don't have time to
wait in line, it's your fault. It's your fault. And
this is where people will pipe in and they'll say, no,
it's not my fault. You don't understand a flat I
had a flat tire. I had a wreck. Really I
(35:00):
plan for a flat tire. You don't. I check the
traffic right before I leave, so I don't run into traffic.
You don't prior proper planning prevents BEEP poor performance. As
we were taught several times in the Marine Corps. What
Chris Chris said, how early an hour? An hour's plenty.
(35:21):
I get to the airport an hour early, no matter
what domestic internet, you get to the airport three hour.
Why what you get there three hours early? What are
you doing? You're planning for traffic in a flat tire, Chris.
Three hours early is not planning for traffic in a
flat tire. Three hours early is planning for the apocalypse,
(35:41):
in a hurricane, during an earthquake. That's ridiculous, overkill, I
get and you, of all people, you spend three hours
in the airport before your flight with those airport prices.
What what you can read you can eat and you're
never in a rush. Well, I would hope, so, buddy,
the airport should start charging you because you live there
(36:04):
apparently three hours before the flight. Gosh, that's ridiculous. El
capitan de manos pecanos. I don't even know what that means,
but it's true. I've heard you rant on it before.
But the stuff crust pizza always suck. It never lives
up to what I want it to be. Why is that?
Why can nobody get it right? Says his name is Chris, Well, apparently,
(36:25):
asked doctor Jesse Friday is starting a little bit early.
Here's the problem with stuff crust pizza, and it's why
we all order it once a year. Everybody does, and
we're disappointed in it every time. Don't worry, You're not alone.
Everybody is. You know why. It looks good, But the
problem is you cannot cook the kind of cheese that
(36:50):
goes on top of the pizza the same temperature and
time that you cook the cheese inside of the crust
on the pizza, because the bread is providing I think
I've discovered this, Chris. This is my own theory. The
bread is providing a layer of insulation to the crust
cheese that the on top of the pizza cheese doesn't
(37:14):
have to deal with. The on top of the pizza
cheese is exposed to all the heat. The bread stuff
has essentially a bulletproof vest. So you get a stuff
crust pizza. It might, I stress, This might be good
for the first minute or so, then garbage. You can't
eat it anymore. What, Chris, that's a very good point,
(37:38):
Chris said, We've had forty years to fix this problem.
Why can't we Well, here's my solution. This is where
everybody's getting this wrong. In fact, you big pizza chains,
especially premier ones like Little Caesars, listen to me. This
is what you need to do. You can have a
stuffed crust pizza that is good. You need to draw
(38:01):
any attempt at putting regular cheese in there and move
to the liquid kso the liquid cheese option. Chris. Oh,
you should see the look on his face. That's the
look Chris gets when he knows I nailed it. I
nailed it, didn't I he knows I did.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I thought about this. I told you I was up
last night thinking I had a lot of heavy thoughts.
This heavy thought is we ran out of time before headlines.
I'm sorry, but we might do so tomorrow. Maybe not
SaaS doctor Jesse Friday, I made no promises. You get
what you get. Don't throw a fit, that's all
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