December 17, 2025 • 36 mins
The end of Rhodesia. First hand accounts from Buddy Lilley
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour, final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show.
I don't want to waste a single second teasing anything
else that's coming, because I don't care about anything else
it's coming. I'm talking to Buddy Lily right now, and
I'm loving it. Veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War. All right, buddy,
you just got over there, you get yourself signed up,
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and you are leaving. You said, out on a convoy?
What does that mean? Why a convoy? Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Went there? I was in Salisbury when I had the
first interview with these from this ladies from the court,
and she sent me to Tali, which is used to
be I take a stepping off point when people were
going into Mosam Beacon Viiara. For one time it was
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a vacation spot. But anyway, when I asked her how
do I get there? And they said, well, most people hitchhike,
and I said, oh cool, my kids do not. We
I got a TAXI went to the hitchhike spot and
you took you took your place in line. If you understand,
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you know, the first person there got the first ride
that came by, et cetera, et cetera. And my first
ride that I got was with a gentleman, older gentleman
who's my age now probably, but back then, uh, and
I had a heck of a time understanding him with
his heavy English accent, and he had a heck of
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a time understanding me with my Southern accent, which is
pretty much gone now. But it was a nice ride.
He told me about, pointed out things. He had a
pristine sterling I'm sure you're familiar with that nine millimeter
just uh like a little submachine gun he'd had for years,
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and with a back of you know, whole bag of magazines.
And he's just riding down the road by himself, glad
to have somebody come along in case they got into
a bang bang shoot him up. He let me off
at a place called a Sapi which Therasapi rivers one
a notable I believe it or not, in the middle
of a war. They were doing two breast rafting rafting
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excuse me down there, which kind of surprised me. So uh.
In between there, I had gotten a ride with a
gentleman from Bird's Eye uh Farms. He wanted me. He
offered me a job, but again I pass out w
U because again I wasn't familiar with nothing. So anyway,
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by the time I got into a sapie, I was
getting a little tired of the long comes a I
believe it was called a rock I know, army armed army,
armored vehicle with four young guys in it, and they
stopped back up give me a ride. I said, this
is very cool. So I'm heading into Salisbury in this thing.
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And these guys have been called a terrorist call up.
Oldest one was eighteen. They were sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old.
And they took me into town and from there I
hooked up at the CID lady and she in turn
hooked me up with Anglo American Slash Force Management Service,
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who hired me and put me on convoy duty escorting
timber trucks believe it or not, in and out of
the Tremanti Mony mountains between Talian there.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, so walk me through convoy duty. What is your job?
How many vehicles was? What is the danger out there
the environment? Walk us to it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Okay. I went on as an a gunner with one
of the mahon who was carrying the magh you know
I'm talking about felt fed and we drove around. We
were a we didn't stay in one place in the convoy.
We had a little I think it was an as
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Susan and two guys in the front seat, me and
a machon in the back with the seven six y
two mag and we may we may ride a mile
back from the convoy. We may go up and get
in the middle of the convoy. And it was really
dangerous because they they would spread out too much. I
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haven't got a you know, you know what I'm talking
about on that yea, And it was really uncomfortable. H
they would get hit. A. I took over as EXO
at one of the companies, but right after I left them,
the convoy got hit. But we would go in. We'd
leave the tally about one o'clock. We would go into
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mal Setta, which was where one of the sawmills was at.
And then from Melsetta we'd take one truck and go
to Tillbury Estate, which was where I would end up
being stationed at. And there we would leave an empty
track the trailer and pick up one september that been
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cut come back. They had a hotel there that the
company owned coross Us two bucks a night. We stay
there and about six o'clock and the next morning we'd
be back on the road back to Tally. Get there
about eleven o'clock, two hour turnaround and it was back
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on the road again.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Buddy, you say again speaking with Buddy Lily, veteran of
the Rhodesian bush Bore, You say, after you left, the
convoy got hit? What does that mean? What happened to it?
Who did what?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
They got ambushed? It was not far from Melsetta. I'm
not I can't remember everything, but it was scattered out
and they hit the one of the chase trucks like
I was on. Nobody was hurt, but the guys had
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to give up the truck and get out of the way.
They had to hit the bush run. The other guys
UH opened fire and I found out that G three
brass line can break the windshield. I don't know if
you ever had that experience or not in a rick
or not, but brass flying in the windows will break
it all. None of the security people were hurt. One
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of the civilians lost the leg it blew as hitting
below the below the knee and Mesty mop.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh all right, all right, buddy, you you leave this job.
What's your next job? And why did you leave?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They had they needed an exo at the security office
at Temby. Uh here it's timberline off. I got Tillbury
excuse me, Tillbury Estate where we would we would go
into at night. And they asked me if I wanted
to do it, and I liked it. It was uh.
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I was uncomfortable with the way the convoys were acting.
And if you try to control African drivers, forget it.
They don't know but one speed and that's fast. They're
racing each other. And some things in different countries don't change.
So I went there and they asked me if I
wanted to stay on. So I went on and had
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my gear brought up from Tolly and I took over
as number two in charge.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Buddy, Is that where you stayed for the remainder of
the war. Where did you go from there?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I stayed right there. I came home on R and R.
We can go back and fill in later, but I
came home in R and R after the peacekeeping forces
came in, and once I got home, I got I
got a call. Don't come back until we call you
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because it wasn't looking real good.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, so this is still I'm assuming nineteen seventy nine,
what does.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Phill seventy nine, Yes, sir, I got. I was on
the convoys for about ten days. So when they put
they asked me if I wanted to take over as
XO on the Militia Company or whatever you want to
call them. They're all Mashona. There were two, myself and
the other uh oh, I see he was white, and
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then the rest of them are all Mashona, Mashona.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right, now we are gonna continue this story, actually
right there in a moment Mashona, because this is something
that's obviously more appropriate word. I believe that I think
I called him shawna I. I don't know whatever, But
either way, we're gonna come back with Buddy. We'll find
out about these guys. It's just just two white guys
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all black guys. I told you this wasn't a white
versus black thing like our dirty comedy media in this
country sold everybody. But we'll be back. Get the rest
of Buddy Lily's story. Veteran of the Rhodesian bush Ward
hang on, I've got on that him all inside on me,
Jesse Kelly. You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. It
(09:57):
is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. Remember, you
can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Back with Rhodesian Bush War veteran Buddy Lily. Okay, Buddy,
you take over as XO. Sorry, that's executive officer for
any civilian types who don't understand what that means. You
take over as XO of a quote militia company. Were
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there a lot of those?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I had? Well, I only had. I had sixty Mashona
in my company. I used the term militia. They called
himself guards. I had sixty giver or take. Some of
them stayed at the compounds where the Europeans lived at.
We kept two to three there all the time. You
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know they lived there, I mean they they lived with
the families, They ate with the families. They stayed up
and guarded them all night long. And we usually we
stayed around sixty personnel giver or take all.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Right, so how are you getting around the country and
what are you doing? What? What what are you doing
with these Mashona tribesmen that that you're now basically in
charge of what what what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Well, as I mentioned, we had people that stayed at
the European compounds where the Europeans lived at White they
called them Europeans over there. They were the permanent security.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And then we ran UH patrols, mounted patrols, foot patrols,
usual saying stuff that you do anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
UH make an appearance, Let let the bad guys know
you're here and see if we can get you to
come out, which they did come out.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What kind of fighters were they?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Buddy good, bad idiots, brave.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
To be real, honest. What I'm going to tell you
I got from some of the guys that I work with,
which a couple of them had been Rhodesian Light Infantry.
The hardcore we were, you know, the ones that went
to Korea or Russia somewhere for training were pretty they
were pretty hardcore. But the rest of them were just criminals.
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They didn't care who the government was. They had an
AK forty seven and they could go out and rob, steal, rate,
do what they want to, and it was all for liberty,
you know, to liberate the country. So if that gives
you an answer.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
No, it is, it does. It's not a surprising answer.
At all. Comedies are always recruiting these dirtballs in any
society to go, but your wonderful people, There's no question
about it. What was the attitude of the Rhodesians when
it came to international things, meaning was their hatred for Britain,
for America for selling them out? Did they ever bring
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it up? Did they not care?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yes, kind of. I got checked out, vetted. They went
through my gear. They thought I was CIA, which I wasn't.
I mean, if I was, I would tell you right now.
I was on my own and I'm not. As I
told one of the guys, I said, matter, if I'm CIA,
I'd be here to do something to help you. You
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know when that ended that Britain they hated the Brits.
You can imagine what happened when the British sent in
people for the peacekeeping force. That was not pretty.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What happened? What was this peacekeeping force? What happened?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We're getting a little ahead of ourselves. But when the
Lord Carrington, Jimmy Carter, I believe all of them got
together and they came up with this plan there was
gonna be free elections, which didn't happen. New Zealand, Australia
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two other countries sent in suppose of leave peacekeeping forces,
which was a laugh because when these guys traveled with
our convoys, they traveled a lot and loaded. What does
that tell you? But uh, that's why I came home
in R and R because we had been we'd been
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shut down. I couldn't do any patrols. My last patrol,
which is a good story, I'll tell that in a minute.
But we were shut down. That was it.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Tell me about patrol.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, let me let me if I could let me
go into the day by day.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Routine, please go ahead, please, that would.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Work into everything. I hadn't been there too long when,
for what reason I never understood, the terriffs would go
in there and try and set the forest on fire.
It was a termber form. There was the thirty thousand
acres of Georgia pines there. That's hard to believe. That
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they had brought him in years before, and they grew
exceedingly fast and healthy up there in the mountains. So
we had to provide security for the company workers, the law,
the saw mill workers who are trying to put the
fire out, and that ended up most of the night
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about three o'clock in the morning. My E five in charge,
I call it E five. I have one sergeant, one
sergeant major, and everybody else were foot soldiers. He came
in and a little bit of humor stood at attention
in my room and sounded like when you're kippling with
this famous serve, I believe they want you at the
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fire perfectly. So we hauled but out get down there
the estate managers supervising. This is two or three o'clock
in the morning, and they kept setting little fires different
places and it weren't burning good, but they were trying
to set them. So he told a sergeant and another
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couple of the machoner to take me to a certain
area to get out and fire some rounds so that
one group may think that the other group was in contact,
which okay, that worked, so we did that. We come
flying back in through there, I stopped the we were
had what called Leopard it was supposedly a you know,
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explosion proof vehicle, and we stopped and there was an explosion.
The army had sent a reactionary force from downtown Melsetta,
which is a lot of very but besides that, it's
not very big. But they had army detachment there and
they come up and they hit a mine. I could
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see first heard an rpug go off which came from
the weapon, came from the army vehicle. They fired, and
I caught a glimpse of some green tracers, and I
hauled as well. Let me go back to my sergeant
again and for a little humor.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well, hold on here, pause for just a moment, Buddy.
I hate to interrupt you midstory, but we have a heartbreak.
We'll come back and we'll go to your sergeant major
as you're in the middle of a firefight and land
mines and everything else. I hate to interrupt you at
this point, but hang on. We're going to commercial. We'll
be right back with Buddy Lily Ham. This is a
Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on
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an amazing Wednesday. I'm just nerding out right now with
veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War, Buddy Lily. I've never
done an interview this long on the show, and I'm
loving it. All right, Buddy, the floor is back to
being yours. Got yourself in a firefight. There's RPGs green tracers.
That means a case by the way for people who
don't know. And the floor is back to being yours.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So my sage the same one. He stands up behind me.
I'm driving, and he says, Sir, I believe it is
an ambush, And I said, I said, I'm driving, You're
in charge. So I had to go up about fifty yard.
I don't even fifty yards, twenty five thirty yards, take
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a left on the road, and I went nose to
nose with the army vehicle that had hit the mine
to avoid free fire. So in between all this it
wasn't funny. Then it's funny now they cut loose with
a G three. I had three guys in the back,
two of them had G three's and one of them
had a FA and the sergeant. They're firing over the
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top through the canvas, and you know where all the
brass is going. You've been there.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Before, yes, sir, I had one down my flack jacket
right time. All I've never just robbed so fast in
my life.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Ah. As you know at ambush is it's over in
thirty seconds. When I pulled in, everybody quit firing, and
two minutes later everybody's out front. They're shaking my guys
are with the Mashona Army guys. They're shaking hands and
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exchanging cigarettes. And the driver gets out and he says, oh,
you're the yank. I said, yes, sir, and he said,
glad to meet you. You know. He said, this is
my fifth mind I've hit. And I looked at him.
I said, this is the fifth time you've hit him mine.
He said yep, And I said Jesus oh. And I
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was deaf. I had I was still felting being burnt.
And these guys were just so relaxed, you know, you
automatically and Vrenlin goes down. Everybody's cool. So we went
back and had breakfast. What can I.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Say, Rhodesians? Did you find them to be good troops? Buddy?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yes, the ones that I all the guys that I
worked with on the convoy. One of them was still
active duty from the Rhodesian Rifles. He had been in
the bush so long he had months of leaves, so
they gave him his leave. He was a sergeant major
and he was working for the company while he was
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on leave. One of the guys had come from RLI
and I saw his record. In one month, he did
twenty seven jumps. How many guys real done?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Many? Good? Great, that's more than most guys doing their
whole career. Buddy, I have to ask you about your
last patrol. Tell us that story.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
When the forces came in. The estate manager said, look,
we're going to have to quit. We can't go out there.
Well about a month prior, we'd had them come into
one of the villages, and unfortunately we couldn't catch up
with them before they got to the TTL, which is
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their tribal trust land. We even put a block and
force out and just couldn't get to them. There's a
lot more to it, but that just mounted to So
with payday coming up, he said, let's go out. He said,
go out and let the tears know that we're looking
for him anyway, because they like to come into the
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villages on payday and help themselves to whatever money they
could get. We were doing a short run. One my
point guy looked and picked up a letter. It was
a fresh letter, had been opened, but it was a
terrorist writing each other back and forth. And he says,
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they're here. I said, oh great, So I called headquarters.
We had radios. They weren't real good, but we called
and I said, we're gonna follow them, so here we go.
I only had two I had five guys with me.
I had two canteens of water with me and that
was it. And we got on a game trail got
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going down the hills. First thing I was walking point
at the time. The first thing I came across as
a trip wire. Well it wasn't a trip wire, it
was a snare. My guys explained to me that the
tears would snare an animal and just leave it and
when they needed food next time they come through, they
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kill it, which is I'd get new. Well, you know,
we that slowed us down. We found it was a
nice trail, but we found one or two more though
it's been so long. And we came out of the
brush on the side of a hill a little bit
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and next thing I know, I had my tracker was
up front. Stephen was his English name. He was a
mashoon and he was like a goat. He can just
walk up anything. Jesse. I looked down and there was
a stream down there and it must have been two
hundred foot straight down rocks and I have never felt
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my gut come up in my throat like it. Right then,
two reasons. I didn't want to fall, and we were
wide open. We were following you know, terrorists four, and
now all I could think of I had screwed up
big time. I got this whole patrol right here in
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the open, and we had about fifteen foot to go.
And when we finally got up there, I was man,
I would say. We all just kind of laid down,
and by then all two canteens of water was gone.
This has been six seven hours. Just got comfortable. Steven
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looks up and he motions that and he put his
fingers up on on his collar, which so then I meant,
you know, for me to come forward. There's a good
coming up the river the stream. He's not armed, and
of course they wanted me to take him out, and
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we didn't know if it was a terrorist or whether
it was a villager. We sat there watching, watching. He
was going along doing something in the water, and I
could have got him. It wasn't over one hundred and
fifty yards. I could have popped him, but I didn't
want to shoot an innocent although they weren't supposed to
be there. Said okay, let's see if we can slip
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down and capture him, which was not a good idea
because he probably had friends, but it was a good idea.
Time we knocked the rock down the hill, just like
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I motioned, the guys are going in defensive position. I said, oh,
we are so screwed. That was two mistakes I had
made the same day, and nothing happened. We waited. Finally
we used on down the hill. We got to the
creek and myself and Steven stood guard. Well, the rest
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of them got in the water and then they stood
guard and we got down and got cooled off, and
everything ended up. We had lost radio contact. Headed up on.
Finally got upon a hill where I could reach the base,
told them where we were. They knew where we were at,
so they said, wait, we'll send their guys out to
get you. And we sat there talking and it was
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very sad because one of the guys asked me. He said, mister,
They called me, mister budd, where are you going? You
can go home when this is over, And I looked
at him. I said, guys, all I can tell you
to do. If my gobby wins, take your weapons and
go to South Africa. Travel at night. All because they
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could not go back to their villages just if they did,
they'd be killed, plus their families would be killed because
they had been you know, security people. So as by
then we got on back and we couldn't do anything.
You would just sit around, go just kill time and
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you know, twiddle your thumbs. So that's when I asked
the boss about going home on R and R for
thirty days or whatever. Of course, they gave me a
wish list of stuff to bring back, which I knew
I couldn't do, but I would try anyway, And that's
about how it ended. Got home and got a call.
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So there I was broke, unemployed. I tried to get
my job back with the government and that didn't go over.
Real good story, jes.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Buddy, Lily, Buddy, I just cannot thank you enough for
forgiving us this perspective is it's something I know people
are just wrapped up fascinated by it. I've been fascinated
by it. Thank you for one your service to our country,
service to a wonderful country like Rhodesia, for giving us
some time. Appreciate you very much, buddy, Lily, simplify my friend.
Merry Christmas to you and yours. By the way, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Best to you, and I'm very humbled that you let
me on your show. I thank you very.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Much, appreciate you, sir. I'm so nerding out right now. Chris.
If we didn't, if we had a longer show, we
could have kept him on longer. Why can't you arrange that?
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a magnificent Wednesday. You can email the show Jesse at
Jesse kellyshow dot com. What a freaking week it has
been already we're cruising into the end of it. We're
like ten minutes away from Donald Trump addressing the nation. Now,
presidents are almost always late. You can be late when
you're the President of the United States of America. But
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at nine pm Eastern, we'll see if the rumors are
true that he's essentially gonna say Venezuela's got it coming.
Jewish producer Chris disagrees that's what he's gonna say. I'm
not saying I think it is. There's a lot of
rumors going around. We'll find out. Let's hope by the
time I sit down tomorrow, we're not at war with Venezuela.
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What Chris Chris said, Congress would never declare war. What
do you think you live in a country where that
still matters. They don't even ask Congress anymore. They just
they just decide to go do it whenever they want
to do it. It's just whatever, Jesse. We need to
import all of Western Europeans who hold our ideals that
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are about to lose their lands. We will need them
to reconquer our own, and then we need to conquer
Canada as well. If Mexico, Mexico looks at us wrong,
they'll be next. I love Canadians, and there are so
many hardcore right wingers in Canada, and they are outnumbered impossibly.
(30:34):
Now they were always outnumbered a little, but now I
heard an incredible stat and I don't want to misquote it,
so let'll we just clarify what I'm about to say.
Maybe incorrect, but I think it's in the last four
or five years, Canada has had a twenty percent increase
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in their population, all foreigners. They just completely look, I've
told you that's what they want to do. That's the plan.
You outnumber your patriotic citizens so they never have a
voice and you get to maintain your tyranny forever. The
ultimate patriotic issue is immigration. You can tell how patriotic
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you are based on how you are on that issue,
because to the communist it is everything. Why do you
think they talk like this? How do you think it ends?
How do you think the era ends?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
This is I'm hoping.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
This is what I'm hoping that midterms people come out
and vote like crazy to switch it over and then
the recon incomes.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
That's what I want.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
All everybody that work for ICE, I want them in jail.
I just want a wreck.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Everybody that works for ICE, I want them in jail.
We'll talk like this that Democrats will now without even
like it's not like there it's a text message that
got exposed. They'll step up to the microphone in public
and they'll announce that immigrants build America, just right in
your face. They don't hide it at all. Again, here's
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Steve Cohen.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
They're arresting people simply for the offense of being in
the country illegally.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's not right. They're mortified that we're deporting people who
are here illegally. Anyway, as far as bringing in people
who share our values, it's a fun thing to dream about.
It will never happen. Trump did a little of it.
He brought in some Africaners. Remember Africaners. Well, actually, it's
(32:31):
a good time to bring it up. What happened in Rhodesia.
It's happening already in South Africa now too, where the
ruling communist elite there they've declared that white people are
the enemy, white people are evil, and white people were
under assault over there. So in the white ones there
are called Africaners, and Trump brought a bunch of them
(32:51):
over here. Notice you never hear a word from them.
Notice they're not all on welfare. Notice they never run
to the news and talk like that.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
The biggest worry of the new executive order is that
it does separate families. It doesn't create an exception for
you as citizens to have their family members be able
to come visit and celebrate milestones with them. And so
this is very cool.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
They just show up, find a job, go to work, grateful.
Who you bring in matters a lot, It matters a lot.
Every culture is not the same, Every culture is not equal.
There are disgusting third world thieving, raping, murdering cultures out
(33:37):
there all across the globe. And the number of people
you should bring into your country from those cultures is zero.
You go and keep just go murder anyone you want
in your country. You stay out of my country, but
not us Because we have a Democrat Party and Republicans
like James Langford. We've thrown open our borders and brought
these barbarians into your classroom. That's why they ate your
(34:00):
cat last week. By the way, do you have a
Burnat compact launcher yet? Because these savages are all throughout
our society. Now, don't think that you're small Midwestern towns safe. Oh,
They're going to bring eight thousand people from Haiti and
park them in your in your kids' school next week.
Do you have something that will stop a bad man
from hurting you? Does your daughter? It's really, really, really
(34:21):
important to understand how dangerous our society has become. And
Berna is legal everywhere because it's not lethal. It shoots
pepper balls or tear gas balls or kinetic rounds. It's
private security companies carry these things. Swat teams carry these things.
Burna saves lives. That's already saved lives of my listeners,
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Speaker 2 (34:50):
Now here's a headline by go you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
The thing headlines we didn't get to. Abdul o l said,
by the way, he's running for office in Michigan, not Lebanon.
I swear proposed commuting all sentences for juveniles facing life
in prison. The plan would grant early release to some
of Michigan's most violent killers. It's almost like they're trying
(35:18):
to put violent criminals back into society. No, that couldn't
be it, right, I'm sure they're just No. You've new
Canadian school rule forces kids to wear helmets to play
in the snow. Oh my gosh. I wish I could
tell my father about that. Hydrogen plays part in global warming.
According to a study, I reminded that there is no
(35:38):
global warming warming, no man cause global warming. The Earth's
weather patterns are exactly that patterns. It heats, it cools,
it does its thing. But the very idea that man
is destroying the earth is an idea that's going to
kill a couple billion people one day. Trump's marijuana move
has Democrats nervous, According to a CNN analyst, might say
(36:00):
they're paranoid. Foiled again. Fentanyl dealer shows up to court
with more drugs. Hey, that's where the criminals are. You
can hardly blame him for that. House Republican who voted
to impeach Trump in twenty twenty one won't seek reelection. Golly,
we have some freaking loser dorks. Rubio says he will
(36:21):
not run in twenty twenty eight and JD. Vance enters
the race. That is not only are they friends, that's
just a realistic acknowledgment from Rubio that Jdvans is going
to be very difficult to beat in the Republican primary.
All right, we'll be back tomorrow. I don't even know
what we're gonna do. We'll have fun, though, that's all.
This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour, final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show.
I don't want to waste a single second teasing anything
else that's coming, because I don't care about anything else
it's coming. I'm talking to Buddy Lily right now, and
I'm loving it. Veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War. All right, buddy,
you just got over there, you get yourself signed up,
(00:33):
and you are leaving. You said, out on a convoy?
What does that mean? Why a convoy? Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Went there? I was in Salisbury when I had the
first interview with these from this ladies from the court,
and she sent me to Tali, which is used to
be I take a stepping off point when people were
going into Mosam Beacon Viiara. For one time it was
(01:00):
a vacation spot. But anyway, when I asked her how
do I get there? And they said, well, most people hitchhike,
and I said, oh cool, my kids do not. We
I got a TAXI went to the hitchhike spot and
you took you took your place in line. If you understand,
(01:22):
you know, the first person there got the first ride
that came by, et cetera, et cetera. And my first
ride that I got was with a gentleman, older gentleman
who's my age now probably, but back then, uh, and
I had a heck of a time understanding him with
his heavy English accent, and he had a heck of
(01:46):
a time understanding me with my Southern accent, which is
pretty much gone now. But it was a nice ride.
He told me about, pointed out things. He had a
pristine sterling I'm sure you're familiar with that nine millimeter
just uh like a little submachine gun he'd had for years,
(02:06):
and with a back of you know, whole bag of magazines.
And he's just riding down the road by himself, glad
to have somebody come along in case they got into
a bang bang shoot him up. He let me off
at a place called a Sapi which Therasapi rivers one
a notable I believe it or not, in the middle
of a war. They were doing two breast rafting rafting
(02:31):
excuse me down there, which kind of surprised me. So uh.
In between there, I had gotten a ride with a
gentleman from Bird's Eye uh Farms. He wanted me. He
offered me a job, but again I pass out w
U because again I wasn't familiar with nothing. So anyway,
(02:53):
by the time I got into a sapie, I was
getting a little tired of the long comes a I
believe it was called a rock I know, army armed army,
armored vehicle with four young guys in it, and they
stopped back up give me a ride. I said, this
is very cool. So I'm heading into Salisbury in this thing.
(03:14):
And these guys have been called a terrorist call up.
Oldest one was eighteen. They were sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old.
And they took me into town and from there I
hooked up at the CID lady and she in turn
hooked me up with Anglo American Slash Force Management Service,
(03:39):
who hired me and put me on convoy duty escorting
timber trucks believe it or not, in and out of
the Tremanti Mony mountains between Talian there.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, so walk me through convoy duty. What is your job?
How many vehicles was? What is the danger out there
the environment? Walk us to it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Okay. I went on as an a gunner with one
of the mahon who was carrying the magh you know
I'm talking about felt fed and we drove around. We
were a we didn't stay in one place in the convoy.
We had a little I think it was an as
(04:26):
Susan and two guys in the front seat, me and
a machon in the back with the seven six y
two mag and we may we may ride a mile
back from the convoy. We may go up and get
in the middle of the convoy. And it was really
dangerous because they they would spread out too much. I
(04:51):
haven't got a you know, you know what I'm talking
about on that yea, And it was really uncomfortable. H
they would get hit. A. I took over as EXO
at one of the companies, but right after I left them,
the convoy got hit. But we would go in. We'd
leave the tally about one o'clock. We would go into
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mal Setta, which was where one of the sawmills was at.
And then from Melsetta we'd take one truck and go
to Tillbury Estate, which was where I would end up
being stationed at. And there we would leave an empty
track the trailer and pick up one september that been
(05:37):
cut come back. They had a hotel there that the
company owned coross Us two bucks a night. We stay
there and about six o'clock and the next morning we'd
be back on the road back to Tally. Get there
about eleven o'clock, two hour turnaround and it was back
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on the road again.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Buddy, you say again speaking with Buddy Lily, veteran of
the Rhodesian bush Bore, You say, after you left, the
convoy got hit? What does that mean? What happened to it?
Who did what?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
They got ambushed? It was not far from Melsetta. I'm
not I can't remember everything, but it was scattered out
and they hit the one of the chase trucks like
I was on. Nobody was hurt, but the guys had
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to give up the truck and get out of the way.
They had to hit the bush run. The other guys
UH opened fire and I found out that G three
brass line can break the windshield. I don't know if
you ever had that experience or not in a rick
or not, but brass flying in the windows will break
it all. None of the security people were hurt. One
(06:56):
of the civilians lost the leg it blew as hitting
below the below the knee and Mesty mop.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh all right, all right, buddy, you you leave this job.
What's your next job? And why did you leave?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They had they needed an exo at the security office
at Temby. Uh here it's timberline off. I got Tillbury
excuse me, Tillbury Estate where we would we would go
into at night. And they asked me if I wanted
to do it, and I liked it. It was uh.
(07:38):
I was uncomfortable with the way the convoys were acting.
And if you try to control African drivers, forget it.
They don't know but one speed and that's fast. They're
racing each other. And some things in different countries don't change.
So I went there and they asked me if I
wanted to stay on. So I went on and had
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my gear brought up from Tolly and I took over
as number two in charge.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Buddy, Is that where you stayed for the remainder of
the war. Where did you go from there?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I stayed right there. I came home on R and R.
We can go back and fill in later, but I
came home in R and R after the peacekeeping forces
came in, and once I got home, I got I
got a call. Don't come back until we call you
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because it wasn't looking real good.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, so this is still I'm assuming nineteen seventy nine,
what does.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Phill seventy nine, Yes, sir, I got. I was on
the convoys for about ten days. So when they put
they asked me if I wanted to take over as
XO on the Militia Company or whatever you want to
call them. They're all Mashona. There were two, myself and
the other uh oh, I see he was white, and
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then the rest of them are all Mashona, Mashona.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right, now we are gonna continue this story, actually
right there in a moment Mashona, because this is something
that's obviously more appropriate word. I believe that I think
I called him shawna I. I don't know whatever, But
either way, we're gonna come back with Buddy. We'll find
out about these guys. It's just just two white guys
(09:34):
all black guys. I told you this wasn't a white
versus black thing like our dirty comedy media in this
country sold everybody. But we'll be back. Get the rest
of Buddy Lily's story. Veteran of the Rhodesian bush Ward
hang on, I've got on that him all inside on me,
Jesse Kelly. You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. It
(09:57):
is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. Remember, you
can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Back with Rhodesian Bush War veteran Buddy Lily. Okay, Buddy,
you take over as XO. Sorry, that's executive officer for
any civilian types who don't understand what that means. You
take over as XO of a quote militia company. Were
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there a lot of those?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I had? Well, I only had. I had sixty Mashona
in my company. I used the term militia. They called
himself guards. I had sixty giver or take. Some of
them stayed at the compounds where the Europeans lived at.
We kept two to three there all the time. You
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know they lived there, I mean they they lived with
the families, They ate with the families. They stayed up
and guarded them all night long. And we usually we
stayed around sixty personnel giver or take all.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Right, so how are you getting around the country and
what are you doing? What? What what are you doing
with these Mashona tribesmen that that you're now basically in
charge of what what what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Well, as I mentioned, we had people that stayed at
the European compounds where the Europeans lived at White they
called them Europeans over there. They were the permanent security.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And then we ran UH patrols, mounted patrols, foot patrols,
usual saying stuff that you do anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
UH make an appearance, Let let the bad guys know
you're here and see if we can get you to
come out, which they did come out.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What kind of fighters were they?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Buddy good, bad idiots, brave.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
To be real, honest. What I'm going to tell you
I got from some of the guys that I work with,
which a couple of them had been Rhodesian Light Infantry.
The hardcore we were, you know, the ones that went
to Korea or Russia somewhere for training were pretty they
were pretty hardcore. But the rest of them were just criminals.
(12:19):
They didn't care who the government was. They had an
AK forty seven and they could go out and rob, steal, rate,
do what they want to, and it was all for liberty,
you know, to liberate the country. So if that gives
you an answer.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
No, it is, it does. It's not a surprising answer.
At all. Comedies are always recruiting these dirtballs in any
society to go, but your wonderful people, There's no question
about it. What was the attitude of the Rhodesians when
it came to international things, meaning was their hatred for Britain,
for America for selling them out? Did they ever bring
(12:56):
it up? Did they not care?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yes, kind of. I got checked out, vetted. They went
through my gear. They thought I was CIA, which I wasn't.
I mean, if I was, I would tell you right now.
I was on my own and I'm not. As I
told one of the guys, I said, matter, if I'm CIA,
I'd be here to do something to help you. You
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know when that ended that Britain they hated the Brits.
You can imagine what happened when the British sent in
people for the peacekeeping force. That was not pretty.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What happened? What was this peacekeeping force? What happened?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We're getting a little ahead of ourselves. But when the
Lord Carrington, Jimmy Carter, I believe all of them got
together and they came up with this plan there was
gonna be free elections, which didn't happen. New Zealand, Australia
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two other countries sent in suppose of leave peacekeeping forces,
which was a laugh because when these guys traveled with
our convoys, they traveled a lot and loaded. What does
that tell you? But uh, that's why I came home
in R and R because we had been we'd been
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shut down. I couldn't do any patrols. My last patrol,
which is a good story, I'll tell that in a minute.
But we were shut down. That was it.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Tell me about patrol.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, let me let me if I could let me
go into the day by day.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Routine, please go ahead, please, that would.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Work into everything. I hadn't been there too long when,
for what reason I never understood, the terriffs would go
in there and try and set the forest on fire.
It was a termber form. There was the thirty thousand
acres of Georgia pines there. That's hard to believe. That
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they had brought him in years before, and they grew
exceedingly fast and healthy up there in the mountains. So
we had to provide security for the company workers, the law,
the saw mill workers who are trying to put the
fire out, and that ended up most of the night
(15:23):
about three o'clock in the morning. My E five in charge,
I call it E five. I have one sergeant, one
sergeant major, and everybody else were foot soldiers. He came
in and a little bit of humor stood at attention
in my room and sounded like when you're kippling with
this famous serve, I believe they want you at the
(15:46):
fire perfectly. So we hauled but out get down there
the estate managers supervising. This is two or three o'clock
in the morning, and they kept setting little fires different
places and it weren't burning good, but they were trying
to set them. So he told a sergeant and another
(16:10):
couple of the machoner to take me to a certain
area to get out and fire some rounds so that
one group may think that the other group was in contact,
which okay, that worked, so we did that. We come
flying back in through there, I stopped the we were
had what called Leopard it was supposedly a you know,
(16:35):
explosion proof vehicle, and we stopped and there was an explosion.
The army had sent a reactionary force from downtown Melsetta,
which is a lot of very but besides that, it's
not very big. But they had army detachment there and
they come up and they hit a mine. I could
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see first heard an rpug go off which came from
the weapon, came from the army vehicle. They fired, and
I caught a glimpse of some green tracers, and I
hauled as well. Let me go back to my sergeant
again and for a little humor.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well, hold on here, pause for just a moment, Buddy.
I hate to interrupt you midstory, but we have a heartbreak.
We'll come back and we'll go to your sergeant major
as you're in the middle of a firefight and land
mines and everything else. I hate to interrupt you at
this point, but hang on. We're going to commercial. We'll
be right back with Buddy Lily Ham. This is a
Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on
(17:39):
an amazing Wednesday. I'm just nerding out right now with
veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War, Buddy Lily. I've never
done an interview this long on the show, and I'm
loving it. All right, Buddy, the floor is back to
being yours. Got yourself in a firefight. There's RPGs green tracers.
That means a case by the way for people who
don't know. And the floor is back to being yours.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So my sage the same one. He stands up behind me.
I'm driving, and he says, Sir, I believe it is
an ambush, And I said, I said, I'm driving, You're
in charge. So I had to go up about fifty yard.
I don't even fifty yards, twenty five thirty yards, take
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a left on the road, and I went nose to
nose with the army vehicle that had hit the mine
to avoid free fire. So in between all this it
wasn't funny. Then it's funny now they cut loose with
a G three. I had three guys in the back,
two of them had G three's and one of them
had a FA and the sergeant. They're firing over the
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top through the canvas, and you know where all the
brass is going. You've been there.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Before, yes, sir, I had one down my flack jacket
right time. All I've never just robbed so fast in
my life.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Ah. As you know at ambush is it's over in
thirty seconds. When I pulled in, everybody quit firing, and
two minutes later everybody's out front. They're shaking my guys
are with the Mashona Army guys. They're shaking hands and
(19:23):
exchanging cigarettes. And the driver gets out and he says, oh,
you're the yank. I said, yes, sir, and he said,
glad to meet you. You know. He said, this is
my fifth mind I've hit. And I looked at him.
I said, this is the fifth time you've hit him mine.
He said yep, And I said Jesus oh. And I
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was deaf. I had I was still felting being burnt.
And these guys were just so relaxed, you know, you
automatically and Vrenlin goes down. Everybody's cool. So we went
back and had breakfast. What can I.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Say, Rhodesians? Did you find them to be good troops? Buddy?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yes, the ones that I all the guys that I
worked with on the convoy. One of them was still
active duty from the Rhodesian Rifles. He had been in
the bush so long he had months of leaves, so
they gave him his leave. He was a sergeant major
and he was working for the company while he was
(20:31):
on leave. One of the guys had come from RLI
and I saw his record. In one month, he did
twenty seven jumps. How many guys real done?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Many? Good? Great, that's more than most guys doing their
whole career. Buddy, I have to ask you about your
last patrol. Tell us that story.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
When the forces came in. The estate manager said, look,
we're going to have to quit. We can't go out there.
Well about a month prior, we'd had them come into
one of the villages, and unfortunately we couldn't catch up
with them before they got to the TTL, which is
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their tribal trust land. We even put a block and
force out and just couldn't get to them. There's a
lot more to it, but that just mounted to So
with payday coming up, he said, let's go out. He said,
go out and let the tears know that we're looking
for him anyway, because they like to come into the
(21:41):
villages on payday and help themselves to whatever money they
could get. We were doing a short run. One my
point guy looked and picked up a letter. It was
a fresh letter, had been opened, but it was a
terrorist writing each other back and forth. And he says,
(22:02):
they're here. I said, oh great, So I called headquarters.
We had radios. They weren't real good, but we called
and I said, we're gonna follow them, so here we go.
I only had two I had five guys with me.
I had two canteens of water with me and that
was it. And we got on a game trail got
(22:25):
going down the hills. First thing I was walking point
at the time. The first thing I came across as
a trip wire. Well it wasn't a trip wire, it
was a snare. My guys explained to me that the
tears would snare an animal and just leave it and
when they needed food next time they come through, they
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kill it, which is I'd get new. Well, you know,
we that slowed us down. We found it was a
nice trail, but we found one or two more though
it's been so long. And we came out of the
brush on the side of a hill a little bit
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and next thing I know, I had my tracker was
up front. Stephen was his English name. He was a
mashoon and he was like a goat. He can just
walk up anything. Jesse. I looked down and there was
a stream down there and it must have been two
hundred foot straight down rocks and I have never felt
(23:31):
my gut come up in my throat like it. Right then,
two reasons. I didn't want to fall, and we were
wide open. We were following you know, terrorists four, and
now all I could think of I had screwed up
big time. I got this whole patrol right here in
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the open, and we had about fifteen foot to go.
And when we finally got up there, I was man,
I would say. We all just kind of laid down,
and by then all two canteens of water was gone.
This has been six seven hours. Just got comfortable. Steven
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looks up and he motions that and he put his
fingers up on on his collar, which so then I meant,
you know, for me to come forward. There's a good
coming up the river the stream. He's not armed, and
of course they wanted me to take him out, and
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we didn't know if it was a terrorist or whether
it was a villager. We sat there watching, watching. He
was going along doing something in the water, and I
could have got him. It wasn't over one hundred and
fifty yards. I could have popped him, but I didn't
want to shoot an innocent although they weren't supposed to
be there. Said okay, let's see if we can slip
(24:54):
down and capture him, which was not a good idea
because he probably had friends, but it was a good idea.
Time we knocked the rock down the hill, just like
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I motioned, the guys are going in defensive position. I said, oh,
we are so screwed. That was two mistakes I had
made the same day, and nothing happened. We waited. Finally
we used on down the hill. We got to the
creek and myself and Steven stood guard. Well, the rest
(25:28):
of them got in the water and then they stood
guard and we got down and got cooled off, and
everything ended up. We had lost radio contact. Headed up on.
Finally got upon a hill where I could reach the base,
told them where we were. They knew where we were at,
so they said, wait, we'll send their guys out to
get you. And we sat there talking and it was
(25:51):
very sad because one of the guys asked me. He said, mister,
They called me, mister budd, where are you going? You
can go home when this is over, And I looked
at him. I said, guys, all I can tell you
to do. If my gobby wins, take your weapons and
go to South Africa. Travel at night. All because they
(26:12):
could not go back to their villages just if they did,
they'd be killed, plus their families would be killed because
they had been you know, security people. So as by
then we got on back and we couldn't do anything.
You would just sit around, go just kill time and
(26:33):
you know, twiddle your thumbs. So that's when I asked
the boss about going home on R and R for
thirty days or whatever. Of course, they gave me a
wish list of stuff to bring back, which I knew
I couldn't do, but I would try anyway, And that's
about how it ended. Got home and got a call.
(26:55):
So there I was broke, unemployed. I tried to get
my job back with the government and that didn't go over.
Real good story, jes.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Buddy, Lily, Buddy, I just cannot thank you enough for
forgiving us this perspective is it's something I know people
are just wrapped up fascinated by it. I've been fascinated
by it. Thank you for one your service to our country,
service to a wonderful country like Rhodesia, for giving us
some time. Appreciate you very much, buddy, Lily, simplify my friend.
Merry Christmas to you and yours. By the way, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Best to you, and I'm very humbled that you let
me on your show. I thank you very.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Much, appreciate you, sir. I'm so nerding out right now. Chris.
If we didn't, if we had a longer show, we
could have kept him on longer. Why can't you arrange that?
Don't you know? People, it's really Chris's fault. I know
at this point in time, your tea levels are probably
through the roof after spending more than an hour with
(27:59):
a guy who fought in Vietnam and Rhodesia. But for
the rest of us, we have to maintain it. Okay,
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Kelly Show. Final segment of The Jesse Kelly Show at
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a magnificent Wednesday. You can email the show Jesse at
Jesse kellyshow dot com. What a freaking week it has
been already we're cruising into the end of it. We're
like ten minutes away from Donald Trump addressing the nation. Now,
presidents are almost always late. You can be late when
you're the President of the United States of America. But
(29:29):
at nine pm Eastern, we'll see if the rumors are
true that he's essentially gonna say Venezuela's got it coming.
Jewish producer Chris disagrees that's what he's gonna say. I'm
not saying I think it is. There's a lot of
rumors going around. We'll find out. Let's hope by the
time I sit down tomorrow, we're not at war with Venezuela.
(29:50):
What Chris Chris said, Congress would never declare war. What
do you think you live in a country where that
still matters. They don't even ask Congress anymore. They just
they just decide to go do it whenever they want
to do it. It's just whatever, Jesse. We need to
import all of Western Europeans who hold our ideals that
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are about to lose their lands. We will need them
to reconquer our own, and then we need to conquer
Canada as well. If Mexico, Mexico looks at us wrong,
they'll be next. I love Canadians, and there are so
many hardcore right wingers in Canada, and they are outnumbered impossibly.
(30:34):
Now they were always outnumbered a little, but now I
heard an incredible stat and I don't want to misquote it,
so let'll we just clarify what I'm about to say.
Maybe incorrect, but I think it's in the last four
or five years, Canada has had a twenty percent increase
(30:55):
in their population, all foreigners. They just completely look, I've
told you that's what they want to do. That's the plan.
You outnumber your patriotic citizens so they never have a
voice and you get to maintain your tyranny forever. The
ultimate patriotic issue is immigration. You can tell how patriotic
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you are based on how you are on that issue,
because to the communist it is everything. Why do you
think they talk like this? How do you think it ends?
How do you think the era ends?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
This is I'm hoping.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
This is what I'm hoping that midterms people come out
and vote like crazy to switch it over and then
the recon incomes.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
That's what I want.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
All everybody that work for ICE, I want them in jail.
I just want a wreck.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Everybody that works for ICE, I want them in jail.
We'll talk like this that Democrats will now without even
like it's not like there it's a text message that
got exposed. They'll step up to the microphone in public
and they'll announce that immigrants build America, just right in
your face. They don't hide it at all. Again, here's
(32:05):
Steve Cohen.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
They're arresting people simply for the offense of being in
the country illegally.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's not right. They're mortified that we're deporting people who
are here illegally. Anyway, as far as bringing in people
who share our values, it's a fun thing to dream about.
It will never happen. Trump did a little of it.
He brought in some Africaners. Remember Africaners. Well, actually, it's
(32:31):
a good time to bring it up. What happened in Rhodesia.
It's happening already in South Africa now too, where the
ruling communist elite there they've declared that white people are
the enemy, white people are evil, and white people were
under assault over there. So in the white ones there
are called Africaners, and Trump brought a bunch of them
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over here. Notice you never hear a word from them.
Notice they're not all on welfare. Notice they never run
to the news and talk like that.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
The biggest worry of the new executive order is that
it does separate families. It doesn't create an exception for
you as citizens to have their family members be able
to come visit and celebrate milestones with them. And so
this is very cool.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
They just show up, find a job, go to work, grateful.
Who you bring in matters a lot, It matters a lot.
Every culture is not the same, Every culture is not equal.
There are disgusting third world thieving, raping, murdering cultures out
(33:37):
there all across the globe. And the number of people
you should bring into your country from those cultures is zero.
You go and keep just go murder anyone you want
in your country. You stay out of my country, but
not us Because we have a Democrat Party and Republicans
like James Langford. We've thrown open our borders and brought
these barbarians into your classroom. That's why they ate your
(34:00):
cat last week. By the way, do you have a
Burnat compact launcher yet? Because these savages are all throughout
our society. Now, don't think that you're small Midwestern towns safe. Oh,
They're going to bring eight thousand people from Haiti and
park them in your in your kids' school next week.
Do you have something that will stop a bad man
from hurting you? Does your daughter? It's really, really, really
(34:21):
important to understand how dangerous our society has become. And
Berna is legal everywhere because it's not lethal. It shoots
pepper balls or tear gas balls or kinetic rounds. It's
private security companies carry these things. Swat teams carry these things.
Burna saves lives. That's already saved lives of my listeners,
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b y Rna, Berna dot com, slash Jesse, Burna dot
com slash Jesse, and.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Now here's a headline by go you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
The thing headlines we didn't get to. Abdul o l said,
by the way, he's running for office in Michigan, not Lebanon.
I swear proposed commuting all sentences for juveniles facing life
in prison. The plan would grant early release to some
of Michigan's most violent killers. It's almost like they're trying
(35:18):
to put violent criminals back into society. No, that couldn't
be it, right, I'm sure they're just No. You've new
Canadian school rule forces kids to wear helmets to play
in the snow. Oh my gosh. I wish I could
tell my father about that. Hydrogen plays part in global warming.
According to a study, I reminded that there is no
(35:38):
global warming warming, no man cause global warming. The Earth's
weather patterns are exactly that patterns. It heats, it cools,
it does its thing. But the very idea that man
is destroying the earth is an idea that's going to
kill a couple billion people one day. Trump's marijuana move
has Democrats nervous, According to a CNN analyst, might say
(36:00):
they're paranoid. Foiled again. Fentanyl dealer shows up to court
with more drugs. Hey, that's where the criminals are. You
can hardly blame him for that. House Republican who voted
to impeach Trump in twenty twenty one won't seek reelection. Golly,
we have some freaking loser dorks. Rubio says he will
(36:21):
not run in twenty twenty eight and JD. Vance enters
the race. That is not only are they friends, that's
just a realistic acknowledgment from Rubio that Jdvans is going
to be very difficult to beat in the Republican primary.
All right, we'll be back tomorrow. I don't even know
what we're gonna do. We'll have fun, though, that's all.
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