January 16, 2025 • 37 mins
Is Scott Bessent the kind of guy we want as Treasury Secretary? Carol Roth and the state of the economy. Serving communism as the Pope. Secretary of the interior. Chasing down the Christmas light guy. Nuclear microwaves. Is there any chatter about riots for Trump’s inauguration?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show,
Final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show, which me, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Sure why we opened the final hour with that particular song, Chris,
but it's fine. I'm sure nobody noticed. All right, back
to what we were talking about. The Pope is kind
of a piece of crap. We have some news. Doug
Bergham is saying some smart things. We'll get to emails.
Hunter Biden says he lost millions in artwork. All that
(00:45):
and so much more coming up the final hour ooh ooh,
and Carol Roth is coming up like thirty minutes from now.
This Scott Descent said, a lot of smart things today,
a lot of smart things today. But kill Roth is
a bit of a cynic like I am about things.
What does she think about the incoming Treasury secretary? Because
when I hear things like this, my year's person.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
We do not have a revenue problem in the United
States of America. We have a spending problem today, as
you stated, And to be clear, this is one of
the things that got me out from behind my desk
and my quiet life in this campaign was the thought
that this spending is out of control. We are spending
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about twenty four or twenty five percent of GDP. So,
as you said, six point eight to seven percent sounds good.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Sign me up for that noise. Now I'm going to
talk about the Pope really quickly. None of my Catholic
friends seem to like this Pope. I'm not a Catholic,
so I can't. I generally don't speak on Catholic issues
because it's not my business. But I think like most
of my friends are Catholics, and they all hate the Pope,
(01:59):
every one of them. It's this Pope. And I saw
this was from PBS. He came out and said that
it's not Christian to want to build a border wall
between the US Mexico border. Isn't it funny? Though? You
can rise to the religious position of Pope the head,
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the de facto head of the Catholic Church worldwide, and
even then it's not your chief religion. Your chief religion
is communism. Cannot serve both gods, you simply cannot. And
(02:42):
it just it just struck me how often this Pope
runs his mouth from some ridiculous and don't bother pointing
out the hypocrisy of all that. Oh, I was just
in Vatican City. We went to Italy and I one
told me, you have to go see the Vatican. You
have to go see the Vatican. And it was impressed,
to put it, mildly impressive. And there were armed guards
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all over the place, no crime, no riff raff. Oh.
When we were outside waiting to get into the Vatican,
it was cold. It was well cold enough, I would say,
thirty degrees. We're outside waiting to get into the Vatican,
and in the freezing cold weather, there was a homeless
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man laying on the sidewalk begging for money with no
shoes on. I had my sorrel boots on and my
toes got a little nippy if I wasn't moving around.
Here was a homeless man right outside of the Vatican
with no shoes on. But you walk into the Vatican
and gosh, there's so much security. It was like going
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into the airport. All these security guards, all this tsa
keeping that riff raff out. You got to keep the
homeless out, you see. But why then, would why does
anyone America put up a border wall, Because in the end,
he's just a communist in a white in a white robe,
that's all. And call himself whatever he wants, he serves
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Communism always has always with us, something about that demonic religion.
Once it gets in you, it's hard to get it
out of you. Doug Bergham is going to be the
head of the Interior, which is actually a more important
thing than you think. He said some sharp stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And particularly with this AI the AI battle, people don't
understand that what's coming right now with AI revolution is
gonna happen during President Trump's term. China is uh and
this is they're already the world's largest emitter. So we're
competing against someone who's going to create more electricity, produce
more AI and and this could be how we lose
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the Cold War with them if we don't get it on.
We have to do it here. And we're a country
that believes in reclamation, we believe in following labor laws.
China child labor, no reclamation, no care about the environment.
They're tough competitor right now and in terms of their
ability to produce electricity. So we've got to get going,
and we got to cut red tape, and we got
to realize that if you shut down US energy production here,
(05:08):
it doesn't help the global environment. That's a false trade off.
Doesn't help because somebody else produces it someplace else, less
cleaner than we do.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
That's right, and you know what's going to be fascinating.
Trump was great when it came to energy first time.
It's one of the things he did really, really well.
He really cut the red tape out of that, and
he really opened it up. He sounds ten times as
committed this time to making sure America has an energy explosion.
He's not even doing the weenie gop thing that you
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hear almost all of them do. Now well, I also
like wind and solar two. Trump's out there saying, get
the freaking windmills out of everything. I'm so tired of
seeing the dumb windmills. The whales are dying. The windmills
are ugly, they don't work, they go to crap. You
can't dispose of him. Have you ever looked at one
of these windmill graveyards? Do yourself a favor. Go look
(06:00):
that up. Windmill graveyard, I believe is what I looked
up last time I saw them. You see, when the
windmills go could put, and they go could put relatively quickly,
people don't know what to do with all that stuff,
so they just have to stack them up somewhere. Yes, yes,
really and viral friendly. Anyway, Trump's done with the whole Wow.
(06:21):
I mean, I love winning and sold and when need
more clean Cole, I'll shut up. Just give us some
cheap energy.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Today America produces energy cleaner, smarter, and safer than anywhere
in the world. And when energy production is restricted in America,
it doesn't reduce demand. It just shifts productions to countries
like Russia and Iran, whose autocratic leaders not only don't
care at all about the environment, but they use their
revenues from energy sales to fund wars against US and
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our allies.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I really don't like Merrit Garland. That wasn't Merrick Garland.
I bet you're wondering how I made that transition. It's simple.
I just decided I want to talk about something else.
Merrit Garland needs to be in federal prison. Taking the
position of attorney general and using it against your political
opponents is one of the most evil things any politician
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has ever done in the history of this country. And yes,
I consider him a politician. To have that kind of
power and to use it willingly on your political opponents
that should be serious prison time. That's equivalent to one
of these daycare workers abusing kids. To be put into
(07:43):
a position of power like that and to use that
position of power to abuse Republicans, he's got to go
to prison. Yeah, I heard him say this.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
We have reaffirmed and strengthened the norms that safeguard the
Justice departments independence and integrity. Principle among those norms is
that we treat like cases alike. That there is not
one set of laws for the powerful and another for
the powerless, not one for the rich and another for
the poor, not one for democrats and another for Republicans.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Remember what we talked about, how the Communist lies all
the time, big, brazen, in your face lies without end
because people believing lies is the only chance he has
to get power, to keep power without it. If he
was ever forced to be honest about the things he
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wants and the things he's done, he would be removed
from power immediately. So for the Communist, lying isn't something
he does, it is a requirement. It is who he is.
Lie about everything all the time. Does it matter how
easily verifiable the lie is? Just lost? How much is
(09:01):
a stake right? Now, the existential threat of climate change
has never been clear.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Just look across the country from California to North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Jesse. In the past, you've expressed interest in conversing with
ghostly apparitions that people are seeing. But if you considered
you that they might be more afraid of you than
you would be of them. After all, you've mentioned on
national radio that if a strange man wearing a wife
beater knocked on your front door, you'd have a firearm ready.
(09:35):
So with that in mind, I'd have to assume that
they might just be a little squeamish about getting shot at.
Perhaps that's why you've been left alone for so long.
Well to clarify it, I don't answer the door with
a gun just because somebody's wearing a wife beater or
looks shady. I answer that a door my door with
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a gun all the time. If you come to my
front door and you knock or ring it, I have
a gun. In fact, if I catch you outside of
my house and you're not supposed to be, I will
approach you with a firearm. Remember when I scared Remember
I told you that story about scaring the living daylights
out of the Christmas lights guy. We had somebody. Finally,
(10:18):
OB talk to me and they letting somebody do Christmas lights.
He put them up professionally. He puts them up, takes off,
decides he's gonna come back, like nine o'clock at night
to take pictures of it for his website advertising. Well,
the call didn't get through to Ob to let her
know she was coming. I look out the window and
someone's parked in front of my car with the camera.
(10:40):
Let me tell you what, Jack, that man knows fear now,
I'll tell you that much. He knows fear. I came
out of there with my weapon at the ready. He
knows fear now. Maybe it's the chalk. Maybe it's all
the testosterone. I bet that's what it is. Maybe I
wouldn't be like this if I had Mike Johnson levels
of testosterone. It's the chalk. When you're full of energy,
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(11:45):
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like this one China tests a one gigawatt microwave weapon
with a nuclear bomb like intensity. We used to have
a microwave like that at work. Now hear me out.
I something broke at the factory with these things, You
know how? What's something? Everybody microwaves Totino's pizza roles. No
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one takes the time to put those in the oven
because you wanted to be a little bit, a little
bit squishy like that. So you nukem well, a normal
nuke time for a Totino's pizza role forty five seconds,
I would say, ah, maybe a minute. Sometimes, I kid
you not fifteen seconds and it's shooting out the sides
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of the pizza roles, the liquid hot magma that's inside
of those things. So look, I know all about what
China's doing right now. I've had a microwave like that
in the past, Jesse. With the inauguration coming up, is
there any chatter or reports of protests being planned by
the lefties? It's very quiet right now, and I anticipated
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being very quiet right now. Remember, the communist understands what
fear and pain. We talk about that, Okay, so let's
take that a little bit further. What they attempted to
do for Donald Trump or to Donald Trump over the
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last four years, it was significant, it was evil, and
they took a huge chance. Now, communists don't think about
that chances, you know, it's a big risk. They don't
think in those terms. They're just demons all the ways, eating,
always moving forward. But it went well beyond normal politics
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here in America when you have multiple Communists in different
jurisdictions around the country trying to throw the Republican nominee
in prison. Ah and by the way, they tried to
blow his head off twice. The FBI is rifling through
your wife's underwear drawer. You have crossed the boundaries of
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anything remotely normal at all. You have gone down a dark,
dark path. If that's what Democrats did the last four years, Now,
what's that resulted in? A completely different Donald Trump? The happy,
go lucky I just want to get along with everybody
Donald Trump. That Trump is not the Trump I'm seeing anymore.
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The Trump I'm seeing now has a hard edge to him.
Did you see his new presidential I don't want to
say portrait, his new presidential picture. He looks like he's
ready to headbut some nobody's teeth out. He's talked a lot. Normally, politicians,
including Trump, will soften a lot of the rhetoric, especially
after a primary or even after the general election. Bow Wow, Bow,
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we're all gonna get along. You've heard none of that,
not much of that from Donald Trump at all. What
has taken place with the street animals in this country
has always been organized and funded from Saint George Floyd's
look you pick it. It's always organized and funded by billionaires,
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by these big left wing organizations sorrows, this soorrostad. They've
organized and fund all the street animal activity. You see.
The incoming administration is sending signals out there they intend
to dig into this stuff. I have said before just
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a but you will not see another significant of course,
they're gonna be the animals dancing in the streets now,
and then you won't see another significant street protest activity
until they try to rev one up during mass deportation.
That's when they're gonna wait for an opportunity. And then
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as soon as Loupez starts crying on camera about getting
deported with their eighty seven kids, then they're gonna start
handing out the checks, start organizing on social media, and
the street animals will be out in the streets. Ah no,
we won't go you know, all the stupid chance and
things like that. As far as for the inauguration goes.
(16:42):
Don't you get the impression they're all keeping their head
down right now? The FBI announced two hours ago, well
like three hours ago, that they're shutting the DEI office
corporations across America. We're done with this DEI stuff. Hey,
We're finished up on all this stuff. You are going
to see them keeping their heads down for the foreseeable future.
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I don't know how long. It won't last forever. They
are all the same evil people who want all the
same evil things, but a lot of power has been
ripped away from them. And this Donald Trump doesn't look
like the last one. The last one staffed his entire
administration with swamp creature after swamp creature, and the system
knew it had good friends still in high places. This
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Donald Trump's putting RFK in charge of the FDA. This
Donald Trump is taking the most one of the loudest
anti FBI crusaders on our side, Cash Patel, and putting
him in charge of the FBI. The last guy is gone.
Maybe he disappeared when he got shot in the ear.
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Maybe he disappeared when they were taking mug shot pictures
of him in Georgia. But whatever that last Trump was,
he's gone. And I'm glad We're all going to be
a lot better for it, all right, Carol Roth, that's
going to talk to us about this Scott Bessent guy
Treasury secretary. I was pretty impressed, but I'm not familiar
(18:09):
with him. She is what she think about him. Carol
doesn't like anybody well, we'll talk to Kirol Roth about
that next. Before we talk to Carol Roth, Let's talk
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(19:40):
Show and rap music can only mean one thing. That
means Carol Roth is joining us now to put us
all in a deep state of depression about the sorry
state of the economy. Carol, why is inflation getting hotter?
What can we expect from this next Treasury secretary? Tell
me something good or bat.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Well. The bad news is that our fiscal foundation is
on very shaky ground. We've been hurling in that direction
for quite a while, but the Biden administration has accelerated
that to the point of no return. I call it
we have four horsemen of the financial apocalypse, which I'll
tell you about in a second. The good news is
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that Trump has a fabulous nominee for Treasury Secretary that
understands all of these challenges and will be sophisticated enough
to try to navigate that. The bad news, again is
it's going to be very challenging to try to navigate it.
So that's kind of the lay of the land. I
call this four horsemen of the financial apocalypse. If you
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look at the amount of debt we have as it
relates to GDP, we have exceeded the entire output of
the country one hundred percent plus another twenty percent, so
one hundred and twenty percent debt to GDP. If we
were trying to run the Reagan playbook, you have to
remember that in nineteen eighty our debt to GDP was
like at thirty percent, So we're four times more and
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at about double you know where it becomes sort of unwielding.
Then we have deficits to GDP that are at wartime
levels when we're during an economic expansion, which is insane.
Again during when Reagan came into office, that was like
two point seven percent. Then we have all of these
foreign holders of assets. They own a lot of treasuries,
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they own stock, they own real estate, which means anytime
they need to raise dollars that puts pressure on whatever
asset class it is that they own. And we have
a very strong dollar. So with those things together, anything
that a rational person would try to do that Reagan
era playbook is going to be met with a set
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of constraints that could potentially send us into a massive
debt spiral and crash the global economy. And that's why
this is so challenging. But at least we have somebody
in there that is going to recognize those challenges.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay, so what does a debt death spiral for the planet.
What does that look like, Carol, Because I mean, everyone
knows about the Great Depression, or at least they know,
you know, the headlines are the Great Depression, but most
people don't realize that bled over into Europe. As America goes,
so goes the world. So talk about that.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean, we're the world's reserve currency. Still, we're
still the trading currency. There are a lot of entities
that have their debt that is denominated in dollars, including
emerging market economies. We have, you know, commodities around the world,
whether it be oil or food, things that people need
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to survive that are denominated in dollars. So the question
becomes for me, I don't think that when you have
somebody that's savvy, they're going to let this happen. The
question is are they going to come in and do
something thing prescriptively upfront, or are we going to see
the treasury market start to break, there be some kind
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of initial panic and then quickly you know, there are
measures taken. The challenge, Jesse is that obviously there needs
to be a release valve somewhere. You can't, you know,
plug the dam and not expect that there's going to
be something else that breaks somewhere else. So the release
valve that probably happens, which you could come in a
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bunch of different flavors, ultimately probably leads to more inflation.
And that is why you have seen the Democrats for
more than six months now setting that stage. Inflation's starting
to repercolate, and they see the direction it's going because
of the fiscal situation, because of the fiscal dominance, based
on the deficits and the debts and all those things
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I talked about, and so they have been prepping to say, oh, see,
we told you that Trump's policies are going to create inflation,
when it's very much the fact that Trump's policies are
hamstrung by the fiscal foundation and all of these things
that happened under the Biden administration.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Okay, so Trump's plan, obviously, percent talked about this a
bit today, but Trump has been talking about it a lot,
is to grow out of it as much as humanly possible,
take the shackles off the economy, the energy sector, and
hopefully we can grow our way out of it. Does
that sound I'm thrilled about that, But does that sound
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realistic or is that pie in the sky to think
you can grow your way out of a debthole this.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Deep Well, there is a path forward, and it's a
very narrow tight rope because anything that you do on
the growth front needs to add to the GDP without subtracting.
So if they try to doge and do all these
deficit reductions and grow the GDP when we know that
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the government spending has been propping up the GDP, that
is going to be a challenge. They've talked about the
fact that maybe produce more oil will create growth. Well,
we know that oil is much constrained by pricing that
our WTI producers need I think somewhere around sixty five
dollars a barrel in order just to be able to
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break even, and then to create investments it needs to
be much higher. And then you have the dollar strength piece,
so you have to do this all in a way
that doesn't over strengthen the dollar, and then have people
trying to raise more dollars by selling their treasury security.
So everything is very much interconnected. Again, we have really
smart people, so hopefully he can find a way to
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do that, but it's going to take some different out
of the box thinking. One of the things that he
did say, Scott Vessant, the Treasury Secretary nominee, in a
discussion he had with the Manhattan Institute over the summer,
is that he could see something like a revisited Plaza accord,
the mar A Lago accord, I think they called it,
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where they sit down much like happened, you know, in
the past, and try to kind of renegotiate what the
currency looks like, viasa, the other currencies in the world
to give them some space in order to be able
to make some of these changes. So that's something we
could see happen overnight. You could see a gold revaluation overnight.
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One of the other things that I've heard floated most
recently by Bank of America is that, you know, maybe
they let people tap the equity in their house to
buy treasuries and you give them some great value on that,
so that you know, homeowners can be the loner to
the Treasury and we at least have somebody for some
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period of time to be able to finance our debt
because they're thirty five trillion dollars in equity in home.
So there is the kind of odd out of the
box things that are going to happen. The question is, again,
does that happen proactively or do we see things go
crazy first and then quickly they come in and have
to change path. And knowing politics, my guess is things
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have to break first at least a little bit before
they come in. But when you say, you know, hey,
I thought we're worried about inflation. You know, why is
the Fed now intervening like this? It's going to be
because we have no other choice. That's the choice we're
left with. And so everybody here should buckle up for
things in their life to be more expensive on an
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ongoing basis. It's not because of Trump policy. It's because
of this this you know, situation that we're in.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Okay, well that was all pretty much horrific. But you
are impressed with Scott Piscent though that You sound like
you think highly this guy, which is impressive because you
don't think highly of very many people.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
I don't think highia of that anyone other than you
and Scott passened obviously he is he is. He's a
really sharp guy. He is not only an economic historian,
but he has Wall Street expertise, He has expertise in
advising central banks. He understands the currency machinations. So there
are other smart people who are in the Trump administration
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who are going to understand a piece of the puzzle.
But in terms of the depth and breadth, like we
dodged a huge bullet here. This is a really really
savvy smart person who is you know, in this role.
You know, whether or not between Treasury, the Fed, Trump Doge,
all of these different folks at the table Congress, you
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know this is going to go cleanly. That's you know,
another thing. But at least you know we're not relying on,
you know, somebody like Janet Yellen who tells us there's
not going to be any inflation. It's going to be
transitory and it's going to be good for you. And
breadlines are a great way to meet your neighbor and
all that kind of stuff. So we have a really good, sound,
smart person. The other thing I will tell you, Jesse,
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that made me very happy and it should make your
listeners very happy, is you know. In prior remarks as
well as during his confirmation hearing testimony today, he talked
a lot about main Street meaning to win. He said,
Wall Street's done well. We need a main Street lad recovery.
We need main Street for growth. So to have somebody
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in that position that isn't just a Wall Street stuck up,
who understands that small business is the life blood and
backbone of this economy is a very exciting thing. And
again hopefully the policies will end up reflecting it, because
there's a lot of people at the table, but to
have somebody at the table who really gets that is
(29:44):
very refreshing.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Fingers crossed, Carol Roth, you are the best. Come back.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Great to Doug, to you all right.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We only have one more segment left until tomorrow, so
don't cry, but it'll be great. Hang on, you're listening
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I cannot wait until tomorrow. I can't wait until Monday.
Inauguration days coming. Let's clear out a couple of these
emails before we do headlines and some other things. Benddo Jesse.
What is the code of radio talk show hosts when
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it comes to using nicknames that originated from other talk
show hosts. I've been disappointed that you've never used Rush
Limbaugh's name for Flimsy Lindsey Graham, Lindsey Grahamnesty. I don't
think it would be plagiarism. I think Rush would be honored,
says his name is Dave Well. I like Flimsy Graham.
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I like Lindsey Grahamnesty as well. I would have no problem.
I don't think I would have any problem copying something
Rush did. I mean, he's the freaking greatest, right but
it it feels maybe a little bit gross. What Chris what?
(31:20):
That's a good Yeah, that's kind of what Chris said.
I want to do my own thing, though.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
That's really why I don't listen to anyone else. I
don't consume right wing media really in any way anymore
now that I do it. I don't watch it. I
don't listen to it. If I listen to things, it's
almost always history related of some kind. I don't do
any politics now because I'm worried. I'm worried about being
(31:47):
someone else's voice. It's human nature to copy the things
you hear someone else say. And I want this show
to be different. We always wanted it to be different.
We didn't want it to sound like everyone else's show.
And that's why I don't use the other nicknames. I
don't even know what they're saying. I I have no idea.
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They could all be trashing me all day long for
all I know. I don't care. Like I said, I
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Hillsdale dot edu slash Jesse. All right, dear makeup Whisper.
You know that's not nice. Okay, I'm a huge fan.
I've been listening to your show daily for the last
few years. I even't got to meet you at your
books signing and shook your small hand. Not nice. You
mentioned how the FBI has been cooking the books relating
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to crime stats. I can assure you that this is
happening throughout the country. I retired from one of the
top ten largest law enforcement agencies in the US after
thirty years. Our agency counted auto burglaries as one case,
even if dozens of cars in the same neighborhood were
broken into. This has happened to my entire career, amongst
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other crimes. The government is lie to us all. Keep
up the good fight, devil dog Well. Police agencies always
always travel down river, downstream from the politics of whatever
area they're in. We want to imagine because we respect
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people who put their lives on the line, lives on
the line cops and things like that. We want to
imagine that they can keep that filth out of it.
Like NYPD is a good example of this. Who doesn't
admire the NYPD. NYPD's admired around the world, and because
it has been so admired, and especially in the wake
of nine to eleven, we all liked to imagine that
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all the left wing wacko craziness of New York City.
Surely it wouldn't bleed into the Boys and Blue. Of
course it did. It's a disaster down there now that
takes place everywhere, and when it comes to federal law
enforcement gets even worse because all these people get to
these appointed positions because this president or this senator or
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this guy wants them there. So if you're some filthy
communist and you want you want the border open, and yeah,
you know there's a bunch of rapists and murderers who
are gonna come across the border, but still you're a
dirty communist, so you want the border open. Well, what
do you do about that? If the crime stats are
gonna go up because your border gets open, that makes
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you look bad. So what do you do? You simply
get someone into place at the FBI, who's gonna cook
the books and go out there and say things like, Wow, i'
mean crime's definitely down. We're the FBI. We did in
an analysis of this, and crime is definitely down. Of course,
crime is not down at all. Crime is way, way,
way up. The highest crime areas in the country simply
(35:52):
stopped reporting to the FBI. The FBI knows this, but
because they're filthy communists who only work for Democrats, they
ran to the podium and told you crime is down.
Look at our statistics. We want to imagine things like
the military and the fire department and the police department,
because these are professions we admire. We want to imagine
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they can remain insulated from communist filth no matter where
they are, and that is simply naive. It is one
of the most important positions you should consider running for,
or at least take an interest in. Is sheriff. Don't
I don't talk about that enough. Sheriff. Sheriff is a
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critically important position, really honestly, probably the most important position
on a long enough timeline. Do you want somebody who's
going to, instead of working with the FBI, to kick
in your door and gun you down in the middle
of the night. Do you want somebody who will maybe say, no,
you can't come into my county. And if you do,
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all arrest you, well, that happens at the sheriff's office.
Consider running for sheriff, all right. Also consider this, I
went on too long there and I did. I don't
actually have time to get to headlines. I mean, I
guess we could play the thing is and now here's.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
A headline, but you know that, you know the.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Thing headlines we didn't get to. That's all.
This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show,
Final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show, which me, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Sure why we opened the final hour with that particular song, Chris,
but it's fine. I'm sure nobody noticed. All right, back
to what we were talking about. The Pope is kind
of a piece of crap. We have some news. Doug
Bergham is saying some smart things. We'll get to emails.
Hunter Biden says he lost millions in artwork. All that
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and so much more coming up the final hour ooh ooh,
and Carol Roth is coming up like thirty minutes from now.
This Scott Descent said, a lot of smart things today,
a lot of smart things today. But kill Roth is
a bit of a cynic like I am about things.
What does she think about the incoming Treasury secretary? Because
when I hear things like this, my year's person.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
We do not have a revenue problem in the United
States of America. We have a spending problem today, as
you stated, And to be clear, this is one of
the things that got me out from behind my desk
and my quiet life in this campaign was the thought
that this spending is out of control. We are spending
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about twenty four or twenty five percent of GDP. So,
as you said, six point eight to seven percent sounds good.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Sign me up for that noise. Now I'm going to
talk about the Pope really quickly. None of my Catholic
friends seem to like this Pope. I'm not a Catholic,
so I can't. I generally don't speak on Catholic issues
because it's not my business. But I think like most
of my friends are Catholics, and they all hate the Pope,
(01:59):
every one of them. It's this Pope. And I saw
this was from PBS. He came out and said that
it's not Christian to want to build a border wall
between the US Mexico border. Isn't it funny? Though? You
can rise to the religious position of Pope the head,
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the de facto head of the Catholic Church worldwide, and
even then it's not your chief religion. Your chief religion
is communism. Cannot serve both gods, you simply cannot. And
(02:42):
it just it just struck me how often this Pope
runs his mouth from some ridiculous and don't bother pointing
out the hypocrisy of all that. Oh, I was just
in Vatican City. We went to Italy and I one
told me, you have to go see the Vatican. You
have to go see the Vatican. And it was impressed,
to put it, mildly impressive. And there were armed guards
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all over the place, no crime, no riff raff. Oh.
When we were outside waiting to get into the Vatican,
it was cold. It was well cold enough, I would say,
thirty degrees. We're outside waiting to get into the Vatican,
and in the freezing cold weather, there was a homeless
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man laying on the sidewalk begging for money with no
shoes on. I had my sorrel boots on and my
toes got a little nippy if I wasn't moving around.
Here was a homeless man right outside of the Vatican
with no shoes on. But you walk into the Vatican
and gosh, there's so much security. It was like going
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into the airport. All these security guards, all this tsa
keeping that riff raff out. You got to keep the
homeless out, you see. But why then, would why does
anyone America put up a border wall, Because in the end,
he's just a communist in a white in a white robe,
that's all. And call himself whatever he wants, he serves
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Communism always has always with us, something about that demonic religion.
Once it gets in you, it's hard to get it
out of you. Doug Bergham is going to be the
head of the Interior, which is actually a more important
thing than you think. He said some sharp stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And particularly with this AI the AI battle, people don't
understand that what's coming right now with AI revolution is
gonna happen during President Trump's term. China is uh and
this is they're already the world's largest emitter. So we're
competing against someone who's going to create more electricity, produce
more AI and and this could be how we lose
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the Cold War with them if we don't get it on.
We have to do it here. And we're a country
that believes in reclamation, we believe in following labor laws.
China child labor, no reclamation, no care about the environment.
They're tough competitor right now and in terms of their
ability to produce electricity. So we've got to get going,
and we got to cut red tape, and we got
to realize that if you shut down US energy production here,
(05:08):
it doesn't help the global environment. That's a false trade off.
Doesn't help because somebody else produces it someplace else, less
cleaner than we do.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
That's right, and you know what's going to be fascinating.
Trump was great when it came to energy first time.
It's one of the things he did really, really well.
He really cut the red tape out of that, and
he really opened it up. He sounds ten times as
committed this time to making sure America has an energy explosion.
He's not even doing the weenie gop thing that you
(05:39):
hear almost all of them do. Now well, I also
like wind and solar two. Trump's out there saying, get
the freaking windmills out of everything. I'm so tired of
seeing the dumb windmills. The whales are dying. The windmills
are ugly, they don't work, they go to crap. You
can't dispose of him. Have you ever looked at one
of these windmill graveyards? Do yourself a favor. Go look
(06:00):
that up. Windmill graveyard, I believe is what I looked
up last time I saw them. You see, when the
windmills go could put, and they go could put relatively quickly,
people don't know what to do with all that stuff,
so they just have to stack them up somewhere. Yes, yes,
really and viral friendly. Anyway, Trump's done with the whole Wow.
(06:21):
I mean, I love winning and sold and when need
more clean Cole, I'll shut up. Just give us some
cheap energy.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Today America produces energy cleaner, smarter, and safer than anywhere
in the world. And when energy production is restricted in America,
it doesn't reduce demand. It just shifts productions to countries
like Russia and Iran, whose autocratic leaders not only don't
care at all about the environment, but they use their
revenues from energy sales to fund wars against US and
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our allies.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I really don't like Merrit Garland. That wasn't Merrick Garland.
I bet you're wondering how I made that transition. It's simple.
I just decided I want to talk about something else.
Merrit Garland needs to be in federal prison. Taking the
position of attorney general and using it against your political
opponents is one of the most evil things any politician
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has ever done in the history of this country. And yes,
I consider him a politician. To have that kind of
power and to use it willingly on your political opponents
that should be serious prison time. That's equivalent to one
of these daycare workers abusing kids. To be put into
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a position of power like that and to use that
position of power to abuse Republicans, he's got to go
to prison. Yeah, I heard him say this.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
We have reaffirmed and strengthened the norms that safeguard the
Justice departments independence and integrity. Principle among those norms is
that we treat like cases alike. That there is not
one set of laws for the powerful and another for
the powerless, not one for the rich and another for
the poor, not one for democrats and another for Republicans.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Remember what we talked about, how the Communist lies all
the time, big, brazen, in your face lies without end
because people believing lies is the only chance he has
to get power, to keep power without it. If he
was ever forced to be honest about the things he
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wants and the things he's done, he would be removed
from power immediately. So for the Communist, lying isn't something
he does, it is a requirement. It is who he is.
Lie about everything all the time. Does it matter how
easily verifiable the lie is? Just lost? How much is
(09:01):
a stake right? Now, the existential threat of climate change
has never been clear.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Just look across the country from California to North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Jesse. In the past, you've expressed interest in conversing with
ghostly apparitions that people are seeing. But if you considered
you that they might be more afraid of you than
you would be of them. After all, you've mentioned on
national radio that if a strange man wearing a wife
beater knocked on your front door, you'd have a firearm ready.
(09:35):
So with that in mind, I'd have to assume that
they might just be a little squeamish about getting shot at.
Perhaps that's why you've been left alone for so long.
Well to clarify it, I don't answer the door with
a gun just because somebody's wearing a wife beater or
looks shady. I answer that a door my door with
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a gun all the time. If you come to my
front door and you knock or ring it, I have
a gun. In fact, if I catch you outside of
my house and you're not supposed to be, I will
approach you with a firearm. Remember when I scared Remember
I told you that story about scaring the living daylights
out of the Christmas lights guy. We had somebody. Finally,
(10:18):
OB talk to me and they letting somebody do Christmas lights.
He put them up professionally. He puts them up, takes off,
decides he's gonna come back, like nine o'clock at night
to take pictures of it for his website advertising. Well,
the call didn't get through to Ob to let her
know she was coming. I look out the window and
someone's parked in front of my car with the camera.
(10:40):
Let me tell you what, Jack, that man knows fear now,
I'll tell you that much. He knows fear. I came
out of there with my weapon at the ready. He
knows fear now. Maybe it's the chalk. Maybe it's all
the testosterone. I bet that's what it is. Maybe I
wouldn't be like this if I had Mike Johnson levels
of testosterone. It's the chalk. When you're full of energy,
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(12:06):
like this one China tests a one gigawatt microwave weapon
with a nuclear bomb like intensity. We used to have
a microwave like that at work. Now hear me out.
I something broke at the factory with these things, You
know how? What's something? Everybody microwaves Totino's pizza roles. No
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one takes the time to put those in the oven
because you wanted to be a little bit, a little
bit squishy like that. So you nukem well, a normal
nuke time for a Totino's pizza role forty five seconds,
I would say, ah, maybe a minute. Sometimes, I kid
you not fifteen seconds and it's shooting out the sides
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of the pizza roles, the liquid hot magma that's inside
of those things. So look, I know all about what
China's doing right now. I've had a microwave like that
in the past, Jesse. With the inauguration coming up, is
there any chatter or reports of protests being planned by
the lefties? It's very quiet right now, and I anticipated
(13:20):
being very quiet right now. Remember, the communist understands what
fear and pain. We talk about that, Okay, so let's
take that a little bit further. What they attempted to
do for Donald Trump or to Donald Trump over the
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last four years, it was significant, it was evil, and
they took a huge chance. Now, communists don't think about
that chances, you know, it's a big risk. They don't
think in those terms. They're just demons all the ways, eating,
always moving forward. But it went well beyond normal politics
(14:06):
here in America when you have multiple Communists in different
jurisdictions around the country trying to throw the Republican nominee
in prison. Ah and by the way, they tried to
blow his head off twice. The FBI is rifling through
your wife's underwear drawer. You have crossed the boundaries of
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anything remotely normal at all. You have gone down a dark,
dark path. If that's what Democrats did the last four years, Now,
what's that resulted in? A completely different Donald Trump? The happy,
go lucky I just want to get along with everybody
Donald Trump. That Trump is not the Trump I'm seeing anymore.
(14:49):
The Trump I'm seeing now has a hard edge to him.
Did you see his new presidential I don't want to
say portrait, his new presidential picture. He looks like he's
ready to headbut some nobody's teeth out. He's talked a lot. Normally, politicians,
including Trump, will soften a lot of the rhetoric, especially
after a primary or even after the general election. Bow Wow, Bow,
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we're all gonna get along. You've heard none of that,
not much of that from Donald Trump at all. What
has taken place with the street animals in this country
has always been organized and funded from Saint George Floyd's
look you pick it. It's always organized and funded by billionaires,
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by these big left wing organizations sorrows, this soorrostad. They've
organized and fund all the street animal activity. You see.
The incoming administration is sending signals out there they intend
to dig into this stuff. I have said before just
(15:59):
a but you will not see another significant of course,
they're gonna be the animals dancing in the streets now,
and then you won't see another significant street protest activity
until they try to rev one up during mass deportation.
That's when they're gonna wait for an opportunity. And then
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as soon as Loupez starts crying on camera about getting
deported with their eighty seven kids, then they're gonna start
handing out the checks, start organizing on social media, and
the street animals will be out in the streets. Ah no,
we won't go you know, all the stupid chance and
things like that. As far as for the inauguration goes.
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Don't you get the impression they're all keeping their head
down right now? The FBI announced two hours ago, well
like three hours ago, that they're shutting the DEI office
corporations across America. We're done with this DEI stuff. Hey,
We're finished up on all this stuff. You are going
to see them keeping their heads down for the foreseeable future.
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I don't know how long. It won't last forever. They
are all the same evil people who want all the
same evil things, but a lot of power has been
ripped away from them. And this Donald Trump doesn't look
like the last one. The last one staffed his entire
administration with swamp creature after swamp creature, and the system
knew it had good friends still in high places. This
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Donald Trump's putting RFK in charge of the FDA. This
Donald Trump is taking the most one of the loudest
anti FBI crusaders on our side, Cash Patel, and putting
him in charge of the FBI. The last guy is gone.
Maybe he disappeared when he got shot in the ear.
(17:49):
Maybe he disappeared when they were taking mug shot pictures
of him in Georgia. But whatever that last Trump was,
he's gone. And I'm glad We're all going to be
a lot better for it, all right, Carol Roth, that's
going to talk to us about this Scott Bessent guy
Treasury secretary. I was pretty impressed, but I'm not familiar
(18:09):
with him. She is what she think about him. Carol
doesn't like anybody well, we'll talk to Kirol Roth about
that next. Before we talk to Carol Roth, Let's talk
about just some basics safety, something we all want. We
want to be safe, we want our loved ones to
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Show and rap music can only mean one thing. That
means Carol Roth is joining us now to put us
all in a deep state of depression about the sorry
state of the economy. Carol, why is inflation getting hotter?
What can we expect from this next Treasury secretary? Tell
me something good or bat.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Well. The bad news is that our fiscal foundation is
on very shaky ground. We've been hurling in that direction
for quite a while, but the Biden administration has accelerated
that to the point of no return. I call it
we have four horsemen of the financial apocalypse, which I'll
tell you about in a second. The good news is
(20:21):
that Trump has a fabulous nominee for Treasury Secretary that
understands all of these challenges and will be sophisticated enough
to try to navigate that. The bad news, again is
it's going to be very challenging to try to navigate it.
So that's kind of the lay of the land. I
call this four horsemen of the financial apocalypse. If you
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look at the amount of debt we have as it
relates to GDP, we have exceeded the entire output of
the country one hundred percent plus another twenty percent, so
one hundred and twenty percent debt to GDP. If we
were trying to run the Reagan playbook, you have to
remember that in nineteen eighty our debt to GDP was
like at thirty percent, So we're four times more and
(21:05):
at about double you know where it becomes sort of unwielding.
Then we have deficits to GDP that are at wartime
levels when we're during an economic expansion, which is insane.
Again during when Reagan came into office, that was like
two point seven percent. Then we have all of these
foreign holders of assets. They own a lot of treasuries,
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they own stock, they own real estate, which means anytime
they need to raise dollars that puts pressure on whatever
asset class it is that they own. And we have
a very strong dollar. So with those things together, anything
that a rational person would try to do that Reagan
era playbook is going to be met with a set
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of constraints that could potentially send us into a massive
debt spiral and crash the global economy. And that's why
this is so challenging. But at least we have somebody
in there that is going to recognize those challenges.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay, so what does a debt death spiral for the planet.
What does that look like, Carol, Because I mean, everyone
knows about the Great Depression, or at least they know,
you know, the headlines are the Great Depression, but most
people don't realize that bled over into Europe. As America goes,
so goes the world. So talk about that.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean, we're the world's reserve currency. Still, we're
still the trading currency. There are a lot of entities
that have their debt that is denominated in dollars, including
emerging market economies. We have, you know, commodities around the world,
whether it be oil or food, things that people need
(22:46):
to survive that are denominated in dollars. So the question
becomes for me, I don't think that when you have
somebody that's savvy, they're going to let this happen. The
question is are they going to come in and do
something thing prescriptively upfront, or are we going to see
the treasury market start to break, there be some kind
(23:08):
of initial panic and then quickly you know, there are
measures taken. The challenge, Jesse is that obviously there needs
to be a release valve somewhere. You can't, you know,
plug the dam and not expect that there's going to
be something else that breaks somewhere else. So the release
valve that probably happens, which you could come in a
(23:29):
bunch of different flavors, ultimately probably leads to more inflation.
And that is why you have seen the Democrats for
more than six months now setting that stage. Inflation's starting
to repercolate, and they see the direction it's going because
of the fiscal situation, because of the fiscal dominance, based
on the deficits and the debts and all those things
(23:51):
I talked about, and so they have been prepping to say, oh, see,
we told you that Trump's policies are going to create inflation,
when it's very much the fact that Trump's policies are
hamstrung by the fiscal foundation and all of these things
that happened under the Biden administration.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Okay, so Trump's plan, obviously, percent talked about this a
bit today, but Trump has been talking about it a lot,
is to grow out of it as much as humanly possible,
take the shackles off the economy, the energy sector, and
hopefully we can grow our way out of it. Does
that sound I'm thrilled about that, But does that sound
(24:31):
realistic or is that pie in the sky to think
you can grow your way out of a debthole this.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Deep Well, there is a path forward, and it's a
very narrow tight rope because anything that you do on
the growth front needs to add to the GDP without subtracting.
So if they try to doge and do all these
deficit reductions and grow the GDP when we know that
(25:00):
the government spending has been propping up the GDP, that
is going to be a challenge. They've talked about the
fact that maybe produce more oil will create growth. Well,
we know that oil is much constrained by pricing that
our WTI producers need I think somewhere around sixty five
dollars a barrel in order just to be able to
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break even, and then to create investments it needs to
be much higher. And then you have the dollar strength piece,
so you have to do this all in a way
that doesn't over strengthen the dollar, and then have people
trying to raise more dollars by selling their treasury security.
So everything is very much interconnected. Again, we have really
smart people, so hopefully he can find a way to
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do that, but it's going to take some different out
of the box thinking. One of the things that he
did say, Scott Vessant, the Treasury Secretary nominee, in a
discussion he had with the Manhattan Institute over the summer,
is that he could see something like a revisited Plaza accord,
the mar A Lago accord, I think they called it,
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where they sit down much like happened, you know, in
the past, and try to kind of renegotiate what the
currency looks like, viasa, the other currencies in the world
to give them some space in order to be able
to make some of these changes. So that's something we
could see happen overnight. You could see a gold revaluation overnight.
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One of the other things that I've heard floated most
recently by Bank of America is that, you know, maybe
they let people tap the equity in their house to
buy treasuries and you give them some great value on that,
so that you know, homeowners can be the loner to
the Treasury and we at least have somebody for some
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period of time to be able to finance our debt
because they're thirty five trillion dollars in equity in home.
So there is the kind of odd out of the
box things that are going to happen. The question is, again,
does that happen proactively or do we see things go
crazy first and then quickly they come in and have
to change path. And knowing politics, my guess is things
(27:17):
have to break first at least a little bit before
they come in. But when you say, you know, hey,
I thought we're worried about inflation. You know, why is
the Fed now intervening like this? It's going to be
because we have no other choice. That's the choice we're
left with. And so everybody here should buckle up for
things in their life to be more expensive on an
(27:38):
ongoing basis. It's not because of Trump policy. It's because
of this this you know, situation that we're in.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Okay, well that was all pretty much horrific. But you
are impressed with Scott Piscent though that You sound like
you think highly this guy, which is impressive because you
don't think highly of very many people.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
I don't think highia of that anyone other than you
and Scott passened obviously he is he is. He's a
really sharp guy. He is not only an economic historian,
but he has Wall Street expertise, He has expertise in
advising central banks. He understands the currency machinations. So there
are other smart people who are in the Trump administration
(28:18):
who are going to understand a piece of the puzzle.
But in terms of the depth and breadth, like we
dodged a huge bullet here. This is a really really
savvy smart person who is you know, in this role.
You know, whether or not between Treasury, the Fed, Trump Doge,
all of these different folks at the table Congress, you
(28:40):
know this is going to go cleanly. That's you know,
another thing. But at least you know we're not relying on,
you know, somebody like Janet Yellen who tells us there's
not going to be any inflation. It's going to be
transitory and it's going to be good for you. And
breadlines are a great way to meet your neighbor and
all that kind of stuff. So we have a really good, sound,
smart person. The other thing I will tell you, Jesse,
(29:02):
that made me very happy and it should make your
listeners very happy, is you know. In prior remarks as
well as during his confirmation hearing testimony today, he talked
a lot about main Street meaning to win. He said,
Wall Street's done well. We need a main Street lad recovery.
We need main Street for growth. So to have somebody
(29:23):
in that position that isn't just a Wall Street stuck up,
who understands that small business is the life blood and
backbone of this economy is a very exciting thing. And
again hopefully the policies will end up reflecting it, because
there's a lot of people at the table, but to
have somebody at the table who really gets that is
(29:44):
very refreshing.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Fingers crossed, Carol Roth, you are the best. Come back.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Great to Doug, to you all right.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We only have one more segment left until tomorrow, so
don't cry, but it'll be great. Hang on, you're listening
to the Jesse Kelly Show. You're welcome. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show. Final segment of The Jesse Kelly Show
on a Thursday. Remember, if you missed any part of
(30:15):
the show, you can download the whole thing on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes.
I cannot wait until tomorrow. I can't wait until Monday.
Inauguration days coming. Let's clear out a couple of these
emails before we do headlines and some other things. Benddo Jesse.
What is the code of radio talk show hosts when
(30:35):
it comes to using nicknames that originated from other talk
show hosts. I've been disappointed that you've never used Rush
Limbaugh's name for Flimsy Lindsey Graham, Lindsey Grahamnesty. I don't
think it would be plagiarism. I think Rush would be honored,
says his name is Dave Well. I like Flimsy Graham.
(31:00):
I like Lindsey Grahamnesty as well. I would have no problem.
I don't think I would have any problem copying something
Rush did. I mean, he's the freaking greatest, right but
it it feels maybe a little bit gross. What Chris what?
(31:20):
That's a good Yeah, that's kind of what Chris said.
I want to do my own thing, though.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
That's really why I don't listen to anyone else. I
don't consume right wing media really in any way anymore
now that I do it. I don't watch it. I
don't listen to it. If I listen to things, it's
almost always history related of some kind. I don't do
any politics now because I'm worried. I'm worried about being
(31:47):
someone else's voice. It's human nature to copy the things
you hear someone else say. And I want this show
to be different. We always wanted it to be different.
We didn't want it to sound like everyone else's show.
And that's why I don't use the other nicknames. I
don't even know what they're saying. I I have no idea.
(32:10):
They could all be trashing me all day long for
all I know. I don't care. Like I said, I
consume history stuff. Now have you have you heard anything
about the Hillsdale College rise and fall of the Roman
Republic lecture series? Have you heard this? You want to
nerd out on some fascinating history? How many times have
(32:32):
we talked about that Hillsdale has that free You realize
that the in fact, they've got more than forty free courses.
But that's the one I am. I think I'm halfway
through it right now. It's so good, it is so
well done. Go sign up in enroll Hillsdale's free stuff.
(32:52):
Hillsdale Education at least some of it for free, no cost.
Hillsdale dot Edu s Jesse is where you enroll. Go enroll. Look,
they've got all kinds of stuff. I don't want to
Roman Republic is my fascination. As you know, we talked
about it a bunch, but there's all kinds of stuff.
Whatever you're looking for, go go sign up free education
(33:16):
Hillsdale dot edu slash Jesse. All right, dear makeup Whisper.
You know that's not nice. Okay, I'm a huge fan.
I've been listening to your show daily for the last
few years. I even't got to meet you at your
books signing and shook your small hand. Not nice. You
mentioned how the FBI has been cooking the books relating
(33:36):
to crime stats. I can assure you that this is
happening throughout the country. I retired from one of the
top ten largest law enforcement agencies in the US after
thirty years. Our agency counted auto burglaries as one case,
even if dozens of cars in the same neighborhood were
broken into. This has happened to my entire career, amongst
(33:57):
other crimes. The government is lie to us all. Keep
up the good fight, devil dog Well. Police agencies always
always travel down river, downstream from the politics of whatever
area they're in. We want to imagine because we respect
(34:20):
people who put their lives on the line, lives on
the line cops and things like that. We want to
imagine that they can keep that filth out of it.
Like NYPD is a good example of this. Who doesn't
admire the NYPD. NYPD's admired around the world, and because
it has been so admired, and especially in the wake
of nine to eleven, we all liked to imagine that
(34:43):
all the left wing wacko craziness of New York City.
Surely it wouldn't bleed into the Boys and Blue. Of
course it did. It's a disaster down there now that
takes place everywhere, and when it comes to federal law
enforcement gets even worse because all these people get to
these appointed positions because this president or this senator or
(35:06):
this guy wants them there. So if you're some filthy
communist and you want you want the border open, and yeah,
you know there's a bunch of rapists and murderers who
are gonna come across the border, but still you're a
dirty communist, so you want the border open. Well, what
do you do about that? If the crime stats are
gonna go up because your border gets open, that makes
(35:29):
you look bad. So what do you do? You simply
get someone into place at the FBI, who's gonna cook
the books and go out there and say things like, Wow, i'
mean crime's definitely down. We're the FBI. We did in
an analysis of this, and crime is definitely down. Of course,
crime is not down at all. Crime is way, way,
way up. The highest crime areas in the country simply
(35:52):
stopped reporting to the FBI. The FBI knows this, but
because they're filthy communists who only work for Democrats, they
ran to the podium and told you crime is down.
Look at our statistics. We want to imagine things like
the military and the fire department and the police department,
because these are professions we admire. We want to imagine
(36:14):
they can remain insulated from communist filth no matter where
they are, and that is simply naive. It is one
of the most important positions you should consider running for,
or at least take an interest in. Is sheriff. Don't
I don't talk about that enough. Sheriff. Sheriff is a
(36:37):
critically important position, really honestly, probably the most important position
on a long enough timeline. Do you want somebody who's
going to, instead of working with the FBI, to kick
in your door and gun you down in the middle
of the night. Do you want somebody who will maybe say, no,
you can't come into my county. And if you do,
(36:59):
all arrest you, well, that happens at the sheriff's office.
Consider running for sheriff, all right. Also consider this, I
went on too long there and I did. I don't
actually have time to get to headlines. I mean, I
guess we could play the thing is and now here's.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
A headline, but you know that, you know the.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Thing headlines we didn't get to. That's all.
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