November 28, 2025 • 44 mins
The House Republicans just did something extremely silly. Jesse Kelly breaks it down and also talks about the pressure being put on FBI Director Kash Patel.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Let's have an uncomfortable conversation, or it might be a
comfortable conversation, I guess, depending on how you interpret it.
But let's talk about where we're at right now as
a movement on the right, what we're looking at in
the midterms, and why. Let's just break this down. So,
something that's been a big bit of news that's been
making the rounds is the retirement, the resignation, if you will,
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of Marjorie Taylor Green, congresswoman from Georgia. She's resigning in January,
walking away. All right, that's one story. Not gonna focus
on that specifically, but there are reports out there, punch
bowl News, saying there will be more resignations coming soon.
I will tell you on a personal level, I had
(00:54):
an exchange, a text exchange with a congressman last week,
and it started out out with him texting me three words,
what forwards, four words, I hate it here. What he
said sounded very much like a man who wanted to
walk away, wanted to retire, and this guy's one of
the good ones. Wanted to walk away. I wanted to retire. Okay,
(01:19):
we only have a slim majority after Marjorie Taylor Green
walks away. It's going to be about three seats if
we get too many resignations that Democrats may have the
House of Representatives before the midterms. All right, all right,
so this is bad, and we'll come back to the
bad for in a moment. But let's pause for a
moment right now. I'm getting this impression and I'm going
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through this as well, that we're pretty down right now
on the right. We're down on things. We're down on
the way things are going on, what's been done, what
hasn't been done. We're going to lose the midterms. We're
going to get crushed. We're pretty down on things, and
as we're about to discuss, we may get crushed in
the midterm. But do keep this in mind in politics.
(02:03):
I've been in politics for twenty years. I mean interested
in politics in twenty years. I was just a fan
for most of my time. But I pay attention the
same way you pay attention in politics. It matters, so
we care a lot. That's why you're into it, right,
That's why you're sitting here watching me on I'm right.
That's why I consume the news the same way you do.
The stuff matters, it's important for the direction of our country,
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for the country we're going to leave behind. It's important,
and because it's important, we get emotional about it. And
because we get emotional about it, we tend to go
through highs that are too high and lows that are
too low. Because we care, right, we care. You Ever
you ever been in a relationship, especially early on boyfriend girlfriend,
(02:51):
you know that he doesn't call to the end of
the world. You had one good date. We're going to
get married and be married for sixty years. This is
how we are. That's how I am. When it comes
to politics. When Donald Trump wins an election and we
have the House, and we have the Senate and we
got some good political appointees coming in, we say to ourselves,
my goodness, we are saved. We're gonna be great forever.
(03:13):
Democrats are never coming back to power. Life is good.
We've won final victory. And then we have a rough
couple months and I fully admit it's been a rough
couple months. We have a rough couple months. It's over,
We're don the country's over. I'm moving to Portugal. Not
that anyone would ever do such a thing. Just remember,
like we've talked about before, be careful with your highs
(03:36):
and be careful with your lows in politics. Now, let's
talk about the low we are currently in. It's rough.
It's been rough, and the House GOP has not helped itself.
And Trump Google gets Trump in a few but the
House GOP has not helped itself. Times have changed, and
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there is always a lag in Washington, DC understanding how
you feel because they're in a bubble. There's always a
signal lag where you all your friends you feel this way,
you feel strongly about something, but the message hasn't gotten
through to them. And this is something the Republican Party
had better get on top of the American people, specifically,
(04:21):
the American right will set aside the communists. The American
right they want things done, tangible things done. It's not
just prices we want down. We want corrupt government, people arrested.
We want this done. We want that done. Not more
speeches whenever we get some committee hearing where it's some
GOP congressman, some senator puts a great SoundBite out there,
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really gets them. You know what, I don't hardly get anymore.
I don't hardly get emails saying, yeah, did you see
senator what's his face? Kill them. What I get is,
why are we getting another hearing? Why are we doing something?
Do something? Are you gonna do anything? That's what you
feel like, That's what I feel like. There is a
signal lag, you see right now? The right is down.
(05:03):
We want tangible things done. We want government people thrown
into prison, we want deportations, we want prices down, we
want things done. The House GOP did this just.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Showing us from the hill right now. This is a
measure to condemn socialism. The vote is still being tabulated,
but of note, the four leading Democrats in the House
voted with Republicans to condemn socialism.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But what with everything going on, are palpable anger our
demands that somebody do something tangible? The House GOP passes
a resolution to condemned socialism. You want to talk about
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signal lag. Maybe they thought they were going to get
a pad on the back some applause for that. I've
never seen the right so angry. We're not impressed. I'm
not impressed. It's been a down couple months and that
GOP doesn't seem to figure out how to fix itself.
(06:22):
So let me explain why things are down right now?
For the GOP and let me explain how it has
to be turned around. Things are down for really two
huge reasons. The huge reasons are this. First, the Epstein
stuff was message really poorly. It's not that the average
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everyday voter cares about the Epstein stuff. I'm not talking
about the normies. We'll get to them in a moment.
We'll set the normies aside. The Trump coalition is large,
it's very diverse, all kinds of different interests, sport hawks
and make America healthy again, oks and all kinds of stuff.
There are many different parts of the coalition, but almost
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all of the parts want wealthy, powerful pedophiles exposed. Right.
And maybe that's in the files, maybe it's not. We
don't know. I don't know that it's been kept from us.
But it looked really bad when Trump decided to come
out and say shut up and stop talking about it.
That was terrible messaging, terrible. The Epstein stuff from the
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Pambondi binders that didn't have anything new in them to
Trump yelling at everyone to shut up about it looked bad.
It It deflated the right, It deflated the base. It
looked bad. That hurt Now with normies, Normies don't focus
on Epstein. Normanies are out there today. Maybe you were
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doing this. I'll tell you what I did this before
I came in. Maybe you were out there buying Thanksgiving supplies. Today,
normies can't afford food. They can't for the power bill.
I decided to replace an air conditioning in my home
a little while ago. It was nine thousand dollars to
replace an air conditioning. People can't can't afford to live.
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If you're wondering why Democrats currently have the largest lead
they've had on the generic ballot since twoenty seventeen, it's
not actually because of Epstein's stuff. It's because people can't
afford things now. And Trump was elected into the White
House because life had become unaffordable. Now, if you're saying
it's unfair to expect him to fix that in a year,
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I totally agree, totally agree. I'm not laying that at
his feet, but people are not going to be satisfied
at their kitchen table because of resolutions against socialism. Prices
have to come back down. Me you, we remember what
it was like four or five years ago when prices
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weren't like this, when we could afford more things. We
remember it's just like yesterday. We remember, so they're still up.
We're still not happy. That's why the White House, to
their credit, is starting to message things like this.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I think twenty twenty six, thanks to President Trump's signature plans,
is going to be a great year for working Americans,
for the market.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It's going to be an absolute blockbuster year ahead. And
one of the signals you just mentioned the job support,
that was double the expectation, the blowout job support. We've
got GDP now for the last two quarters almost four
percent on average, maybe even a little bit above. And
we're going to have a little bit of a hiccup
in the fourth quarter because of the silly shutdown, but
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then things are really lifting.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Things better be looking up right now. The American people
don't feel that telling them help us on the way
jobs are coming, that works, But they better get here
because that's really going to go to how we go
with the midterms. If people still feel down about jobs,
about the economy, about it, about inflation a year from now,
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next November, we're gonna get our teeth kicked in. Now
back to the right. Remember when Pam Bondi came out
James Comy stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Remember she said this, people have to be held accountable.
No one Sean is above the law. No one is
above the law. And you will be held accountable. And
you know, a very liberal grand jury and one of
the most liberal jurisdictions in the country just indicted James Comy.
Now we know, of course we have to go to trial.
We'll have a great trial team and everyone, of course
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is innocent until proven guilty. However, we are going to
trial in this case. And this is just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, Judge just dismissed it. Judge one of these comedy
judges just dismissed the James Comy stuff, the Letitia James stuff.
And I know, Pam Bondi she went to the cameras
after this. What she said, We'll be.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Taking all available legal action, including an immediate appeal, to
hold Letitia James and James Comey accountable for their unlawful conduct.
I'm going to keep going on this. I'm not you know,
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I'm not worried about someone who has been charged with
a very serious crime. His alleged actions were a betrayal
of public trust.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Doesn't exactly fill you up with confidence that those two
criminals are going to burn, so let's just have it out.
A significant portion of the Trump coalition voted for Trump
in part, not not not majorly, but in part because
we wanted to see powerful people finally go down for
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their crimes. No, maybe we can make all the excuses
in the world. This was a Clinton judge, It was
this jurisdiction. But all that stuff may be totally justified,
and we're gonna get into the details of it with
Bill Jacobson in a moment. But just like the vote
to condemn socialism, we don't want more press conferences. We
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don't need more Fox News hits. Those are fine, but
it has to be followed up with tangible things. I
know there's a DC to US signal lag, so everyone
in DC watching right now, please hear my words. We
need tangible things now the days of emails, have these
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stupid text messages you send us all I need help
putting James, come me away, send fifteen dollars. We're tired
of it and you're going to deflate the base so
badly that we're going to sit at home in November.
I mean, I know you won't. I won't, but lots
of it will. Got to get this turned around. It's
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a down period of time. Not saying it's gonna last forever,
but we do have to turn it around. All that
may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right here.
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I wish, I wish when I snacked that I was
seeking out anything else. But I just have these blinders
on it and I go right for chips. Now that's
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Speaker 5 (14:17):
We will find out who you are and we will
come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrorists. You better look
out because we're coming after you. And if you've committed fraud,
we're coming after you. You better watch out because we're
coming after you. Let me be very clear, if you
don't comply with federal law, you're going to be next.
Let this be a warning. You can run, but you
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cannot hide. Justice is coming.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Big talk that doesn't get delivered on very similar to
the Michigan Wolverines Joining me now. Steve Day's, host of
The Steve Days Show. Steve, I mean, I don't know
which disappointment we want to talk about first, Michigan or
it's really the floor is yours.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
But listen, brother, I know it's been about twenty one
and ninety four days since you all have beaten us,
but who's counting Apparently I am.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Pam has been just She's just been a colossal disappointment.
And if you knew Pam Bondi's political arc before disappointment,
you would not be surprised. She's largely spent much of
her time in the Republican Party's more establishment side, more
Romney side of things, And I think it just kind
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of figured out. There's a lot of Republicans in the
last few years, Jesse that have cynically figured out that
if they genuflect to the personality of Trump on a
few things, they can advance their careers beyond. With their
worldview stated, they deserve sort of a reverse Peter principle.
If you will, you rise to the level of your
own slurpage. And she's indicative of that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Now.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
My hope is, you know when they brought Andrew Bailey
in underneath her a few months ago, that they were
setting him up to take her place. Andrew Bailey is
the former attorney general at Missouri, did a great job there.
He's the one that I believe got to Anthony Fauci
under oath in that incredible deposition. I'd urge every member
of your audience to go back and read from a
couple of years ago. He has to be an upgrade
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just by the process of osmosis. I mean, he doesn't
have to even be good at this, you know. But
the current meme going around of Pam Bondi and it
says I seriously thought about arresting somebody recently is a
pretty good summation of what the entire year of this DOJ,
from her to Cash's FBI really just to me the
biggest disappointment of this year. And I don't even think
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there's a close second.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Steve. I've heard the same rumor as Brianna Morello and
others reporting that Andrew Bailey may maybe bouncing her out,
which would be just fine from me, honestly. While I'm
really down on her in the DOJ in general, that
at least should tell us that the Trump administration is
sensing that we need tangibles. Right. We don't need another
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press conference, we don't need another resolution condemning socialism. The
writer is h just about enough of that. Someone better
be in an orange jumpsuit.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
I don't disagree. I mean, and I think you know
there's a there's a there's a tension here, brother, in
that you know clearly from the way that that Trump
laid down Markers after right after the election. I mean,
go back to election night. If anybody could have taken
you know, an obnoxious victory lap, it's they literally tried
to murder the guy after they tried to put him
in prison, and he beat him anyway, and instead on election, iight,
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he really did not make it about himself at all.
He talked about RFK Junior and the people he wanted
to appoint and what he wanted to do for the country,
in sharp contrast to his first term. You remember, the
first big fight we had in his first term was
over whether more people came to his inaugural than Barack Obama's.
And then they and then he came right out with
a serious policy agenda and acting on it h executively,
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again in sharp contrast to the first term. I think
clearly he wanted to he wanted to demonstrate. Listen, I
learned some lessons. I'm ready to govern, I'm ready to lead.
And I think particularly the first six months of this
first year were really really strong because of that prep.
And what was the what were some of the what
was the other big criticism of the first term, the
revolving door of people in and out. Remember remember Anthony
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Scaramucci and Amrosa when they were a thing for ten minutes, right,
And so I think that, you know, especially for a
high profile position like ag you don't want to make
it look like you know, I'm throwing that person out
right away the first time they disappoint me, and then
that narrative again that you know, we're kind of unsettled
and don't know what they're doing. But I mean, I
at this point, I'll just I got to be honest
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with you, Jesse. I just think cash Betel's lying to
me every time he talks either comission or omission, like
every single time. Okay, this body language, like on every
statement is terrible. Pam Bondi's inaction has been terrible. And
I think now everybody those two guys or those two
people have gotten almost an entire calendar year. I can't
believe there's anybody who thinks that they have not been disappointments.
I think I would just move on.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, Steve, Now, obviously I'm feeling what you're saying. Everyone
watching is feeling what you're saying. Let me try to
attempt this. Are we are we asking too much? Meaning
Pam Bondi, who I'm not a fan of what she's
supposed to do about the fact that a communist judge
was installed and tossed it. You know that all these
all these systemic what a great word, systemic things have
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been put into place to make stopping the system. Changing
the system maybe not impossible but slow and very very difficult.
And maybe after a year, are we getting too impatient
too fast?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
I think that's not a case by case basis, because
you're right, there is a systemic problem here. But to me,
that this woman's credibility was was hit the two minute
warning in February when you took a lot of our
brightest influencers and and and basically provoke them to tarnish
their own credibility with the stupid binders of the Epstein files,
and the whole thing's been just downhill from there going
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how many times she go on Fox News and then
nights prior to that event back in February to say
they're on my desk right now, I'm examining them right now.
The target, it's a target rich environment of people that
could be arrested and maybe arrested so that you don't
have to go through a Trump or a Democrat appointed
judge or a DC court. How about you know, how
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about you know, let's the FBI is under her purview
as well. You have you had these heroic whistleblowers like
my friend Steven friend that we were told on August
twenty seventh, we're all getting reinstated, and now there's been
no further action or announcement on that whatsoever. I mean,
there's just been too much dishonesty and too much incompetence
that I think that you know, you've reached a point
of diminishing returns here and if anything, maybe you have
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set a successor up to be successful in light of
the systemic challenges we face with the swamp, like you
just said, because the current rate of accomplishment is so low,
I think you've just got to cut and run. I
think if she were a stockman, you got a pump
and dump. You got to move on. I mean, this
just isn't gonna work. You can't go into another calendar year.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
With us, Okay, Steve, Everyone right. The midterms are starting
to be on people's minds right now because we're a
year away and the general feeling is I mean, Trump
has basically said it himself that we are going to
get our teeth kicked in in the midterms. Generic ballot
looks bad, prices are still too high, all the stuff
that's true. Can we change that, Can we reverse it?
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Can it be done. Is it possible?
Speaker 7 (21:23):
It is now there are only certain limitings. So there's
only certain factors we control here, all right, And you know,
you can lose the generic ballot four five points and
still get close to a stalemate, provided you hold on
to the balkanized parts of the country that are in
your favor. And this goes back to the conversation we
just had, you know, for our people, if we're not
going to be able to deliver for them massive economic results,
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and you think of you know, Reagan faced a similar
malaise when he came in eighty and he got he
had massacred in the nineteen eighty two midterms, and then
turned around the economy finally began to feel his changes,
his paradigm shifts, and he had a historic landslide in
eighty four. We can't afford that now because if we
get massacred next year, much of the Trump presidency is over.
Trump will be in facing impeachment every day. The cabinet
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appointments we love the most, hegseth rfk Junior, all those people,
they're all facing impeachment inquiries every single day. Much of
the domestic agenda, whatever you think, whatever you think should
have is too slow. It grinds to a complete halt
if we lose. So we have to control what we
can control. What we need is our base max lit.
We need them max unified. We need them the max turnout,
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because you're right, we really can't ultimately determine everything about
the economy that will change swing and normy voters. Where
we get massacred is when we're plus five on the
generic ballot. And then you see what happened to win
some sears, what happened to win some sears. Third largest
county in Virginia loud In County, Virginia, Jesse. She only
got sixty two percent of the people in that county
that voted for Trump in twenty twenty. Her Democrat opponent
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got eighty four percent. That was the whole election right there.
We have to turn out our base. If we cannot
deliver mass economic records, then the other stuff are base
cares about the most transparency, accountability, election reform. That's the
stuff we have to deliver on so that our base
that Because what happens is our base looks at that
and says we're already gonna lose anyway, So screw these guys,
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they didn't get me what we want. I'm staying home
and Trump's not on the ballot anyway, and that's how
the entire nation begins to look like the Winsome Sears race.
That cannot happen. We have to control what we can control.
What we can control is delivering on some of these
things I just mentioned, transparency, accountability, election reform. Delivering on
those things for our people, and then ultimately you do
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whatever you can with the economic messaging.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
If Trump is not on the ballot, which he's not
going to be on the ballot, not in twenty eight,
not in twenty six. If Trump's not on the ballot,
do we have what it takes to motivate our base
or is our base just used to voting for Trump?
But that is what it is now.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
That's why again, these issues are so important. These issues
are like proxies for Trump. These are not issues the
Republican Party cared about ever prior to the ascendancy of Trump.
So the issues of accountability, all right, Transparency, these are issues,
election reform, these issues are unique to Trump as a brand.
They're the closest we get to getting Trump on the
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ballot is to be strong on these issues. And we
can't just say well, if you elect us again, we'll
get them done when you had the votes to get
it done this time. We need a record of accomplishment
on those issues so that Trump can then go out
all over the country next year and sell our people
on hey, we delivered on those fronts. You know, he
is a symbol of disruption. Those issues are are are
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manifestations of the disruption he's a symbol of. And so
it's the closest we get because if we don't deliver
on those you end up with you end up with
the other factor, which is not Trump, not on the ballot,
but the other side is still driven by him to
show up in mass and then our side is depressed
in result, and that's how you end up with a massacre.
So we have to deliver on those three issues because
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they're proxy issues for Trump and his political brand.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Steve, thank you, my friend. I appreciate it. I love
hot chocolate. What red blooded American doesn't love hot chocolate?
But I love it a lot. And my hot chocolate
in my house is special. It's dream powder from Beam.
You know that's what it is, right, hot chocolate? Now, Yes,
it's going to give you the greatest night's sleep of
(25:21):
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got Rashi and magnesium and melotone and all these things
in it, but it's just a delicious cup of hot chocolate.
Mine is cinnamon chocolate. I sip on it half hour
before bed, sitting there, read the book, watching something on TV,
and then you just kind of get a little sleepy
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Speaker 3 (25:58):
Kelly, March of twenty four I wrote something for Fox
Digital and everyone go back and pull it up March twelfth,
and it was called how the three eyes are the
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eviscerating working Americans? So what were the three eyes? Immigration?
Interest rates, and inflation, borders closed, promise, made, promise kept,
Tenure was five oh eight. I think it's at four
now and mortgage rates key off of that. I think
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short term interest rates could come down more so interest
rates down, and now we're at inflation, and inflation is
coming down. I am very confident over the coming six, three, six,
twelve months we are going to see the third eye
bite the dust and inflation is going to come down.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, well that's music to my freaking ears. Let's see
what John has to say about it. Joining me now,
John Carney, economics editor at bright Bart News. All right, John,
inflation coming down. Every single American watching right now just
sat up in their chair and said, really, is it gonna.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
It is coming down? Actually, some good news. The American
Farm Bureau said the price of a Thanksgiving meal is
down about five percent from last year. So this is
you know, they put together all the ingredients cranberry, sauce,
baked potato, mashed potatoes, turkey, of course, and they do
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this calculation and it's come down. Inflation is down a
lot from where it was under Joe Biden, and it's
going to keep coming down by all indications through you know,
through next year. It's going to take a while before
we get to two percent, which is the FEDS official target,
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but we're moving in that direction. So good news, and
I think best it's right on that. I think we
will see within the next six months material progress on inflation.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
All right, John, which of course begs the question. So
if we get inflation down to two percent, that does
not return me, a normal American, to what I was
paying before we decided to shut down the country for
a bad chess? Cool? Is that over? Is that country
simply gone because we shut it down? That is it?
(28:39):
The I mean, you can level with me, Is it over?
Is that gone?
Speaker 9 (28:43):
No?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
I don't think it is. I think the key we're
not going to bring prices to where they should be.
That inflation, unfortunately is baked in the cake where we
can't get rid of it. But what we can do
is grow wages. So that and that's the other half
of what I'll call like the best and Trump plan
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is to keep, is to grow wages faster than the
rate of inflation, so that wages catch up, so that
things no longer feel as expensive as they are now.
A huge part of the problem is prices went up
and our wages went up much more slowly, so things
really did become unaffordable, and they still are in many
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cases far less affordable than they were before the pandemic.
But if we can grow wages fast enough, we will
catch up. It'll still feel bad. Guys like you and
I will still look at the price of a hamburger
and be like, I can't believe that's what they're going
to charge me for a hamburger. But wages will catch
up and people will start to feel a little better
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about it because their money will go further.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, that's music to my ears. Break down for me
if you don't mind, John, Why why are wages going
to go up? What's what's happening right now that's going
to put more money in my pocket? Sure?
Speaker 8 (30:04):
A couple of things. One, we're having an investment boom
in America. We just got Durbal goods orders in this week.
I mean it's backdated to September because the Democrats shut
down the government, but they showed a huge leap in
business investment for the second month in a row. It
grew zero point nine percent in August and zero point
nine percent in September. That kind of investment in business
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actually will create a lot of demand for labor. The
other half of it is we've closed the border. That's
one of the things Beston was talking about in his
Three Eyes that puts upward pressure on American wages and
what we're seeing is a lot more jobs are being
filled by Americans rather than foreigners. Now that will help
bring wages up as well. And I think we're going
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to start to see the fruits of the deregulation and
the tariffs. Frankly, moving production back on shore will also
put upward pressure on wages.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So I think we're.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Going to catch up faster than you know most economists think.
They think, well, it'll take years and years. One of
the things I've learned in watching the Trump administration over
the years is they always underestimate how quickly the economy
can recover when you have good governance.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
John zooming out from us because sadly, we are affected
by the rest of the world. What's the global economic
situation now? Because it wasn't just the United States of
America that's had some rocky times in the past few years.
That's been fairly universal. Are other places getting their feet
under them? Are we are we are we starting to
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get back to normal or not?
Speaker 8 (31:45):
No, So there's a lot of economic problems still going
on around the world. China has a really precarious economic situation.
They are trying to sort of their economy was for
the last few years was really based on a property
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bubble where you know, something close to what we went
through in the United States, where you had a real
estate bubble. It's not based on mortgages as much. There's
a lot of mortgages, but it's a property bubble. They
were trying to replace that growth with export growth. The
problem is they've run into Donald Trump and the US
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is no longer open to Chinese dumping of exports, so
that's a big problem for China. Europe has a problem
as well. They're having to rebalance their economy. Their economy
really did depend very much on an uneven playing field
between the US and Europe, so Europe is trying to rebalance.
That's they're going to grow slow. That's actually it will
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be a drag on the US. We want, you know,
our allies to be rich and wealthy and to do well,
but it's going to take some time. That means they're
you know, their appetite for US product will be lower,
which will slower growth a bit. But we're going to
what we're going to see over the next couple of
years is the US is probably going to grow at
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a much healthier rate than Europe, and we might you know,
China will who knows how fast China really grows? The
numbers are all you know. I don't trust a bit
of them. But China's going to really struggle because they
can't switch from real estate to export like they had
planned because we put tariffs on them.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Are we going to have a new FED chair? There
are all these rumors, but you're the one who always
knows this stuff. We're gonna have a new FED chair?
If so, why and what's the new guy going to do?
Speaker 8 (33:41):
So, Yes, we will have a new FED chair no
matter what Jerome Powell's term ends. In April, Donald Trump
is very close to naming someone, and Alex Marlow and
I interviewed Scott Bessen. He made it clear that they
are getting very close to They've been interviewing candidates. It's
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most likely either going to be Kevin Hassett, who is
Donald Trump's chief economic advisor in the White House, the
National Economics Director right now, Kevin Warrish, who used to
be on the FED, and then Christopher Waller, who is
currently a FED governor, but he dissented once when the
FED didn't cut He's probably going to vote for another
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rate cut in the December meeting. He's also a strong candidate.
I think he actually has a stronger chance than people
are giving him odds for those are probably the three
leading candidates. Of course, Look it's Donald Trump. He you know,
often plays his cards pretty close to his vest on
these things. Nobody really knows until he makes the decision
(34:47):
who it's going to be. So I don't think even
you know, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett knows who it will be.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Right now.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
We'll have to wait to see what Donald Trump says.
He probably wants to say something I know before Christmas
is what I'm hearing.
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Speaker 9 (36:17):
Somalis are not terrorizing this nation. We are helping it thrive.
Somalis have always seen as a fabric, has seen themselves
as a fabric of this nation. So not only are
we not going anywhere, not only are we not going anywhere,
we are not going to allow anybody to make us
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feel less Minnesotan or less American.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Wow, things are going well up there. Joining me now,
Liz Collin, senior reporter, Alpha News, Liz, I don't even
know where to begin on the Somali based scandals that
are going on in your backyard. So maybe I should
actually hand it to the reporter. What is happening up there?
Speaker 10 (37:03):
Yeah, so much has made national news now, but federal
prosecutors Jesse have estimated now that there has been multi
billions of dollars in fraud in Minnesota. Just to catch
your audience up to speed, we've had seventy eight defendants
now been sentenced in just the Feeding our Future fraud
scheme alone. This was the largest COVID fraud scheme in
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the country, overwhelmingly perpetuated in the Somali community, and those
co defendants stole more than forty seven million dollars in funds,
claiming to serve eighteen million meals to kids at more
than thirty food distribution sites across Minnesota. The math never
added up. We know a lot of that money went overseas.
It'll never be recovered. You have fraud at autism centers,
adult daycares, medical transportation companies. An entire program was recently
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shut down by the state of Minnesota. It was supposed
to help people find housing. It had to be shut
down after it was riddled with fraud and over. At
ELPHA News, we've checked out many of the tips that
we've received, people alleging these fake businesses, phantom billing. I've
seen for myself the empty parking lots, empty businesses, and
then you can just check a quick online search to
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state records will show just how many millions of dollars
these what look to be fake businesses are receiving. I
can tell you the taxpayers are very frustrated. We've seen
this for ourselves. In fact, one business that we recently
profiled actually set up a surveillance camera themselves to just say, here,
there's never any cars coming and going this center, this
autism center, is getting two million dollars from taxpayers. We've
(38:34):
had people calling on Governor Tim Walls to resign in
the wake of all of this. He is currently still
running for his third term Jesse here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Okay, before we get to Tim Walls, Liz, I'm sorry.
I know it's probably off the subject. I need to
rewind for a second. Adult day cares. What's an adult
day care?
Speaker 10 (38:56):
You know, it's funny, that's what federal prosecutors have asked
to get and again, never even heard of this type
of business, but these have exploded in Minnesota. We've checked
it some out many times. Often there's nobody there, or
I've actually gone into some there's been people, just a
few people sitting on a couch and you know yet
online they'll be advertising all these great activities that they
(39:19):
take these older adults to that doesn't seem to be
happening into the stories that we've we've looked at, but
certainly a lot of a lot of questions. It seems
that there should be some safeguards put up on the
front end, rather than you know, looking for this money
after it's long.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Gone adult they here, gosh, I'm really old. Okay, back
to Tim Walls, do you get the impression because you're
the one who digs into this stuff that Minnesota and
the political apparatus there look the other way for all
this endless Somali fraud or it worse, helped And what's
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your impression on how the government is involved in this?
Speaker 10 (40:00):
You know, it's a good question. Republican legislators have recently
been more questioning that I think publicly. You know, why
have you allowed this for so long? Especially now with
this explosion of all of these frauds. It seems almost
at the same time, and again we're talking about billions
of dollars that have been built from taxpayers. At this point,
(40:24):
we have the Attorney General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, who
has been very quiet when it comes to fraud in Minnesota. Instead,
it's been federal prosecutors taking these cases on and then
you know, this I think made national news just recently
with President Trump announcing he's going to terminate a Temporary
protected status that TPS for Somali immigrants specifically, that's a
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little bit more than four hundred people, it's estimated in Minnesota.
We are the home to the largest Somali population in
the country, and where between eighty and one hundred thousand.
But we have documented this before that the money in
many cases has gone over Kenya, Somalia. My sources have
said that many have figured out how to do this.
(41:05):
They go ahead and they'll serve a five to ten
year prison term for this fraud. And we know that
some of this real estate has been bought in other
parts of the world, and they'll serve their time, and
you know, it's sort of a set up for them
upon their release. So there's been calls to you know, hey,
do we need tougher sentences when it comes to this fraud.
(41:26):
It's so pervasive, all.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Right, Liz, let's shift gears here. Derek Chauvin might be
this is my opinion, not yours the most legally crapped
on human being in the United States of America in
the last decade. And now I know his lawyers are saying, hey,
can we get this guy out of what's happening with
all this?
Speaker 10 (41:46):
And Jesse also something that has taken place on Governor
Tim Wall's watch. We talk about fraud, but fraud to
me also involves lies. Certainly a lot of them told
in this case. But we have the latest developments with
Derek Chauvin's case, this new court filing in support of
a post conviction relief for Derek Chauvin. It's a seventy
one page petition filed in Hennepin County Court last week
(42:07):
now alleging prosecutorial misconduct. It's basically Chauvin's last line of defense.
You have his attorney stating that this case never made sense.
Very few murders, he says, take place before a crowd
of witnesses, especially while officers are working with dispatchers and
requesting an ambulance and emergency response right all at the
same time. There's also quite a bit in this questioning
(42:29):
the video evidence how these so called expert witnesses could
actually even testify at all to the cause of death
of George Floyd. The only person to ever conduct an
autopsy on George Floyd was doctor Andrew Baker. Instead, he's
called fifth in line to testify, and he talks about
how there's no asphyxiation at all that George Floyd suffered from,
(42:50):
and in fact his findings are cardiopulmonary arrests that George
Floyd in fact died of a heart attack. And you
now have fifty police officers, former and current Minneapolis police
officers that have come forward in this filing to say
that Derek Chauvin was trained in the maximum restraint technique.
They were all trained in MRT, and that is in
fact what he was doing on May twenty fifth, twenty twenty.
(43:12):
So you have a lot of these, you know, questionable
people who've been called and testified, and many people have
said that they actually committed perjury in Derek Chauvin's case.
So all of that wrapped up into this seventy one
page filing last week to either vacate Chauvin's conviction or
grant him a new trial.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
All right, this, before I let you go, I just
want to nail down on this point. We have these
fifty officers, current informers saying he was trained in this. Well,
this is information that I know you had talked about
back when it mattered before Derek chauvinent prison. So not
insulting them or anyone else involved, because I don't know
the details. Where were these fifty guys back when Derek
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Chauvin was on trial.
Speaker 10 (43:56):
Well, what's interesting is the judge did not allow MRT
the maxim Restraint technique to discussed at trial at all.
They said that Derek Chauvin didn't.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
They didn't.
Speaker 10 (44:05):
He didn't sign his name in the last time it
was trained during MPD, but you know training. But I
think it only adds to the spotlight on the judge
in this case, Judge Peter Cahill, who has since retired,
but there were many questionable rulings that he may have
always said in the case Jesse, it's it's more about
what the jury the jury was not allowed to see
in Derek Chauvin's case, rather than rather than what they were.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Liz, Happy thanksgiving to you. I appreciate it.
Let's have an uncomfortable conversation, or it might be a
comfortable conversation, I guess, depending on how you interpret it.
But let's talk about where we're at right now as
a movement on the right, what we're looking at in
the midterms, and why. Let's just break this down. So,
something that's been a big bit of news that's been
making the rounds is the retirement, the resignation, if you will,
(00:32):
of Marjorie Taylor Green, congresswoman from Georgia. She's resigning in January,
walking away. All right, that's one story. Not gonna focus
on that specifically, but there are reports out there, punch
bowl News, saying there will be more resignations coming soon.
I will tell you on a personal level, I had
(00:54):
an exchange, a text exchange with a congressman last week,
and it started out out with him texting me three words,
what forwards, four words, I hate it here. What he
said sounded very much like a man who wanted to
walk away, wanted to retire, and this guy's one of
the good ones. Wanted to walk away. I wanted to retire. Okay,
(01:19):
we only have a slim majority after Marjorie Taylor Green
walks away. It's going to be about three seats if
we get too many resignations that Democrats may have the
House of Representatives before the midterms. All right, all right,
so this is bad, and we'll come back to the
bad for in a moment. But let's pause for a
moment right now. I'm getting this impression and I'm going
(01:42):
through this as well, that we're pretty down right now
on the right. We're down on things. We're down on
the way things are going on, what's been done, what
hasn't been done. We're going to lose the midterms. We're
going to get crushed. We're pretty down on things, and
as we're about to discuss, we may get crushed in
the midterm. But do keep this in mind in politics.
(02:03):
I've been in politics for twenty years. I mean interested
in politics in twenty years. I was just a fan
for most of my time. But I pay attention the
same way you pay attention in politics. It matters, so
we care a lot. That's why you're into it, right,
That's why you're sitting here watching me on I'm right.
That's why I consume the news the same way you do.
The stuff matters, it's important for the direction of our country,
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for the country we're going to leave behind. It's important,
and because it's important, we get emotional about it. And
because we get emotional about it, we tend to go
through highs that are too high and lows that are
too low. Because we care, right, we care. You Ever
you ever been in a relationship, especially early on boyfriend girlfriend,
(02:51):
you know that he doesn't call to the end of
the world. You had one good date. We're going to
get married and be married for sixty years. This is
how we are. That's how I am. When it comes
to politics. When Donald Trump wins an election and we
have the House, and we have the Senate and we
got some good political appointees coming in, we say to ourselves,
my goodness, we are saved. We're gonna be great forever.
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Democrats are never coming back to power. Life is good.
We've won final victory. And then we have a rough
couple months and I fully admit it's been a rough
couple months. We have a rough couple months. It's over,
We're don the country's over. I'm moving to Portugal. Not
that anyone would ever do such a thing. Just remember,
like we've talked about before, be careful with your highs
(03:36):
and be careful with your lows in politics. Now, let's
talk about the low we are currently in. It's rough.
It's been rough, and the House GOP has not helped itself.
And Trump Google gets Trump in a few but the
House GOP has not helped itself. Times have changed, and
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there is always a lag in Washington, DC understanding how
you feel because they're in a bubble. There's always a
signal lag where you all your friends you feel this way,
you feel strongly about something, but the message hasn't gotten
through to them. And this is something the Republican Party
had better get on top of the American people, specifically,
(04:21):
the American right will set aside the communists. The American
right they want things done, tangible things done. It's not
just prices we want down. We want corrupt government, people arrested.
We want this done. We want that done. Not more
speeches whenever we get some committee hearing where it's some
GOP congressman, some senator puts a great SoundBite out there,
(04:43):
really gets them. You know what, I don't hardly get anymore.
I don't hardly get emails saying, yeah, did you see
senator what's his face? Kill them. What I get is,
why are we getting another hearing? Why are we doing something?
Do something? Are you gonna do anything? That's what you
feel like, That's what I feel like. There is a
signal lag, you see right now? The right is down.
(05:03):
We want tangible things done. We want government people thrown
into prison, we want deportations, we want prices down, we
want things done. The House GOP did this just.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Showing us from the hill right now. This is a
measure to condemn socialism. The vote is still being tabulated,
but of note, the four leading Democrats in the House
voted with Republicans to condemn socialism.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But what with everything going on, are palpable anger our
demands that somebody do something tangible? The House GOP passes
a resolution to condemned socialism. You want to talk about
(06:00):
signal lag. Maybe they thought they were going to get
a pad on the back some applause for that. I've
never seen the right so angry. We're not impressed. I'm
not impressed. It's been a down couple months and that
GOP doesn't seem to figure out how to fix itself.
(06:22):
So let me explain why things are down right now?
For the GOP and let me explain how it has
to be turned around. Things are down for really two
huge reasons. The huge reasons are this. First, the Epstein
stuff was message really poorly. It's not that the average
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everyday voter cares about the Epstein stuff. I'm not talking
about the normies. We'll get to them in a moment.
We'll set the normies aside. The Trump coalition is large,
it's very diverse, all kinds of different interests, sport hawks
and make America healthy again, oks and all kinds of stuff.
There are many different parts of the coalition, but almost
(07:03):
all of the parts want wealthy, powerful pedophiles exposed. Right.
And maybe that's in the files, maybe it's not. We
don't know. I don't know that it's been kept from us.
But it looked really bad when Trump decided to come
out and say shut up and stop talking about it.
That was terrible messaging, terrible. The Epstein stuff from the
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Pambondi binders that didn't have anything new in them to
Trump yelling at everyone to shut up about it looked bad.
It It deflated the right, It deflated the base. It
looked bad. That hurt Now with normies, Normies don't focus
on Epstein. Normanies are out there today. Maybe you were
(07:50):
doing this. I'll tell you what I did this before
I came in. Maybe you were out there buying Thanksgiving supplies. Today,
normies can't afford food. They can't for the power bill.
I decided to replace an air conditioning in my home
a little while ago. It was nine thousand dollars to
replace an air conditioning. People can't can't afford to live.
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If you're wondering why Democrats currently have the largest lead
they've had on the generic ballot since twoenty seventeen, it's
not actually because of Epstein's stuff. It's because people can't
afford things now. And Trump was elected into the White
House because life had become unaffordable. Now, if you're saying
it's unfair to expect him to fix that in a year,
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I totally agree, totally agree. I'm not laying that at
his feet, but people are not going to be satisfied
at their kitchen table because of resolutions against socialism. Prices
have to come back down. Me you, we remember what
it was like four or five years ago when prices
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weren't like this, when we could afford more things. We
remember it's just like yesterday. We remember, so they're still up.
We're still not happy. That's why the White House, to
their credit, is starting to message things like this.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I think twenty twenty six, thanks to President Trump's signature plans,
is going to be a great year for working Americans,
for the market.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It's going to be an absolute blockbuster year ahead. And
one of the signals you just mentioned the job support,
that was double the expectation, the blowout job support. We've
got GDP now for the last two quarters almost four
percent on average, maybe even a little bit above. And
we're going to have a little bit of a hiccup
in the fourth quarter because of the silly shutdown, but
(09:41):
then things are really lifting.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Things better be looking up right now. The American people
don't feel that telling them help us on the way
jobs are coming, that works, But they better get here
because that's really going to go to how we go
with the midterms. If people still feel down about jobs,
about the economy, about it, about inflation a year from now,
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next November, we're gonna get our teeth kicked in. Now
back to the right. Remember when Pam Bondi came out
James Comy stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Remember she said this, people have to be held accountable.
No one Sean is above the law. No one is
above the law. And you will be held accountable. And
you know, a very liberal grand jury and one of
the most liberal jurisdictions in the country just indicted James Comy.
Now we know, of course we have to go to trial.
We'll have a great trial team and everyone, of course
(10:40):
is innocent until proven guilty. However, we are going to
trial in this case. And this is just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, Judge just dismissed it. Judge one of these comedy
judges just dismissed the James Comy stuff, the Letitia James stuff.
And I know, Pam Bondi she went to the cameras
after this. What she said, We'll be.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Taking all available legal action, including an immediate appeal, to
hold Letitia James and James Comey accountable for their unlawful conduct.
I'm going to keep going on this. I'm not you know,
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I'm not worried about someone who has been charged with
a very serious crime. His alleged actions were a betrayal
of public trust.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Doesn't exactly fill you up with confidence that those two
criminals are going to burn, so let's just have it out.
A significant portion of the Trump coalition voted for Trump
in part, not not not majorly, but in part because
we wanted to see powerful people finally go down for
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their crimes. No, maybe we can make all the excuses
in the world. This was a Clinton judge, It was
this jurisdiction. But all that stuff may be totally justified,
and we're gonna get into the details of it with
Bill Jacobson in a moment. But just like the vote
to condemn socialism, we don't want more press conferences. We
(12:19):
don't need more Fox News hits. Those are fine, but
it has to be followed up with tangible things. I
know there's a DC to US signal lag, so everyone
in DC watching right now, please hear my words. We
need tangible things now the days of emails, have these
(12:41):
stupid text messages you send us all I need help
putting James, come me away, send fifteen dollars. We're tired
of it and you're going to deflate the base so
badly that we're going to sit at home in November.
I mean, I know you won't. I won't, but lots
of it will. Got to get this turned around. It's
(13:01):
a down period of time. Not saying it's gonna last forever,
but we do have to turn it around. All that
may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right here.
I love chips. I'm a chip freak. I can't help it.
I wish, I wish when I snacked that I was
seeking out anything else. But I just have these blinders
on it and I go right for chips. Now that's
(13:24):
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Speaker 5 (14:17):
We will find out who you are and we will
come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrorists. You better look
out because we're coming after you. And if you've committed fraud,
we're coming after you. You better watch out because we're
coming after you. Let me be very clear, if you
don't comply with federal law, you're going to be next.
Let this be a warning. You can run, but you
(14:37):
cannot hide. Justice is coming.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Big talk that doesn't get delivered on very similar to
the Michigan Wolverines Joining me now. Steve Day's, host of
The Steve Days Show. Steve, I mean, I don't know
which disappointment we want to talk about first, Michigan or
it's really the floor is yours.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
But listen, brother, I know it's been about twenty one
and ninety four days since you all have beaten us,
but who's counting Apparently I am.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Pam has been just She's just been a colossal disappointment.
And if you knew Pam Bondi's political arc before disappointment,
you would not be surprised. She's largely spent much of
her time in the Republican Party's more establishment side, more
Romney side of things, And I think it just kind
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of figured out. There's a lot of Republicans in the
last few years, Jesse that have cynically figured out that
if they genuflect to the personality of Trump on a
few things, they can advance their careers beyond. With their
worldview stated, they deserve sort of a reverse Peter principle.
If you will, you rise to the level of your
own slurpage. And she's indicative of that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Now.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
My hope is, you know when they brought Andrew Bailey
in underneath her a few months ago, that they were
setting him up to take her place. Andrew Bailey is
the former attorney general at Missouri, did a great job there.
He's the one that I believe got to Anthony Fauci
under oath in that incredible deposition. I'd urge every member
of your audience to go back and read from a
couple of years ago. He has to be an upgrade
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just by the process of osmosis. I mean, he doesn't
have to even be good at this, you know. But
the current meme going around of Pam Bondi and it
says I seriously thought about arresting somebody recently is a
pretty good summation of what the entire year of this DOJ,
from her to Cash's FBI really just to me the
biggest disappointment of this year. And I don't even think
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there's a close second.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Steve. I've heard the same rumor as Brianna Morello and
others reporting that Andrew Bailey may maybe bouncing her out,
which would be just fine from me, honestly. While I'm
really down on her in the DOJ in general, that
at least should tell us that the Trump administration is
sensing that we need tangibles. Right. We don't need another
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press conference, we don't need another resolution condemning socialism. The
writer is h just about enough of that. Someone better
be in an orange jumpsuit.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
I don't disagree. I mean, and I think you know
there's a there's a there's a tension here, brother, in
that you know clearly from the way that that Trump
laid down Markers after right after the election. I mean,
go back to election night. If anybody could have taken
you know, an obnoxious victory lap, it's they literally tried
to murder the guy after they tried to put him
in prison, and he beat him anyway, and instead on election, iight,
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he really did not make it about himself at all.
He talked about RFK Junior and the people he wanted
to appoint and what he wanted to do for the country,
in sharp contrast to his first term. You remember, the
first big fight we had in his first term was
over whether more people came to his inaugural than Barack Obama's.
And then they and then he came right out with
a serious policy agenda and acting on it h executively,
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again in sharp contrast to the first term. I think
clearly he wanted to he wanted to demonstrate. Listen, I
learned some lessons. I'm ready to govern, I'm ready to lead.
And I think particularly the first six months of this
first year were really really strong because of that prep.
And what was the what were some of the what
was the other big criticism of the first term, the
revolving door of people in and out. Remember remember Anthony
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Scaramucci and Amrosa when they were a thing for ten minutes, right,
And so I think that, you know, especially for a
high profile position like ag you don't want to make
it look like you know, I'm throwing that person out
right away the first time they disappoint me, and then
that narrative again that you know, we're kind of unsettled
and don't know what they're doing. But I mean, I
at this point, I'll just I got to be honest
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with you, Jesse. I just think cash Betel's lying to
me every time he talks either comission or omission, like
every single time. Okay, this body language, like on every
statement is terrible. Pam Bondi's inaction has been terrible. And
I think now everybody those two guys or those two
people have gotten almost an entire calendar year. I can't
believe there's anybody who thinks that they have not been disappointments.
I think I would just move on.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, Steve, Now, obviously I'm feeling what you're saying. Everyone
watching is feeling what you're saying. Let me try to
attempt this. Are we are we asking too much? Meaning
Pam Bondi, who I'm not a fan of what she's
supposed to do about the fact that a communist judge
was installed and tossed it. You know that all these
all these systemic what a great word, systemic things have
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been put into place to make stopping the system. Changing
the system maybe not impossible but slow and very very difficult.
And maybe after a year, are we getting too impatient
too fast?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
I think that's not a case by case basis, because
you're right, there is a systemic problem here. But to me,
that this woman's credibility was was hit the two minute
warning in February when you took a lot of our
brightest influencers and and and basically provoke them to tarnish
their own credibility with the stupid binders of the Epstein files,
and the whole thing's been just downhill from there going
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how many times she go on Fox News and then
nights prior to that event back in February to say
they're on my desk right now, I'm examining them right now.
The target, it's a target rich environment of people that
could be arrested and maybe arrested so that you don't
have to go through a Trump or a Democrat appointed
judge or a DC court. How about you know, how
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about you know, let's the FBI is under her purview
as well. You have you had these heroic whistleblowers like
my friend Steven friend that we were told on August
twenty seventh, we're all getting reinstated, and now there's been
no further action or announcement on that whatsoever. I mean,
there's just been too much dishonesty and too much incompetence
that I think that you know, you've reached a point
of diminishing returns here and if anything, maybe you have
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set a successor up to be successful in light of
the systemic challenges we face with the swamp, like you
just said, because the current rate of accomplishment is so low,
I think you've just got to cut and run. I
think if she were a stockman, you got a pump
and dump. You got to move on. I mean, this
just isn't gonna work. You can't go into another calendar year.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
With us, Okay, Steve, Everyone right. The midterms are starting
to be on people's minds right now because we're a
year away and the general feeling is I mean, Trump
has basically said it himself that we are going to
get our teeth kicked in in the midterms. Generic ballot
looks bad, prices are still too high, all the stuff
that's true. Can we change that, Can we reverse it?
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Can it be done. Is it possible?
Speaker 7 (21:23):
It is now there are only certain limitings. So there's
only certain factors we control here, all right, And you know,
you can lose the generic ballot four five points and
still get close to a stalemate, provided you hold on
to the balkanized parts of the country that are in
your favor. And this goes back to the conversation we
just had, you know, for our people, if we're not
going to be able to deliver for them massive economic results,
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and you think of you know, Reagan faced a similar
malaise when he came in eighty and he got he
had massacred in the nineteen eighty two midterms, and then
turned around the economy finally began to feel his changes,
his paradigm shifts, and he had a historic landslide in
eighty four. We can't afford that now because if we
get massacred next year, much of the Trump presidency is over.
Trump will be in facing impeachment every day. The cabinet
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appointments we love the most, hegseth rfk Junior, all those people,
they're all facing impeachment inquiries every single day. Much of
the domestic agenda, whatever you think, whatever you think should
have is too slow. It grinds to a complete halt
if we lose. So we have to control what we
can control. What we need is our base max lit.
We need them max unified. We need them the max turnout,
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because you're right, we really can't ultimately determine everything about
the economy that will change swing and normy voters. Where
we get massacred is when we're plus five on the
generic ballot. And then you see what happened to win
some sears, what happened to win some sears. Third largest
county in Virginia loud In County, Virginia, Jesse. She only
got sixty two percent of the people in that county
that voted for Trump in twenty twenty. Her Democrat opponent
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got eighty four percent. That was the whole election right there.
We have to turn out our base. If we cannot
deliver mass economic records, then the other stuff are base
cares about the most transparency, accountability, election reform. That's the
stuff we have to deliver on so that our base
that Because what happens is our base looks at that
and says we're already gonna lose anyway, So screw these guys,
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they didn't get me what we want. I'm staying home
and Trump's not on the ballot anyway, and that's how
the entire nation begins to look like the Winsome Sears race.
That cannot happen. We have to control what we can control.
What we can control is delivering on some of these
things I just mentioned, transparency, accountability, election reform. Delivering on
those things for our people, and then ultimately you do
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whatever you can with the economic messaging.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
If Trump is not on the ballot, which he's not
going to be on the ballot, not in twenty eight,
not in twenty six. If Trump's not on the ballot,
do we have what it takes to motivate our base
or is our base just used to voting for Trump?
But that is what it is now.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
That's why again, these issues are so important. These issues
are like proxies for Trump. These are not issues the
Republican Party cared about ever prior to the ascendancy of Trump.
So the issues of accountability, all right, Transparency, these are issues,
election reform, these issues are unique to Trump as a brand.
They're the closest we get to getting Trump on the
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ballot is to be strong on these issues. And we
can't just say well, if you elect us again, we'll
get them done when you had the votes to get
it done this time. We need a record of accomplishment
on those issues so that Trump can then go out
all over the country next year and sell our people
on hey, we delivered on those fronts. You know, he
is a symbol of disruption. Those issues are are are
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manifestations of the disruption he's a symbol of. And so
it's the closest we get because if we don't deliver
on those you end up with you end up with
the other factor, which is not Trump, not on the ballot,
but the other side is still driven by him to
show up in mass and then our side is depressed
in result, and that's how you end up with a massacre.
So we have to deliver on those three issues because
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they're proxy issues for Trump and his political brand.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
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Speaker 3 (25:58):
Kelly, March of twenty four I wrote something for Fox
Digital and everyone go back and pull it up March twelfth,
and it was called how the three eyes are the
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eviscerating working Americans? So what were the three eyes? Immigration?
Interest rates, and inflation, borders closed, promise, made, promise kept,
Tenure was five oh eight. I think it's at four
now and mortgage rates key off of that. I think
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short term interest rates could come down more so interest
rates down, and now we're at inflation, and inflation is
coming down. I am very confident over the coming six, three, six,
twelve months we are going to see the third eye
bite the dust and inflation is going to come down.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, well that's music to my freaking ears. Let's see
what John has to say about it. Joining me now,
John Carney, economics editor at bright Bart News. All right, John,
inflation coming down. Every single American watching right now just
sat up in their chair and said, really, is it gonna.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
It is coming down? Actually, some good news. The American
Farm Bureau said the price of a Thanksgiving meal is
down about five percent from last year. So this is
you know, they put together all the ingredients cranberry, sauce,
baked potato, mashed potatoes, turkey, of course, and they do
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this calculation and it's come down. Inflation is down a
lot from where it was under Joe Biden, and it's
going to keep coming down by all indications through you know,
through next year. It's going to take a while before
we get to two percent, which is the FEDS official target,
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but we're moving in that direction. So good news, and
I think best it's right on that. I think we
will see within the next six months material progress on inflation.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
All right, John, which of course begs the question. So
if we get inflation down to two percent, that does
not return me, a normal American, to what I was
paying before we decided to shut down the country for
a bad chess? Cool? Is that over? Is that country
simply gone because we shut it down? That is it?
(28:39):
The I mean, you can level with me, Is it over?
Is that gone?
Speaker 9 (28:43):
No?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
I don't think it is. I think the key we're
not going to bring prices to where they should be.
That inflation, unfortunately is baked in the cake where we
can't get rid of it. But what we can do
is grow wages. So that and that's the other half
of what I'll call like the best and Trump plan
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is to keep, is to grow wages faster than the
rate of inflation, so that wages catch up, so that
things no longer feel as expensive as they are now.
A huge part of the problem is prices went up
and our wages went up much more slowly, so things
really did become unaffordable, and they still are in many
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cases far less affordable than they were before the pandemic.
But if we can grow wages fast enough, we will
catch up. It'll still feel bad. Guys like you and
I will still look at the price of a hamburger
and be like, I can't believe that's what they're going
to charge me for a hamburger. But wages will catch
up and people will start to feel a little better
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about it because their money will go further.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, that's music to my ears. Break down for me
if you don't mind, John, Why why are wages going
to go up? What's what's happening right now that's going
to put more money in my pocket? Sure?
Speaker 8 (30:04):
A couple of things. One, we're having an investment boom
in America. We just got Durbal goods orders in this week.
I mean it's backdated to September because the Democrats shut
down the government, but they showed a huge leap in
business investment for the second month in a row. It
grew zero point nine percent in August and zero point
nine percent in September. That kind of investment in business
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actually will create a lot of demand for labor. The
other half of it is we've closed the border. That's
one of the things Beston was talking about in his
Three Eyes that puts upward pressure on American wages and
what we're seeing is a lot more jobs are being
filled by Americans rather than foreigners. Now that will help
bring wages up as well. And I think we're going
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to start to see the fruits of the deregulation and
the tariffs. Frankly, moving production back on shore will also
put upward pressure on wages.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So I think we're.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Going to catch up faster than you know most economists think.
They think, well, it'll take years and years. One of
the things I've learned in watching the Trump administration over
the years is they always underestimate how quickly the economy
can recover when you have good governance.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
John zooming out from us because sadly, we are affected
by the rest of the world. What's the global economic
situation now? Because it wasn't just the United States of
America that's had some rocky times in the past few years.
That's been fairly universal. Are other places getting their feet
under them? Are we are we are we starting to
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get back to normal or not?
Speaker 8 (31:45):
No, So there's a lot of economic problems still going
on around the world. China has a really precarious economic situation.
They are trying to sort of their economy was for
the last few years was really based on a property
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bubble where you know, something close to what we went
through in the United States, where you had a real
estate bubble. It's not based on mortgages as much. There's
a lot of mortgages, but it's a property bubble. They
were trying to replace that growth with export growth. The
problem is they've run into Donald Trump and the US
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is no longer open to Chinese dumping of exports, so
that's a big problem for China. Europe has a problem
as well. They're having to rebalance their economy. Their economy
really did depend very much on an uneven playing field
between the US and Europe, so Europe is trying to rebalance.
That's they're going to grow slow. That's actually it will
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be a drag on the US. We want, you know,
our allies to be rich and wealthy and to do well,
but it's going to take some time. That means they're
you know, their appetite for US product will be lower,
which will slower growth a bit. But we're going to
what we're going to see over the next couple of
years is the US is probably going to grow at
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a much healthier rate than Europe, and we might you know,
China will who knows how fast China really grows? The
numbers are all you know. I don't trust a bit
of them. But China's going to really struggle because they
can't switch from real estate to export like they had
planned because we put tariffs on them.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Are we going to have a new FED chair? There
are all these rumors, but you're the one who always
knows this stuff. We're gonna have a new FED chair?
If so, why and what's the new guy going to do?
Speaker 8 (33:41):
So, Yes, we will have a new FED chair no
matter what Jerome Powell's term ends. In April, Donald Trump
is very close to naming someone, and Alex Marlow and
I interviewed Scott Bessen. He made it clear that they
are getting very close to They've been interviewing candidates. It's
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most likely either going to be Kevin Hassett, who is
Donald Trump's chief economic advisor in the White House, the
National Economics Director right now, Kevin Warrish, who used to
be on the FED, and then Christopher Waller, who is
currently a FED governor, but he dissented once when the
FED didn't cut He's probably going to vote for another
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rate cut in the December meeting. He's also a strong candidate.
I think he actually has a stronger chance than people
are giving him odds for those are probably the three
leading candidates. Of course, Look it's Donald Trump. He you know,
often plays his cards pretty close to his vest on
these things. Nobody really knows until he makes the decision
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who it's going to be. So I don't think even
you know, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett knows who it will be.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Right now.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
We'll have to wait to see what Donald Trump says.
He probably wants to say something I know before Christmas
is what I'm hearing.
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Speaker 9 (36:17):
Somalis are not terrorizing this nation. We are helping it thrive.
Somalis have always seen as a fabric, has seen themselves
as a fabric of this nation. So not only are
we not going anywhere, not only are we not going anywhere,
we are not going to allow anybody to make us
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feel less Minnesotan or less American.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Wow, things are going well up there. Joining me now,
Liz Collin, senior reporter, Alpha News, Liz, I don't even
know where to begin on the Somali based scandals that
are going on in your backyard. So maybe I should
actually hand it to the reporter. What is happening up there?
Speaker 10 (37:03):
Yeah, so much has made national news now, but federal
prosecutors Jesse have estimated now that there has been multi
billions of dollars in fraud in Minnesota. Just to catch
your audience up to speed, we've had seventy eight defendants
now been sentenced in just the Feeding our Future fraud
scheme alone. This was the largest COVID fraud scheme in
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the country, overwhelmingly perpetuated in the Somali community, and those
co defendants stole more than forty seven million dollars in funds,
claiming to serve eighteen million meals to kids at more
than thirty food distribution sites across Minnesota. The math never
added up. We know a lot of that money went overseas.
It'll never be recovered. You have fraud at autism centers,
adult daycares, medical transportation companies. An entire program was recently
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shut down by the state of Minnesota. It was supposed
to help people find housing. It had to be shut
down after it was riddled with fraud and over. At
ELPHA News, we've checked out many of the tips that
we've received, people alleging these fake businesses, phantom billing. I've
seen for myself the empty parking lots, empty businesses, and
then you can just check a quick online search to
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state records will show just how many millions of dollars
these what look to be fake businesses are receiving. I
can tell you the taxpayers are very frustrated. We've seen
this for ourselves. In fact, one business that we recently
profiled actually set up a surveillance camera themselves to just say, here,
there's never any cars coming and going this center, this
autism center, is getting two million dollars from taxpayers. We've
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had people calling on Governor Tim Walls to resign in
the wake of all of this. He is currently still
running for his third term Jesse here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Okay, before we get to Tim Walls, Liz, I'm sorry.
I know it's probably off the subject. I need to
rewind for a second. Adult day cares. What's an adult
day care?
Speaker 10 (38:56):
You know, it's funny, that's what federal prosecutors have asked
to get and again, never even heard of this type
of business, but these have exploded in Minnesota. We've checked
it some out many times. Often there's nobody there, or
I've actually gone into some there's been people, just a
few people sitting on a couch and you know yet
online they'll be advertising all these great activities that they
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take these older adults to that doesn't seem to be
happening into the stories that we've we've looked at, but
certainly a lot of a lot of questions. It seems
that there should be some safeguards put up on the
front end, rather than you know, looking for this money
after it's long.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Gone adult they here, gosh, I'm really old. Okay, back
to Tim Walls, do you get the impression because you're
the one who digs into this stuff that Minnesota and
the political apparatus there look the other way for all
this endless Somali fraud or it worse, helped And what's
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your impression on how the government is involved in this?
Speaker 10 (40:00):
You know, it's a good question. Republican legislators have recently
been more questioning that I think publicly. You know, why
have you allowed this for so long? Especially now with
this explosion of all of these frauds. It seems almost
at the same time, and again we're talking about billions
of dollars that have been built from taxpayers. At this point,
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we have the Attorney General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, who
has been very quiet when it comes to fraud in Minnesota. Instead,
it's been federal prosecutors taking these cases on and then
you know, this I think made national news just recently
with President Trump announcing he's going to terminate a Temporary
protected status that TPS for Somali immigrants specifically, that's a
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little bit more than four hundred people, it's estimated in Minnesota.
We are the home to the largest Somali population in
the country, and where between eighty and one hundred thousand.
But we have documented this before that the money in
many cases has gone over Kenya, Somalia. My sources have
said that many have figured out how to do this.
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They go ahead and they'll serve a five to ten
year prison term for this fraud. And we know that
some of this real estate has been bought in other
parts of the world, and they'll serve their time, and
you know, it's sort of a set up for them
upon their release. So there's been calls to you know, hey,
do we need tougher sentences when it comes to this fraud.
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It's so pervasive, all.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Right, Liz, let's shift gears here. Derek Chauvin might be
this is my opinion, not yours the most legally crapped
on human being in the United States of America in
the last decade. And now I know his lawyers are saying, hey,
can we get this guy out of what's happening with
all this?
Speaker 10 (41:46):
And Jesse also something that has taken place on Governor
Tim Wall's watch. We talk about fraud, but fraud to
me also involves lies. Certainly a lot of them told
in this case. But we have the latest developments with
Derek Chauvin's case, this new court filing in support of
a post conviction relief for Derek Chauvin. It's a seventy
one page petition filed in Hennepin County Court last week
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now alleging prosecutorial misconduct. It's basically Chauvin's last line of defense.
You have his attorney stating that this case never made sense.
Very few murders, he says, take place before a crowd
of witnesses, especially while officers are working with dispatchers and
requesting an ambulance and emergency response right all at the
same time. There's also quite a bit in this questioning
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the video evidence how these so called expert witnesses could
actually even testify at all to the cause of death
of George Floyd. The only person to ever conduct an
autopsy on George Floyd was doctor Andrew Baker. Instead, he's
called fifth in line to testify, and he talks about
how there's no asphyxiation at all that George Floyd suffered from,
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and in fact his findings are cardiopulmonary arrests that George
Floyd in fact died of a heart attack. And you
now have fifty police officers, former and current Minneapolis police
officers that have come forward in this filing to say
that Derek Chauvin was trained in the maximum restraint technique.
They were all trained in MRT, and that is in
fact what he was doing on May twenty fifth, twenty twenty.
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So you have a lot of these, you know, questionable
people who've been called and testified, and many people have
said that they actually committed perjury in Derek Chauvin's case.
So all of that wrapped up into this seventy one
page filing last week to either vacate Chauvin's conviction or
grant him a new trial.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
All right, this, before I let you go, I just
want to nail down on this point. We have these
fifty officers, current informers saying he was trained in this. Well,
this is information that I know you had talked about
back when it mattered before Derek chauvinent prison. So not
insulting them or anyone else involved, because I don't know
the details. Where were these fifty guys back when Derek
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Chauvin was on trial.
Speaker 10 (43:56):
Well, what's interesting is the judge did not allow MRT
the maxim Restraint technique to discussed at trial at all.
They said that Derek Chauvin didn't.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
They didn't.
Speaker 10 (44:05):
He didn't sign his name in the last time it
was trained during MPD, but you know training. But I
think it only adds to the spotlight on the judge
in this case, Judge Peter Cahill, who has since retired,
but there were many questionable rulings that he may have
always said in the case Jesse, it's it's more about
what the jury the jury was not allowed to see
in Derek Chauvin's case, rather than rather than what they were.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Liz, Happy thanksgiving to you. I appreciate it.
Host
Jesse Kelly
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