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August 6, 2025 45 mins

The Department of Justice has launched a grand jury probe into the Russiagate scandal. What will come of it? Jesse Kelly dives into the situation with Rachel Bovard, but not before a tough conversation about immigration's impact on America. You'll also hear from Sean Spicer regarding redistricting and the anticipated gains for Republicans. Plus, David Bozell of the Media Research Center holds the media accountable for their role in covering up a massive scandal.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
We have a bunch of ungrateful foreigners in this country,
and we're going to talk about why Sean Spicer is
here to break down all things politics, Pam Bondy doing
good things, all that coming up on I'm right now.

(00:23):
Let's talk about gratitude, shall we. This is going to
be an immigration talk because we have a bunch of
disloyal foreigners in this country, millions and millions of them,
many of them in elected office. But before we get
to that, because this is going to be a central theme, gratitude.
What creates gratitude? You know, my first car, actually my

(00:45):
second car, my first one that I had to sell
to pay for a scratch on my dad's truck. It's
a long story, but my first real car that I
had for a long time was in nineteen eighty three
Honda Accord. It was the biggest piece of crap in
the world. You could actually see the road through the floorboard.
If you were driving, you could look down you could
just see the road, just parts of it falling off.

(01:07):
I paid six hundred dollars for that car, and I
loved it. I treasured it. The day I went off
to the Marine Corps and had to sell that car.
I was legit, heartbroken, like I was saying goodbye to
an old friend. Why it's a six hundred dollars piece
of crap car because I earned it. I had to

(01:30):
work summer after summer, crappy job after crappy job. I
built up enough and I earned it. And that was
my six hundred dollars and that was my car, and
I took pride in it. Have you ever known or
heard about a kid, maybe a little spoiled, as soon
as he gets his driver's license, parents go out and
buy a brand new Ford Mustang something like that, something

(01:53):
brand new. How's he treat that car? You treat it well?
Does he wreck it? Trash it, scratch it up up?
Ninety nine percent of the time they reckon, they trash it,
they scratch it up. Why because something wonderful was given
to him, not earned, and therefore there's no gratitude, there's

(02:14):
no appreciation for it. And in a way, this is
how human beings, this is how our minds work. In
a way, he kind of resents it. That's what's happened
with immigration in this country. For a very, very very
long time. Citizenship in the United States of America is precious.
This is the greatest country in the history of the world.

(02:36):
With the standard of living other countries, even modern countries,
can only dream of. Citizenship in this country should be
hard to obtain. We should not. I hear this all
the time about and we need to make it easier
for lego immigrants. No, we don't. Citizenship is precious. It
should be hard long, it should be stressful to try

(02:59):
to earn citizenship in the greatest country in the world,
because that produces better citizens. Now, if you just hand
out citizenship willy nilly, no, you can come, and you
can come, and I guess we'll call you a refugee,
and I'll bring fifty thousand of your friends, and now
we'll bring you here and you can come here. When

(03:20):
you just hand it out for years and years and
years and years and years, then what happens is the
people you handed out too don't appreciate it at all.
If anything, they resent it. And we're not talking about
one or two people. This guy in La this girl
in New York City. We have millions of disloyal foreigners,

(03:45):
guests who have arrived in this country by various means,
sometimes legal, sometimes otherwise, and they don't appreciate it. They
don't wake up in the morning and think, oh, I
love America. They resent every everything about this wonderful place
because we gave it away to them. This lady Deliah Ramirez,

(04:07):
she's getting a lot of publicity over the last twenty
four forty eight hours because of something she said. She
went down to Mexico City, stood up at the podium
on camera behind the microphone, and she said this. Now,

(04:28):
I don't expect you to oddlaw, but here's the translation
of what she said. Keep in mind, that is an
elected member of the United States House of Representatives. Matters
of national security, national sovereignty, national economic matters, you name it.
That woman she casts critical votes on your behalf. Her

(04:49):
votes affect your life, the life of your children, the
United States of America itself. What did her words there
translate to quote, I am a proud Guatemalan before I'm
an American. I am a proud Guatemalam before I'm an American.

(05:10):
Why does she think that way because she didn't have
to earn anything. She's an ungrateful, useless anchor baby whose
parents crossed this border illegally, crapped her out in the
city of Chicago, and she has luxuriated her entire life
here instead of freaking Guatemala. She has luxuriated her entire

(05:34):
life in the United States of America, has risen to
the position of United States congressman. She votes on behalf
of this country and the most prestigious legislative body in
the world. And she still doesn't consider herself an American.
She's a Guatemala. So if she's not really an American,

(05:55):
then what exactly is she doing here? Well, it's actually
her response to the controversy. That's the most revealing part
about this. If you're not an American, if you are
a Guatemalan first, if you're not an American, then what
pray tale are you and yours doing here? Here was
her response to all the outrage about what she said.

(06:16):
I'm gonna shorten it up quite a bit, but let's
get right to the important parts. Honoring my Guatemalan ancestry
only strengthens my commitment to America. Of course that's ridiculous,
But let's get to this part. This is the big
part everyone's missing. Quote anyone who denies our claim on

(06:38):
this country. I don't even have to finish the sentence
let's just repeat that again. This is her word, This
is her public response to the outrage anyone who denies
our claim on this country, your claim claim on this country.

(07:04):
If you if you went and found a poor person,
maybe a homeless person, and you brought that person out
of their bad circumstances, and you brought them into your home,
would you ever expect them to say the words of
I've laid claim to the couch in the living room,

(07:25):
I claim it as mine. Or would you expect a
certain amount of gratitude for someone who left a bad
situation and you took them in and now they're in
a good situation. You would expect gratitude. But we don't
get that gratitude from these disloyal foreigners because we allow
all of them to flood in here, and now they

(07:46):
hate us. Now they view themselves not as immigrants, certainly
not as guests. They view themselves as conquerors. That woman
and the people who elect her, her entire demonic constituency,
they're not here to be guests. They're certainly not here
to be citizens. They are here to claim this land

(08:06):
for themselves. An invading army, an invasion force. And by
the way, this same woman, miracle after miracle, this same
woman wants the power to defund ice a conqueror. And

(08:40):
before we move on, because she's certainly not alone here,
I just want to pause real quick and remind you
that it's not Democrats alone who have pushed this concept
out to the world. Come here, everyone can come here.
Everyone's welcome here. We don't want to be mean, we
don't want to be racist. The useless naked Kendall Ginger,
who's the United States Center from the red state of Oklahoma,

(09:01):
did the best he could to amnesty millions of them.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Do you think that whatever you're working on will have
to include a path to citizenship for Dreamers?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I do.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I've been pretty outspoken on that for even last September,
Senator Tillis and I both put out a proposal to
get citizenship for those individuals that are in the doctor
program or were eligible for the doctor program. Because we've
got a group that was in the doctor program, but
we've got a group that never signed up, never went
to the paperwork, for whatever reason they were eligible for it.

(09:29):
We'd like to those individuals to be able to have
access the citizenship as well.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Disloyal foreigners aided by a tiny cabal of unique GOP senators. Oh,
don't think the liar Ramirez is the only one. Elected Democrat.
After elected democrat from every single layer of power in
this country have uttered words similar to this. Ilan Omar
says this stuff every day, Dula.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Well concerned.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Does that sound like a guest, A grateful guest. Keep
in mind, Ihan Omar wasn't born here. She was brought
to this country as a refugee. She was brought to
this country from maybe the worst place on planeturs on
planet Earth. That place is known as Somalia, a place
full of famine, death, female genital mutilation, run by warlords

(10:27):
in a despicable country in every possible way. And that
vile little Marxist was plucked out of that hell hole
and brought to the greatest country on the planet. And
she doesn't wake up, and she doesn't go to sleep
full of gratitude for the country where she now resides.
She views herself as a representative of the conquerors of

(10:48):
this land. She is here to conquer and pillage the
United States of America. Not a guest, no gratitude. And
this has been going on for decades. Democrats have driven it.
Republic have protected it at every single possible turn, And
while they're here, they'll get on camera and say stuff
like this.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Here in Congress, we are fighting back every single day.
We are fighting to protect immigrant families from mass detention
and deportation. I would say our country should be more
fearful of white man across our country because they are
actually causing most of the deaths.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Within this country. We should be profiling, monitoring, and creating
policies to fight the rticalization of white men.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah. I know everyone's happy about the secure border right now.
I know I certainly am as well. In credit to
the Trump administration for securing the border. Looks like we're
going to have a negative net migration for the first
time in fifty years. All these things are very good things.
It's not near enough. It's time to start denaturalizing and
deporting these people. That's not an extreme step, that's the
moderate solution. The second you get up on camera, especially

(12:06):
as a member of the House of Representatives, and announce
that you're there in service to a separate foreign country,
announced that your loyalty lies with a foreign country, you
shouldn't just be stripped of your committee assignments and kicked
out of the House of Representatives. You should be removed,
your citizenship should be removed, and you should be on
the next deportation flight with all the other scumbags who

(12:26):
came here illegally. It's time to start denaturalizing and deporting people.
We have to get rid of these vile little conquerors
in our midst who walked into our living room with
our grace, with our kindness, and they've now did what
word did she use? Claim the place? All that may

(12:48):
have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. This actually
leads me perfectly to more redistricting talk. What is happening here.
There's nobody better to talk about this stuff than Sean
Spice or I love. When Sean comes on, we'll talk
to him in a moment. Before we talk to Sean Spicer.
We have a long battle ahead of us, you and

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Speaker 6 (14:19):
These extremists want to be able to choose their voters,
as opposed to allowing the Texas voters to choose the
people who should be privileged to represent them in Washington.
It's that this is what Jerry Manderin in its extreme form,
is this war.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
We are at war, and that's why the gloves are off,
and I say bring it on. They expect us to
take the punch and say thank you.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Well, I am here to tell you not only are
we gonna punch back, but we about to beat you down.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
We're at war. I think it's quite that extreme, but
I don't know. Maybe we should ask Sean about it.
Joining me now, Sean Spicer of the Great Sean Spicer's show, Sean,
this is war. But what's actually happening politics? That's not.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
I mean, it's amazing, by the way.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
You see all these Texas Democrats running to political sanctuary
cities Boston, Chicago, New York. These are the new sanctuary cities.
They're just political sanctuary cities. Now there's an irony in
all this Jesse, which is that all of these same
places that they're running to. New York tried to do
redistricting last cycle. The court actually shut them down. Illinois

(15:35):
has Jerrymander to no one's you know, I.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Mean to the nth degree. You look at what they've
done to Maryland.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
There's one Republican left, Andy Harris, and he's connected by
a bridge. Literally, a bridge is what connects this district.
It's just funny.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
What's good for the goose is never good for the gander.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
The media and the left won't tell you this but
you know, I don't mean to sound like an eight
year old. They started it, They did that, and they're
just pissed, frankly, that Republicans are doing exactly what they've
done all along. They never thought that we would actually
take a play from their playbook. But that's exactly what's happened.
I mean, go look at Illinois or Massachusetts or Maryland,

(16:15):
countless other states. The bottom line is Democrats have led
the way in partisan jerrymandering. And you know, look, I'm
not a huge fan of what's going on in Texas,
not because I don't think that they deserve it. I'm
actually more concerned about whether or not it's good in
the long run for us. I think we can pick
up two of the seats, two of the five seats,
the Henry Quayar seat and the Vincente seat probably on

(16:39):
our own. That gets us too, without any potential repercussions. So,
but that being said, just on a political basis, this
idea that we're at war, If that's a war, then
let's be honest.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
They started it, okay, Sean.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
So there's a couple of things I want to dig
into here. Why is Gavin Newsom getting involved in running
his mouth about this. Why is Kathy Hogel, governor of
New York, saying we're at war? Why is JB. Pritzker
waddling up to the microphone in Illinois defending Texas Democrats.
It's a Texas thing. These are governors of states that
aren't Texas. What am I missing?

Speaker 8 (17:17):
Well, I think fundamentally what and you're not missing this?
The bottom line is the Democratic Party is rudderless and
leaderless right now. So these folks are looking for anything
that they possibly can grab onto to show that they're
willing to fight. Right Gavin Newsom, just to be clear,
California law prohibits what he's doing, So what he's talking

(17:37):
about is potentially going to call a special session. Kathy
Hochel knows that any reform wouldn't happen for two to
four years. They're just look, they're grasping at straws, not
because they'll actually do anything right. And this is where
the media is lying to us. That number one, reminding
anyone that all of these states led the way and

(17:58):
partisan redistricting.

Speaker 7 (17:59):
That's kind of a key fact.

Speaker 8 (18:02):
Number two, none of these states that are looking at
quote unquote retaliating can actually do something in the short term.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
They're posturing.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
They're trying to you know, in the case of Gavin
Newsom and Pritzker in particular, they think that somehow this
is gonna win them plot it's if they plot a
presidential run. I was the guy who fought back against Texas.
I'm the one who did. But the reality is, again,
what no one wants to tell you, as Paul Harvey
used to say, is the rest of the story, and
the rest of the story is is that the Democrat
pushback won't actually yield any short term results. Maybe in

(18:33):
the long term, who knows. But the bottom line is
they're just trying to posture, to show that at a
current state, with the Democratic Party having no leaders, no
one who's willing to fight, no one who's got the
gumption take on Trump, these people are looking at anything
they can to say, see, I'm the person that will
fight for you.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
It's complete nonsense.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Okay, switching gears from the redistricting thing, because you and
I could nerd out on that for a very long time.
What's going on with the DOJ and the voter rules
and why are Dems matter about that?

Speaker 7 (19:05):
Well, look, I'm sure you know this from watching my
show every night.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
But I had Harmeie Dillan on my show last night
to walk up this is a civil rights thing. These
states have ignored their obligation to clean up the voter roles,
and it's it always has amazed me, Like if you
look at the states that failed to act, that failed
to clean up their roles, they're almost entirely run by Democrats.

(19:28):
And one has to ask the obvious question, well, why
wouldn't you do this unless you actually wink nod wanted
to use the weakness and the sort of inaccuracies of
voter roles to your benefit somehow. And and Harmeet pointed
out to me that, like, look, there are several instances
where people who admit that they didn't vote had a

(19:51):
vote cast on their behalf on a voter rule.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
But that's why they're doing it.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
They have the federal government is leaning on these states
that refused to clean up their voter rules to do
what they're legally obligated to do. And I gave Harme
this great example when I was in the White House.
I grew up in Rhode Island and there was a
store that said Spicer still registered to vote.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
In Rhode Island.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
Okay, well, I hadn't since I was in college. But
the Rhode Island Secretary of State had never done their job,
and so it wasn't my faul.

Speaker 7 (20:22):
I didn't break any law. I didn't vote to states,
I never I did what I'm supposed to. When you
register to.

Speaker 8 (20:26):
Vote in a new state, in my case, Virginia, they
send a note to the state that says, mister Sean
Spicer is now registered in Virginia out Rhode Island. But
why wouldn't the state of Rhode Island clean up their
voter rules. Why isn't Illinois cleaning up their voter rules?
Why aren't all of these Democratic states cleaning up their
voter roles, unless one could only surmise that they had

(20:46):
some nefarious reason for not doing it. That's the job
of a secretary of state, and when they're not doing it,
you have to ask a simple question why. And it's
a pattern in now multiple states with the same thing
going on. And I think Harmeie Dillon in the Department
of Justice is now taking that leadership role and demanding

(21:06):
that they do what they are legally required to do.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Sean, what's going on in North Carolina. Tom Tillis is
thankfully riding off into the sunset. But now we have
a very purple state and we're going to have a
war here on our hands. Who are the players and
who's going to win?

Speaker 8 (21:25):
So you've got their former governor, Roy Cooper running in
the Democrat and I'll be honest, it's going to be
extremely formidable who raise a.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
Ton of money.

Speaker 8 (21:33):
And now I think officially former R and C chairman
Michael Wattley, who had been the chairman of the state
party there, very well known, very well integrated into the
state party politics, is now going to be the Republican nominee. Look, Jesse,
I'm going to tell you this straight up, that race,
to me is going to be the ultimate proxy fight
going into these midterm elections. It's literally as even of

(21:54):
a playing field as you can possibly ask for. The
Democrats got very lucky by Roy Cooper. He was very
well liked. I think he's a very he's a big
liberal and let's face it, he'd be a proxy for
Truck Schumer. But at the end of the day, he's
going to raise a ton of money. There's probably going
to be upwards of billion, probably two billion, dollars with
a bee spent in North Carolina to make it a

(22:17):
very very competitive state. That being said, as they said,
Wattley not only with the former Republican state chairman of
North Carolina, but now has served what three two years,
three years as the national party chairman, the Republican Party chairman.
That's important because he's had access to a nationwide donor
network that he'll be able to now call on, and

(22:38):
he has the backing, the full backing of President Trump
and getting in this race, he was President Trump's recruited candidate.
So when Wattley gets in, he's going to have the
backing of the Trump apparatus, the political apparatus, and by
the way, and and by the way, and all the
the the money that you know, the access to donors.
Here's a key statistic that that needs to.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
Be known right now.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
The RNC he has just north of eighty three thousand,
excuse me, eighty three million dollars cash on hand. The
DNC is about thirteen million. But President Trump and his
super pack have just shy of thirty hundred million dollars,
right so you think about what that and there's no
such apparatus at the Democratic level to counteract that. So

(23:20):
the Republicans mechanically and financially are going into the midterms
in a much much greater degree than the Democrats are.
We're talking about a three hundred plus million dollar war
chest versus thirteen million dollars that is going to give
Republicans a massive, massive advantage to do voter registration, data enhancements,

(23:42):
get out the vote efforts, advertising, And I think this
is where the the Roy Cooper's are going to have
a problem is keeping up with that machine. Watley is
going to be someone that President Trump wants to make
sure wins that race because he was the one that
got him in and he obviously his handpicked selector to
run the RNC.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Alright, Sean, real quick, I understand you have a prediction
for who's going to be the Republican twenty twenty eight nominee.
It's JD. Vance, right A Rubio or de Santis.

Speaker 8 (24:15):
It's not even I will go as far as not
just saying that the nominee. I believe the next president
the United States is JD.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Vance.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Right now.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
Jad Vance has masterfully handled his job as as Vice president.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Is he is?

Speaker 8 (24:28):
I mean, you talk about the not just the political
piece of this, but I mentioned the finance thing. He
is the first sitting vice president to serve as finance
chair for the R and C. So he is literally
cultivating a massive donor network before our very eyes. Last
week he was in Nantucket raising over three hundred million
Im excuse you, three million dollars in one night.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
This is going to be a huge advantage for JD.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Vance.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
I don't think.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
I think he may get some kind of nominal opposition,
but I think if he continues the job he's doing
right now, he may close to the nomination.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
You know what, That would work for me. I like JD. John,
Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. That would work for me.
I'm not going to complain as much as I can
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slash Jesse TV. We'll be back. So we're going to
get a grand jury. That's the word on the street.
Pam Bondi's ordered a grand jury. What does that mean?

(26:28):
Are we are we actually going to see a government
person go to prison? That never happens. I don't know.
Let's ask Rachel about it. Joining me now, Rachel Bovard,
Vice president of the Conservative Partnership Institute, Rachel Okay, explain
to me this grand jury thing. I'm trying not to
get my hopes up as someone going to jail.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, this is the first step in the process if
they are. You know, we've seen Pambondi issue a one
page summary directing the impanelment of a grand jury. Now,
as everyone knows from years watching this watching too much
crime TV, potentially grand jury's are secret, but they do
compel testimony from witnesses that the government calls. So it

(27:09):
could be the case that we see James Clapper, Jim Comey,
maybe even Hillary Clinton or someone from her campaign be
summoned before this grand jury. And the grand jury is
there to determine if the charges presented by the government
have enough evidence to provide an indictment, and that is
the first step in potentially putting someone in jail. So

(27:30):
this is something we'll see the DOJ working with the
US Attorney, potentially Judge Denine. We don't know, but she
is so far the only US attorney the Donald Trump
has nominated that has been confirmed by the Senate, so
she's probably in charge.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Okay, so forgive my stupid questions, But I'm stupid, So
I asked them, can't they just clam up? Okay, if
I drag in Hillary Clinton, if I drag in Clapper,
any one of these scumbags, can't they just say, well,
I plead fifth, I'm not talking. That's what they've been doing.
When it comes to the Biden.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Stuff they can, and you know, I think a lot
of legal experts suspect they will. But this is not
the only thing the grand jury is going to hear, right,
The government is going to present mountains of evidence to
support its case, and Pambondi clearly thinks there is enough
evidence to support the claims and the you know, the
indictments that they are pursuing because we not only have

(28:25):
you know, all of the things that these people have
been saying in public for the last you know, eight
to ten years, we also now have all of these
unsealed reports, namely the HIPSI, the House Permanent Select Committee
on Intelligence. They're completely unsealed report that has been hidden
away that was just declassified by Tulci Gabbert. She found
it in a bunch of burn bags. And in that

(28:46):
report we have evidence contradicting what these people have been
saying in public. For instance, just as recently as the
end of July, James Clapper and James Comey wrote an
otbed in The New York Times claiming we never used
the Steele dossier as part of the Intelligence Community Assessment,
the ICA that was ordered by President Obama. We've testified

(29:07):
under oath that it didn't play a critical role in
all of the investigations that followed.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
Well.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
The report, the House Report, completely contradicts this narrative. And
if the government can show that there is a conspiracy
against rights, that's a federal charge. If they can show
that there is an ongoing criminal conspiracy to manipulate evidence
to cover up the truth, that's a federal charge that
could stick. It doesn't have a statute of limitations as
long as the federal conspiracy is ongoing. So this is

(29:34):
something that we could see stick regardless of their testimony,
as long as the government can.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
Make its case.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, I'm going to ask you to do some guessing here,
but I don't understand legal matters. If we do get indictments,
Lord Willing, we will get indictments. Where are we getting them?
Everyone knows why I'm asking that question. If it's in DC,
might as well not have it at all. Where would
these things take place? And when.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Those are unknowable things? But I'll give you my best,
my best guess. You've seen John Solomon Report. You know
that this could be done in Florida. It could be
close to actually where a lot of the mar a
lago raid cases. It took place in that district court there.
We could see them there. But and grand jury's tend
to work somewhat quickly, you know, depending on the complexity

(30:24):
of the arguments for the government's making. This could take
you know, several weeks to a month. But it's not
a super drawn out process, so we could get an
answer to this, you know, fairly quickly. And I will
just say this is just you know, my political hat
at this point in my mind, this is a no
fail exercise for Pambondi because, as you said at the outset,
we never see people in government go to jail. We

(30:46):
never see people held accountable for anything, you know, people
that were already tried to being held accountable in this process.
Kevin Klinesmith, who manipulated the FAISA warrant against Carter Page,
got a slap on the wrist. The LLANIE that he
pleaded guilty to came with a five year prison sentence
and a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine maximum.

(31:06):
He didn't serve a single day in jail, and this
cannot stand with regard to russigates. So it is my
firm hope and belief that Pam Bondy is bringing the goods,
because I just think it is. You're going to make
people feel completely demoralized and disenfranchised. If once again we
are presented with the evidence of the layers and layers

(31:28):
of corruption that have happened at the height of our
government by the people in power, and absolutely no one
is held accountable. There is something to be said for
no one is above the law and people need to
be in orange jumpsuits and handcuffs as the codea to
the story.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Rachel, thank you, ma'am. I appreciate you very much. Somebody does.
I've said it before. Someone has to burn for this.
We can't have another one. We can have another case
that's cut and dry. Government people committed crimes and no

(32:05):
one goes to prison, or we're going to go to
a bad, bad place in this country. Almost as bad
as the olive oil that's on your shelf. Look, don't
get mad at me. You have bad oil. Olive oil.
It's old. It's been on your shelf for I don't
know how long. How long has it been there? Do
you know how long it was on the grocery store
shelf before you bought it? Are all of oils old

(32:27):
and flavorless and bland and crappy. And that's why we
have farm fresh two four six dot com. What is it?
They'll grab you olive oil fresh from a farm and
ship it to you. Ah, you're skeptical. Hang at that.
Why don't you get a free bottle. They'll send you
a thirty nine dollars bottle of olive oil at no charge.

(32:48):
You pay like a buck to cover the shipping. Try it.
Try one bottle and you will be all, Oh, no,
my olive oil has been old. Farm fresh two four
six dot com. We'll be bad. Russia hacked the election.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Russia hacked the election. Russia hacked the election.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Russia hacked the election.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
Let's be clear, Russia hacked the election.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Definitively.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Russia hacked the election, and Russia is doing it again now.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
The head of the National Security Agency, the head of
the FBI, all of these intelligence experts saying Russia hacked
the intelligence. Russia hacked the election.

Speaker 9 (33:32):
The FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the former Director of
National Intelligence, James Clapperman, they've all said this. So to
believe that that's wrong, you have to believe they're all
involved in an elaborate conspiracy to get Donald Trump, which
seems a little far fetched to me.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Joining me now, the great David Bosel of the MRC,
President of the MRC, the Media Research Center. Okay, David,
obviously the media was complicit pushing that out to the public.
But the question I have for you, because you would
know this far better than I would, why is it
just that there are all a bunch of crazy Libs.

(34:10):
Is it that they work hand in hand with the
ugly agencies of this country? Why did they all fall
in line immediately and justify the means to the left.
It's an imhorrant principle, but they live in by it.
And when you have control over these major apparatus of government,

(34:30):
sometimes you do things that you don't. No normal person
would think, I'm going to engineer the entire federal government
apparatus against a businessman who just threw his hat into
the ring and just so happened to win the presidency.
And this was also legacy preservation on Obama's part. He
had remember at the time, Republicans have been pledging to

(34:53):
repeal Obamacare, replace Obamacare, and undo his entire presidency eight
years of work, and we live in the executive order era,
Jesse Congress does very little, passing won two bills a year.

Speaker 10 (35:06):
So when you live in the executive order era, the
executive of the presidency becomes infinitely more important. So when
you have those government gouls at your disposal and you
want to preserve your legacy and you know that the
guy coming up behind you is going to undo it,
you're going to get tempted to do some unruly things
to trip him up.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
At a minimum.

Speaker 10 (35:27):
The media spent over two thousand minutes claiming exactly in
that montage what you just saw, guys, that Russians were
guilty of hacking into the election. I'll use their claim
that they use against President Trump all the time. Those
were baseless accusations at time and time again. So two
thousand minutes devoted to this and his hopes. And when

(35:49):
the president suggests that the media is the enemy of
the people, this is the story that he's talking about.
This right here is the number one stories that he's
talking about. Because he knew in his gut that Russia
never helped him, never moved one single solitary vote in
his direction. He knew it, and he knew that they
knew it, and he knew that they were lying. And

(36:11):
so when he calls the press, the animatey of people
in front of his crowds, with the press behind the
rope lines and all those things, this is the story
that he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Jesse David. So the ends justify the means. Obviously you're
correct about that. You can't come to any other collusion
but conclusion. But if you were, if you're Jake Tapper,
any one of those people, it doesn't matter, any one
of those people on every channel, and you sit down
and you push a lie like the incoming president or

(36:41):
current president depending on the date, he's only there because
of Russia, and you know it's a lie. How do
you sleep at night and think that you're the good
guy in that story. I just don't understand. I can't
wrap my mind around that. Even people I hate, and
I hate all kinds of people, I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 10 (36:58):
Yeah, I don't think they sleep. I don't think they
think that they're the good guy in this story. And
this is I don't think that even crosses their mind
for them. When you have Trump arrangement syndrome, which is
what a number of them had developed at this particular
time when you when you believe your own when you
believe your own talking points that democracy is at risk

(37:21):
because the New York real estate developer had assumed the presidency.
When you start believing that in your head and going
to the caveat caviat and wine cocktail parties night after
night after night, and that's all that your buddies can
talk about, this is the kinds of things that you'll
end up doing. This is why they won't cover it now.
They would have to admit their complicity in the whole

(37:42):
in the whole scam. And uh And and so you know, again,
like like I said, over two thousand minutes devoted to
this as as the so called scandal was unfolding. Now
that I think they've I think we've counted up there
close to five minutes, you know, so far something like that,
you know, through this week. So they so cover it

(38:04):
now would to be would to admit their own culpability
in this whole deal.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (38:09):
And they also wanted they were addicted to power to
I mean, these are I mean, these are basic human emotions, right,
and so they were addicted to being close to the
President Obama. President Obama was the cool kid on the
political block. Right, he was a cool kid in town.
He had been senator for just a year. Then he
rises rapidly to become the president, and every every uh

(38:32):
a facet of the Washington press court needed to get
in with him, needed to get in with his people.
His people had descended on Washington from Chicago. They needed
to cover him glowingly. And as those eight years developed,
they developed all those friendships and relationships. And that's how
when you when you when you see Trump as the
successor and he's pledged to overturn and undo your entire legacy,

(38:57):
they went, they went h guns out, guns blazes to
to destroy President's Trump.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
All Right, you say they're addicted to power, and obviously
that's correct. But aren't they losing it? Because in large
part because of things like this that people are you
guys talk about this all the time with the wonderful MRC.
People are changing the channel, the ratings are going down.
We're seeing such a hemorrhaging of money that people are
getting fired the power because they abused it is being

(39:27):
taken from them. How can they not see that?

Speaker 10 (39:30):
Yeah, it's a tough it's a tough deal to equate
so yeah, the ratings are sinking like a stone. I mean,
CNN lost fifty percent of its audience from the twenty
twenty election night to the twenty twenty four election night.
I mean fifty percent. This is the adult audience. So
I mean just trading. The networks are creating creatoring. CBS
is essentially through Paramount and the takeover from Skydance, they

(39:54):
face quite a bit of up people in their news operation,
and what's going to happen there is going to be
anybody's guest guests. So yes, the ratings are creating creating. However,
I was just looking at readership charts from the top
news websites in America. New York Times is still number one,
number one ranked news website in America. Now a lot
of people are going to play word o and crossword

(40:16):
puzzles and then explains it, but there's still number one,
Google News, Apple News, Microsoft, MSN dot com. These guys
are all in the top ten of readership nationwide. All
of these networks CBS, CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, New York Times,
all these people, all these operations that perpetrated this hoax

(40:39):
are embedded in Microsoft, Google, and Apple's news presentation. So
millions upon millions of people are still reading this and
digesting their presentation of the news, albeit headlines aggregated. But
it's not watching these guys. You know, people are not
going to anchors and home pages for the news anymore.

(41:01):
They're going to aggregators now. So these networks have embedded
themselves into the big tech apparatus. You'll go on Google News,
go on Apple Idea, anybody, go on Yahoo, the big aggregators.
It will be all the liberal networks, one after the
other after the other, after the other. Then they'll squeeze
in a Fox, right, maybe they'll squeeze in a bright Bar,
and then there'll be one after the other after the

(41:23):
other of more liberal networks, more liberal reporting. So it's
very negative against Republicans. It's very negative against Trump. And
this is why now he uses it to his political advantage. Right,
no one, no Republican, has ever used hatred by the
media to their political advantage as well as President Trump.

(41:45):
And I would actually submit that that's why he's a
two time president, because he's done that so well.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
So it sounds like what we're looking at is a facade.
They have more clicks, they have more ratings, they have
more readership because just like these dirty communists always do,
they're just working together. They're working together. The Google's going
to hold up the New York Times, Microsoft is going
to hold up YAKA. They're all going to work together.

Speaker 10 (42:09):
Yeah, they had their believable their believability rate, I think
it is Gallup had. The last latest one was in April.
It's in the low thirties. I mean, I think Pelosi
has a better approval rating than some of these liberal
priople networks, believe it or not, so they're in the
believability rates in the toilet. I think almost half the
country has statistically no trust.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
In the media.

Speaker 10 (42:33):
I think that numbers are on forty four percent. That's
half the country that has no trust in any media whatsoever.
It's because these guys who are dominating the airways by
quantity and dominating our social feeds and our aggregator feeds
also by quantity, have been wrong and purposely wrong for

(42:53):
the better part of the last eight to ten. I mean,
covering first for the Obama administration and then just dogging
the Trump administration, and then and then trying to sell
us this hooker with a harder gold routine. Uh that
that Joe Biden was walking around. You know, no problem healthy,
totally a cube, totally on it, you know, no problem

(43:14):
holding the nuclear football, et cetera, et cetera. So that's
why these guys have no trust anymore within the American
public at large. It's a terrific opportunity for shows such
as Yourself or networks like The First to just squeeze
through and come forward with the truth. People were dying
for a fare presentation of the news. So it's a

(43:35):
terrific opportunity for the center right ecosystem to sign here.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
David, thank you for what you do. Man, appreciate you.
Lighten the mood. All right, it's time to lighten the mood.
And you know why. I have two sons, wife and

(44:02):
two sons, and there's something that my wife can't wrap
her mind around. Why we all think farts are funny.
When we see someone or I should say hears someone
or smells someone do it in public, it makes us laugh.
We snicker. When they do it in front of her
and she starts screaming and yelling, we all start laughing.
And I don't have an explanation for that, Ladies, I

(44:24):
don't know why. I find it funny. Dudes find it funny,
especially when someone farts in church. I see them all
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