June 24, 2025 • 45 mins
The United States struck Iran's nuclear facilities, entering America into the Middle Eastern conflict. So what happens now? Jesse Kelly gives his take on it all. Mike Cernovich joins the show to warn of a massive propaganda campaign already taking place. Plus, some devastating news for Democrats as Kamala Harris plots her next move. John Phillips joins Jesse to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is it World War three? We'll talk about the Israel
Iran thing tonight. Mike Cernovich joins us. He has some
thoughts about bad democrats losing their minds, all that and
more coming up. But I'm right, right, let's talk about
(00:25):
the Midnight Hammer. No, I am not just going to
discuss Lindsey Graham and any of those things right now.
We're talking about America's bomb dropping on Iran. It happened
over the weekend. I'm not naive. I know you've already
seen the footage of it. I know you've already seen
opinions about the whole thing. If you were watching I'm
(00:46):
right last week, you weren't shocked because we said it
was coming. Here's how he clearly stands now, when you
call for unconditional surrender, when you take that stance, whatever
you believe about it, right or wrong, when you take
that stance, then you have guaranteed it's about to get hot.
(01:11):
It was coming. Trump had already made his decision when
he called for that. When you call for unconditional surrender,
you're going When you start mobilizing units. This isn't just modern.
In ancient history, you start mobilizing units, you raise an
army and march them one hundred miles to an enemy city.
You're going to war. You're going to do something. When
you start sailing carrier groups over to the Middle East,
(01:35):
you're going to bomb somebody. Someone's getting something dropped on them.
And so it happened. Now after it, Trump addressed the nation,
said some interesting things. Here, here's what you said.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
A short time ago, the US military carried out massive
precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the
Iranian regime. Our objective was the destruction of irans nuclear
inducement capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed
by the world's number one state sponsor of terror. Tonight,
(02:11):
I can report to the world that the strikes were
a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear and Richmond facilities
have been completely and totally obliterated. Around the bully of
the Middle East must now make peace. If they do not,
future attacks would be far greater and a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, Now, let's have a discussion about what we've seen,
what we've done so far. And here's the thing. It's
easy and very common to celebrate things as if things
happen in a vacuum. You wake up. Actually didn't wake
up because we were awake. It was nighttime when it
(02:55):
happened here. I remember it was it Friday, Saturday night.
I was on my phone and I started getting these notifications.
Oh my gosh, you wake up and find out that
we're bombing the living crap out of Iran's nuclear facilities.
As an American, hard not to cheer for that. They
are the world's largest state sponsor of terror in Iraq.
(03:17):
We lost a lot of people because of Iran. Iran,
after our invasion, trained and equipped a lot of people.
And those IEDs, remember those days, those IEDs that were
always going off, blowing people up, blowing their heads off,
blowing off limbs. We have how many iraq Bets are
watching this show right now, missing an arm, missing their
legs because of Iran. We have a long list of
(03:41):
grievances with Iran, including the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
And therefore we wake up and we see a bunch
of explosions. It's Iran. It's hard not to stand up
in cheer when a bad guy gets what's coming to him.
And if you did, you were not alone. I did too.
In that moment. It feels good here, get them. They
(04:04):
deserve it. Okay, nothing wrong with that at all. But
life doesn't happen in a vacuum. Foreign policy doesn't happen
in a vacuum. Things are complicated. So let's talk about
a few things here. First, when it comes to war
politics in general, but when it comes to war, there
(04:26):
is an ancient proverb that is undeniably true. In war,
the first casualty is the truth. Let me say that again.
In war, the first casualty is the truth. So I
want you to understand something, and I say this as
the most patriotic, ugly American on the planet. Everybody lies.
(04:49):
They've been lying, and they will continue to lie. Some
of that is a necessity, but it's just how it
goes in war. The good guys lie, the bad guys lie.
Different people lie for different reasons. It's going to be
very difficult as we move forward, if all this moves forward,
to suss out what is true and what is not.
(05:11):
And let me tell you this. The people running to
you telling you they know absolutely that this is one
hundred percent true, and anyone else is a liar. Those
people are liars or they're naive. What is true We
don't know. It's going to be very difficult to sift
through that, and always has been. What is paid propaganda?
(05:33):
What is somebody who just got a hold of an
old video acted like it was a modern video. What
about the uranium in Richmond? What's the truth there? We
were told Iran was about to have a nuke, They
were right on the they're right there, and now we're told, well,
I mean, maybe the uranium wasn't there. Maybe what's true?
(05:54):
I don't know, because guess what we are lying? Israel
is lying, Iran is lying. Everybody, the media is lying,
the military's lying. All of everyone minds in war. So
just know that everything, even when we celebrate some bombs
blowing up some Iran and nuclear facilities, everything should be
taken with a sober mind, a sober mind, take things in.
(06:17):
That's one. Two. Do you ever do any construction or
know anyone who did, ever been involved in a construction
project of any kind? You know, I come from a
construction family. That's what we did for a living. That's
what the Kellys do. It's what my dad did, it's
what his dad did, It's what I did for construction people.
And so let me tell you this. It's complicated and
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you're going to run into problems. Now why would I
bring that up. Well, let's say you live in a house.
This house is rotted and it's always giving you problems,
costing you money. You got termites, the electrical fires, the
roof is leaking. The house is an absolute nightmare. And
you make the decision, you know what, we are going
(07:04):
to tear this house down and we are going to rebuild.
We will rebuild something better. Okay, fine, understandable. The day
you tear the house down, that's a celebration, right, Hey,
look at that headache, that mountain or that mountain of problems,
that cash money.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Pit, it's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It's a great day. It's a good day. Celebrate. That's
fine to feel good. But you have not rebuilt the
new house yet. And anybody who's ever been involved in
any kind of construction knows there are going to be problems.
There are gonna be material delays. You're gonna have contractors
who don't show up, go out of business, show up
and do shoddy work. The permitting process is a nightmare.
(07:47):
Rebuilding the new one is necessary, and there are going
to be problems. So when you tear down the old one.
Don't celebrate as if the new one is built and
the deed is done. And I say this because there's
this term being floated around a lot now, and we're
(08:08):
getting a lot of mixed messaging. As I said, everybody
lies the term being regime change.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
This mission was not and has not been about regime change.
The President authorized a precision operation to neutralize the threats
to our national interests posed by the Iranian nuclear program.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, so we're not doing regime change, or are we?
Because after that, Donald Trump went to social media and
said this, this is a direct quote. It's not politically
correct to use the term regime change, but if the
current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again,
why wouldn't there be a regime change? So it's hard
(08:53):
to take that as anything other than advocating for regime change.
But then we have Carolinelevitt come out today and try
to do some cleanup on it.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
The President believes the Iranian people can control their own destiny,
and what he said last night makes complete sense. If
the Iranian regime refuses to come to a peaceful diplomatic solution,
which the President is still interested and engaging and by
the way, why shouldn't the Iranian people take away the
power of this incredibly violent regime that has been suppressing
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them for decades? And so our posture has not changed,
Our military posture has not changed. These were decisive, precision
strikes that were successful on Saturday evening. But the President
is just simply raising a good question that many people
around the world are asking.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, now let's discuss the history of that. Then what's
going on here? Because it's important to have perspective. Again,
things don't happen in a vacuum. History has led us
to where we are now. World War One. Don't worry,
I'm not going to go into a long history for
you here. But World War One, world War One, you know,
it kicks off Germany, France, Britain. Eventually later on we
(10:10):
get in the war. But after World War One, we
decided Germany was the bad guy, which is very debatable
when it comes to World War One, but either way,
the world decided they're the bad guy. And after we
had killed a bunch of Germans and Germans had killed
a bunch of other people, we decided to simply punish Germany.
(10:30):
No help, no nothing, horrible reparations, taking valuable chunks of
their territory from them. Essentially no sugar cubes, just the
whip you did wrong. And after that, well, that led
directly to the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis.
It led directly to it a down and out Germany.
(10:52):
People looking around, massive inflation, Germany crushed, and you have
this Demigg rising who gave a great speech telling them
you're the best. You're in Germany, let's rise again. And
then World War two came. World War II was a
direct result of how we handled the end of World
War One, and the lesson the world took from that.
(11:16):
An understandable lesson was when you fight a war against somebody,
you can't just beat the crap out of them and
walk away. You have to help them afterwards, help them rebuild.
After World War II, we practically moved into Japan and
rebuilt their entire country after we'd bombed it. The Smithereens
rebuilt their entire government and now they're close allies today.
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And the lessons we took from that we carried into
places like Iraq and Afghanistan where we didn't like Saddam Hussein,
we didn't like the Taliban in Afghanistan, and so yes,
we can go in, and we did go in and
smash their armies and bomb them the smithereens. But then,
of course we have to handle the regime change, right.
(12:01):
We can't just go kill Saddam and let them go.
We have to step in here and help these people alone.
But we didn't do it well. Twenty years later, all
that blood, all that treasure, all those lives, all those limbs,
it's hard to look at it and call it anything
(12:23):
but a colossal failure. And I say that miserable hot boxes.
It's hard to say it was anything but a colossal failure.
Now that brings us to Iran. Donald Trump is very
good at foreign policy. It's very sharp, very very sharp.
But we are entering dangerous territory here. And I'm not
(12:44):
calling it dangerous territory because I'm afraid of the Iranian response.
I know about those stupid missiles today that got shot
down right away, Ron launched some missiles at us who
shot him down. I'm not talking about that being the
real danger. The real danger is what if we bring
down their regime? And I hate their regime, it's an
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evil regime. What if we bring it down, what rises?
You get answers that are unbelievably vague and naive. You
get answers what the Iranian people will decide? Are you
watching a movie? You think this is a game. Do
you know what happens when that happens? You know what happens? Well,
I let the people decide. What happens is if you're
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gonna wash your hands of it, the guy with the
most guns, he ends up running the country. Are you
sure that man is better than the one they currently have?
I'm not. You're not. Nobody is. Don't let anybody lie
to you. Nobody is. Okay, So you don't want to
wash your hands up? Are you gonna get involved again?
Are we gonna go the John Bolton round?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
How do you feel about regime change as a US goal?
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Well, I think it should be america declared policy. The
regime itself is the problem here, has been all along,
both through its nuclear program, it's ballistic missile program, its
support for terrorist groups in the Middle East around the world.
This regime has been in power forty six years. It
will not change its behavior. So the only foundation for
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long term peace and security in the Middle East is
to overthrow the Iotolis.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
John Bolton was alone. Don't think that was just some
loan wacko on CNN. Republican senators, Republican politicians that have
been quite frank about it. We most certainly need to
have regime change in Iran. This is the same regime
that's threatened America and Americans time for regime change.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
And I believe that this president should be given a
fair amount of leeway to a fact that.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
It's time to close the chapter on the Iran and
Iotolin his henchmen.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Let's close that chapter soon and start a new chapter
in the Mid East, one of tolerance, open peace.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We are entering a very dangerous game here, and again
I want to stress I know Iran has some terrorist abilities.
They don't have really legitimate military capabilities, some missiles that
aren't going to be accurate. I'm not My concerns are
not irong Iran's military capabilities. My concerns are the very
dangerous game we're walking into. And as I mentioned already,
(15:28):
everybody is lying and everybody will continue to lie, And
to say I'm apprehensive would be putting it mild. Just watch, pray,
sift through the information. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right. Mike Cernovich is very uncomfortable. He's
very upset with everything going on. Let's talk to Mike
(15:50):
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Speaker 7 (16:48):
This wasn't a regime change move. This was designed to
degrade and or destroy three nuclear sites related to their
nuclear weaponization ambitions. I don't like the regime, but we're
not into the regime change business. We're into the safety
and security of the United States business.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I've got a bit of whiplash. I know you do too.
There's not going to be regime change. We're not in
the regime change. We want the regime to change. We
got to have the regime to change. No, but we're
not going to change the regime. We might change the regime.
What are we doing? Remember what I just told you
in the open that everybody lies, including the good guys
joining me now, Mike Cernovich, who is all kinds of
spicy about this whole thing. Obviously, you know Mikey joins
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us often, and I owe him not just for making
great documentaries, but for hooking me up with some massive chips,
which now I'm addicted to. Okay, Mike, before we get
to the massive chips and other unimportant things, I know
you're upset. Fire away the floor's yours.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Well, upset might not be the right word, but I'm
more concerned because if this had been like I was
explaining to my wife, I go, look, if this was
after the mid terms, we had a successful year and
a half, Democrats won, and then Trump needs to bomb
some things whatever, I would view that as a different
(18:02):
situation because we knew with a lot of the new
people on the Trump train in twenty twenty four, we
know that a lot of these people wanted Iran to
be bombed. We just knew it. That's politics. I don't
try to play the holier than thou act. You know,
I'm so precious and pure and holy. But we need
to get things from these people, and we're not getting
anything from these people who want escalations with Iran.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's where I look at it is as usual. The
base is getting sold out. And then I worry, of course, too,
about how it looks. So I was talking to a
lot of people who are really confused because they say, well,
you claim that Iran's not even that powerful of a nation,
you're not worried about World War Iiie, But then you're
against the air strike, And I go, I'm not against
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the air strike, I'm against everything that led up to it,
and how it looks, especially to the younger male voters
who were politically disengaged until this election. I don't think
it looks strong. I think it looks like an Iran
deal is going to happen. Trump is going to do
a deal. And then Israel said, well, we need to
have this deal not happen, so we're gonna start bombing things.
(19:08):
And then to your point about how everybody lies, this
whole thing started. Remember, Israel has a right to bomb
yourn And I said, sure, of course, they're a sovereign nation.
And then we were told that they have it on
their own. Okay, cool. And then we were told, no,
the US has to drop just a couple of bombs
because if they don't, we're letting down our ally. And
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they go, wait a minute, you were just telling me
that they had it on their own. So now when
they tell me, oh, no boots on the ground, no
regime change, I'm thinking, do you expect me to forget
what you were just saying a few days ago or
a week ago?
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So why would I believe anything that I'm hearing right now?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I guess that's a huge concern of mine as well, Mike,
is we're constantly being just led with just these little
crumbs down a path, and we're always told that that's
as far down the path as we're going to go.
And you'll have to forgive me. But that seems similar
to every other war if we've ever gotten into, at
least in my lifetime, and beyond that, I mean World
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War One. No, no, no, We're just gonna provide some weapons. No, no, no,
we're just gonna Oh, what's that we got to set
in the Marines? Sounds good? It always seems to go
this way, and when you bring this up to people,
you get a lot of pushback. If you're against bombing
the Iranians, no, screw that government. I hate those Dagon people.
They've killed a whole who knows how many of our
troops in the Middle East. I'm not concerned about Iranian weapons.
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I'm concerned about Americans having to facilitate a different government
in another country. We don't fully understand, right.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Because what's happening is we're being set up. So the
way it works is that if Iran does kill Americans,
we have to retaliate. We have to, right, But that's
why you want to avoid the situation where you don't
have to make these moves. But the hand is being
forced in a lot of ways. So that's what people
don't understand. They go, well, who's calling for boots on
the ground. I don't know. Man Mark Levin is talking
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about how we need to give Ukraine nuclear weapons. I'm
so tired of being gas lit, and I think I
think everybody is, And maybe that's why I seem a
little more wound up about this. When I'm against the
Iranian regime, I think the Mulahs aren't going to escalate
too much because then they're worried about the people uprising
against them. China's not going to join them. We're not
on the vert. Like you had a great post where
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you said, people not everything as world War three, right,
I thought this is just that perfectly summarizes what I'm thinking.
You're not seeing me post. Oh we're about to be
in World War three? And no, no, I don't. I don't.
I'm not saying any of this right. What I'm saying
is that the table is being set for escalation, real
or accidental, and we're getting to the point where if
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Americans were attacked, even accidentally, or if there was some
kind of event that could be blamed on the Iranians,
then we are sucked into something else, and we are
being lied to. We are being told, oh, it's only
one thing, how can you oppose that? Oh, oh wait,
we only need a couple of mombs, And then we
find out no, it was cruise missiles from submarines and
multiple bombs, way more bombs than we were told. And
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then of course there is also the aspect off. If
the bombing was as successful as Trump said, then I
think that maybe that's a net good. But if it wasn't,
then we've shown to China this is kind of the
best bunker busters we have. So we've displayed our military
might to China. Flight patterns, all this intelligence has been
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gathered by China, who people tell us we have to
worry about invading Iran. So then I would say, well,
why are we giving them all of our flight patterns
and other mission talks?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Why are we giving them all this information? And then
of course people are just saying, you obviously like Iran,
and you obviously like Amas. But you know what I've
noticed in Jesse doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It is a completely different shift from two thousand and three,
or even from Trump's first term. If you win against
Trump and the first term, I mean you, you know,
you were against the lockdowns and everything. You know, from
day one, people were really nasty to you and it
became very acrimonious. And this time there's just nobody's trust
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of the plan. That that's the information environment that I
think a lot of people haven't adapted to us. I
thought yesterday, Yeah, I'm gonna get, you know, chewed out
as usual by people, and other than a few Boomers,
people were saying, yeah, we don't trust a plan, we
expect to get results. So that is a major development.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Mike, I guess I'm going to ask a more general
question before we get domestic, but I really genuinely mean this.
You're right, there's the trust, isn't there? Because the trust
has been violated so many times, it's not hard to
be distrustful. Does that make us better or worse off
as a country? I'm glad the people are aware that
they're lied to. I'm glad people are aware that even
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the saintly Pentagon is not a trustworthy place at all.
I'm glad they're aware of that. But isn't that kind
of an ugly place to be too as a country
that you really can't trust any of these people? Would
you trust the FBI? You trust the ciam trust any
of these people.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I went back and forth with this on COVID, and
I've always said, and I think I said on your
show a couple of years ago, and maybe this is
panning out as agreeable now. As I said, COVID was,
in a way one of the best things that happened
to the country, because that was the real vaccine to
the disinformation and the propaganda. And if you go back
and look at the Gulf of Tonkin incident leading to
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the Vietnam War, you go back to the Lusnia event
and you find out, no, actually we were smuggling weapons
and we were trying to get in on it. You
go back to Pearl Harbor was their advanced notice, and
you look, the American people have almost always opposed intervening
in these great global wars, right, almost always, and then
there's an event that happens that you often find out
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was a false flag event. So in my opinion, it's
better that people don't trust it because because when you
look at the major historical shifts in our country, it
was always based on a lie. It wasn't based on
the truth. So for me, I want to live in
a truth environment. I want to live in an environment
where people say, look, a lot of people who really
like Israel back Trump. They wrote big checks when he
needed it. They're big donors. They want to get things,
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but they're going to give you things. And this is
how horse trading works. Cool. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that.
I'm not some again. Moralists, right, they want to take
over the West Bank. What's it to me? What's it
to me if Israel's taken over place? I don't care.
The Hamas people hate me anyway. They're aligned with the Marxists.
Look at this mayor in New York, right, they're not
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my allies. But the lying is what people are sick of,
the moralizing, the scolding, the you must love Iran if
you're saying the kinds of things I'm saying where I'm like, no, moron.
We hate Iran, we hate the regime, we hate to
have having it being in Islamic Califate. We despise all
of it. But don't lie to me. Just say, look,
(26:00):
here's the deal. We helped Trump. He needed it, he
was down, he was really down. We won this more.
We're gonna give you Maha stuff. We're gonna give you
RFK Junior. We're gonna keep thatage into going. We're gonna
give you the Epstein files. And then I would say,
cool man. But like a lot of people, we have
this kind of a meme going around, like fatigue, and
(26:20):
you apply whatever is annoying you to fatigue, and people
have bs fatigue, right, we're just tired of the bs.
Tell us what we're getting, tell us what the deal is,
and we'll be willing to play ball, and we'll be
willing to horse trade, because nobody in politics is really
that pure.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All right, Mike, So finally, where are we on all
this domestic stuff? We talked a lot about Israel Iran.
In fact, it's all anyone's talked about for seventy two
hours now, if not longer. But my concern is America,
always has been, always will be. Where are we at
on mass deportations? Where are we at on the Epstein files?
Where are we out on the FBI whistleblowers being brought back?
Do we have updates on these things? Right?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
We know the FBI whistleblowers haven't been brought in. We
know that the Epstein files are taking way longer than
people said. We don't have the j six pipe bomber.
That's still a great that's still a great mystery. We
don't have mass deportations, although the border is shut down
because there are deportations happening, So in that regard there
there's action being taken there, but it's certainly not mass deportations.
(27:22):
We have I don't know. John Corny is talking about
maybe if he's going to stay in the primary or not.
So that's an interesting development where I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical
that he can be. I don't know, he might be.
You're better in Texas. I don't want to go too
far with my skis on that. But but overall, the
domestic agenda was shoved aside. We don't have everything that
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we've been promised, or even anything that we've been promised
right now. And I'm tired of seeing the FI whistleblowers.
If there's a good cause to not reinstate them, then
say it right. There's a bunch of information that I
want to know about, and this is your homestag Jesse.
The Garland shooting. People forget that. As Hie Hottest was
told tear up Texas and went into a Pamela gather event.
(28:06):
It was a draw Mohammed contest and he was sent
in by an FBI agent to commit a mass shooting.
He was only stopped because people in Texas can still
carry and the FBI agent was only found out because
he was pulled over by a local police officer. Senator
Grassley asked for these files under Christopher Ray and Komi
never never got the files. I want the Garland. I
(28:27):
want to know who is the agent who said Tariff
Texas tu JIAHATI. If we're so worried about Iranian attacks
on the US and Islamic terrorism happening in the West,
why don't we have the Tariff Texas files? They can
just release it. But no, everything is apparently so hard,
everything is so difficult to do. It's so onerous. I mean, why,
(28:49):
I can tell you're right there. Grassley asked for the files,
give them, give them?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Why? Indeed, that probably is the ultimate interesting question. Mike,
thank you, Thank you, my brother. As always, I appreciate you.
Democrats are out of money and lost and it's hilarious
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We'll be back. Okay, Let's focus on Democrats for a moment,
because as divided as Republicans must be might be right now,
(30:22):
I'm not sure how divided, but Democrats are a complete disaster.
They can't change. They don't appear to be able to
change the disastrous trajectory there on Joe Biden. Joe Biden
decided to go attempt to give a speech on Juneteenth.
And just keep in mind as you watch this, Democrats
(30:43):
have to win back Middle America. That's what they have
to focus on. You can't win the presidency with California.
You need Pennsylvania, heeding Michigan, you need Wisconsin. Anyway, here
are their efforts right now, I would have.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Out. It's imagine what would happened. I've been through all
I used to.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, I'm sorry, it's just something really funny about about
Joe Biden. It's just he's just the most overtly racist
Democrat in the world speaking in front of a black church. Hey,
I'm a big Africa fan, you guys, And that brings
(31:42):
us to this lovely little tidbit. Democrats are out of money,
as in the we need to borrow money thing. It's
not just that they're unpopular with the average American. Large
Democrat financiers are not writing large checks anymore. I don't
know what the future holds for the Republican Party. Where
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it's going to go, I don't know, but I know
right now the future could not possibly look more bleak
for Democrats. We are in such a wild, interesting time
as a country. I am enjoying it immensely, and take
a moment to enjoy Democrats suffering, because remember what they
did to this country for four years, on purpose, on purpose,
(32:27):
for four years, they tried to put this country to
the torch, and they wounded us so so badly with
their insane, disgusting communism that they are now flailing and
lost is music to my ears. All right, all right,
let's talk to John Phillips actually about that. Why are
Democrats lost? Gavin Newsom? Did he rise in the Democrat
(32:52):
Party with all this anti ice nonsense. We'll talk to
John next.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
Kamala Harris light years ahead of Donald Trump, as relates
to qualifications, as relates to her overall resume, and as
relates to the fact that she was a lot younger.
Everybody said that they wanted to get rid of Joe
Biden because he was too old. Then you had a younger, qualified,
non felon candidate, and somehow the people still chose the
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old white man.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, I can't imagine why these people are broke? Joining
me now, the host of the Wonderful John Phillips Show,
My buddy John Phillips. Okay, John, Democrats as weird and
crazy as Republicans can be at times, Democrats appear to
be completely lost, dead, broke, and unbelievably unpopular.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Why they claim that we're the election deniers because Donald
Trump talked about the irregularities in the twenty twenty election.
But when you look at what they're doing, and you're
looking at what they're saying, they don't seem to realize
they just lost the last election. They think they won,
(34:09):
and they're acting like they won, and they're behaving like
they won, and they can't understand why the rest of
the world doesn't understand that they won. And they're just
moving right along ahead with all these unpopular positions and
unpopular candidates that they ran with in twenty twenty four
and lost with like nothing ever happened. You go back
(34:32):
and you look at all these anti Biden books that
are out right now, or the books that are explaining
about his sinility and dementia and all of those things,
and the conclusion that they come to as to why
Kamala Harris lost the election is that she never had
a reason for running. She was running because Joe needed
someone to stand in for him. She was running because
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the Democrats didn't have time for an open primary. But
she could never answer the question about the why. You
look at what they're doing right now, and they still
don't have a why. They know they hate everything that
Donald Trump does, but beyond that, they have nothing.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay, So I guess I'm having a hard time understanding
that mentality because everything you just said is right but
I mean, John, if a fly comes in here right now,
God forbid, and lands on my face and I smack
at it a couple times, the fly will either move
on or try to land on another part of my body. Now,
this is a fly, but it has the basic instincts
(35:32):
to know that's an unsafe thing. I should do something different,
But the entire Democrat Party doesn't seem to know that.
I mean, like the tranny stuff, at least in women's
sports and things like that. Every single poll shows it's
the most unpopular thing in the world. We had one
national Democrat say a word a little bit against it.
Immediately he got whipped and put back in the corner,
(35:53):
and no one said another word. Since are they so
captured they can't change they are?
Speaker 8 (36:01):
And it happens on issue after issue. I actually read
Nancy Pelosi's book about power that just came out. I
was the one, and in that book, the largest chapter
is about China, and she fancies herself as being the
foremost expert on China in the United States Congress. And
(36:24):
this has been an issue that she's been quite consistent
on throughout her political career.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
She's tough on the.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
CCP it's not only a national and international issue for her,
but there's a large Chinese population in her district here
in California, So it's something that she's paid attention to
for a long time. And she wanted to make sure
that China was kicked out of the World Trade Organization,
that we didn't give them Most Favored Nation status and
let's use trade rules to go after them and get
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them to stop their bad behavior domestically and manipulating currency internationally.
And all of the beefs that Donald Trump has with China,
basically Nancy Pelosi shares them and claims that it's her
number one issue. Well, when Donald Trump gets in, he
gives her everything that she's been asking.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
For and more.
Speaker 8 (37:13):
And what does she do. She comes out against him
and she trashes them all over social media because it's
Donald Trump, and hatred of Donald Trump is due north
for them. And as long as you're hating on Donald Trump,
nothing else matters. Well, if that's what you believe in,
and that's your worldview, you believe in nothing. And if
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you believe in nothing, then why should anyone trust.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You with power?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
John? Is it that Democrats have left behind Middle America?
Normy American or is it their base Because you bring
that up in you're one hundred percent right. But every
poll amongst Democrats, when Democrats are pulled now, they all
show that they want Democrats to fight Trump harder than
they're currently fight to fight Donald Trump even harder. So
the people who keep Democrats in office are demanding opposition
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to Trump at all times, no matter what position he takes.
If he believes in saving a sick puppy that's on
the highway, Democrats feel they have to electorally come out
and oppose him. So it's the insane Democrat base that's
screwing the Democrat Party. Could I justify that?
Speaker 8 (38:22):
Well, Political coalitions are always evolving, and basically, for a
very long time, they relied on Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal
coalition to get them through these national elections. And when
Donald Trump came along, Donald Trump had appeal to blue
collar workers in ways that other Republicans, let's say Mitt
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Romney or John McCain or others, did not have, so
he peeled off a portion of their coalition. We saw
that happen in particular this last time with a lot
of young men, particularly Asian men, Latino men, black men,
certainly blue collar whites already started moving Trump's column long before,
and the Democrats replaced them by getting the Lincoln Project types.
(39:07):
They got a lot of these college educated whites that
used to vote Republican because I guess they felt they
had to out of class or education or whatever, but
who were fundamentally not down with the pause. And we
did a swap, and that player to be named later
that we had to give up for the blue collar
voters was the college educated whites, the Lincoln Project guys. Well,
(39:32):
those people give the worst advice on planet Earth. If
those people tell you, you know, to bet on the Lakers,
you can rest assure that they're going to lose by
double digits. And that's now part of their crowd. And
these people are basically inoculated from a lot of their
bad policies because they live behind fences. They have jobs
(39:56):
that have not been downsized so far. Maybe with AI
they will. But they have people that can put up
with poor government because they have the money to find
alternate means. And then they have the people at the
very bottom who rely on the government and belong with
these SEIU and all of these groups that are in
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bed with the Democrats and they lost everyone else. Well,
they have people who are very dogmatic in their belief
systems and the Lincoln Project people. They're not going to
change because something's not working or something's unpopular. That's just
not fundamentally who they are. And the people at the
bottom of their coalition, well, they're just doing what the
(40:38):
union bosses tell them to do, and that's just not
enough for a majority. The reason that Donald Trump was
able to win the election was he peeled off more
from their side than they peeled off from our side. Well, okay,
elections are a game of math. If you're going to
get back into the majority, you need to find some
other group to peel off. And they haven't done that,
(41:00):
and based on what they're doing, they're not going to
do that.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
John Finally, Gavin Newsom very clearly saw the anti ice
protests as an opportunity to launch himself into being the
Democrat nominee in twenty twenty eight. I'm not a Democrat
to me. He looked like a clown and it all
looked very obvious. But there are a bunch of clowns
who vote for Democrats. Did it work? It did?
Speaker 8 (41:28):
There was just a poll that came out that showed
him in second place in a Democratic primary for president,
right behind Kamala Harris. And at this point she's pulling
at number one. Not because they're in love with her.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
They're not.
Speaker 8 (41:41):
They chose Grampy Joe over her the last time there
was an open primary. It's just they spent a billion
dollars promoting her, and she has the highest name id
by far, so Gavin Newsome and if you look at
it in a different way, might be pulling the strongest
in the Democratic primary right now. And basically what he
(42:01):
did and what Karen Bass did is they were able
to nationalize these local subjects. They nationalized the fires, they
blamed Donald Trump. They nationalize the ice raids. They're saying, well,
it's Donald Trump that is separating families, and I'm going
to be the one that volunteers to get arrested to
stop it and making sure that people vote a straight
(42:27):
party line. And you nationalize these elections and you make
everything us versus Donald Trump is very good for blue
state Democrats who are unpopular in deeply blue states or
in Democratic primaries. That formula works right now. However, there
are consequences to that. If you get everyone to stop
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splitting their ticket, and you get everyone to look at
every race on the ballot as a national race, well
then fine, what are you supposed to do if you're
a Democrat running for the Senate in on red state?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
What do you do?
Speaker 8 (43:00):
If you're one of those guys in Georgia? What do
you do if you're one of those people in Arizona
or Nevada or any of the other states that Donald
Trump carry that have to win and have to get
people who voted for Donald Trump to turn over and
vote for them in an off cycle election or a
down ballot race. If Gavin Newsom is successful, and I
(43:23):
believe he's a sociopath, so let's start there. But if
he's successful at getting people to stop splitting their ticket
and just vote the straight party line, because that benefits him.
I think it will benefit his standing in California, and
it'll benefit his standing in a Democratic primary, But he
in the process will slit the throats of all of
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those red state Democrats hoping to win reelection to the
US Senate.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
You'd love to see it, Thank you, John, Come back soon,
brother light in the mood. Next all right, it is
time to lighten the mood, and to lighten the mood today,
(44:10):
we are going to wish a very happy seventy seventh
birthday to one of the greatest living Americans, one Clarence Thomas.
Here he was, he.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Has a chance.
Speaker 8 (44:20):
I'm just a civil servant.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I know, Lance Lance, Lance eater, her Lance eater.
Speaker 10 (44:25):
He retired.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
He got to be looking for some work a little bit. No,
but you're a funny guy. What do you what do
you do?
Speaker 4 (44:31):
You just sort of sat around photo bombed before.
Speaker 10 (44:33):
No, No, I'm calling with TMZ. No, I'm just giving
your heart. Okay, man, we love your work. D No,
my sister did great school.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Was you in law school?
Speaker 8 (44:43):
Then?
Speaker 10 (44:44):
No, she did. She's a she's actually she did journalism also,
but she just yeah, so you go around bothering. No, no,
actually we find interesting people. What did you have to
what did you have to eat?
Speaker 6 (44:58):
No?
Speaker 10 (44:59):
No, no, come on, I.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Love him. Suitable m
Is it World War three? We'll talk about the Israel
Iran thing tonight. Mike Cernovich joins us. He has some
thoughts about bad democrats losing their minds, all that and
more coming up. But I'm right, right, let's talk about
(00:25):
the Midnight Hammer. No, I am not just going to
discuss Lindsey Graham and any of those things right now.
We're talking about America's bomb dropping on Iran. It happened
over the weekend. I'm not naive. I know you've already
seen the footage of it. I know you've already seen
opinions about the whole thing. If you were watching I'm
(00:46):
right last week, you weren't shocked because we said it
was coming. Here's how he clearly stands now, when you
call for unconditional surrender, when you take that stance, whatever
you believe about it, right or wrong, when you take
that stance, then you have guaranteed it's about to get hot.
(01:11):
It was coming. Trump had already made his decision when
he called for that. When you call for unconditional surrender,
you're going When you start mobilizing units. This isn't just modern.
In ancient history, you start mobilizing units, you raise an
army and march them one hundred miles to an enemy city.
You're going to war. You're going to do something. When
you start sailing carrier groups over to the Middle East,
(01:35):
you're going to bomb somebody. Someone's getting something dropped on them.
And so it happened. Now after it, Trump addressed the nation,
said some interesting things. Here, here's what you said.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
A short time ago, the US military carried out massive
precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the
Iranian regime. Our objective was the destruction of irans nuclear
inducement capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed
by the world's number one state sponsor of terror. Tonight,
(02:11):
I can report to the world that the strikes were
a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear and Richmond facilities
have been completely and totally obliterated. Around the bully of
the Middle East must now make peace. If they do not,
future attacks would be far greater and a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, Now, let's have a discussion about what we've seen,
what we've done so far. And here's the thing. It's
easy and very common to celebrate things as if things
happen in a vacuum. You wake up. Actually didn't wake
up because we were awake. It was nighttime when it
(02:55):
happened here. I remember it was it Friday, Saturday night.
I was on my phone and I started getting these notifications.
Oh my gosh, you wake up and find out that
we're bombing the living crap out of Iran's nuclear facilities.
As an American, hard not to cheer for that. They
are the world's largest state sponsor of terror in Iraq.
(03:17):
We lost a lot of people because of Iran. Iran,
after our invasion, trained and equipped a lot of people.
And those IEDs, remember those days, those IEDs that were
always going off, blowing people up, blowing their heads off,
blowing off limbs. We have how many iraq Bets are
watching this show right now, missing an arm, missing their
legs because of Iran. We have a long list of
(03:41):
grievances with Iran, including the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
And therefore we wake up and we see a bunch
of explosions. It's Iran. It's hard not to stand up
in cheer when a bad guy gets what's coming to him.
And if you did, you were not alone. I did too.
In that moment. It feels good here, get them. They
(04:04):
deserve it. Okay, nothing wrong with that at all. But
life doesn't happen in a vacuum. Foreign policy doesn't happen
in a vacuum. Things are complicated. So let's talk about
a few things here. First, when it comes to war
politics in general, but when it comes to war, there
(04:26):
is an ancient proverb that is undeniably true. In war,
the first casualty is the truth. Let me say that again.
In war, the first casualty is the truth. So I
want you to understand something, and I say this as
the most patriotic, ugly American on the planet. Everybody lies.
(04:49):
They've been lying, and they will continue to lie. Some
of that is a necessity, but it's just how it
goes in war. The good guys lie, the bad guys lie.
Different people lie for different reasons. It's going to be
very difficult as we move forward, if all this moves forward,
to suss out what is true and what is not.
(05:11):
And let me tell you this. The people running to
you telling you they know absolutely that this is one
hundred percent true, and anyone else is a liar. Those
people are liars or they're naive. What is true We
don't know. It's going to be very difficult to sift
through that, and always has been. What is paid propaganda?
(05:33):
What is somebody who just got a hold of an
old video acted like it was a modern video. What
about the uranium in Richmond? What's the truth there? We
were told Iran was about to have a nuke, They
were right on the they're right there, and now we're told, well,
I mean, maybe the uranium wasn't there. Maybe what's true?
(05:54):
I don't know, because guess what we are lying? Israel
is lying, Iran is lying. Everybody, the media is lying,
the military's lying. All of everyone minds in war. So
just know that everything, even when we celebrate some bombs
blowing up some Iran and nuclear facilities, everything should be
taken with a sober mind, a sober mind, take things in.
(06:17):
That's one. Two. Do you ever do any construction or
know anyone who did, ever been involved in a construction
project of any kind? You know, I come from a
construction family. That's what we did for a living. That's
what the Kellys do. It's what my dad did, it's
what his dad did, It's what I did for construction people.
And so let me tell you this. It's complicated and
(06:41):
you're going to run into problems. Now why would I
bring that up. Well, let's say you live in a house.
This house is rotted and it's always giving you problems,
costing you money. You got termites, the electrical fires, the
roof is leaking. The house is an absolute nightmare. And
you make the decision, you know what, we are going
(07:04):
to tear this house down and we are going to rebuild.
We will rebuild something better. Okay, fine, understandable. The day
you tear the house down, that's a celebration, right, Hey,
look at that headache, that mountain or that mountain of problems,
that cash money.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Pit, it's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It's a great day. It's a good day. Celebrate. That's
fine to feel good. But you have not rebuilt the
new house yet. And anybody who's ever been involved in
any kind of construction knows there are going to be problems.
There are gonna be material delays. You're gonna have contractors
who don't show up, go out of business, show up
and do shoddy work. The permitting process is a nightmare.
(07:47):
Rebuilding the new one is necessary, and there are going
to be problems. So when you tear down the old one.
Don't celebrate as if the new one is built and
the deed is done. And I say this because there's
this term being floated around a lot now, and we're
(08:08):
getting a lot of mixed messaging. As I said, everybody
lies the term being regime change.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
This mission was not and has not been about regime change.
The President authorized a precision operation to neutralize the threats
to our national interests posed by the Iranian nuclear program.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, so we're not doing regime change, or are we?
Because after that, Donald Trump went to social media and
said this, this is a direct quote. It's not politically
correct to use the term regime change, but if the
current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again,
why wouldn't there be a regime change? So it's hard
(08:53):
to take that as anything other than advocating for regime change.
But then we have Carolinelevitt come out today and try
to do some cleanup on it.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
The President believes the Iranian people can control their own destiny,
and what he said last night makes complete sense. If
the Iranian regime refuses to come to a peaceful diplomatic solution,
which the President is still interested and engaging and by
the way, why shouldn't the Iranian people take away the
power of this incredibly violent regime that has been suppressing
(09:29):
them for decades? And so our posture has not changed,
Our military posture has not changed. These were decisive, precision
strikes that were successful on Saturday evening. But the President
is just simply raising a good question that many people
around the world are asking.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, now let's discuss the history of that. Then what's
going on here? Because it's important to have perspective. Again,
things don't happen in a vacuum. History has led us
to where we are now. World War One. Don't worry,
I'm not going to go into a long history for
you here. But World War One, world War One, you know,
it kicks off Germany, France, Britain. Eventually later on we
(10:10):
get in the war. But after World War One, we
decided Germany was the bad guy, which is very debatable
when it comes to World War One, but either way,
the world decided they're the bad guy. And after we
had killed a bunch of Germans and Germans had killed
a bunch of other people, we decided to simply punish Germany.
(10:30):
No help, no nothing, horrible reparations, taking valuable chunks of
their territory from them. Essentially no sugar cubes, just the
whip you did wrong. And after that, well, that led
directly to the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis.
It led directly to it a down and out Germany.
(10:52):
People looking around, massive inflation, Germany crushed, and you have
this Demigg rising who gave a great speech telling them
you're the best. You're in Germany, let's rise again. And
then World War two came. World War II was a
direct result of how we handled the end of World
War One, and the lesson the world took from that.
(11:16):
An understandable lesson was when you fight a war against somebody,
you can't just beat the crap out of them and
walk away. You have to help them afterwards, help them rebuild.
After World War II, we practically moved into Japan and
rebuilt their entire country after we'd bombed it. The Smithereens
rebuilt their entire government and now they're close allies today.
(11:39):
And the lessons we took from that we carried into
places like Iraq and Afghanistan where we didn't like Saddam Hussein,
we didn't like the Taliban in Afghanistan, and so yes,
we can go in, and we did go in and
smash their armies and bomb them the smithereens. But then,
of course we have to handle the regime change, right.
(12:01):
We can't just go kill Saddam and let them go.
We have to step in here and help these people alone.
But we didn't do it well. Twenty years later, all
that blood, all that treasure, all those lives, all those limbs,
it's hard to look at it and call it anything
(12:23):
but a colossal failure. And I say that miserable hot boxes.
It's hard to say it was anything but a colossal failure.
Now that brings us to Iran. Donald Trump is very
good at foreign policy. It's very sharp, very very sharp.
But we are entering dangerous territory here. And I'm not
(12:44):
calling it dangerous territory because I'm afraid of the Iranian response.
I know about those stupid missiles today that got shot
down right away, Ron launched some missiles at us who
shot him down. I'm not talking about that being the
real danger. The real danger is what if we bring
down their regime? And I hate their regime, it's an
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evil regime. What if we bring it down, what rises?
You get answers that are unbelievably vague and naive. You
get answers what the Iranian people will decide? Are you
watching a movie? You think this is a game. Do
you know what happens when that happens? You know what happens? Well,
I let the people decide. What happens is if you're
(13:27):
gonna wash your hands of it, the guy with the
most guns, he ends up running the country. Are you
sure that man is better than the one they currently have?
I'm not. You're not. Nobody is. Don't let anybody lie
to you. Nobody is. Okay, So you don't want to
wash your hands up? Are you gonna get involved again?
Are we gonna go the John Bolton round?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
How do you feel about regime change as a US goal?
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Well, I think it should be america declared policy. The
regime itself is the problem here, has been all along,
both through its nuclear program, it's ballistic missile program, its
support for terrorist groups in the Middle East around the world.
This regime has been in power forty six years. It
will not change its behavior. So the only foundation for
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long term peace and security in the Middle East is
to overthrow the Iotolis.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
John Bolton was alone. Don't think that was just some
loan wacko on CNN. Republican senators, Republican politicians that have
been quite frank about it. We most certainly need to
have regime change in Iran. This is the same regime
that's threatened America and Americans time for regime change.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
And I believe that this president should be given a
fair amount of leeway to a fact that.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
It's time to close the chapter on the Iran and
Iotolin his henchmen.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Let's close that chapter soon and start a new chapter
in the Mid East, one of tolerance, open peace.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We are entering a very dangerous game here, and again
I want to stress I know Iran has some terrorist abilities.
They don't have really legitimate military capabilities, some missiles that
aren't going to be accurate. I'm not My concerns are
not irong Iran's military capabilities. My concerns are the very
dangerous game we're walking into. And as I mentioned already,
(15:28):
everybody is lying and everybody will continue to lie, And
to say I'm apprehensive would be putting it mild. Just watch, pray,
sift through the information. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right. Mike Cernovich is very uncomfortable. He's
very upset with everything going on. Let's talk to Mike
(15:50):
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Speaker 7 (16:48):
This wasn't a regime change move. This was designed to
degrade and or destroy three nuclear sites related to their
nuclear weaponization ambitions. I don't like the regime, but we're
not into the regime change business. We're into the safety
and security of the United States business.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I've got a bit of whiplash. I know you do too.
There's not going to be regime change. We're not in
the regime change. We want the regime to change. We
got to have the regime to change. No, but we're
not going to change the regime. We might change the regime.
What are we doing? Remember what I just told you
in the open that everybody lies, including the good guys
joining me now, Mike Cernovich, who is all kinds of
spicy about this whole thing. Obviously, you know Mikey joins
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us often, and I owe him not just for making
great documentaries, but for hooking me up with some massive chips,
which now I'm addicted to. Okay, Mike, before we get
to the massive chips and other unimportant things, I know
you're upset. Fire away the floor's yours.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Well, upset might not be the right word, but I'm
more concerned because if this had been like I was
explaining to my wife, I go, look, if this was
after the mid terms, we had a successful year and
a half, Democrats won, and then Trump needs to bomb
some things whatever, I would view that as a different
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situation because we knew with a lot of the new
people on the Trump train in twenty twenty four, we
know that a lot of these people wanted Iran to
be bombed. We just knew it. That's politics. I don't
try to play the holier than thou act. You know,
I'm so precious and pure and holy. But we need
to get things from these people, and we're not getting
anything from these people who want escalations with Iran.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's where I look at it is as usual. The
base is getting sold out. And then I worry, of course, too,
about how it looks. So I was talking to a
lot of people who are really confused because they say, well,
you claim that Iran's not even that powerful of a nation,
you're not worried about World War Iiie, But then you're
against the air strike, And I go, I'm not against
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the air strike, I'm against everything that led up to it,
and how it looks, especially to the younger male voters
who were politically disengaged until this election. I don't think
it looks strong. I think it looks like an Iran
deal is going to happen. Trump is going to do
a deal. And then Israel said, well, we need to
have this deal not happen, so we're gonna start bombing things.
(19:08):
And then to your point about how everybody lies, this
whole thing started. Remember, Israel has a right to bomb
yourn And I said, sure, of course, they're a sovereign nation.
And then we were told that they have it on
their own. Okay, cool. And then we were told, no,
the US has to drop just a couple of bombs
because if they don't, we're letting down our ally. And
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they go, wait a minute, you were just telling me
that they had it on their own. So now when
they tell me, oh, no boots on the ground, no
regime change, I'm thinking, do you expect me to forget
what you were just saying a few days ago or
a week ago?
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So why would I believe anything that I'm hearing right now?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I guess that's a huge concern of mine as well, Mike,
is we're constantly being just led with just these little
crumbs down a path, and we're always told that that's
as far down the path as we're going to go.
And you'll have to forgive me. But that seems similar
to every other war if we've ever gotten into, at
least in my lifetime, and beyond that, I mean World
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War One. No, no, no, We're just gonna provide some weapons. No, no, no,
we're just gonna Oh, what's that we got to set
in the Marines? Sounds good? It always seems to go
this way, and when you bring this up to people,
you get a lot of pushback. If you're against bombing
the Iranians, no, screw that government. I hate those Dagon people.
They've killed a whole who knows how many of our
troops in the Middle East. I'm not concerned about Iranian weapons.
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I'm concerned about Americans having to facilitate a different government
in another country. We don't fully understand, right.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Because what's happening is we're being set up. So the
way it works is that if Iran does kill Americans,
we have to retaliate. We have to, right, But that's
why you want to avoid the situation where you don't
have to make these moves. But the hand is being
forced in a lot of ways. So that's what people
don't understand. They go, well, who's calling for boots on
the ground. I don't know. Man Mark Levin is talking
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about how we need to give Ukraine nuclear weapons. I'm
so tired of being gas lit, and I think I
think everybody is, And maybe that's why I seem a
little more wound up about this. When I'm against the
Iranian regime, I think the Mulahs aren't going to escalate
too much because then they're worried about the people uprising
against them. China's not going to join them. We're not
on the vert. Like you had a great post where
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you said, people not everything as world War three, right,
I thought this is just that perfectly summarizes what I'm thinking.
You're not seeing me post. Oh we're about to be
in World War three? And no, no, I don't. I don't.
I'm not saying any of this right. What I'm saying
is that the table is being set for escalation, real
or accidental, and we're getting to the point where if
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Americans were attacked, even accidentally, or if there was some
kind of event that could be blamed on the Iranians,
then we are sucked into something else, and we are
being lied to. We are being told, oh, it's only
one thing, how can you oppose that? Oh, oh wait,
we only need a couple of mombs, And then we
find out no, it was cruise missiles from submarines and
multiple bombs, way more bombs than we were told. And
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then of course there is also the aspect off. If
the bombing was as successful as Trump said, then I
think that maybe that's a net good. But if it wasn't,
then we've shown to China this is kind of the
best bunker busters we have. So we've displayed our military
might to China. Flight patterns, all this intelligence has been
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gathered by China, who people tell us we have to
worry about invading Iran. So then I would say, well,
why are we giving them all of our flight patterns
and other mission talks?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Why are we giving them all this information? And then
of course people are just saying, you obviously like Iran,
and you obviously like Amas. But you know what I've
noticed in Jesse doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It is a completely different shift from two thousand and three,
or even from Trump's first term. If you win against
Trump and the first term, I mean you, you know,
you were against the lockdowns and everything. You know, from
day one, people were really nasty to you and it
became very acrimonious. And this time there's just nobody's trust
(23:12):
of the plan. That that's the information environment that I
think a lot of people haven't adapted to us. I
thought yesterday, Yeah, I'm gonna get, you know, chewed out
as usual by people, and other than a few Boomers,
people were saying, yeah, we don't trust a plan, we
expect to get results. So that is a major development.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Mike, I guess I'm going to ask a more general
question before we get domestic, but I really genuinely mean this.
You're right, there's the trust, isn't there? Because the trust
has been violated so many times, it's not hard to
be distrustful. Does that make us better or worse off
as a country? I'm glad the people are aware that
they're lied to. I'm glad people are aware that even
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the saintly Pentagon is not a trustworthy place at all.
I'm glad they're aware of that. But isn't that kind
of an ugly place to be too as a country
that you really can't trust any of these people? Would
you trust the FBI? You trust the ciam trust any
of these people.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I went back and forth with this on COVID, and
I've always said, and I think I said on your
show a couple of years ago, and maybe this is
panning out as agreeable now. As I said, COVID was,
in a way one of the best things that happened
to the country, because that was the real vaccine to
the disinformation and the propaganda. And if you go back
and look at the Gulf of Tonkin incident leading to
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the Vietnam War, you go back to the Lusnia event
and you find out, no, actually we were smuggling weapons
and we were trying to get in on it. You
go back to Pearl Harbor was their advanced notice, and
you look, the American people have almost always opposed intervening
in these great global wars, right, almost always, and then
there's an event that happens that you often find out
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was a false flag event. So in my opinion, it's
better that people don't trust it because because when you
look at the major historical shifts in our country, it
was always based on a lie. It wasn't based on
the truth. So for me, I want to live in
a truth environment. I want to live in an environment
where people say, look, a lot of people who really
like Israel back Trump. They wrote big checks when he
needed it. They're big donors. They want to get things,
(25:17):
but they're going to give you things. And this is
how horse trading works. Cool. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that.
I'm not some again. Moralists, right, they want to take
over the West Bank. What's it to me? What's it
to me if Israel's taken over place? I don't care.
The Hamas people hate me anyway. They're aligned with the Marxists.
Look at this mayor in New York, right, they're not
(25:39):
my allies. But the lying is what people are sick of,
the moralizing, the scolding, the you must love Iran if
you're saying the kinds of things I'm saying where I'm like, no, moron.
We hate Iran, we hate the regime, we hate to
have having it being in Islamic Califate. We despise all
of it. But don't lie to me. Just say, look,
(26:00):
here's the deal. We helped Trump. He needed it, he
was down, he was really down. We won this more.
We're gonna give you Maha stuff. We're gonna give you
RFK Junior. We're gonna keep thatage into going. We're gonna
give you the Epstein files. And then I would say,
cool man. But like a lot of people, we have
this kind of a meme going around, like fatigue, and
(26:20):
you apply whatever is annoying you to fatigue, and people
have bs fatigue, right, we're just tired of the bs.
Tell us what we're getting, tell us what the deal is,
and we'll be willing to play ball, and we'll be
willing to horse trade, because nobody in politics is really
that pure.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All right, Mike, So finally, where are we on all
this domestic stuff? We talked a lot about Israel Iran.
In fact, it's all anyone's talked about for seventy two
hours now, if not longer. But my concern is America,
always has been, always will be. Where are we at
on mass deportations? Where are we at on the Epstein files?
Where are we out on the FBI whistleblowers being brought back?
Do we have updates on these things? Right?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
We know the FBI whistleblowers haven't been brought in. We
know that the Epstein files are taking way longer than
people said. We don't have the j six pipe bomber.
That's still a great that's still a great mystery. We
don't have mass deportations, although the border is shut down
because there are deportations happening, So in that regard there
there's action being taken there, but it's certainly not mass deportations.
(27:22):
We have I don't know. John Corny is talking about
maybe if he's going to stay in the primary or not.
So that's an interesting development where I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical
that he can be. I don't know, he might be.
You're better in Texas. I don't want to go too
far with my skis on that. But but overall, the
domestic agenda was shoved aside. We don't have everything that
(27:45):
we've been promised, or even anything that we've been promised
right now. And I'm tired of seeing the FI whistleblowers.
If there's a good cause to not reinstate them, then
say it right. There's a bunch of information that I
want to know about, and this is your homestag Jesse.
The Garland shooting. People forget that. As Hie Hottest was
told tear up Texas and went into a Pamela gather event.
(28:06):
It was a draw Mohammed contest and he was sent
in by an FBI agent to commit a mass shooting.
He was only stopped because people in Texas can still
carry and the FBI agent was only found out because
he was pulled over by a local police officer. Senator
Grassley asked for these files under Christopher Ray and Komi
never never got the files. I want the Garland. I
(28:27):
want to know who is the agent who said Tariff
Texas tu JIAHATI. If we're so worried about Iranian attacks
on the US and Islamic terrorism happening in the West,
why don't we have the Tariff Texas files? They can
just release it. But no, everything is apparently so hard,
everything is so difficult to do. It's so onerous. I mean, why,
(28:49):
I can tell you're right there. Grassley asked for the files,
give them, give them?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Why? Indeed, that probably is the ultimate interesting question. Mike,
thank you, Thank you, my brother. As always, I appreciate you.
Democrats are out of money and lost and it's hilarious
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We'll be back. Okay, Let's focus on Democrats for a moment,
because as divided as Republicans must be might be right now,
(30:22):
I'm not sure how divided, but Democrats are a complete disaster.
They can't change. They don't appear to be able to
change the disastrous trajectory there on Joe Biden. Joe Biden
decided to go attempt to give a speech on Juneteenth.
And just keep in mind as you watch this, Democrats
(30:43):
have to win back Middle America. That's what they have
to focus on. You can't win the presidency with California.
You need Pennsylvania, heeding Michigan, you need Wisconsin. Anyway, here
are their efforts right now, I would have.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Out. It's imagine what would happened. I've been through all
I used to.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, I'm sorry, it's just something really funny about about
Joe Biden. It's just he's just the most overtly racist
Democrat in the world speaking in front of a black church. Hey,
I'm a big Africa fan, you guys, And that brings
(31:42):
us to this lovely little tidbit. Democrats are out of money,
as in the we need to borrow money thing. It's
not just that they're unpopular with the average American. Large
Democrat financiers are not writing large checks anymore. I don't
know what the future holds for the Republican Party. Where
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it's going to go, I don't know, but I know
right now the future could not possibly look more bleak
for Democrats. We are in such a wild, interesting time
as a country. I am enjoying it immensely, and take
a moment to enjoy Democrats suffering, because remember what they
did to this country for four years, on purpose, on purpose,
(32:27):
for four years, they tried to put this country to
the torch, and they wounded us so so badly with
their insane, disgusting communism that they are now flailing and
lost is music to my ears. All right, all right,
let's talk to John Phillips actually about that. Why are
Democrats lost? Gavin Newsom? Did he rise in the Democrat
(32:52):
Party with all this anti ice nonsense. We'll talk to
John next.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
Kamala Harris light years ahead of Donald Trump, as relates
to qualifications, as relates to her overall resume, and as
relates to the fact that she was a lot younger.
Everybody said that they wanted to get rid of Joe
Biden because he was too old. Then you had a younger, qualified,
non felon candidate, and somehow the people still chose the
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old white man.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, I can't imagine why these people are broke? Joining
me now, the host of the Wonderful John Phillips Show,
My buddy John Phillips. Okay, John, Democrats as weird and
crazy as Republicans can be at times, Democrats appear to
be completely lost, dead, broke, and unbelievably unpopular.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Why they claim that we're the election deniers because Donald
Trump talked about the irregularities in the twenty twenty election.
But when you look at what they're doing, and you're
looking at what they're saying, they don't seem to realize
they just lost the last election. They think they won,
(34:09):
and they're acting like they won, and they're behaving like
they won, and they can't understand why the rest of
the world doesn't understand that they won. And they're just
moving right along ahead with all these unpopular positions and
unpopular candidates that they ran with in twenty twenty four
and lost with like nothing ever happened. You go back
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and you look at all these anti Biden books that
are out right now, or the books that are explaining
about his sinility and dementia and all of those things,
and the conclusion that they come to as to why
Kamala Harris lost the election is that she never had
a reason for running. She was running because Joe needed
someone to stand in for him. She was running because
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the Democrats didn't have time for an open primary. But
she could never answer the question about the why. You
look at what they're doing right now, and they still
don't have a why. They know they hate everything that
Donald Trump does, but beyond that, they have nothing.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay, So I guess I'm having a hard time understanding
that mentality because everything you just said is right but
I mean, John, if a fly comes in here right now,
God forbid, and lands on my face and I smack
at it a couple times, the fly will either move
on or try to land on another part of my body. Now,
this is a fly, but it has the basic instincts
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to know that's an unsafe thing. I should do something different,
But the entire Democrat Party doesn't seem to know that.
I mean, like the tranny stuff, at least in women's
sports and things like that. Every single poll shows it's
the most unpopular thing in the world. We had one
national Democrat say a word a little bit against it.
Immediately he got whipped and put back in the corner,
(35:53):
and no one said another word. Since are they so
captured they can't change they are?
Speaker 8 (36:01):
And it happens on issue after issue. I actually read
Nancy Pelosi's book about power that just came out. I
was the one, and in that book, the largest chapter
is about China, and she fancies herself as being the
foremost expert on China in the United States Congress. And
(36:24):
this has been an issue that she's been quite consistent
on throughout her political career.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
She's tough on the.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
CCP it's not only a national and international issue for her,
but there's a large Chinese population in her district here
in California, So it's something that she's paid attention to
for a long time. And she wanted to make sure
that China was kicked out of the World Trade Organization,
that we didn't give them Most Favored Nation status and
let's use trade rules to go after them and get
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them to stop their bad behavior domestically and manipulating currency internationally.
And all of the beefs that Donald Trump has with China,
basically Nancy Pelosi shares them and claims that it's her
number one issue. Well, when Donald Trump gets in, he
gives her everything that she's been asking.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
For and more.
Speaker 8 (37:13):
And what does she do. She comes out against him
and she trashes them all over social media because it's
Donald Trump, and hatred of Donald Trump is due north
for them. And as long as you're hating on Donald Trump,
nothing else matters. Well, if that's what you believe in,
and that's your worldview, you believe in nothing. And if
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you believe in nothing, then why should anyone trust.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You with power?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
John? Is it that Democrats have left behind Middle America?
Normy American or is it their base Because you bring
that up in you're one hundred percent right. But every
poll amongst Democrats, when Democrats are pulled now, they all
show that they want Democrats to fight Trump harder than
they're currently fight to fight Donald Trump even harder. So
the people who keep Democrats in office are demanding opposition
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to Trump at all times, no matter what position he takes.
If he believes in saving a sick puppy that's on
the highway, Democrats feel they have to electorally come out
and oppose him. So it's the insane Democrat base that's
screwing the Democrat Party. Could I justify that?
Speaker 8 (38:22):
Well, Political coalitions are always evolving, and basically, for a
very long time, they relied on Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal
coalition to get them through these national elections. And when
Donald Trump came along, Donald Trump had appeal to blue
collar workers in ways that other Republicans, let's say Mitt
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Romney or John McCain or others, did not have, so
he peeled off a portion of their coalition. We saw
that happen in particular this last time with a lot
of young men, particularly Asian men, Latino men, black men,
certainly blue collar whites already started moving Trump's column long before,
and the Democrats replaced them by getting the Lincoln Project types.
(39:07):
They got a lot of these college educated whites that
used to vote Republican because I guess they felt they
had to out of class or education or whatever, but
who were fundamentally not down with the pause. And we
did a swap, and that player to be named later
that we had to give up for the blue collar
voters was the college educated whites, the Lincoln Project guys. Well,
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those people give the worst advice on planet Earth. If
those people tell you, you know, to bet on the Lakers,
you can rest assure that they're going to lose by
double digits. And that's now part of their crowd. And
these people are basically inoculated from a lot of their
bad policies because they live behind fences. They have jobs
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that have not been downsized so far. Maybe with AI
they will. But they have people that can put up
with poor government because they have the money to find
alternate means. And then they have the people at the
very bottom who rely on the government and belong with
these SEIU and all of these groups that are in
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bed with the Democrats and they lost everyone else. Well,
they have people who are very dogmatic in their belief
systems and the Lincoln Project people. They're not going to
change because something's not working or something's unpopular. That's just
not fundamentally who they are. And the people at the
bottom of their coalition, well, they're just doing what the
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union bosses tell them to do, and that's just not
enough for a majority. The reason that Donald Trump was
able to win the election was he peeled off more
from their side than they peeled off from our side. Well, okay,
elections are a game of math. If you're going to
get back into the majority, you need to find some
other group to peel off. And they haven't done that,
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and based on what they're doing, they're not going to
do that.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
John Finally, Gavin Newsom very clearly saw the anti ice
protests as an opportunity to launch himself into being the
Democrat nominee in twenty twenty eight. I'm not a Democrat
to me. He looked like a clown and it all
looked very obvious. But there are a bunch of clowns
who vote for Democrats. Did it work? It did?
Speaker 8 (41:28):
There was just a poll that came out that showed
him in second place in a Democratic primary for president,
right behind Kamala Harris. And at this point she's pulling
at number one. Not because they're in love with her.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
They're not.
Speaker 8 (41:41):
They chose Grampy Joe over her the last time there
was an open primary. It's just they spent a billion
dollars promoting her, and she has the highest name id
by far, so Gavin Newsome and if you look at
it in a different way, might be pulling the strongest
in the Democratic primary right now. And basically what he
(42:01):
did and what Karen Bass did is they were able
to nationalize these local subjects. They nationalized the fires, they
blamed Donald Trump. They nationalize the ice raids. They're saying, well,
it's Donald Trump that is separating families, and I'm going
to be the one that volunteers to get arrested to
stop it and making sure that people vote a straight
(42:27):
party line. And you nationalize these elections and you make
everything us versus Donald Trump is very good for blue
state Democrats who are unpopular in deeply blue states or
in Democratic primaries. That formula works right now. However, there
are consequences to that. If you get everyone to stop
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splitting their ticket, and you get everyone to look at
every race on the ballot as a national race, well
then fine, what are you supposed to do if you're
a Democrat running for the Senate in on red state?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
What do you do?
Speaker 8 (43:00):
If you're one of those guys in Georgia? What do
you do if you're one of those people in Arizona
or Nevada or any of the other states that Donald
Trump carry that have to win and have to get
people who voted for Donald Trump to turn over and
vote for them in an off cycle election or a
down ballot race. If Gavin Newsom is successful, and I
(43:23):
believe he's a sociopath, so let's start there. But if
he's successful at getting people to stop splitting their ticket
and just vote the straight party line, because that benefits him.
I think it will benefit his standing in California, and
it'll benefit his standing in a Democratic primary, But he
in the process will slit the throats of all of
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those red state Democrats hoping to win reelection to the
US Senate.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
You'd love to see it, Thank you, John, Come back soon,
brother light in the mood. Next all right, it is
time to lighten the mood, and to lighten the mood today,
(44:10):
we are going to wish a very happy seventy seventh
birthday to one of the greatest living Americans, one Clarence Thomas.
Here he was, he.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Has a chance.
Speaker 8 (44:20):
I'm just a civil servant.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I know, Lance Lance, Lance eater, her Lance eater.
Speaker 10 (44:25):
He retired.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
He got to be looking for some work a little bit. No,
but you're a funny guy. What do you what do
you do?
Speaker 4 (44:31):
You just sort of sat around photo bombed before.
Speaker 10 (44:33):
No, No, I'm calling with TMZ. No, I'm just giving
your heart. Okay, man, we love your work. D No,
my sister did great school.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Was you in law school?
Speaker 8 (44:43):
Then?
Speaker 10 (44:44):
No, she did. She's a she's actually she did journalism also,
but she just yeah, so you go around bothering. No, no,
actually we find interesting people. What did you have to
what did you have to eat?
Speaker 6 (44:58):
No?
Speaker 10 (44:59):
No, no, come on, I.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
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