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November 5, 2025 46 mins

The U.S. Department of Justice continues to take on big cases. Jesse Kelly reveals some of them and catches up with Assistant U.S. Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon. Jesse also speaks with Senator Eric Schmitt about a plan to take on ANTIFA and judicial activism. Plus, Frances Martel provides an update on Christian persecution in Nigeria.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
We're going to talk about race communism. Harmy Dylan is here,
Senator Eric Schmidt is here. Are we going to war
with Nigeria? All that and more coming up?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
And I'm right, let's have a talk.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
And I know today is election day. It is a
huge election day, but obviously all the numbers are still
coming in from all across the country. It's more than
New York City, New Jersey, Virginia, Texas, South Carolina. I'm stayed.
After all these huge, huge results are coming in, but
that's going to have to wait till tomorrow. We're just

(00:43):
not going to know. And tomorrow, I promise you we're
going to talk to you about the good and the
bad and the ugly. Let's hope there's some good. I
think there'll be. Anyway, we'll talk about that tomorrow. Tonight,
we kind of wanted to do a refresher on something
we've talked about a lot because you see it so
often still race communism. Now remember remember there aren't separate

(01:05):
communist branches, not really right, it's all just about destroying
whatever society communists communism is trying to take hold in.
But that's hard to sell. You can't sell destruction to
the masses. You have to find various malcontented groups. You
have to find the aggrieved and recruit them into your movement.

(01:28):
So you can't just have climate nutters. There aren't enough
of them. There are some, so you need to get
them in the tent. And they're you know, some feminists
in their subar rus. You need to get them in
the tent. You see what I mean. They're just different
fingers of the same communist fist. It's all just communism
in the end, but it does help to understand the
tactics each branch, each brand use and why they use them.

(01:53):
Race communism is enormous. Do not make the mistake of
thinking this is a modern thing. It's just America because
we have a lot of right white guilt. That's partially true,
but remember this is the entire history of communism since
the earliest twentieth century. The Bolsheviks used it all the time.

(02:15):
Because we're not in Russia, because we're a clear across
to Pond, and most of us don't know all the
little intricacies of Russia. We think back to the Bolshevik
Revolution and we think, well, they're all just Russian, right,
They're all Russian. Probably drinking vodka. But Russia, like all countries,
had all kinds of different peoples with different backgrounds in there,

(02:41):
and communists knew they could pit one against the other
and exploit it for power. China, same thing, very very common,
especially because they all look similar to Western eyes, same
hair colors, same this and that. It's very easy to
look across and say, well, they're all Chinese. Surely Mao
was just talking to Chinese. But China has a long history,

(03:05):
one of the longest histories of any nation on the planet,
so many different sects and tribes and so many different
things in Mao used it extensively. Now, why because we
see it obviously here all over America, you see it.
We'll get to some examples in a moment. Why. Well,
the different fingers of the communist fists, they have different purposes.

(03:30):
You know that the climate communies want to destroy the
economy and things like that. But race communism is used
so often by communists because for what for two different reasons. One,
it plays on good people's morals. You can use good
people's morals against them, that's one. And two it's the

(03:50):
easiest sell. I mean, you're trying to sell it to
the masses. It's the easiest sell. Think about this. If
I'm trying to sell you climate communism, I really have
to go into science, which of course is all junk
garbage science because global warming isn't real. But I have
to sit you down and I have to try to explain, No,
you understand you you drive an suv and somehow that

(04:15):
the emissions are they're they're changing the Earth and they're
already your board. Harder sell. Race communism is so simple, though.
See my skin color, it's been oppressed. Your skin color
has been oppressed. You've been attacked by people with that
skin color. And if you give me power, I'll hurt

(04:35):
them for what they did. In fact, I'll take what's
theirs and I'll give it to you. Easiest sell in
the world. Now. The second part of why race communism
is so prevalent in the history of communism is it
goes back to something we've talked about all the time.
Communists use your morals against you. They are masterful at this.

(04:59):
They are purposeful about it. It's not an accident. If
you go read the things they write to each other. Tactics,
they use so much of it, just like the devil
is about taking your moral code, your morals, and twisting it,
sometimes a lot, sometimes a little, in using it against you.
You And by the way, it's not just you. Historically Russia, China,

(05:23):
but people were the same way. They don't want to
they don't want to seem intolerant, they don't want to
seem racist. I'm not a racist. But that desire of
yours to be a good person without prejudice, that desire
is used by the communists to destroy things you, of course,
remember there are so many examples you of course, remember

(05:45):
George Floyd dies. Now, we Americans have been conditioned by
the communist Civil rights movement. Remember the Soviets took over
the civil rights movement intentionally, that was an accidental they
recognized as an opportunity to split the country up. And
the communists and the civil rights movement have injected that

(06:06):
into America's education system, Hollywood media, politics, for ages and
ag and ages and ages. That has bred a white
guilt in so many Americans in this country. Even if
you don't walk around burdened by it, maybe maybe you're
uniquely sensitive to it. And we woke up one day,
we all woke up at the same thing. We woke up.

(06:26):
We rolled over and we pulled up our phones and
we thought, oh, well, that doesn't look good. Doesn't look good.
There's a video or there's a cop. He's on this
black guy's back and he's all sweaty and is calling
for his mom and then he dies and it looks bad.
Now the communists in the United States of America were

(06:48):
they upset about George Floyd? I think they were really sad.
They woke up. You saw that video. You were uncomfortable,
even though it turned out later, dear Chauvin didn't do
anything wrong. You were uncomfortable with the video. The communists
woke up. He saw that video, and do you know
what he did? Oh boy, this is awesome. We got

(07:09):
an opportunity here. He recognized an opportunity to take that
white guilt that's been ingrained in you by American society
and use it to destroy things. We wake up today
in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. We
can't even five and find Aunt Jemima on the pancake mix.

(07:30):
The communist savages tore through this society, getting cops fired,
turning criminals loose from jail. Now we have big cities
completely overrun by animals and it's a total disaster. The
communists recognized it as an opportunity because it was such
an easy sell. Didn't matter the truth behind it, truth
didn't matter at all. White cop on a black dude,

(07:52):
surely he's a racist and the black guy was totally innocent.
And this only happened because America's racist place. And the
only solution of that is to let all the cris
when goes out of jail, fire all the comps, and
of course hand out generous donations to Black lives matter.
Insanity but an easy cell. And of course it's spread
far and wide. You have morons like Lebron James.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Having you know, two boys of my own and me
being an African American in America, and to see what
continues to happen with the police brutality towards my kind,
continue to see what the what goes on with the
just to djust.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
It's very troubling.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
He's very troubled. He's a worth a billion dollars, He
flies on private planes, he lives on yachts. It's tough
for him here. That's the way it is. It's not
just athletes. There are many different kinds of black churches
in America, many different kinds of white churches. And there
are some black churches that are just wild and wonderful,

(08:58):
but there are many they're really centered in this black
liberation theology. They're not churches at all. In fact, they're
of the devil. Where black pastors and black leaders will
stand up in front of a black congregation and every
single Sunday instead of preaching the Word of God, they
will stand up in well, they'll do this.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Could I just have the privilege I'd like to say
a word to white churches. We are better than we
used to be, but we are not as good as
we ought to be, and that is not good enough,
which means you have to take up the work of
racial justice. Racism did not start in our lifetimes, but

(09:41):
racism can end in our lifetime.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
The church has been co opted, kats that it's bled
over into everything now it's been co opted. Not all
of the church, of course, that's not near all of them.
Don't let that shy you away from church, but that's
how it is now. It's disgusting. Not just democrats either.
I could tell you right now about Tim Scott working

(10:09):
with Corey Booker on federal police reform. I can tell
you about losers like bitt Romney doing stuff like this.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
My Senator, why is it important for you to be
out here today?

Speaker 7 (10:21):
We need a voice against racism. We need many voices
against racism and against brutality. We need to stand up
and say the black lives matter.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
With his stupid mask on and for so many people,
this has gone on for so long in the United
States of America that it has become and they know
this their ticket to success and their shield when they
find themselves in trouble. Corin Diversity Hire has been doing
this book tour, only it hasn't been easy street like

(10:52):
it normally is. People have questions. They want to know
when did you know the president was a vegetable? And
when she's been asked hard questions on the book tour,
what she pulled out? She pulls out the shield that
has kept her so safe for so long of Korean
Do you have any regrets at all for anything that
you said while you were speaking on behalf of this administration.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
I'm look, it's a no, no no, because you're asking
for a yesswer, no question.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
I want to put some context to it.

Speaker 9 (11:23):
Too.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
I woke up every day.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
I woke up every day very proud to be the
White House Press Secretary.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
I woke up every day as.

Speaker 8 (11:32):
A as a black woman who is queer, who had
never no one had ever seen someone like me at
that podium, standing behind that lecture. It was an honor
and a privilege to have that job, and I did
it to the best of my abilities.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And it's insidious. It's gone on for a very long time.
I do believe if we have to end on a
good note here before we move on and talk to
Harmy Dylan, I do believe it is on the outs.
The George Floyd stuff really was. It was kind of
the end. The credibility of all that kind of got

(12:08):
burnt up. American people are tired of it. They don't
want to hear it anymore, but they will always use it.
If you allow them, they will always use it. Never
allow them to do so. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. Harmeet Dylan is here.
She has been carrying a heavy load at the DOJ.
We're going to find out the who's who and what's

(12:30):
what about, what's going on and who's going to jail?
Before we do that, I want to talk to you
about something that is near and dear to my heart. Chips.
I love chips so much. Everybody who knows me knows
I'm a chip man. Not really pretzels so much, not
really crackers, although I can enjoy some of that. I'm

(12:53):
a chip man. That's my snack. But chips you buy
and the grocery store and gas station are freaking terrible
for you, and then you feel terrible afterwards. Don't you
just kind of feel yucky? Not Massive chips the greatest
chip on the planet. Massive chips because it's three ingredients,
variety of flavors. You know what I do. If it's

(13:14):
a sit around day Sunday, I pull out bag of
Massive Chips. I actually like to have an airw ones
and I take a little bottle of hot sauce and
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(13:35):
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Speaker 10 (13:50):
This Justice Department is deeply committed to racial justice and
racial equity and ensuring that we have environmental justice for
vulnerable community these is a part of that work.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know, every now and then you'll run into somebody
who's completely blackpilled and tell you stupid things like voting
doesn't matter. We can't vote our way out of this.
I want you to know that that human being is
the former Assistant ag That human being worked inside of
the Justice Department, and now she doesn't. Now she's been

(14:25):
replaced by one of the most wonderful, hardworking people I
know on our side, our Meat Dylan, US Assistant Attorney
General at the Civil Rights Division, A slight improvement over that, moron, Arman,
Is that lady, that is all that stuff still going on?
Or has there been some changes at the DJ?

Speaker 7 (14:43):
I felt like such a well, thanks for having me, Jesse.
You know, environmental justice is that even I don't even
know what that is. We don't we don't have we
don't have that department here in the Civil Rights Division anymore.
And our mission, like if you were to do a headline,
is civil rights for all Americans. What a radical concept,

(15:07):
yet a simple one. Encapsulated in our constitution, and that
is what we're aiming for here.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I mean, how much? And I understand that you have
to probably be pretty selective about what you say, but
how much of this filth did you find when you
was finally sat down at that desk and started going
through the personnel and the cases and things. Was it
just horrifying?

Speaker 7 (15:31):
Well, you know, Jesse, actually the personnel is the biggest problem.
And they were kind of on autopilots. So we had
some lawyers here for thirty and forty and even one
over fifty years, and they basically were cranking out whatever
left wing stuff they wanted to do, no matter who
was the president. So under the first Trump administration, pretty
much the same stuff went on as under the Obama

(15:53):
administration because the personnel were the same and there wasn't
the political will at the top to change it. And
all of that changed with the second coming of the
President Trump administration and Pam Bondi has been a great
leader and I've basically been given free reign to implement
the changes that were necessary. And so when I came

(16:13):
in in my second week in April, I came in
and I sort of told all of the lawyers here
that whenever they were doing before, they needed to, you know,
kind of take a pause, and we're going to be
taking our cues from both our federal civil rights laws
and the Constitution, but also the president's executive orders. That
actually caused more than two hundred attorneys to quit here
in the Civil Rights Division, like half of the people quit,

(16:34):
and that was a fundamental see change that I think
is I mean, it is the type of change you
probably have never seen in the Civil Rights Division. And
so yeah, we have radically changed the Civil Rights Division
to reconfigure it to work for all Americans. And it's
going to take a while for that to ever be
turned around, I think, and I hope it never gets

(16:55):
turned around, because that's what we should be doing here
at the DJ.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
That's nice when the trash takes itself out. How much
of a challenge have you found it to fill those
spots up or do you even want to fill those
spots up? I continue to hear that the part of
the challenges you can't find people who want to come
risk the reputational dangers of working underneath army.

Speaker 7 (17:19):
Well that's the left wing you know kind of trope.
But The fact is we do have a problem on
the conservative side because there are actually very few lawyers
who are trained in and dedicated to civil rights from
this constitutionalist perspective. As you know from talking to me

(17:40):
many times, that has been my career. I come at
the First Amendment and equal protection and voting rights from
that traditional conservative perspective. But they're you know, like your
average Like we have a federalist society, a big meeting
coming up this week, and most of the lawyers are
going to come in and they're like, you know, pulling
down big salaries representing polluters and you know whatever, big corporations,

(18:05):
napalm manufacturers.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
What have you.

Speaker 7 (18:07):
And they like, they pay this tax to come to
the Fed sock and they're going to feel good about
themselves for like two days and go back to doing
their you know, lucrative jobs, not doing any good for Americans.
I have given that lecture to a lot of young people.
Some of them heard it, and some of them came
and to work for me, and we need more of
them to hear that this is an opportunity, a once

(18:27):
in a generation opportunity to come in and help write
the ship of state and change your country for the better.
It is totally worth it. It is fun. We are having
laughs and fun and zeal and. We get up every
morning and are excited about what we do and so
I want to invite people in. It's going to be
really fun for the next three years here in this administration.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Speaking of young people, how do we root and I
know it's a long, long slog, I expect you to
do it in a year. How do we root the
DEI feels out of our university system. So it's just
so poisonous that our higher education system tries to destroy
young minds instead of building them and teaching them how
to think. How do we root that out? Can it

(19:09):
even be done?

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Well, it can be done, and it must be done,
and this administration is doing it. But let me give
you some perspective. So there are six thousand plus institutions
of higher learning in the United States that are getting
federal funding. Just about every single one except for Hills
the Dale, it's getting federal funding. Okay, So that's like
the scope.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Now.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
In my first week in office, I sent letters to
fifty the top fifty schools, and then I added in
the top law schools and the top medical schools. Only
seventy five schools or so, maybe eighty schools now, I've
gotten letters from me. We aimed at the top, and
our theory is, if we can catalyze change in those schools,
it's going to flow downhill. And here's what I can
report to you, like seven and a half months into

(19:51):
this job, which is that the public schools are actually
kind of writing the ship themselves, particularly in purple or
red state. They are eager to prove to us that
they are not doing this stuff anymore. UNC for example,
has really been very proactive. Uva reached a landmark settlement
with the Department of Justice. I was pretty hard on them.

(20:13):
I'm an alumnus of UVA Law School. We had a
lot of complaints and they heard it. They hired a
good president, and they have fixed a lot of the problems,
not all of them, but they're working on them now.
Some of these other institutions, Columbia, you know, we did
a landmark deal with them, Harvard still talking to Harvard,

(20:34):
hoping to land the plane over there. And I do
think that we're making these changes, but ultimately the money
is what matters. And so President Trump has been willing
to take a hard line here and say what the
law says, which is, you don't get federal funding if
you violate federal law. And the United States Supreme Court

(20:55):
and two important decisions has given us a guideline of
what that is. Students for Fair Admissions, which everyone's familiar
with about admissions into schools, and then Ames versus Ohio
about hiring, which says that white people don't have a
higher standard to prove discrimination than blacks or other minorities.
And so we are seeing the writing on the wall,
and we are enforcing those laws. And I think by

(21:17):
the end of this administration you will see permanent changes
in these institutions. You are already seeing them.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Talk to me about election integrity. I know this is
something you're looking into. You're not at all dismissive of it.
I don't traffic in bonkers theories here. But people think
about twenty twenty, myself included, and it looks dirty, it
looks terrible. There are a lot of things that the
American people deserve an explanation for what's coming. Is anything coming?

Speaker 7 (21:45):
Well, Jesse, it was dirty. I was a lawyer for
the president at that time in the campaign, and we
were working hard on these issues, and in twenty twenty
four as well, And so I saw some crazy things
happened in twenty twenty and COVID was used as an
excuse to permanently change our voting laws in so many

(22:07):
ways and just bastardize them in a way that's inconsistent
with the Constitution. The Constitution says that only state legislatures
can pass election laws. Yet you saw a state Supreme
court in Pennsylvania. You saw state attorney's general in some
of these swing states just make up their own laws
and pass them. This is illegal. Are we ever going
to see accountability? Well, my office has sent a letter

(22:28):
to Fulton County, Georgia, demanding, under our authority under the
Civil Rights Act, on behalf of the Attorney General the
ballots that were being sequestered there during litigation, and we're
going to take a look at those. We're going to
get those, and we're going to see what happened in
Fulton County, Georgia. We're looking at some theories regarding some

(22:48):
other jurisdictions as well, where they simply blatantly violated their
own state laws regarding these elections. I do think it's
important that we have sort of a truth telling as
to what happened and so that it's never repeated. Today
is an election day here and DOJ sent civil rights
lawyers into Pasaic County, New Jersey, and into five counties

(23:10):
in California. I just had a briefing from one of
my lawyers in the field, is one of my senior
lawyers here. I think it's very important that all Americans
feel confident in the outcome of our elections. We are
kind of far away from that. To be very frank,
there need to be some changes. There need to be
some I mean, after today, after what I heard, some
of the things I heard, there's going to be some
legal action from the Department of Justice on some of

(23:31):
these issues, and so I'm not dismissive of it. At
the same time, you know, some people have some wack
a doodle theories out there, and it really isn't productive
to indulge in conspiracy theories. And so what I have
to do is walk the fine line. I get criticized
on some other podcasts, So why are you sending what
letters are met? Why aren't you like sending in the

(23:52):
National Guard or something. Well, because this isn't martial law.
This is America. We have some due process over here.
We have to follow certain steps here at the Department
of Justice, and we're following them. I talked to the President,
I talked to the White House, and I'm also a
lawyer for over three decades, and so rest assured that
this president and this DOJ is firmly committed to election

(24:13):
integrity and we're doing everything possible within the bounds of
the law to make sure that we get to the
bottom of what happened, what's going to happen, and that
everyone feel confident in the outcome of our future elections.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
ARMI, I sleep so much better at night knowing that
you were there. I appreciate you more than you know.
Thank you, ma'am. Come back something. Elections matter. I hope
you voted today. Elections matter. That woman is there instead
of Christen Clark because people got up and voted. Remember that. Also,

(24:48):
remember to switch your cell phone service to pirtalk. The
corporate world is in this fight too, not just the government,
not just federal, state and local. The corporate world has
aside and they're banking on you not punishing them for that.
Verizon at and T T Mobile, they are banking on

(25:09):
you forgiving them for all the horrible things they've done
to the right, for all the things they've done with
your money. We talked about Black Lives Matter earlier. Have
you looked up your cell phone carrier and what they
were doing when the animals were in the streets of
this country, burning down police precincts and murdering people. Pure
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(25:31):
veteran led and they hire Americans. When you talk to
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Go to pure talk dot com slash jessetv. We'll be back. Well,

(25:54):
we're not going to let the Arctic frost thing go.
That's the bad news. The good news is somehow somewhat Missouri.
You wouldn't think it'd beat. Missouri has turned into the
anti communist capital of the United States of America. You
would think it'd be Texas or something like maybe South Carolina,
but they just keep churning out studs. Senator Senator now
Eric Schmidt joins us from the great state of Missouri.

(26:16):
Senator I'm thrilled you're there, but I'm mad the FBI
spied on you what happened.

Speaker 11 (26:21):
H Well, I mean I said it, and maybe I
understated that this whole thing is like one hundred times
worse than Watergate if you put it in his full context.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Jesse, you got at the beginning Russia Gate.

Speaker 11 (26:33):
Of course in twenty sixteen, Hunter Biden laptop suppression in
twenty twenty to make sure he didn't, you know, get back.
And then when they get in, they start censoring. And
in three days after President Trump announces he's running for
president in twenty twenty two, a couple of things happen.
You got the criminal prosecution Atlanta, criminal prosecution in New York.
Then Jack Smith is appointed, this known henchman, he's a

(26:56):
total dirt bag, starts not just going after President Trump
to put him in jail for the rest of his life,
but this broad dragnet of I was chairman of the
Republican ag Association at the time. Charlie Kirk's organization subpoenas
phone records of sitting senators. This is crazy. This is crazy.
And Judge Boseburg, by the way, he is right in
the middle of all of it, with a special note

(27:17):
in the subpoenas not to notify the Senators, which is
likely illegal.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
And for sure should begin.

Speaker 11 (27:24):
The House should begin impeachment proceedings against Judge Boseburg for
his contact. So this thing is broad, it's sweeping. It's
the weaposation of government, and we're still learning more. And
if President Trump wouldn't have won, all this stuff would
still be happening, right, and so anyway, we got to
put a stop to it, and people have to be
held accountable.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Senator, can I ask you a little bit more about
Boseburg because everyone knows that name now, because of course
he was front and center trying to stop everything Trump
did as soon as he got elected again. And if
no one was shocked to see that alien who was
doing all the things to you and other people on
the right, can he be impeached? I know you're calling

(28:04):
for it, and I'm happy for it, But do we
have the guts on the right to get rid of
these bad judges because we can't fix anything with these
judges here right Listen.

Speaker 11 (28:13):
I don't take that lightly, Like I don't take it lightly,
but but like it's not Impeachment is not just some
scarecrow like it actually has to mean something. And to
put that in further context. He was the Faiza Court guy.
He's the guy that gave a speech before Trump got
in office about how he's gonna throw at the agenda.

(28:33):
Then he starts getting some of these cases. He wasn't
the assignment judge for that day, like on the big one,
the you know, the the illegal immigrant case that he got,
he was on vacation, Jesse.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
He got it one in the morning, one in the morning.
Did he was he tipped off? I don't know.

Speaker 11 (28:48):
We should probably find out. Then we find out this
arctic frost stuff, He's right in the center of it.
So absolutely the House should move forward with impeachment inquiry.
Then we come to the Senate. Now do we have
enough votes in the Senate to ultimately get that done
or the enough Democrats that are can agree to that.
I don't know, But like at some point we got
to start doing something about these rogue.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Judges, Senator, the other bad actors. And there are just
so many to name FBI agents. I understand many have
been fired. We have the James Comy, so John Brennan's
of the world. I don't like to tell people ridiculous
things that can't happen and give people false hope. What
level of accountability can we bank on. I don't want

(29:30):
to sit here and say they're all going to prison.
That's ridiculous and not true. But someone has to go
to prison for all this. Is that possible? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (29:37):
And I try to That's why you and I get
along so well. I try to do the same thing.
I don't just try to throw the bombs out there.
If there nothing's gonna happen. But I do think, Okay,
so the statute limitations on. Let's just take the Russia
Gate stuff and a lot of this stuff. The statute
limitation sadly has run on some of these crimes. However,

(29:59):
where I do do you think there's a real case
to be made and could be made, is on a
conspiracy because the statute of limitations essentially continues to run.
So the example I've given is, if you're a co
conspirator in mile marker one. Let's just say you made
up a bunch of stuff about Trump having ties to
Russia that you laundered through intelligence agencies like Comy, Brennan

(30:20):
and Clapper. Even though you leave government or you take
an exit ramp at mile marker five, you are still
liable for that criminal conduct that happens at mile marker ten,
and that's where we're at. So I do think you
can make a credible case that a conspiracy has existed
now for almost ten years that was based on trumped

(30:41):
up documents in fake charges against him being a Russian asset,
and all you think of all the things that happened
to try to sideline a presidential candidate, then a presidency,
and then a guy running for reelection. I do think
something can happen from there, and it should.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Senator. The shutdown. Obviously, there's a lot that I love
about the government being shut down, but I really do
not like the fact that we can't pay our military members.
We can't. It's bad and it doesn't look like there's
an end in sight. But I'm not in the Senate,
nor would I ever be welcomed into the Senate. You are.
What's the status here.

Speaker 11 (31:18):
Yeah, we're on day thirty five now of the Schumer shutdown,
and Republicans have again basically offered a clean continuing resolution
basically keep government fundings level.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Like I don't.

Speaker 11 (31:30):
I'm not thrilled about that idea, By the way, I'd
like to do something, but in the meantime while we
work on appropriations bills. That's what Republicans are saying. Democrats
have said no. Why two reasons. One is they do
want healthcare for illegal immigrants, there's no doubt about that.
And they also want to prove to their more radicalized
base that they're fighting Trump. So when does the damn break?
I actually think I could be wrong about this. Maybe

(31:52):
it's breaking news. I think today is a very important
day because they've got these elections in New York where
they're about ready to elect a communists, New Jersey, Virginia.
They are they want to keep their base spun up
on this fake idea that they're fighting Trump, and so
I think that later this week the government could reopen.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
That's my take.

Speaker 11 (32:15):
Also, I don't think Schumer actually votes for it anyway,
even though he's a Democrat leader, because he's so afraid
of AOC's so afraid of his own shadow, and he's
afraid she's gonna run against him for Senate, and so
I just don't think he'll come around on it.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
But I do think this week is a pivotal week.

Speaker 11 (32:31):
And my best guest, maybe it's a little optimistic, is
that actually we get the government back open. We start
paying air traffic controllers, we start paying ice agents, we
start paying you know, the people who are working in
law enforcement, and we get that stuff done.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Senator, appreciate you very much, sir, thank you. All right,
what's going on in Nigeria. Christians are being slaughtered. But
but I don't know about Nigeria. I'm assuming you're not
a Nigeria expert either. Will talk to Francis Martell who
does know about Nigeria in a moment. Now, all these
things it can cause insomnia. You wake up in the

(33:08):
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(33:52):
will always have it. We'll be back. Well. Something that
is not getting enough attention is the persecution of Christians
around the globe, but most definitely in Nigeria. Those of
us who have looked in on this have witnessed some

(34:15):
of the most heartbreaking scenes you can possibly imagine. But
I'm not going to sit here and pretend like you
are boned up on the news of Nigeria. And look,
I'm not the Nigeria expert either. So if we want
to go to foreign soil and find out exactly what's
going on and why the Trump administration is talking about
going in guns blazing, we should probably talk to Francis
about it. Joining me now, wonderful, wonderful editor with Breitbart

(34:37):
International News, Francis Martel. Francis, I don't know, squad about Nigeria.
Ninety nine point nine nine percent of the people watching
us right now don't know anything about Nigeria. So go
ahead and do a Nigeria one oh one for us.
What's happening? What's up with this country? What's going on?

Speaker 9 (34:53):
Well?

Speaker 6 (34:53):
Thank you, First of all for having me and lucky
for you. At Breibart, we've been covering Christian persecution in
Nigeria at least twelve years. I mean, I think it
was my first year there that we started really getting
into it. The basics is that in most countries where
we talk about persecution of Christians, there's a very small
minority of Christians that are persecuted by the state, which

(35:13):
is the majority. So in most Islamic countries, for example,
or in China where you have a small secret or
in North Korea, you know, population of Christians. In Nigeria,
the breakdown is about sixty forty sixty percent Muslim, forty
percent Christian, and the majority of Southern Nigeria is Christian.
So this is kind of a unique situation, and a

(35:34):
lot of the worst persecution happens in a region called
the Middle Belt, which is exactly what it sounds like.
It's if you cut Nigeria in half, that area where
the Muslim North and the Christian South meet. That's where
we're seeing the biggest massacres. And there's a systematic displacement
campaign that has been going on there for at least

(35:55):
ten years by mostly ethnic Fulani Muslims who are going
into villages and communities and essentially exterminating that population, displacing
them into camps. And this is separate from a different
persecution campaign in the North against the minority of Christians there,
mostly by Bokoharam, which we all know from that horrible

(36:16):
kidnapping in twenty fourteen, that is still not completely resolved.
So there's two major insurgencies there. And it is unique
because there simply are so many Christians.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Okay, Francis, I have a couple questions that are very
stupid questions, but I kind of need clarification on a
couple things. First of all, this displacement campaign the Christians
who are in these areas. One, why don't they move?
Can they move? In?

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Two?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Why don't they shoot back? Sixty forty is not exactly
a tiny, tiny minority? Is there no armed force for
the Christians to shoot back?

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Well, these are actually really intelligent questions. You really undersold them.
The first one, why don't they move? The answer is
they are moving. We're seeing the population of Christians in
the Middle Belt decline significantly, and not all of them
are being murdered. A lot of them simply are fleeing,
but the ones that don't for the most part, it's
two main reasons. One they have nowhere to go. They

(37:18):
don't have the money to go anywhere. And number two,
that's the indigenous population of that area. These are people
and they tend to be smaller ethnic groups. There are
three major ethnic groups in Nigeria, the Fulani being one
of them. These are smaller groups that have no real
pull in the capitol with politicians, so they have nowhere
to go and this is their homeland they refuse to leave.

(37:40):
As for are they armed, well, we had an incident
in a Plateau's state, which is in the center of
Nigeria a few months ago actually, where the government is
so incompetent at protecting these communities that the governor of
that state came out and told people make vigilante militias,
like try to get guns wherever you can to protect
us because the government it's not coming to help. So

(38:01):
they are trying to do that. But they're only trying
to do that because the government has completely abandoned them.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Okay, that leads me directly into the question of can
we get them guns. We've got lots of them. I'm
happy to become a smuggler.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
Well, you know, we could. It would be something like
an Iran contra, a fair type situation. I don't think
any I don't know which congressman is going to be
the one that stands up and says, you know, what
I really want is like a fast and furious but
in Nigeria, and we don't know who in whose hands
those will end up, right, because these Fulani herdsmen. So
the talking point from the government is that we are

(38:41):
helpless to stop these Fulani herdsmen because they're herdsmen. They're
just you know, they're also indigenous to the land, which
is not true according to the Christians there. And they're
roving bandits. You're not even allowed in Nigerian media to
identify them as Muslim. They're just unknown gunmen and bandits.
And so there's this idea of like disorganization that is

(39:04):
not actually what is happening. These are armies. This is
something akin to what happened in Sudan in Darfur, when
you know when George Clooney cared about that a million
years ago. I'm dating myself bringing that up. But it's
very very organized and so yes, you could throw guns
out there, but there are armed militias that will probably
seize them, and then you have an Afghanistan type situation.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Okay. Now that brings us to the Trump administration. Sometimes
Trump will put something out on social media he's very
serious about and sometimes not. How seriously do you think
they're taking this? Are we going to get involved? How
can we even get involved?

Speaker 6 (39:44):
I think he's taking it seriously because he was the
first president to designate Nigeria a Country of Particular Concern
for religious persecution in his first term in twenty twenty,
he put it on the list. So this isn't new
for Trump. It just got drowned out in the madness
of twenty twenty that he was actually invested in this.
So I do think he wants to make a difference
here the guns a blazing comment. I don't think he

(40:06):
exactly wants to pull like a full scale, you know,
Iraq invasion of Nigeria. I don't think that would be successful.
But he's putting the pressure because right now all of
the pressure on the Nigerian government is on behalf of
the genocidal Muslim Fulani herdsman. Those are the people pressuring
the government. If there's no pressure on the other side.
They're not going to defend the Christians.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
All right, Francis, let's switch gears, because there's a lot
of things going on around the world. I want to
try to wrap up with you here. Trump Metaji. There
is a pause in hostilities. I guess I should put
it that way. Is that how you would characterize.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
It, I think, or maybe a reprioritizing of which hostilities
we're trying to deal with. I thought the most interesting
thing about that meeting was that they talked about Ukraine,
and the big obstacle in Ukraine right now is that
Pumin is completely intransigent. Right like we had this moment
there was going to be a summit in Hungary. Zelenski
even said would be there, and the Russian said no.

(41:02):
So now Trump is trying a different tag, I think,
and going to Shijinping and saying, well, can China do
anything for us, because you know, you don't want to
end up having a super powerful Russia to your north.
And I think that was the negotiation that happened. So
now the trade talks are less important than what can
we do together to stabilize Eastern Europe? And I think

(41:22):
that was the shift that happened.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Okay, can you explain why it seems like, at least
from the outside looking in, it did seem like on
more than one occasion that Putin wanted this thing to
wrap up. He made public comments to that effect, and
now he doesn't really seem uninterested in it. What happened,
did something happen? Well?

Speaker 6 (41:43):
Putin is just a master of wasting people's time. That's
what he's done for the past two decades. That's what
he did the first time he invaded Ukraine, which was
in twenty fourteen under Obama. That's what he did in Georgia.
He basically ran out the clock and took two of
Georgia's territories. Under George W. Bush, I think he says
exactly the right thing to keep this thing going in

(42:04):
the long term, and he needed just enough time to
also recalibrate because he was losing a lot of profits
from the sanctions, and he has a problem at home.
There's a lot of mothers whose soldier sons aren't coming home,
and I think he found a solution to that through
North Korea and Cuba, and so that's what's keeping the
war going.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
All right, Let's go to Cuba and then keep traveling
south to Venezuela. Here is Russia helping them? Why are
they helping them? Where is this all going?

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Well?

Speaker 6 (42:36):
The Russians have a very deep relationship with the Cuban
Castro regime since the air of the Soviet Union. They're
very very close. And Russia and Venezuela, as a result,
have that relationship because Venezuela essentially acts as a proxy
of the Cuban regime. They work together in tandem. Venezuela
offers free oil to the extent that it can, and

(42:57):
Venezuela offers Russia as in the Western hemisphere that is
bigger than it's ever had anything before. I think having
Russia be able to fly nuclear bombers around Venezuela to
threaten US is something that's very valuable. So Russia's going
to stand up for them. And the Foreign Ministry came
out and said, you know, we're here if Venezuela says
that they need help against the Americans.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Right, Francis as always, thank you for the education.

Speaker 12 (43:24):
Come back so we have light in the mood. Next, Hi,
it's time.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
To lighten the mood. And I keep using this term
because it makes me sound smart. Litigious. You've heard this
term before previously, those of us on the right. Maybe
you call yourself a conservative. We didn't like the idea
of suing people. You can't sue people, shouldn't sue people.
That's what the left does. But the truth is that

(43:58):
it is an effective to ru against people, especially people
in the media, who lie about you. You're you're not allowed.
You shouldn't be allowed to use these big public platforms
to tell outright lies. And Donald Trump, to his credit,
is litigious. He started suing all these big media companies

(44:19):
and getting multimillion dollar settlements because they would just get
up and tell gigantic lies. Now, the communist relies on lies.
We talk about this all the time. He builds and
maintains a world of make believe for his brain dead followers.
Your liberal at Peggy believes a bunch of things that
aren't real. Because we have started to sue when they

(44:41):
tell outright lies, we now are treated routinely to legal
disclaimers like this one on the view the.

Speaker 13 (44:49):
Trump family has made about one point eight billion dollars
profited off of this government. And he said that Joe
Biden didn't know who he was partning using an autopen
How come you don't know who this guy is?

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Does he used an order?

Speaker 9 (45:03):
Lend me that lend me meet with the judge? The
meetings that are they're supposed to go to when they're
listening to what the hell whatses notes? You don't know
if pen used if Trump used an autopen apart it.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Was a joke.

Speaker 13 (45:20):
We don't know if Trump used an autopener mine, but
we do know that he didn't know who that crypto
guy was.

Speaker 9 (45:27):
Well, I'm sorry. You know the hardest thing about this
job now is no one understands nuance there. You know,
when you hear a joke, when somebody's fooling around, when
they're not saying something specific, Especially on this show. I'm
very specific when I'm when I'm pointing stuff out, when

(45:49):
I'm making jokes. You know, when I'm making jokes.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Anyhood there's so mad? Why can't I just lie? It's
wonderful see them all
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