February 21, 2025 • 46 mins
It has HAPPENED! Kash Patel has finally been confirmed as President Trump's FBI director, meaning all of his main system disrupter picks (outside of Matt Gaetz) have been CONFIRMED. Jesse Kelly takes a victory lap and unpacks what this means with Ben Weingarten. This comes as President Trump has engaged in a very public spat with Ukraine's Zelenskyy. Mike Cernovich joins Jesse with his thoughts on that. Plus, is Andrew Cuomo mounting a political comeback? Jesse catches up with Inez Stepman to find out.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Glory, hallelujah. We have a new FBI director. We'll talk
about that tonight. Benjamin Winegarden joins us. Who is Cash Patel?
What's going on with this spat? Was Selenski and Trump
all that coming up on?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm right, I'd shut down the FBI Hoover building on
day one and reopening to the next day as a
museum of.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
The deep State.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Oh my gosh, I'm so excited right now, Cash Patel,
it's official, is the new head of the FBI. Now,
before we get into the FBI and before we have
our wonderful show tonight about all kinds of things FBI, Ukraine,
all kinds of things. I want you to take a
moment and reach back. If your arms are long enough
to pat yourself on the back. You're probably sitting there thinking, well,
(00:57):
what did I do? I didn't do anything. Listen to me.
When Donald Trump got elected the GOP Senate talking about
the Senate here, you know that's where freedom goes to die.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The GOP Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
They thought they had a little moment where they thought
they were going to try to stop Trump from draining
the swamp. Because rest assured, as we've talked about many
many times before. It's not just the communists who want
the swamp.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
To stay just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Establishment gopeers are just as evil and just as corrupt.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
They know they have to lie during election season.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But Mitch McConnell hates you twice as much as Chuck
Schumer has ever hated you. These people don't want reform,
they don't want changes, They certainly don't want the books
opened up. So anyway Trump gets elected and he has. Honestly,
I was shocked. I was shocked at how amazing the
most of the picks were some I didn't like, but most,
for the most part, they were reformers.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
How long have we talked about that on the show?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Reformers people who are not going to look outward, people
who are going to take over a government program, a
bureaucracy of some.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Kind and try to reform it, drain the swamp.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Trump was just rolling out reformer after reformer and hag
Seth and Tulci and rr FK and all these things,
and the GOP Senate for about five minutes they thought
to themselves, No, we'll put a stop to that. Yeah, yeah,
Trump won, and we know we have to play nice
with Trump, but no, no, we're not just gonna let
these reformers come in and change things. No, no, no,
(02:32):
we're not gonna allow any change. And you remember they did.
The first one was Matt Gates. Remember that Matt Gates
was like the first one.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Trump announced, Hey, my ag.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Is Matt Gates, and immediately the swamp No, absolutely not stop,
he can't.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
He won't have the votes. No, and they won. That
was the thing they won.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Matt Gates lasted a couple of days, made the rounds
on the hill and didn't look like he was gonna
have the votes.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Backed out, and.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Right about that point in time, the GOP Senate was
feeling pretty good. The establishment types nice, yeah, they got Trump,
but we're not going to allow any actual reforms. And
then came Pete Hegseth and they decided to try it again.
Of course, now they were being careful about the whole thing.
But it was Jony Ernst. Don't think I've forgotten about you,
Jony Ernst. It was the Jony Ernst types. It was
(03:24):
a Lindsay Graham types. And people talk in Washington, d C.
I heard the same things you heard. They were working
behind the scenes to try to stop Pete hegseth he
wants to come in and reform things at the Pentagon
an audit.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
We we can't have that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Hey, I got a lot of money on the line.
And they started to make statements, well, I'm very concerned
about these allegations. Well I'm just not quite sure yet.
They started to pretend as if they were really considering things,
but what they wanted was to stop it. And so
as soon as they started voicing their concern, they started
to feel heat from you. You are as responsible for
(04:04):
what happened today with cash Betel as anything else out there.
Right now, this is your doing. You put the pressure
on these scumbags. Joni Ernst I heard this. I know
this for a fact. Her office phone in email system
was practically melting with your hatred of you. Better vote
(04:24):
for Pete Heg says, who do you think you are?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And she caught so.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Much heat that we finally had senators going on stage.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I remember Lisa Murkowski going on.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Stage say, and now they're even threatening Jony Ernst with
a primary This is crazy. Well Jony Ernz learned a
valuable lesson, and so did the rest of the GOP.
Notice how all the rest of them sailed right through.
Oh yeah, we have the little Mitch McConnell votes, but
they're all then congratulations too, are right on to cash battel.
(04:56):
We have somebody who's going to look inward.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
We will go out and find the conspiratories, not just
in government, but in the media. Yes, we're going to
come after the people in the media who lied about
American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections. We're
going to come after you. Whether it's criminal or civilly,
we'll figure that out. But yeah, we're putting you all
on noticing.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's time to go after bad guys, bad guys inside
of the system. No more of this crusading looking for
this so that it's time to actually drain the swamp.
And inside the Hoover building, Well, that's where the sword
and Shield is, isn't it the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
(05:39):
mostly courtesy of Barack Obama. I realize it's always had
problems where Barack Obama got in there, cleaned out all
the real crime fighters, replaced them all with card carrying
communists who would do communist things. That is, wage war
on you, wage war on the political opponents.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Of Democrats, and they've done.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
That, and they've been doing it for years, and they've
been loving it, and they have so much power. I've
said several times the FBI, if it is not brought
to heel, If Cash Betel is not successful in bringing
the FBI to heal, I mean this.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I believe the FBI will end the United States of America,
as you know it. I do because the communists cannot
control themselves, so they'll continue to attack us and attack
us and attack us, and that will eventually lead to
Red States forming up against the FBI. Now you have
a square off with the federal government against the states.
You see where this is going. If the FBI is
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not brought to heal, it will end America.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It will. That is Cash's duty and he knows it.
And the good.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
News is the bad guys inside the FBI, they're afraid.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
It is a place in utter disarray right now.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
People are worried about how am I going to pay
the bills?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
How am I going to support my family if I lose.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
You know, if you're anywhere in the middle of that career,
not close to retirement, if you get fired, you're done.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
That's the end of your reputation, your ability to get
a new job.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
You lose your pay, you lose your chance at a pension,
you lose your health insurance.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
This is a moment of terror for these people.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
It is absolutely disgraceful that they are being put through
this in the middle of some political gamesmanship or active retribution.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
They don't deserve to be treated this way. It's unlawful
and it's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Moment of terror. Huh.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's interesting. If you're in the FBI, why would
you be afraid?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I bet, I know, I bet, I know, I bet.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The answer is, you're a disgusting communist apparachet, and you
have taken your role, your critical role at the FBI,
and you chose to instead of enforcing the law, instead
of going after criminals, you instead chose to go after
the political opponents of Democrats while protecting Democrats like you,
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like Joe Biden. That's how we ended up with an
FBI director so mentally twisted that he could, with a
straight face announce that the biggest threat in this country
is white supremacy.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
When you've never even met a white supremacist.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
A huge chunk of those domestic terrorst and investigations involve
racially motivated, violent extremist motivated terrorist attacks, and the majority
of those of the racially motivated violent extremist attacks are
fueled by some kind of white supremacy.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That was of course a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Why did they tell that lie, Well, they spent years
calling you a white supremacist nazi, white supremacist nazi.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Then you get the FBI to direct.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
All of its efforts against white supremacy, and look at that,
we get to arrest Republicans at will.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's why everyone knew that was the game. And you
have to feel.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Happy today for guys like Steve Friend, Marcus at Darreed O'Boyle,
the brave whistleblowers who didn't remain silent when the FBI
turned into the cheka, the guys who stepped up and
spoke up bravely.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
It appears that I was retaliated against because I forded
information in my superiors and others that questioned the official
narrative of the events of January sixth.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
As a result, I.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
Was accused of promoting conspiratorial views and unreliable information. Because
I did this, the FBI questioned my allegiance to the
United States.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
Mister friend, you've ever been to a school board meeting?
Speaker 10 (09:34):
Yes, FBI ever sent you to the parking lot of a.
Speaker 9 (09:37):
School board meeting, Yes they have. And in the parking
lot of a school board meeting where the FBI.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Sent you, you were taking down information regarding people's license plates.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
That's correct, But the FBI will crush you.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
This government will crush you and your family if you
try to expose the truth about things that they are
doing that are wrong, and we are all examples of that.
I hope Cash Mattel chooses to make those gentlemen hole.
They certainly deserve it. They've sacrificed so much for this country,
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and let's talk about that. Cash Battel. I'm a fan,
Don't don't get wrong, I'm a fan. I'm thrilled about this.
I'm doing backflips. But he has a mountain to climb.
An evil secret state police agency is not just going
to lay down for the new director. They've been working
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tirelessly since Donald Trump won that election to hide.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Their evil deeds.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
God only knows how many emails have been deleted, phone
records evident. God only knows the horrible things they've been
doing as they prepare to have someone come in and
shed light on them. They know Cash Battel, he's going
to do things like, Hey, who decided to designate school
board moms as terrorists?
Speaker 11 (10:56):
Parents who have the courage to ensure their children are
taught what they feel is right, and those who have
the courage of their convictions to go houses of worship
in my book, will never be domestic terrorists.
Speaker 12 (11:10):
Will you find out who was involved in this policy
within the FBI, who agreed with it, who implemented it,
who encourage it? Will you find out that, mister Bettel,
Will you do an internal investigation? And will you make
clear that those who supported this policy are appropriately disciplined?
And will you make clear that the FBI will never
do something like this again?
Speaker 11 (11:31):
If confirmed and pursued into your congressional request, Absolutely, Senator.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
A mountain to Kline. Now, how are we going to
know if he's climbing that mountain? What indication are we
going to have? I'm not inside the Hoover building, neither
are you. So what are we going to look for? Well,
guys have to be arrested. FBI agents are going to
have to go to prison. If Cash Mattel finishes his
four years as FBI director without any current FBI agents
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go into prison.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Cash Betel was a failure.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I can't lay it out any more clearly than that, Well, what.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Guys, what guys? I don't know. If let's start with
Elvis Chan.
Speaker 13 (12:10):
I was very involved our field office FBI San Francisco,
was very involved in helping to protect the US elections
in twenty twenty. And I think we can all agree,
or I think many of us can agree that it
was a very safe election.
Speaker 14 (12:25):
We talked with all of these entities I mentioned regularly,
at least on a monthly basis, and right before the election,
probably on a weekly basis.
Speaker 9 (12:34):
Right, if they were.
Speaker 14 (12:35):
Seeing anything unusual, if we were seeing anything unusual, sharing
intelligence with technology companies, with social media companies so that
they could protect their own platforms, Right.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, using your position as special agent in the FBI
to ensure Facebook Sensor's a very truthful story about Hunter Biden.
So Joe Biden can win an election in Donald Trump
doesn't get another four years, that's a prison sentence. Cash
Bettel has a mountain to climb. I have no doubt
he is the man for the job. We shall see
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Speaker 15 (14:19):
Having been the victim of government overreach and a weaponized
system of justice and law enforcement. I know what it
feels like to have the full weight of the United
States government barreling down on you. And as the Biden
Inspector General determined, those activities by the FBI and DJ
were wholly improper and not predicated upon law in facts,
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I will ensure, if confirmed, that no American is subjected
to that kind of torment, to that kind of cost,
financially and personally, And most importantly, I will make sure
that no American is subjected to death threats like I was,
and subjected to moving their residence is like I was
because of government overreach, because of leaks of information about
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my personal status. If confirmed as FBI Director, mister Chairman,
you have my commitment that no one in this country
will feel that pain.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Gosh, I'm excited because he seems angry, and I want
a bunch of FBI people going to prison joining me now.
Benjamin Winegarden, Editor at Large for real clear investigations.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Okay, Ben, what can we expect?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I obviously am as familiar with Cash as anyone who
does what we do, but I've never met the man.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We're not friends. We're not friends. What kind of guy
is this?
Speaker 16 (15:36):
Well, I think from everything that we know in his
career in what he's said in podcasts and TV interviews
and beyond, this is someone who has worked in all
of the core agencies of the national security, intelligence, and
law enforcement apparatus. He has investigated the investigators. He has
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paid a dear price, as he just laid out there,
for having exposed rot corruption, politicization, and weaponization within the
deep state. He was never captured by those entities, and
then he was targeted by them himself with the DOJ.
While he was investigating the DOJ's own misconduct, to put
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it lightly with respect to all things rut Trump Russia collusion,
he was having his records surveiled, his communication surveiled under
subpoena for years. So this is someone who's worked in
the belly of the beast. He has exposed its corruption,
and he has been targeted by it himself. And who
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better to be put in the position of FBI director,
which has been the tip of the spear in politicization
and weaponization of the national security and intelligence apparatus.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
Cash Patel.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Ben, can you do me a favor in layout that
case in a little more detail for those who forget it,
because obviously inside baseball nerds like you and I understand
the story, but who did that to Cash? How did
that happen? Lay that out for people who forget.
Speaker 10 (17:18):
Well, you have to go back a little bit in
time to those not.
Speaker 16 (17:21):
So heady days of late twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, when
you had the House Intelligence Committee then led by Devin Nunez,
who himself faced the wrath of the Uni Party in
the Deep State, and he was working through top investigators,
namely including Cash Patel, to blow the lid off the
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Trump Russia collusion hoax, and Patel played an integral role
at the start in exposing the weaponization and violations of
civil liberties by the government in pursuit of Trump via
the fraud foisted on the Seat Intelligence Secret Surveillance Intelligence
FISA court, whereby the government was spying on a foreign
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policy advisor Carter Page, under the guise of the idea
that he was somehow corrupted by the Russians, tied to
the Russians, and using the surveillance on carter Page as
a window into surveilling on Trump world writ large. And
what Cash Patel exposed was that they foised it, they
being the DOJFBI and others foisted a fraud on the
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FISA Court because there was no there there in the
justification for surveilling for spying on an American citizen and
violating his liberties in Carter Page, while Devin Nunez's committee
and cash Ptel as lead investigator, was working to blow
the lid off the corruption which exposed that from the
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start Russian collusion was a total hoax and a fraud
and a way to sabotage and subvert Trump's presidency, he
faced threats from the Justice Department that he was investigating,
reportedly that they might go about subpoenaing his communications records,
according to reports, But little did he know that when
that threat was made before the so called Devin Nonez
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memo came out on the Carter page fiz the Court fraud.
At the start of exposing all of Russia gates, the
DOJ already had subpoenaed cash Ptel's communications and the communications
of a whole slew of staffers on the House Intelligence Committee,
on the Senate Judiciary Committee, on the Senate Intelligence Committee,
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and beyond, all of whom were looking into the DOJ's
activities with respect to Trump Russia collusion and cash. Patel
would spend many years essentially going through exposing all of it.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
When he later served.
Speaker 16 (19:53):
As a deputy to the Director of National Intelligence Rick Rennell.
At the time, he work to expose by declassifying many
of the Russia Gate documents to expose to bring to
light to the American people the corruption there. But so
this is someone who is the heart at the heart
of exposing maybe the greatest conspiracy in the history of
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the country to sabotage and subverted President treat him as
a trader at a Russia And as a consequence for it,
one consequence was the government that he was investigating was
spying on him at the same time. And of course
there are many leaks in which Patel was maligned in
the media, and as he noted, of course he had
to move as a consequence of personal information exposed about him.
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So he's paid a dear price for daring to stare
down the deep state. And so again I'd ask who
better to serve in a place in the FBI that
has been at the tip of the spear of politicization
and weaponization than someone like him who has confronted it
head on and has the scars to prove it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Ben, you wrote a wonderful piece for The Federalist about
the whistleblowers, about the corruption inside the FBI.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Just how bad is it?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Because I've brought up in the opening just a few
minutes ago, Cash has a mountain decline. Now he appears
to be the guy who can climb it. But this
is no easy task to clean out an evil secret
state police agency like this.
Speaker 16 (21:22):
This is an incredibly difficult task, in no small part
because the deep state is probably the hardest nut to
crack in the entirety of the administrative state, because of
the awesome powers that it has, the way it can
sabotage and subvert people and leak, and because of potentially
the corruption that's been there, and the way that bureaucracies
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are resistant to radical change to begin with, before you
get to the fact that this is the has the
awesome powers of a security state that we're talking about.
So in that piece, I talked about how there's been
this backlash to the Trump administration forcing out in the
case of the FBI, eight top officials there, many of
whom were promoted to these very high level positions running
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different branches or running significant offices like the Miami Field
office or the Washington DC Field Office, many of them
promoted under outgoing FBI Director Christopher Ray. And the backlash
has been how can you fire these very senior officials
within the FBI? And the Trump administration's justification without going
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person by person through the individuals forced out, is that
they were part of the weaponization and hyper politicization of
the FBI. And what I honed in on in this
piece is how at least three of the eight officials
there weaponized the security clearance process to sideline whistleblowers who
made disclosures, some to their supervisors, their superiors in the FBI,
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and then others to Congress and beyond. Of the weaponization
and hyper politicization in the FBI, and what these people
were subjected to was mind boggling to any fair minded Americans.
So you had people calling out the FBI abusing its
powers or targeting people on political grounds for example, for example,
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for opposing the vaccine mandates, let's say internally, and they
would try and dredge up sometimes based on their political beliefs.
A predicate to call into question whether many of these
officials FBI officials, some of them with stellar records should
have their security clearances potentially pulled. And when this happens,
when you have a probe into your security clearance as
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an FBI official, you're put on suspension. You're not allowed
to work, you're not allowed to earn income, you're not
allowed to seek out third party employment or receive gifts
to get by. So basically the process is punishment while
they're going through probing your background to figure out whether
or not you should have your security curreents provoked or not.
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This process can go on for months. Then you get
a decision revocation or not. Then you can appeal that
decision if you're revoked, and you might be waiting months
more just to get the file from your investigators telling
you why you had your security clearance revoked. That you
can then respond to within thirty days and try and
defend yourself and get a final judgment on it. Many
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people in the FBI themselves leave before you ever get
your case adjudicated, before you ever appeal it, essentially because
the process destroys you professionally, it destroys you personally.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
So I profile some of these people who had.
Speaker 16 (24:38):
Their security clearances targeted and then to boot others in
the offices who blew the whistle on them being targeted
for their political views, who themselves face the retaliation of
having their security clearances weaponized against them by having them suspended, investigated,
and beyond. So I would say that based on that alone,
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the fact that three of eight very high level officials
within the FBI were allegedly involved with weaponizing the security
clearance processes, oftentimes against conservatives or people who reviews refuse
the COVID mandate vaccine mandate, I think that alone tells
you what the Roden corruption is like. And that's before
we get to, of course, the targeting of faithful Catholics
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as if they're somehow domestic terrorists, the January sixth inquisition,
the targeting of concerned parents against the indoctrination of their
kids in racial Marxism by the FBI, and on and on.
We can talk about all these examples of a bureau that,
to your point, was basically used as state police, as
secret police, and sicked on those who dared to dissent
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from regime orthodoxy. Cash PTEL has a huge, tall task
to try and reverse all that.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
The long knives are no doubt going to be out
for him.
Speaker 16 (25:54):
But again, I'd say you trust someone who's been targeted
by a deep state like that more than you would
trust anyone else, because he hasn't been captured by these
entities yet. He's worked alongside them, he's worked with them,
and he's investigated them. It's no doubt a tall task,
but he is someone who has the intestinal fortitude, I think,
to take it on better than almost anyone trying to
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take on that kind of behemoth.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I feel better now, Thanks Ben, I owe you for that.
I feel better now. I just breathe a sigh of relief.
I feel good. Thank you, brother, come back. So all right,
Zelenski is borderline belligerent now with Trump?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
What happened there? What a moron?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
What happens? Let's talk to Cernovich about that next. Before
we get to that, let's talk about getting you some
good sleep. I'm gonna sleep better just knowing cash is
in there. But still, you never know. I'm drinking coffee
as we speak. What if I'm up too late. Well,
I'll just get some dream powder from being Wonderful dream powder.
It's hot chocolate, natural hot chocolate. He's got melatonin and
(26:59):
things like that in it. And I knew a little coffee,
cup of milk. Mix it up and I sip on
it before bed. I go to sleep. I don't wake
up in the middle of the night, and when I
do wake up in the morning, I feel so good.
I want to feel like that all the time, without
all that drug crap in your body. Shotbeam dot com
(27:19):
slash Jesse Kelly, We'll.
Speaker 17 (27:21):
Be back, think of it. A modestly successful comedian. President
Zelensky talked the United States of America into spending three
hundred and fifty billion dollars to go into a war
(27:43):
that basically couldn't be one. He refuses have elections. Is
slow in the real Ukrainian poles. I mean, how can
you be high with every city is being demolished a
dictator without elections. Zelensky better move fast or he's not
going to have a country left. Got to move bullfest
because that war is going in the wrong direction. In
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the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the war
with Russia. Something all admit that only Trump is going
to be able to do.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
When the Trump.
Speaker 17 (28:12):
Administration, we're going to be able to do it. And
Zelensky probably wants to. Maybe he wants to keep the
gravy train going. I don't know what's the problem, but
he hasn't been able. He's very upset that he wasn't invited.
He could have come if he wanted to, but that
he wasn't invited to Saudi Arabia. But he's been working
for three years, has never been even meeting so phone
calls to stop this war. It's a horrible thing.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Something went really cross between Zelensky and Trump. It's not
surprising that Trump's trying to negotiate an end of the war.
It was a campaign promise. He's digging in. He's fulfilling
the promise. But for Trump to be as vocal as
he's been against Zelensky the past couple of days, Zelensky
really crossed them bad.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
And what an idiot joining me now?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Mike Cernovich, author filmmaker, love having Mike on the show
all the time. Mike, what did Zelenski do to make
Trump mad? And how could you be that dumb when
you have no leverage to make the guy with all
the leverage angry.
Speaker 18 (29:08):
I saw some speculation that Zelenski, during his meeting with
Jade Vance had his usual raggedo show. The usual swagger,
the usual I'm better than everyone else vibe.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
I don't have that confirmed.
Speaker 18 (29:21):
I haven't been told by anybody in the in the
White House, but wouldn't surprise me Trump's tell him definitely shifted,
and it shifted aggressively.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
That wouldn't be hard.
Speaker 18 (29:30):
It wouldn't be hard to imagine Zelensky being rude to
everyone because that's how he acts.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, Mike, could you maybe lay that out for me?
Because I was actually thinking about this last night. I
couldn't sleep for a little while, and I was laying
up thinking just kind of geopolitically, Why would you be
that dumb? Why why would you act that way? You
have to know, I mean, I don't know the guy's IQ.
You have to know you can't do that to Trump,
And you dang sure know you can't be offering you know,
anti Trump talking points.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
To the television set. Anybody, my fourteen year old.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Knows you can't do that to Trump or you're gonna
make him angry and then you're gonna be in a
bad spot.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Is he dumb? What is it?
Speaker 9 (30:09):
What happens to all people?
Speaker 18 (30:11):
You and me, every human, is that what gets us
there doesn't always take us to the next level. Right,
that's a little mindset vibe or mindset plug. And if
you're Zelensky and you steamroll everybody, you treat everyone like
you're an A list celebrity, or rather you're treated like
your royalty, then why would you in your own mind
make that adjustment and understand that there's something going on
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or something different with Trump now, something I do want
to throw into the ether. This is pure speculation, to
be clear, but with Tulsa Gabbard at D and I,
with the new Trump administration in it could be that
Trump got the Ukraine files. Remember that that first impeachment
for Trump, that sham impeachment, that the Ukrainian impeachment, the
fabricating impeachment against him, was the result of a phone
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call with Celenski where Trump wanted the Barisma files. Trump
wanted the information, and now Trump has access to it.
So imagine you're Trump and you have the files. Now,
because you have access to all of this and you
read the files, how would that shift your dealings with
Zelensky and all of Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, sure, as heck would I hadn't even thought about that, Okay,
speaking of all this, Roger Wicker GOP senator came out
and said this, I see so much of this stuff.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
Do you think that Putin can be trusting in these negotiations?
Speaker 16 (31:29):
No, Putin is a war criminal and should be in
jail for the rest of his life, if not executed.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Mike, I can't believe the way people talk. Now, war's end.
It's been three years. Wars end. There's a loser. It's
not annihilation, there's a negotiated piece. It's how virtually every
war ends. Why is this one treated differently?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
What is it?
Speaker 18 (31:55):
And what of Gonzala Lira Right? We had an American
who was kidnapped by the Zelensky regime when he's trying
to leave Ukraine Portard, deny medical care or killed. The
Biden State Department was almost certainly in on it. They
didn't advocate for him to come back. So my question,
and this is a litmus fest.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
That I have.
Speaker 18 (32:13):
For example, Nile Ferguson or however you want to say
his name, is talking big about Ukraine and how Nile
he really understands history and great men global affairs. And
I always do a little experiment. I always run a
search for gonzalah right. I always run a search. Let me,
let me see if you ever mentioned an American was
held a hostage by the Zelensky regime. Oh wait, you
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never did. Oh interesting, Okay, but you said, you know,
you're a sincere actor.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
So there.
Speaker 18 (32:41):
The Republican is doing the same thing Nile and all
these old neo Kans do, all these old guilt trippers do,
and Jad.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Just totally body. I think the most important thing with
the change right now is that we're just not taking it.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Dude.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
We're not speaking the emotional black meal.
Speaker 18 (33:01):
You're not gonna say, oh, you guys want to end
the war, or rather we just want to end funding.
Oh you want to cut off funding. You guys are cowards.
You shut up, works, shut up. Or Putin is a
war criminal, Okay, great, we don't fund him, bro, That's
what I don't get. Zelenski's a war criminal for what
they did to Gonzali or an American citizen.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
Who I'll throw win is a little quirky.
Speaker 18 (33:22):
Maybe that's why a lot of people in Trump administration
haven't said much about it. He was a strange guy
and he went to Ukraine was attacking the regime like
he was an American whatever. Now, a lot of people
will be upset by that because they'll say, well, he's
an American, you should say whatever he wants. But I
think you and I are more of the mind that, Hey,
if you go to another country, you might want to
mind your piece and q's.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
But even so, he should not have been.
Speaker 18 (33:45):
Killed in a dungeon in Ukraine, and he was, and
nobody cares, and nobody brought that up.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
It wasn't an international incident.
Speaker 18 (33:51):
But if you're some druggie who brings weed into Russia,
oh God, stop the presses, Oh oh, what an atrocity.
Some druggie got arrested in Russia. We better get them out.
But if all you did was run your mouth in
Ukraine and Gonzala was taking custody when he was trying
to leave and kill, who cares?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Who cares? Right? Who cares?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I can't let you go without asking you, Cash, Betel,
he has a mountain to climb, Mike, I'm excited about it.
Are the people I trust trust Cash.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
So I'm all about it. I'm excited about it, but
it is not.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
An easy task before and cleaning out a secret police
agency's ugly work, and it's dangerous work.
Speaker 18 (34:31):
Yeah, Cash, is gonna face a lot of resistance within
the FBI because a troubling statistic I saw from Komy's
speech or mccave. I can't even keep track. They're all
such the same, right, carbon cutout regime apparatchecks, and apparently
forty percent of new hires happened under Christopher Ray rather
see mccave. They're all the same. It's funny. So as
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much as the left is always talking about there's not
enough diversity, I can't even keep track of if Ray
is any different from a Cabe, is any different from Komi? Right,
they really are the same. Even if you follow as
closely as we do, you go no, actually, actually that
was Ray. So every agent who joined the FBI in
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the last administration, the last regime is a STASSI member
or an aspiring SPASI member. I would like to see
mass firings, mass terminations of everybody who joined because unworks.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
You're getting in at right.
Speaker 18 (35:27):
It's one thing if you've been in there for fifteen years,
easy for us to say, hey, guys, give up your pension.
We're so brave, and you're so pathetic, you know, look
at us, how brave we are. Just give up your
pension up, uproot your life because you don't like the
Jay six Brons whatever.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
I'm a little bit more nuanced on that. It's easy
to talk.
Speaker 18 (35:44):
Big, right, But the people who wanted in on it,
that's the Stasi. Those people all have to go. Everybody
fire them all.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Man, Mike, come back soon, brother, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
Always pleasure.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Oh Cuomo, you know when he got the hook.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
There was a guy he does a TV show on
the first it's called I'm Right. There was a guy
who told you Andrew Cuomo will be back. I think
Andrew Cuomo is coming back. Let's talk to Ennez Stepmin
about that and other things in a moment before we
talked to Inez, that same guy also told you about
Pure Talk. He told you to switch your cell phone
service because Verizon hates your guts.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
AT and T hate your guts.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
All this cultural filth we've seen, we have funded it
because the corporate world has turned against us. We fund
the corporate world. They take our money and use it
against this. It's awful. It's awful. How much of the
destruction of our country we've paid for myself included. You
don't have to do that with your cell phone. Pure Talk.
They'll give you the same service, same five G network.
(36:51):
You'll pay less, brand new phones, keep your phone, keep
your number, brand new. Whatever you want, Pure Talk has it,
and they hire Americans.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I love that. Today's the day to.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Switch pure Talk dot com slash JESSETV.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Well, you know, the last thing I would ever do
is brag on my cell or draw attention to, you know,
things that I've been right about. But remember when Andrew
Cuomo got the hook for having you know, the magic
fingers as the governor and they threw him out of office.
And I told you he still has eighteen million dollars
in a campaign war chest, and he's a political animal,
(37:36):
and he's most definitely coming back.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Remember when I told you that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, News twelve New York's reporting the man is set
to make a run for mayor Ah the old Oracle
nailed it again. Joining me now to congratulate me and
talk about this is my friend in As Stepman, senior
policy analyst from the Independent Women's Forum, and As do
you have anything you'd like to say to me right now?
Speaker 10 (37:57):
Oh?
Speaker 19 (37:58):
What you mean commenting on your genius and foresight? I mean,
I feel like you've left nothing left to say.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Thanks, and that's all. That's all I needed to hear
from you. No, all right, So how does this work?
Obviously he's a political animal from a political family.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
He's now going to be mayor. That's a bit of
a downgrade.
Speaker 20 (38:19):
I mean it kind of it isn't.
Speaker 19 (38:21):
It isn't in New York, right, don't forget the Rudy
Giuliani Wren for.
Speaker 20 (38:24):
President coming out.
Speaker 19 (38:25):
I mean, being the mayor of a city of nine
million people is not like, you know, being the mayor,
like a small town mayor. It's it's more people than
I think some states probably, I don't know the exact
number of people, for example, in Wyoming, but you know,
governing New York City is quite quite a big job.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So yeah, all right, it is for those of us
who are not New Yorkers, which you are, how does
this work? What do the politics look like in New York?
Because they don't all get along. We look at a
Democrat state. We see Letitia James, we see Kathy Kolkel,
we see Eric Adams, we see all these the Alvin Braggs,
and we think, while they're all on the same team,
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but New York is a famously competitive state where Democrats
will slip a knife between the ribs of the next
Democrat in line in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
So who's friends with who?
Speaker 19 (39:15):
I'm not sure if anyone knows at this point, but
the tension between the governor and the mayor of New
York City is not a new phenomenon. I do want
to point out that both of these people, so Cuomo
almost certainly was taken out by an interior Democrat hit
to avoid, in part, questions about the decisions he made
about nursing homes during COVID Right, So instead there was
(39:37):
some sort of internal Democrat hit to take him out
for being a little too handsy and making some comments
in the office. I guess me too is now just
the weapon d jour among Democrats to take out each
other behind the scenes. But just like what happened with
Eric Adams, it really seems like a case of one
was like a selective me too wing and the other
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one selective prosecution. Because I have a hard time imagining
that bil de Blasio wasn't accepting, you know, first first
class upgrades on his flight and the nice hotel rooms. Famously,
he was very cozy with developers in New York. So
like this, this level of corruption is sort of endemic,
not just to New York but unfortunately to many of
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America's large blue cities. So you know, it does smack
a little bit of a selective prosecution. Then the fact
that Eric Adams was taken out, which for really ticky
tac kind of stuff. This wasn't like Grand Tammany Hall
level corruption. This was you know, upgrades and hotel rooms
for pushing the permitting process a little faster.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, and honestly, for a New York politician, I don't
even think that rises to the level of crimes New Jersey.
There's stuff in goal bars underneath the bed. Get with
the program, New York. Okay, let's switch gears a little
bit here because it's kind of national. How's Donald Trump
able to kill congestion pricing in New York?
Speaker 3 (40:56):
What happened here?
Speaker 20 (40:58):
Okay, So there's two things involved here.
Speaker 19 (41:00):
One is the fact that this congestion pricing is affecting
travel coming from New Jersey into New York.
Speaker 20 (41:05):
That you know, we think.
Speaker 19 (41:06):
About the Tristate area as one blob, but it is
in fact three separate states, and so there's interstate travel
involved here. The other aspect is that apparently there there's
a law on the books from nineteen sixteen that allows
the federal government to veto a toll on any road
that was built in part with federal funds, which is
virtually all roads, major highways, and so on. I'm actually
(41:27):
not one hundred percent sure about the constitutionality of that
law here. I would look at the case South Dakota
against the United States that this is when the federal
government tried to institute the drinking age at twenty one
in all states.
Speaker 20 (41:41):
In South Dakota with a holdout.
Speaker 19 (41:42):
And said, no, we're going to serve you know, eighteen
year olds beer in our bar and that's our decision.
And the federal government came in and said, no, you
have to because you know, the number of drunk drivers
on the road is correlated.
Speaker 20 (41:54):
With you know, where the drinking age is.
Speaker 19 (41:56):
And therefore we, the federal government have the right to
tell South Dakota what it's drinking age be if they
want federal highway funds. This kind of is this is
a closer nexus than that The Supreme Court upheld that,
But a lot of conservatives, myself included, think that was
probably a mistake.
Speaker 20 (42:11):
This is a closer nexcess though than that.
Speaker 19 (42:13):
Right now, you're talking about federally in part federally funded roads,
and a toll being laid on top of the road
is directly authorized by Congress, the power for the federal
government to say, Nope, we don't want that toll, So,
you know, at least on federal law, I think the
Trump administration is on pretty solid ground here.
Speaker 20 (42:31):
Actually, even though it's surprising, I have the same surprise reaction.
Speaker 19 (42:34):
I was like, how can the federal government tell university
where to have its toll?
Speaker 20 (42:38):
Like what stupid tolls you can put on?
Speaker 19 (42:40):
But apparently there is a congressionally authorized power to do this.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Okay, And as before I let you go real quick,
I have to ask you about the piece she wrote
about Trump in universities.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
What can he do to change the rotten system we have?
Speaker 19 (42:57):
There's so much he can do, and I think his
administration has already working on. There really are two major
hammers here. One is that universities are completely dependent on
federal money. We're just talking about federal highway funds, right,
Universities much more direct recipients of the federal teath. First
of all, there's just there's billions of grants. They make
up you know, anywhere from about fifty percent of the
(43:18):
operating budget of a lot of Ivy League universities that's
in grants for research. Now, some of that might be
you know, good research that we want money going to
search on cancer.
Speaker 20 (43:27):
A lot of it, as we're seeing with the.
Speaker 19 (43:29):
DOGE spotlight on all of these government agencies, is for
DEI programs, is for actively pernicious you know, government bs
that really shouldn't be funded by the American taxpayer. So
that's one lever against them as all these grants which
DOGE is going through as we speak.
Speaker 20 (43:46):
The second lever.
Speaker 19 (43:47):
Is just the student loan programs, I mean, the actual
lifeblood of universities. And the reason they've been able to
raise tuition year after year well above inflation and put
such a squeeze on so many middle class families is
because the federal government underwrites the student loan program. Like
if you think about it, like if you went to
a bank and you said, I want to attend a
two thousand thranked you know, small university and I want
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to study queer studies, okay, and I want a loan
for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You know, wells
Fargo is going to look at that application and say,
how do you plan to pay back one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars? Whereas the federal government just gives a
blank check, and that allows universities to keep raising the price, right,
because there's just this blank loan system that keeps up
with the price of tuition.
Speaker 20 (44:29):
So in both those cases, universities are vulnerable.
Speaker 19 (44:33):
They've been violating the Civil Rights Acts, Title six, seven,
and nine over and over again, blatantly, repeatedly and publicly.
They have just made themselves incredibly vulnerable. And from what
I hear, Congress and the Trump administration are looking at
an attack on endowments. So university is in a world
of hurt, potentially in the next year.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
So yes, yes, burn it all down, Trump, Yes, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So excited is thank you? Go back? All right?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
We have light in the mood. Next, it is time
to lighten the mood. And this is a political light
in the mood. You know, there's an old saying never
to interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. The
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Democrat Party has turned into the party of radicalized freaks
that are kind of not pleasant to be around, and
so you'd probably if you have those people in.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Your party, want them to tone it down. Jasmine Crockett,
the loudmouth.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Moron congresswoman from from the Dallas area here in Texas.
She is apparently the new media darling. She's on TV
every day. Smile. This woman is writing gop ads for
the midterms every single day.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Do you right now?
Speaker 21 (45:48):
Has a fifty three percent approval rating. It's higher than
it's ever been. Seventy percent believe that he's fulfilling his promises,
and forty five percent believe Democrats should be more moderate.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Do you?
Speaker 21 (45:58):
What do you take away? I think there's a lot
to make of those numbers. What's your takeaway from that?
Speaker 22 (46:02):
My takeaway is, just like the election, we've got to
do better at education. People don't understand, but you will
understand when those hospitals in rural America start closing down
even more. You will understand when you don't have your
Social Security. You will understand when your Medicaid, your Medicare
goes away. You will understand as planes continue to fall
out of the sky. Soon you will understand why it's
(46:24):
important to maybe have somebody that isn't loud and ridiculous,
and maybe Sleepy Joe is what we wanted because we
could at least sleep at night.
Speaker 20 (46:33):
Yeah, that's amen.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I encourage Democrats to continue right along that road.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
You go, girl, I see them all.
Glory, hallelujah. We have a new FBI director. We'll talk
about that tonight. Benjamin Winegarden joins us. Who is Cash Patel?
What's going on with this spat? Was Selenski and Trump
all that coming up on?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm right, I'd shut down the FBI Hoover building on
day one and reopening to the next day as a
museum of.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
The deep State.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Oh my gosh, I'm so excited right now, Cash Patel,
it's official, is the new head of the FBI. Now,
before we get into the FBI and before we have
our wonderful show tonight about all kinds of things FBI, Ukraine,
all kinds of things. I want you to take a
moment and reach back. If your arms are long enough
to pat yourself on the back. You're probably sitting there thinking, well,
(00:57):
what did I do? I didn't do anything. Listen to me.
When Donald Trump got elected the GOP Senate talking about
the Senate here, you know that's where freedom goes to die.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The GOP Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
They thought they had a little moment where they thought
they were going to try to stop Trump from draining
the swamp. Because rest assured, as we've talked about many
many times before. It's not just the communists who want
the swamp.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
To stay just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Establishment gopeers are just as evil and just as corrupt.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
They know they have to lie during election season.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But Mitch McConnell hates you twice as much as Chuck
Schumer has ever hated you. These people don't want reform,
they don't want changes, They certainly don't want the books
opened up. So anyway Trump gets elected and he has. Honestly,
I was shocked. I was shocked at how amazing the
most of the picks were some I didn't like, but most,
for the most part, they were reformers.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
How long have we talked about that on the show?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Reformers people who are not going to look outward, people
who are going to take over a government program, a
bureaucracy of some.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Kind and try to reform it, drain the swamp.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Trump was just rolling out reformer after reformer and hag
Seth and Tulci and rr FK and all these things,
and the GOP Senate for about five minutes they thought
to themselves, No, we'll put a stop to that. Yeah, yeah,
Trump won, and we know we have to play nice
with Trump, but no, no, we're not just gonna let
these reformers come in and change things. No, no, no,
(02:32):
we're not gonna allow any change. And you remember they did.
The first one was Matt Gates. Remember that Matt Gates
was like the first one.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Trump announced, Hey, my ag.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Is Matt Gates, and immediately the swamp No, absolutely not stop,
he can't.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
He won't have the votes. No, and they won. That
was the thing they won.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Matt Gates lasted a couple of days, made the rounds
on the hill and didn't look like he was gonna
have the votes.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Backed out, and.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Right about that point in time, the GOP Senate was
feeling pretty good. The establishment types nice, yeah, they got Trump,
but we're not going to allow any actual reforms. And
then came Pete Hegseth and they decided to try it again.
Of course, now they were being careful about the whole thing.
But it was Jony Ernst. Don't think I've forgotten about you,
Jony Ernst. It was the Jony Ernst types. It was
(03:24):
a Lindsay Graham types. And people talk in Washington, d C.
I heard the same things you heard. They were working
behind the scenes to try to stop Pete hegseth he
wants to come in and reform things at the Pentagon
an audit.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
We we can't have that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Hey, I got a lot of money on the line.
And they started to make statements, well, I'm very concerned
about these allegations. Well I'm just not quite sure yet.
They started to pretend as if they were really considering things,
but what they wanted was to stop it. And so
as soon as they started voicing their concern, they started
to feel heat from you. You are as responsible for
(04:04):
what happened today with cash Betel as anything else out there.
Right now, this is your doing. You put the pressure
on these scumbags. Joni Ernst I heard this. I know
this for a fact. Her office phone in email system
was practically melting with your hatred of you. Better vote
(04:24):
for Pete Heg says, who do you think you are?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And she caught so.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Much heat that we finally had senators going on stage.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I remember Lisa Murkowski going on.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Stage say, and now they're even threatening Jony Ernst with
a primary This is crazy. Well Jony Ernz learned a
valuable lesson, and so did the rest of the GOP.
Notice how all the rest of them sailed right through.
Oh yeah, we have the little Mitch McConnell votes, but
they're all then congratulations too, are right on to cash battel.
(04:56):
We have somebody who's going to look inward.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
We will go out and find the conspiratories, not just
in government, but in the media. Yes, we're going to
come after the people in the media who lied about
American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections. We're
going to come after you. Whether it's criminal or civilly,
we'll figure that out. But yeah, we're putting you all
on noticing.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's time to go after bad guys, bad guys inside
of the system. No more of this crusading looking for
this so that it's time to actually drain the swamp.
And inside the Hoover building, Well, that's where the sword
and Shield is, isn't it the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
(05:39):
mostly courtesy of Barack Obama. I realize it's always had
problems where Barack Obama got in there, cleaned out all
the real crime fighters, replaced them all with card carrying
communists who would do communist things. That is, wage war
on you, wage war on the political opponents.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Of Democrats, and they've done.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
That, and they've been doing it for years, and they've
been loving it, and they have so much power. I've
said several times the FBI, if it is not brought
to heel, If Cash Betel is not successful in bringing
the FBI to heal, I mean this.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I believe the FBI will end the United States of America,
as you know it. I do because the communists cannot
control themselves, so they'll continue to attack us and attack
us and attack us, and that will eventually lead to
Red States forming up against the FBI. Now you have
a square off with the federal government against the states.
You see where this is going. If the FBI is
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not brought to heal, it will end America.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It will. That is Cash's duty and he knows it.
And the good.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
News is the bad guys inside the FBI, they're afraid.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
It is a place in utter disarray right now.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
People are worried about how am I going to pay
the bills?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
How am I going to support my family if I lose.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
You know, if you're anywhere in the middle of that career,
not close to retirement, if you get fired, you're done.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
That's the end of your reputation, your ability to get
a new job.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
You lose your pay, you lose your chance at a pension,
you lose your health insurance.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
This is a moment of terror for these people.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
It is absolutely disgraceful that they are being put through
this in the middle of some political gamesmanship or active retribution.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
They don't deserve to be treated this way. It's unlawful
and it's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Moment of terror. Huh.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's interesting. If you're in the FBI, why would
you be afraid?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I bet, I know, I bet, I know, I bet.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The answer is, you're a disgusting communist apparachet, and you
have taken your role, your critical role at the FBI,
and you chose to instead of enforcing the law, instead
of going after criminals, you instead chose to go after
the political opponents of Democrats while protecting Democrats like you,
(08:04):
like Joe Biden. That's how we ended up with an
FBI director so mentally twisted that he could, with a
straight face announce that the biggest threat in this country
is white supremacy.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
When you've never even met a white supremacist.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
A huge chunk of those domestic terrorst and investigations involve
racially motivated, violent extremist motivated terrorist attacks, and the majority
of those of the racially motivated violent extremist attacks are
fueled by some kind of white supremacy.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That was of course a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Why did they tell that lie, Well, they spent years
calling you a white supremacist nazi, white supremacist nazi.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Then you get the FBI to direct.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
All of its efforts against white supremacy, and look at that,
we get to arrest Republicans at will.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's why everyone knew that was the game. And you
have to feel.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Happy today for guys like Steve Friend, Marcus at Darreed O'Boyle,
the brave whistleblowers who didn't remain silent when the FBI
turned into the cheka, the guys who stepped up and
spoke up bravely.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
It appears that I was retaliated against because I forded
information in my superiors and others that questioned the official
narrative of the events of January sixth.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
As a result, I.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
Was accused of promoting conspiratorial views and unreliable information. Because
I did this, the FBI questioned my allegiance to the
United States.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
Mister friend, you've ever been to a school board meeting?
Speaker 10 (09:34):
Yes, FBI ever sent you to the parking lot of a.
Speaker 9 (09:37):
School board meeting, Yes they have. And in the parking
lot of a school board meeting where the FBI.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Sent you, you were taking down information regarding people's license plates.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
That's correct, But the FBI will crush you.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
This government will crush you and your family if you
try to expose the truth about things that they are
doing that are wrong, and we are all examples of that.
I hope Cash Mattel chooses to make those gentlemen hole.
They certainly deserve it. They've sacrificed so much for this country,
(10:09):
and let's talk about that. Cash Battel. I'm a fan,
Don't don't get wrong, I'm a fan. I'm thrilled about this.
I'm doing backflips. But he has a mountain to climb.
An evil secret state police agency is not just going
to lay down for the new director. They've been working
(10:29):
tirelessly since Donald Trump won that election to hide.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Their evil deeds.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
God only knows how many emails have been deleted, phone
records evident. God only knows the horrible things they've been
doing as they prepare to have someone come in and
shed light on them. They know Cash Battel, he's going
to do things like, Hey, who decided to designate school
board moms as terrorists?
Speaker 11 (10:56):
Parents who have the courage to ensure their children are
taught what they feel is right, and those who have
the courage of their convictions to go houses of worship
in my book, will never be domestic terrorists.
Speaker 12 (11:10):
Will you find out who was involved in this policy
within the FBI, who agreed with it, who implemented it,
who encourage it? Will you find out that, mister Bettel,
Will you do an internal investigation? And will you make
clear that those who supported this policy are appropriately disciplined?
And will you make clear that the FBI will never
do something like this again?
Speaker 11 (11:31):
If confirmed and pursued into your congressional request, Absolutely, Senator.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
A mountain to Kline. Now, how are we going to
know if he's climbing that mountain? What indication are we
going to have? I'm not inside the Hoover building, neither
are you. So what are we going to look for? Well,
guys have to be arrested. FBI agents are going to
have to go to prison. If Cash Mattel finishes his
four years as FBI director without any current FBI agents
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go into prison.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Cash Betel was a failure.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I can't lay it out any more clearly than that, Well, what.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Guys, what guys? I don't know. If let's start with
Elvis Chan.
Speaker 13 (12:10):
I was very involved our field office FBI San Francisco,
was very involved in helping to protect the US elections
in twenty twenty. And I think we can all agree,
or I think many of us can agree that it
was a very safe election.
Speaker 14 (12:25):
We talked with all of these entities I mentioned regularly,
at least on a monthly basis, and right before the election,
probably on a weekly basis.
Speaker 9 (12:34):
Right, if they were.
Speaker 14 (12:35):
Seeing anything unusual, if we were seeing anything unusual, sharing
intelligence with technology companies, with social media companies so that
they could protect their own platforms, Right.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, using your position as special agent in the FBI
to ensure Facebook Sensor's a very truthful story about Hunter Biden.
So Joe Biden can win an election in Donald Trump
doesn't get another four years, that's a prison sentence. Cash
Bettel has a mountain to climb. I have no doubt
he is the man for the job. We shall see
(13:10):
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Speaker 15 (14:19):
Having been the victim of government overreach and a weaponized
system of justice and law enforcement. I know what it
feels like to have the full weight of the United
States government barreling down on you. And as the Biden
Inspector General determined, those activities by the FBI and DJ
were wholly improper and not predicated upon law in facts,
(14:41):
I will ensure, if confirmed, that no American is subjected
to that kind of torment, to that kind of cost,
financially and personally, And most importantly, I will make sure
that no American is subjected to death threats like I was,
and subjected to moving their residence is like I was
because of government overreach, because of leaks of information about
(15:04):
my personal status. If confirmed as FBI Director, mister Chairman,
you have my commitment that no one in this country
will feel that pain.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Gosh, I'm excited because he seems angry, and I want
a bunch of FBI people going to prison joining me now.
Benjamin Winegarden, Editor at Large for real clear investigations.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Okay, Ben, what can we expect?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I obviously am as familiar with Cash as anyone who
does what we do, but I've never met the man.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We're not friends. We're not friends. What kind of guy
is this?
Speaker 16 (15:36):
Well, I think from everything that we know in his
career in what he's said in podcasts and TV interviews
and beyond, this is someone who has worked in all
of the core agencies of the national security, intelligence, and
law enforcement apparatus. He has investigated the investigators. He has
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paid a dear price, as he just laid out there,
for having exposed rot corruption, politicization, and weaponization within the
deep state. He was never captured by those entities, and
then he was targeted by them himself with the DOJ.
While he was investigating the DOJ's own misconduct, to put
(16:24):
it lightly with respect to all things rut Trump Russia collusion,
he was having his records surveiled, his communication surveiled under
subpoena for years. So this is someone who's worked in
the belly of the beast. He has exposed its corruption,
and he has been targeted by it himself. And who
(16:46):
better to be put in the position of FBI director,
which has been the tip of the spear in politicization
and weaponization of the national security and intelligence apparatus.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
Cash Patel.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Ben, can you do me a favor in layout that
case in a little more detail for those who forget it,
because obviously inside baseball nerds like you and I understand
the story, but who did that to Cash? How did
that happen? Lay that out for people who forget.
Speaker 10 (17:18):
Well, you have to go back a little bit in
time to those not.
Speaker 16 (17:21):
So heady days of late twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, when
you had the House Intelligence Committee then led by Devin Nunez,
who himself faced the wrath of the Uni Party in
the Deep State, and he was working through top investigators,
namely including Cash Patel, to blow the lid off the
(17:43):
Trump Russia collusion hoax, and Patel played an integral role
at the start in exposing the weaponization and violations of
civil liberties by the government in pursuit of Trump via
the fraud foisted on the Seat Intelligence Secret Surveillance Intelligence
FISA court, whereby the government was spying on a foreign
(18:08):
policy advisor Carter Page, under the guise of the idea
that he was somehow corrupted by the Russians, tied to
the Russians, and using the surveillance on carter Page as
a window into surveilling on Trump world writ large. And
what Cash Patel exposed was that they foised it, they
being the DOJFBI and others foisted a fraud on the
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FISA Court because there was no there there in the
justification for surveilling for spying on an American citizen and
violating his liberties in Carter Page, while Devin Nunez's committee
and cash Ptel as lead investigator, was working to blow
the lid off the corruption which exposed that from the
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start Russian collusion was a total hoax and a fraud
and a way to sabotage and subvert Trump's presidency, he
faced threats from the Justice Department that he was investigating,
reportedly that they might go about subpoenaing his communications records,
according to reports, But little did he know that when
that threat was made before the so called Devin Nonez
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memo came out on the Carter page fiz the Court fraud.
At the start of exposing all of Russia gates, the
DOJ already had subpoenaed cash Ptel's communications and the communications
of a whole slew of staffers on the House Intelligence Committee,
on the Senate Judiciary Committee, on the Senate Intelligence Committee,
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and beyond, all of whom were looking into the DOJ's
activities with respect to Trump Russia collusion and cash. Patel
would spend many years essentially going through exposing all of it.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
When he later served.
Speaker 16 (19:53):
As a deputy to the Director of National Intelligence Rick Rennell.
At the time, he work to expose by declassifying many
of the Russia Gate documents to expose to bring to
light to the American people the corruption there. But so
this is someone who is the heart at the heart
of exposing maybe the greatest conspiracy in the history of
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the country to sabotage and subverted President treat him as
a trader at a Russia And as a consequence for it,
one consequence was the government that he was investigating was
spying on him at the same time. And of course
there are many leaks in which Patel was maligned in
the media, and as he noted, of course he had
to move as a consequence of personal information exposed about him.
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So he's paid a dear price for daring to stare
down the deep state. And so again I'd ask who
better to serve in a place in the FBI that
has been at the tip of the spear of politicization
and weaponization than someone like him who has confronted it
head on and has the scars to prove it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Ben, you wrote a wonderful piece for The Federalist about
the whistleblowers, about the corruption inside the FBI.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Just how bad is it?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Because I've brought up in the opening just a few
minutes ago, Cash has a mountain decline. Now he appears
to be the guy who can climb it. But this
is no easy task to clean out an evil secret
state police agency like this.
Speaker 16 (21:22):
This is an incredibly difficult task, in no small part
because the deep state is probably the hardest nut to
crack in the entirety of the administrative state, because of
the awesome powers that it has, the way it can
sabotage and subvert people and leak, and because of potentially
the corruption that's been there, and the way that bureaucracies
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are resistant to radical change to begin with, before you
get to the fact that this is the has the
awesome powers of a security state that we're talking about.
So in that piece, I talked about how there's been
this backlash to the Trump administration forcing out in the
case of the FBI, eight top officials there, many of
whom were promoted to these very high level positions running
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different branches or running significant offices like the Miami Field
office or the Washington DC Field Office, many of them
promoted under outgoing FBI Director Christopher Ray. And the backlash
has been how can you fire these very senior officials
within the FBI? And the Trump administration's justification without going
(22:28):
person by person through the individuals forced out, is that
they were part of the weaponization and hyper politicization of
the FBI. And what I honed in on in this
piece is how at least three of the eight officials
there weaponized the security clearance process to sideline whistleblowers who
made disclosures, some to their supervisors, their superiors in the FBI,
(22:52):
and then others to Congress and beyond. Of the weaponization
and hyper politicization in the FBI, and what these people
were subjected to was mind boggling to any fair minded Americans.
So you had people calling out the FBI abusing its
powers or targeting people on political grounds for example, for example,
(23:15):
for opposing the vaccine mandates, let's say internally, and they
would try and dredge up sometimes based on their political beliefs.
A predicate to call into question whether many of these
officials FBI officials, some of them with stellar records should
have their security clearances potentially pulled. And when this happens,
when you have a probe into your security clearance as
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an FBI official, you're put on suspension. You're not allowed
to work, you're not allowed to earn income, you're not
allowed to seek out third party employment or receive gifts
to get by. So basically the process is punishment while
they're going through probing your background to figure out whether
or not you should have your security curreents provoked or not.
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This process can go on for months. Then you get
a decision revocation or not. Then you can appeal that
decision if you're revoked, and you might be waiting months
more just to get the file from your investigators telling
you why you had your security clearance revoked. That you
can then respond to within thirty days and try and
defend yourself and get a final judgment on it. Many
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people in the FBI themselves leave before you ever get
your case adjudicated, before you ever appeal it, essentially because
the process destroys you professionally, it destroys you personally.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
So I profile some of these people who had.
Speaker 16 (24:38):
Their security clearances targeted and then to boot others in
the offices who blew the whistle on them being targeted
for their political views, who themselves face the retaliation of
having their security clearances weaponized against them by having them suspended, investigated,
and beyond. So I would say that based on that alone,
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the fact that three of eight very high level officials
within the FBI were allegedly involved with weaponizing the security
clearance processes, oftentimes against conservatives or people who reviews refuse
the COVID mandate vaccine mandate, I think that alone tells
you what the Roden corruption is like. And that's before
we get to, of course, the targeting of faithful Catholics
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as if they're somehow domestic terrorists, the January sixth inquisition,
the targeting of concerned parents against the indoctrination of their
kids in racial Marxism by the FBI, and on and on.
We can talk about all these examples of a bureau that,
to your point, was basically used as state police, as
secret police, and sicked on those who dared to dissent
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from regime orthodoxy. Cash PTEL has a huge, tall task
to try and reverse all that.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
The long knives are no doubt going to be out
for him.
Speaker 16 (25:54):
But again, I'd say you trust someone who's been targeted
by a deep state like that more than you would
trust anyone else, because he hasn't been captured by these
entities yet. He's worked alongside them, he's worked with them,
and he's investigated them. It's no doubt a tall task,
but he is someone who has the intestinal fortitude, I think,
to take it on better than almost anyone trying to
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take on that kind of behemoth.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I feel better now, Thanks Ben, I owe you for that.
I feel better now. I just breathe a sigh of relief.
I feel good. Thank you, brother, come back. So all right,
Zelenski is borderline belligerent now with Trump?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
What happened there? What a moron?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
What happens? Let's talk to Cernovich about that next. Before
we get to that, let's talk about getting you some
good sleep. I'm gonna sleep better just knowing cash is
in there. But still, you never know. I'm drinking coffee
as we speak. What if I'm up too late. Well,
I'll just get some dream powder from being Wonderful dream powder.
It's hot chocolate, natural hot chocolate. He's got melatonin and
(26:59):
things like that in it. And I knew a little coffee,
cup of milk. Mix it up and I sip on
it before bed. I go to sleep. I don't wake
up in the middle of the night, and when I
do wake up in the morning, I feel so good.
I want to feel like that all the time, without
all that drug crap in your body. Shotbeam dot com
(27:19):
slash Jesse Kelly, We'll.
Speaker 17 (27:21):
Be back, think of it. A modestly successful comedian. President
Zelensky talked the United States of America into spending three
hundred and fifty billion dollars to go into a war
(27:43):
that basically couldn't be one. He refuses have elections. Is
slow in the real Ukrainian poles. I mean, how can
you be high with every city is being demolished a
dictator without elections. Zelensky better move fast or he's not
going to have a country left. Got to move bullfest
because that war is going in the wrong direction. In
(28:03):
the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the war
with Russia. Something all admit that only Trump is going
to be able to do.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
When the Trump.
Speaker 17 (28:12):
Administration, we're going to be able to do it. And
Zelensky probably wants to. Maybe he wants to keep the
gravy train going. I don't know what's the problem, but
he hasn't been able. He's very upset that he wasn't invited.
He could have come if he wanted to, but that
he wasn't invited to Saudi Arabia. But he's been working
for three years, has never been even meeting so phone
calls to stop this war. It's a horrible thing.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Something went really cross between Zelensky and Trump. It's not
surprising that Trump's trying to negotiate an end of the war.
It was a campaign promise. He's digging in. He's fulfilling
the promise. But for Trump to be as vocal as
he's been against Zelensky the past couple of days, Zelensky
really crossed them bad.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
And what an idiot joining me now?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Mike Cernovich, author filmmaker, love having Mike on the show
all the time. Mike, what did Zelenski do to make
Trump mad? And how could you be that dumb when
you have no leverage to make the guy with all
the leverage angry.
Speaker 18 (29:08):
I saw some speculation that Zelenski, during his meeting with
Jade Vance had his usual raggedo show. The usual swagger,
the usual I'm better than everyone else vibe.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
I don't have that confirmed.
Speaker 18 (29:21):
I haven't been told by anybody in the in the
White House, but wouldn't surprise me Trump's tell him definitely shifted,
and it shifted aggressively.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
That wouldn't be hard.
Speaker 18 (29:30):
It wouldn't be hard to imagine Zelensky being rude to
everyone because that's how he acts.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, Mike, could you maybe lay that out for me?
Because I was actually thinking about this last night. I
couldn't sleep for a little while, and I was laying
up thinking just kind of geopolitically, Why would you be
that dumb? Why why would you act that way? You
have to know, I mean, I don't know the guy's IQ.
You have to know you can't do that to Trump,
And you dang sure know you can't be offering you know,
anti Trump talking points.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
To the television set. Anybody, my fourteen year old.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Knows you can't do that to Trump or you're gonna
make him angry and then you're gonna be in a
bad spot.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Is he dumb? What is it?
Speaker 9 (30:09):
What happens to all people?
Speaker 18 (30:11):
You and me, every human, is that what gets us
there doesn't always take us to the next level. Right,
that's a little mindset vibe or mindset plug. And if
you're Zelensky and you steamroll everybody, you treat everyone like
you're an A list celebrity, or rather you're treated like
your royalty, then why would you in your own mind
make that adjustment and understand that there's something going on
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or something different with Trump now, something I do want
to throw into the ether. This is pure speculation, to
be clear, but with Tulsa Gabbard at D and I,
with the new Trump administration in it could be that
Trump got the Ukraine files. Remember that that first impeachment
for Trump, that sham impeachment, that the Ukrainian impeachment, the
fabricating impeachment against him, was the result of a phone
(30:56):
call with Celenski where Trump wanted the Barisma files. Trump
wanted the information, and now Trump has access to it.
So imagine you're Trump and you have the files. Now,
because you have access to all of this and you
read the files, how would that shift your dealings with
Zelensky and all of Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, sure, as heck would I hadn't even thought about that, Okay,
speaking of all this, Roger Wicker GOP senator came out
and said this, I see so much of this stuff.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
Do you think that Putin can be trusting in these negotiations?
Speaker 16 (31:29):
No, Putin is a war criminal and should be in
jail for the rest of his life, if not executed.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Mike, I can't believe the way people talk. Now, war's end.
It's been three years. Wars end. There's a loser. It's
not annihilation, there's a negotiated piece. It's how virtually every
war ends. Why is this one treated differently?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
What is it?
Speaker 18 (31:55):
And what of Gonzala Lira Right? We had an American
who was kidnapped by the Zelensky regime when he's trying
to leave Ukraine Portard, deny medical care or killed. The
Biden State Department was almost certainly in on it. They
didn't advocate for him to come back. So my question,
and this is a litmus fest.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
That I have.
Speaker 18 (32:13):
For example, Nile Ferguson or however you want to say
his name, is talking big about Ukraine and how Nile
he really understands history and great men global affairs. And
I always do a little experiment. I always run a
search for gonzalah right. I always run a search. Let me,
let me see if you ever mentioned an American was
held a hostage by the Zelensky regime. Oh wait, you
(32:35):
never did. Oh interesting, Okay, but you said, you know,
you're a sincere actor.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
So there.
Speaker 18 (32:41):
The Republican is doing the same thing Nile and all
these old neo Kans do, all these old guilt trippers do,
and Jad.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Just totally body. I think the most important thing with
the change right now is that we're just not taking it.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Dude.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
We're not speaking the emotional black meal.
Speaker 18 (33:01):
You're not gonna say, oh, you guys want to end
the war, or rather we just want to end funding.
Oh you want to cut off funding. You guys are cowards.
You shut up, works, shut up. Or Putin is a
war criminal, Okay, great, we don't fund him, bro, That's
what I don't get. Zelenski's a war criminal for what
they did to Gonzali or an American citizen.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
Who I'll throw win is a little quirky.
Speaker 18 (33:22):
Maybe that's why a lot of people in Trump administration
haven't said much about it. He was a strange guy
and he went to Ukraine was attacking the regime like
he was an American whatever. Now, a lot of people
will be upset by that because they'll say, well, he's
an American, you should say whatever he wants. But I
think you and I are more of the mind that, Hey,
if you go to another country, you might want to
mind your piece and q's.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
But even so, he should not have been.
Speaker 18 (33:45):
Killed in a dungeon in Ukraine, and he was, and
nobody cares, and nobody brought that up.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
It wasn't an international incident.
Speaker 18 (33:51):
But if you're some druggie who brings weed into Russia,
oh God, stop the presses, Oh oh, what an atrocity.
Some druggie got arrested in Russia. We better get them out.
But if all you did was run your mouth in
Ukraine and Gonzala was taking custody when he was trying
to leave and kill, who cares?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Who cares? Right? Who cares?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I can't let you go without asking you, Cash, Betel,
he has a mountain to climb, Mike, I'm excited about it.
Are the people I trust trust Cash.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
So I'm all about it. I'm excited about it, but
it is not.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
An easy task before and cleaning out a secret police
agency's ugly work, and it's dangerous work.
Speaker 18 (34:31):
Yeah, Cash, is gonna face a lot of resistance within
the FBI because a troubling statistic I saw from Komy's
speech or mccave. I can't even keep track. They're all
such the same, right, carbon cutout regime apparatchecks, and apparently
forty percent of new hires happened under Christopher Ray rather
see mccave. They're all the same. It's funny. So as
(34:53):
much as the left is always talking about there's not
enough diversity, I can't even keep track of if Ray
is any different from a Cabe, is any different from Komi? Right,
they really are the same. Even if you follow as
closely as we do, you go no, actually, actually that
was Ray. So every agent who joined the FBI in
(35:15):
the last administration, the last regime is a STASSI member
or an aspiring SPASI member. I would like to see
mass firings, mass terminations of everybody who joined because unworks.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
You're getting in at right.
Speaker 18 (35:27):
It's one thing if you've been in there for fifteen years,
easy for us to say, hey, guys, give up your pension.
We're so brave, and you're so pathetic, you know, look
at us, how brave we are. Just give up your
pension up, uproot your life because you don't like the
Jay six Brons whatever.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
I'm a little bit more nuanced on that. It's easy
to talk.
Speaker 18 (35:44):
Big, right, But the people who wanted in on it,
that's the Stasi. Those people all have to go. Everybody
fire them all.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Man, Mike, come back soon, brother, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
Always pleasure.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Oh Cuomo, you know when he got the hook.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
There was a guy he does a TV show on
the first it's called I'm Right. There was a guy
who told you Andrew Cuomo will be back. I think
Andrew Cuomo is coming back. Let's talk to Ennez Stepmin
about that and other things in a moment before we
talked to Inez, that same guy also told you about
Pure Talk. He told you to switch your cell phone
service because Verizon hates your guts.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
AT and T hate your guts.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
All this cultural filth we've seen, we have funded it
because the corporate world has turned against us. We fund
the corporate world. They take our money and use it
against this. It's awful. It's awful. How much of the
destruction of our country we've paid for myself included. You
don't have to do that with your cell phone. Pure Talk.
They'll give you the same service, same five G network.
(36:51):
You'll pay less, brand new phones, keep your phone, keep
your number, brand new. Whatever you want, Pure Talk has it,
and they hire Americans.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I love that. Today's the day to.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Switch pure Talk dot com slash JESSETV.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Well, you know, the last thing I would ever do
is brag on my cell or draw attention to, you know,
things that I've been right about. But remember when Andrew
Cuomo got the hook for having you know, the magic
fingers as the governor and they threw him out of office.
And I told you he still has eighteen million dollars
in a campaign war chest, and he's a political animal,
(37:36):
and he's most definitely coming back.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Remember when I told you that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, News twelve New York's reporting the man is set
to make a run for mayor Ah the old Oracle
nailed it again. Joining me now to congratulate me and
talk about this is my friend in As Stepman, senior
policy analyst from the Independent Women's Forum, and As do
you have anything you'd like to say to me right now?
Speaker 10 (37:57):
Oh?
Speaker 19 (37:58):
What you mean commenting on your genius and foresight? I mean,
I feel like you've left nothing left to say.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Thanks, and that's all. That's all I needed to hear
from you. No, all right, So how does this work?
Obviously he's a political animal from a political family.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
He's now going to be mayor. That's a bit of
a downgrade.
Speaker 20 (38:19):
I mean it kind of it isn't.
Speaker 19 (38:21):
It isn't in New York, right, don't forget the Rudy
Giuliani Wren for.
Speaker 20 (38:24):
President coming out.
Speaker 19 (38:25):
I mean, being the mayor of a city of nine
million people is not like, you know, being the mayor,
like a small town mayor. It's it's more people than
I think some states probably, I don't know the exact
number of people, for example, in Wyoming, but you know,
governing New York City is quite quite a big job.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So yeah, all right, it is for those of us
who are not New Yorkers, which you are, how does
this work? What do the politics look like in New York?
Because they don't all get along. We look at a
Democrat state. We see Letitia James, we see Kathy Kolkel,
we see Eric Adams, we see all these the Alvin Braggs,
and we think, while they're all on the same team,
(39:03):
but New York is a famously competitive state where Democrats
will slip a knife between the ribs of the next
Democrat in line in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
So who's friends with who?
Speaker 19 (39:15):
I'm not sure if anyone knows at this point, but
the tension between the governor and the mayor of New
York City is not a new phenomenon. I do want
to point out that both of these people, so Cuomo
almost certainly was taken out by an interior Democrat hit
to avoid, in part, questions about the decisions he made
about nursing homes during COVID Right, So instead there was
(39:37):
some sort of internal Democrat hit to take him out
for being a little too handsy and making some comments
in the office. I guess me too is now just
the weapon d jour among Democrats to take out each
other behind the scenes. But just like what happened with
Eric Adams, it really seems like a case of one
was like a selective me too wing and the other
(39:58):
one selective prosecution. Because I have a hard time imagining
that bil de Blasio wasn't accepting, you know, first first
class upgrades on his flight and the nice hotel rooms. Famously,
he was very cozy with developers in New York. So
like this, this level of corruption is sort of endemic,
not just to New York but unfortunately to many of
(40:18):
America's large blue cities. So you know, it does smack
a little bit of a selective prosecution. Then the fact
that Eric Adams was taken out, which for really ticky
tac kind of stuff. This wasn't like Grand Tammany Hall
level corruption. This was you know, upgrades and hotel rooms
for pushing the permitting process a little faster.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, and honestly, for a New York politician, I don't
even think that rises to the level of crimes New Jersey.
There's stuff in goal bars underneath the bed. Get with
the program, New York. Okay, let's switch gears a little
bit here because it's kind of national. How's Donald Trump
able to kill congestion pricing in New York?
Speaker 3 (40:56):
What happened here?
Speaker 20 (40:58):
Okay, So there's two things involved here.
Speaker 19 (41:00):
One is the fact that this congestion pricing is affecting
travel coming from New Jersey into New York.
Speaker 20 (41:05):
That you know, we think.
Speaker 19 (41:06):
About the Tristate area as one blob, but it is
in fact three separate states, and so there's interstate travel
involved here. The other aspect is that apparently there there's
a law on the books from nineteen sixteen that allows
the federal government to veto a toll on any road
that was built in part with federal funds, which is
virtually all roads, major highways, and so on. I'm actually
(41:27):
not one hundred percent sure about the constitutionality of that
law here. I would look at the case South Dakota
against the United States that this is when the federal
government tried to institute the drinking age at twenty one
in all states.
Speaker 20 (41:41):
In South Dakota with a holdout.
Speaker 19 (41:42):
And said, no, we're going to serve you know, eighteen
year olds beer in our bar and that's our decision.
And the federal government came in and said, no, you
have to because you know, the number of drunk drivers
on the road is correlated.
Speaker 20 (41:54):
With you know, where the drinking age is.
Speaker 19 (41:56):
And therefore we, the federal government have the right to
tell South Dakota what it's drinking age be if they
want federal highway funds. This kind of is this is
a closer nexus than that The Supreme Court upheld that,
But a lot of conservatives, myself included, think that was
probably a mistake.
Speaker 20 (42:11):
This is a closer nexcess though than that.
Speaker 19 (42:13):
Right now, you're talking about federally in part federally funded roads,
and a toll being laid on top of the road
is directly authorized by Congress, the power for the federal
government to say, Nope, we don't want that toll, So,
you know, at least on federal law, I think the
Trump administration is on pretty solid ground here.
Speaker 20 (42:31):
Actually, even though it's surprising, I have the same surprise reaction.
Speaker 19 (42:34):
I was like, how can the federal government tell university
where to have its toll?
Speaker 20 (42:38):
Like what stupid tolls you can put on?
Speaker 19 (42:40):
But apparently there is a congressionally authorized power to do this.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Okay, And as before I let you go real quick,
I have to ask you about the piece she wrote
about Trump in universities.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
What can he do to change the rotten system we have?
Speaker 19 (42:57):
There's so much he can do, and I think his
administration has already working on. There really are two major
hammers here. One is that universities are completely dependent on
federal money. We're just talking about federal highway funds, right,
Universities much more direct recipients of the federal teath. First
of all, there's just there's billions of grants. They make
up you know, anywhere from about fifty percent of the
(43:18):
operating budget of a lot of Ivy League universities that's
in grants for research. Now, some of that might be
you know, good research that we want money going to
search on cancer.
Speaker 20 (43:27):
A lot of it, as we're seeing with the.
Speaker 19 (43:29):
DOGE spotlight on all of these government agencies, is for
DEI programs, is for actively pernicious you know, government bs
that really shouldn't be funded by the American taxpayer. So
that's one lever against them as all these grants which
DOGE is going through as we speak.
Speaker 20 (43:46):
The second lever.
Speaker 19 (43:47):
Is just the student loan programs, I mean, the actual
lifeblood of universities. And the reason they've been able to
raise tuition year after year well above inflation and put
such a squeeze on so many middle class families is
because the federal government underwrites the student loan program. Like
if you think about it, like if you went to
a bank and you said, I want to attend a
two thousand thranked you know, small university and I want
(44:09):
to study queer studies, okay, and I want a loan
for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You know, wells
Fargo is going to look at that application and say,
how do you plan to pay back one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars? Whereas the federal government just gives a
blank check, and that allows universities to keep raising the price, right,
because there's just this blank loan system that keeps up
with the price of tuition.
Speaker 20 (44:29):
So in both those cases, universities are vulnerable.
Speaker 19 (44:33):
They've been violating the Civil Rights Acts, Title six, seven,
and nine over and over again, blatantly, repeatedly and publicly.
They have just made themselves incredibly vulnerable. And from what
I hear, Congress and the Trump administration are looking at
an attack on endowments. So university is in a world
of hurt, potentially in the next year.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
So yes, yes, burn it all down, Trump, Yes, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So excited is thank you? Go back? All right?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
We have light in the mood. Next, it is time
to lighten the mood. And this is a political light
in the mood. You know, there's an old saying never
to interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. The
(45:21):
Democrat Party has turned into the party of radicalized freaks
that are kind of not pleasant to be around, and
so you'd probably if you have those people in.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Your party, want them to tone it down. Jasmine Crockett,
the loudmouth.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Moron congresswoman from from the Dallas area here in Texas.
She is apparently the new media darling. She's on TV
every day. Smile. This woman is writing gop ads for
the midterms every single day.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Do you right now?
Speaker 21 (45:48):
Has a fifty three percent approval rating. It's higher than
it's ever been. Seventy percent believe that he's fulfilling his promises,
and forty five percent believe Democrats should be more moderate.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Do you?
Speaker 21 (45:58):
What do you take away? I think there's a lot
to make of those numbers. What's your takeaway from that?
Speaker 22 (46:02):
My takeaway is, just like the election, we've got to
do better at education. People don't understand, but you will
understand when those hospitals in rural America start closing down
even more. You will understand when you don't have your
Social Security. You will understand when your Medicaid, your Medicare
goes away. You will understand as planes continue to fall
out of the sky. Soon you will understand why it's
(46:24):
important to maybe have somebody that isn't loud and ridiculous,
and maybe Sleepy Joe is what we wanted because we
could at least sleep at night.
Speaker 20 (46:33):
Yeah, that's amen.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I encourage Democrats to continue right along that road.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
You go, girl, I see them all.
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