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October 14, 2025 43 mins

President Trump has struck a historic peace deal in the middle east, freeing all the remaining living hostages in the process. Jesse Kelly gets reaction from Dinesh D'Souza on this, but not before a conversation about Letitia James and other Democrats facing real accountability. Plus, an entire government has been eliminated amid a purge of workers. Jesse gets analysis from Ned Ryun on this and other things.I'm Right with Jesse Kelly on The First TV

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What a night tonight on I'm right, we have Danesh
Jasuza here to talk about that peace deal. We're going
to talk about government people maybe going to prison, government
people getting fired, all that and more coming up on
I'm right now. All right, there's about a thousand things

(00:25):
going on in the news we need to get to tonight,
and we only have an hour to get to it.
So I wanted to first focus right here at home.
I wanted to talk about what's happening right now with
Latucia James and possibly John Brannan and others, because there's
a there's a dangerous thing happening. I'm not quite sure

(00:45):
how we fix it, but I'll explain what it is
in a moment. Latitia James, as you're well aware, got
indicted for mortgage fraud. I'll explain a little more in
a moment. Here she was talking about it.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
This is nothing more than a continuation of the President's
desperate weaponization of our justice system. He is forcing federal
law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because I
did my job as the New York State Attorney General.
These charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements

(01:21):
make clear that his only goal is political retribution at
any cost.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
We'll get to the charges themselves in a moment. To
just hang with me here, I have oftentimes compared where
we're at right now with America's communists, America's Democrats to
the story of Doctor Frankenstein and his Monster. If you've
never read the book, that's fine, Actually thought it was
kind of boring. But either way, if you've never read
the book or seen the movies, this guy, by the way,

(01:52):
the monster's name was not Franknteon. The doctor's name was Frankenstein.
And he essentially thought that he could create life, patched
together a bunch of body parts and create human life.
Ends up catch it a couple of breaks. This thing
comes to life, and it's big and it's mean, it's bad,

(02:13):
and all of a sudden he has created something that
he doesn't have full control over anymore, and something that's terrible. Well,
here's what has happened. And this has been ten years
in the making. We have to understand it's actually probably
a little older than that if you factory in Obama.
But this is what has happened, and this is where
we're at in the United States of America. For ten

(02:35):
years we'll just stick with that number for now. For
ten years, the elite communists in our society, that would
be Democrat politicians, members of the media, professors, these types.
They have told the Democrat base over and over and
over and over again that Donald Trump is the sum
of all fears, that you know, all that you know,

(02:57):
a Nazi fascist, that he's that he's all of these things,
that he's the end of everything, authoritarian. This is the
over and over and over again for ten years. Listen,
human beings, all of us, you and me and everyone else.
We are all susceptible to propaganda. We are all affected

(03:20):
by what goes into our eyes and what goes into
our ears. It's human nature. But the Democrat is more
of a herd animal anyway, less of an individual thinker.
Somebody who wants to be part of a herd. That
person is one hundred times susceptible as you are to propaganda.

(03:42):
So ten years, Nazi hitler, Nazi hitler, Nazi hitler, over
and over and over and over and over and over
and over again. Ten years, here's what has happened. Now,
does it matter? Far extreme, moderate, If you are in
America Democrat, you do believe that you are living somehow

(04:04):
under some authoritarian regime. That's Adolf Hitler. And by the way,
don't argue with it. Don't talk about how they're crazy.
I know they're crazy. I know it doesn't make sense,
but that's genuinely what they believe as a result of that. Well, politicians,
all politicians forever, not just in our country, forever. People

(04:26):
who have to earn votes to get elected. They are
subject to the will of the people. They have to
do things the voters want or they lose power. If
you're an elite communist, Letitia James is a great example,
but we could use any of them. You have programmed

(04:46):
your herd animal base for ten years to believe that
they are living underneath Adolf Hitler and that anything everything
is acceptable in stopping Adolf Hitler. Now, Democrats want results.
Democrats demand results. That is in large part why Donald

(05:11):
Trump's four years out of power after he was president,
why there were so many of these ridiculous sham lawsuits
and arrests and mugshots. Because if you are a Democrat
at any level, now, any level, it doesn't matter if
you're in the city council or running to be a
United States senator or president. If you are a Democrat

(05:31):
and you want to get elected, you know you need
Democrat voters to vote for you. Right, of course, makes
perfect sense. Democrat voters are demanding you have an answer
for the Nazi, you have an answer for Donald Trump.
Why did all these das ags from Fanny Willis to
Letitia James and why were they all so hell bent

(05:53):
on creating ridiculous charges in order to arrest and imprison
Donald Trump. That's what Democrat voters demand. You can go
look at every single poll out there. It shows the
number one issue for Democrat voters with their politicians right now.
Number one on every single poll is I want you
to fight Trump even harder. You're not doing enough. Get Trump,

(06:15):
Get Trump, Get Trump, Get Trump, Which brings us, of
course to Latitia James. Why did she run on what
she ran on? She ran on getting Trump, She campaigned
on it, gave speeches on it. I'll get Trump. Why
would she do that? That's what the voters demand? And
then when she got elected she chose to deliver for

(06:37):
the people who put her in office. She even included
photo ops. You remember that famous photo op of her
sitting in court smiling and smug. As Donald Trump was
getting raked over the cools in New York, she was
responding to the will of her monster. She was responding
to the will of the Democrat voter. And now now

(07:01):
that it's coming back on them, these communists are mortified.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I mean, this is something that everyone in America, or
many people at least, if you're lucky enough to be
able to buy a house in America, you deal with this,
right The federal government doesn't go after all of these
people for doing this.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Okay, let's just clarify something here. That's just Cassie Hunt
Casey Hunt on how to say her name. She actually
interviewed me once a long time ago. She's just mortified
that communists would be held to account for anything, So
she's making up ridiculous lies about mortgage fraud. Maybe you're
unaware of how this works. As someone who has had
to move across the country multiple times, I am way

(07:46):
too experienced at this. Let me explain. When you buy
a home, a new home, they will ask you is
this your primary residence or is this something you're going
to be renting out to other people? Why do they
ask you that? Because if your home is going to
be your primary residence, you are going to get different

(08:08):
interest rates, different down payment requirements than if it is
some secondary home you are renting out. So if it's
your primary residence, you have to say. And it's not
as if it's a real head scratching question. Every mortgage
application I've ever filled out, and I've filled out many,
it couldn't be more clear. It couldn't be more black

(08:30):
and white. And since I've never owned a second home
and don't own a second home now, it was always
very very obvious I have to fill out primary residence.
It's not a oh, whoops, my pen and fell. I
know it is a deliberate, deceptive act and I've never
done it in my life, and frankly, I've never even
been tempted to do so. And it's not something everyone does.

(08:53):
And the reason everyone doesn't do it is because it
is so black and white. It's so cut and dry.
You lied or you didn't. And contrary to what you're
hearing on MSNBC, it is a big deal.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
But look, this is a serious as you said, bank
fraud carries a penalty of thirty years in prison. Not
that a person convicted on a first offense would get
that sentence. But it's an extremely serious use of the
Justice Department to prosecute someone for what looks like a
technical violation. And again, the ill gotten gains alleged here
less than nineteen thousand dollars under circumstances which we can

(09:30):
all see are highly.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Highly questionable. It's just nineteen thousand dollars. What's happening. Well, again,
these people behaved like animals for ten years, and now
just the very thought that this is coming back on them,
it's more than they can bear. That's why they're running

(09:52):
to the camera every day all day complaining about the
weaponization of the DJ.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Don't know if we can trust what's coming out of
the Department of Justice right now. And when you have
an administration and individuals who are manipulating the justice system
of America in that way, they best understand that this
is not only about something that affects the individuals that
they're targeting. This affects all of us who believe that flawed.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Though it may be.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
That a justice system is actually supposed to be blind
in the way that it does its work, not targeting
people because of who.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
They are, let me say first this week, this is
a watershed moment in American history. Not since Watergate, Chris
have we seen a president weaponize the Justice Department to
go at there as political rivals.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
They're not angry because the DOJ is going after Democrats
who commit crimes. They're angry because they were told that
Donald Trump had to be stopped at any cost, and
he was never stopped. They're not even angry about all
the malfeasans done by Titia James and Jack Smith and

(11:17):
Vanny Wilson's doesn't anger them at all. They're angry that
Hitler is still there and hasn't been stopped yet. And
what's more, this world of make believe they created in
the minds of the Democrat voter, in the mind of
Frankenstein's monster, continues to be reinforced by the elite communists
who use language like this.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
It is just such a hallmark of tyrannical, autocratic dictatorship
societies that they use the Prosecutorial Department as a political weapon.
It is a disgrace and every American, I don't care
if you're Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, moderate people should be

(11:59):
forcefully rising up against this, speaking out against it, and
making it clear how inimical. This is to what our
democracy has been for so I stood for for you know,
more than two centuries.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I don't know where this goes because right now there
appears to be no mechanism in place to take the
Democrat voter, not the politicians and media people to take
the Democrat voter, bring them out of the world to
make believe and turn down the temperature. Everything just keeps
turning it up. I don't know where we go from here.

(12:39):
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Speaker 2 (13:48):
No matter how powerful you are, no matter how much
money you think you may have. No one is above
the loss.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Uh yeah, how'd that work out? Joining me now? Somebody
who knows just a little bit about lawfair Denesh Tsuza.
He's got a new film out, which we'll get to
in a few called The Dragons Prophecy. Hey denish nobody's
above the law. That woman would never weaponize a justice department,
that's for sure.

Speaker 9 (14:14):
Right, I mean, what is so delicious about this, Jesse
is not merely that the law has now come back
to haunt her, but it's come back to haunt her kind.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Of on the exact same subject.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Right.

Speaker 9 (14:27):
She was trying to get Trump on a real estate deal,
on inflating the value of his assets. And now guess what,
she has kind of got her hand in the exact
same cookie jar and accept that the case against her
appears to be much more open and shut than it
ever was against Trump.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Deness Talk about your experience with the Southern District of
New York.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Well, I think for me it was really a transformational
because as I was sitting in a sort of a
conference room with these attorneys, who, by the way, completely
in league with the Eric Holder Justice Department, I suddenly
realized that for a very minor infraction donating twenty grand
of my own money to my longtime college friend Wendy Long,

(15:16):
if these guys could have locked me up for ten
years for doing that, they would have.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
And that's a sobering realization. You know.

Speaker 9 (15:24):
Part of it is that it capsizes your previous understanding
of American politics. I used to think of American politics
as a kind of a debating society, the left, the right,
Each of us puts forward our ideas before the American people.
The American people decide we're going to go this way
or that way. And I realized the degree to which
our politics has become gangsterized by the left and by

(15:46):
the Democratic Party. And I didn't even know that my
case was an opening salvo for so many other prosecutions
and so much lawfair you know, Carter Page, Papadopolis, Michael Flynn.
Of course, later Trump himself so looking back, it looks
like my case, small as it was by itself, was

(16:07):
the start of something much bigger.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Denesh, before we start talking peace, steel and hamas and
things like that, talk to me about the Dragon's prophecy.
Cool name, by the way.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
Yeah, it's based upon an image in the Book of Revelation.
The dragon is in fact the devil, And the underlying
theme of this film, a little different than my other films,
by the way, is that there is a cosmic struggle
between good and evil, between God and the devil, that's
been going on since the beginning of time, and that
the events we see in front of us, like October seventh,
the war now, even the peace plan, they are part

(16:41):
of this larger you could call it moral and perhaps
even biblical perspective. So my film draws on politics, but
it also draws on biblical analysis and even biblical prophecy
to situate the things happening right in front of our
eyes in this kind of wide angle perspective.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Let's talk about what happened today. Donald Trump had quite
a day on the world stage.

Speaker 10 (17:08):
Here.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
He was a little bit of it.

Speaker 11 (17:10):
This is not only the end of a war. This
is the end of the age of terror and death
and the beginning of the age of faith and hope.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
And of God.

Speaker 11 (17:22):
It's the start of a grand concord and lasting harmony
for Israel and all the nations of what will soon
be a truly magnificent region. I believe that so strongly.
This is the historic dawn of a new Middle East.
It's more obvious than ever that the productive and responsible

(17:44):
nations of this region should not be enemies or adversaries.
You should be partners and eventually even friends. And that's
what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I know it, Denish. I try not to be too cynical.
I can't help it with some of the things I see,
And don't be wrong. I'm happy, you know, hostagees home,
but I'm not hopeful there's going to be a lasting
piece here. Am I wrong?

Speaker 6 (18:09):
You are not wrong.

Speaker 9 (18:11):
In fact, if the Bible is to be believed, there
will not be any ultimate settlement of those issues in
that region really till the end of time. This is
not to say that they can't be intermediate or penultimate progress.
And I don't want to take anything away from the
spectacular achievement of Trump.

Speaker 10 (18:29):
Here.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
We profile in my film a young woman, a young
mom whose husband was taken captive in Gaza. This is
a woman named Leishai Miran, and you know, her husband
is back home now and they have two little girls.
And so I feel a personal sense of that, you know,
joy in a family being brought together.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
So it is a momentous day.

Speaker 9 (18:52):
But I think you know as well as I do
that quite apart, even from the Bible, the underlying hatreds
not to mention the desire to push Israel out from
the river to the sea. Not to mention the global
Jihadis who wake up in Egypt and Saudi Arabia and
Turkey and Iran every day. To them, this is a

(19:13):
small part of the overall picture, which includes infiltrating Australia
and Canada and Europe and the United States, setting up
mosques and taking over school boards. They want a hundred
ilhan omars. That agenda, I must say, is going to
march on and be somewhat more difficult to corral than
getting the hostages home.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Densha. Were we ever going to be able to get
a handle on jihad? I mean, obviously we've tried a lot,
you know, twenty years of the Global war on terror,
and I realize bombing isis and all kinds of things
we've done. Well, that's fine. There's a lot of dead terrorists,
but jihad continues apace, and it's just hard to figure
out if this is one of those things that can

(19:56):
be eradicated.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
I think that we don't grasp it because we missed
the spiritual dimensions to all this, even anti Semitism. If
you try to think about it, you can explain it
as a form of envy towards successful groups, and you've
you've gone part way toward understanding it, but I think
you haven't really grasped the full of it. I think
the same with regard to jihad. You know, Trump is

(20:20):
approaching this like a real estate guy. You know, he
looks at Gaza, he goes, I see all this rubble.
I don't see why we can't have nice buildings, maybe
a Trump Tower, some cool restaurants, people work high tech companies.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
You know.

Speaker 9 (20:32):
So Trump in a way saying why wouldn't anyone take
this better path that we're offering him and the idea
that people are serious when they say things like we
prefer death to life, we want to shed more blood.
I've given two children to the war. I can't wait
to sacrifice my other three. All of this, I think

(20:53):
is for Trump. This is like a speaking language from
a different planet.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Where do people go see The Dragons Prophecy.

Speaker 9 (21:02):
Then it's streaming, It's in DBB, It's on a number
of platforms, but a simple one stop shop. Go to
the website The Dragonsploral, The Dragons prophecyfilm dot Com.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
Check it out.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
D Nash, my brother, Thank you as always. I appreciate
you very much. Yeah, it's something we've talked about before.
When it comes to Trump. He's so good at foreign
policy and he's so good at making these piece deals.
Because he does it looks exactly what the netch just
said is what we've talked about. Looks at everything like
a business decision. Hey, but why are we fighting. You

(21:39):
could be making money and I'll be making money. Let's
get a deal. We'll make money. Well, we'll have more money,
and we'll all have more stuff and we'll all be happy.
And that is an extremely effective way to do foreign policy,
right up to the point where you run up against
religious wars, religious extremists. Because there are people, there are
groups around the world. I don't care about money. That's

(22:02):
not what interests them. So look again, I don't want
to pour cold water on it. It's a great day,
given the Peace Prize. Whatever is a great day. Good
for Donald Trump, good for him for trying lasting piece.
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something great. Before we get to Ned Ryan, and in

(23:28):
fact I'm going to ask him about some of this.
The government shut down continues, and it looks like right
now it's going to continue for quite some time. How long,
I don't know. I say that it could end tomorrow.
But the thing is right now, the GOP is starting
to get some things they want. Democrats don't appear to

(23:50):
be gaining much ground on this, and they're not gaining
any ground politically. The polls are showing that Democrats are
in fact losing ground. The American people are correct blaming
Democrats for the continued shutdown. Okay, so wouldn't it make
sense if you're an elected Democrat just open the government
back up. If it's a losing issue for you, get

(24:10):
off that issue and move on. But Democrats have all
kinds of losing issues right now, and they are held
hostage by their base and cannot move on. In fact,
this is something I talked about a bit in the opening,
but this is a little bit of a different way.
Their base is demanding, the rabid animals that make up
the Democrat base, they are demanding a win of some kind.

(24:33):
Get Trump, do something, get up something, give us something.
They're demanding it. But as long as the polls continue
the way they are, Republicans just have precious little incentive
to actually give them anything. It's got to be a
hard life right now being a Democrat politician. And doesn't

(24:54):
that feel good to say that? So where are we at?
Here's mister pres Russell Bolk said.

Speaker 12 (25:02):
The reductions in force have begun related to this shutdown.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
How many layoffs have you authorized for this first round?

Speaker 10 (25:09):
Then?

Speaker 6 (25:10):
From which agency?

Speaker 13 (25:10):
And it would be Democrat oriented because we figured, you know,
they started this thing, so they should be Democrat oriented.
It'll be a lot and I we'll announce the numbers
over the next couple of days, but it'll be a
lot of people, all because of the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay, well, it hasn't been a lot so far, to
be fair, it's been four thousand. Remember, the federal government
is and I can't even believe I'm going to say this.
I just can't even believe this is where we are.
The United States federal government is the largest employer in
the United States of America. If you had told the
founders that one day their limited federal government would be

(25:46):
the largest employer, that would have just handled the country
back to the British be that as it may. It's
the largest employer in the United States of America, and
so four thousand people is not a lot. A pimp
wan on elephants, but it's not a lot. It's probably
a shot across the bow. Jd. Van says, more common.

Speaker 12 (26:08):
The longer it goes on, Maria, the more significant they're
going to be. If you remember, we went nine days
before announcing any significant layoffs. Again, the President of the
United States wanted to reopen the government. He was trying
to work with Democrats in order to make that happen.
But the longer this goes on, the deeper the cuts
are going to be. And Maria, to be clear, some
of these cuts are going to be painful. This is
not a situation that we relish. This is not something

(26:30):
that we're looking forward to. But the Democrats have dealt
us a pretty difficult set of cards. We're trying to
do the best that we can with the shutdown situation
that Chuck Schumer's left us.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Right, Let's be clear about this. Jd. Vance loves cutting
government jobs. That is the public line they have chosen
to go with. He's just messaging there. Jd Vance, I
promise you was not sitting at home crying because some
dirt ball federal bureaucrats got fired. That's the kind of
message you have to say, Hey, we don't want to

(27:03):
do it, but you're force in my hand. So that's
where we're at now. The Democrats were at least partially
banking on one thing, the troops. You know as well
as I do, the Democrat Party they're not un American,
they are anti American. It has become the party that
thinks America sucks. Their base thinks America sucks. They campaign

(27:26):
on it all the time. This is what they believe. Sorry,
your dad's Democrat parties cont but they also know you
can't advertise that, and when necessary, you have to talk
about the troops. And during a shutdown, the troops don't
get paid. Looks like Donald Trump found a loophole which
is going to allow him to get the troops paid,

(27:50):
which brings us right back to the bind Democrats are
currently in. If the troops are getting paid and government
bureaucrats are getting fired, why would Republicans come to the
negotiating table. Chuck Schumer keeps throwing hissy fits.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
So now we're in a government shutdown and you may
be asking yourself how the hell did we get here?
Donald Trump and the Republican Party are held bent on
taking healthcare away from sixty million people, closing community clinics,
rural hospitals, nursing homes. Also they can keep giving tax
breaks to their billionaire friends.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's a disgrace.

Speaker 8 (28:31):
So Democrats have three words for this, No fucking way.
It's literally life or death.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Of course, he had to throw in the cuss word there.
This is something Democrats do all the time. Now drives
me crazy, but had to throw in the cussword there.
They're in trouble. I am loving every second of it.
We don't have many times in politics where you and
I get to sit back and smile and enjoy, but
this is one of those times. And shall see where

(29:01):
it goes. Now, I'm want to talk to you about something.
But by the way, we're going to go to Ned
Ryan in a moment. He knows all about the administrative state,
what they're gonna be cutting. We've talked to Ned about
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Speaker 12 (30:22):
Why are these firings necessary? Well, I just think it
shows the different priorities of Democrats and Republicans In the midst.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Of these shutdowns.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
You really have to ask yourself who do we care
more about? Federal bureaucrats in Washington, DC or low income
women and getting the food benefits they deserve, our troops
getting the payment they need, flood insurance across the Southeast
in the midst of hurricane season. Federal workers, Kristin, if
you would let me finish, we have to lay off
some federal workers in the midst of this shutdown to

(30:54):
preserve the essential benefits for the American people that the
government does provide. So we don't want to be in
this situation. We don't want to be laying off federal workers.
But the Democrats have shut down the government.

Speaker 10 (31:04):
They have forced us.

Speaker 12 (31:05):
To choose between American citizens.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
And federal bureaucrats. We're choosing to.

Speaker 12 (31:10):
Benefits, the critical services that benefit our American citizens.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, I mean, JD's gonna have to speak for himself there.
I understand why he has to message it. But I
want to lay off federal workers like millions of them
joining me now, my buddy, Ned Ryan, CEO of American Majority.
All right, Ned, all joking aside, and the complete elimination
of entire agencies aside, which is what I want. Can
you explain NERD out for us for a moment. Why

(31:37):
does it take a shutdown to finally fire some of
these career leadions.

Speaker 14 (31:42):
Well, I think they're taking the opportunity that's been afforded
them Jesse as Democrats that have served up this opportunity.

Speaker 10 (31:51):
I'm in total agreement with you.

Speaker 14 (31:53):
They fired four thousand federal bureaucrats in the last couple
of days. That numbers missing a few zeros and doesn't
even make me happy. Four hundred thousand. Now we're starting
to talk, and I understand how JD's having a message this,
I get it.

Speaker 10 (32:08):
Great.

Speaker 14 (32:08):
Whatever, The fact of the matter is, the federal bureaucrats
are part of the administrative state, and I want to
make this point for those listening. The administrative state is
a backstop for Democrats when they lose elections to actually
preserve democrats agenda. And so really what we're trying to
do is remove that backstop from Democrats by devolving the

(32:29):
administrative state, breaking it apart, and actually returning us back
to a representative government. So the elections do have real
consequences that we're not just elections come and go. Presidential
administrations come and go, and the state remains and these
bureaucrats remain to actually be the ones making the decisions
and doing the real governing. So I appreciate the opportunity
we have, and I hope that Trump really unleashes Russ's

(32:51):
vote who's head of O and B to go well
above and beyond four thousands.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Ned before we get to Russ and well above and on,
can you explain as the man responsible for American Leviathan,
which was wonderful, by the way, can you explain how
the federal government, how the bureaucracy serves as a backstop
for when Democrats lose an election. What's that mean?

Speaker 14 (33:12):
Because this is what was put in place one hundred
years ago with the rise of the administrative state, that
the progressives really envisions an educated elite, this ruling class,
these bureaucrats being separated out from politics, in which they
thought politics was the corrupting force. They had to be
separated out from it, and they had to be the
ones doing the real governing and the real decision making,

(33:34):
using applied science to make better decisions for the American people,
to lead to greater progress, to lead us to an
enlightened state, to the end of history. And so what
has always been in envisionable the laste hundred years, and
I think it's becoming more and more apparent to the
American people, who's doing the real decision making, who's doing
the real governing. It really was an attempt to remove
politics out of the real governing of America. So the

(33:55):
elections really didn't have the consequences that they should have,
and then the power of the real power was to
rest in the hands of these educator elite, these unelected bureaucrats.
That was what was always envisioned Jesse. And really, when
you realize Democrats are aligned and allied with this administrative
state bureaucracy, Democrats don't always have to win elections because

(34:16):
until we actually dismantle this bureaucracy, a lot of the
decisions made by these bureaucrats are simpatico with the Democratic
Party today.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Which brings me to where we are right now. Ned
I like russ vote a lot. It's very yes, cable. Well,
he knows exactly what needs to be done. But as
of this point in time, we're talking, what is it,
four thousand workers have been fired. That's about one point
five million short. How do we increase that number?

Speaker 14 (34:42):
Well, it's one of those things that Trump has to
unleash him. And the other thing too that I got
to tell you, Jesse, that's become very apparent. You and
I know this, but it's becoming even more apparent. We've
seen the enemy, and the enemy is us, and as
red state senators that have really started to throw some
roadblocks in the way of Trump making decisions in August
through the end of the fiscal year and making some

(35:04):
of the dramatic cuts that need to be made. And
these red state senators, who apparently don't have a backbone,
don't have any guts or the moral fortitude to actually
do what's necessary to restore representative government, are really throwing
a monkey wrench and trying to hit those brakes on
what the Trump administration really does want to do. I
will say this, I think Trump is going to give

(35:27):
RUSS more freedom to continue down this path because you're right,
four thousand to me is like a rounding error. The
federal government, of its own volition, outside of Trump, outside
of RUSS, has already deemed that there are eight hundred
thousand non essential federal government employees. So when we say
four thousands is not the right number, four hundred thousands.

Speaker 10 (35:46):
More like it. I still think the real number is eight.

Speaker 14 (35:49):
Hundred thousand and even more importantly, Jesse, those that remain
need to be placed under the authority of our duly
elected representatives.

Speaker 10 (35:57):
And that's not the case right now.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Okay, how do we make that the case need? What
is this? Is this an executive order? Is this the law?
We have got to bring the administrative state to heal?
I know I'm appreciated the choir, this is your baby here,
but how do we bring it to heal. Let's assume
we've only got three more years. You never know what
life's going to happen in politics. How do we bring
them to heal?

Speaker 14 (36:20):
So a couple things. I still think there needs to
be a case that goes all the way to the
Supreme Court in which the Trump administration pushes the envelope
and says and most of the administrative state. For those listening,
I want to remind them, most of this administrative state
resides inside the Article two branch, the executive branch of
which the duly elected president is the head of it.
And I want them to push a case to the
Supreme Court to make a very definitive case in which

(36:42):
they argue that the head of the executive branch, Donald Trump,
has the ability to hire and fire whomever he pleases
inside of the Article two executive branch and push that
to the Supreme Court and say, ultimately it's up to
whoever the President wants to have on his team inside
the executive branch and if they agree with him, if
we can get that case or probably take eighteen months
to two years, so we don't have a whole lot

(37:04):
of time, get into Supreme Court and they make the
decision on behalf of Donald Trump and saying the executive
has this power, then he becomes the demolition man. So
I know that Ross has got a couple of things
that he's working on right now, but that to me
is the definitive case. If we can get that to
take place, Trump can start to fire hundreds of thousands
of employees inside the executive branch, and even more so Jesse.

(37:25):
We have to literally implode buildings after you're doing the firing,
implode the Department of Education, hid all of these things,
raise them to the ground. So that becomes even harder
because I'm fully aware that we will not always have
political power.

Speaker 10 (37:38):
We have to make their comeback path that much harder.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yes, I haven't been a DC in ages. If we
start raising buildings to the ground. I'm just going to
go get an apartment there or something like that. That's
just wonderful. All right, ned this shutdown. I know I'm
going to ask you to be no stra damis here,
but I can't help but think back to well, my
entire forty four years on planet watching Republicans cave in
cave in cave in cave. I know we haven't seen

(38:06):
anything like this yet, but it's hard to not think
we're gonna cave and give them something to end it.
Am I wrong?

Speaker 14 (38:12):
I think in this situation, Jesse, I hope that you
and I are both wrong, because you and I have
both of the same opinion. They give them the chance
to snatch victory defeat from the jaws of victory. Republicans
will do it almost every time. I think in this situation, though,
the Trump administration because they know it's at stake. I mean,
this really is about well, there's a couple of different things,
but the real important one is Democrats want to pay

(38:34):
for health care for the illegal aliens because they view
them as the next well, they view them as their
power demographic. I want to remind people this is about politics.
This is about political power. This is about Democrats trying
to take care of the illegal aliens that are already
bringing them political power by including them in census that
obviously is a portionmen of electoral votes in House seats,
but also almost three trillion dollars of federal funding was

(38:59):
decided off the corupt twenty twenty census numbers. So they
want to keep the illegal aliens here, give them more
social welfare benefits, and hopes that somehow they can figure
out how to political power in twenty thirty and include
the illegal aliens in the count again to continue building
on their political power. So I think Trump is going
to hold firm. I think what they were able to

(39:19):
do by paying the military and arranging for military to
not be furlough to not be able to have their
pay pushed, I think that's removed one of the pressure points.
I can see this going on for a few more weeks,
and ultimately at the end of the day, I don't
think Trump's gonna cave, and Trump is giving Republicans a backbone.
I'm optimistic that we're gonna win this one, and it's

(39:41):
gonna be Democrats that are caving on this issue, but
they are fighting tooth and nail, because they realize this
is ultimately about trying to keep that power base of
the illegal aliens taken care of to lead to more
political power for Democrats. So they realize this is existential
for their political power. They also realized, I want to
make this last point, Jesse, this is also about making
sure that the Chuck Schumers of the world and other

(40:01):
establishment folks aren't primaried in twenty twenty six because progressives
are demanding this of them. So, Chuck Schuman, these guys
are kind of in a box. I think they're in
a between a rock and a hard place, and I'm
not sure there's an easy way out for them.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
All right, let's shift gears and go a little bit
more local here Virginia. I would love Virginia to be
a red state. It is purple at best. We have
a gubernatorial race coming up and ag race coming up.
It's gotten all kinds of spicy What can we be
looking at here?

Speaker 14 (40:34):
Well, a couple of things that need to be done, Jesse.
First of all, in the long term, the reason that
this is a purple state is there's about a quarter
million more model Democrats and Republicans. We don't do part
of partisan registration here, and there's about three hundred and
thirty nine thousand more absentee ballot requests from Model Democrats
and Republicans, so the numbers are rigged against Republicans inside
the state. However, Jay Jones and his text have given

(40:56):
us an opportunity. I'd be shocked if Jason Miaris doesn't
hold on as attorney general. You can see the poll
numbers two tightening up with the lieutenant governor and gubernatorial
race as well.

Speaker 10 (41:06):
You know American Majority Action or C four.

Speaker 14 (41:08):
We've been involved since June, actually before June, in fifteen
key houses, elegant races here. So if you were to
ask me, it's three weeks from tomorrow where I think
we would end up in Virginia. I think Miriis holds on.
I think it's gonna be very very close with the
governor and lieutenant governor's race. But I'm quietly optimistic we
can pick up the majority again in the House of Delegates,

(41:30):
pick up two seats and hold on to the other
close ones. And that to me right now, because the
numbers are so bad for us here in Virginia, I'd
be okay with those results.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I'll take it ned. Thank you, brother, I appreciate it,
all right, light in the mood. Thanks, all right, it
is time to lighten the movie. And communists ruin everything,

(42:03):
don't they. They ruin everything, and they ruin things you love.
If the NFL is actually a great example, I've told
you this one before. I used to be that guy
all eight hours on Sunday, watch it's great. I don't
watch it anymore. You had to go Black Lives Matter.
I don't watch it anymore. And I could listen to
a million things. Communists will take something, something cool, something awesome,

(42:26):
and then ruin it. You know, what's you know? I've
always thought it was cool these hakka dances. I know
you've seen these before. You know it's one of these
New England, New Zealand, Samoa Hawaii type thing where the
tribal peoples have these cool dances. I always thought that
kind of seemed cool. It was like a cool tradition.
But then, yeah, I mean New Zealand has a bunch

(42:47):
of dirty communists in their parliament too, and these things
have become a way for communists to protest. Don't be
heard for detroitbal peoples and all this other crap, and
now every time I see one like this one here,
I roull my eyes harder than the guy and charged it. No,
not that the guarantee was that would not be taking place.

(43:27):
He was sustained. I so sympathized with him. That's the
same thing I do now Here we go again
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