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October 21, 2025 45 mins

Democrats tried the 'No Kings' thing again and it didn't work out for them very well. In fact, it may have caused more damage than the party realizes. Jesse Kelly has the details on that, as well as some bad news for Republican voters in a red state. This comes as John Bolton recently got indicted. Miranda Devine is onboard to break down that and more. Plus, Mary Margaret Olohan and Virginia Allen report on a major media scandal.I'm Right with Jesse Kelly on The First TV

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, let's discuss the protests over the weekend, the
school your child goes to, John Bolton got indicted, the
low T GOP, all that and work coming up. I'm right, okay,

(00:23):
Before we get into the rest of the show, the
John Bolton stuff and everything else, let's address the elephant
in the room that would be the no Kings protests
over the weekend. Now, just a little background on the
leading up to this stuff that we talked about many
times before on the show.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Remember, communism, for all.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Of its history, it is understood the power of large
public demonstrations, protests, riots, things like that, all the way
back to the Bolsheviks.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
They've always understood that.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
And where they can't generate actual, genuine, you know, crowds,
they will create them. In fact, most of communists history
is them creating crowds. You create professional essentially riot organizations,
You pay professional rioters. They spread information about an upcoming
protester riot on social media, trying to gin up popularity

(01:17):
for them, and then on the day of it. Yeah,
there'll be some people there who are deranged communists. We'll
get to them in a moment, but the leaders of
it are almost always going to be paid and organized.
Almost every communist protest you've ever seen in the United
States of America was paid and organized, paid and organized.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
They never advertised that. Of course.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
The idea is they want you, they want me to
feel like these are organic things.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
People were just mad about Trump. But they're never organic things.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Paid and organized, that's why pallets of bricks show up.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's not cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
That's why professional signs show up. That's why they're paid
and organized. All right, we got that now. Leading up
to Saturday, you saw Democrat politicians after Democrat politician after
communist activists talking about the No Kings protest on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
No King's just No King's Dad.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
So it was professional, it was paid, it was organized,
and it was the standard bunch of freaks. In fact,
if you want to feel really great about something, So
I watched a lot of it, what clips and things
like that, what I could.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
The organic part of it never happened.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Really, there were the professionals, of course, most of those
were easier to spot. The other ones who showed up
were just old deranged communists. Those are the most committed
communists in the country. Old gray hairs now former hippies usually,
and you know weird, oh freak Tranees, Furyes, all these
other people. It didn't turn out to be what they
wanted it to be. They wanted it to be this

(02:47):
mass movement that sucked in the normies. But normies overall
are happy with the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
They just are.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's approval numbers remain over fifty percent. That's very high
for a modern American president. The American people as of
right now are happy with Donald Trump. If it ran
for election today, he'd win again. It's just the bottom line. Now,
speaking of the elephant in the room, this portion of
the No Kings protests is getting a lot of attention.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Hey, you never heard.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
About right, We saw that walking ad for Ozen Peak
making fun of Charlie Kirk's death, making fun of his assassination. Now, okay,
that the some crazy, deranged street animal being violent is

(03:39):
not exactly something that's going to surprise you at all.
Didn't surprise me. If you watch I'm right, you understand
full well how truly deranged and violent these people are.
We'll get into the why in a moment. But I
did want to take just a little sidebar here and
point out that as soon as I saw Jungus there
making fun of Charlie Kirk's Assassin nation. I thought to myself, well,

(04:03):
let's play a little game. I always play this game.
You can play it with me from now on. When
you see things like that, what is she teacher, nurse
or social worker? Teacher, nurse, social worker?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Every time? Every time it's one of them.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And of course lo and behold, people dug into it
online lives of TikTok many others, and they found out
Chungus was in fact a teacher.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
This brings me to you and me.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I know we are all what may I shouldn't say
all many of us are stuck in our current situation
of some kind. Maybe you're stuck in your town or
your school district, or I understand that.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I understand that.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
So I need to put this disclaimer on it. If
it's possible for you get your child out of government schools,
if that's not possible, because most people say it's not possible,
I can't.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
We're stuck here. I can't ford private school, I can't homeschool. Okay,
I got that.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
At least get involved in your child's school. Why am
I always able to play that game? Teacher nurse or
social worker, because it's always a teacher, nurse, or social worker.
Yes they're wonderful teachers, wonderful nurses. I've never met a
wonderful social worker. But either way, that profession is full

(05:23):
a violent, disgusting communists who only took that job so
they would have access to your child, not so they should,
not so they could teach them reading, writing, or arithmetic.
They took that job so they could take you a
child and break them. It's bad, it's really, frankly, it's

(05:45):
a national security issue. Here's communist John Denver at the
No King's rally, pretending to be a public speaker.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Republicans, Democrats, Independence, what brown right? This sixty eight year
old Jewish baby boomer love of small business owners, Christian
gen Ziers. This is as I Jen said. We are

(06:13):
the majority of America, and what do we want?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
What do we want?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
We want the promise of America for everyone. We want
a voice in our future. We are standing up in peaceful,
patriotic protests.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Just like our founders.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Called out no thrills, no.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Crowns, no kings.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
We are standing up because we don't want our streets,
film trust, We don't want our neighbors disappeared by Massasians.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's hard to listen to.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's not just chungus, it's the teaching profession from top
to bottom. So let's talk about the other aspect of it.
Because there were many, many, many celebrating, cheering on the
assassination of Charlie Kirk. And one thing you probably noticed
most of them.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
We're old.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
We need to get ourselves together, and we might even
need to be a little bit meaner because the Republicans
don't mind being mean.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
And by mean, what do you mean, do you mean protesting?

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Do you mean maybe we have to I notice, stop
being so nice?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Does you seem like a pretty nice lady.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I'm a pretty nice lady, but I could be pretty
mean too, okay.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
And I have to ask this because people on the
other side are going to say that they feel like
the Democrat Party has been mean recently with Charlie Kirk
being assassinated.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
They is a piece of garbage.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Of course, what we're mean. I am so tired of
people saying, oh, but you know, it's a terrible thing. No,
Hitler is dead. I'm glad Hitler's dead. Evil people have
no place in my world. Was a hateful human being.
It was disgusting the things that he said and did
I I have you know, I don't have time for that.

Speaker 8 (08:08):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
I have to point my energy in other directions.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I need to explain to you what has happened.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Why do you see so many older people so mean,
so vicious, so violent, Because that's not how I personally
think of older people. That's not been my experience in
my own family. And I think my grandma, my grandma Helen,
she worked in her garden, she quilted, she made homemade

(08:38):
apple sauce. That's the only good thing she made. But
still wonderful woman. My grandpa Hank, a farmer, you know,
goes to church every Sunday. This is how I picture
older people. So why are there so many older people
like this? Well, my grandpa Hank, Grandma Helen went to
church for seventy eighty years. They loved their family for

(09:02):
seventy eighty years, worked hard for seventy eighty years. You
travel down those paths, at the end of it, you
are more wonderful than anyone else because you've been on
the right path for seventy eighty years. How is that disgusting?
Hag celebrating the murder of a thirty one year old
husband and father. She's traveled down a dark path for

(09:26):
seventy eighty years. You don't magically become wonderful when your
hair turns gray and your skin gets wrinkly. It's going
to depend on the paths you take. And that brain dead,
disgusting loser. I guarantee she goes home every single line
and she turns on ABC, NBCCBSCNN, MSNBC and she hears this.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Donald Trump is America's Hitler. Yeah, are unified Reich. That's
Hitler's language. That's not a Americas. He cares about holding
on the power. I care about you.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Donald Trump is acting like a Nazi, talking like a Nazi,
and now posting like a Nazi.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
And by the way, out there that hat that you
keep wearing, that red hat that says make America great again,
that tells people then you go along with this, So
he might well just put a swastiker on the hat.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
Adolf Hitler was interviewed, and I'm quoting from his article
where he was interviewed. He said, therefore, I say America
is for Americans. Stephen Miller took the stage on Sunday evening,
and he said America is for Americans. He is parenting
the exact words of Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
What could you do to Adolf Hitler? What would your
conscience allow you to do to Aidolf Hitler?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Anything? Right?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Shoot him, torture him, beat him. You can do whatever
you want to Aidolf Hitler. Why have they spent years
calling you Hitler, Nazi Hitler, Nazi Hitler, Nazi Hitler, Nazi Hitler. Well,
it's not because they believed it. It's because they understood
their brain dead street animal followers would be programmed by

(11:12):
that kind of language. And now we have legions of
people in this country, many of them women, who believe
the death of their political opponent is preferable.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Who are you gonna kill?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Nazis?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Who do you?

Speaker 10 (11:30):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's in this in this context?

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Who is a Nazi?

Speaker 11 (11:35):
So you're gonna kill Steven Miller?

Speaker 9 (11:36):
I had a chance, you much.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I don't know about someone i'd say on camera, Bro.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
This is a nightmare that I'm living in, and I'm
here to make a difference and to be loud and proud.

Speaker 9 (11:52):
And there's no other way I'd want to celebrate my birthday.
They went there and my best friend fighting for our country.

Speaker 8 (12:00):
Well for a birthday president, What do you hope happens?

Speaker 6 (12:02):
No, you wake up tomorrow morning.

Speaker 9 (12:05):
I hope that I see the obituary that we're all
waiting for tomorrow. That's what I hope for.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah's that President Trump is dead.

Speaker 9 (12:14):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, Okay, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
They think that. The good guys.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
This is how they talk with each other. They'll say
it on camera. You're fighting Nazis. You can do whatever
you want. I will remind you again that we have
not seen the last political assassination, the last political death
in this country. There are simply too many communists who

(12:45):
are violent, who believe that hurting you, hurting the people
you vote for, is a righteous cause, and therefore they
will do it. They will, This will continue. I don't
know how we wade our way through this. It's going
to be a rough patch, all right. All that may
have made you uncomfortable, but I am right if that

(13:08):
saddens you, By the way, let me make it.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
A little easier on you.

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Speaker 2 (14:03):
We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay, So let's have an uncomfortable talk here really quickly.
We've talked about many, many, many things before on the show,
and there's one thing we've talked about.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Many times before, and that's that there.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is a small and getting smaller, a small cabal of
red state GOP senators that are preventing so many amazing things.
The second we start slamming the door shut on communism,
a red state GOP centator will stick his foot in

(14:48):
that door. So we can't ever quite get there. And
so our challenge, your challenge, in my challenge, and it
is going to be a mountain to climb, is going
to be getting these guys out, finally getting these guys
out of office.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
And let's be honest, it's.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Very, very very difficult to primary in defeat an established
GOP senator when it when it, when it comes to
these guys, they're going to raise so much money.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
They're all of the swamps, so they're.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Gonna have a they're gonna have one hundred percent name
mighty and whatever state they're in, they're going to raise
a gargantuane amount of money. And it's just going to
be difficult. They're gonna have a huge amount of control
by the way, over the GOP in that state, the
state GOP. They're just gonna they have so many inroads.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's really really hard to get rid of one of
these guys. And we'll do it, don't get me wrong,
but it's gonna take us years. It won't be next
election cycle.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Years.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
As we slowly but surely work and raise money, and
work and raise money and find good candidates and come
close and lose.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's going to.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Take years, which brings us to Donald Trump. And I
understand that we always have to take the good with
the bad, and that Donald Trump is doing really an
outstanding job in his second term as president. We have
to be fair about that, doing an outstanding job. But

(16:11):
like all human beings, he is imperfect. But imperfect actually
doesn't describe how unbelievably bad he is at endorsing within
the party Lindsey Graham. This this in case you forgot
who Lindsey Graham is.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
This Lindsy Gram.

Speaker 12 (16:32):
So this bill would allow judges to take guns away
from a guy like this before it's too late. My
bill with blimenthal the grant program for red flag laws.
I think we've got in a really good spot with
a White House, but that's just part of the package.
If the Committee decided to say, injuries by one hundred
million dollars your budget, could you spend it wisely?

Speaker 10 (16:54):
I can assure you that any money that this committee
thinks good fifty, I promise it be good. N I
believe you parting the people who went into the cap
and beat up a police officer violently. I think was
a mistake because it seems to suggest that's an okay
thing to do. This idea give up on Ukraine makes

(17:14):
the world safer.

Speaker 12 (17:16):
If you pull the plug on Ukraine because you don't
have enough capability, there goes time walk you and your people.
You're the ally I've been hoping for all my life.
Now what American has died defending Ukraine. You've taken our
weapons and you've kicked her. And I'm very proud to
have you as our ally.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Lindsey Graham has been there sticking his foot in that
door for a very long time. Donald Trump just came
out and announced his first in person fundraiser in twenty
twenty six. Who's it for, Lindsey Graham? And this is

(17:59):
the frustration the swamp, the deep state. They kneecap Donald
Trump every chance they get, Every time they get a
moment to kneecap Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
They do so.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
When Lindsey Graham was there on camera getting to second
base with Christopher Ray, that was while Christopher Ray was
working to undermine Donald Trump the right every chance he got.
The Deep State is after Donald Trump. And Donald Trump
knows this and Donald Trump is frustrated with this. He
yells about it all the time, but then turns around

(18:38):
and endorses it, endorses the people who fill it, endorses
the people who protect it. My frustration is the mountain
we have to climb. Whether whether Trump's involved or not,
it is a very very hard thing to primary a senator.
So that mountain we have to climb is already brutal,
it's cold, tie Donald Trump makes it ten times higher

(19:01):
when he continues to endorse the people he should be opposing.
It makes your life harder. It makes my life harder.
We have red state senators we can remove. We can
get rid of John Cornyn, we can get rid of
Lindsay Graham, we can get rid of James Langford, We
can get rid of these red states John Thune, these

(19:22):
red state GOP senators can be removed.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
If he at least just gets out of the way.
But please.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Stop working against us, Stop working against yourself. When Donald
Trump endorses Lindsey Graham, he works against himself. And that's
a fact. All right, all right, We're going to talk
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Speaker 2 (20:34):
We'll be bad.

Speaker 13 (20:43):
You know. Republicans used to believe that not prosecuting criminals
led to more crime. The answer here is take the
politics out of the decision and in this case, proceed
with the prosecution and do the same for anybody else
who does anything even remotely like it. Read the indictment
and ask yourself, if the government can prove what they

(21:04):
allege here, shouldn't this man go to jail? A simple
fact he had the documents for any reason or no
reason should subject him to prosecution.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
John Bolton is in some very serious trouble.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Joining me now, Miranda Divine host of the wonderful pod
Forced One podcast of course New York Post.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
All right, Miranda, how much trouble was John Bolton? Actually?
And I know I'm biased.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I want to see him go to prison, but I
also don't want to blow smoke.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Is he in bad trouble?

Speaker 11 (21:33):
Hi, Jesse?

Speaker 4 (21:34):
I think he is. I mean, what we've seen so
far in the indictment is also just evidence that's out there,
is that he kept classified information and he was emailing
it to two members of his family. And this was

(21:54):
at a time when he was being hacked by the Iranians,
and when he was being questioned by law enforcement or
intelligence people about what the Iranians might have hacked into.
Apparently he didn't mention that he'd been using this classified

(22:15):
information and emailing it in an insecure manner. So that's
pretty serious, and you, judging by his own metrics of justice,
he should go to jail for a very long time.
I mean, I'm sorry to sort of say that, because
John Bolton previously until he mean, he was always a

(22:40):
neo con and a warmonger, but he was on the
Republican side and really until he joined Donald Trump and
was an abject failure and then became a never Trumper.
I would never have wanted to say such a thing.
But now he's proved himself to be really Trump deranged,

(23:03):
and that really, I guess has nothing to do with
his guilt or otherwise, But the fact is it sort
of mutes any sympathy I might have for him.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Berndick, can you help me? Can you help us?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Everybody understand why do these people do this? This seems
to be so unbelievably common with these people who have
access to national security secrets. They not only take them home,
they share them that they are emailing them.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
What do they get out of this? Why are they
doing this?

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Well, to be fair, I think that there is an
argument that the government has overclassified material and so maybe
some of this stuff isn't really vital to national security,
But there's also just an arrogance with people like John Bolton,
and like Joe Biden is another one who you know,

(24:01):
he would have been pinned for illegally maintaining classified material,
removing it from where it should have been, way back
to his Senate days, and the only reason he got
off scot free was because the special counsel said that
no jury would find him guilty because he's an elderly

(24:22):
They would see him as an elderly man with a
poor memory. And so I think there's arrogance, and I
also think there's ulterior motives that classified information is worth
a lot of money, it's worth trading for. And so
in John Bolton's case, he was writing a book he

(24:43):
wanted to, I guess, use that information to refresh his memory.
And in Joe Biden's case, he also was having a
ghostwriter write his book, and he famously on tape said
to the ghost writer, I think I've got that classified
material right. And also there's no proof of this, but

(25:04):
since he was in bed and his family was making
lots of money from the Chinese and other Russians, Ukrainians,
various the various characters around the world, any classified information
would be very worthwhile to America's adversaries.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
And speaking of Joe Biden, what's this Joe Biden's CIA
cover up story? Because it sure sounds like a really
really big deal.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Which one.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Ah that it's so sad that you even have to
ask that clarifying question, So dirty, so corrupt, I mean,
pick your government agency. We have to decide which particular
scander we're talking about was covering up for Joe Biden. I'm,
of course talking about the most recent one where it
looks like sounds like Joe Biden ordered the Central Intelligence

(25:59):
Agency to drop looking into him.

Speaker 14 (26:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Well, I mean this was an ongoing motive of his
vice presidency and I wrote a whole book about it.
It was the CIA, the FBI in this case. He
wanted this information about the Ukrainians had been talking about

(26:25):
how Joe Biden was coming into Kiev and lecturing them
about corruption, saying corruption is a cancer. When his own
son was on the board of Barisma, and there was
a you know, a spy or a source that the
CIA was informed by that there was a lot of

(26:47):
consternation in Ukraine, that they were angry about this, that
the people close to the then president Poroshenko, Petro Poroshenko
didn't like the fact that Joe Biden was heading into
town telling them what to do about corruption and not
helping them at all. And then basically it was the

(27:08):
Vice President's office, his national security advisor, who said, we
now have an email that shows that he said, oh,
please redact that from the president's daily brief. So it
never went into circulation like it should have, and therefore
America's national security interests were harmed because there are lots

(27:29):
of people who were doing business with Ukraine from the
government at that time, who should have been aware of
these negative feelings from Poroshenko and his inner circle towards
Joe Biden. I mean, it seems obvious now, it should
have really been obvious to them at the time, But
to censor that is shocking. But there's lots of glimpses

(27:55):
into the CIA covering up for Joe Biden. In one example,
more recently, the IRS whistleblowers, then IRS investigators Gary Shapley
and Joe Ziegler wanted to interview Hunter Biden's sugar brother,
Kevin Morris, the Hollywood lawyer who funded him to the

(28:15):
tune of at least seven million dollars, paying off his
tax bills and funding his lavish lifestyle in California. So
they wanted to interview Kevin Morris, obviously he was a
material person, and they were told by prosecutors that Langley
CIA headquarters had summoned the prosecutors and said, hands off

(28:38):
Kevin Morris, you can't even question him. So it's a
big mystery about Joe Biden and why his family's influence
peddling was being protected, encouraged, maybe even certainly covered up
by the CIA, the FBI, the State Department, you name it.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oranda, talk to me about Hunter Biden's shrink because you
just sat down with him on Pod Force one. That
had to be frightening. Honestly, I was going to say fascinating.
They had to be horrifying.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Look, Keith Ablow, Doctor Keith Ablow is very interesting man.
He was Hunter Biden's former shrink. As you say, he's Look,
he's ethical, so he's not discussing with us the secrets
of the shrink couch. But he certainly was able to
sort of diagnose and talk about the things that we

(29:39):
know publicly about Hunter Biden, and so without divulging secrets.
And you know, it does go back to what I've
always thought, I mean, with some sympathy towards Hunter Biden,
that his mother and little sister baby sister were killed
in a car crash where he and his older brother, Beau,
were in the back seat. He was only two and

(30:00):
his brother was three, and that was a very traumatic
moment for him to be stuck in that car and
then he was recovering in hospital, he and his brother
for many months after that, and Joe Biden famously got
sworn in as a senator by their bedside, which was

(30:21):
a very heartrending photograph to go all around the world.
But if you zoom back a bit, you wonder, why
does the father bring the world's media into his son's
hospital room. They've just lost their mother, they're bandaged and
won and he could have done it out in the corridor,

(30:41):
but he has all these photographers and small rooms crammed in,
journalists crammed into this room, completely unnecessary, and that sort
of set the tune for his sort of fake father
of the Year routine that he did from then on.
And I think he was not a good father, and

(31:03):
certainly not to Hunter, and a lot of Hunter's problems
I think come from that, because there's a real love
hate relationship. And it was interesting what doctor Ablow said
about Hunters abandoning all these laptops around the time that
his father was announcing that he was running for president
yet again in April of twenty nineteen. Within weeks of

(31:26):
that date, Hunter Biden had abandoned famously the laptop that
we ended up looking into from Delaware that was dropped
off Hunter dropped off at the laptop repair shop around
the corner from his house in Wilmington. And then but
there was another laptop that not many people know about

(31:48):
that around the same time Hunter abandoned at the Newburyport,
Massachusetts home or guesthouse of doctor Keith Ablow. Hunter was
up there doing a sort of of a drug detox
thing with ketamine unusual therapy, and that's where those famous
photographs come from, where Hunter is sort of squatting in

(32:11):
this sort of sensory deprivation chamber supposedly to get off drugs,
but he's smoking crack and drinking vodka. And so anyway,
that was doctor Keith Ablow's place, and Hunter left his
laptop behind, and doctor Ablow called him repeatedly and texted
him and said come and get your stuff, and it
was not just the laptop but a whole lot of

(32:32):
very expensive clothing and other personal effects, and Hunter just
never never picked it up and never answered. So Keith
Ablow sort of surmises from a psychiatric point of view
that yes, that could be kind of a Freudian situation
where Hunter kind of wanted to jettison well, my theory

(32:57):
was that he wanted to actually dammy to his father's
candidacy because he didn't want his father putting the whole
family through that again. But Keith Hablau said also to
basically jettison his past. He never really wanted to be
part of his father's political life, and so this was
a sort of a symbolic or psychological way of just

(33:21):
getting rid of his entire life and starting afresh. And
as we know, Hunter did start afresh. He went to California,
he met his now wife, got married within a few weeks,
and became an artist.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Miranda, thank you, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
All right, let's talk about the media with the panel next.
Before we talk about that, I told you about master chips.
Of course, I told you about massive ships. I'm a chickman,
as you know, because we already talked about it once
during the show. Massive ships are the greatest, And I
don't have to get I don't have to get the

(34:02):
stink eye for my wife every time I eat some chips,
because these are actually not bad for you, just three ingredients,
multiple flavors. Go get some massive chips in your life,
if I may recommend it, get yourself a little bottle
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Speaker 2 (34:17):
Sauce, your favorite hot sauce. I'm a green sauce man.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
And look, I know it's sports season, Football season, Baseball playoffs,
Massive chip, little dab of hot sauce.

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Speaker 1 (34:31):
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Speaker 2 (34:36):
We'll be back. Their ratings are terrible.

Speaker 12 (34:46):
They are terrible.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
MSNBC is dying, and CNN is dying like a dog,
and punn.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Is so pathetic.

Speaker 13 (34:54):
Give us see their anchors in the evening that nobody
ever heard of them?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Where do these people come? You could?

Speaker 8 (34:59):
I could take anybody off the street.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
In Washington, DC.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
They do a better job us on China?

Speaker 11 (35:04):
Are you considering walking out in rush?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Who are you with?

Speaker 8 (35:07):
Politico?

Speaker 11 (35:08):
Dosha burn Sir?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Politico? Politico has gone mad.

Speaker 14 (35:13):
They've been so wrong about everything political political, It's been
so wrong about everything.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Let's get somebody else to ask us a question.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Do you mind?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Is that all right?

Speaker 12 (35:24):
Political speaks?

Speaker 8 (35:27):
This is she and n speaking.

Speaker 12 (35:28):
By the way, so are you here?

Speaker 13 (35:30):
This is one of the worst reporters that you'll ever
I don't even want to take a question. Was go ahead?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Joining me?

Speaker 10 (35:39):
Now?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
A couple ladies who understand the media well because they've
had to deal with these animals all the time. Virginia Allen,
Senior news producer with the Daily Signal, and Mary Margaret Olahan,
who of course is with the Daily Wire White House correspondent. Okay, uh,
First of all, Mary, Mary Margaret, let's start with you
Media Fest twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
What was it and what happened?

Speaker 11 (36:00):
You know, I'm someone that loves to talk to students.
I know Virginia does as well. We have lots to
share from our reporting, and we'd been asked to be
on this panel and talk to students about faith and
how it intersects with journalism. I'm Catholic, Virginia's Christian, and
we have lots to share on this. We're on the
ground all the time. We've worked hard for years. We
have so much to impart to the next generation, and

(36:22):
unfortunately we were told that we didn't get to do
so because of our beliefs, because we are conservative reporters.
And I would argue because we come from a faith
filled perspective, unlike the rest of the religiously illiterate media.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Okay, Virginia, could you clarify this for me?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
It was a faith panel, but two women of faith
were not allowed on the faith panel.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
What faith is allowed on the panel.

Speaker 14 (36:47):
That's a great question, Jesse. Apparently the major concern that
the organizers of this conference had was that as people
of faith who hold biblical values, they were shocked, shocked
enough to uninvite us that Mary Margaret and I both
hold to a traditional view of marriage, that marriage is
between a man and a woman. Mary Margaret, of course,

(37:08):
has authored an awesome book called d trans I have
a podcast called Problematic Women where we speak very openly
about traditional values, about you know, the biblical definition of marriage.
And the organizers of this conference specifically one gentleman out
of Oregon State University. His name is Stephen Sandberg, and

(37:29):
when they were looking at who's going to speak on
this faith panel, keep in mind he said, you know,
I really take issue with these two women, and in
his words, they're anti LGBTQ views, which in many ways
I take issue with that phrasing because we simply hold
her biblical tradition and belief on marriage, and so in

(37:50):
many ways I wonder how that faith panel turned out
if they were only comfortable having people on a faith
panel that liberal talking points on LGBTQ issues really question
the quality of the kind of speakers that they're bringing
into this conference.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
It almost seems like they have an opposing faith.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Mary Margaret, are you trying to say that the Bible
is against a couple dudes getting married?

Speaker 11 (38:19):
Well, Jesse, I wrote a whole book on how transitioning
is not helping children, and I would actually argue it's
not helping anyone. But that kind of conversation is not
allowed in the journalism world nowadays. When you look at
these types of issues, the only perspective that will be
entertained is that LGBTQ issues are the higher good. You
look at how Glad, the Human Rights Campaign, the Trevor Project,

(38:43):
they tell most journalists how to talk about these issues.
They encourage journalists to say that so called gender affirming
care is a good thing, even for kids. And so
for the majority of journalists out there, there is no
other option when you talk about these issues. It's just
plain and simple. They believe the LGBTQ issues are settled.
They believe that abortion is a good thing, and they

(39:03):
believe that they are far to the left on all
these culture war issues, and that if you're not. You're
just weird and strange and maybe religious, which is hilarious
because the majority of religious Americans who actually practice their faith,
they don't support these kinds of things. They don't want
explicit sex education, they don't want their children being pushed
down a transgender ideology path. They support protecting life. And

(39:26):
so these are the kinds of issues that Virginia and
I have covered for years. We've covered them very honestly,
by the way, we include everybody's perspective when we talk
about abortion. For example, I've interviewed men whose children have
been aborted. I've interviewed women who have aborted their children.
I've asked them all across the aisle how they felt
about these things, how they impacted their lives. I've interviewed
abortionists themselves. But keep in mind the story that they

(39:48):
particularly took issue with that I've done. That they suggested
damage my credibility as a reporter. Was an exclusive I
got from Congress and Brandon Gill about how he was
introducing legislation to ban flushing aborted baby body parts into
our water systems. And I wrote a story on this bill,
and they said that they had objections to it and

(40:09):
to me as a journalist, because I dared even say
what was happening, because I dared even acknowledge that this happens.
And that's the reality of the situation that we have
come to with journalism.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
The weirdos are the people who believe in Jesus, not
the one trying to chop off kids. Penis says, Virginia,
could you explain what is why is faith in journalism?
Why is there any intersection there at all? Shouldn't you
just keep your beliefs separate and shut up?

Speaker 14 (40:37):
I think so much of the media has been told
that for so long, and I'll say a couple of
points on that. For one, we are human beings, and
our faith, our values, I think not only will influence
our reporting, whether we want to admit it or not,
but I would argue, speaking from a Christian perspective, they
should influence our work because when I'm upholding biblical standards,

(41:00):
standards of integrity and authenticity and care for the people
that I'm interviewing to tell stories, well, quite frankly, my
work's just going to be better if I'm keeping in
mind that. You know, at the end of the day,
as a Christian I have an audience of one, and
that's ensuring that my work is up to the highest
standards because at the end of the day, I answer

(41:22):
to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and so all
of our work, all of our media, you know, we
need to keep that and bear that perspective in mind.
And I think that was the perspective that Mary, Margaret
and I were so excited to share with young journalists
who are people of faith. Of Hey, these aren't actually
two separate things. You don't kind of take off your
faith and check.

Speaker 11 (41:42):
It at the door.

Speaker 14 (41:42):
When you walk into your workplace. You bring that with you,
and your work is actually better when you bring it
with you. And you're going to face opposition in the
workplace no matter where you are, you're going to face
opposition in this current media landscape that is so agenda driven.
But your faith can be the thing roots you, that
angers you, that gives you a really, really strong and

(42:03):
powerful foundation. And you know, I think Jesse, especially in
a day and age when young people aren't getting that
on their campus universities because journalism programs across the United
States are so woke and so far left. Conferences like
media Fests actually provide a really beautiful platform to bring
in other perspectives and to show, hey, you can think

(42:25):
about journalism a little bit differently, you can incorporate your
faith to remind young people of that you can be
a conservative and also be a journalist. And yet Media
Fest chose to uninvite two strong faith based journalists because
they simply didn't want our voices present, didn't want our

(42:45):
views present. And Jesse, you know, I think the ironic
thing is also that that individual from Oregon State University,
Steven Sandberg, he ultimately he was the one that raised
those concerns. He ultimately decided not to come and not
to bring any of his students because he felt like
the conference didn't go far enough and correcting the air
of their ways to dare to bring on diverse voices

(43:09):
to speak at this conference, which again I think just
highlights how really radical and the one agenda that the
planners of these conference were trying to seek and fulfill.
And also to bear in mind that you know, next
year this conference is going to face the exact same
pressure from people like the gentleman at Oregon State University,

(43:31):
and so it's really critical that we continue to tell
this story and encourage diversity in media that's representative of
all Americans, not just to select few and the very
liberal enclaves across our country.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, ladies, you probably dodged a bullet by not going
imagine the smell.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Thank you both. I appreciate you. Come we have like
in the move next.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
All right, it's time to lighten the mood. And it's
football season, as you probably know. And look, it was
not long ago when the sports world seemed like it
was completely overrun with communists and the good people were quiet,
keeping their heads down, their mouths shut. Vanderbilt goes out
beats LSU. Their quarterback Diego Pavia, he didn't keep his

(44:28):
head down in.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
His mouth shut.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
Congratulations.

Speaker 12 (44:31):
What was this performance?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Likes for you in this team?

Speaker 6 (44:35):
Well, I feel like, you know, I got a little
overwhelmed in the past few weeks, and I really wasn't
just being myself, you know, and I wasn't really chasing God.
And so he was there to humble me, you know,
and so Ela was there to tell me, like, who
where I was making a mistake, you know, And that's
where I was making a mistake. And I just got
back on pat obviously, no one's perfect, but I just

(44:55):
want to chase him and encourage everyone to chase him.
You know, that's a better life out there.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Kids are gonna be all right. Let's see them all
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