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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Okay, we're going to talk about how the communist looks
at government because Eric holders in the news. We're going
to talk about the FBI. We have an FBI whistleblower here.
We're going to talk to Carol Roth. We have a
pack show tonight on I'm right. It is hard for
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decent people, for good people, to understand how communists think
and why communists say the things they say.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It just is you're a different species.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
A decent, normal person who wants the things you want
is going to have a difficult time relating to a
communist for the same reason they're going to have a
difficult time relating to a lion on the Serengetti. It's
just a different species. And so it's important we try
to as often as we can on this show explain
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why they're saying the things they're saying, because oftentimes, lots
of the times, the right normal people, decent people, you me,
we can get wrong. We'll hear them say something and
will think, wow, they're being what a hypocrite? That's a
huge one though. Wright loves to say that about the communists.
So they're being hypocritical. How could he say that? That's
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so hypocritical. A great example of this is Barack Obama's
infamous Attorney General, Eric Holder, committed communist America hater Eric Holder.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Eric Holder went on the.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
News, he's talking about all this DOJ stuff. Now, before
we get to Eric Holder, this DOJ stuff looks serious.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I don't know whether anyone's going to go to prison.
I'm not here to tell you that. I'm not here
to get your hopes up.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But it's very clear this task force is taking this
Russia hoast stuff seriously. They're coming through records, they're talking
about indictments. We'll get to that in a few Eric
Holder went on the news and he said this, and this.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Administration has used the Justice Department, has used the power,
the investigatory power of the Justice Department, to target political
opponents of the president. I mean, you've seen Donald Trump
talk about a whole range of things most ridiculous to
talk about the possibility of indicting, prosecuting for treason Barack Obama.
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I mean, you know, these are dangerous kinds of things
that this president is talking about. And I'm really concerned
that this Justice Department under BONDI, under Patel, will do
things that are inconsistent with the traditions of the Department.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Now this is where you if you haven't seen that before,
I already know what's going through your head right now.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
What the DEO j under Joe Biden just did, all that,
they already politicized the whole thing when they went after
Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
How could he say that? What a hypocrite?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, remember when Kamala Harris said, this.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Is the Department of Justice against his political enemies, ground
up peaceful.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Protesters and prove them out of our country.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
And even quote turning the United States. You've got someone
who has said that if he were back in office,
he would weaponize the Department of Justice, someone who has
openly applauded insurrectionists as patriots, someone who has said that
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they will go after their political enemies.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Again, it's very tempting to see things like that and say,
what a hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That's hypocritical. That's what you guys are doing. Very tempted.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But let's have a talk once again about communism itself.
If you think of communism as a political ideology, a
political stance, you can never and will never understand these
people why they think the way they think, why they
say the things they say, it will always be beyond you.
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If you understand that it is a religion, communism makes
way more sense. And it's not just that communism is
a religion. It is one of those, and there have
been and will always be many of those. It is
one of those religions that does not share space with
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other religions. And look, I'm not going to indict this
religion or that religion. Obviously there are a million that
could pop into your head.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Islam is a great example.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
If you go to an Islamic country and that is
the law of the land, you will often find that
over time the Christians will be purged and removed from
the country. Not all the time, but oftentimes Jews purged
and removed from the country. Why is that it's more
of a exclusive religion where not only do they believe
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in only that everything else has to be eliminated. That's
exactly how communists think they are not only the chief religion,
all other religions should be purged. How does this pertained
to what we're talking about here when it comes to
the forces of government, the FBI, dj CIA, whatever, Irs,
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doesn't matter what it is. Eric Holder wasn't being hypocritical
when he said, I'm worried they're going to use these things.
In Eric Holder's mind, well, the DOJ should enforce the.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
One true religion of the land, the.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, in Eric Holder's mind, in
Kamala Harris's mind, in the mind of the communists.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
That should be their chief goal.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It's not the hunt down child predators, or secure the border.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Or enforce the law.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
The communist never thinks about that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
The whole point of these organizations should be to protect
and move forward the communist revolution.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
He's not being hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He believes you should be thrown in a cage for
being a Republican. And he also believes, he genuinely believes it,
that it is an absolute outrage if you do the
same thing to him for being a democrat, because there
should be only one religion in the government, his sick,
demonic religion. And look, there's another part about what he
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just said. I'm going to rewind and ask the producer
Matt to go ahead and bring this up again. There
was another part of what he just said that is
so revealing and it should make all of us on
the right. It should make all of us a little
bit of shame. This is what he said.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
These are dangerous kinds of things that this president is
talking about. And I'm really concerned that this Justice Department
under Bondie, under Patel will do things that are inconsistent
with the tradition of the department.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They'll do things that are inconsistent with the traditions of
the department. That's an interesting way up, But that isn't it.
What traditions would he be talking about. What traditions would
Eric Holder have grown accustomed to, and now he sees
those traditions being broken.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, it's quite simple.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's this tradition, the tradition of the American Left, of
the American communist is when they take power, government power,
any power. But we're just going to make it about
government for now. When they take government power, they view
it as a vehicle to push forward the communist revolution,
and they will use government power in every imaginable way,
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in every way they can possibly get away with, until
the courts or the public stop them. They will use
government power against their polic opponents. It's just how the
communist thinks government powers should be used. And they will
violate every law without a second thought every norm you
name it, that's what he thinks it should be used as.
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And what he's gotten used to is he will do that.
He will take over, Joe Biden will take over the presidency.
He'll open up the border. He'll soe to keep the
border open. He'll import as many barbarians as humanly possible.
He will send the DOJFBI after pro lifers, he'll write
down he'll put domestic school board moms on the domestic
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terrorists list, you name it.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
He'll do the most.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Horrible, evil, lawless things in the world. And in his mind,
that's how it always operates, and we never.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Respond in kind.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That is the.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Real tradition Eric Holder is talking about here. The American democrat,
the American communist has gotten used to a system where
he can operate like a rabbit animal and when the
right takes over, will do the But what was that,
Bill Barr said, not a tip for tad.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Those who broke the laws will be held to account.
But this cannot be and it will not be a
tit for tat exercise. We are not going to lower
the standards just to achieve a result.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You may like the sound of that. You know who
else loves it. The Communists. We're not gonna lower ourselves.
We're gonna be to a higher standard. We're better than that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
The communist animals who abuse this country, abuse the law,
abuse their government positions. They love that way of thinking
because they know when they're in charge, they will loot
the treasury, pillage the house. When we take over, We're
not gonna do a tit for tad. We certainly don't
want to punish you guys. No no, no, no, no, no, no punishment.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Just let me just let me clean things up.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I wouldn't want to lower myself to your level.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
The Communist has grown accustomed to that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's the only way I've ever known America to operate
in my forty four years on this planet. The animals
go crazy. The right takes over and tries to be
the adults. We're going to do it the right way.
But all that does is encourage the Communists to do
worse and worse and worse things. And that's why, over
the course of your life, no matter how old you are,
you've watched them escalate, haven't you.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Why is that.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
They'll do They'll do this under Jimmy Carter and that's bad, right,
But then but then the next time we get Bill
Clinton and he does even more. But then after Bill Clinton,
Barack Obama continued eight years, does even more. And then
Joe Biden gets in and it was just flow out
communist dictatorship for four years. We have the American president
threatening us with our jobs. Why are they only escalating.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Because we are always about it? No tip for that here.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
They always escalate because there's never a punishment for doing
the horrible things they've done. And look, I don't want
to get your hopes up from my hopes up. But
when the Director of the CIA, John Ratcliffe, goes on
Fox News and says this, my hopes are getting up.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
So what I think I hear you saying is there
is still an opportunity for indictments, potential prosecutions, accountability from
those people who may have lied under oath, like John Brennan,
James Comy, and perhaps Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Well, that's why I've made the referrals that I have,
dn I Gabbard has made referrals, and why we're going
to continue to share the intelligence that would support the
ability of our Department of Justice to make fair and
bring fair and just claims against those who have perpetrated
this hoax against the American people and this stain on
our country.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Again, I want to reinforce something I've been telling you,
something I'm going to repeat again and again. I don't
know that somebody powerful is going to burn for all this.
I know that they deserve it. I know that it
is necessary. If nobody burns for all this, then we
will have accelerated our end date as a nation. I
really do mean that the American people have had enough,
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is sick of it. So I don't know that anyone's
going to burn. I know they should, But I also
know this. This appears so far to have a level
of seriousness I have never seen before. When the Director
of National Intelligence, Tulsa Gabbard, when she gets a stack
of declassified papers and walks into the Department of Justice,
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walks into Pam Bonni's desk and says, there, there's your
crimes prosecute. When the director of the Central Intelligence Agency
does the same thing, Hey, I've made a referral, here's
a stack of papers. I declassified them. Prosecute. That sure
sounds like they're taking it deadly serious. John Brennan's all
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over TV. I think he knows they're taking it seriously.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Soulci Gabbard.
Speaker 10 (12:58):
You know she may be impaired on the ethics front, certainly,
but she's not impaired on the inflect front, and so
I can only presume that she is doing this intentionally,
intentionally mischaracterizing, misrepresenting, and lying about what she has found.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
John Brennan is already attempting it looks like to me
to try his criminal case, Lord Willing in the public square.
I would imagine that you will see John Brennan on
TV for a while until his two thousand dollars an
hour lawyers tell him to shut his freaking mouth. But
from everything I'm hearing, I think John Brennan might be
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the low hanging fruit in this whole thing. Enjoy your
time on TV, John, All that may have made you uncomfortable,
But I am right one of those FBI whistleblowers, those
brave souls, is about to join us in a moment.
We'll talk about some things. Before we talk about some things,
let me talk to you about putting your money where
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you're worlds are. It's not only government power the Communist
believes in using. They on purpose conquered Corporate America because
they saw all the money and power Corporate America had,
so they infiltrated the HR departments, the board rooms, and
soon you have the gigantic cell phone companies Veri's in
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Speaker 2 (14:53):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
The president has been set. I can show you Donald
Trump's mugshot. The second the communists took power, they had
Donald Trump arrested in every jurisdiction in the United States
of America. They tried to blow his head off and
send him to prison for ninety years. So don't tell
me president's former presidents are untouchable, No, sir. The president
of the United States of America cook the books on
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his orders of intelligence in order to create a false
narrative about the incoming president who was about to be
sworn in. He used a Central Intelligence Agency like it
was the DNC. He used the FBI like it was
the DNC, He used the DNI like it was the DNC.
Politicking with his office.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
That is a.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Crime so severe Barack Obama should never see the light
of day again. He deserves a trial, a fair trial,
a public trial, because that's what the American people deserve.
And then he deserves to go to prison for the
rest of his natural life. And not just because I
hate him, but because the next time we get a
scumbag like that in the Oval office, he has to
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look at Barack Obama roddingg and Fort Leavenworth and say
to himself, well, I guess the CIA probably isn't my
political arm, so maybe I should back off of that
this moment. I'm not just saying this for radio purposes.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Is everything for this.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, there's one thing to want it, and there's one
thing for Reed to run my mouth on TV about it.
It's another thing entirely to actually get it. And as
I've explained, I'm a little jaded on that joining me. Now,
my friend, somebody probably a little bit more jaded than
I am. FBI whistle blower co host of the American
Radicals podcast, Steve Friend. Okay, Steve, I'm not naive enough
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to think that Barack Obama's going to JO. I understand
the way our country works, the way accountability works here,
and I've explained that to people.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
But in your mind is any.
Speaker 11 (17:02):
This is my tremendous concern here because you just got
to go back about three weeks to when the DOJ
effectively punted on the Epstein question, when we had a
fundamental question there, and it's outside of the even the
abuse of children question, which should be a borned and
disgusting to everyone, But the fundamental question there was do
we in fact have a two tiered system of justice
where the rest of us get held accountable for things
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we even didn't do if we took a guide tour
through the Capitol and the elite pedophile rapists can just
do whatever they want to whoever they want. And the
DOJ effectively voted present, so we didn't get that answer adjudicated.
Now we have a second bite of the apple here,
and my concern is perhaps this is an effort afoot
by the Department of Justice, by the FBI to get
off the X get out of the spotlight from the
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Epstein concerns. But what they've done now is paid themselves
in another corner, because the same question exists, do we
have a two tiered system of justice? And the onus
is on the Department of Justice to provide us that
answer and go forward with an effective and smooth and
quick investigation.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Because check your.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
Calendars here, it's already at the end of July twenty
twenty five. We don't have the time to wait for
years on end until a fair who knows not Joseph
is back in the White House and turning the FBI
and his political enemies.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Okay, Steve, let's rewind and actually this chronologically then the
Epstein stuff. What is your take on the over promising
and the under delivering. I have a theory, and it's
only a theory. I don't have any intel on this.
That Trump knew his name was in there, whether it
was added after the fact, which I believe or not.
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Trump knew his name was in there, he knew something
else was coming. He wanted to move people off of
it and say, hey, drop this thing and let it go.
But that's just my theory.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
What's your take.
Speaker 11 (18:48):
I think that's a fair theory, and it's completely plausible
because we had a lame duck period after Donald Trump
was elected president the second time, and we know for
a fact from other whistleblowers like my buddy Garrett A. Boyle,
that there were documents being destroyed over.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
At the FBI.
Speaker 11 (19:01):
Who's to say that they weren't manipulated. But I want
to go back to what you mentioned about having promises,
making promises of having a deliverable and then on a
specific delivery date and not doing that. And it's not
limited to just Epstein. We were promised information about the
January sixth involvement from personnel at the FBI, about the
January fifth slash six pipe bomber, about the Dobbs League,
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about the White House cocaine. The list just seems to
go on and on and they're failing to deliver on
these and kind of come around to the belief that
the word transparency is a code word for people on
the GOP and the MAGA, I mean the liberal and
the Democrat and the communists. They like to use democracy.
That's their code word for things I like. If you
don't like what I like, you don't like democracy. My
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fear is that transparency has the exact same hold for
the MAGA right in this country, where they claim to
be transparent, but they're not really being transparent with what
we want them to be. And that should be enormously
concerned and goes because there will never be a time
where they're in charge forever. This is the opportunity to
actually turn this stuff over and.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
To the Epstein.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Stuff like if Donald Trump is in fact on that
list or one of his buddies, or if there's foreign
relations or intelligence purposes, whatever the justification is for not
turning that information over, you have to end that justification
with the following phrase. So that's why I let the
elite pedophile rapists go free, and you cannot sign me
up for that culture or that country. I don't care
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if it destroys our culture. I don't care if it
destroys our country. Our culture in our country deserve to
go down the toilet bowl.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
If that and the fact is true, Steve, would you
explain before we move back to the other subject, would
you explain in a law enforcement some got of experienced
in this is terms why there's not an.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Actual list for people.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You know, we like to use that term, but there's
boxes and boxes of files, but not a list.
Speaker 11 (20:50):
Well, that would be a work product, a list. I mean,
I don't think that Jeffrey Epstein kept a rolodex where
he said, these are the pedophile cohorts that I have,
and I like to maintain this. And this would be
a work product that would be generated by investigators going
through and looking and cataloging the video and the travel
footage and doing conducting interviews and subpoenating records, and it
would be collected and you would have a list of
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individuals who are of interest or potentially criminal masterminds or
engaging in filonious activity. It would essentially be derivative of
a proper investigation. It's not like any sort of black
book existed, and if they did, he would possibly be
the worst criminal of all time. I mean, you don't
take notes of the criminal conspiracy unless you want to
go to prison.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
All right, let's switch back to the other big old
mess on our hands. James Comey's catching a bunch of
flat right now, and I mean, who knows whether he
goes down or not, but it almost bothers me that
it seems like Christopher Wray is missing all this stuff,
as if he didn't have anything to do with any
of it.
Speaker 11 (21:52):
Christopher Ray, apparently he's Voldemort. We can't say his name anymore.
And look, I just want to raise the concern that
all of the whistleblowers who came forward during Joe Biden's administration,
we're all complaining about events that were going on during
the Christopher Ray tenure at the FBI, which leads me
to a couple of different suspicions. When cash Bertel Dan
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Bongino got into leadership, they were completely bubble wrapped and
ensconced by people who are there and whispering sweet nothing
to their ear, saying let's go show you the James
Comy room. Because he was sort of outside the statue
of limitations, not really grabbable. But Christopher Ray, we have
radical traditional Catholic intelligence products, we have the January sixth abuses,
we have parents at school board meetings being surveiled. All
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of this is at his feet, and he has lied
and provably so perjured himself. I want his name out there,
and he's just sort of evaded attention I'm glad you
brought it up.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Okay, the FBI.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I know there are a lot of very evil people
still working inside of that building, There's no question about it.
Have we gotten rid of any of them? Have there
been any positive reforms? Have you you've seen anything good
coming from inside of that building?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Please tell me yes.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
Well, when it comes to the personnel matters, they certainly
have gone the exact opposite direction of what I was
like to see, and that would be the promotion of
Stephen Jensen, who was the effective warlord of January sixth,
the section chief of the Domestic Terrorism Operations Section. He
architected how the FBI did that entire thing. He's been
promoted multiple times. He's now the assistant director in charge
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of the Washington Field Office.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I have it on good authority.
Speaker 11 (23:27):
He's actually going to be promoted again back into headquarters situation.
Brian Driskell, who was the acting director before Cash Motel
took the helm, who refused to hand over the list
of personnel who were involved inappropriately so with January sixth
to the Department of Justice.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
He's been promoted.
Speaker 11 (23:42):
Spencer Evans, who went after personnel who refused to get
the experimental gene Jews jabbed into their arm. He's been
promoted and moved over to headquarters. So this list continues
to grow. It's tremendously concerning, and I can only throw
it back to the most benign, innocent reason for that
is and I think that there was an erroneous approach
as it came to leadership when Cash and Dan got
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in there, and they went in trying to win hearts
and minds with the presupposition falsely that a lot of
good men and women work at the FBI and they
just need to be restored to rigorous obedience to the Constitution.
But unfortunately they've been weighed, measured and found wanting in
that regard, and they just stood by and just followed orders.
And they are the snakes behind the scenes that are
effectively getting those guys distracted from their job of delivering
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on the mandate the American people sent last November of
wanting this agency brought to heal and completely de weaponized.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Steve PAMBONDI, I know that she's been disappointment, to put
it mildly, so far, but do we think that she
has what it takes to take down a powerful John
Brennan James comy.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Does she have what it takes.
Speaker 11 (24:48):
Well, she already passed on the Epstein stuff three weeks ago.
I don't think she gets a second bite of the
apple here, particularly because it involves her boss, the President
of the United States, and the fact that the Apartment
of Justice and the Intelligence Committee tried to run a
coup against his first presidency. This is her opportunity and
it cannot be We're going to bring on a special prosecutor.
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We're going to drag this out to twenty twenty nine.
At the end of the day, it'll be too late
to do anything, because that's always how it is, just
so conveniently. The American people deserve answers on this specific
Russia Gate matter, and they deserve them in a timely fashion,
in a way that we can actually adjudicate justice and
answer the question of do we have this two tiered
system of justice or not? And if the answer is yes,
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then she's a top an agency that is in charge
of that two tiered system. And that should be something
that we are all fearful of, because you never know
whose hands are going to fall into next.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Steve, Thank you brother.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
As always, Donald Trump just dunked on the Brits to
their face today and it was freaking awesome. It was hilarious.
Talk about that in a moment before we talk about that.
Stop stop using old olive oil. I am well aware
that you haven't put a second of thought into the
kind of olive oil you use.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It was the exact same, Mike, I get it. You
grab whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Bottles in the grocery store, you go home, you leave
it on your counter for ten years, and whenever you
need some olive oil, you dump it in there and
you never think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I understand that completely.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, try one bottle fresh from a farm and you'll
be mad at yourself. That's the best way I could
describe it. I had no idea that much flavor could
be added to food with fresh olive oil. All mine
was always old. I mean we're talking years old. It's
years old. When you buy it in the grocery store
at farm fresh two four six dot com fresh olive
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oil fresh from a farm, they'll send you a thirty
nine dollars bottle free so you can see what I'm
talking about. You pay like a buck to cover the ship.
Farm fresh two four six dot com will.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Be back.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
All right, let's discuss the hilarious meeting Trump had today
with Cure Starmer, the PM of the UK. Now, I
guess I should explain someone going to take a couple
of minutes here.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Why I like this so much.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I view the United States of America as the beacon
of freedom. I know that may sound cliche or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I just do.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
We are not only the number one.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Country in the world in every possible measure, we are
a free country.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Relatively. We're a free country.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And so that, in my mind comes with the responsibility
that we use our incredible power to spread that kind
of freedom every where we can, across the globe. And
so when an American president meets with a foreign leader,
especially a foreign leader who is violating the freedoms, violating
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the rights of his people, I want I expect the
American president to be that beacon of freedom and to
talk to him about it. I like that the President
is bold enough to sit down with the PM UK
and say this on camera.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's just the impulsance of free speech today.
Speaker 12 (28:15):
Well, free speech is very important.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I don't know if you're referring.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
To any place in particular, perhaps they are, but.
Speaker 12 (28:20):
We've had free speech for a very very long time.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Here.
Speaker 12 (28:23):
We're very proud about.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
That Trump Not exactly, mister Subtley. I mean, I don't
know which place you're talking about. And of course they
don't have free speech. You get thrown in jail for
a Facebook post. That's not free speech, that's not freedom
at all. And every time there's an evil communist, whether
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they have a British accent or not, they always sell
their censorship efforts, their crushing of people's freedoms, as an
effort to protect the people. And you really know they're
selling it hard when they talk about protecting the kids.
Speaker 13 (29:00):
There are new powers here to censor your site States Monday.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
To to censor your site on Twitter and Facebook.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I mean, truth is that okay?
Speaker 7 (29:10):
I don't think because I say only good things that
you please, we're.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Not censoring anyone. We've got sub measures which are there
to protect children.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Of course, well there to protect children. Don't you want
us to protect children? That's how they do it. But look,
you heard me talk like this before a few months
ago when the JD vance went overseas. And you can
dislike this all you want, you can say it's mean.
You can say it's confrontational. This is what I want
from the leaders of America.
Speaker 13 (29:43):
Okay, I said what I said, which is that we
do have, of course a special relationship with our friends
in the UK and also with some of our European allies,
but we also know that there have been infringements on
free speech that actually affect not just the British, of
course what the British ca in their own country is
up to them, but also affect American technology companies and
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buy extension American citizens. So that is something that we'll
talk about today at launch.
Speaker 12 (30:08):
We've had pretty speech for a very very long time
in the United Kingdom and it will last for a
very very long time.
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Well done.
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Speaker 2 (31:16):
We'll be back. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
So what's the nitty gritty on what happened today with
the EU? What even is the EU? What's with these
fifteen percent tariffs? I don't know any of these questions.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I don't have to. That's why I know.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Carol Roth joining me now, two time New York Times
best selling offer.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I'm not going to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Carol Roth, also recovering investment banker. Carol, what just happened
with the EU today? Besides Donald Trump dunking on Starmer
on camera, there was something tangible that happened.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
What was it?
Speaker 14 (31:55):
Well, of course, anytime you hear something from Donald Trump,
it's very exciting and it's the best thing ever. And
so what is in reality the framework of a possible
trade deal?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Now, it's interesting.
Speaker 14 (32:09):
We like to celebrate these things, and certainly I will
celebrate that things.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Are not escalating.
Speaker 14 (32:15):
The challenge is that we are the ones that started
the escalation. So it's sort of like an arsonist burning
down your house, putting out the fire and going, oh,
look I saved your house, and now we all need
to celebrate it. So we've created this problem, and now
we seem to have potentially solved the problem, or at
least have the framework to solve the problem, Jesse, And
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the details sort of remain to be seen.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
What we've heard so far, I think is a mixed bag.
Speaker 14 (32:42):
There are certainly some areas where it sounds like consumers
and businesses in the US are going to have zero
percent tariffs on things that they import, which is exciting,
But there are other areas where that may go up to,
as you mentioned, fifteen percent, And given the fact that
tariffs on imports previously we're about one and a half
to two percent, that means in those particular areas that
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businesses and consumers could end up paying more. There are
other areas that maybe even more than that, and there
are certain things that they haven't quite figured out yet.
So the art of the deal continues on. But the
good news, if you want to take away something to
celebrate is that it doesn't sound like it's going to
get worse anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Okay, Carol, let's zoom out for a minute on a
much more macro level. We all know Donald Trump's feelings
on China, on our manufacturing being in China, on buying
things from and I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
This is what everyone knows Trump talks about China.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I got all that are Trump's trade deals that you
see right now. Do you think this isn't an effort
to economically isolate China.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I think that.
Speaker 14 (33:54):
There are probably a number of different competing interests, and
I think it depends on the day of what it
is that the Trump administration is trying to do. On
one hand, they do want to isolate China or China
as the case may be, and take away some of
their economic power. That being said that we are very
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very dependent upon them, especially in critical areas where we
do not have the ability to day to make that
conscious uncoupling as it may be. Now, I'm saying that,
I'm not saying that we shouldn't go ahead and try
to do that, and we should try to find other sources.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
But this is a long term process, and.
Speaker 14 (34:37):
So that's why there is this little bit of a
dance back and forth because we cannot completely decouple ourselves
from China or frankly many other countries around the world
meaningfully today without it impacting our economic and national security.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So much like Eric Swallow, we shouldn't have coupled with
China to begin with, but I did.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So how long.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Does it take now, Carol, or how long should it
take to uncouple?
Speaker 14 (35:09):
Well, you know, if it was a company, it would
probably be a couple of years minimum for them to
be able to do it a big company. But it's
a country, and we have all of this political theater
and red tape that we need to get through. Plus
we have a changing over in Congress every couple of
years and at the White House level every four to
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eight years. So it makes it very difficult. Where China
can think about decades or even some cases centuries, for us,
we have all of these these shifts and changes that
make it very difficult to.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Execute the strategy.
Speaker 14 (35:44):
I was reading a piece of economic research over the
weekend from Luke Grohman, and he said it very well
that America is very good at creating the narratives and
the marketing and the announcements, but we aren't so great
at execution, and unfortunately, execute is what is going to
win the day. So you know, if I were being
an advisor here, I would certainly focus on the areas
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that are most critical, those things that impact our defense,
our national security, things like pharmaceuticals, you know, really critical
infrastructure areas, and I wouldn't worry about kind of all
the other goods and services that you know, there's always
going to be some level of international trade on. So
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I think hopefully over time that's kind of how this
plays out, but certainly for the for the short term,
it's going to take a longer term to be able
to sort this stuff out when it comes to the
country level politics.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Okay, so that brings me to the actual individual every
person watching this. Grocery prices are still too high. The
prices of everything are still too high, Caroll. Realistically, are
we going to see these things come down? I mean,
I realize inflation shot through the roof under Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
It is not massively dropped so far will it? Can it?
Speaker 14 (37:09):
So we talked about this a lot under the Biden administration,
and inflation is a measure of growth. So when you
have a slowing of the growth rate, it doesn't mean
you have what's called deflation, which is prices going down.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
And I think that a lot of people are confused
on that.
Speaker 14 (37:27):
We have seen that rate of growth certainly slow, but
you're not going to find things that are cheaper because
we're not having deflation. And that's also accompanied by a
whole host of problems. So until people's wages start to
catch up to these increases in the cost of living
that we saw over the last four years, I think
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that Americans are going to feel a world of hurt.
And my concern is, given our fiscal foundation and particularly
the mess that the Biden administration left us in terms
of deficits to GDP, debt to GDP, and interest and
so on, that any solution to try to tackle that
is going to only reignite inflation down the road. So
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I do have concerns that we are not only not
going to see a shift in the short term where
people are feeling relief, but it actually may get much
worse before it gets better. But there are sort of
no good options, so we need to pick the path
with the least amount of pain, and it's still going
to be painful.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Okay, So what about growing our way at least partially
out of this mess? And I know, moron wash I am,
but I understand well enough that every time you get
some big spending politician who doesn't want to cut spending
at all, which is basically all of them, they all
just say, well, we'll grow our way out of it.
So that's the line they all the big spenders love
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to use. But can we grow our way out of it?
Speaker 14 (38:56):
So it's certainly possible, but it would take a lot
of you know, things to line up and happen that
I don't see happening. We would need massive deregulation and
text cuts that are you know, more significant than what
we just codified. And given the fact that a lot
of what we just codified, you know, existed previously, really
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new tax cuts that are going to drive a lot
of growth. I think that's one issue. If we had
some sort of a productivity or energy miracle, let's say,
you know, some some kind of crazy development on the
energy front, that's something that could really propel us forward quickly.
But again, given our electrical grid, given our lack of
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workers in key areas like you know, electricians and welders
and things like that. Given a regulatory environment and given
all of the bickering in Washington, I think that that's
going to be harder to see happen.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
So we do need.
Speaker 14 (39:55):
To continue to pound the table on growth and remove barriers.
I would argue that having terriers or tariffs for a
small business things like that put up more barriers. So
if we want to grow our way out, we need
to get start getting rid of these things, not putting
up more of them. But I don't think that that
is going to work on its own. And certainly it
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can lessen the pain that we're talking about, but there's
a possibility and a probability. And when I tell you, Jesse,
I'm not a betting woman.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
I'm not someone who likes to go to Vegas or anything.
Speaker 14 (40:26):
If I if I had the opportunity to take the
bet and say we're going to see this this energy
miracle or something that helps us grow our way out
of this, I put my money on saying not going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Here was Trump and Jerome Powell last week.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Like I just got a long way to go.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
There are there things a chirming can say to you
today that would make you back off some of the
earlier criticisms.
Speaker 10 (40:52):
Well, I'd love him to lower interest Other than that,
what can I tell.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
You is it going to lower interest?
Speaker 14 (41:01):
Well, first of all, I'm waiting for the for Trump
to turn the FED into a golf course and you know,
a hotel or something like that.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
I feel like when you.
Speaker 14 (41:09):
See him walking with the Powell through that office and
you can see it, like the light's going off, like ooh,
I could see something really nice going on here. In
terms of lowering interest rates. We do have a FED
meeting this week, and if at the beginning of the year,
if you had said, hey, let's look to July, you know,
what's the outlook for July. I think a lot of
people were thinking that this is a meeting where you
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might see a rate cut. However, I today, a couple
days before that meeting, do not believe we are going
to see a rate cut, and the FED has been
pretty good about telegraphing their intentions ahead of time. I
don't think that they are going to surprise, which means
now everybody's going to be looking to September. Part of
the issue is actually good economic news Jesse. We've had
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strong retail sales, We have fairly solid labor. We have
the stock market, even though it's not exactly the economy,
but still it's a measure that it's looked at. It
is hitting all time highs every week. So it's very
difficult for somebody to make the argument that FED policy
is holding back the economy when you're getting data like that.
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And I think that with that and the concerns over
tariffs and what's ahead, unfortunately, the FED is probably not
going to cut now. Personally, do I think that they
could cut I do. I think that they could take
a full percent and that would not ignite inflation, and
that they have a lot of room to maneuver given
the history of where interest rates had been and how
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many businesses and consumers.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
Took down debt.
Speaker 14 (42:38):
I think it would actually probably be a little bit
of a relief. But the expectation is that's probably not
happening this week, and then we'll look for language to
see what's going to happen in September.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I guess fingers crossed. Thank you, Carol, I appreciate it.
We have an amazing enlightening moon next. All right, it
is time to lighten the mood and I'm going to
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do the best I can, as I always do, to
be extremely nice here. But Rush Limbaugh had a great line.
He had many of them, but he had such a
great line where he said, politics is for ugly people.
There's Hollywood for ugly people. That's the line. Politics is
Hollywood for ugly people. And obviously it's a funny line,
it's a true line. But I don't know that I've
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ever seen a better example of this than Eric Swalwell.
And I'm not talking about his physical appearance. But Eric Swalwell,
that dork congressman from California, the one who had an
affair with the Chinese spy, the one who farted on camera,
the one who repeatedly uses the most cringe lame lines ever.
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He put out something this weekend. In honestly, the whole
thing made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Who it was.
Speaker 15 (44:04):
I should be working right now. I should be in Congress.
I should be voting to lower your costs. But instead
I'm in a pool because Republicans sent everyone home because
they don't want to release the epstein Flas. We could
be working to lower your costs, make sure healthcare is affordable,
and make sure we're restoring the rights.
Speaker 16 (44:21):
Of everyone in our committee. I should be working right now.
I should be working right now. I should be at
the Capitol. I should be in a suit.
Speaker 17 (44:36):
Instead, Republicans sent us home because they would rather stand
up for Donald Trump than release the Epstein files and
stand up for victims. We could be at Washington, DC,
lowering your healthcare costs, lowering your grocery costs, and restoring
your rights.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
I should be working right now.
Speaker 17 (44:54):
Instead, I'm probably n Iron at the gym.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
This is why I'm telling you right now, this is
why the Chinese targeted him with the Chinese honey pot spy,
because look, you could see that Eric Swalwell is a
massive nerd from across the Pacific Ocean. And this dork
has probably been a dork his entire life and made
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fun of and all of a sudden, you're at a
bar one night and some hot Chinese chick comes up
to you and you don't have.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
A chance to say no. That's why I'm telling you
I'll see them all