January 25, 2025 • 43 mins
The United States military has been rotting from the inside for too long, says Jesse Kelly. But there's reason for optimism with President Donald Trump back in office. What will it take to return the U.S. military to its former glory and not what we saw in Afghanistan under the Biden administration? Join Jesse and his panel of military minds to find out.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Have you ever done one of those mental experiments, or
or read a book, or maybe watching a documentary of
a war from the other person's side, from the other
person's perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I love this stuff, not that I try to have
sympathy for the enemies of my country, but I've read
these accounts before. I've read Vietnamese accounts of what it
was like with American bombers overhead. There are several still surviving,
as you can imagine, Japanese.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Accounts of what it was like there.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So obviously we're about to talk about the United States military,
but I want to talk about this really quickly because
it explains why I'm so passionate about having a strong
military and why I am so terrified at the rot
that has taken place inside of ours. If you read
a Japanese account of being bombed, you know, everyone knows
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about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but those are honestly a tiny
fraction of how much bombing we did in Japan. Virtually
every major city, not every major city, but pretty much every.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Major city in Japan. We reduced it to rubble.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And to hear the accounting of what it's like when
you could hear the planes coming. Am I going to
make it to the bomb shelter in time? My kids
there at school. I hope they got out, Okay, I
won't know till well, who knows when. Maybe that bomb
got them, Maybe it'll get me. The terror that it
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sounds horrifying to have a foreign army come into your
country and bomb you to powder. And then the training,
the fear they felt when they thought we were going
to invade, because we were going to invade, and if
they hadn't surrendered, the absolute abject terror. You're a woman
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doing bamboo spear training with your children, that level of terror,
But that can happen here. You realize that we here
in the United States of America, we have been blessed,
no matter how old you are watching me right now,
if you're ninety five or five, the entirety of your life,
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we've been untouchable in that regard. Number One biggest, baddest
military in the world, two gigantic oceans on each side.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, we may lose.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Something here or there, or a regional conflict, we may
get attacked, but no one's ever coming to the homeland.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
We're never going to lose a major war.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
We always win those. We're two for two, after all.
But that's not true. Every society in history they've gotten really,
really strong, the big ones, they've gotten really strong on
the backs of their military, and the citizens in the
those societies convinced themselves for the longest time that they
could never be beaten, that they were untouchable. Our military
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always wins, but that is not how history goes. Eventually,
you send that invincible army off to war and it
doesn't come back again. And you wake up one morning
looking around saying, wait, what that can't happen. How could
that have happened? Well, let's talk about how could that
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have happened. It's happening right now in front of your eyes.
How can a military so big, so powerful, so invincible,
how could it ever be beaten? Well, things like Afghanistan
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an image an international videos seen so many times around
the globe, so representative of the international embarrassment brought to
us by the Biden administration. The American military waking up
one day and just decide, and we're leaving, and the
Sea one thirty goes scurrying off the runway in international
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disgrace and embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What a spit in the face. It is of the.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Men and women who gave their blood and their lives
and that country for twenty years. And then it's not
just the embarrassment part of it. How can a military
rot so quickly? Well, In the military, accountability is everything.
And we always knew that. I knew that as a young, dumb,
enlisted grunt. Accountability is everything. Succeed or fail. If you fail,
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there will be accountability here in our military now it
has been so rotted out within by the officer corps.
The freaking chairman of the Joint Chiefs will bomb ten
innocent people in response to a terrorist attack, ten innocent people,
six of them children in Afghanistan, and he'll stare right
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in the camera and call it righteous.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
We know from a variety of other means that at
least one of those people that were killed was a
ISIS facilitator. So were there are others killed? Yes, there
are others killed. Who they are we don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
We'll try to.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Sort through all that, but we believe that the procedures
at this point, I don't want to influence the outcome
of an investigation, but at this point we think that
the procedures were correctly followed, and it was a righteous strike.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
A righteous strike, But it wasn't. They made it all up.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We vaporized ten innocent people on our way out of
the country, and nobody was held accountable for it at all.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
No accountability, accountability is gone.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
How could a military get so weak? Well, it's also
the people you bring into the military. You see the
people you bring in, they're the ones who run. It
kind of goes without saying, who are you bringing in? Well,
you see that military, those army rangers scaling the cliffs
on d Day of Normandy.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Do you think they would have signed up to join.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
In a military whose advertisements were this.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
This is the story of a soldier who operates your
nation's patriot missile defense systems. It begins in California with
a little girl raised by two moms. I also marched
for equality. I like to think I've been defending freedom
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from an early age. Sure, I'd spent my life around
inspiring women, But what had I really achieved on my own?
One of my sorority sisters was studying abroad in Italy,
another was climbing Mount Everest. I needed my own adventures,
my own challenge, and after meeting with an armor recruiter.
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I found it a way to prove my inner strength
and maybe shatter some stereotypes along the way.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
The people who win your wars for you don't join
militaries like that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
They go do something else.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
They go become cops, firemen, part of their community. They
don't join the military. But you will get a bunch
of vile little communists joining your military with ads like that,
and they will rot it out from within. Now, what
are we going to do about it? Well, Pete hag Seth,
sure sounds like the right man for the job.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You're precisely right.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
The military was a forerunner in courageous racial integration in
ways no other institutions were willing to do.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I served with.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Men and women of all backgrounds because of.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
The courage of people day. It's most incredibly important.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
However, the DEI policies of today are not the same
as what happened back then. They're dividing troops inside formations,
causing commanders to walk on eggshells, not putting meritocracy first.
That's the indictment that's made by those serving right now,
and why we're having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Sounds like the right man for the job. We need
him and we need a lot of reform. He has
a monumental task ahead of him because the largest, most
well funded military in the world is not ready for
prime time. That's the truth, Pete. Better get us there.
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All that may have made you uncomfortable, but.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I am right. We have an incredible show for you.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Don't lecture me about women in combat. Women have been
in combat, and it doesn't matter if that's seven to
six to two hits you in the chest. No one
gives if it's a woman or a guy who pulled
that trit you're still dead. So if you meet the standards,
our military must be and always should be, a standards based,
merit based military, period full stop. It doesn't matter if
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you're white, if you're black, if you're a man, if
you're a woman, if you're a Catholic, you're a Protestant.
None of those identification things matter. What matters are standards,
readiness standards. Do you meet the standard or not? If yes,
pasco collecting hundred join the infantry.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But that's not at all how it works.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You see what drives me crazy is that's the argument
of an ignorant civilian. Well, all they have to do
is shoot the bullet hits just the same. The life
in the infantry is a physical life, very very physical.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's grueling and it grinds you down to the nubs. It's
not shooting. Joining me now, Jason.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Nelson, US Army Marine Corps veteran Jason, Praise God, that
freaking guy's gone. They even took his portrait out of
the Pentagon.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
I you know, there are very few things that I
cannot wait to see, and one of those things to
watch those partons get thrown off the door. The Private
Millie can spend some time at Levenworth and I don't
know he could talk about equity or whatever he wants.
Is he's working the cowl line and dealing with all
the convicts over there. It's then, it's monstrosity the what
the military has become.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Jesse. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
The fact is is that readiness is down across the board.
They had to change the PT test even lower to
get lower lower standards to be able to continue to
fill the force.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
That we have right now.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Theysion a long time to go to cater the force
to the one percent that constantly needs attention as opposed
to distilling the force down to the one percent that
can actually do the job. And Millie's just lying, as
most civilians do when they talk about forward to operate
bases as combat. Just because we entered at kinetic operations
in a different theater that's different than let's say World
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War two, and you happen to have females who were
on the front lines, it does not mean that they
were engaged in door kicking. It doesn't mean that they
were engaged in combat, and it also doesn't mean they
were capable of dragging you're sorry butt out of a
killbox if you happen to get fragged and drag you
out to safety and to be able to do the
things that they needed to be able to do, because,
as we saw at in LA, if you have a
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firefighter who says it's your problem, if you've gotten that
and I can't carry you if you got yourself in
that situation, and you know, quite frankly, I don't think
we're ready for a war, Jesse.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
I think that we're ready to lose a war.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Talk about that. Why aren't we ready?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Because you know what's startling to me as I have
not talked to a single person incurrently or someone who
got out fairly recently who has said we're ready. Every
one of them, to a man says we're not ready.
We're not ready. But what does that mean.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Well, you know most of what defines readiness in the
military in that larger hierarchy. And he did touch on
the fact that our Secretary of Defense talked about how
it's a top heavy organization and so it comes an
administrative score. There are metrics that define what is readiness, right,
so you can budge those statistics. You can move them
into what we call green, or at least into an
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amber state, so they're not going to sit here and
kick you or receiving amber or yellow or whatever the
heck it is.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
I'm colorblind.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
The point is is that if you don't want to
be in the red, you could sit here and say, hey,
I get all my soldiers trained on a rifle, or
I can turn around and get some of them trained
on a rifle, and I can get everybody to go
watch this video on sexual harassment, or on how to
keep your cat car and not lose it in the hallway,
or other stupid things that they fill your time with
the fact this is in the reserves. You spent more
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time in computer classes that just check the box on
the most benign things than you did on your primary
weapons system. You spent more time getting ready for medical
doing these shots and checking your teeth and all these things.
This is what our reservists are doing right now. They're
not training to fight a war. And anybody who thinks
that our active duty is the one that goes out
and fights that war doesn't understand how wars are fought.
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Maybe that initial strike, but it's the reserves that bear
the brunt of this, and quite frankly, the reserves are
less than fifty percent readiness and have been for a
very very long time.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Pete Heg Saith, how does he tackle a problem this big,
this vast, the military that is not ready, it's large,
These problems are large. The communist infection in it is large.
Is it even possible for one man to go in
and start cleaning it out?
Speaker 8 (13:37):
You know, I think it's about a mindset, Jesse.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
I think that you and I are the type of
people that we rose to the challenge, and the challenge
was a challenge that we set for ourselves. It wasn't
as though a gonelet was thrown down by Japan. It's
not as if somebody When I joined, I joined in
Peace Time nineteen ninety seven, my first tour. I joined
because I wanted to challenge something in myself. I wanted
to be United States Marine, I wanted to be the
elite of the elite.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
I wanted to push myself.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
And quite frankly, we've given out participation trophies for so
long in just civilian society, it's actually bled over to
the military. I'm embarrassed about half of the ribbons that
I've been awarded, Like I look like a Guatemalan a
dictator at this point, because you know, oh, you attended
this program, you went and did this stupid thing. That
isn't what we're supposed to be doing. What we're supposed
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to be doing is distilling these troops down. We're supposed
to be finding the best of the best and setting
for them challenges. Now, I think there's a lot we
could do to improve the draw for a lot of people.
I think that understanding they might get better medical care
while they're serving. You know, we treat our pro athletes
with better attention than we do our warriors, and if
they were given the same attention, we'd probably keep our
warriors a lot longer and have a much stronger force.
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But outside of that, I think continuing to lay the
gauntlet down for people, not muddying the waters, not lowering
the standards, but but setting the standards even higher, I
believe is.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
What's going to make our military stronger.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
And I believe he has that same thought and same
process that he's going to go ahead and.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Push forward with that.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Jason, how does some military tackle it's recruiting issues. Setting
aside the fact we know Pete hagg Sets is going
to dump all the DEI, we're not going to gay
the whole.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Place up anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
With all due respect to the Navy, we're not going
to do that stuff anymore. We still have the problem
of a recruiting pool that is not physically ready. All
these freaking kids, they're fat, they're on anti anxiety medication,
they're they're they're not qualified to go run and jump
and carry things.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
How do we handle that?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Well?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
I think there's a very simple solution to that, and
I think it's this. You go out and find those
those that can still hear you, and you tell them
that when we're not, when we don't have a great enemy,
essin when we don't, we're not. You know, the Nazi
Germany and Japan didn't just attack us. We're not headed
into some nasty war because somebody blew down buildings on
nine to eleven.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
How do you draw people in?
Speaker 7 (15:51):
And I think what it is you inspire in them
the idea that they can become grown men, they can
become in some cases grown women, by going in and
experiencing what it's like to have to depend on yourself,
what it is to be challenged, what it is to
be rubbed into the dirt and have to pick yourself
back up and be pushed to a limit that is
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beyond endurance. I think that those are things that we
should advertise to people. I think that there is a
large group of people out there at youth right now
who have seen what has happened to.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
The generation just before them.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
The kids sat around on the couch, who played video games,
who wanted to be social media stars. They're looking at
all of this and it's not real. They want to
be people in society who produce. And I think that
you go after those people by telling them that Look,
it's not going to be easy, it's not going to
be given to you, but it's something that you can
go out and earn.
Speaker 8 (16:41):
It's what drew me in. And I was not your
cliche marine going in.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
And again, I don't know what drew you in, Jesse,
but I think that the if you challenge people, people
really do. This is what sets humans aside. Is we
are problem solvers and we want to aspire to have things.
And Elon Musk spoke on this at the inauguration, to
have something to strive for. And by the way, this
doesn't mean putting all of our soldiers and marines and
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sailors and airmen up on a pedestal. It means sitting
here and having them understand that there's a culmination to
that training, to that lifestyle that leads to them being
better members of society, better prepared to deal with life,
and that they will be more successful in the long term.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, the Marines that I went Marines.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I didn't even walk into any other office because of
the challenge.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I wanted to see what I was made of.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I wanted to see if I had what it took
to become a marine, see if it was tough, you know,
all right?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Had it in you, jesse Day, Yeah, I had it
in me. I guess. I don't know if I found
out that I was tough, but I had it in me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I guess to get it done, h Pete egg Saith.
There are concerns from people who don't really understand how
wars are fought that well, he's never been in general,
We're just going to send some captain in there to
take over everything.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Why is that thinking completely misplaced? Because it is.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Well, first of all, generals were never generals until they
were generals, correct, So most most people would understand if
they look at battlefield history, we'd understand it isn't often
colonels that get promoted to generals, but it's majors and
captains who are out there in the field and conducting maneuvers,
and generals who see in them the ability to actually fight.
For generals are basically administrative. I think a lot of
people forget that their job is administrative. So when you
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think about who actually goes out and conducts the war fighting,
when you think about the echelonta which it takes place,
I think people right into the category of the people
you would want right at the company commander level, somebody
who has experienced and leading while also understanding the machinations
of the administrative class.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Jason, come back soon, my brother summer five. All right,
Clay Martin me was Green Beret, a Marine Scout, sniper,
Marine recon. He's been around a while. You know, Clay Martin,
he has some military thoughts.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Do you think? He joins us next?
Speaker 9 (19:13):
My military is more diverse than it has ever been,
but more importantly, it is more lethal than has ever been.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
This is not a coincidence.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Wow, that is a load off. More diverse and more lethal.
I'm so excited. Joining me now, Clay Martin, retired Green Beret,
Marine Corps Scout Sniper, Marine Corps ricon. Now he writes
books for a living when he's not teaching other people how.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
To kill people. Joining me now, Clay Martin.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Clay, he wrote the book Barbarian Spirit.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I should know.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I think his fiction stuff is better than his nonfiction. Okay, Clay,
are we more lethal than we have been?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Bro?
Speaker 10 (19:54):
I had actually seen that at that more lethal clip.
It's a good thing you talked for a bit because
I was rolling around on the floor down.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Wow.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
Wow, we've seen live from politicians all the time. But
I don't know how you can say that one with
a straight face. That's uh, that's rich.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Why has put it in words that people will understand.
Why has this focus on, well, well, yeah, we need
more women, we need more of this, we need more.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Any of that.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Why does that focus Why does it hurt lethality because
people who haven't been in and don't understand that, they
really can't grasp lots of the time.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Why that hurts everything.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
It's actually, you know, it's almost like they think for
a second that you know, I got a leg up
because out of the white guy. The benefit of the
military has always been that it's a pure meritocracy for everyone.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
For me, it doesn't matter if I come whatever background.
Speaker 10 (20:47):
I could be the I don't know, what's what's the
whitest guy in the meet George Washington's great grandson.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
It wouldn't matter because they didn't care. You can either
hack it or you can't.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
And that has led to you know what it's led to,
But it's to the best people doing the just wach
like complex jobs, you know, fighter pilots, things like that.
Nobody has ever cared about the adversity of that. Now
when you change things, and I actually saw this start
to happen in the Obama years myself, and to be honest,
also a little bit under the Bush years.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Even when you start.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
To have these quotas like oh, well we have to
have X amount of whatever special people in, you're going
to have to change the standards.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
That's that's how it works. You can, don't.
Speaker 10 (21:29):
You can pry a couple of you can try recruiting to,
you know, a certain segment of popular work.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
But for the most part, you're going to have to
change standards.
Speaker 10 (21:37):
And that's just how it is. And get out of
the way. Alice, Oh, there's my big dog in in
a way. Once you do that, yeah, things starts falling apart.
Why did no women pass Ranger School?
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Oh Alice, you you idiots?
Speaker 10 (21:49):
Why did no women pass Ranger school until a two
star general walked their lanes for them? I don't know,
that's weird, huh.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Clay for you, did you see this stuff leak into
our top tier guys like your gear, like your guys,
Because I saw I see a lot of people say, well,
at least this stuff will never get to the seals.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It'll never get to Green Berets.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (22:19):
The first female Green Beret indeed her own pistol at
her apartment complex about six months after she graduated from
the course, and that's what happened. I didn't go to
her course, so I don't know if they changed the
standards for her, But I do know this from talking
to friends as still, because we're also at the age
where it's my guys that are running the selections and the.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Courses for these younger dudes.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
I think all the old betterans always say it, but
for once, I do actually believe it's true. They have
really lowered the standard and things weaker. So yet it
has infected us also. And you know, at the end
of the day two, it doesn't matter because Seal Team
eleven and s F we can't fight the war by ourselves.
We need a navy and some you know airplanes and
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some you know guys with bombs, artillery guys. So yes,
misconception Petion two. Even if it didn't affect us, it's
still cut in or legality in a huge way.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, talk about those support guys, because I tried to
explain this to people on my show as often as
possible that. Yet, Look, even if the rangers are still
where they need to be, right, even if the marine
grunts are where they need to be, you need a
mountain of support of various kinds behind you. Some of
it's firing rockets and dropping bombs, some.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Of it's just bringing you food.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
And if those are a bunch of morons, then I
don't care how tough the rangers are.
Speaker 10 (23:38):
They can't do it. We're on an empty stomach, exactly right.
It ultimately makes all of our jobs more dangerous too.
If you give some special boys and they got to
do special so they can go grab HBTs or whatever, well,
if they're the only ones in the country, I guess
who the only target is is those guys. You know,
we actually got away with a lot in the War
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on Terror because we had so many other biting forces
of legit, a second Airbourne and Marine gra all these
guys run over the place doing all this other stuff
that also occupy the targeting and allows us to get
the lynch pits. So this all ties together the A
lot of people talk about the teamwork thing like it's
a you know, a cliche thing, but really is true.
It is all one big team, and you're only as
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strong as your weakest link. If you have links in
there that can't get EMO to the rangers out there
on the hilltop, well guess what now they're going to die?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Is that works all right?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Rubio had some interesting things to say about China. Here.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
He was if we stay on the road we're on
right now, in less than ten years, virtually everything that
matters to us in life will depend on whether China
will allow us to have it or not. Everything from
the blood pressure medicine we take, to what movies we
get to watch, and everything in between, we will depend
on China. Ford they have come to dominate the critical
mental industry supplies throughout the world.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Everywhere in the world.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
They've now established critical me uneral rights. Even those who
want to see more electric cars, no matter where you
make them, those batteries are almost entirely dependent on the
ability of the Chinese and the willingness of the Chinese
Communist Party to produce it and export it to you.
So if we don't change course, we are going to
live in a world where much of what matters to
us on a daily basis, from our security to our health,
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will be dependent on whether the Chinese allow us to
have it or not, that's an unacceptable outcome.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Clay, where does our military stack up against China's.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
Five years ago would have been a bad joke in
our paper now, I really don't know, especially because when
you talk about dealing with China, you're talking about major systems.
You're not talking about a couple of idiots with suppressed
rifle in the dark, and you know, get been like
you're talking about like naval battles and aircraft, like bites
and missiles and you crazy stuff.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I have lost a lot of.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
Faith in our navy, and our navy is actually this
is a hard thing for us and for Marines to
admit when you get right down to it. As far
as world power projection goes, the Navy is the most
important branch, and the Navy seems like it has really
fallen apart in the last five years.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Rusty ships too.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
You know, they're getting housed by Houthi's with djidrones and
the Red Sea. The fact that they shot one of
their own fighter aircraft down the other day in their
own strike force.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
For that, I mean, we've kind of lost overappen, but
it happened.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
These are mistakes that it wouldn't have happened eighty or
they wouldn't happened forty years ago with way worse technology.
The fact that these things are happening now should be
terrifying to us. And that tells us that the rot
in that service is incredibly deep. It's the competence level
all the way up and down the chain. And now
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I'm not so sure.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Now.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
On the other hand, I've seen China's stuff, and you know,
for the most part is garbage. But they are getting better,
all right, they are getting better. And if we were
to have to fight them too, it's like Chinese is
gonna come here. China wants to fight or territorial concessions
in his own backyard. So we've always had to be
willing to play the logistics game against them.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
If we have to do that. Now, I'm not that
confident we can win. I'm just not confident that we
can get.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
Our stuff over There are our sea lift, of our
major items that we needed to dominate, and that's that's scary.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That is absolutely frightening.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, Clay, why the Navy in particular, I understand you've
talked about this, that the degradation of really every service.
The Marine Corps gone this way too, maybe less so,
but same same thing. But the Navy it has been startling,
and you're one hundred percent correct. I talk about it
all the time, as much as it pains me, that's
the one we need. If you're going to take out
every branch and leave when it would be the freaking Navy, like,
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you really have to have that. With the world being
two thirds water, you have to have it. Why have
they fallen so hard and so fast?
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Yeah, that's a very good question. I don't know they.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
I will say that seeing this from being around the
serve for twenty five years, it does feel like they
went to the not only like the DEI stuff, but
the Navy, more than any other branch, became reliant on
the We had the superior technology and the superior stuff.
Therefore we can get sloppy with discipline and incompetence because
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if you go back to like two thousand, they could
Our stuff was so much further advanced than anybody else's.
The Navy also didn't except for you like EOD guys
or CBS that they're very small land based components. The
Navy you never had to worry about anything in the
g Watt. I think we all saw that that meme
the fake neighbor recruit again, you know, like you can't
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get killed at the Navy and lest you party too hard.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
That was kind of true, man, it really was.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
So they also haven't faced the same attrition and the
same danger that even the Air Force has over your
last twenty years. Air Force had plane station where the
little commando guys could show up and kill you or
shoot a rocket at you, and they faced danger maybe
systemically has not.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
I don't even actually know when.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
The last time the Navy faced real danger was probably
actually Operation Now pretty managed, like nineteen eighty one in
the Persian golf. So I just think it's allowed their
service to be the most affected, and now all of
a sudden, it's like they're the It's like they're the
aging rock star that's been you know, he's been the
awesome guy, but he's been doing coke and drinking.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Jack Daniels in the green room for the last four
hours and.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
I signed for the main set like you're on, and
he's like, I forgot the words of my song.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
That's what appeels like.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We are in trouble.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Clay my brother, best to you and your dog. Go
buy Clay's books.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I love them. All Right, Well I've done yet, we'll
get back.
Speaker 11 (30:01):
Did any of you throw your rank on the table
and say, hey, it's a bad idea to evacuate Bogram Airfield,
the Strategic Airberys before we evacuate everyone.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Did anyone do that?
Speaker 11 (30:10):
And when you didn't think to do that, did anyone
raise their hand and say we completely mess this up?
Potentially all those people did die in vain if we
don't have senior leaders that own up and raise their
hand and say we did not do this well in
the end, I want to say this very strongly.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I have been fighting for seventeen years.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
I am willing to throw it all away to say
to my senior leaders, I demand accountability.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And he did he do it all way. That was
Stuart Scheller, brave marine officer. There weren't many of them
who did that. In fact, you can count him on
one hand.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
But he did it.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
He gave it all up.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
But he's coming back joining me now to talk about
the military comeback. Wade Miller, executive director at the Center
for Renewing America, sent for five and of course Chase spears.
Former Army paratrooper Afghanistan veteran Chase Stewart is coming back
as a senior advisor to the Department of Defense.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
I like a lot of what I see.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
In fact, I like about everything I see right now
as it pertains to the new military we're going to have.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Thanks for having me back on Jesse, I share that
encouragement with you. It's this is a wonderful reverse. When
you look at guys like Stu Scheller, when you look
at guys like Matt Lomeyer, when you look at guys
like Pete Heseth, our new Secretary of Defense, who is
also persecuted for having just basic traditional Christian worldview belief,
it's wonderful to see these guys who were treated ill
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when they were in uniform, basically for speaking the truth,
for speaking the things that people in uniforms should have
been saying, for saying what general should have been saying,
and they were cast aside. And it's a new day,
and it's a it's wonderful news for the Department of
Defense to bring these leaders back not just at the
tactical operational level where they were before, but now working
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up at this strategic level steering policy, giving directs. These
are men who had the scar tissue. They know what
it feels like, and they know what needs to be done.
And so I'm very excited about these announcements, and I
hope to see a lot more just like them.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Wait, Pete haig Seth has been out there saying a
lot of wonderful things.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Music to my years, I know, music to yours. Here
was some of it.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Someone who'd served in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Guantanamo Bay
holding a riot shield outside the White House. I'd been
identified as an extremist, someone unworthy of guarding the inauguration
of an incoming American president. And if that's happening to me, Senator,
how many other men and women, how many other patriots,
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how many other people of conscience? We haven't even talked
about COVID and the tens of thousands of service members
who were kicked out because of an experimental vac I've
seen in President Trump's Defense Department. They will be apologized to,
They will be reinstituted with pay and rank. Things like
focusing on extremism, Senator, have created a climate inside our
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ranks that feel political when it has hasn't ever been political.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Wade.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Can we put Humpty Dumpty back together again?
Speaker 6 (33:24):
I think so.
Speaker 13 (33:25):
I don't think it's too late. I think that there
is a lot of damage to overcome. Some of it
has been years in the making. But you know, I've
been investigating and researching woken weaponized topics for a number
of years now, and I am very encouraged by the
incoming team and the conversations I've had with them at
how serious they are about getting the military back to
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focusing on lethality and not these leftist agenda items that
are masquerading as you know, serious ideas, you know, like
DEI and anti racism, which is an actually about you know,
opposing racism, and all of these other equity focused agenda
items and white supremacy and domestic extremism. They're now going
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to focus on defending the United States of America, and
that's not going to happen overnight, and I you know,
they're going to be methodical about it, but I'm encouraged
by what I've already seen. I think in the coming
weeks you're going to see Secretary Higgsith make a lot
of moves that I think are going to be welcomed
by those of us who are serious about national security
and getting our military back in fighting shape. And I
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think it's an exciting team if you're in a time,
if you're a veteran, to see the military going back
in the direction that needs to be going in and
that we've all known, especially if you talk to sergeants
across the military, they've all been saying this for years,
and of course colonels and generals have mostly been quiet
about it because they want to get their next promotion.
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But we finally have a secretary who is a secretary
for you know, the enlisted man and woman who's going
to be fighting for the reason that they chose to serve,
which is because they love this country and they want
to defend it.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Chase, let's talk about the officer corps. Let's talk about well,
specifically the military academies. These revered institutions. They have been
poisoned all the way down to the roots as well.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
How in the world do.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
You start to clean that gunk out when people are
learning about diversity and queer theory at freaking West Point,
Where do you begin?
Speaker 12 (35:30):
The military academy's jesse unfortunately reflects the reality of what
we've seen across the officer corps. My last job was
in the US Army's Combined Arms Center. I also do
a final stint at Recruiting Command, very Officer Heavy Headquarters,
and you see these theories promulgated throughout, and so it's
going to take a concerted effort. I'm pleased to hear
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that we can expect to see several generals who soon
become civilians, but that will not be enough. As I
was telling Matthew Lohmeyer when I was on a tea
on Hall the Stars the other day, the reality is
this cancer is deep. The Biden administration drilled this in
deep throughout the officer corps, all the way down to
the company grade level, and it's going to take the
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same initiative to rid that cancer that it did to
take it in. We're going to need to see commanders
who are willing to train this, repeat it, and hold
people accountable. We're going to need some people made examples of.
Just like we have annual trainings that push this DEI
crap into the military, we need to have much more
frequent trainings pulling it out. And commanders are going to
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have to prove to their troops through actions. Hey, it's
safe now you don't have to call people like refram
amm and where that you're going to get in trouble
for it anymore. You can now be a regular American
serving your nation, acting patriotically, defending the Constitution, and not
have to live in fear because of that anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Speaking of making an example of people, this lady common
to former Commandant of the Coast Guard, Linda Fagen or Fagan,
I don't know how to say her name here.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
She was.
Speaker 14 (37:06):
We currently have nearly forty percent women enrolled at the
Coastguard Academy. I'm really excited about the talent and the
diversity that I see coming through the academy. My daughter
is in the Coastguard as a lieutenant, and there is
just nothing but opportunity for her and all of the
men and women that have joined the service. I'm really
excited about the future as we look ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So that's one commandant down.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Ms Fagin can go back to the civilian world, wage
how many others.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Have to go?
Speaker 13 (37:37):
Well, you know, we'll defer to the leadership team of
Secretary Haig Sith, But you know, one comes to mind,
General C. Q. Brown he's the head of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff. He wrote a memo literally saying that
one of his objectives was to have less white officers,
essentially setting forth a racial quota system that he wanted
to do implement. I think that that type of, you know, leadership,
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is toxic and it's frankly, should be a violation of
the law, and anyone who's been espousing that type of
overt racism should be let go. I think that that's
a bad command environment to have someone like that leading
the military, and so I'm hoping that we'll see soon
that names like that are included.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Chase, you wrote an article, good article for Red Steak
called it's time for conservatives in the military to fight.
What are you talking about and what's your plea to
the enlisted guys there?
Speaker 12 (38:38):
My plea, Jesse, is for people that are still serving
right now in the ranks, to understand this fight for
the military, for the nation is not just one that
is the responsibility of our civilian policymakers. Now to be clear,
it is the responsibility of our civilian policy makers. Is
the responsibility of voters, It's the responsibility of veterans, it's
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the responsibility of you and me, but it's also the
responsibility of those who are currently in the ranks. I've
talked to so many people in the ranks over the
last few years, when I was still on active duty
and now that I'm a retiree who said things like, look,
we were conservatives. We believe the things that we see
you saying. We believe in constitutionality, but we dare not
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say this out loud because we might get in trouble. Well,
that's what people who are willing to stand guard for
the nation are willing to do. They're willing to take
those chances. How are we going to call ourselves warriors
and say that we're willing to go stand between the
enemies of the nation and a bullet if we won't
stand between a slide and our troops when it comes
to indoctrination. So my plea is not for people to
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rise up in the ranks.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
My plea is not for.
Speaker 12 (39:43):
Any discontent or any breakdown of discipline. My plea is this,
obey lawful orders, report unlawful orders. Report those who give
you unlawful orders. Be willing to stand against the lie
ASSUALTSA needs and said, let the lie come but not
through us. And for too long conservatives in the ranks
have set on their hands and said it's someone else's problem.
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I'm afraid the tide has turned. It is now time
to say the light would no longer come through me.
I'm not going to participate in this through inaction or action.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Wait, wepping things up here.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
How do we handle the defense contractor cabal. I mean,
we do need defense contractors, we need people designing and
producing wonderful new weapons to give us an edge. But
what we have now is gross, it's corrupt. I mean,
it's not going to work long term. How do we
fix that?
Speaker 13 (40:35):
Well, I think we need to audit and review that
entire process, including by the way. I think that we
need to have affirmations that subcontractors aren't participating in things
like DEI and other systems. It would be deemed a
violation of Title seven of the Civil Rights Acts, for instance.
Start with that process, and then I think, through a
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streamlining of reorenting our mission, I think you start cutting
down certain contracts and figuring out what's actually in the
best interest of the United States of America. And you know,
fortunately we have a good team, a good defense team
going in there. We will have a good OMB team
with russ Vote and others at OMB and so I
think that but the combination of those two OHMB and
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DoD that are really serious about getting this country back
on track and getting rid of all the grift and
the corruption and the wokeness and the weaponization, I think
that you're going to see a transformation. And I think
that this last point is really important, and this is
the crux of it all. Pete Haigstth isn't going there
to get a board seat at you know, McDonald douglas
after this, like so many Secretaries of Defense before him,
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He's going there to change the entire institution. And the
fact that he's not there for post DoD career money making,
I think is the biggest difference that you'll see between
this Secretary of Defense and almost every other Secretary of
Defense we've had in recent times. And I'm really looking
forward to that difference. And I think it's going to
be a night and day change.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I think so gentlemen, as always appreciate you. All Right,
we'll get it fixed and we'll be back hang on.
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A major war is coming. I know that sounds dark,
and it is dark, but it is coming because history
says it's coming.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I don't know who it's going to be with. We
all think, oh, that's going to be China or Russia.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
But I don't know, and I don't know when. I
don't know if it'll be next month. I don't know
if it'll be ten years, fifty.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Years from now. But it is coming.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
We know that, and we hear in the United States
of America have been so blessed that we just kind
of we don't look at those as ominously as we
probably should.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
We look at those as.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
If we've always won those major engagements, well we'll come
out on top were America.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
But that is not a given.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
And the entire history of the world is full of
empires as they start to fade thinking they're invincible, military
couldn't be beaten, find it beaten, and find themselves in
a shocking position. And that is coming for us unless
we get things reformed and changed in the military and
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in a hurry. The rot has been deep, and it's
been getting deeper by the day.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
We have got to fix that. Let's hope we're going
to dig in.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
It looks like Pete Hagsay's going to dig in, fingers crossed.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
All right, we'll do it again.
Have you ever done one of those mental experiments, or
or read a book, or maybe watching a documentary of
a war from the other person's side, from the other
person's perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I love this stuff, not that I try to have
sympathy for the enemies of my country, but I've read
these accounts before. I've read Vietnamese accounts of what it
was like with American bombers overhead. There are several still surviving,
as you can imagine, Japanese.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Accounts of what it was like there.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So obviously we're about to talk about the United States military,
but I want to talk about this really quickly because
it explains why I'm so passionate about having a strong
military and why I am so terrified at the rot
that has taken place inside of ours. If you read
a Japanese account of being bombed, you know, everyone knows
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about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but those are honestly a tiny
fraction of how much bombing we did in Japan. Virtually
every major city, not every major city, but pretty much every.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Major city in Japan. We reduced it to rubble.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And to hear the accounting of what it's like when
you could hear the planes coming. Am I going to
make it to the bomb shelter in time? My kids
there at school. I hope they got out, Okay, I
won't know till well, who knows when. Maybe that bomb
got them, Maybe it'll get me. The terror that it
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sounds horrifying to have a foreign army come into your
country and bomb you to powder. And then the training,
the fear they felt when they thought we were going
to invade, because we were going to invade, and if
they hadn't surrendered, the absolute abject terror. You're a woman
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doing bamboo spear training with your children, that level of terror,
But that can happen here. You realize that we here
in the United States of America, we have been blessed,
no matter how old you are watching me right now,
if you're ninety five or five, the entirety of your life,
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we've been untouchable in that regard. Number One biggest, baddest
military in the world, two gigantic oceans on each side.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, we may lose.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Something here or there, or a regional conflict, we may
get attacked, but no one's ever coming to the homeland.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
We're never going to lose a major war.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
We always win those. We're two for two, after all.
But that's not true. Every society in history they've gotten really,
really strong, the big ones, they've gotten really strong on
the backs of their military, and the citizens in the
those societies convinced themselves for the longest time that they
could never be beaten, that they were untouchable. Our military
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always wins, but that is not how history goes. Eventually,
you send that invincible army off to war and it
doesn't come back again. And you wake up one morning
looking around saying, wait, what that can't happen. How could
that have happened? Well, let's talk about how could that
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have happened. It's happening right now in front of your eyes.
How can a military so big, so powerful, so invincible,
how could it ever be beaten? Well, things like Afghanistan
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an image an international videos seen so many times around
the globe, so representative of the international embarrassment brought to
us by the Biden administration. The American military waking up
one day and just decide, and we're leaving, and the
Sea one thirty goes scurrying off the runway in international
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disgrace and embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What a spit in the face. It is of the.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Men and women who gave their blood and their lives
and that country for twenty years. And then it's not
just the embarrassment part of it. How can a military
rot so quickly? Well, In the military, accountability is everything.
And we always knew that. I knew that as a young, dumb,
enlisted grunt. Accountability is everything. Succeed or fail. If you fail,
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there will be accountability here in our military now it
has been so rotted out within by the officer corps.
The freaking chairman of the Joint Chiefs will bomb ten
innocent people in response to a terrorist attack, ten innocent people,
six of them children in Afghanistan, and he'll stare right
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in the camera and call it righteous.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
We know from a variety of other means that at
least one of those people that were killed was a
ISIS facilitator. So were there are others killed? Yes, there
are others killed. Who they are we don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
We'll try to.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Sort through all that, but we believe that the procedures
at this point, I don't want to influence the outcome
of an investigation, but at this point we think that
the procedures were correctly followed, and it was a righteous strike.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
A righteous strike, But it wasn't. They made it all up.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We vaporized ten innocent people on our way out of
the country, and nobody was held accountable for it at all.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
No accountability, accountability is gone.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
How could a military get so weak? Well, it's also
the people you bring into the military. You see the
people you bring in, they're the ones who run. It
kind of goes without saying, who are you bringing in? Well,
you see that military, those army rangers scaling the cliffs
on d Day of Normandy.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Do you think they would have signed up to join.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
In a military whose advertisements were this.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
This is the story of a soldier who operates your
nation's patriot missile defense systems. It begins in California with
a little girl raised by two moms. I also marched
for equality. I like to think I've been defending freedom
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from an early age. Sure, I'd spent my life around
inspiring women, But what had I really achieved on my own?
One of my sorority sisters was studying abroad in Italy,
another was climbing Mount Everest. I needed my own adventures,
my own challenge, and after meeting with an armor recruiter.
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I found it a way to prove my inner strength
and maybe shatter some stereotypes along the way.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
The people who win your wars for you don't join
militaries like that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
They go do something else.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
They go become cops, firemen, part of their community. They
don't join the military. But you will get a bunch
of vile little communists joining your military with ads like that,
and they will rot it out from within. Now, what
are we going to do about it? Well, Pete hag Seth,
sure sounds like the right man for the job.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You're precisely right.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
The military was a forerunner in courageous racial integration in
ways no other institutions were willing to do.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I served with.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Men and women of all backgrounds because of.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
The courage of people day. It's most incredibly important.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
However, the DEI policies of today are not the same
as what happened back then. They're dividing troops inside formations,
causing commanders to walk on eggshells, not putting meritocracy first.
That's the indictment that's made by those serving right now,
and why we're having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Sounds like the right man for the job. We need
him and we need a lot of reform. He has
a monumental task ahead of him because the largest, most
well funded military in the world is not ready for
prime time. That's the truth, Pete. Better get us there.
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All that may have made you uncomfortable, but.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I am right. We have an incredible show for you.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Don't lecture me about women in combat. Women have been
in combat, and it doesn't matter if that's seven to
six to two hits you in the chest. No one
gives if it's a woman or a guy who pulled
that trit you're still dead. So if you meet the standards,
our military must be and always should be, a standards based,
merit based military, period full stop. It doesn't matter if
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you're white, if you're black, if you're a man, if
you're a woman, if you're a Catholic, you're a Protestant.
None of those identification things matter. What matters are standards,
readiness standards. Do you meet the standard or not? If yes,
pasco collecting hundred join the infantry.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But that's not at all how it works.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You see what drives me crazy is that's the argument
of an ignorant civilian. Well, all they have to do
is shoot the bullet hits just the same. The life
in the infantry is a physical life, very very physical.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's grueling and it grinds you down to the nubs. It's
not shooting. Joining me now, Jason.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Nelson, US Army Marine Corps veteran Jason, Praise God, that
freaking guy's gone. They even took his portrait out of
the Pentagon.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
I you know, there are very few things that I
cannot wait to see, and one of those things to
watch those partons get thrown off the door. The Private
Millie can spend some time at Levenworth and I don't
know he could talk about equity or whatever he wants.
Is he's working the cowl line and dealing with all
the convicts over there. It's then, it's monstrosity the what
the military has become.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Jesse. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
The fact is is that readiness is down across the board.
They had to change the PT test even lower to
get lower lower standards to be able to continue to
fill the force.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
That we have right now.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Theysion a long time to go to cater the force
to the one percent that constantly needs attention as opposed
to distilling the force down to the one percent that
can actually do the job. And Millie's just lying, as
most civilians do when they talk about forward to operate
bases as combat. Just because we entered at kinetic operations
in a different theater that's different than let's say World
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War two, and you happen to have females who were
on the front lines, it does not mean that they
were engaged in door kicking. It doesn't mean that they
were engaged in combat, and it also doesn't mean they
were capable of dragging you're sorry butt out of a
killbox if you happen to get fragged and drag you
out to safety and to be able to do the
things that they needed to be able to do, because,
as we saw at in LA, if you have a
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firefighter who says it's your problem, if you've gotten that
and I can't carry you if you got yourself in
that situation, and you know, quite frankly, I don't think
we're ready for a war, Jesse.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
I think that we're ready to lose a war.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Talk about that. Why aren't we ready?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Because you know what's startling to me as I have
not talked to a single person incurrently or someone who
got out fairly recently who has said we're ready. Every
one of them, to a man says we're not ready.
We're not ready. But what does that mean.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Well, you know most of what defines readiness in the
military in that larger hierarchy. And he did touch on
the fact that our Secretary of Defense talked about how
it's a top heavy organization and so it comes an
administrative score. There are metrics that define what is readiness, right,
so you can budge those statistics. You can move them
into what we call green, or at least into an
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amber state, so they're not going to sit here and
kick you or receiving amber or yellow or whatever the
heck it is.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
I'm colorblind.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
The point is is that if you don't want to
be in the red, you could sit here and say, hey,
I get all my soldiers trained on a rifle, or
I can turn around and get some of them trained
on a rifle, and I can get everybody to go
watch this video on sexual harassment, or on how to
keep your cat car and not lose it in the hallway,
or other stupid things that they fill your time with
the fact this is in the reserves. You spent more
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time in computer classes that just check the box on
the most benign things than you did on your primary
weapons system. You spent more time getting ready for medical
doing these shots and checking your teeth and all these things.
This is what our reservists are doing right now. They're
not training to fight a war. And anybody who thinks
that our active duty is the one that goes out
and fights that war doesn't understand how wars are fought.
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Maybe that initial strike, but it's the reserves that bear
the brunt of this, and quite frankly, the reserves are
less than fifty percent readiness and have been for a
very very long time.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Pete Heg Saith, how does he tackle a problem this big,
this vast, the military that is not ready, it's large,
These problems are large. The communist infection in it is large.
Is it even possible for one man to go in
and start cleaning it out?
Speaker 8 (13:37):
You know, I think it's about a mindset, Jesse.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
I think that you and I are the type of
people that we rose to the challenge, and the challenge
was a challenge that we set for ourselves. It wasn't
as though a gonelet was thrown down by Japan. It's
not as if somebody When I joined, I joined in
Peace Time nineteen ninety seven, my first tour. I joined
because I wanted to challenge something in myself. I wanted
to be United States Marine, I wanted to be the
elite of the elite.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
I wanted to push myself.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
And quite frankly, we've given out participation trophies for so
long in just civilian society, it's actually bled over to
the military. I'm embarrassed about half of the ribbons that
I've been awarded, Like I look like a Guatemalan a
dictator at this point, because you know, oh, you attended
this program, you went and did this stupid thing. That
isn't what we're supposed to be doing. What we're supposed
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to be doing is distilling these troops down. We're supposed
to be finding the best of the best and setting
for them challenges. Now, I think there's a lot we
could do to improve the draw for a lot of people.
I think that understanding they might get better medical care
while they're serving. You know, we treat our pro athletes
with better attention than we do our warriors, and if
they were given the same attention, we'd probably keep our
warriors a lot longer and have a much stronger force.
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But outside of that, I think continuing to lay the
gauntlet down for people, not muddying the waters, not lowering
the standards, but but setting the standards even higher, I
believe is.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
What's going to make our military stronger.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
And I believe he has that same thought and same
process that he's going to go ahead and.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Push forward with that.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Jason, how does some military tackle it's recruiting issues. Setting
aside the fact we know Pete hagg Sets is going
to dump all the DEI, we're not going to gay
the whole.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Place up anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
With all due respect to the Navy, we're not going
to do that stuff anymore. We still have the problem
of a recruiting pool that is not physically ready. All
these freaking kids, they're fat, they're on anti anxiety medication,
they're they're they're not qualified to go run and jump
and carry things.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
How do we handle that?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Well?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
I think there's a very simple solution to that, and
I think it's this. You go out and find those
those that can still hear you, and you tell them
that when we're not, when we don't have a great enemy,
essin when we don't, we're not. You know, the Nazi
Germany and Japan didn't just attack us. We're not headed
into some nasty war because somebody blew down buildings on
nine to eleven.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
How do you draw people in?
Speaker 7 (15:51):
And I think what it is you inspire in them
the idea that they can become grown men, they can
become in some cases grown women, by going in and
experiencing what it's like to have to depend on yourself,
what it is to be challenged, what it is to
be rubbed into the dirt and have to pick yourself
back up and be pushed to a limit that is
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beyond endurance. I think that those are things that we
should advertise to people. I think that there is a
large group of people out there at youth right now
who have seen what has happened to.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
The generation just before them.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
The kids sat around on the couch, who played video games,
who wanted to be social media stars. They're looking at
all of this and it's not real. They want to
be people in society who produce. And I think that
you go after those people by telling them that Look,
it's not going to be easy, it's not going to
be given to you, but it's something that you can
go out and earn.
Speaker 8 (16:41):
It's what drew me in. And I was not your
cliche marine going in.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
And again, I don't know what drew you in, Jesse,
but I think that the if you challenge people, people
really do. This is what sets humans aside. Is we
are problem solvers and we want to aspire to have things.
And Elon Musk spoke on this at the inauguration, to
have something to strive for. And by the way, this
doesn't mean putting all of our soldiers and marines and
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sailors and airmen up on a pedestal. It means sitting
here and having them understand that there's a culmination to
that training, to that lifestyle that leads to them being
better members of society, better prepared to deal with life,
and that they will be more successful in the long term.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, the Marines that I went Marines.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I didn't even walk into any other office because of
the challenge.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I wanted to see what I was made of.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I wanted to see if I had what it took
to become a marine, see if it was tough, you know,
all right?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Had it in you, jesse Day, Yeah, I had it
in me. I guess. I don't know if I found
out that I was tough, but I had it in me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I guess to get it done, h Pete egg Saith.
There are concerns from people who don't really understand how
wars are fought that well, he's never been in general,
We're just going to send some captain in there to
take over everything.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Why is that thinking completely misplaced? Because it is.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Well, first of all, generals were never generals until they
were generals, correct, So most most people would understand if
they look at battlefield history, we'd understand it isn't often
colonels that get promoted to generals, but it's majors and
captains who are out there in the field and conducting maneuvers,
and generals who see in them the ability to actually fight.
For generals are basically administrative. I think a lot of
people forget that their job is administrative. So when you
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think about who actually goes out and conducts the war fighting,
when you think about the echelonta which it takes place,
I think people right into the category of the people
you would want right at the company commander level, somebody
who has experienced and leading while also understanding the machinations
of the administrative class.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Jason, come back soon, my brother summer five. All right,
Clay Martin me was Green Beret, a Marine Scout, sniper,
Marine recon. He's been around a while. You know, Clay Martin,
he has some military thoughts.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Do you think? He joins us next?
Speaker 9 (19:13):
My military is more diverse than it has ever been,
but more importantly, it is more lethal than has ever been.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
This is not a coincidence.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Wow, that is a load off. More diverse and more lethal.
I'm so excited. Joining me now, Clay Martin, retired Green Beret,
Marine Corps Scout Sniper, Marine Corps ricon. Now he writes
books for a living when he's not teaching other people how.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
To kill people. Joining me now, Clay Martin.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Clay, he wrote the book Barbarian Spirit.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I should know.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I think his fiction stuff is better than his nonfiction. Okay, Clay,
are we more lethal than we have been?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Bro?
Speaker 10 (19:54):
I had actually seen that at that more lethal clip.
It's a good thing you talked for a bit because
I was rolling around on the floor down.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Wow.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
Wow, we've seen live from politicians all the time. But
I don't know how you can say that one with
a straight face. That's uh, that's rich.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Why has put it in words that people will understand.
Why has this focus on, well, well, yeah, we need
more women, we need more of this, we need more.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Any of that.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Why does that focus Why does it hurt lethality because
people who haven't been in and don't understand that, they
really can't grasp lots of the time.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Why that hurts everything.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
It's actually, you know, it's almost like they think for
a second that you know, I got a leg up
because out of the white guy. The benefit of the
military has always been that it's a pure meritocracy for everyone.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
For me, it doesn't matter if I come whatever background.
Speaker 10 (20:47):
I could be the I don't know, what's what's the
whitest guy in the meet George Washington's great grandson.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
It wouldn't matter because they didn't care. You can either
hack it or you can't.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
And that has led to you know what it's led to,
But it's to the best people doing the just wach
like complex jobs, you know, fighter pilots, things like that.
Nobody has ever cared about the adversity of that. Now
when you change things, and I actually saw this start
to happen in the Obama years myself, and to be honest,
also a little bit under the Bush years.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Even when you start.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
To have these quotas like oh, well we have to
have X amount of whatever special people in, you're going
to have to change the standards.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
That's that's how it works. You can, don't.
Speaker 10 (21:29):
You can pry a couple of you can try recruiting to,
you know, a certain segment of popular work.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
But for the most part, you're going to have to
change standards.
Speaker 10 (21:37):
And that's just how it is. And get out of
the way. Alice, Oh, there's my big dog in in
a way. Once you do that, yeah, things starts falling apart.
Why did no women pass Ranger School?
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Oh Alice, you you idiots?
Speaker 10 (21:49):
Why did no women pass Ranger school until a two
star general walked their lanes for them? I don't know,
that's weird, huh.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Clay for you, did you see this stuff leak into
our top tier guys like your gear, like your guys,
Because I saw I see a lot of people say, well,
at least this stuff will never get to the seals.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It'll never get to Green Berets.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (22:19):
The first female Green Beret indeed her own pistol at
her apartment complex about six months after she graduated from
the course, and that's what happened. I didn't go to
her course, so I don't know if they changed the
standards for her, But I do know this from talking
to friends as still, because we're also at the age
where it's my guys that are running the selections and the.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Courses for these younger dudes.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
I think all the old betterans always say it, but
for once, I do actually believe it's true. They have
really lowered the standard and things weaker. So yet it
has infected us also. And you know, at the end
of the day two, it doesn't matter because Seal Team
eleven and s F we can't fight the war by ourselves.
We need a navy and some you know airplanes and
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some you know guys with bombs, artillery guys. So yes,
misconception Petion two. Even if it didn't affect us, it's
still cut in or legality in a huge way.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, talk about those support guys, because I tried to
explain this to people on my show as often as
possible that. Yet, Look, even if the rangers are still
where they need to be, right, even if the marine
grunts are where they need to be, you need a
mountain of support of various kinds behind you. Some of
it's firing rockets and dropping bombs, some.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Of it's just bringing you food.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
And if those are a bunch of morons, then I
don't care how tough the rangers are.
Speaker 10 (23:38):
They can't do it. We're on an empty stomach, exactly right.
It ultimately makes all of our jobs more dangerous too.
If you give some special boys and they got to
do special so they can go grab HBTs or whatever, well,
if they're the only ones in the country, I guess
who the only target is is those guys. You know,
we actually got away with a lot in the War
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on Terror because we had so many other biting forces
of legit, a second Airbourne and Marine gra all these
guys run over the place doing all this other stuff
that also occupy the targeting and allows us to get
the lynch pits. So this all ties together the A
lot of people talk about the teamwork thing like it's
a you know, a cliche thing, but really is true.
It is all one big team, and you're only as
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strong as your weakest link. If you have links in
there that can't get EMO to the rangers out there
on the hilltop, well guess what now they're going to die?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Is that works all right?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Rubio had some interesting things to say about China. Here.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
He was if we stay on the road we're on
right now, in less than ten years, virtually everything that
matters to us in life will depend on whether China
will allow us to have it or not. Everything from
the blood pressure medicine we take, to what movies we
get to watch, and everything in between, we will depend
on China. Ford they have come to dominate the critical
mental industry supplies throughout the world.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Everywhere in the world.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
They've now established critical me uneral rights. Even those who
want to see more electric cars, no matter where you
make them, those batteries are almost entirely dependent on the
ability of the Chinese and the willingness of the Chinese
Communist Party to produce it and export it to you.
So if we don't change course, we are going to
live in a world where much of what matters to
us on a daily basis, from our security to our health,
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will be dependent on whether the Chinese allow us to
have it or not, that's an unacceptable outcome.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Clay, where does our military stack up against China's.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
Five years ago would have been a bad joke in
our paper now, I really don't know, especially because when
you talk about dealing with China, you're talking about major systems.
You're not talking about a couple of idiots with suppressed
rifle in the dark, and you know, get been like
you're talking about like naval battles and aircraft, like bites
and missiles and you crazy stuff.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I have lost a lot of.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
Faith in our navy, and our navy is actually this
is a hard thing for us and for Marines to
admit when you get right down to it. As far
as world power projection goes, the Navy is the most
important branch, and the Navy seems like it has really
fallen apart in the last five years.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Rusty ships too.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
You know, they're getting housed by Houthi's with djidrones and
the Red Sea. The fact that they shot one of
their own fighter aircraft down the other day in their
own strike force.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
For that, I mean, we've kind of lost overappen, but
it happened.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
These are mistakes that it wouldn't have happened eighty or
they wouldn't happened forty years ago with way worse technology.
The fact that these things are happening now should be
terrifying to us. And that tells us that the rot
in that service is incredibly deep. It's the competence level
all the way up and down the chain. And now
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I'm not so sure.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Now.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
On the other hand, I've seen China's stuff, and you know,
for the most part is garbage. But they are getting better,
all right, they are getting better. And if we were
to have to fight them too, it's like Chinese is
gonna come here. China wants to fight or territorial concessions
in his own backyard. So we've always had to be
willing to play the logistics game against them.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
If we have to do that. Now, I'm not that
confident we can win. I'm just not confident that we
can get.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
Our stuff over There are our sea lift, of our
major items that we needed to dominate, and that's that's scary.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That is absolutely frightening.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, Clay, why the Navy in particular, I understand you've
talked about this, that the degradation of really every service.
The Marine Corps gone this way too, maybe less so,
but same same thing. But the Navy it has been startling,
and you're one hundred percent correct. I talk about it
all the time, as much as it pains me, that's
the one we need. If you're going to take out
every branch and leave when it would be the freaking Navy, like,
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you really have to have that. With the world being
two thirds water, you have to have it. Why have
they fallen so hard and so fast?
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Yeah, that's a very good question. I don't know they.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
I will say that seeing this from being around the
serve for twenty five years, it does feel like they
went to the not only like the DEI stuff, but
the Navy, more than any other branch, became reliant on
the We had the superior technology and the superior stuff.
Therefore we can get sloppy with discipline and incompetence because
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if you go back to like two thousand, they could
Our stuff was so much further advanced than anybody else's.
The Navy also didn't except for you like EOD guys
or CBS that they're very small land based components. The
Navy you never had to worry about anything in the
g Watt. I think we all saw that that meme
the fake neighbor recruit again, you know, like you can't
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get killed at the Navy and lest you party too hard.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
That was kind of true, man, it really was.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
So they also haven't faced the same attrition and the
same danger that even the Air Force has over your
last twenty years. Air Force had plane station where the
little commando guys could show up and kill you or
shoot a rocket at you, and they faced danger maybe
systemically has not.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
I don't even actually know when.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
The last time the Navy faced real danger was probably
actually Operation Now pretty managed, like nineteen eighty one in
the Persian golf. So I just think it's allowed their
service to be the most affected, and now all of
a sudden, it's like they're the It's like they're the
aging rock star that's been you know, he's been the
awesome guy, but he's been doing coke and drinking.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Jack Daniels in the green room for the last four
hours and.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
I signed for the main set like you're on, and
he's like, I forgot the words of my song.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
That's what appeels like.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We are in trouble.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Clay my brother, best to you and your dog. Go
buy Clay's books.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I love them. All Right, Well I've done yet, we'll
get back.
Speaker 11 (30:01):
Did any of you throw your rank on the table
and say, hey, it's a bad idea to evacuate Bogram Airfield,
the Strategic Airberys before we evacuate everyone.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Did anyone do that?
Speaker 11 (30:10):
And when you didn't think to do that, did anyone
raise their hand and say we completely mess this up?
Potentially all those people did die in vain if we
don't have senior leaders that own up and raise their
hand and say we did not do this well in
the end, I want to say this very strongly.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I have been fighting for seventeen years.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
I am willing to throw it all away to say
to my senior leaders, I demand accountability.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And he did he do it all way. That was
Stuart Scheller, brave marine officer. There weren't many of them
who did that. In fact, you can count him on
one hand.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
But he did it.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
He gave it all up.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
But he's coming back joining me now to talk about
the military comeback. Wade Miller, executive director at the Center
for Renewing America, sent for five and of course Chase spears.
Former Army paratrooper Afghanistan veteran Chase Stewart is coming back
as a senior advisor to the Department of Defense.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
I like a lot of what I see.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
In fact, I like about everything I see right now
as it pertains to the new military we're going to have.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Thanks for having me back on Jesse, I share that
encouragement with you. It's this is a wonderful reverse. When
you look at guys like Stu Scheller, when you look
at guys like Matt Lomeyer, when you look at guys
like Pete Heseth, our new Secretary of Defense, who is
also persecuted for having just basic traditional Christian worldview belief,
it's wonderful to see these guys who were treated ill
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when they were in uniform, basically for speaking the truth,
for speaking the things that people in uniforms should have
been saying, for saying what general should have been saying,
and they were cast aside. And it's a new day,
and it's a it's wonderful news for the Department of
Defense to bring these leaders back not just at the
tactical operational level where they were before, but now working
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up at this strategic level steering policy, giving directs. These
are men who had the scar tissue. They know what
it feels like, and they know what needs to be done.
And so I'm very excited about these announcements, and I
hope to see a lot more just like them.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Wait, Pete haig Seth has been out there saying a
lot of wonderful things.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Music to my years, I know, music to yours. Here
was some of it.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Someone who'd served in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Guantanamo Bay
holding a riot shield outside the White House. I'd been
identified as an extremist, someone unworthy of guarding the inauguration
of an incoming American president. And if that's happening to me, Senator,
how many other men and women, how many other patriots,
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how many other people of conscience? We haven't even talked
about COVID and the tens of thousands of service members
who were kicked out because of an experimental vac I've
seen in President Trump's Defense Department. They will be apologized to,
They will be reinstituted with pay and rank. Things like
focusing on extremism, Senator, have created a climate inside our
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ranks that feel political when it has hasn't ever been political.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Wade.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Can we put Humpty Dumpty back together again?
Speaker 6 (33:24):
I think so.
Speaker 13 (33:25):
I don't think it's too late. I think that there
is a lot of damage to overcome. Some of it
has been years in the making. But you know, I've
been investigating and researching woken weaponized topics for a number
of years now, and I am very encouraged by the
incoming team and the conversations I've had with them at
how serious they are about getting the military back to
(33:47):
focusing on lethality and not these leftist agenda items that
are masquerading as you know, serious ideas, you know, like
DEI and anti racism, which is an actually about you know,
opposing racism, and all of these other equity focused agenda
items and white supremacy and domestic extremism. They're now going
(34:09):
to focus on defending the United States of America, and
that's not going to happen overnight, and I you know,
they're going to be methodical about it, but I'm encouraged
by what I've already seen. I think in the coming
weeks you're going to see Secretary Higgsith make a lot
of moves that I think are going to be welcomed
by those of us who are serious about national security
and getting our military back in fighting shape. And I
(34:30):
think it's an exciting team if you're in a time,
if you're a veteran, to see the military going back
in the direction that needs to be going in and
that we've all known, especially if you talk to sergeants
across the military, they've all been saying this for years,
and of course colonels and generals have mostly been quiet
about it because they want to get their next promotion.
(34:51):
But we finally have a secretary who is a secretary
for you know, the enlisted man and woman who's going
to be fighting for the reason that they chose to serve,
which is because they love this country and they want
to defend it.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Chase, let's talk about the officer corps. Let's talk about well,
specifically the military academies. These revered institutions. They have been
poisoned all the way down to the roots as well.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
How in the world do.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
You start to clean that gunk out when people are
learning about diversity and queer theory at freaking West Point,
Where do you begin?
Speaker 12 (35:30):
The military academy's jesse unfortunately reflects the reality of what
we've seen across the officer corps. My last job was
in the US Army's Combined Arms Center. I also do
a final stint at Recruiting Command, very Officer Heavy Headquarters,
and you see these theories promulgated throughout, and so it's
going to take a concerted effort. I'm pleased to hear
(35:51):
that we can expect to see several generals who soon
become civilians, but that will not be enough. As I
was telling Matthew Lohmeyer when I was on a tea
on Hall the Stars the other day, the reality is
this cancer is deep. The Biden administration drilled this in
deep throughout the officer corps, all the way down to
the company grade level, and it's going to take the
(36:13):
same initiative to rid that cancer that it did to
take it in. We're going to need to see commanders
who are willing to train this, repeat it, and hold
people accountable. We're going to need some people made examples of.
Just like we have annual trainings that push this DEI
crap into the military, we need to have much more
frequent trainings pulling it out. And commanders are going to
(36:35):
have to prove to their troops through actions. Hey, it's
safe now you don't have to call people like refram
amm and where that you're going to get in trouble
for it anymore. You can now be a regular American
serving your nation, acting patriotically, defending the Constitution, and not
have to live in fear because of that anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Speaking of making an example of people, this lady common
to former Commandant of the Coast Guard, Linda Fagen or Fagan,
I don't know how to say her name here.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
She was.
Speaker 14 (37:06):
We currently have nearly forty percent women enrolled at the
Coastguard Academy. I'm really excited about the talent and the
diversity that I see coming through the academy. My daughter
is in the Coastguard as a lieutenant, and there is
just nothing but opportunity for her and all of the
men and women that have joined the service. I'm really
excited about the future as we look ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So that's one commandant down.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Ms Fagin can go back to the civilian world, wage
how many others.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Have to go?
Speaker 13 (37:37):
Well, you know, we'll defer to the leadership team of
Secretary Haig Sith, But you know, one comes to mind,
General C. Q. Brown he's the head of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff. He wrote a memo literally saying that
one of his objectives was to have less white officers,
essentially setting forth a racial quota system that he wanted
to do implement. I think that that type of, you know, leadership,
(38:00):
is toxic and it's frankly, should be a violation of
the law, and anyone who's been espousing that type of
overt racism should be let go. I think that that's
a bad command environment to have someone like that leading
the military, and so I'm hoping that we'll see soon
that names like that are included.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Chase, you wrote an article, good article for Red Steak
called it's time for conservatives in the military to fight.
What are you talking about and what's your plea to
the enlisted guys there?
Speaker 12 (38:38):
My plea, Jesse, is for people that are still serving
right now in the ranks, to understand this fight for
the military, for the nation is not just one that
is the responsibility of our civilian policymakers. Now to be clear,
it is the responsibility of our civilian policy makers. Is
the responsibility of voters, It's the responsibility of veterans, it's
(38:59):
the responsibility of you and me, but it's also the
responsibility of those who are currently in the ranks. I've
talked to so many people in the ranks over the
last few years, when I was still on active duty
and now that I'm a retiree who said things like, look,
we were conservatives. We believe the things that we see
you saying. We believe in constitutionality, but we dare not
(39:19):
say this out loud because we might get in trouble. Well,
that's what people who are willing to stand guard for
the nation are willing to do. They're willing to take
those chances. How are we going to call ourselves warriors
and say that we're willing to go stand between the
enemies of the nation and a bullet if we won't
stand between a slide and our troops when it comes
to indoctrination. So my plea is not for people to
(39:41):
rise up in the ranks.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
My plea is not for.
Speaker 12 (39:43):
Any discontent or any breakdown of discipline. My plea is this,
obey lawful orders, report unlawful orders. Report those who give
you unlawful orders. Be willing to stand against the lie
ASSUALTSA needs and said, let the lie come but not
through us. And for too long conservatives in the ranks
have set on their hands and said it's someone else's problem.
(40:05):
I'm afraid the tide has turned. It is now time
to say the light would no longer come through me.
I'm not going to participate in this through inaction or action.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Wait, wepping things up here.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
How do we handle the defense contractor cabal. I mean,
we do need defense contractors, we need people designing and
producing wonderful new weapons to give us an edge. But
what we have now is gross, it's corrupt. I mean,
it's not going to work long term. How do we
fix that?
Speaker 13 (40:35):
Well, I think we need to audit and review that
entire process, including by the way. I think that we
need to have affirmations that subcontractors aren't participating in things
like DEI and other systems. It would be deemed a
violation of Title seven of the Civil Rights Acts, for instance.
Start with that process, and then I think, through a
(40:56):
streamlining of reorenting our mission, I think you start cutting
down certain contracts and figuring out what's actually in the
best interest of the United States of America. And you know,
fortunately we have a good team, a good defense team
going in there. We will have a good OMB team
with russ Vote and others at OMB and so I
think that but the combination of those two OHMB and
(41:19):
DoD that are really serious about getting this country back
on track and getting rid of all the grift and
the corruption and the wokeness and the weaponization, I think
that you're going to see a transformation. And I think
that this last point is really important, and this is
the crux of it all. Pete Haigstth isn't going there
to get a board seat at you know, McDonald douglas
after this, like so many Secretaries of Defense before him,
(41:41):
He's going there to change the entire institution. And the
fact that he's not there for post DoD career money making,
I think is the biggest difference that you'll see between
this Secretary of Defense and almost every other Secretary of
Defense we've had in recent times. And I'm really looking
forward to that difference. And I think it's going to
be a night and day change.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I think so gentlemen, as always appreciate you. All Right,
we'll get it fixed and we'll be back hang on.
(42:29):
A major war is coming. I know that sounds dark,
and it is dark, but it is coming because history
says it's coming.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I don't know who it's going to be with. We
all think, oh, that's going to be China or Russia.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
But I don't know, and I don't know when. I
don't know if it'll be next month. I don't know
if it'll be ten years, fifty.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Years from now. But it is coming.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
We know that, and we hear in the United States
of America have been so blessed that we just kind
of we don't look at those as ominously as we
probably should.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
We look at those as.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
If we've always won those major engagements, well we'll come
out on top were America.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
But that is not a given.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
And the entire history of the world is full of
empires as they start to fade thinking they're invincible, military
couldn't be beaten, find it beaten, and find themselves in
a shocking position. And that is coming for us unless
we get things reformed and changed in the military and
(43:31):
in a hurry. The rot has been deep, and it's
been getting deeper by the day.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
We have got to fix that. Let's hope we're going
to dig in.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
It looks like Pete Hagsay's going to dig in, fingers crossed.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
All right, we'll do it again.
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