June 28, 2024 • 42 mins
America watched the CNN presidential debate as Joe Biden displayed to the world what many on the right already knew: he's too old to be President of the United States. This, as CNN rejected partisanship and Donald Trump kept his cool. What does this all mean and how should you feel about it? Jesse Kelly gives his reaction to it all and brings on Megyn Kelly for her analysis. You'll also hear from Dave Smith and Jennifer Galardi. Plus, a breakdown of the huge Supreme Court decisions released on Friday from Josh Hammer.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
If only we had things to talk about today. Of course,
we're going to do debate coverage all over the place.
Megan Kelly's here for that. Got some great news out
of the Supreme Court today. Josh Hammer's here for that.
It is a huge show tonight when I'm right. Well,
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that was quite a night, wasn't it. We just had
the presidential debate, and let's talk about all the good,
the bad, and the ugly, because there was plenty of
everything up there.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Put a smile on your face.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Put a smile on your face, because it was a
really good night. First, a lot of credit needs to
be given where credit is due. Donald Trump, Team Trump,
they deserve all the credit in the world. That was
a debate that was hostile territory. He marched into there
and just pasted Joe Biden. He just destroyed him. Donald
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Trump was so disciplined last night because the moderators, who
I actually will give some credit to in a moment.
But the moderators, of course, tried to bring up several
times things that Trump would make him look bad or
try to walk him into a trap.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And he never ever, ever, ever, ever took debate.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
He was on immigration, inflation, immigration, inflation, immigration inflation. All
night long, they could not move him off of it.
He looked composed, he looked relaxed. He very clearly was prepared.
And look this thing you heard me say before him,
it's you could be walking into a disaster. And man,
he walked in and nailed it. So credit all the
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credit in the world to team Trump for last night.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's one. Two.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I can't believe I'm about to say this, but CNN
did pretty well. Oh gosh, I feel like I need
a shower even saying that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Jake Tapper, Dana Bash.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, they were of course biased, and it would tell
us about climate change and all kinds of stupid things.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
There's no question. But they weren't bad either.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
This debate that was supposedly set up for Joe Biden
under all of Joe Biden's rules, and it was all
of Joe Biden's rules. I thought Jake Tapper and Dana
Bash did pretty well. So that was the good. Another
good is the country now is seeing the man who
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led the country for the last three and a half years. Remember,
last night was just the day that norm and Norma
finally got to see how bad it was.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You already knew. It wasn't some new revelation to you.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You knew how bad it was that man has been
leading the country.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now, let's get to the debate clips. And I'm going
to try to keep a straight face during all this
because I'll tell you right off the bat, I was
watching with my wife, and I was watching with my sons.
We decided to make it a family thing. Out all
kinds of friends and people, Hey, you want to come watch,
you want to come watch. We just wanted to make
it a family thing. So I made my son's watch.
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Sons came down, watched what my wife came down and watched,
and it was amazing to watch this.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It was amazing to watch how.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Bad Joe Biden did all the time, and how disciplined
Trump was, Like this border talk, You're.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
In a situation where there forty fewer people coming across
the border illegally. It's better when he left office, and
I'm going to continue to move until we get the
total band on, the total initiative relative to what we're
going to do with more border patrol and more asybum officers.
President Trump, I really don't know what he said at
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the end of this sentence.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I don't think he knows what he said either.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Look, we had the safest border in the history.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Of our country the board.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
All he had to do was leave it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
All he had to do is leave it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
He decided to open up our border.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That was so well done. And it wasn't the zinger.
The zinger was great. I enjoyed the singer. My kids
laughed out loud at that singer. That's why I wanted
to play it for you again. They laughed out loud,
my sons did. But the part after that is where
he really really did well. And Trump did this a
lot last night. To his credit. All he had to
do was leave it alone. I had it good, I
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had it set up. Remember what that is. It's reminding
people how good they had it. Hey, I had everything fine,
and then you got in there and blew it all up.
It's a constant reminder that things were okay under him
and now they're not okay under Biden. And he did
it all night long. He just basically backhanded him there.
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All you had to do was leave it alone because
I had it fixed, and then you blew the whole
thing up. That will resonate with people and we're seeing today.
It did resonate with people. Now let's focus on Biden.
That's enough for the Trump stuff. Well done, Team Trump.
Be very proud of yourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That was awesome. Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We're gonna focus on the political.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Angle of this for now.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
We'll get to what it means for the country and
all that kind of sad, evil, awful stuff. But let's
just focus on the political side as it is. Joe
Biden's running for reelection. Joe Biden simply could not afford
what happened last night.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
He could not.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Everyone's already apprehensive Democrats, Republicans, Independence, You see this in
every single poll across the country.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Is he too old? He seems too old. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
But then remember Democrats in the media have been running
cover for him.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Wow, that was a cheap fake video.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh they just took twenty seconds out of context. So
everyone isn't as informed as you are norma norma. They
had questions, is he really that bad? Is this just
kind of Republican spin?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
How bad is it?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And so Joe Biden, beyond the lies and everything else,
which we'll get to, Joe Biden had to look and
sound like a functional adult. And I know that's horrible,
but that's the base. That's that's all we want. Just
please act like you're functional. But he had to, He
absolutely had to. This moment was twelve minutes into the debate.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary
person eligible for what I've been able to do with
the UH, with the COVID, I excuse me, with dealing
with everything we have to do with Look, if we
finally beat medicare, thank.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You, President Biden.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
President Trump.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, he's right. He did beat medicare, beat it to death,
and he's destroying medicare.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Ow that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Hurts.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It couldn't afford that. It couldn't afford one of his
infamous brain shorts. It just couldn't afford it. And look,
that was twelve minutes in. Did you do you remember?
Do you remember Joe Biden's first answer? I eventually say, listen,
you were a politico. I'm a politico. This is what
we love. I love this.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I wouldn't miss last night for the world. That's my
super Bowl. Last night.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm sitting down watching every single minute of it. You
probably were the same way, but norm and Norma I
didn't watch it at ninety minutes of that whole thing.
Tune in for ten fifteen minutes. Ah, let's see what
these two politicians are saying. Really, the first five minutes,
ten minutes, as it pertains to norm and Norma, as
it pertains to those undecided voters, those are the most
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important minutes. That first impression, you know when you never
get a second chance to make a first impression. Remember
that old TV commercial. Well this was Joe Biden's first impression.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
We got take a look at what I was left
when I became president, what mister Trump left me. We
had an economy that was in free fall. The pandemic
was so badly handled. Many people were dying. All he
said was it is not that serious. Just injecting little
bleach in your arm, you'd be all right. The economy collapsed,
there were no jobs, unemployment rate rose to fifteen percent.
(08:00):
It was terrible. And so what we had to do
was try to put things back together again. That's exactly
what we began to do. We created fifteen thousand new jobs,
and we brought out the position where we have eight
hundred thousand now manufacturing jobs.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Oh my gosh. So look, you know what happened there.
I know what happened there.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
They knew in the week leading up to this he
was going to have to perform that a teleprompter, so
they tried to get him to memorize little one minute
two minute spiels. So no matter what happened, no matter
what question was asked, Joe Biden was going to give
that answer because.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's the one he had memorized.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Kind of after a week of rest and preparation, that
was the best he could get out bleach his arm
of fifteen thousand jobs. And he couldn't afford that, just
couldn't afford it. And of course it look he's Joe Biden.
He may be old and a sympathetic figure at this
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point in time, but he's still the dirty liar. He's
always been. My blood pressure dig it up a little
bit when I heard him drop this one about the troops.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
When he was president, we still find ourselves in a
position where you had a notion that we were this
safe country. The truth is, I'm the only president this
century that doesn't have this decade that any troops dying
anywhere in the world like he did.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Thirteen of our warriors died in Afghanistan because of that man.
It's not even one of those things that, hey, they
were in combat and people die in combat. He is
responsible for thirteen deaths and he got up there and
told the entire world that nobody had died under his watch.
(09:54):
What a piece of crap that guy is. What a
piece of crap?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
All right?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Now, that was the good good with Team Trump. The
bad was Joe Biden. Now let's talk about the evil
the ugly.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
First.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
There are a couple people I want to call out
specifically here. First, Joe Biden is a dag gone witch.
I'll tell you something. My wife said something to me.
You've heard me echo this before on the show. But
my wife, who's not even heavily politico, said something to
me last night and it was just from the heart.
You know, she's not a hardcore politico like you or me.
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She said, I would never let you go through that
in front of people, in front of the world. How
could his wife let him do that? And this was
her after the debate.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Joe, you did such a great job.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
You answered every question.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
You knew all the.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Let me ask the crowd, what did Trump do?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yes, husband just embarrassed himself in front of the entire planet.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because he's old, he has dementia, he's too weak. He's
not on the back nine, he's on the eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
He can see the clubhouse, and that heartless witch rode
him right back out on stage to have herself another
grand rally as the first lady. My wife told me,
she said, I would drag you to the beach and
we'd live the rest of our lives there and no
one would ever.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
See you again.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I can't believe what that woman did, and so I'll
just echo what she said. I cannot believe that a wife,
even if she doesn't love.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Him, even if she doesn't love him, how.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
In the world could you allow your husband to do
that over and over again and push him to run again.
What an evil witch. And finally, all the media last
night and today crying those crocodile tears about what happened.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they
think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people
down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations
about what they should do about it. Some of those
conversations include, should we go to the White House and
ask the President's step aside. Other of the conversations are
about should prominent Democrats go public with that call because
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they feel this debate was so terrible.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think there's a lot of people who are going
to want to see him consider taking a different course.
Now we're still far from our convention, and there is
time for this party to figure out a different way
for it, if you will allow us.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I think the conversations range from whether he should be
in this race tomorrow morning to what was wrong with him?
Speaker 9 (12:43):
I mean, he has a call.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
This is the last chance for Democrats to decide whether this.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Man we've known and loved for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is up to the task of running for president of
the United States.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Listen, nobody is a bigger fan of Kamala Harris than
I am. And you know, and guy them news and
did a remarkable job tonight as a surrogate, and what
he said. You know, some if I disagree with anything
they're saying, but those two people are signaling to a
whole lot of Americans that are paying attention.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
How come they're not running?
Speaker 7 (13:19):
How come the Democratic Party doesn't have them at the
top of the ticket.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Two things, all those people crying about how bad Joe
Biden is. Are the same people who've been covering for him.
They knew, they've been covering for him for three and
a half years, and now that it was on National
tav and they couldn't cover for him anymore. Now they're
very sad and Joe Biden needs to go. You evil
monsters covered for him. That's one and two. And this
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is the most important part. Every one of those people
is sad. Not because a twelve year old girl was
just dragged under a bridge and raped before she was
strangled to death by illegal immigrants that Joe Biden let
into the country on purpose.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
They're sad because he might.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Lose his election. Monsters in the media in this country.
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, that's enough of me running my mouth.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Let's talk to somebody with actual intelligence and experience at
all this stuff. The amazing thing you can't even compare
to Megan Kelly. Do you watch her show? You listen
to her show. It's on Serious XM, she's on YouTube.
She's a journalist.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Gosh, what hasn't she done? Megan?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
How much stuff have you done over the course of
your career. You have moderated these debates, You have this
amazing radio show, your YouTube channels must watch.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
What am I missing?
Speaker 10 (14:42):
I had a strong career as a telemarketer before I
went to laws post.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:47):
I was not bad at that. I have to say.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
I was selling one eight hundred numbers for businesses and
I knew just exactly how to get them sold.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That is the least surprising thing I have ever heard
in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Okay, well sorry that was a little informal. Joining me now.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Journalist hosted the Megan Kelly Show on Serious Sex sem
Triumph Channel one to eleven, every weekday at new Eastern time.
Megan Kelly, Meghan, Okay. The debate was obviously a disaster.
Everyone's talked about it already. That's not news to anybody.
I'm a little I'm a little amazed Democrats could be
dumb enough to walk themselves into something this bad.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Though.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What was he doing for a week at camp David
taking jello shots?
Speaker 9 (15:28):
I know?
Speaker 10 (15:28):
Well, now the narrative is, you know, as the finger
pointing starts. They over prepared him. Why didn't they just
let him rest? He needed rest? They gave him too
many stats and facts and figures, when all he really
needed to think about was bigger, like that would have
saved him. I mean, it was very obvious that the
one thing he needed to avoid last night was a
senior moment, and he had many of them. You can't
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blame that on anyone other than Joe Biden. But having
said that, we've now seen that we've actually been lied
to repeatedly by a team of people who, without question
knew better. It wasn't just spin, it wasn't just politeness
and covering for a few weaknesses by this guy. There
is zero chance that in all the hours that debate
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prep team and his advisors have spent with them, they
didn't with him. They didn't see what we saw in
just ninety minutes where he couldn't even look at him
Look at this video.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
He couldn't even keep his eyes focused.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
He looked like, honestly, I'm going to be honest, like
he'd had several mini strokes recently, potentially where the way
he walked, the way he presented himself, the.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
Way he was looking.
Speaker 10 (16:34):
And they have an obligation for the sake and safety
of the nation to be honest with us about the
wellness of the commander in chief. So I actually don't
think this is just some yet another ridiculous media story.
I think really heads need to roll here and the
people who were complicit in trying to cover this up.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Megan, on top of your journalist and lucrative telemarketing career,
you are also obviously wife. We've had your I love
your husband. Doug's awesome dude. And one of the things
my wife said you've met her is she's not heavily political,
so obviously on the right, but not heavily political. But
watched last night and she said to me at one
point in time, I didn't say it, she said, I
would never let you do that. If I would pull
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you off the stage and we would live the rest
of our years. However, that many there may be on
a beach somewhere or something. How could his wife let
him do that?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And Megan, I can't get that out of my mind,
even if.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
She hates his freaking guts, How could a wife allow
her husband and encourage her husband to do this in
front of the world. If I screw up and stub
my toe, no one sees. The whole world watches Joe
Biden embarrass himself.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
This is his legacy.
Speaker 10 (17:45):
Now she's another Hillary Clinton. She just comes across as
a little nicer, but she's not. She's a power hungry
spouse who doesn't want to give up the trappings of
political power and the wealth and connections that are attacked
to it. Milania Trump wouldn't have done this. Laura Bush
wouldn't have done this. Barbara Bush wouldn't have done this.
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Some of these presidential candidates are driven by their Giselle
Fetterman's right, remember her, I don't know if they're still together.
Terman's wife, who want the office even more potentially than
the man.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
Who aspires to it and gets it.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
And we now know that about Jill Biden, because there
would be no other reason for her to be allowing this.
She still got her mental faculties. She knows what we know, and.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
She knows even more. Look, I'm sure there are you know.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
I don't want to get too graphic, but I'm sure
he's having all of the senior issues that our elderly
parents sometimes face and more.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
And she knows a lot more than we do.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
And she still pushes him out there and comes out
the next day and tries to tell us that he's
on it and that he's going to be the next president.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
No matter what.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
You saw that video of her last night speaking to
him like you speak to.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
A one year old.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You did it.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
You answered all the questions like he's a baby and
he has.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
The nuclear codes.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
Shame on her. I'm disgusted by her behavior, Jesse, I.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Am too immortified.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And speaking of disgusted, this is something you talk about
a lot, you've certainly experienced it. I'm disgusted by the
media as much as I'm disgusted by Biden or Democrats
or his staff, as you pointed out, as you rightly
pointed out, But all these crocodile tears from the media today, Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
He's gotta go. I'm sad he's gotta go. We can't
run with him.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
These are all the same people who covered for him
for the last what five years.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
They were covering for him, and he was running.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
He was a freaking disaster, and today, well, with a
humble heart, we decided we've got to move on. They're
the reason he's there. They covered for this piece of
trash the whole time, and now they're acting. I said, well,
we're just doing our duty.
Speaker 10 (19:48):
Where was your duty before and no one is worse
than Joe Scarborough. He is the chief in terms of
apologists for Joe Biden. Just a couple of weeks ago,
out there telling people who didn't believe his assertions that
he was completely in command and control that they could.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
F off because he knew he'd been with him.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
And then literally this morning, he's calling for Biden to
sub out, to step off of the ticket and let
somebody else sub in, as if it's a big reveal
to him, and watching the debate performance, how dare he
do this? I am angry because I'm an American and
I'm concerned about our safety in the world.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I'm concerned about how the Chinese.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
Are looking at us right now, how the Russians are
looking at us right now. He's a sitting commander in
chief for a minimum of seven months more. But if
I were a Democrat wanting to win the twenty twenty
four presidential election, I would be furious with these people
who ran cover for him, because it's very late in
the game to be trying to do the switch aroo.
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But there was a long runway where they could have
done it. You know, you saw James Carvel tweet where
he out I tried, as you just said, I tried,
he knew, he saw it, he was being honest, and
everybody else said no, no, no, you know, because Biden had
beaten Trump before and they believed he was the only
one who could do it again.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
And now, you know.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
As somebody who's not going to vote for Joe Biden,
I have to say that the piece of me that's
not thinking about America, just thinking about winning this election,
I do ultimately believe it's good for all of us,
is kind of happy because he's not going to win.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
He can't win.
Speaker 10 (21:18):
And even if they do a sub you know, substitution,
it's going to be very hard for them to win
this election.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
I mean, unless it's Michelle Obama.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
And frankly, even if it's Michelle Obama, it's an incredibly steep,
uphill climb to get the American electorate so attached to
somebody that they would vote out a presidential candidate who's
leading in all six of the swing states right now,
Donald Trump right to switch their vote.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
So I really think this is a pickle of their
own making.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
All right, wrapping this up, speaking of the other guy,
what did you think of Trump's performance? Obviously everyone can
nitpick this or that, and I'm certainly happy to do that,
but I thought overall he was this didn't stayed on
message and didn't let the moderators veer him in a
territory that would be dangerous for him. But that's what
I saw with my eyes. What'd you see?
Speaker 9 (22:08):
He was great.
Speaker 10 (22:09):
This is the Trump that his advisors have been begging
him to be, and many doubted whether he could do it.
But he didn't fall for the traps. He didn't allow
himself to get faded. He kept switching the difficult topics
to something that was more helpful. The American populace does
not like what happened on January sixth, and you knew
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it was going to come up. And that answer about
let me tell you what the country looked like on
January sixth was obviously a dodge, but it was a
good dodge. Less time talking about what the protesters did,
the better, And he finally saw that he wasn't nasty
against Joe Biden. When he kept getting needled, he defended
himself and stayed above board. He's the one who ultimately said,
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let's not act like children. He's the one who said
that against Joe Biden, who kept name calling him and
getting ad hominem. And if anybody looked like the grown
up in the room, it was Donald Trump. I think
this is the Trump supporters, not maybe Cormaga who likes
to see the fighter. But this is like the Republican
dream of what Trump could be.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
He nailed it. I give him an a plus.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, he did nail it. Megan, you always nail it.
You were the best. I'll talk to you soon. Thank
you so much for coming. All right, we have so
much still to get to, so much analysis, so many
guests and good Supreme Court decisions.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Today we'll be back.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
The idea that states are able to do this, the
idea that the politicians with, the idea they're emptying their prisons,
the idea, the idea, the idea that we have, the
idea that those people are patriots, the idea that I
did anything wrong, the idea that you have a right,
and the idea that somehow that's the only reason Iran,
and the idea that he's talking about all this being fabricated,
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the idea that we're not doing anything. I put more,
the idea today that he said, is true. The idea
that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, I've got an idea.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Let's talk to Jennifer about this disaster from last night.
Joining me now, Jennifer Gallardi, culture, health and policy writer,
former Democrat, I might note, Okay, Jennifer, please please explain
to me how you can rest for a week, get
drugged up on god only knows whatever they gave him
endless amounts of prep and still be that bad.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Is he just a cadaver? Now? Is that it?
Speaker 11 (24:44):
I mean, the idea that any of us were subject
to that really really atrocious. I mean, yeah, it's bad.
And you know what, I somewhat blamed you. I was disheartened,
and I was sad when I went to bed last
night a little bit. When I woke up this morning,
I was going to skip watching this because I had
a funny feeling it was going to be as bad
as it was. And I said, you know what, I
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can't handle it. I'm too depressed already about the state
of the world.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
And then Matt called me up. He said, you want
to go on the show, and I said.
Speaker 11 (25:11):
Oh fine, I'll do it for you, but you owe
me a beer because my whole weekend is room now.
But you know it's I can't say anything more than
everybody's already said, right, you know, we see it in
front of our own eyes.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'm sad and disheartened.
Speaker 11 (25:28):
Obviously, anybody who's human and has a heart has to
feel for the guy whoever is responsible for taking care
of him, who's his loved ones that are standing by
his side through this should be a Joe Biden should
be ashamed of herself. I mean, honestly, I have a
family member about Joe Biden's age going through a similar
situation with early Alzheimer's or dementia, and it's the saddest
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thing to watch. It's really really hard. So obviously that
made me sad and then a little bit angry to
see that people are still perpetuating this lot, but also
made me sad for the country and really disheartened. Like
this morning, I thought about how lost we are. This
this debate seemed to be a reflection of where we
are as a society, and by that I mean I
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feel like we're going through second COVID right.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
How easily the.
Speaker 11 (26:16):
Media will lie and how easily our country believes these
lies and then when they're caught in the lie, right, Oh, Joe,
Biden's fine, He's so sharp behind the scenes, and we
see Maloney having to take them, you know, pull them back,
and we see all the gaffs and the balls and
the everything we're seeing and don't believe you're lying eyes.
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And when they're caught, they take no accountability. Oops, how
did we know?
Speaker 6 (26:40):
We didn't know?
Speaker 11 (26:40):
Well, some of us knew, a lot of us have known,
and then we forget about it all and then we
move on to the next horse and pony show. I
feel like that debate, you know, Trump had a pretty
low bar to hurtle over, and he did fine. You know,
he hit on immigration, and he had on inflation in
the economy, which are all very important in these matter
to people. But I feel like everybody's missing the big picture,
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and there was no mention of the ideological capture of
our institutions and the bureaucracy which has fueled every terrible
policy of this administration. It is fueled immigration, it has
fueled the transgender ideas, and I feel like it's all
leading us down a very dehumanizing and a very unhealthy path.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You know, Biden mentioned there's.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
More billionaires and millionaires in the country than ever, and
they need to pay their fair share. Well, there was
no mention of COVID and the greatest transfer of wealth
this country has ever seen in the past four years.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
No mention of that.
Speaker 11 (27:39):
No mention of our country being seventy five percent obese,
or well, maybe not obese, seventy five percent overweight, almost
half obese. No mention of the brainwashing of our kids,
the grooming of our children. And I feel like we're
just too sick and dumb and numb to recognize or
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delusional to acknowledge any of this.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
And I feel that.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
We've been duped, and we're constantly being duped and no
one's seeing it.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I feel like, ah, we're missing the point again. This
all felt.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
You know, Trump did fine, and I think he hit
on some of the things, but I feel like last
night was really a reflection of our own confusion and
our own state of delusion.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
No, I tend to agree with you on that now.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I mean, electorally, that was probably a smart way to
handle it. But the truth is, we have this brain
tumor and we just keep popping ibuprofen for it instead
of actually digging into the real problem, and we can
never win. It doesn't matter how many debates we win
or how many times Joe Biden poops his pants on stage.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
We just can never win until we get to the tumor. Right.
Speaker 11 (28:50):
Well, yeah, and I don't even know that it matters
who wins at this point unless.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
We have kind of a change.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
You know, we're going to like you said, we're popping
ibuprof and so a stronger border will help crime.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
You know, hopefully Trump will get at some of the rot.
But I just think it's so embedded and we're so
far down.
Speaker 11 (29:09):
This path that we need to take a good hard look.
How did we get to the point where Joe Biden
is up on that stage debating Donald Trump. You know,
I am obviously going to vote for Donald Trump, but
he wouldn't have been.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
My first choice.
Speaker 11 (29:28):
You know, I'm a little more conservative, and I'm happy
to compromise in certain things, but we no longer have
anybody sticking up for life in this country. You know,
when he mentioned the abortion pell, I was like, wow,
you know, so I don't know unless we you know,
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you talk about this a lot, unless we get more
involved locally, the local school boards. Like I said, if
I had a home right now, I'd be happy to
run for something. I'm still kind of figuring out where
I'm going to live, if I can manage.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Living this close to DC. But you know, we're so distracted.
Speaker 11 (30:08):
Again, I felt like this debate was a distraction and
it's everything we've already heard.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
You know, this is there were no new arguments being
made here.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah there really weren't. And uh yeah, there really weren't.
We don't ever get to the heart of the matter.
And I feel like the GOP in particular, maybe maybe
it's my fault for wanting them to, because they're not
capable of it. Nobody really talks about the heart of
the matter. It's all this talking point or that talking point.
But as you pointed out, very very accurately, we have
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a we have a sickness right now and no one's
no one's.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Treating it at all. Jennifer, you come back soon.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
We've got a bunch of crap we have to get
to now. But you and I will talk something and
I will buy you that.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Beer when I get back there. All right.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
You know, she brings up some really good points about
the look. There was a ton that I could nitpick
right now electorally.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
As far as winning the election in November, it was great.
It was a great knight.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
As far as Democrats go, it was a disastrous night.
Joe Biden looks so bad all that stuff. But what
is our goal? What is your goal? What's my goal?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
In the end, Oh, we have to take the country back.
We have to get back our culture. We have to
get back to.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Being a decent society of free people who fight for
freedom and value freedom.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And we are a.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Million miles away from that. But hey, one battle at
a time, one battle.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
At a time. All right, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Comedian Dave Smith is going to join us next.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
We did well your pot job, by your voice, your
performance sight. Do you have any concerns about your performance? No,
Parder debate a Linar.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Well, that has to be amazing. Joe Biden was probably
not the least coherent person in waffle House at that
time of night. I love me some waffle House. Joining
me now host a part of the Problem podcast, my
friend libertarian Dave Smith. Okay, Dave, I don't know that
anybody speaks for all libertarians. I certainly don't want to
act like you do libertarians are an individualistic bunch. But
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what's the libertarian take on that freaking grease fire from
last night.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (32:37):
I don't know if libertarian theory is going to offer
any insight that just common sense won't. But well, look,
I mean this is I think objectively, there's really no
question it was the worst performance in the history of
televised presidential debates.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I don't think there's a close second.
Speaker 12 (32:57):
It's impossible, I will say, because you know people like me,
and you are interested in politics and in substance. I
was not particularly impressed with Donald Trump. I didn't think
it was his best night. I thought there were kind
of points that could have been made. It didn't have
the feel of the twenty sixteen campaign, where it was
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truly a condemnation of both parties and the swamp and
America first. I didn't like his answer on Ukraine or Israel,
to be honest, But none of that matters because when
one candidate simply demonstrates an inability to walk and speak,
the nuance of the political positions doesn't even come into play.
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Joe Biden from his first thirty seconds was a disaster.
I mean, forget even how you feel about it. The
guy pivoted from abortion to a girl being murdered by in.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Illegal immigrant by It was his choice.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
It was just I mean, couldn't it was Again, There's
been some bad performances, particularly in primaries. Bloomberg had a
very bad debate performance back in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty.
Jeb Bush of course, had very bad. None of them
were anywhere near the disaster of what Joe Biden had
last night. Joe Biden would have killed for some of
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that Jeb Bush energy, no.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Doubt he could have. So, Dave, how how do they
navigate this? Now?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
All the dirty, miserable people in the media, the Democrat Party,
of course, they're all crying today.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I gotta go, He's gotta go.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
But he really can't go unless he decides to go
and hands his delegates to somebody at the convention. There's
no Michelle Obama swooping in to save the day or
whatever these people dream of.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
So what's the plan? That's that's the question right now.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
I mean, well, okay, so what we know is that
we just last night lived through one of those moments
which happened so often. It's really something out of nineteen
eighty four. It's the most Orwellian thing where the media
will have a narrative they're all in on, and then
at the drop of a dime they switch, you know,
like with the lab leak theory when John Stewart made
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fun of it, and then all of a sudden it
was okay you could talk about this. Well, that happened
last night. You're allowed to talk about Joe Biden's age now.
Literally yesterday morning this was off limits. They were all
just a few weeks ago mocking that Wall Street Journal article.
Joe Scarborough was talking about how Joe Biden's at his
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peak and that behind closed doors he's a savage and
he's totally on.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Top of it. So that's over.
Speaker 12 (35:40):
They have now admitted that the Emperor has no close
They can join the rest of us who have been
talking about the obvious, severe cognitive decline of Joe Biden
over the last decade. So that's the first step. Then
there's a lot of questions that come up. Can they
get Joe Biden to agree to step down? Can they
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get Kamala Harris to agree to step down if she
doesn't want to. She's got a very easy card in
front of her. Oh, you're slighting the woman of color.
Very easy for her to play that card. Then the
question becomes, if you can't get Kamala Harris and Joe
Biden to agree, are you better off with Kamala Harris.
At this point, it's been pretty unanimous amongst the corporate
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media class and the political class that they prefer Biden
to Harris for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
She's that bad.
Speaker 12 (36:28):
I'm not so sure that that calculation doesn't change after
last night. As awful as Kamala Harris is, she has
less charisma than Hillary Clinton, and she's got her annoying cackle,
and unlike Hillary Clinton, she speaks like she's taken the
strongest edible you've ever heard of, and like doesn't know
what's happening in the world. But at this point, is
she a better bet for them?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
That?
Speaker 12 (36:48):
I mean, she's not senile, she does have that going
for her, and so I'm you know, your guess is
as good as mine. But there's no question that the
signal has gone out that they want to get somebody out.
It's in there now, that's official. It's no longer just
you know, speculation. They want Biden out.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Gosh, how much of an indictment is that of Kamala
Harris that the debate, there's a genuine debate. Do we
stick with the dementia patient or go with her? Dave?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Well, well, I was just ask yourself.
Speaker 12 (37:20):
I mean, look, if you could remove every sense of
morality that you have or any feeling for the nation,
like if you could just say you're just a political
animal and you're only the only thing you care about
is that the Democrats win the White House this November.
Who and you had to go with one of the
two of them. I think it's a pretty tough choice
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right now. It's not self evident that there's a clear choice.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
To me, man, it's scary that you're right. It's scary
that you're right, and it's scary that they're having this argument.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Cock, Dave, you're the best buddy. Come back soon. I
appreciate you. Oh jeez, he's right. All right.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
We do have other things, you know, this big Supreme
Court thing today, a.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Couple of them, few of them. Big good things happen today.
It's just a great day.
Speaker 9 (38:09):
We'll talk about it next.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
All right, Let's cover the Supreme Court stuff, because these
are much bigger stories. Frankly than the debate from last night.
And Josh Hammer is our resident expert on all this stuff,
so he decided to drop us a little video and
explain all this for US series.
Speaker 13 (38:32):
Hey guys, it's Josh Hammer, host of America on Trial
with Josh Hammer, a first TV podcast. What a day
today at the US Supreme Court. Let's start with the
Fisher case, the January sixth case. So this is a
case involving the application of the two thousand and two
Sarbines Oxyact. This statue was always a very poor fit
for the j sixers. The statue was passing the aftermath
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of the Enron accounting scandal. Another under my view of
statutory interpretation, there is a doctrine called raschio ledgis reasonable law.
Sir William Blackstone, the great eighteenth century English common lawy,
described this as the overarching purpose of the statute. And
when it comes to statute or interpretation, what it means
is that you can't go too far afield from what
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the statue was effectively intended to do. Well, that's what
prosecutors tried to do here. They tried to take this
language for this accounting era statue that on its own
terms has to do with obstructing the evidentiary rulings and
documentary investigations for things like accounting scandals, and then somehow
applying it to the J sixers. So it ends up
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being a somewhat arcane in the Weeds statutory interpretation debate.
We're dealing here with the interpretation of eighteen US Code,
Section fifteen twelve, subsection C two pertaining to these specific
clause quote otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding. Again,
they were trying to take up this broad provision and
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cram it into a shoe box. There the court holds
that it is illegitimate. So the practical effect here is
is that a lot of J sixers are either going
to have the prosecutions dropped or at a bare minimum,
their sentences will have to be reevaluated or reduced on
the back end. Huge ratifications as well. For President Donald
Trump in this case, two of his four charges in
Special councils Jack Smith's indictment to Washington d C. Two
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of the four charges are on this statue. This Sarbaine's
oxyt statute. Massive win for Donald Trump. Two of Jacksmith's
four charges at least now look like they're having to
go away there. It is a massive loss for the
dirtbag scoundrel special counsel today Jack Smith. Awful loss. Two
other cases that I want to briefly note, Chevron defense
has been overruled. Chevron defference was a long standing doctrine.
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The Court fabricated this and the mid nineteen eighties called
mid nineteen eighties case called Chevron. Back then they said
that Article three of the Courts cannot weigh in when
an agency has reasonably interpreted an ambiguous statute that guides
how that agency operates. It was a ruling in the
in light of judicial restraint, but it had the perverse
effect of emboldening engorging the ad ministry of state. Conservatives
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and libertarian lawyers have been trying to overturn Chevron for
years and years. Now is a long overdue good result.
It fundamentally upholds the Marlbury versus mad Is some idea
that given to us by Chief Justice John Marshall in
eighteen oh three that it is emphatically the province of
the judiciary who say what the law is. That is
what this case stands for. Chevron doctrine is done with.
Is a good result for Taming and the Ministry of State. Finally,
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real quick the case that of Oregon called Grants pass.
The Court rejects six to three a ridiculous Eighth Amendment's
Cruel and Unusual Punishment's clause claim that generally applicable homeless
laws are necessarily unconstitutional. Very straightforward decision. The craziest thing
there is that the three liberals nonetheless dissented. Shows you
how kooky much of liberal jurisprudence has become. But overall,
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a good day at the Court and a great great
day for Donald Trump and the j sixers.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
That's a good day when you agree. All right, I'll
give you some final thoughts.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
All right, it's time for my final thoughts slash light
in the mood thing on the debate from last night,
And I think I think it would only be appropriate
not for me to do this final segment. I think
I think Dome should do the final segment.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Listen. First of all, what we saw tonight is the
President making a very clear contrast with Donald Trump on
all of the issues that matter to the American people. Yes,
there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish.
It was a strong finish, strong finish.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
What if we finally beat Medicare.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
What a night. I'll see them all
If only we had things to talk about today. Of course,
we're going to do debate coverage all over the place.
Megan Kelly's here for that. Got some great news out
of the Supreme Court today. Josh Hammer's here for that.
It is a huge show tonight when I'm right. Well,
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that was quite a night, wasn't it. We just had
the presidential debate, and let's talk about all the good,
the bad, and the ugly, because there was plenty of
everything up there.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Put a smile on your face.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Put a smile on your face, because it was a
really good night. First, a lot of credit needs to
be given where credit is due. Donald Trump, Team Trump,
they deserve all the credit in the world. That was
a debate that was hostile territory. He marched into there
and just pasted Joe Biden. He just destroyed him. Donald
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Trump was so disciplined last night because the moderators, who
I actually will give some credit to in a moment.
But the moderators, of course, tried to bring up several
times things that Trump would make him look bad or
try to walk him into a trap.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And he never ever, ever, ever, ever took debate.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
He was on immigration, inflation, immigration, inflation, immigration inflation. All
night long, they could not move him off of it.
He looked composed, he looked relaxed. He very clearly was prepared.
And look this thing you heard me say before him,
it's you could be walking into a disaster. And man,
he walked in and nailed it. So credit all the
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credit in the world to team Trump for last night.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's one. Two.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I can't believe I'm about to say this, but CNN
did pretty well. Oh gosh, I feel like I need
a shower even saying that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Jake Tapper, Dana Bash.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, they were of course biased, and it would tell
us about climate change and all kinds of stupid things.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
There's no question. But they weren't bad either.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
This debate that was supposedly set up for Joe Biden
under all of Joe Biden's rules, and it was all
of Joe Biden's rules. I thought Jake Tapper and Dana
Bash did pretty well. So that was the good. Another
good is the country now is seeing the man who
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led the country for the last three and a half years. Remember,
last night was just the day that norm and Norma
finally got to see how bad it was.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You already knew. It wasn't some new revelation to you.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You knew how bad it was that man has been
leading the country.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now, let's get to the debate clips. And I'm going
to try to keep a straight face during all this
because I'll tell you right off the bat, I was
watching with my wife, and I was watching with my sons.
We decided to make it a family thing. Out all
kinds of friends and people, Hey, you want to come watch,
you want to come watch. We just wanted to make
it a family thing. So I made my son's watch.
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Sons came down, watched what my wife came down and watched,
and it was amazing to watch this.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It was amazing to watch how.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Bad Joe Biden did all the time, and how disciplined
Trump was, Like this border talk, You're.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
In a situation where there forty fewer people coming across
the border illegally. It's better when he left office, and
I'm going to continue to move until we get the
total band on, the total initiative relative to what we're
going to do with more border patrol and more asybum officers.
President Trump, I really don't know what he said at
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the end of this sentence.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I don't think he knows what he said either.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Look, we had the safest border in the history.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Of our country the board.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
All he had to do was leave it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
All he had to do is leave it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
He decided to open up our border.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That was so well done. And it wasn't the zinger.
The zinger was great. I enjoyed the singer. My kids
laughed out loud at that singer. That's why I wanted
to play it for you again. They laughed out loud,
my sons did. But the part after that is where
he really really did well. And Trump did this a
lot last night. To his credit. All he had to
do was leave it alone. I had it good, I
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had it set up. Remember what that is. It's reminding
people how good they had it. Hey, I had everything fine,
and then you got in there and blew it all up.
It's a constant reminder that things were okay under him
and now they're not okay under Biden. And he did
it all night long. He just basically backhanded him there.
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All you had to do was leave it alone because
I had it fixed, and then you blew the whole
thing up. That will resonate with people and we're seeing today.
It did resonate with people. Now let's focus on Biden.
That's enough for the Trump stuff. Well done, Team Trump.
Be very proud of yourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That was awesome. Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We're gonna focus on the political.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Angle of this for now.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
We'll get to what it means for the country and
all that kind of sad, evil, awful stuff. But let's
just focus on the political side as it is. Joe
Biden's running for reelection. Joe Biden simply could not afford
what happened last night.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
He could not.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Everyone's already apprehensive Democrats, Republicans, Independence, You see this in
every single poll across the country.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Is he too old? He seems too old. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
But then remember Democrats in the media have been running
cover for him.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Wow, that was a cheap fake video.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh they just took twenty seconds out of context. So
everyone isn't as informed as you are norma norma. They
had questions, is he really that bad? Is this just
kind of Republican spin?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
How bad is it?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And so Joe Biden, beyond the lies and everything else,
which we'll get to, Joe Biden had to look and
sound like a functional adult. And I know that's horrible,
but that's the base. That's that's all we want. Just
please act like you're functional. But he had to, He
absolutely had to. This moment was twelve minutes into the debate.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary
person eligible for what I've been able to do with
the UH, with the COVID, I excuse me, with dealing
with everything we have to do with Look, if we
finally beat medicare, thank.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You, President Biden.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
President Trump.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, he's right. He did beat medicare, beat it to death,
and he's destroying medicare.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Ow that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Hurts.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It couldn't afford that. It couldn't afford one of his
infamous brain shorts. It just couldn't afford it. And look,
that was twelve minutes in. Did you do you remember?
Do you remember Joe Biden's first answer? I eventually say, listen,
you were a politico. I'm a politico. This is what
we love. I love this.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I wouldn't miss last night for the world. That's my
super Bowl. Last night.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm sitting down watching every single minute of it. You
probably were the same way, but norm and Norma I
didn't watch it at ninety minutes of that whole thing.
Tune in for ten fifteen minutes. Ah, let's see what
these two politicians are saying. Really, the first five minutes,
ten minutes, as it pertains to norm and Norma, as
it pertains to those undecided voters, those are the most
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important minutes. That first impression, you know when you never
get a second chance to make a first impression. Remember
that old TV commercial. Well this was Joe Biden's first impression.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
We got take a look at what I was left
when I became president, what mister Trump left me. We
had an economy that was in free fall. The pandemic
was so badly handled. Many people were dying. All he
said was it is not that serious. Just injecting little
bleach in your arm, you'd be all right. The economy collapsed,
there were no jobs, unemployment rate rose to fifteen percent.
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It was terrible. And so what we had to do
was try to put things back together again. That's exactly
what we began to do. We created fifteen thousand new jobs,
and we brought out the position where we have eight
hundred thousand now manufacturing jobs.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Oh my gosh. So look, you know what happened there.
I know what happened there.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
They knew in the week leading up to this he
was going to have to perform that a teleprompter, so
they tried to get him to memorize little one minute
two minute spiels. So no matter what happened, no matter
what question was asked, Joe Biden was going to give
that answer because.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's the one he had memorized.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Kind of after a week of rest and preparation, that
was the best he could get out bleach his arm
of fifteen thousand jobs. And he couldn't afford that, just
couldn't afford it. And of course it look he's Joe Biden.
He may be old and a sympathetic figure at this
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point in time, but he's still the dirty liar. He's
always been. My blood pressure dig it up a little
bit when I heard him drop this one about the troops.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
When he was president, we still find ourselves in a
position where you had a notion that we were this
safe country. The truth is, I'm the only president this
century that doesn't have this decade that any troops dying
anywhere in the world like he did.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Thirteen of our warriors died in Afghanistan because of that man.
It's not even one of those things that, hey, they
were in combat and people die in combat. He is
responsible for thirteen deaths and he got up there and
told the entire world that nobody had died under his watch.
(09:54):
What a piece of crap that guy is. What a
piece of crap?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
All right?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Now, that was the good good with Team Trump. The
bad was Joe Biden. Now let's talk about the evil
the ugly.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
First.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
There are a couple people I want to call out
specifically here. First, Joe Biden is a dag gone witch.
I'll tell you something. My wife said something to me.
You've heard me echo this before on the show. But
my wife, who's not even heavily politico, said something to
me last night and it was just from the heart.
You know, she's not a hardcore politico like you or me.
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She said, I would never let you go through that
in front of people, in front of the world. How
could his wife let him do that? And this was
her after the debate.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Joe, you did such a great job.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
You answered every question.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
You knew all the.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Let me ask the crowd, what did Trump do?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yes, husband just embarrassed himself in front of the entire planet.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because he's old, he has dementia, he's too weak. He's
not on the back nine, he's on the eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
He can see the clubhouse, and that heartless witch rode
him right back out on stage to have herself another
grand rally as the first lady. My wife told me,
she said, I would drag you to the beach and
we'd live the rest of our lives there and no
one would ever.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
See you again.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I can't believe what that woman did, and so I'll
just echo what she said. I cannot believe that a wife,
even if she doesn't love.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Him, even if she doesn't love him, how.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
In the world could you allow your husband to do
that over and over again and push him to run again.
What an evil witch. And finally, all the media last
night and today crying those crocodile tears about what happened.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they
think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people
down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations
about what they should do about it. Some of those
conversations include, should we go to the White House and
ask the President's step aside. Other of the conversations are
about should prominent Democrats go public with that call because
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they feel this debate was so terrible.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think there's a lot of people who are going
to want to see him consider taking a different course.
Now we're still far from our convention, and there is
time for this party to figure out a different way
for it, if you will allow us.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I think the conversations range from whether he should be
in this race tomorrow morning to what was wrong with him?
Speaker 9 (12:43):
I mean, he has a call.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
This is the last chance for Democrats to decide whether this.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Man we've known and loved for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is up to the task of running for president of
the United States.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Listen, nobody is a bigger fan of Kamala Harris than
I am. And you know, and guy them news and
did a remarkable job tonight as a surrogate, and what
he said. You know, some if I disagree with anything
they're saying, but those two people are signaling to a
whole lot of Americans that are paying attention.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
How come they're not running?
Speaker 7 (13:19):
How come the Democratic Party doesn't have them at the
top of the ticket.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Two things, all those people crying about how bad Joe
Biden is. Are the same people who've been covering for him.
They knew, they've been covering for him for three and
a half years, and now that it was on National
tav and they couldn't cover for him anymore. Now they're
very sad and Joe Biden needs to go. You evil
monsters covered for him. That's one and two. And this
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is the most important part. Every one of those people
is sad. Not because a twelve year old girl was
just dragged under a bridge and raped before she was
strangled to death by illegal immigrants that Joe Biden let
into the country on purpose.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
They're sad because he might.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Lose his election. Monsters in the media in this country.
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, that's enough of me running my mouth.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Let's talk to somebody with actual intelligence and experience at
all this stuff. The amazing thing you can't even compare
to Megan Kelly. Do you watch her show? You listen
to her show. It's on Serious XM, she's on YouTube.
She's a journalist.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Gosh, what hasn't she done? Megan?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
How much stuff have you done over the course of
your career. You have moderated these debates, You have this
amazing radio show, your YouTube channels must watch.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
What am I missing?
Speaker 10 (14:42):
I had a strong career as a telemarketer before I
went to laws post.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:47):
I was not bad at that. I have to say.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
I was selling one eight hundred numbers for businesses and
I knew just exactly how to get them sold.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That is the least surprising thing I have ever heard
in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Okay, well sorry that was a little informal. Joining me now.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Journalist hosted the Megan Kelly Show on Serious Sex sem
Triumph Channel one to eleven, every weekday at new Eastern time.
Megan Kelly, Meghan, Okay. The debate was obviously a disaster.
Everyone's talked about it already. That's not news to anybody.
I'm a little I'm a little amazed Democrats could be
dumb enough to walk themselves into something this bad.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Though.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What was he doing for a week at camp David
taking jello shots?
Speaker 9 (15:28):
I know?
Speaker 10 (15:28):
Well, now the narrative is, you know, as the finger
pointing starts. They over prepared him. Why didn't they just
let him rest? He needed rest? They gave him too
many stats and facts and figures, when all he really
needed to think about was bigger, like that would have
saved him. I mean, it was very obvious that the
one thing he needed to avoid last night was a
senior moment, and he had many of them. You can't
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blame that on anyone other than Joe Biden. But having
said that, we've now seen that we've actually been lied
to repeatedly by a team of people who, without question
knew better. It wasn't just spin, it wasn't just politeness
and covering for a few weaknesses by this guy. There
is zero chance that in all the hours that debate
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prep team and his advisors have spent with them, they
didn't with him. They didn't see what we saw in
just ninety minutes where he couldn't even look at him
Look at this video.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
He couldn't even keep his eyes focused.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
He looked like, honestly, I'm going to be honest, like
he'd had several mini strokes recently, potentially where the way
he walked, the way he presented himself, the.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
Way he was looking.
Speaker 10 (16:34):
And they have an obligation for the sake and safety
of the nation to be honest with us about the
wellness of the commander in chief. So I actually don't
think this is just some yet another ridiculous media story.
I think really heads need to roll here and the
people who were complicit in trying to cover this up.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Megan, on top of your journalist and lucrative telemarketing career,
you are also obviously wife. We've had your I love
your husband. Doug's awesome dude. And one of the things
my wife said you've met her is she's not heavily political,
so obviously on the right, but not heavily political. But
watched last night and she said to me at one
point in time, I didn't say it, she said, I
would never let you do that. If I would pull
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you off the stage and we would live the rest
of our years. However, that many there may be on
a beach somewhere or something. How could his wife let
him do that?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And Megan, I can't get that out of my mind,
even if.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
She hates his freaking guts, How could a wife allow
her husband and encourage her husband to do this in
front of the world. If I screw up and stub
my toe, no one sees. The whole world watches Joe
Biden embarrass himself.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
This is his legacy.
Speaker 10 (17:45):
Now she's another Hillary Clinton. She just comes across as
a little nicer, but she's not. She's a power hungry
spouse who doesn't want to give up the trappings of
political power and the wealth and connections that are attacked
to it. Milania Trump wouldn't have done this. Laura Bush
wouldn't have done this. Barbara Bush wouldn't have done this.
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Some of these presidential candidates are driven by their Giselle
Fetterman's right, remember her, I don't know if they're still together.
Terman's wife, who want the office even more potentially than
the man.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
Who aspires to it and gets it.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
And we now know that about Jill Biden, because there
would be no other reason for her to be allowing this.
She still got her mental faculties. She knows what we know, and.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
She knows even more. Look, I'm sure there are you know.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
I don't want to get too graphic, but I'm sure
he's having all of the senior issues that our elderly
parents sometimes face and more.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
And she knows a lot more than we do.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
And she still pushes him out there and comes out
the next day and tries to tell us that he's
on it and that he's going to be the next president.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
No matter what.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
You saw that video of her last night speaking to
him like you speak to.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
A one year old.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You did it.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
You answered all the questions like he's a baby and
he has.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
The nuclear codes.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
Shame on her. I'm disgusted by her behavior, Jesse, I.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Am too immortified.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And speaking of disgusted, this is something you talk about
a lot, you've certainly experienced it. I'm disgusted by the
media as much as I'm disgusted by Biden or Democrats
or his staff, as you pointed out, as you rightly
pointed out, But all these crocodile tears from the media today, Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
He's gotta go. I'm sad he's gotta go. We can't
run with him.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
These are all the same people who covered for him
for the last what five years.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
They were covering for him, and he was running.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
He was a freaking disaster, and today, well, with a
humble heart, we decided we've got to move on. They're
the reason he's there. They covered for this piece of
trash the whole time, and now they're acting. I said, well,
we're just doing our duty.
Speaker 10 (19:48):
Where was your duty before and no one is worse
than Joe Scarborough. He is the chief in terms of
apologists for Joe Biden. Just a couple of weeks ago,
out there telling people who didn't believe his assertions that
he was completely in command and control that they could.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
F off because he knew he'd been with him.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
And then literally this morning, he's calling for Biden to
sub out, to step off of the ticket and let
somebody else sub in, as if it's a big reveal
to him, and watching the debate performance, how dare he
do this? I am angry because I'm an American and
I'm concerned about our safety in the world.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I'm concerned about how the Chinese.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
Are looking at us right now, how the Russians are
looking at us right now. He's a sitting commander in
chief for a minimum of seven months more. But if
I were a Democrat wanting to win the twenty twenty
four presidential election, I would be furious with these people
who ran cover for him, because it's very late in
the game to be trying to do the switch aroo.
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But there was a long runway where they could have
done it. You know, you saw James Carvel tweet where
he out I tried, as you just said, I tried,
he knew, he saw it, he was being honest, and
everybody else said no, no, no, you know, because Biden had
beaten Trump before and they believed he was the only
one who could do it again.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
And now, you know.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
As somebody who's not going to vote for Joe Biden,
I have to say that the piece of me that's
not thinking about America, just thinking about winning this election,
I do ultimately believe it's good for all of us,
is kind of happy because he's not going to win.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
He can't win.
Speaker 10 (21:18):
And even if they do a sub you know, substitution,
it's going to be very hard for them to win
this election.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
I mean, unless it's Michelle Obama.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
And frankly, even if it's Michelle Obama, it's an incredibly steep,
uphill climb to get the American electorate so attached to
somebody that they would vote out a presidential candidate who's
leading in all six of the swing states right now,
Donald Trump right to switch their vote.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
So I really think this is a pickle of their
own making.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
All right, wrapping this up, speaking of the other guy,
what did you think of Trump's performance? Obviously everyone can
nitpick this or that, and I'm certainly happy to do that,
but I thought overall he was this didn't stayed on
message and didn't let the moderators veer him in a
territory that would be dangerous for him. But that's what
I saw with my eyes. What'd you see?
Speaker 9 (22:08):
He was great.
Speaker 10 (22:09):
This is the Trump that his advisors have been begging
him to be, and many doubted whether he could do it.
But he didn't fall for the traps. He didn't allow
himself to get faded. He kept switching the difficult topics
to something that was more helpful. The American populace does
not like what happened on January sixth, and you knew
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it was going to come up. And that answer about
let me tell you what the country looked like on
January sixth was obviously a dodge, but it was a
good dodge. Less time talking about what the protesters did,
the better, And he finally saw that he wasn't nasty
against Joe Biden. When he kept getting needled, he defended
himself and stayed above board. He's the one who ultimately said,
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let's not act like children. He's the one who said
that against Joe Biden, who kept name calling him and
getting ad hominem. And if anybody looked like the grown
up in the room, it was Donald Trump. I think
this is the Trump supporters, not maybe Cormaga who likes
to see the fighter. But this is like the Republican
dream of what Trump could be.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
He nailed it. I give him an a plus.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, he did nail it. Megan, you always nail it.
You were the best. I'll talk to you soon. Thank
you so much for coming. All right, we have so
much still to get to, so much analysis, so many
guests and good Supreme Court decisions.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Today we'll be back.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
The idea that states are able to do this, the
idea that the politicians with, the idea they're emptying their prisons,
the idea, the idea, the idea that we have, the
idea that those people are patriots, the idea that I
did anything wrong, the idea that you have a right,
and the idea that somehow that's the only reason Iran,
and the idea that he's talking about all this being fabricated,
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the idea that we're not doing anything. I put more,
the idea today that he said, is true. The idea
that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, I've got an idea.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Let's talk to Jennifer about this disaster from last night.
Joining me now, Jennifer Gallardi, culture, health and policy writer,
former Democrat, I might note, Okay, Jennifer, please please explain
to me how you can rest for a week, get
drugged up on god only knows whatever they gave him
endless amounts of prep and still be that bad.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Is he just a cadaver? Now? Is that it?
Speaker 11 (24:44):
I mean, the idea that any of us were subject
to that really really atrocious. I mean, yeah, it's bad.
And you know what, I somewhat blamed you. I was disheartened,
and I was sad when I went to bed last
night a little bit. When I woke up this morning,
I was going to skip watching this because I had
a funny feeling it was going to be as bad
as it was. And I said, you know what, I
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can't handle it. I'm too depressed already about the state
of the world.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
And then Matt called me up. He said, you want
to go on the show, and I said.
Speaker 11 (25:11):
Oh fine, I'll do it for you, but you owe
me a beer because my whole weekend is room now.
But you know it's I can't say anything more than
everybody's already said, right, you know, we see it in
front of our own eyes.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'm sad and disheartened.
Speaker 11 (25:28):
Obviously, anybody who's human and has a heart has to
feel for the guy whoever is responsible for taking care
of him, who's his loved ones that are standing by
his side through this should be a Joe Biden should
be ashamed of herself. I mean, honestly, I have a
family member about Joe Biden's age going through a similar
situation with early Alzheimer's or dementia, and it's the saddest
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thing to watch. It's really really hard. So obviously that
made me sad and then a little bit angry to
see that people are still perpetuating this lot, but also
made me sad for the country and really disheartened. Like
this morning, I thought about how lost we are. This
this debate seemed to be a reflection of where we
are as a society, and by that I mean I
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feel like we're going through second COVID right.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
How easily the.
Speaker 11 (26:16):
Media will lie and how easily our country believes these
lies and then when they're caught in the lie, right, Oh, Joe,
Biden's fine, He's so sharp behind the scenes, and we
see Maloney having to take them, you know, pull them back,
and we see all the gaffs and the balls and
the everything we're seeing and don't believe you're lying eyes.
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And when they're caught, they take no accountability. Oops, how
did we know?
Speaker 6 (26:40):
We didn't know?
Speaker 11 (26:40):
Well, some of us knew, a lot of us have known,
and then we forget about it all and then we
move on to the next horse and pony show. I
feel like that debate, you know, Trump had a pretty
low bar to hurtle over, and he did fine. You know,
he hit on immigration, and he had on inflation in
the economy, which are all very important in these matter
to people. But I feel like everybody's missing the big picture,
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and there was no mention of the ideological capture of
our institutions and the bureaucracy which has fueled every terrible
policy of this administration. It is fueled immigration, it has
fueled the transgender ideas, and I feel like it's all
leading us down a very dehumanizing and a very unhealthy path.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You know, Biden mentioned there's.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
More billionaires and millionaires in the country than ever, and
they need to pay their fair share. Well, there was
no mention of COVID and the greatest transfer of wealth
this country has ever seen in the past four years.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
No mention of that.
Speaker 11 (27:39):
No mention of our country being seventy five percent obese,
or well, maybe not obese, seventy five percent overweight, almost
half obese. No mention of the brainwashing of our kids,
the grooming of our children. And I feel like we're
just too sick and dumb and numb to recognize or
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delusional to acknowledge any of this.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
And I feel that.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
We've been duped, and we're constantly being duped and no
one's seeing it.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I feel like, ah, we're missing the point again. This
all felt.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
You know, Trump did fine, and I think he hit
on some of the things, but I feel like last
night was really a reflection of our own confusion and
our own state of delusion.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
No, I tend to agree with you on that now.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I mean, electorally, that was probably a smart way to
handle it. But the truth is, we have this brain
tumor and we just keep popping ibuprofen for it instead
of actually digging into the real problem, and we can
never win. It doesn't matter how many debates we win
or how many times Joe Biden poops his pants on stage.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
We just can never win until we get to the tumor. Right.
Speaker 11 (28:50):
Well, yeah, and I don't even know that it matters
who wins at this point unless.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
We have kind of a change.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
You know, we're going to like you said, we're popping
ibuprof and so a stronger border will help crime.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
You know, hopefully Trump will get at some of the rot.
But I just think it's so embedded and we're so
far down.
Speaker 11 (29:09):
This path that we need to take a good hard look.
How did we get to the point where Joe Biden
is up on that stage debating Donald Trump. You know,
I am obviously going to vote for Donald Trump, but
he wouldn't have been.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
My first choice.
Speaker 11 (29:28):
You know, I'm a little more conservative, and I'm happy
to compromise in certain things, but we no longer have
anybody sticking up for life in this country. You know,
when he mentioned the abortion pell, I was like, wow,
you know, so I don't know unless we you know,
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you talk about this a lot, unless we get more
involved locally, the local school boards. Like I said, if
I had a home right now, I'd be happy to
run for something. I'm still kind of figuring out where
I'm going to live, if I can manage.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Living this close to DC. But you know, we're so distracted.
Speaker 11 (30:08):
Again, I felt like this debate was a distraction and
it's everything we've already heard.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
You know, this is there were no new arguments being
made here.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah there really weren't. And uh yeah, there really weren't.
We don't ever get to the heart of the matter.
And I feel like the GOP in particular, maybe maybe
it's my fault for wanting them to, because they're not
capable of it. Nobody really talks about the heart of
the matter. It's all this talking point or that talking point.
But as you pointed out, very very accurately, we have
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a we have a sickness right now and no one's
no one's.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Treating it at all. Jennifer, you come back soon.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
We've got a bunch of crap we have to get
to now. But you and I will talk something and
I will buy you that.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Beer when I get back there. All right.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
You know, she brings up some really good points about
the look. There was a ton that I could nitpick
right now electorally.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
As far as winning the election in November, it was great.
It was a great knight.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
As far as Democrats go, it was a disastrous night.
Joe Biden looks so bad all that stuff. But what
is our goal? What is your goal? What's my goal?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
In the end, Oh, we have to take the country back.
We have to get back our culture. We have to
get back to.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Being a decent society of free people who fight for
freedom and value freedom.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And we are a.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Million miles away from that. But hey, one battle at
a time, one battle.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
At a time. All right, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Comedian Dave Smith is going to join us next.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
We did well your pot job, by your voice, your
performance sight. Do you have any concerns about your performance? No,
Parder debate a Linar.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Well, that has to be amazing. Joe Biden was probably
not the least coherent person in waffle House at that
time of night. I love me some waffle House. Joining
me now host a part of the Problem podcast, my
friend libertarian Dave Smith. Okay, Dave, I don't know that
anybody speaks for all libertarians. I certainly don't want to
act like you do libertarians are an individualistic bunch. But
(32:30):
what's the libertarian take on that freaking grease fire from
last night.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (32:37):
I don't know if libertarian theory is going to offer
any insight that just common sense won't. But well, look,
I mean this is I think objectively, there's really no
question it was the worst performance in the history of
televised presidential debates.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I don't think there's a close second.
Speaker 12 (32:57):
It's impossible, I will say, because you know people like me,
and you are interested in politics and in substance. I
was not particularly impressed with Donald Trump. I didn't think
it was his best night. I thought there were kind
of points that could have been made. It didn't have
the feel of the twenty sixteen campaign, where it was
(33:18):
truly a condemnation of both parties and the swamp and
America first. I didn't like his answer on Ukraine or Israel,
to be honest, But none of that matters because when
one candidate simply demonstrates an inability to walk and speak,
the nuance of the political positions doesn't even come into play.
(33:41):
Joe Biden from his first thirty seconds was a disaster.
I mean, forget even how you feel about it. The
guy pivoted from abortion to a girl being murdered by in.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Illegal immigrant by It was his choice.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
It was just I mean, couldn't it was Again, There's
been some bad performances, particularly in primaries. Bloomberg had a
very bad debate performance back in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty.
Jeb Bush of course, had very bad. None of them
were anywhere near the disaster of what Joe Biden had
last night. Joe Biden would have killed for some of
(34:19):
that Jeb Bush energy, no.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Doubt he could have. So, Dave, how how do they
navigate this? Now?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
All the dirty, miserable people in the media, the Democrat Party,
of course, they're all crying today.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I gotta go, He's gotta go.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
But he really can't go unless he decides to go
and hands his delegates to somebody at the convention. There's
no Michelle Obama swooping in to save the day or
whatever these people dream of.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
So what's the plan? That's that's the question right now.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
I mean, well, okay, so what we know is that
we just last night lived through one of those moments
which happened so often. It's really something out of nineteen
eighty four. It's the most Orwellian thing where the media
will have a narrative they're all in on, and then
at the drop of a dime they switch, you know,
like with the lab leak theory when John Stewart made
(35:13):
fun of it, and then all of a sudden it
was okay you could talk about this. Well, that happened
last night. You're allowed to talk about Joe Biden's age now.
Literally yesterday morning this was off limits. They were all
just a few weeks ago mocking that Wall Street Journal article.
Joe Scarborough was talking about how Joe Biden's at his
(35:33):
peak and that behind closed doors he's a savage and
he's totally on.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Top of it. So that's over.
Speaker 12 (35:40):
They have now admitted that the Emperor has no close
They can join the rest of us who have been
talking about the obvious, severe cognitive decline of Joe Biden
over the last decade. So that's the first step. Then
there's a lot of questions that come up. Can they
get Joe Biden to agree to step down? Can they
(36:00):
get Kamala Harris to agree to step down if she
doesn't want to. She's got a very easy card in
front of her. Oh, you're slighting the woman of color.
Very easy for her to play that card. Then the
question becomes, if you can't get Kamala Harris and Joe
Biden to agree, are you better off with Kamala Harris.
At this point, it's been pretty unanimous amongst the corporate
(36:21):
media class and the political class that they prefer Biden
to Harris for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
She's that bad.
Speaker 12 (36:28):
I'm not so sure that that calculation doesn't change after
last night. As awful as Kamala Harris is, she has
less charisma than Hillary Clinton, and she's got her annoying cackle,
and unlike Hillary Clinton, she speaks like she's taken the
strongest edible you've ever heard of, and like doesn't know
what's happening in the world. But at this point, is
she a better bet for them?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
That?
Speaker 12 (36:48):
I mean, she's not senile, she does have that going
for her, and so I'm you know, your guess is
as good as mine. But there's no question that the
signal has gone out that they want to get somebody out.
It's in there now, that's official. It's no longer just
you know, speculation. They want Biden out.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Gosh, how much of an indictment is that of Kamala
Harris that the debate, there's a genuine debate. Do we
stick with the dementia patient or go with her? Dave?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Well, well, I was just ask yourself.
Speaker 12 (37:20):
I mean, look, if you could remove every sense of
morality that you have or any feeling for the nation,
like if you could just say you're just a political
animal and you're only the only thing you care about
is that the Democrats win the White House this November.
Who and you had to go with one of the
two of them. I think it's a pretty tough choice
(37:41):
right now. It's not self evident that there's a clear choice.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
To me, man, it's scary that you're right. It's scary
that you're right, and it's scary that they're having this argument.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Cock, Dave, you're the best buddy. Come back soon. I
appreciate you. Oh jeez, he's right. All right.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
We do have other things, you know, this big Supreme
Court thing today, a.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Couple of them, few of them. Big good things happen today.
It's just a great day.
Speaker 9 (38:09):
We'll talk about it next.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
All right, Let's cover the Supreme Court stuff, because these
are much bigger stories. Frankly than the debate from last night.
And Josh Hammer is our resident expert on all this stuff,
so he decided to drop us a little video and
explain all this for US series.
Speaker 13 (38:32):
Hey guys, it's Josh Hammer, host of America on Trial
with Josh Hammer, a first TV podcast. What a day
today at the US Supreme Court. Let's start with the
Fisher case, the January sixth case. So this is a
case involving the application of the two thousand and two
Sarbines Oxyact. This statue was always a very poor fit
for the j sixers. The statue was passing the aftermath
(38:53):
of the Enron accounting scandal. Another under my view of
statutory interpretation, there is a doctrine called raschio ledgis reasonable law.
Sir William Blackstone, the great eighteenth century English common lawy,
described this as the overarching purpose of the statute. And
when it comes to statute or interpretation, what it means
is that you can't go too far afield from what
(39:13):
the statue was effectively intended to do. Well, that's what
prosecutors tried to do here. They tried to take this
language for this accounting era statue that on its own
terms has to do with obstructing the evidentiary rulings and
documentary investigations for things like accounting scandals, and then somehow
applying it to the J sixers. So it ends up
(39:34):
being a somewhat arcane in the Weeds statutory interpretation debate.
We're dealing here with the interpretation of eighteen US Code,
Section fifteen twelve, subsection C two pertaining to these specific
clause quote otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding. Again,
they were trying to take up this broad provision and
(39:54):
cram it into a shoe box. There the court holds
that it is illegitimate. So the practical effect here is
is that a lot of J sixers are either going
to have the prosecutions dropped or at a bare minimum,
their sentences will have to be reevaluated or reduced on
the back end. Huge ratifications as well. For President Donald
Trump in this case, two of his four charges in
Special councils Jack Smith's indictment to Washington d C. Two
(40:16):
of the four charges are on this statue. This Sarbaine's
oxyt statute. Massive win for Donald Trump. Two of Jacksmith's
four charges at least now look like they're having to
go away there. It is a massive loss for the
dirtbag scoundrel special counsel today Jack Smith. Awful loss. Two
other cases that I want to briefly note, Chevron defense
has been overruled. Chevron defference was a long standing doctrine.
(40:39):
The Court fabricated this and the mid nineteen eighties called
mid nineteen eighties case called Chevron. Back then they said
that Article three of the Courts cannot weigh in when
an agency has reasonably interpreted an ambiguous statute that guides
how that agency operates. It was a ruling in the
in light of judicial restraint, but it had the perverse
effect of emboldening engorging the ad ministry of state. Conservatives
(41:02):
and libertarian lawyers have been trying to overturn Chevron for
years and years. Now is a long overdue good result.
It fundamentally upholds the Marlbury versus mad Is some idea
that given to us by Chief Justice John Marshall in
eighteen oh three that it is emphatically the province of
the judiciary who say what the law is. That is
what this case stands for. Chevron doctrine is done with.
Is a good result for Taming and the Ministry of State. Finally,
(41:25):
real quick the case that of Oregon called Grants pass.
The Court rejects six to three a ridiculous Eighth Amendment's
Cruel and Unusual Punishment's clause claim that generally applicable homeless
laws are necessarily unconstitutional. Very straightforward decision. The craziest thing
there is that the three liberals nonetheless dissented. Shows you
how kooky much of liberal jurisprudence has become. But overall,
(41:46):
a good day at the Court and a great great
day for Donald Trump and the j sixers.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
That's a good day when you agree. All right, I'll
give you some final thoughts.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
All right, it's time for my final thoughts slash light
in the mood thing on the debate from last night,
And I think I think it would only be appropriate
not for me to do this final segment. I think
I think Dome should do the final segment.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Listen. First of all, what we saw tonight is the
President making a very clear contrast with Donald Trump on
all of the issues that matter to the American people. Yes,
there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish.
It was a strong finish, strong finish.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
What if we finally beat Medicare.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
What a night. I'll see them all
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