June 13, 2024 • 47 mins
There has been a decision by the House as to whether to hold Merrick Garland in contempt. Jesse Kelly reveals what happened and what comes next. This comes as the Russian military gets too close to America for comfort. Jesse gives his thoughts on that as well. It was also a busy day in the world of economics with an inflation report coming out and Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell speaking. Carol Roth breaks all that down. Plus, can't-miss appearances from Luke Rosiak and Paula Scanlan.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Merrick Garland is held in contempt. That's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're going to talk about that some foreigner is spending
billions to wreck the country.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We have the reporter who's all over that, a.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Female swimmer who was forced to swim with the dude,
Carol Roff.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We have so much tonight, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Right, all right, Merrick Garland is held in contempt today,
it's official. How's held Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress.
Now let's talk about what this is and let's talk
about what it's not. First, is this a big deal? Well,
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it depends. That's a terrible way to answer that, because
just stay with me. Is it a big deal? Well,
there's something that you and I are going to have
to get used to. We are going to have to
get used to living in a different country than the
one we have known and the one our parents have
known and our grandparents have known.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Essentially, the next twenty thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Forty fifty years in America it's not going to look
anything like the last twenty thirty forty to fifty one
hundred years in America. Did things are changing? They're changing rapidly.
And yes, you can argue, oh yeah, they're all bad changes. Okay,
I'll give you the hat, and most of them are
bad changes. But things are changing rapidly. We now live
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in a country where the Republican nominee for president has
been wrongly convicted of felonies and might spend election day
in state prison in New York. That's insane. That's the
country we live in now. We live in a country
where the son of the President of the United States
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of America is a convicted felon, and we have documentation
from that Sun's laptop that shows Joe Biden is pretty
much the head of a political criminal enterprise designed to
enrich himself using his office.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
That's not normal. Okay, so normal, let's focus on that word.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Normal isn't what it used to be. We don't have
to go back to ancient history. If we rebound to
the year two thousand and we said the Attorney General
of the United States of America has been held in
contempt of Congress, that would be a big deal, and
it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What happened today is a small deal.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But honestly, are you surprised this is our politics now?
It's all so evil and so corrupt, and we have
so many bad people fighting oftentimes other bad people. And
it's just crazy that we wake up now and the
norms have all changed and they will continue to change
in ways that I can't see and you can't see.
Things are going to get weird, for lack of a
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better way to put it. Okay, so the Attorney General
has been held in contempt to Congress.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
What happens next?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Jim Jordan joined us while Ago talked about what happens next?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You'd have to have a vote on the floor and
then it goes and of course you.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
May wind up in court. You never know how these
things play out.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I don't think Merrick Garlands suddenly going to charge himself.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, So is Merrick Garland going to go to prison? No,
don't be ridiculous. Is he going to be removed from office?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So don't be hoping for that kind of a pound
of flesh because it's never going to happen.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Now, that's it, that's it. Let's give credit where it's due.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
There.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
There is good that comes from this and the House
Republicans voting this way, it is good. They did good. No,
what is the good that comes from this. If he's
not going to be removed, he's not going to be arrested,
then what's the good. Well, Merrick Garland gets to experience pain.
And it's important for Communists to experience pain, because that's
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all they understand. They're religious zealous. They only understand fear
and pain being held in contempt of Congress. It is
a big enough deal, and it is going to bring
about pain and discomfort to Merrick Garland. And because he's
an evil piece of Communist trash, he deserves that pain.
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And the next Democrat age and the one after him
and the one after him may just have to consider
the pain Merrick is going to go through now before
they do their despicable acts. Will they dissuade them? Will
they stop now? Probably not. It's going to take a
rests for that, real, real tangible pain.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But it's something, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And now let's move past the Merrick Garland thing, because
I do have to bring something up. It's gonna sound random,
but it's really really not speaking about normal. This is
along the line of what's changed and the norms have changed.
I want you to picture this moment. I want you
to picture John F.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
All right, we're back in the nineteen sixties and John F.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Kennedy gets up and gives a speech as president, and
he threatens the Republicans anyone who's upset with him, was
sending in the first Marine Division. He says something along
the lines of, oh you're unhappy with me, us send
the Marines after you.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's bunkers right.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's not something you would ever see from a Democrat
or a Republican. Historically, that's not done. The president doesn't
look at the American military and think, gosh, I could
kill a lot of Republicans with that, or a lot
of Democrats with that. However, this line that Joe Biden
pulled out yesterday, it is not a one off. This
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is a line that Joe Biden has used some version
of repeating.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Eric Swalwell has used it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Media members have used it time and time and time again.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now it has become part of the Democrat.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Language that they threaten us with military force.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
By the way, if they want to take is to
take on government if we get out of line, which
they're talking on again about, well guess what they need
F fifteen's they don't need, is it rifle.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So why is that something that they come up with
so often? Why would that come out of their mouths?
Eric Swalwell threatened to drop nuclear weapons on American people.
You can't take on the government. We've got nookes, Joe Biden,
all of them every day. Yeah, good luck, We've got
f thirty fives. Why does that come out of their
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mouths because they think about it. Remember, the great story
on the planet right now is Western government turning their
guns inward against their own citizens. The people who run
Western society, most definitely America. They don't lay awake at
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night stressing and straining about ISIS or Russia or China
or the border or inflation or any of these things.
What really drives these people crazy, what bothers them, is
what holds them back from taking total power, and that
is you, the American citizen, who wants to drive what
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he wants to drive, he wants to own all the
guns he wants, who wants to say what he wants
to say. When these people sit around at their cocktail
parties behind closed doors and they talk about who the
real problem is, they always come up with you. And
communists believe in using power. They always have you get power,
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you use power to gain more power. So a communists
like Joe Biden and all the Democrats around him, they
take power and they look at the United States military,
all these bombs, bullets, planes, and they think to themselves, huh,
I bet I could hurt Republicans with that. The saying
this phrasing, we'll send that thirty fives. It constantly comes
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out of their mouths because they've thought about it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
These people don't sit.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Around thinking about Russia, and gosh, they probably should, because
Vladimir Putin has nuclear powered warships parked miles less than
one hundred miles off the American shore as we speak
in Cuba. Putin sent a big boy navy down there.
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Of course, they're calling it for exercises. They're doing exercises.
What we do, quote exercises too. You know why countries
do exercises like that. It's always a threat, it's always
a flex.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Hey, just doing some.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Exercises over here, just let you know we're here, and
I told you this is coming. Last week, we are
authorizing US weapons to be used inside of Russian's borders.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Do you understand what an escalation that is? Do you
understand that that is forcing Vladimir Putin to respond in
kind hate Vladimir Putin all you want, I certainly do.
He is able to remain leader of Russia because he
sells himself as the strong man protector of Russia.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's how he sells himself.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
He cannot allow American weapons to kill Russians inside of
his border without a response.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
He can't. And now we have submarines that.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Have cruise missiles on them, Russian cruise missiles parked off
of our sh Do I think Vladimir Butin's about to
launch a nuclear attack on America?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, No, I do not.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Do I know that? No, I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Do I need to remind you that during the Cuban
Missile crisis, a Russian sub commander, the commander captain of
the boat, he ordered his nuclear weapons, a nuclear tip torpedo.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He ordered it to be deployed. That happened.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Do you know that, by the grace of God, his crew,
his second in command and his crew overruled and overwhelmed him,
and it didn't happen. We have been that close to
nuclear war because of situations just like this. These idiots,
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these morons we have in charge of the country.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm going to get a lot of people killed. Man,
and I won't even mention. Do you hear this? You
hear this out of the Border Patrol from today?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
What do you think this executive order?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Is that going to do anything?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Along kicking board? Three years and seven months.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
In a rear encounter, we meet a Border Patrol agent.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Eager to vent.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
He asks us to mask his identity, worried he'll be
fired for talking so openly.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Job purity order. You don't have the baby.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So does it frustrate you when you hear that? When
you hear the narrative like why aren't Border Patrol doing anything?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
And if I don't allow the cross and Nicolls a
playing nontrollable, how manna lose margin?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
He blames the current administration.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
The administration has ordered Border Patrol to open the board.
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Speaker 1 (12:47):
We'll be back.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I've got breaking news for you as a seasoned journalist.
I'm not a journalist, but as a seasoned journalist, inflation's
really bad.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Look.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You don't need me to tell you that inflation's bad.
We of course cut the official numbers out today, but
you know inflation's bad.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's the most.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Insulting thing in the world when the talking heads come
on and tell you inflation's bad. If you buy groceries, really,
if you buy anything, pay the rent power bill, you're
well aware that you're poorer now than you were before
the official numbers three point three, and of course they're
lying about that like they always do. Joining me now
to break all this down for us, Carol Roth, author
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of so many books at this point in time, they're
all killing it.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Her latest is you will own nothing.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Carol.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Okay, the inflation numbers. Break them down for us. What's
going on?
Speaker 8 (13:45):
All right? So I'll set the stage here. And I
may have said this before, but you know the person
who loves these numbers more than anyone is Oscar the Grouch.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Because the data is trash. It's very hard to rely
on anything.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
And I always feel like it's when the FED comes
out and says that they're data dependent, when the data
itself is not dependable. So there are a couple things
that we know. I'll start with my version and then
i'll tell you their version.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
What we know is over the.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Last four years that reported inflation is up twenty two
percent cumulatively compared to seven percent the year before that.
We also know that that's probably underreported by a factor
of at least two. So you know something forty four
or fifty percent, pick whatever you like. To twenty to
twenty one, whatever it takes, Jesse. But you know what
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we saw today is we saw that at the headline level,
CPI was flat. It was at a standstill from their
reported numbers. And that what they call core, which is
you know, stripping out everything that you need to live,
will strip out food, will strip out energy. That that
was a little bit better than it had been the
month before. And what's very interesting is that they're saying,
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you know, if you take out something like food, it's
actually doing better. Our food was down, but when you
look at the breakdown of it being down, you're kind
of wondering how they even come up with this data.
So they said that food was down, was up two
point one percent, which was, you know, less than they
had perhaps expected. Food at home was up one percent.
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But if you look at different categories, and I'm going
to read from a list here, things like juices and
drinks were up almost twenty percent, frankfurters were up to
seven point three percent, Bacon was up six point nine percent.
Even eggs were up three percent. So you wonder what
kind of food these people are eating to come up
with these numbers to begin with. And that's you know,
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their seasonal adjustments, and you know they're syntheseas and analyzes,
so we all know that it's trash. We all know
that there's going to be revised over and over again.
And at the end of the day, what we know
more than anything is that Americans are struggling. They're struggling
with the food, they're struggling with rent, with energy, their
basic cost of living. And it doesn't matter what a
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chart or a graph says at any one point in time,
that does not negate the lived experience of the American people.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Let's talk about rent, Carol, because that's one of the
numbers that is eye popping out there. Rent itself is
way up, and since apparently we're all going to become
renters at some point in time, as they make it
more and more impossible to own a home, that seems
like it's a pretty big deal. Why is rent so
far up everywhere I look? Now they're building new apartments.
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Shouldn't that mean rent goes down?
Speaker 8 (16:33):
I mean, at some point in time, if they bought
they built enough, it would. But this is a supply
and demand issue, and as we know, it's hard for
people to afford houses, and those keep going up in price,
and so when people are trying to rent, you get
some sort of a comparison in the market. Well, if
you know, if you're going to be able to buy
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for this, you know rent should be in lockstep with that.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But we would think with the building that's going on that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Eventually it would catch up.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
But of course we keep letting millions of people into
our country who all need to have housing.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Now.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Granted we're just paying for that out of taxpayer dollars
right now, but maybe some of them.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Want to move into their own housing to begin with.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
If you look back after the Great Recession of financial crisis,
for crisis, there was a severe underbuilding of homes because
obviously there was you know, all of that supply in
the market, but that continued to carry on and I've
seen estimates anywhere between you know.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
A few million and four to five million homes that
the estimate is that we are under built.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
So you know, you may see a lot going up,
but you're probably not seeing millions of them going up.
And with that supply demand dynamic, that's why you're seeing
rents go up so much.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Okay, Jerome pile fed chair talk today about rates and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And look, we're all are.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Interested now in what this guy has to say because
we all want interest rates to go back down, but
we want inflation to go down to and sadly those
two things don't go hand in hand. Forget about what
he said. What is the kil Roth takeaway from what
he said today?
Speaker 8 (18:13):
The takeaway is the same as it's always been, which
is that we should get rid of the fed, that
these people have no idea what they're doing, and that
they're in a losing battle. The reality is that anything
that they're doing is not going to impact inflation unless
they crank rates up so high that they tank the
entire economy, which is something that even though you think
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they might want to do, they don't want to do
it at that level. They just want to make it,
you know, a slow boil, not a big boil, all
at one point in time. So they're really between a
rock and a hard place. If it were me, I
would be lowering rates, and I would be lowering rates
because I don't believe if you, let's say, lowered a
percentage point, that that was going to unleash all of
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this huge buying power in the US economy. The reality
is the business have already locked down debt over the
fifteen years of zero to near zero interest rates. The
same thing with consumers if they had the ability to at.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
That point in time.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
So I don't think that that's going to unleash inflation.
But what it would do, Jesse, is it would make
the borrowing cost for the government less, and that is
a huge piece of this inflation that's going to make
it sticky that people aren't talking about. The fact is
we have massive deficits that are being run to window
dress growth in the economy, and they have to be
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financed at these ever increasing interest rates, these super high
fifteen year high interest rates. And not only do we
have to finance those new deficits, that new deficit spending,
but our existing debt.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
We have a lot of that that's.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Coming due because they've been instead of putting out thirty
year bonds, they've been putting out one month or two
months or one year notes, and so a lot of
debt needs to be refinanced in the market, and this
needs to be done at these super high rates. So
if the FED is not getting any help from the
government on the spending side, they should be helping them
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out by at least helping that financing come down a
little bit. And you know, God, God blessed whoever ends
up being presidents the next time around, because everything that
has been done by this administration is window dressing and
kicking that can down the road, and we're going to
have a really tough time ahead if we don't get
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some seriousness and they're doing everything they can to you know,
paint over the cracks just enough through the election, and all.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Of that is going to show up after the election.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Okay, So tell me this, Carol, when this next fiscal
crisis gets here, it's obviously inevitable. It doesn't take no
Stradamis to figure out when's coming, whatever that looks.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Like, when it gets here.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
If we don't have Joe Biden in office, can we
grow our way out of the pay I know there's
going to be pain, but is it possible maybe we
can deregulate this economy to grow it to the point
that we you and I won't feel it the way
we might have felt it otherwise. Is that realistic or
is that pie in the sky thinking?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So there is a growth scenario, but imagine that at
like threading a needle, like it has to be done
at a perfect tenor otherwise you anything that stokes inflation
or deflation related to how that growth comes about could
end up creating a new set of problems.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
There also could be some sort of a productivity.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
Miracle that we've talked about before, a breakthrough in quantum computing,
or some kind of an energy miracle, but again that
would have to be done in sort of a perfect
way that it doesn't disrupt everything. The real likelihood of
getting a solution here would be through some combination of
growth and spending reforms, but we know the reality is
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that that's probably not going to happen because Congress doesn't
have the political will no matter who's in there, in
order to do that. So the most likely trajectory is
our is door number three, which is the Zong, and
that means that we are continuing to finance the overspending
and the continued spending with debts, and eventually, because we
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don't have enough buyers at the rates that we have today,
that either the rates are going to go up, which
would cause chaos in the treasury market and tank everything anyway,
or more likely, the Fed steps in either directly or
through some crazy program to hide that they're doing it directly.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And buy the debt.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
That is monetization of the debt, that is inflationary, that
decreases your purchasing power, and that is that fairy tale
that we have been living through that has become the
American nightmare.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
And so that I think is the reality.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
And it's why I've been warning people that inflation is sticky,
and you have to be owning part assets, assets that
have the opportunity to hold on and hopefully appreciate and value,
because while spending inflates, those asset values inflate as well.
We've seen that, you know, in the past few years
with the stock mar market, with housing prices and so
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on and so forth, commodities like gold, silver, energy and whatnot.
And so you don't want to be the person that
has the cash stuffed under the mattress, because all it's
going to do is denigrate you're purchasing power and that
value of your labor that you've worked so hard to accumulate.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, thank you, Carol for making us smarter again and
giving us some advice along the way.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I appreciate you as always.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
All Right, one of the things that frustrates me is
not just the American left attacking this country from within.
We have foreigners, wealthy, powerful foreigners who wage open warfare
on our system here, and we have Luke rezaiak he
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America and we just allow this. It blows me away.
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I don't like what the left is doing to the country.
I hate it as a matter of fact. And it
grades on me that you have these super rich guys
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right here in America who live, work and worship here.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
They were born here, and they spend their money to
ruin it here. It blows me away.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
But that, honestly, it takes second to me to the
foreigners who do this. Everyone of course knows the name
of George Soros, wasn't born in America, uses his fortune
to wreck this country.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But everyone knows that name.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
They don't know others, And there are many, many, many
others out there, these foreign born guys who take their
fortune and use it to attack our country. It grades
on me. You ever heard of Pierre oh Midya. I
don't know if I'm saying that right. I don't know
I'm gonna American Well, I bet Luke knows how to
say it. Joining me now, Luke Rosiah, investigative reporter of
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the Daily Wire. Luke, this is your story, not mine.
That's why we reached out. I wanted you to tell it.
The floor is completely yours. Who is this Pierre whatever?
His name is, and what's he doing in the country.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Hey, Jesse, thanks for having me. You kind of hit
the nail on the head. I mean, this is basically
the new George Soros. George Soros, if you've seen any
pictures or video of him lately, he's barely barely hanging
in there. And his son is not really up to
the task. I don't think to take over. So Pierro Midiar,
he was born in France and he founded eBay. So
he was one of these big tech guys, you know,
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ten years ago, made his billions and he spent about
two billion dollars plowing them into plowing this money into
left his politics, and he's kind of gone mostly unnoticed
because he's not usually writing campaign contribution checks. He's kind
of found a more insiduous and probably more effective way
to do it, which just fund all these nonprofits that
serve as the minor leagues or the farm teams for
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the White House and the federal government, and so he
you know. In September twenty twenty, the Midiar Network issued
a call to reimagine capitalism in America, bemoaning structural racism, colonialism, paternalism.
It said we needed to build an explicitly anti racist economy.
So this is a big guy who's since the election
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take it over some of the government agencies that basically,
you know, have a lot of influence over the economy,
specifically the Federal Trade Commission. You know, the left talks
about colonizers a lot. That's basically what he's done there.
He's come in and planted his people from his various
nonprofits and a huge number of key positions, you know,
(27:44):
from the chair of the FDC itself to the chief
of staff, associate director, chief technology officer, on and on.
Similar deal with the Anti Trust division of the DOJ,
where the Assistant Attorney General in charge of Anti trust
comes from a Midir group, so you know, and on
and on with all the top deputies. So again, I mean,
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this is a group, the AMDIR network, that pledged to
commit to the calling Evangela Davis, you know, the communist
who was charged with murder and was involved in the
Jonestown suicide cult. Just to give you an idea of,
you know, kind of where they're coming from here. The
other thing to know about Amidir is he really likes
to make it seem like basically astroturfing, making it seem
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like people are saying all this liberal stuff but it's
not coming from him. So like when you hear Bill
Crystal being like as a Republican you know, blah blah blah.
You know he Bill Crystal's bankrolled by peer On Medir.
He's funding like evangelicals to say liberal stuff and can
try to convince other evangelicals to you know, say, you know,
Jesus would be a lib basically same with you know,
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conservative millennials. So yeah, I mean this Pierr a Medir guy.
I mean he's got massive influence in the Biden administration
and it's yeah, billionaire just basically buying the government.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Okay, can you walk me through how this guy how
does he get his people into something like the FTC DOJ.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's not like he can just show up at the front.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Door and say this is my cousin, the dirty commie Sarah,
please hire her.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
How does he get his people in.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
By basically giving them these sinecures, these fake jobs where
they write think tank papers and so on, and you know,
basically they have then the background of being I'm from
this group that's been focusing on this issue. So you know,
they try to pretend that they're mostly focused on policy,
but it seems to me there's a really politics is
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lurking not far behind the scenes. A big thing they're
focused on is artificial intelligence and breaking up the tech firms,
which is interesting because arguably the tech firms like Google
and Facebook and TikTok should be broken up. But when
you look at the materials from this group, they're basically
saying they should be broken up because they weren't liberal
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enough in the twenty twenty election. You know, they only
listened to us our demands to censor like ninety percent
of the time when it should have been one hundred
and so we're going to basically punish them now. So
the government just last week indicated that they're going to
pursue these anti trust actions against some of the big
tech firms, which is a really big deal. It may
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or may not be a good idea, but it seems
to be done here for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
An AI same deal. I mean, that's a pretty big
topic right now. We're not talking about some obscure branch
of the government. But this guy had this whole nonprofit
called AI Now, and they hired the entire staff of
his nonprofit and made them advisors at the FTC. So
again they had the kind of resume thanks to his
money that made them seem like good candidates for a
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federal job. But then they bring their whole network with
them and they're basically their entire background is, you know,
funded by this guy. They've got all their friends in
the government. And so, you know, I don't think it's
illegal or anything what he's doing, but he's extraordinarily successful
at it.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
So they're creating the resume that gives them the credentials
that gets them into the government job, so they can
destroy what he wants to to destroy. Honestly, it's it's
brilliant when you think about it. Do we know Do
we know what this guy's acts to grind is with America?
He made an eBay fortune, what's his problem?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah, America has been pretty good to him. He's an
Iranian heritage, he's from his family's from Iran originally, but
he was born in France. Then he comes over here,
makes his money in Silicon Valley, and now he's ostensibly
taking on Silicon Valley. He has some sort of acts
to grind against the you know, the place that made
him literally a billionaire. But he keeps coming back to
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and his groups keep coming back to this idea that
they didn't censor enough information about coronavirus, misinformation about COVID.
I think they wanted us not to hear about things
like the lab leaku, which is almost certainly true, but
which they were furious about. You know, back arounds is,
you know, September twenty twenty that how could these fit?
How could Facebook be allowing people to hear about the
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lab leak? And then you know, same thing with election conspiracies.
They're just it seems like really mad that you know,
Biden barely squeaked out a win in twenty twenty. Maybe
they think his margin should have been wider. If the
Facebook and Beta, you know, Google, all these guys would
have just had complete obedience to the to the Democrat Party,
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which I think for us hearing that, it just illustrates
how strident this guy's politics are, because to us, it
seems almost insane to be like the problem with the
tech giants is that they're not liberal enough, Like how
far left your politics have to be to think that
Google is too conservative?
Speaker 5 (32:57):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I don't want to let you go without getting the
skinny on this story about George Soros speaking of these
foreign billionaires and Soros himself, Pierre Gascott, Pierre Gascon, George
Gascon See, I've got the Pierre thing on the mind.
George Gascon, LA's DA and elections software.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
What's all this?
Speaker 9 (33:18):
Well, so you know, there was a guy basically Gasco,
who's a far left sorous back DA brought charges against
this election company a couple of years ago, and there
was some conservatives who were like, you know, this is good.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
We think the elections, you know, maybe aren't on the
up and ups. This is good that someone's being charged.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
So when the far left DA was praised by conservatives,
it seemed like he suddenly had to do the opposite.
So instead of prosecuting this Chinese guide that owns this
election company, they wind up dropping the charges and paying
him five million dollars for the trouble of having been
what they say is wrongfully charged. But they don't really
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say wrongfully charged. No one has really answered questions about
what it was in the indictment that that was not true.
Now I'm not saying whether you know, for all, I know,
maybe he is innocent, but no one has explained why,
and it never really got to play out in court. Instead,
they put the prosecutor, the you know, the deputy DA
who was.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
In charge of this.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
They put him on leave and basically tried to make
it seem like he bungled the case. So the development
in the story is that now he's been restored to
his job, they cleared him. No, there's no indication that
he you know, bungled this case and was all made up.
So the question now is if the prosecutor didn't do
anything bad, why did you drop charges and pay the
dude five million dollars for this election thing? So, yeah,
(34:45):
it gets into you know, some of this election stuff.
I don't I don't think all the stories you hear
about election firms are true. But the conduct in this
as far as paying this this guy who was even
if he was wrongfully charged, you don't typically get paid
five million dollars by a prosecutor. So it's pretty interesting
to see this play out. You know, when he was arrested,
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it kind of it wasn't good for the Democrats and
narrative that it's all made up and it was a
little nuanced. When Omen was alleging that votes were stolen,
it was more about some data potentially going over to China.
But anything that was perceived as being helpful to conservatives.
I think there's an instinct among these leftist prosecutors that
they have to do the opposite of anything conservatives say,
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and that can make them do some pretty weird things sometimes.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, no doubt, Luke. I appreciate you as always, my friend.
Keep on keeping on.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Remember that UPenn swim team one with a dude on it.
It was dominating everybody. One of those swimmers. Paula Scanlan,
she's speaking out, she's speaking loudly about what happened to her,
what it was like.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I can't wait to talk to her. She's going to
join us next.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Before we talked to Paula, maybe the thought of a
dude changing in a women's locker room is the kind
of thing that it's going to keep you up at night.
This is kind of gross and it's really freaking gross. Well,
that's why you need dream powder from Beam.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
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Speaker 2 (36:14):
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Speaker 1 (36:25):
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Speaker 2 (36:34):
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Speaker 1 (37:01):
Slash Jesse Kelly is where you go get that.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I think there's a lot to be hopeful about.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
Actually, when you look at the landscape right now, all
over the country, lawmakers are standing up for children. They're
enacting laws such as the Safe Act all over the country,
legislation that protects kids from irreversible surgeries, hormones and puberty blockers.
And even further, these detransitioners are speaking up in a
(37:35):
way that they never have before. When Chloe Cole was transitioning,
there were no people out there to warn her against this.
She didn't have any major media figures saying this is dangerous,
don't do this. You know, several years ago we didn't
have any high profile advocates for women's spaces and women's sports,
and now we have people like Riley Gaines and Paula
(37:55):
Scanlon who are so articulate and really standing up in
st out.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Paula Scanlon, someone should track her down so we can
talk to her about all that, and we did, joining
me now ambassador for the Independent Women's Forum, former UPenn swimmer.
She's one of the ladies who had to swim against
that dude who still had a penis, And we're going
to talk.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
To Paula now about that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Paula, first of all, I'm sorry you had to swim
against the dude in college. That freaking sucks. Can you
please just tell people your story and how all that
came to be? Go ahead, The floor is.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yours, absolutely first, Thank you so much for having me on.
I was a member of the University of Pennsylvania women's
swim team, or of course I had a normal swimming
team experience my first year and then the being of
my sophomore year, a member of the men's team named
Will comes to all of us and says, I identify
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as a woman, please refer to me with she her pronouns,
and I will be joining your team next season. And
of course it happened, it gets delayed, and before you
know it, I'm a senior in college, supposed to be
the last year of my career in swimming, and he
joins our team. He quickly breaks all of the records
in every event that he swims. He then goes on
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to qualify for end C doubleas which by the way,
most people Navy League do not even qualify for the
meet at all. And then he went on to become
the first ever man to win a women's NC double
a title, which she has that photo right there flashing
before me that as his championship win there. But in
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the experience it was, I mean, it was as crazy
as it sounds. The administration went to great lengths to
silence us. We were told that if we objected to it,
that we were the problem, and if we ever spoke
out about it publicly, we would never be able to
get a job. We would be tainted by this for
the rest of our lives and we would be on
the wrong side of history. And finally they told us
if we continue to object, please seek psychological services, and
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they gave us the number for a therapist.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
So I mean.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Us women who object to undressing next to a man
six eighteen times per week we had to do this
six ft four tall man, and again they told us
it again. If we objected, we were the problem, and
no one stood up for us. So I said to
myself and Riley and much of other girls, if we
can't expect them to stand up for us, we had
to do it for ourselves. And that's why a bunch
(40:22):
of us are now speaking out about this issue and
raising awareness to not just on fairness in sports, but
also the silencing of all of it. Again, we were
told if we had opinions on this, we should not
share them publicly, and if we ever did, our life
would be over.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Okay, setting aside just the hebgbi's it gives me to
realize that all those young women had to change in
front of a dude that many times a week. But
just set that aside for a moment. That's really grows
you say. We were told I'm not asking you to
name names. But who's coming to you and saying these
things to you? Is it coaches? Is it professors talking
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about just some dirty commy activist on the quad.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Who's coming to you and saying shut your mouth or
or your life will be ruined?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Well, I mean I can paint the picture for you
very clearly. There was this this day. We got this
email and said mandatory team meetings. This time, pool stands.
Every member of the women's team, you must be there.
And our coaches were at this meeting, but they were
pushed aside into the corner, and they brought in multiple
people from the athletic department, so liaisons to the ad,
(41:28):
the athletic director. They brought in activists from the LGBTQ Center.
They brought in a representative from psychological services. They brought
in a bunch of other random administrators that probably shouldn't
have jobs anyway and are making way too much money
to do absolutely nothing at all. All of those people
were just it was a whole panel. I honestly, I
didn't even realize there was that many administrators that were
(41:51):
available to be sent to this meeting at the time.
But of course, you know, you know, college campuses, the
bureaucracy of it. They find people, and they brought us
a whole panel to try to scare us. And actually
after that they would keep sending representatives in the athletic
department to watch over our meets. They accompanied us on
training trips to say we're here to help. They're not
here to help. They're here to say, we're watching you, guys,
(42:12):
and we want to make sure our message is loud
and clear. And you've heard every single word we've said
this entire season. Shut your mouth.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Okay, So I'm curious you had your senior years swimming
ruin because some dudes helicoptering across the pool beside you,
and eventually you've had enough for you decided to speak out.
Why what prompted that? What was the response like when
you did it?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
At the beginning during the season, I was very vocal
about my opinions of it being unfair, but again, it
was not met with encouragement. Most people told me that
I should be quiet, that it was a privilege to
even swim d one in college, which of course it was.
It was a privilege, but that should not come with
being shut down. That should not come with being told
you're a horrible person because you're speaking truth, noneth the
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last I mean I again. I struggled with this for
a long time, but eventually my turning point is this
this high school of volleyball player named Peyton McNabb. Not
sure if you're familiar with the story, but Peyton was
a high school volleyball player in North Carolina. She was
knocked unconscious by a volleyball hit by a trans athlete
on the opposing team. So a boy playing on a
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girl's a volleyball team knocked her unconscious completely. She's partially
paralyzed in her face, and she went on to not
be able to play sports at all in college. She's
now in college. She just finished her this year, and
she was not able to play sports in college whatsoever
because of these sustaining injuries. And it was that moment
when I heard that story. And that was a few
months after I had experienced what I did on the
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University of PENNSYLVANIASIME team. I graduated. At this point Peyton's story,
I you know, showed up and I was working that
corporate job that they told me I was going to
lose if I ever spoke out. I was doing what
they wanted me to do. I stayed quiet. I had
a job, I, you know, was who they wanted me
to be. I read story and it brought me to tears.
I mean legitimately. I had this moment where I realized, Okay,
(44:05):
what I went through is silencing the locker room. It
was uncomfortable, it was awful. All of those things are true,
but we are now allowing girls and young girls to
be permanently injured by this. That's not acceptable. And it
was that moment where I said, if I continue to
stay quiet on this issue, I felt personal responsibility for
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that happening to Peyton because I had an opportunity to
share what the University of Pennsylvania did to us. Again,
at this point in time, nobody knew the full truth
of the great links they went to silence us. Nobody
knew the full details of how often Thomas was changing
the locker room with us, and I knew that I
was part of the problem if I continued to stay quiet.
So it was really at that point I just said,
I don't care what I might lose, I don't care
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who might call me names if I stand by this,
I stand by abuse to young girls. And again we
were college students, We were aware of what was happening.
But Peyton is a high school student. She's a minor,
and you can't stand up for her. I can't call
myself a good person.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, well, I'm glad you did see. Now there's two
of you on that team with Paul. Good for you,
PAULA Scammon rooting for you big time. Keep going. All right,
let's talk about streakers. Someone streaked a baseball field. Don't streak,
all right, but it is funny when you do.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
We'll play it in a second. All right, it is
time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And you know why they don't show streakers on television
during games. They don't show streakers on television during games because, well,
the thinking behind it is if we broadcast this, this
person's doing it for attention. If we broadcast it, then
more people are going to do it. And they're not
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wrong about that. But the problem with that is it's
the Internet age, and there's always somebody videoing it and
it always gets out. And I don't want you to
ever streak a game or anything like that, but it
is always funny. The dodging of security is always funny.
When security finally spears him or chases him. Always funny.
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I'm sorry, this is funny. I love how there are
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multiple angles. Just everybody put the phone.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
That's a nice backflip. I'll see them all
Merrick Garland is held in contempt. That's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're going to talk about that some foreigner is spending
billions to wreck the country.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We have the reporter who's all over that, a.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Female swimmer who was forced to swim with the dude,
Carol Roff.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We have so much tonight, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Right, all right, Merrick Garland is held in contempt today,
it's official. How's held Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress.
Now let's talk about what this is and let's talk
about what it's not. First, is this a big deal? Well,
(00:43):
it depends. That's a terrible way to answer that, because
just stay with me. Is it a big deal? Well,
there's something that you and I are going to have
to get used to. We are going to have to
get used to living in a different country than the
one we have known and the one our parents have
known and our grandparents have known.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Essentially, the next twenty thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Forty fifty years in America it's not going to look
anything like the last twenty thirty forty to fifty one
hundred years in America. Did things are changing? They're changing rapidly.
And yes, you can argue, oh yeah, they're all bad changes. Okay,
I'll give you the hat, and most of them are
bad changes. But things are changing rapidly. We now live
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in a country where the Republican nominee for president has
been wrongly convicted of felonies and might spend election day
in state prison in New York. That's insane. That's the
country we live in now. We live in a country
where the son of the President of the United States
(01:54):
of America is a convicted felon, and we have documentation
from that Sun's laptop that shows Joe Biden is pretty
much the head of a political criminal enterprise designed to
enrich himself using his office.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
That's not normal. Okay, so normal, let's focus on that word.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Normal isn't what it used to be. We don't have
to go back to ancient history. If we rebound to
the year two thousand and we said the Attorney General
of the United States of America has been held in
contempt of Congress, that would be a big deal, and
it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What happened today is a small deal.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But honestly, are you surprised this is our politics now?
It's all so evil and so corrupt, and we have
so many bad people fighting oftentimes other bad people. And
it's just crazy that we wake up now and the
norms have all changed and they will continue to change
in ways that I can't see and you can't see.
Things are going to get weird, for lack of a
(03:01):
better way to put it. Okay, so the Attorney General
has been held in contempt to Congress.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
What happens next?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Jim Jordan joined us while Ago talked about what happens next?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You'd have to have a vote on the floor and
then it goes and of course you.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
May wind up in court. You never know how these
things play out.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I don't think Merrick Garlands suddenly going to charge himself.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, So is Merrick Garland going to go to prison? No,
don't be ridiculous. Is he going to be removed from office?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So don't be hoping for that kind of a pound
of flesh because it's never going to happen.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Now, that's it, that's it. Let's give credit where it's due.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
There.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
There is good that comes from this and the House
Republicans voting this way, it is good. They did good. No,
what is the good that comes from this. If he's
not going to be removed, he's not going to be arrested,
then what's the good. Well, Merrick Garland gets to experience pain.
And it's important for Communists to experience pain, because that's
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all they understand. They're religious zealous. They only understand fear
and pain being held in contempt of Congress. It is
a big enough deal, and it is going to bring
about pain and discomfort to Merrick Garland. And because he's
an evil piece of Communist trash, he deserves that pain.
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And the next Democrat age and the one after him
and the one after him may just have to consider
the pain Merrick is going to go through now before
they do their despicable acts. Will they dissuade them? Will
they stop now? Probably not. It's going to take a
rests for that, real, real tangible pain.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But it's something, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And now let's move past the Merrick Garland thing, because
I do have to bring something up. It's gonna sound random,
but it's really really not speaking about normal. This is
along the line of what's changed and the norms have changed.
I want you to picture this moment. I want you
to picture John F.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
All right, we're back in the nineteen sixties and John F.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Kennedy gets up and gives a speech as president, and
he threatens the Republicans anyone who's upset with him, was
sending in the first Marine Division. He says something along
the lines of, oh you're unhappy with me, us send
the Marines after you.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's bunkers right.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's not something you would ever see from a Democrat
or a Republican. Historically, that's not done. The president doesn't
look at the American military and think, gosh, I could
kill a lot of Republicans with that, or a lot
of Democrats with that. However, this line that Joe Biden
pulled out yesterday, it is not a one off. This
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is a line that Joe Biden has used some version
of repeating.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Eric Swalwell has used it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Media members have used it time and time and time again.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now it has become part of the Democrat.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Language that they threaten us with military force.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
By the way, if they want to take is to
take on government if we get out of line, which
they're talking on again about, well guess what they need
F fifteen's they don't need, is it rifle.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So why is that something that they come up with
so often? Why would that come out of their mouths?
Eric Swalwell threatened to drop nuclear weapons on American people.
You can't take on the government. We've got nookes, Joe Biden,
all of them every day. Yeah, good luck, We've got
f thirty fives. Why does that come out of their
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mouths because they think about it. Remember, the great story
on the planet right now is Western government turning their
guns inward against their own citizens. The people who run
Western society, most definitely America. They don't lay awake at
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night stressing and straining about ISIS or Russia or China
or the border or inflation or any of these things.
What really drives these people crazy, what bothers them, is
what holds them back from taking total power, and that
is you, the American citizen, who wants to drive what
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he wants to drive, he wants to own all the
guns he wants, who wants to say what he wants
to say. When these people sit around at their cocktail
parties behind closed doors and they talk about who the
real problem is, they always come up with you. And
communists believe in using power. They always have you get power,
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you use power to gain more power. So a communists
like Joe Biden and all the Democrats around him, they
take power and they look at the United States military,
all these bombs, bullets, planes, and they think to themselves, huh,
I bet I could hurt Republicans with that. The saying
this phrasing, we'll send that thirty fives. It constantly comes
(08:15):
out of their mouths because they've thought about it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
These people don't sit.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Around thinking about Russia, and gosh, they probably should, because
Vladimir Putin has nuclear powered warships parked miles less than
one hundred miles off the American shore as we speak
in Cuba. Putin sent a big boy navy down there.
(08:42):
Of course, they're calling it for exercises. They're doing exercises.
What we do, quote exercises too. You know why countries
do exercises like that. It's always a threat, it's always
a flex.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Hey, just doing some.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Exercises over here, just let you know we're here, and
I told you this is coming. Last week, we are
authorizing US weapons to be used inside of Russian's borders.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Do you understand what an escalation that is? Do you
understand that that is forcing Vladimir Putin to respond in
kind hate Vladimir Putin all you want, I certainly do.
He is able to remain leader of Russia because he
sells himself as the strong man protector of Russia.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's how he sells himself.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
He cannot allow American weapons to kill Russians inside of
his border without a response.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
He can't. And now we have submarines that.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Have cruise missiles on them, Russian cruise missiles parked off
of our sh Do I think Vladimir Butin's about to
launch a nuclear attack on America?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, No, I do not.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Do I know that? No, I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Do I need to remind you that during the Cuban
Missile crisis, a Russian sub commander, the commander captain of
the boat, he ordered his nuclear weapons, a nuclear tip torpedo.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He ordered it to be deployed. That happened.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Do you know that, by the grace of God, his crew,
his second in command and his crew overruled and overwhelmed him,
and it didn't happen. We have been that close to
nuclear war because of situations just like this. These idiots,
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these morons we have in charge of the country.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm going to get a lot of people killed. Man,
and I won't even mention. Do you hear this? You
hear this out of the Border Patrol from today?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
What do you think this executive order?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Is that going to do anything?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Along kicking board? Three years and seven months.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
In a rear encounter, we meet a Border Patrol agent.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Eager to vent.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
He asks us to mask his identity, worried he'll be
fired for talking so openly.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Job purity order. You don't have the baby.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So does it frustrate you when you hear that? When
you hear the narrative like why aren't Border Patrol doing anything?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
And if I don't allow the cross and Nicolls a
playing nontrollable, how manna lose margin?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
He blames the current administration.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
The administration has ordered Border Patrol to open the board.
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
I might want to call and tell someone about that.
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We'll be back.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I've got breaking news for you as a seasoned journalist.
I'm not a journalist, but as a seasoned journalist, inflation's
really bad.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Look.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You don't need me to tell you that inflation's bad.
We of course cut the official numbers out today, but
you know inflation's bad.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's the most.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Insulting thing in the world when the talking heads come
on and tell you inflation's bad. If you buy groceries, really,
if you buy anything, pay the rent power bill, you're
well aware that you're poorer now than you were before
the official numbers three point three, and of course they're
lying about that like they always do. Joining me now
to break all this down for us, Carol Roth, author
(13:33):
of so many books at this point in time, they're
all killing it.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Her latest is you will own nothing.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Carol.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Okay, the inflation numbers. Break them down for us. What's
going on?
Speaker 8 (13:45):
All right? So I'll set the stage here. And I
may have said this before, but you know the person
who loves these numbers more than anyone is Oscar the Grouch.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Because the data is trash. It's very hard to rely
on anything.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
And I always feel like it's when the FED comes
out and says that they're data dependent, when the data
itself is not dependable. So there are a couple things
that we know. I'll start with my version and then
i'll tell you their version.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
What we know is over the.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Last four years that reported inflation is up twenty two
percent cumulatively compared to seven percent the year before that.
We also know that that's probably underreported by a factor
of at least two. So you know something forty four
or fifty percent, pick whatever you like. To twenty to
twenty one, whatever it takes, Jesse. But you know what
(14:34):
we saw today is we saw that at the headline level,
CPI was flat. It was at a standstill from their
reported numbers. And that what they call core, which is
you know, stripping out everything that you need to live,
will strip out food, will strip out energy. That that
was a little bit better than it had been the
month before. And what's very interesting is that they're saying,
(14:56):
you know, if you take out something like food, it's
actually doing better. Our food was down, but when you
look at the breakdown of it being down, you're kind
of wondering how they even come up with this data.
So they said that food was down, was up two
point one percent, which was, you know, less than they
had perhaps expected. Food at home was up one percent.
(15:18):
But if you look at different categories, and I'm going
to read from a list here, things like juices and
drinks were up almost twenty percent, frankfurters were up to
seven point three percent, Bacon was up six point nine percent.
Even eggs were up three percent. So you wonder what
kind of food these people are eating to come up
with these numbers to begin with. And that's you know,
(15:40):
their seasonal adjustments, and you know they're syntheseas and analyzes,
so we all know that it's trash. We all know
that there's going to be revised over and over again.
And at the end of the day, what we know
more than anything is that Americans are struggling. They're struggling
with the food, they're struggling with rent, with energy, their
basic cost of living. And it doesn't matter what a
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chart or a graph says at any one point in time,
that does not negate the lived experience of the American people.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Let's talk about rent, Carol, because that's one of the
numbers that is eye popping out there. Rent itself is
way up, and since apparently we're all going to become
renters at some point in time, as they make it
more and more impossible to own a home, that seems
like it's a pretty big deal. Why is rent so
far up everywhere I look? Now they're building new apartments.
(16:30):
Shouldn't that mean rent goes down?
Speaker 8 (16:33):
I mean, at some point in time, if they bought
they built enough, it would. But this is a supply
and demand issue, and as we know, it's hard for
people to afford houses, and those keep going up in price,
and so when people are trying to rent, you get
some sort of a comparison in the market. Well, if
you know, if you're going to be able to buy
(16:54):
for this, you know rent should be in lockstep with that.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But we would think with the building that's going on that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Eventually it would catch up.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
But of course we keep letting millions of people into
our country who all need to have housing.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Now.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Granted we're just paying for that out of taxpayer dollars
right now, but maybe some of them.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Want to move into their own housing to begin with.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
If you look back after the Great Recession of financial crisis,
for crisis, there was a severe underbuilding of homes because
obviously there was you know, all of that supply in
the market, but that continued to carry on and I've
seen estimates anywhere between you know.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
A few million and four to five million homes that
the estimate is that we are under built.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
So you know, you may see a lot going up,
but you're probably not seeing millions of them going up.
And with that supply demand dynamic, that's why you're seeing
rents go up so much.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Okay, Jerome pile fed chair talk today about rates and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And look, we're all are.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Interested now in what this guy has to say because
we all want interest rates to go back down, but
we want inflation to go down to and sadly those
two things don't go hand in hand. Forget about what
he said. What is the kil Roth takeaway from what
he said today?
Speaker 8 (18:13):
The takeaway is the same as it's always been, which
is that we should get rid of the fed, that
these people have no idea what they're doing, and that
they're in a losing battle. The reality is that anything
that they're doing is not going to impact inflation unless
they crank rates up so high that they tank the
entire economy, which is something that even though you think
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they might want to do, they don't want to do
it at that level. They just want to make it,
you know, a slow boil, not a big boil, all
at one point in time. So they're really between a
rock and a hard place. If it were me, I
would be lowering rates, and I would be lowering rates
because I don't believe if you, let's say, lowered a
percentage point, that that was going to unleash all of
(18:55):
this huge buying power in the US economy. The reality
is the business have already locked down debt over the
fifteen years of zero to near zero interest rates. The
same thing with consumers if they had the ability to at.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
That point in time.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
So I don't think that that's going to unleash inflation.
But what it would do, Jesse, is it would make
the borrowing cost for the government less, and that is
a huge piece of this inflation that's going to make
it sticky that people aren't talking about. The fact is
we have massive deficits that are being run to window
dress growth in the economy, and they have to be
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financed at these ever increasing interest rates, these super high
fifteen year high interest rates. And not only do we
have to finance those new deficits, that new deficit spending,
but our existing debt.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
We have a lot of that that's.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Coming due because they've been instead of putting out thirty
year bonds, they've been putting out one month or two
months or one year notes, and so a lot of
debt needs to be refinanced in the market, and this
needs to be done at these super high rates. So
if the FED is not getting any help from the
government on the spending side, they should be helping them
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out by at least helping that financing come down a
little bit. And you know, God, God blessed whoever ends
up being presidents the next time around, because everything that
has been done by this administration is window dressing and
kicking that can down the road, and we're going to
have a really tough time ahead if we don't get
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some seriousness and they're doing everything they can to you know,
paint over the cracks just enough through the election, and all.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Of that is going to show up after the election.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Okay, So tell me this, Carol, when this next fiscal
crisis gets here, it's obviously inevitable. It doesn't take no
Stradamis to figure out when's coming, whatever that looks.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Like, when it gets here.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
If we don't have Joe Biden in office, can we
grow our way out of the pay I know there's
going to be pain, but is it possible maybe we
can deregulate this economy to grow it to the point
that we you and I won't feel it the way
we might have felt it otherwise. Is that realistic or
is that pie in the sky thinking?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So there is a growth scenario, but imagine that at
like threading a needle, like it has to be done
at a perfect tenor otherwise you anything that stokes inflation
or deflation related to how that growth comes about could
end up creating a new set of problems.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
There also could be some sort of a productivity.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
Miracle that we've talked about before, a breakthrough in quantum computing,
or some kind of an energy miracle, but again that
would have to be done in sort of a perfect
way that it doesn't disrupt everything. The real likelihood of
getting a solution here would be through some combination of
growth and spending reforms, but we know the reality is
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that that's probably not going to happen because Congress doesn't
have the political will no matter who's in there, in
order to do that. So the most likely trajectory is
our is door number three, which is the Zong, and
that means that we are continuing to finance the overspending
and the continued spending with debts, and eventually, because we
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don't have enough buyers at the rates that we have today,
that either the rates are going to go up, which
would cause chaos in the treasury market and tank everything anyway,
or more likely, the Fed steps in either directly or
through some crazy program to hide that they're doing it directly.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And buy the debt.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
That is monetization of the debt, that is inflationary, that
decreases your purchasing power, and that is that fairy tale
that we have been living through that has become the
American nightmare.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
And so that I think is the reality.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
And it's why I've been warning people that inflation is sticky,
and you have to be owning part assets, assets that
have the opportunity to hold on and hopefully appreciate and value,
because while spending inflates, those asset values inflate as well.
We've seen that, you know, in the past few years
with the stock mar market, with housing prices and so
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on and so forth, commodities like gold, silver, energy and whatnot.
And so you don't want to be the person that
has the cash stuffed under the mattress, because all it's
going to do is denigrate you're purchasing power and that
value of your labor that you've worked so hard to accumulate.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, thank you, Carol for making us smarter again and
giving us some advice along the way.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I appreciate you as always.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
All Right, one of the things that frustrates me is
not just the American left attacking this country from within.
We have foreigners, wealthy, powerful foreigners who wage open warfare
on our system here, and we have Luke rezaiak he
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joins us. Next there's a billionaire, a French one, attacking
America and we just allow this. It blows me away.
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I don't like what the left is doing to the country.
I hate it as a matter of fact. And it
grades on me that you have these super rich guys
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right here in America who live, work and worship here.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
They were born here, and they spend their money to
ruin it here. It blows me away.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
But that, honestly, it takes second to me to the
foreigners who do this. Everyone of course knows the name
of George Soros, wasn't born in America, uses his fortune
to wreck this country.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But everyone knows that name.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
They don't know others, And there are many, many, many
others out there, these foreign born guys who take their
fortune and use it to attack our country. It grades
on me. You ever heard of Pierre oh Midya. I
don't know if I'm saying that right. I don't know
I'm gonna American Well, I bet Luke knows how to
say it. Joining me now, Luke Rosiah, investigative reporter of
(26:05):
the Daily Wire. Luke, this is your story, not mine.
That's why we reached out. I wanted you to tell it.
The floor is completely yours. Who is this Pierre whatever?
His name is, and what's he doing in the country.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Hey, Jesse, thanks for having me. You kind of hit
the nail on the head. I mean, this is basically
the new George Soros. George Soros, if you've seen any
pictures or video of him lately, he's barely barely hanging
in there. And his son is not really up to
the task. I don't think to take over. So Pierro Midiar,
he was born in France and he founded eBay. So
he was one of these big tech guys, you know,
(26:39):
ten years ago, made his billions and he spent about
two billion dollars plowing them into plowing this money into
left his politics, and he's kind of gone mostly unnoticed
because he's not usually writing campaign contribution checks. He's kind
of found a more insiduous and probably more effective way
to do it, which just fund all these nonprofits that
serve as the minor leagues or the farm teams for
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the White House and the federal government, and so he
you know. In September twenty twenty, the Midiar Network issued
a call to reimagine capitalism in America, bemoaning structural racism, colonialism, paternalism.
It said we needed to build an explicitly anti racist economy.
So this is a big guy who's since the election
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take it over some of the government agencies that basically,
you know, have a lot of influence over the economy,
specifically the Federal Trade Commission. You know, the left talks
about colonizers a lot. That's basically what he's done there.
He's come in and planted his people from his various
nonprofits and a huge number of key positions, you know,
(27:44):
from the chair of the FDC itself to the chief
of staff, associate director, chief technology officer, on and on.
Similar deal with the Anti Trust division of the DOJ,
where the Assistant Attorney General in charge of Anti trust
comes from a Midir group, so you know, and on
and on with all the top deputies. So again, I mean,
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this is a group, the AMDIR network, that pledged to
commit to the calling Evangela Davis, you know, the communist
who was charged with murder and was involved in the
Jonestown suicide cult. Just to give you an idea of,
you know, kind of where they're coming from here. The
other thing to know about Amidir is he really likes
to make it seem like basically astroturfing, making it seem
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like people are saying all this liberal stuff but it's
not coming from him. So like when you hear Bill
Crystal being like as a Republican you know, blah blah blah.
You know he Bill Crystal's bankrolled by peer On Medir.
He's funding like evangelicals to say liberal stuff and can
try to convince other evangelicals to you know, say, you know,
Jesus would be a lib basically same with you know,
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conservative millennials. So yeah, I mean this Pierr a Medir guy.
I mean he's got massive influence in the Biden administration
and it's yeah, billionaire just basically buying the government.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Okay, can you walk me through how this guy how
does he get his people into something like the FTC DOJ.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's not like he can just show up at the front.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Door and say this is my cousin, the dirty commie Sarah,
please hire her.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
How does he get his people in.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
By basically giving them these sinecures, these fake jobs where
they write think tank papers and so on, and you know,
basically they have then the background of being I'm from
this group that's been focusing on this issue. So you know,
they try to pretend that they're mostly focused on policy,
but it seems to me there's a really politics is
(29:45):
lurking not far behind the scenes. A big thing they're
focused on is artificial intelligence and breaking up the tech firms,
which is interesting because arguably the tech firms like Google
and Facebook and TikTok should be broken up. But when
you look at the materials from this group, they're basically
saying they should be broken up because they weren't liberal
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enough in the twenty twenty election. You know, they only
listened to us our demands to censor like ninety percent
of the time when it should have been one hundred
and so we're going to basically punish them now. So
the government just last week indicated that they're going to
pursue these anti trust actions against some of the big
tech firms, which is a really big deal. It may
(30:26):
or may not be a good idea, but it seems
to be done here for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
An AI same deal. I mean, that's a pretty big
topic right now. We're not talking about some obscure branch
of the government. But this guy had this whole nonprofit
called AI Now, and they hired the entire staff of
his nonprofit and made them advisors at the FTC. So
again they had the kind of resume thanks to his
money that made them seem like good candidates for a
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federal job. But then they bring their whole network with
them and they're basically their entire background is, you know,
funded by this guy. They've got all their friends in
the government. And so, you know, I don't think it's
illegal or anything what he's doing, but he's extraordinarily successful
at it.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
So they're creating the resume that gives them the credentials
that gets them into the government job, so they can
destroy what he wants to to destroy. Honestly, it's it's
brilliant when you think about it. Do we know Do
we know what this guy's acts to grind is with America?
He made an eBay fortune, what's his problem?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah, America has been pretty good to him. He's an
Iranian heritage, he's from his family's from Iran originally, but
he was born in France. Then he comes over here,
makes his money in Silicon Valley, and now he's ostensibly
taking on Silicon Valley. He has some sort of acts
to grind against the you know, the place that made
him literally a billionaire. But he keeps coming back to
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and his groups keep coming back to this idea that
they didn't censor enough information about coronavirus, misinformation about COVID.
I think they wanted us not to hear about things
like the lab leaku, which is almost certainly true, but
which they were furious about. You know, back arounds is,
you know, September twenty twenty that how could these fit?
How could Facebook be allowing people to hear about the
(32:15):
lab leak? And then you know, same thing with election conspiracies.
They're just it seems like really mad that you know,
Biden barely squeaked out a win in twenty twenty. Maybe
they think his margin should have been wider. If the
Facebook and Beta, you know, Google, all these guys would
have just had complete obedience to the to the Democrat Party,
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which I think for us hearing that, it just illustrates
how strident this guy's politics are, because to us, it
seems almost insane to be like the problem with the
tech giants is that they're not liberal enough, Like how
far left your politics have to be to think that
Google is too conservative?
Speaker 5 (32:57):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I don't want to let you go without getting the
skinny on this story about George Soros speaking of these
foreign billionaires and Soros himself, Pierre Gascott, Pierre Gascon, George
Gascon See, I've got the Pierre thing on the mind.
George Gascon, LA's DA and elections software.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
What's all this?
Speaker 9 (33:18):
Well, so you know, there was a guy basically Gasco,
who's a far left sorous back DA brought charges against
this election company a couple of years ago, and there
was some conservatives who were like, you know, this is good.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
We think the elections, you know, maybe aren't on the
up and ups. This is good that someone's being charged.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
So when the far left DA was praised by conservatives,
it seemed like he suddenly had to do the opposite.
So instead of prosecuting this Chinese guide that owns this
election company, they wind up dropping the charges and paying
him five million dollars for the trouble of having been
what they say is wrongfully charged. But they don't really
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say wrongfully charged. No one has really answered questions about
what it was in the indictment that that was not true.
Now I'm not saying whether you know, for all, I know,
maybe he is innocent, but no one has explained why,
and it never really got to play out in court. Instead,
they put the prosecutor, the you know, the deputy DA
who was.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
In charge of this.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
They put him on leave and basically tried to make
it seem like he bungled the case. So the development
in the story is that now he's been restored to
his job, they cleared him. No, there's no indication that
he you know, bungled this case and was all made up.
So the question now is if the prosecutor didn't do
anything bad, why did you drop charges and pay the
dude five million dollars for this election thing? So, yeah,
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it gets into you know, some of this election stuff.
I don't I don't think all the stories you hear
about election firms are true. But the conduct in this
as far as paying this this guy who was even
if he was wrongfully charged, you don't typically get paid
five million dollars by a prosecutor. So it's pretty interesting
to see this play out. You know, when he was arrested,
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it kind of it wasn't good for the Democrats and
narrative that it's all made up and it was a
little nuanced. When Omen was alleging that votes were stolen,
it was more about some data potentially going over to China.
But anything that was perceived as being helpful to conservatives.
I think there's an instinct among these leftist prosecutors that
they have to do the opposite of anything conservatives say,
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and that can make them do some pretty weird things sometimes.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, no doubt, Luke. I appreciate you as always, my friend.
Keep on keeping on.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Remember that UPenn swim team one with a dude on it.
It was dominating everybody. One of those swimmers. Paula Scanlan,
she's speaking out, she's speaking loudly about what happened to her,
what it was like.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I can't wait to talk to her. She's going to
join us next.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Before we talked to Paula, maybe the thought of a
dude changing in a women's locker room is the kind
of thing that it's going to keep you up at night.
This is kind of gross and it's really freaking gross. Well,
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Speaker 1 (37:01):
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Speaker 3 (37:09):
I think there's a lot to be hopeful about.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
Actually, when you look at the landscape right now, all
over the country, lawmakers are standing up for children. They're
enacting laws such as the Safe Act all over the country,
legislation that protects kids from irreversible surgeries, hormones and puberty blockers.
And even further, these detransitioners are speaking up in a
(37:35):
way that they never have before. When Chloe Cole was transitioning,
there were no people out there to warn her against this.
She didn't have any major media figures saying this is dangerous,
don't do this. You know, several years ago we didn't
have any high profile advocates for women's spaces and women's sports,
and now we have people like Riley Gaines and Paula
(37:55):
Scanlon who are so articulate and really standing up in
st out.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Paula Scanlon, someone should track her down so we can
talk to her about all that, and we did, joining
me now ambassador for the Independent Women's Forum, former UPenn swimmer.
She's one of the ladies who had to swim against
that dude who still had a penis, And we're going
to talk.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
To Paula now about that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Paula, first of all, I'm sorry you had to swim
against the dude in college. That freaking sucks. Can you
please just tell people your story and how all that
came to be? Go ahead, The floor is.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yours, absolutely first, Thank you so much for having me on.
I was a member of the University of Pennsylvania women's
swim team, or of course I had a normal swimming
team experience my first year and then the being of
my sophomore year, a member of the men's team named
Will comes to all of us and says, I identify
(38:50):
as a woman, please refer to me with she her pronouns,
and I will be joining your team next season. And
of course it happened, it gets delayed, and before you
know it, I'm a senior in college, supposed to be
the last year of my career in swimming, and he
joins our team. He quickly breaks all of the records
in every event that he swims. He then goes on
(39:11):
to qualify for end C doubleas which by the way,
most people Navy League do not even qualify for the
meet at all. And then he went on to become
the first ever man to win a women's NC double
a title, which she has that photo right there flashing
before me that as his championship win there. But in
(39:32):
the experience it was, I mean, it was as crazy
as it sounds. The administration went to great lengths to
silence us. We were told that if we objected to it,
that we were the problem, and if we ever spoke
out about it publicly, we would never be able to
get a job. We would be tainted by this for
the rest of our lives and we would be on
the wrong side of history. And finally they told us
if we continue to object, please seek psychological services, and
(39:56):
they gave us the number for a therapist.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
So I mean.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Us women who object to undressing next to a man
six eighteen times per week we had to do this
six ft four tall man, and again they told us
it again. If we objected, we were the problem, and
no one stood up for us. So I said to
myself and Riley and much of other girls, if we
can't expect them to stand up for us, we had
to do it for ourselves. And that's why a bunch
(40:22):
of us are now speaking out about this issue and
raising awareness to not just on fairness in sports, but
also the silencing of all of it. Again, we were
told if we had opinions on this, we should not
share them publicly, and if we ever did, our life
would be over.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Okay, setting aside just the hebgbi's it gives me to
realize that all those young women had to change in
front of a dude that many times a week. But
just set that aside for a moment. That's really grows
you say. We were told I'm not asking you to
name names. But who's coming to you and saying these
things to you? Is it coaches? Is it professors talking
(41:00):
about just some dirty commy activist on the quad.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Who's coming to you and saying shut your mouth or
or your life will be ruined?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Well, I mean I can paint the picture for you
very clearly. There was this this day. We got this
email and said mandatory team meetings. This time, pool stands.
Every member of the women's team, you must be there.
And our coaches were at this meeting, but they were
pushed aside into the corner, and they brought in multiple
people from the athletic department, so liaisons to the ad,
(41:28):
the athletic director. They brought in activists from the LGBTQ Center.
They brought in a representative from psychological services. They brought
in a bunch of other random administrators that probably shouldn't
have jobs anyway and are making way too much money
to do absolutely nothing at all. All of those people
were just it was a whole panel. I honestly, I
didn't even realize there was that many administrators that were
(41:51):
available to be sent to this meeting at the time.
But of course, you know, you know, college campuses, the
bureaucracy of it. They find people, and they brought us
a whole panel to try to scare us. And actually
after that they would keep sending representatives in the athletic
department to watch over our meets. They accompanied us on
training trips to say we're here to help. They're not
here to help. They're here to say, we're watching you, guys,
(42:12):
and we want to make sure our message is loud
and clear. And you've heard every single word we've said
this entire season. Shut your mouth.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Okay, So I'm curious you had your senior years swimming
ruin because some dudes helicoptering across the pool beside you,
and eventually you've had enough for you decided to speak out.
Why what prompted that? What was the response like when
you did it?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
At the beginning during the season, I was very vocal
about my opinions of it being unfair, but again, it
was not met with encouragement. Most people told me that
I should be quiet, that it was a privilege to
even swim d one in college, which of course it was.
It was a privilege, but that should not come with
being shut down. That should not come with being told
you're a horrible person because you're speaking truth, noneth the
(43:00):
last I mean I again. I struggled with this for
a long time, but eventually my turning point is this
this high school of volleyball player named Peyton McNabb. Not
sure if you're familiar with the story, but Peyton was
a high school volleyball player in North Carolina. She was
knocked unconscious by a volleyball hit by a trans athlete
on the opposing team. So a boy playing on a
(43:22):
girl's a volleyball team knocked her unconscious completely. She's partially
paralyzed in her face, and she went on to not
be able to play sports at all in college. She's
now in college. She just finished her this year, and
she was not able to play sports in college whatsoever
because of these sustaining injuries. And it was that moment
when I heard that story. And that was a few
months after I had experienced what I did on the
(43:43):
University of PENNSYLVANIASIME team. I graduated. At this point Peyton's story,
I you know, showed up and I was working that
corporate job that they told me I was going to
lose if I ever spoke out. I was doing what
they wanted me to do. I stayed quiet. I had
a job, I, you know, was who they wanted me
to be. I read story and it brought me to tears.
I mean legitimately. I had this moment where I realized, Okay,
(44:05):
what I went through is silencing the locker room. It
was uncomfortable, it was awful. All of those things are true,
but we are now allowing girls and young girls to
be permanently injured by this. That's not acceptable. And it
was that moment where I said, if I continue to
stay quiet on this issue, I felt personal responsibility for
(44:25):
that happening to Peyton because I had an opportunity to
share what the University of Pennsylvania did to us. Again,
at this point in time, nobody knew the full truth
of the great links they went to silence us. Nobody
knew the full details of how often Thomas was changing
the locker room with us, and I knew that I
was part of the problem if I continued to stay quiet.
So it was really at that point I just said,
I don't care what I might lose, I don't care
(44:46):
who might call me names if I stand by this,
I stand by abuse to young girls. And again we
were college students, We were aware of what was happening.
But Peyton is a high school student. She's a minor,
and you can't stand up for her. I can't call
myself a good person.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, well, I'm glad you did see. Now there's two
of you on that team with Paul. Good for you,
PAULA Scammon rooting for you big time. Keep going. All right,
let's talk about streakers. Someone streaked a baseball field. Don't streak,
all right, but it is funny when you do.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
We'll play it in a second. All right, it is
time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And you know why they don't show streakers on television
during games. They don't show streakers on television during games because, well,
the thinking behind it is if we broadcast this, this
person's doing it for attention. If we broadcast it, then
more people are going to do it. And they're not
(46:00):
wrong about that. But the problem with that is it's
the Internet age, and there's always somebody videoing it and
it always gets out. And I don't want you to
ever streak a game or anything like that, but it
is always funny. The dodging of security is always funny.
When security finally spears him or chases him. Always funny.
(46:23):
I'm sorry, this is funny. I love how there are
(46:49):
multiple angles. Just everybody put the phone.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
That's a nice backflip. I'll see them all
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