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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tucker Carlson joins us tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
That'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We'll talk about illegals voting in our elections with Benjamin Winegardens,
some rough jobs news, all that and more coming up.
And I'm right, there are huge things going on in
the country right now. We have Tucker Carlson. He's going
(00:27):
to join us in a few minutes to discuss those things.
We have a huge show for you on I'm right.
But when you do a television show, you generally want
to lead with the big deal whatever the biggest deal
is that you want that to be your a block, right,
It's considered a.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Block the start of the show. What is the biggest
deal me?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
As of yesterday, that's the sixth year anniversary of me
stopping the normal life I was living memory. I've lived
just a very normal life. My whole life construction and
the RV sales. I used to wash cars, and I
started doing medium six years ago yesterday. Started out on
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a local radio station, KPRC, wonderful station here in Houston,
a seven o'clock at night show, just nighttime show for
one hour, and six years later, I'm right here on
the first nationally syndicated radio show talking to Tucker in
a couple of minutes. I don't I didn't even want
to tell you this to say anything inspirational. I just
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wanted to brag. I think it's really cool what's happened. No, seriously,
what a blessing it's all been. And speaking of Tucker Carlson,
So he's got this huge tour he's doing. He's doing
a live speaking tour in various cities, and all kinds
of famous people on there.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Don Junior and all kinds of people are on there.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
When he comes to my city in the Houston area,
it's not Houston proper. When he comes to the Houston area.
I am going to be joining him on September eighteenth.
It's just him me on stage a couple hours riffing
on politics. Go get some tickets. But you know, Tucker
and I have done this kind of thing before. We
don't need a military that's woman friendly. We don't need
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a military that's gay friendly. With all due respect to
the Air Force, we need a military that's flat out hostile.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We need a.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Military full of type A men who want to sit
on a throne of Chinese skulls.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And soon you're Chelsea Handler.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Soon It's Valentine's Day, and your womb resembles a dried
up tumbleweed blowing down an old western town, and your
Valentine's Day date for the tenth year in a row
is a ten year old copy of Magic Mike and
a half full bottle of Xenax, and you're trying to
pretend like you're happy. Everybody watching you right now has
worked for or worked with somebody who just has ambition
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just dripping off of their pores.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And that's Kamala Harris. Those types of.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
People will do anything to get ahead. They treat their
bosses like crap, they treat their employees like crap. That's
why she knifed Joe Biden in the debate with all
that race nonsense.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
There was no need to do that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's the same reason she cat like a dead hyena
every time she's asked an uncomfortable question. It's the same
reason she started out her political career as Willie Brown's
broughtworst bund. Kamala Harris will do anything to get ahead.
So he either doesn't vote in primaries that's mostly the case,
He's just gonna sit at home, or even worse, he
goes to vote for Senator Dork who he sees on
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Fox News every time. Well, Lindsey Graham was on Fox tonight.
I guess he's on my side. You should have nothing
but disdain for virtually every single senator you see on
Fox News. Normal people are getting sick and tired of
no action, and they're running these people out.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's happening.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's happening slowly, maybe too slowly, too slowly when you
consider the fact that the federal government is gleefully destroying
this country. I haven't seen these people this happy since
Pete Buddha Jeedge and his husband took their baby home.
Joining me Now the man himself, Tucker Carlson, he's coming
to the Great State of Texas, Houston, Aria or Rosenberg, Texas.
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I get to join him on stage, and that is
always a good time.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Tucker.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Obviously you have Dan and Meghan, and these people are
of course friends of mine, But clearly the headliner is
going to be me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
No dat, We're just talking off camera, and I meant
this sincerely. There are a lot of really smart people
I like to listen to, but a live venue is
totally different, and it takes a certain kind of personality
you can tell who loves dealing with actual people and
who'd rather be hidden away at a radio studio, and
you were in the former category. I was talking to
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the person who's managing the towards like Jesse Kelly, you
watch will be great at this because you like actual people.
So I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I mean, so much of our politics really comes
down to that, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It, Tucker.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I mean, a genuine love of people. Either you have
it or you don't. Either you care that Americans can't
afford groceries or you don't. And it's not a socioeconomic thing.
But sadly there aren't any Democrats that think like that anymore.
But either you feel genuine sadness that people are moving
back in with their parents or you don't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well, that's exactly right. I mean, the world is divided
between people who care about the people and those who
care about people. In other words, it's easy to love
an abstraction. I love beauty, I love truth, I love love,
But it's much harder to love like, you know, a
crying five year old was not on his face, you know,
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or a wife who's mad at you for reasons you
don't really understand, like That's what it means to love
in real life, is to love people in all their
complexity and imperfection, even unfashionable people like the white working
class who are dying at a younger age, like no
one in Washington even thinks about them. They're just like
some repulsive afterthought. As we move on to this brand
new America that doesn't speak English. But the only politicians
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I like are the ones who like people, and they're
just aren't that many, Oh that there.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
There aren't that many.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, So I do want to points something out. Tucker
has this great series coming out. I don't want to
give too much away, but here's here's a trailer for
the Art of the Surge.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Here it is. Biden's just taken the stage of the debate.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
The standard does not Are you able to stand up
for ninety minutes? I can't even understand him right now.
Trump is like riding a great racehorse, right.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You put the blinders on.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You guide him into the corners, and you let him run.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Look at how many people are showing up for a rally.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Everyone.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
We need to make sure you're ready.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
The president, the president.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Tucker, Okay, I know this is going to be at
Tucker Carlson dot com. I know that, you know, people
can't exactly consume it here. But what is this all about?
I have no doubt the assassination attempt of Donald Trump
and Butler is going to be part of it.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Well, yeah, it's a We embedded a producer and a
camera crew with the Trump campaign at the beginning of
the summer, and they've been with him on the plane
at you know, all the events backstage, and they happen
to be there, you know, right near Trump, right just
feet away from Trump when he was shot. And so
that's the first installment of this series, which will extend
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through the fall. But you know, for people who haven't
covered I mean, you you've run for office. I've covered
a lot of people running for office, But until you've
seen what it's like, you know, outside of the rope line,
it's really instructive to see what it actually looks like
to run a campaign, and you understand the player is
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much better in this case, Donald Trump, who I know,
You know him, and anyone who knows Trump can tell
you he's exactly the same in private as he is
in public, except funnier and probably more vulgar. But he's
just he's not a different person. He's like a person
you like even more so, I think it's cool. It's
a window into that.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Speaking of a window into things, I still think about
this assassination attempt, that, the.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Timing of it, so many things.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And I'm old enough to remember you going on Adam
Carolla's show and saying this.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We're speeding toward assassination obviously, and no one will say that.
But I don't know how you can't reach that conclusion,
you know what I mean, Like they have decided permanent Washington.
Both parties have decided that there's something about Trump that's
so threatening to them they just can't have him.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Tucker.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
That was pre assassination attempt, because I'm sure you remember
you saw this horrific thing coming, so they tried to
imprison him. Supreme Court rules on immunity miraculously. Right after
that immunity ruling, and right before he gets the official
nomination for president, he's two inches away from having his
brains blown all over a stage on live television in Pennsylvania. Tucker,
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could you please explain to people how you could see
something so horrific coming, because you did well.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I mean I'm terrible at predicting the future. I don't
think I ever called a political race correctly. That was
not even a prediction. It was just looking at the
trend lines. And the attacks on Trump increased in desperation
and severity, intensity ruthlessness pretty consistently over the past eight years,
and it got to the point where they're trying to
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take his life away by putting him in prison until
he dies, which they're still trying to do on utterly
fake charges, and that wasn't working. He was becoming more popular,
you know, the more they persecuted him in the courts,
and so there was only one option left, and that
was to murder him. And the Biden administration allowed him
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to get shot. That's a statement of fact. They allowed this.
The Secret Service is part of the executive branch of
Government's controlled by the Biden administration, the Harris Biden administration,
and they've withheld Secret Service from Bobby Kennedy up until
very recently when Trump demanded it, because they were fine
if he got murdered. They withheld Secret Service from Donald Trump,
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and they gave it over to that fake, horrible, fake
doctor lady who's married to Joe Biden, who was having
a rally the same day with more Secret Service protection
than Donald Trump. And they ignored, of course, this building
one hundred and forty yards away and where you could
sort of easily hit the man on stage, they ignored.
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I mean, I've been to a million events with Secret
Service my entire life, and I've never heard of anything
like that. So they let this happen. They could say
it's unintentional. It doesn't matter what the intent was. They
let They allowed it to happen, and they've never been
held to account for it. Republicans in the Congress seemed
to have forgotten it happened. The country seems to be
forgetting it. It happened because of the media blackout on it.
It's really a pivot point in American history. You can't
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allow your political opponent to get murdered because you don't
like him. But they did.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Tucker, what comes after this? Because you mentioned a pivot point,
and this is where I mean. People can call it
a blackpill, whatever they want to call it, But I'm
trying to explain to people the imprisoning of Republicans, the
attempted assassination of Republicans. You can convince yourself all day long.
This is going to stop once Trump is done, whether
that's four more years in office or loses an election.
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But we obviously don't work that way politically. Countries don't
work that way. We've entered a new phase, and this
is kind of how it is now.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It seems to be. I mean, I should keep a
list of all the Republicans and consider those I've interviewed
who are on the way to prison under Joe Biden,
you know, but it's not a small list, and a
bunch of them I know. I personally know more than
five people who've been to prison in the last few
years for political crimes. So that was unimaginable in my youth.
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It was unimaginable ten years ago. It's happening. I don't
know that it's gonna slow down anytime soon. I'm not
sure exactly how we should respond to it, other than
to name it, to say out loud, what's happening, to
be honest about it and not hide it. I think
it's reawakened all of us to the importance of our
families and of God and the people that we love.
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Like it's pushed a lot of us back to first principles.
I think it's a good thing, you know. I mean,
if you're fat and happy and rich for too long,
you can kind of forget what matters, and what matters
is God and your family and your friends, first period.
And so I do think there's an upside to the chaos.
No one ever says it. It's not all bad. Nothing
is all bad. People get terminal care, cancer diagnoses, and
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they become, you know, deeper, happier people in some way.
I've seen that happen. So there's always an upside to tragedy,
and I think we should meditate on that a little.
There was an upside to COVID. I'm sure the same
thing happened to. You get stuck at home, you can't
do anything, and all of a sudden you rediscover, oh,
I really love spending all day with my wife and kids,
you know what I mean. So like, there's good, there's
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a good side to this.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Speaking of families, trying to wrap this thing up here, family,
the family unit, God, husband, wife, It seems like so
much of our culture has just kind of accepted things
that are so far from that, and even so much
of the rights, so much of the Republican Party has
simply baked things into the cake, especially when it comes
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to things like human sexuality. Honestly, the strongest stance you
can get from ninety nine percent of Republicans in office
or running for offices, we don't want.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Men and women's sports.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
As if that's somehow, as if that's somehow pushing back
on the culture. How about just the fact that dudes
can't become women period? Why do we give so much ground?
We just constantly give ground, and then we'll fight over
a little slice of what they've taken.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, you know, I think that's changing. I mean again,
and I don't. I'm very pessimistic in Scandinavian and morose
and dark, and when I used to drink I would
just stare sadly out the window, you know what I mean,
insensible on vodka as it rained. So like, I'm not
an optimistic, cheerful person really by my nature. But I
have to say I interviewed someone this morning this morning
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who's a well known person who looked right into the
camera and end of totally normal, kind of not political
person who said, well, God's in charge of the universe,
the husband is in charge of the home. Those are
the leaders, and then like government's kind of an afterthought.
It's like five years ago, you couldn't find an American
except maybe in the Amish community who would say God's
in charge of the universe, the husband's the head of
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his home. You weren't allowed to say that. And things
have gotten so crazy that I think it's reminded people
that this is all fake. And if they're going to
tell me a man can become a woman, then I
can be equally bold and say something that's countercultural but true,
which is that the nuclear family is the only way
to happiness and stability. That's just a fact, and like
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not be embarrassed about it. So I see people much
more honest than they've ever been, much bolder in expressing
what they believe. And I again, I think there's a
huge upside to the obvious sadness and chaos all around us.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And it's normal people who are getting bolder and border
border which is nice, not just people like you may
do what we do. That's what That's what I find inspiring. Anyway,
I need to let the man go. We have a
live tour September eighteenth in Houston. I will be on
stage with him. In fact, he has amazing guests all
over the country. Go to Tuckercarlson dot com get tickets,
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art to the surge at Tucker carls In dot com. Tucker,
I'll see you in like a month, my friend.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And honestly, this is sincere, I don't know for stilling camera.
Thank you for doing it. This is good to be
super fun and I'm really excited. And I'm a guest
in your state. I look forward to.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's gonna be a blast, my brother, We'll get some barbecue.
I can't wait. Let's see you.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Amen, Thank you, Jesse, see your brother.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Good dude. That is gonna be. That's gonna be a fun.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Tour Tucker Carlson dot com. And I do have to
warn you there it's gonna sell really fast.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
None I can do about that. It's a limited venue epicenter,
I think is what it's called.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
But it's limited. So go get your tickets. Also, go
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cell phone service.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
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Speaker 1 (16:39):
There are hard ways to put your money where your
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That doesn't do E, S, G or DEI. It's almost impossible.
Your cell phone service is easy, though, I mean, you
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Speaker 2 (17:19):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Let's focus on something for a moment, because I know
the DNC convention's going on, and I'll play a little
clip of something crazy they said in a moment. But
let's remember, let's remember the big story happening, not just
in America right now, the overarching story on the planet,
the biggest story on planet Earth right now. The most
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dangerous thing happening is Western governments turning their guns against
their own city. For the entirety of Western civilization, Western
governments have had their guns pointed outward, right you know,
World War II comes along and we mobilize the forces
to go fight evil abroad, we won't aim our guns outward.
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The war on terror, whether or not you agree or
disagree with how that war was prosecuted. We have these
evil Islamic terrorists trying to murder us. Let's go find them,
they'll kill them. Guns pointed outward. Well, things have gotten
so corrupt in Western civilization. Now we'll just make it
about America. Here, things have gotten so corrupt, so rauded. Here,
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the government has figured out the biggest threat to their
power is the patriotic American citizen. So those guns that
were all pointed outward are slowly but surely pointing their
way inward as governments around the planet have made the
very clear decision their citizens are the enemy. And there's
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nothing nothing in the world going on right now that's
more dangerous than that to be under attack, To be
considered an enemy, an enemy of the state by your
own government, historically, is the worst existence you can possibly have. Russia, China,
Iran nuclear war, what's happening in the Middle East. I'm
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not dismissive about any of those things.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I know they matter.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But if the United States government has declared me you
to be enemies of the state, what happens in Russia
doesn't matter. And these people, they're not backing off. They
are pretending to be the good guys. They're ramping things up.
To hear this speaker at the convention talking about what
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Trump will do.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Donald Trump would be able to weaponize the Department of
Justice to go after his political opponents. He could even
turn the FBI into his own personal police force.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
That is not how it works in America. That's how
it works in dictatorships.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
A few moments later.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
Donald Trump fell asleep at his own trial, and when
he woke up, he made his own kind of history,
the first person to run for president with thirty four
felony convictions.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
As vice president.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
As Vice president, Pamla sat.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
In the situation room.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Proud chance, lock him up. These things are already happening here.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I'll just leave you with this little story. There's a
woman eighty nine years old. She once had to survive
in a communist camp, communist prison camp in Eastern Europe.
And this woman, at eighty nine is now going to
die most likely in prison, but not in Eastern Europe,
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not in China, not in Russia, not in Iran. You see,
Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, their DOJ just arrested this woman
for being a pro life activist, and they're going to
send her to federal prison. Having survived a communist prison
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camp in the Eastern Europe, this eighty nine year old
woman is still going to die as a political prisoner
in prison in the United States of America. This is
not something that might happen in the future. We have
to stop talking like that.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
They might do.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I can't believe what they could do. This is something
that is happening right now. To your fellow countrymen, to
my fellow countrymen, the most dangerous thing happening on planet
Earth is Western governments turning their guns inward against their
own citizens.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And it's happening here so fast. All right, we have more.
We haven't even gotten into Tim Wall's stuff yet. Today.
Before we get to Tim Wall's stuff, let's get to
how do you sleep at night? Right now?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It can be difficult as you sit and brew on
all the craziness out there. How do you sleep at night? Well,
I can give you a great night's sleep and a
great morning. When I say great morning, I mean it's
the wake up that matters.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
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We'll be back.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
These guys have are even attacking me for my record
of service, and I just want to say I'm proud
to serve my country and I always will be. I'm
gonna say it again as clearly as I can. I
am damn proud of my service to this country, and
I firmly believe you should never denigrate another person service record.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, he shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
He's a lying, worthless coward who ran out on his
men before they deployed and then pretended like he carried
a weapon in war. I'll denigrate your service all day long,
you worthless tard. And not because he was National Guard
or whatever that may be. That's fine service, that's wonderful service.
Being a coward and lying about it is as low
as you can possibly get.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
He's a piece of crap.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Joining me now, my friend Wade Miller, executive director Center
for Renewing America and a combat veteran in actual one
United States Marine.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Wade, these people think, think of a shame.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Guys like us, don't denigrate my service. Screw him and
screw his service or lack thereof.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, it's absolutely infuriating, especially for those of us who
have actually served honorably and we're not lying about our
service and conflating it and making it look like it's
more impressive than.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It needs to be.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
And the LUFT is absolutely kind of glomming onto this
idea that we're somehow denigrating the service of other Americans.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And the fact is is.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
That Waltz lied repeatedly about his rank, he lied repeatedly
about or allowed it to be lied, and then didn't
correct people about where he deployed, what types of environments
he deployed, into and then lied about his actual service
and ferred that he carried rifles into combat. And it
goes on and on, and this isn't just a one off.
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He repeatedly made these assertions over the last twenty years.
In fact, I think his Congressional office point even lists
his rank as a command sergeant major, which he was
flocked as a command sergeant major.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
He was never formally promoted. And by the way, part
of the condition.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Of all of that occurring was that he was committed
to going on the rumored upcoming combat deployment, which that
he then skipped his whole entire chain of command and
snuck through his retirement because he knew that if he
had gone to his chain of command, they would have
denied it because he had already committed to the upcoming deployment.
So everything about his service, especially in his last several years,
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is dishonorable. The way he retired it is dishonorable, and
then the way he has talked about his service and
lied about it has been completely dishonorable.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, they love their military mascots, don't they, wigh I
talk about this all the time. Democrats are very obviously
the anti American party. And that's no defense of useless
coward Republicans. But Democrats hate the country. Everyone watching their
convention can see that America sucks and see what's racist?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Run native Land.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
It's all this other, a big bunch of grievance crap.
But they know they can try to cover up, try
to convince that old Democrat, that union Democrat, that veteran
Democrat that they don't really hate it by trotting out
Tim Walls and pretended like he's some kind of military hero.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
They do this all the time.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, he's basically a dingistunists, which is kind of the
post Mao version of communism. And he's a white guy
with white hair, and he looks like he, you know,
could hang out at the local coffee shop. So they're
glombing on to him as some sort of lie that
he like that Middle America is is something that they
still care about, and traditional values is something that they
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care about. He's about as radical as they come, and
the policy he's pushing his in his state are inherently
anti American. And then you know, he really leans heavily
on his service that he's lied about to prop up
and make it look legitimate and it turns out that
a lot of it is just an absolute lie, and he's.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Just kind of a throne of lies.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Well, speaking of throne of lies, wait, they lie about
things they don't even really need to lie about. Biden
is famous for this, So just tell these gigantic lies
that are so odd and everyone knows their lies. And
of course he'd always follow it up with not a joke.
Whenever he said that, you knew he was telling some
big lie. Tim Walls lied about how his wife got pregnant,
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pretending like they needed IVF to get pregnant.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Who would even do something like that.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Well, I think this is just like inherently part of
the culture of the radical left. It's the ends justify
the means, and that means that if they if they're
telling lies, will sell the public on their agenda, they're
completely at home doing it. And you're seeing this in
woken weaponized government left and right. They're just lying and
lying and lying in order to sell their agenda because
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they don't really care fundamentally about telling the truth. I mean,
we just saw today, you know, the labor data is
being downward projected by eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs
it's the largest that I've ever seen. It may be
the largest downgrade ever. I don't think that that just
accidentally happened. I think that the regime gives you, you know,
gives us all the data to sell their agenda, and
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then they you know, kind of blend in some you know,
basic form of credibility by saying over revising it down.
But that's after the regime media has been propelling this
narrative that the Left is you know, record job growth
and all of these things, and it's an afterthought once.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
They correct it.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
They don't follow up with news stories correcting themselves and
saying we apologize. This actually isn't the record job growth
that you all thought it was. It's actually pretty abysmal,
and inflation is still really terrible, and the consumer prices
are destroying the middle class. The regime media goes right
along with it, and they'll glom onto the next statistic,
and then the process repeats itself over and over and
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over again.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Wade, I saw Michelle Obama got up last night and
boy this little tidbit and said so much without saying
much at all here she was all of.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Our contributions deserve to be accept it and value because
no one has a monopoly on what it means to
be an American, no one.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They love talking like that way.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
America doesn't mean anything. It can mean anything you want.
We're multi multi cultural. This is of course, how someone
trying to completely gut and destroy America would talk.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah, America has to mean something, and being an American
has to mean something. It has to be based on
a common set of principles and values, or else it
means nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
If it's you know, kind of like the.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Less conception of the Constitution that it's living, it can
just literally mean whatever they want. If the government can
insist that that the you know, organic laws of this
country can mean whatever they need at any time, then
we really don't have the rule of law. And you
have to have a certain type of culture to sustain liberty.
And the left just wants to basically say that anyone
who argues that is inherently bigoted, racist, sexist, et cetera,
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et cetera, et cetera, and you can't possibly define it,
you know, defend it, which is why you know they're
completely at home with you know, a Marxists who are
inherently anti American or Islamists, et cetera set being right
at home in their party because at the end of
the day, their commonality is they want to destroy what
it means to be America and they want to gloss
over it with all these nice sounding, woke terms, when
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in reality it's a very inherently aggressive and in some
instances violent agenda that they have for the future of
the country, and against it the opposition to that change.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Wait, thank you so much, my brother simplify, I appreciate it.
Benjamin Winegarden is going to join us next. We're going
to talk to him about illegals voting in elections. This
is a thing that obviously happens on what scale. What
scale can we anticipate when you bring in twenty million
people in the course of four years, that's something we
should be concerned about when presidential elections are decided by
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much more narrower in margins than that.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Talk to Benjamin about that next.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
There's two options that we're looking at, and one is
staying in forming that new party. But we run the
risk of a Kamala Harris, Kamala Harrison and Waltz presidency
because we draw votes from Trump, or we draw somehow
more votes from Trump, or we walk away right now
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and join forces with Donald Trump, and you know, we
walk away from that and we explain to our base
why we're making this decision.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That's quite a candid admission on camera for someone running
for president, isn't it. That was the Cole Shanahan, RFK
Junior's running mate joining me now, Benjamin Winegarden, Editor at Large,
Real Clear Investigations. Okay, Benjamin, that's quite a thing to say.
What does it mean if these two drop out? They're
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of course scheduled to speak in Phoenix. Trump is scheduled
to speak in Phoenix. What does this mean?
Speaker 12 (33:03):
Well, if you assume that this election comes down to
thousands of votes across a handful of states, and by
all measures, that appears to be the trajectory of the thing.
And you're talking about a candidate in RFK Junior who's
garnering multiple percentage points, particularly in the swing states, this
could be a decisive move for the election. I'll caveat that,
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of course, setting aside all the machinations that the regime
is going to engage in to ensure it gets the
margin that it needs. This is a big deal and
this also, by the way, I think illustrates a broader
theme of this race, which is that it's the regime
versus those who have been crushed by the regime. And
RFK Junior, of course, has been smeared and maligned by
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the Democrats, his family has been targeted by the deep state,
and at the end of the day, him throwing his
weight behind Trump really play a decisive role.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Again, when we're talking about such narrow margins, Benjamin, how
much weight is it? Because we haven't talked about him
a lot on the show. Ro Honestly, I haven't talked
about the campaigns, any of them a lot on the show.
But are we talking about someone who's going to bring
five percentage points? I don't understand how big his following is.
Help me understand.
Speaker 12 (34:22):
Yeah, we've seen according to polling, certainly when he is
on the ballot, it moves a pretty substantial percentage, anywhere
from say two to seven percent thereabouts, depending on what
state you're talking about. So again, even going back to
twenty twenty and twenty sixteen was obviously down to thousands
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of votes in a few states. Twenty twenty, same thing,
you know, four or five states, tens of thousands of
votes across those states. To the extent you have voters
who are fed up with the machine and they're willing
to go behind Trump and or not back of course
Kamala Harri and the regime that's meaningful and potentially decisive.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Benjamin, you have.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
A piece up about Dome and how she still has
zero policies out there, but you wrote a piece trying
to understand the positions she has taken and they're horrific.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 12 (35:19):
Well, I think that there are two questions that this
election ought to ultimately hinge on if the merits mean anything,
And one is are you better off now than you
were four years ago? But the other is Kamala Harris
lying now about the positions that she has taken or
that her flax have taken or was she lying then?
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And by then I mean twenty twenty and prior. If
you look down the line at her positions on issues,
long standing positions, whether it comes to the anti energy agenda,
anti fracking, whether it comes to universal health care, whether
it comes to open borders and legalizing an invasion of
this country, and on and on an issue after issue,
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she is as radical as they come, and yet you
see now her flax trying to distance themselves from those positions,
with the caveats that they're going to go for an
unrealized attack on unrealized gains I guess of twenty five
percent and a massive capital gains tax, and of course
stealing Trump policies like no tax on tips. The question
that you have to ask yourself, the question that the
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American people have to ask themselves, is is this the
candidate who ran in twenty twenty, who is as radical
as they come on all issues, the most liberal, so
liberal i'd say, most progressive, radically leftist senator during her
tenure there? Or is this the person now who's trying
to triangulate and shift all of her positions And there's
no good answer. One answer is yes, she takes essentially
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the maximalist communist position that she had in twenty twenty.
The other is she holds no views and you can't
trust her at anything that she says. So I think
that is the question that only Donald Trump really is
going to be able to pose to her, because obviously
the media, so called media, but really the regime mouthpieces,
have formed a protective bubble around her she's not forced
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to speak when the campaign speaks.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
It's through flax.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
Only Donald Trump will be able to put that question
to her, and I don't think she's going to have
a good answer for it before the American people.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Okay, So the contrast I was thinking about this today.
The contrast in the two campaigns is amazing. Trump's campaign
couldn't possibly be more open. Some would argue, I would
probably argue, probably two open. He's sitting down with every
Tom Dick and here he podcaster, ABC News Andemy. It
doesn't matter who it is. Trump will sit down and talk,
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which I really admire. I don't know that I agree
with the campaign strategy, but I admire it. She is
hiding under a desk because you just pointed out the
only time to even hear her positions it's from some
dork day rollout on MSNBC. So who understands the electorate better?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Fair question.
Speaker 12 (37:56):
I think what it reflects on the Trump side is,
first of all, this is who he is. He gave
access to your point, maybe to a fault, to his
worst enemies when he was the president of the United States,
and of course they tried to shift him at every turn.
They got and he may work under the assumption all
press is good press. The media really is the enemy
of the people, So going and jousting with them, maybe
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that ultimately pays off what Kamala understands, what the regime understands,
and what we've seen in terms of how they maneuvered.
And that's a polite way of putting it. Joe Biden
out of the way, is that really doesn't matter who
the front man is for the regime. They ran the
basement campaign in twenty twenty. They're running a new, updated
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version of a basement campaign in twenty twenty four, where
the candidate doesn't have to speak, the candidate doesn't have
to take questions. They assume all Democrat voters are in
the bag, and if they can just propagandize to the
nth degree, they can move enough normy voters or Trump
haters who otherwise really disagree with the Democrat agenda and
get them to go along. So I think both of
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them understand the electorate. The Trump position has to be
the more aggressive position, I think by default, because you
have the entire government, the academy, media all across the board,
all of our cultural institutions are all in line behind
the regime. I don't even say Kamala Harris behind the regime,
So it makes sense for her to play prevent defense.
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Prevent defense fails in sports a lot, but when you're
playing sports, you don't have the refs on your team
and everyone else on your team. So that's the challenge
to Donald Trump is how do you break through a
protective bubble and essentially an information space that is at
total war with you.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You brought up Democrats cheating in the various ways they
do in elections. You've done extensive reporting on illegals, non
citizens voting in our elections. Elaborate on this for those
of us who haven't done that kind of digging.
Speaker 12 (39:55):
Yeah, so there have been tens of thousands of non
citizens cropping up on voter rolls really over the last
two decades, and at least hundreds of instances of those
individuals that we know of that have been caught found
to be voting in past elections. There is no documentary
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proof of citizenship necessary to register as a voter in America,
which is a remarkable thing in and of itself. And
then when you look at the additional state requirements, for example,
for voting in person or absentee. Very few states require
any sort of idea that would require you to prove
that you're a citizen to actually be able to participate
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in elections. Now, combine that with the biggest invasion we've
ever had in the history of the country, and obviously
it raises questions about are we going to have a
legal alien showing up on voter rolls en mass and
are they going to vote in meaningful enough numbers to
swing a very tight election. And then you combine this,
of course with the fact that Democrats progressive groups have
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protected this whole notion of third party voter registration and mobilization,
which of course could be really meaningful in states that
allow ballot harvesting, even before you get to illegal acts.
You put it all together, and potentially you have the
elections in a position to be swung, if not this risk,
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then maybe down the road by potential illegal alien votes.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
While Democrats are trying.
Speaker 12 (41:26):
To allow non citizens to vote increasingly in jurisdictions across
the country. So I went out and basically asked of
the secretaries of state or the election boards in all
the swing states, what are you doing to ensure that
non citizens aren't getting on the rules, and that they're
not going to vote on election day. And I've got
to say the response was pretty dumbfounding. Essentially, they said,
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there's not a lot of evidence in the past it's
illegal to do it, as if illegality is going to
be a bar to someone who's first act in this
country is breaking our law, and or there might be
innocent victims. Of course, the aggressive groups going out there
aggressively trying to register and mobilize everyone they can, and
a lot of people get signed up to votes when
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they're simply getting a driver's license. And you can get
a driver's license as a non citizen in almost two
dozen states, and actually as a non citizen in every state,
but as an illegal alien in almost two dozen states.
You put all this together, there's no coherent, systematic effort
to cross the voter roles with citizenship data, which is
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already incomplete to begin with. When you have millions of
quote unquote undocumented in this country, and it presents a
potential mess or a very very minimum auto erode our
confidence in the integrity of the election system. And so
I reported about this for real core investigations. The House
has put out legislation that passed in the House that
would require documentary proof of citizenship. Democrats are stalling it
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in the Senate. We'll see if this is a fight
in the upcoming budget battles in September. But from a
practical perspective, you're not even really going to be able
to implement this prior to election day twenty twenty four.
So when we look back at how tight this race
is and the chicanery that goes on, you got to
look at non citizen voting as a potential issue here.
And almost everything is passive here. It's all if a
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third party group, a lawyer, a party brings a challenge
against certain votes, but how are you even going to
find the population of votes that may be non citizen
votes in the first place. There's no voter role, aggressive
maintenance so called when it comes to non citizenry across
this country, and that poses I think an existential threat
ultimately to our elections.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah no, I'm sure Republicans will stand strong in Congress
on that issue.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Benjamin, thank you so much. I appreciate it, brother. All right,
we have lighting the mood. Next.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I love when communists embarrassed themselves. You remember Jamie Raskin, right,
I could play million sound bites right now with Jamie
rasing Jamie Raskin being detestable. Most recently, most famously, he
was on camera describing how if Donald Trump wins the election,
they're simply not going to allow him to take office.
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He said that, and he predicted a civil war. Well,
just tell him he's a fella, he can't join, and
then we have civil war. So this is a terrible
human being. And remember most of these people were dumb,
really legitimately dumb. They can't say anything that isn't written
for them. Put up on the teleprompter somewhere. I don't
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even have a teleprompter here in the studio. We just
kind of do this thing, put some notes on a
piece of paper when we sit down and riff. These
people can't get through a five minute speech without a teleprompter.
And the teleprompter went down on Jamie Raskin. He looked
like a deer in the headlights up there.
Speaker 13 (44:52):
Someone should have told Donald Trump that the president's job
under Article two of the Constitution. Ok, someone should have
told it down on Trump.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Ah, they're just dumb. I'll see them all