April 18, 2025 • 47 mins
In this hard-hitting TV special, Jesse Kelly exposes the three greatest threats to America’s future: the skyrocketing national debt, unchecked illegal immigration, and the weaponization of the deep state. With his signature no-nonsense style, Kelly breaks down how the debt burden cripples the economy, how open borders strain communities and security, and how unelected bureaucrats in the deep state undermine the will of the people. This is a wake-up call to confront these existential dangers before it’s too late. Featuring: J. Michael Waller, Dave Brat and Victor Avila.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Let's talk about the greatest threats to America. But before
we do that, let's look back a little bit, because
there are some historical stories that I think about, like
ones that stand out in my mind. Empires don't last forever,
no matter how big and powerful they were.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know about the Assyrians.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You of course have heard about them, maybe you read
about them in the Bible, or if your history teacher
was worth anything, they taught you about this powerful, powerful
civilization that ruled everything with an iron fist in their
area for a while. And then there's this famous story
hundreds of years later Greeks, a Greek army was on
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the run. I won't go into the details. And they're
in the middle of nowhere, that's what they thought, in
the middle of nowhere. And they came as this gigantic city,
walls and everything, only it was empty. It had been
abandoned in as Syrian city. And they just there were
days had to take it in that there was some
ancient society so powerful and now gone.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
The Romans.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
When the Romans during the Third and Final Punic War,
when they conquered Carthage, and they were burning the city
of Carthage, killing everybody and doing all those things. The
Roman general leading that whole thing sat down and wept.
Now he didn't weep for the people of Carthage. He
wept because there was this huge, gigantic, powerful empire, the
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Carthaginian Empire, gigantic, unbelievably powerful, and he was watching the
end of it, and he knew, he knew, he wrote
it down, he knew that would come for Rome one
day too. Societies don't last forever. Countries, empires, they do
not last forever. We who are here now we like
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to think it will. And when we look at our kids.
I have two sons, Lord willing one day they'll have children,
we want to know that it'll be there, that America
will be.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There for them.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But that's not how life works. And we have a
uniquely warped perspective of that here in America. And I
don't say that because we're dumb. I say that because
we've been number one forever. We've been top dog. For
the entirety of my life. There's been no question what
the biggest, most powerful country on Earth is. And when
you are that, when you're America in the year twenty
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twenty five, when you're Rome in the year one hundred.
When you're the Assyrian that when you are top dog
at your given moment in history, you feel like that
the end of your empire will never ever come.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
But it does.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So what will get us in the end, Well, first
let's talk about immigration.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
There's really three things that are going to get us
in the end. Immigration.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No country of any size can stand up to the
mass importation of foreigners no country. Countries have tried throughout history,
and they have failed every single time.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It simply doesn't work. You have a country.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The only point in being a country is because you
have a cohesive society and agreed upon culture. So you
can't massively import other cultures and remain a country. You
will eventually break up as a country. Internally, you already
see this here in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You will break up.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
There'll be a faction here in a tribe there, and
that you can't remain cohesive with eight million cultures. Now
that brings us to what democrats have done to us
with the help of Republicans like James Langford of Oklahoma.
You see democrats because their goal is not only power,
but the eventual breakup of America. America sucks. After all,
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it's evil. Their goal is to bring in as many
people as possible. And I need to make sure I
stress this because people on the right have such a
hard time accepting that we're dealing with evil. They have
a hard time accepting what I just said. Democrats didn't
open up the border because they have some misguided compassion
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for immigrants, right that that is, if you're on the
right and a good person, that's the excuse you make
for Democrats. If you're trying to excuse the evil crap
they just got done doing for four years, well, I
mean they just open up misguided. I actually saw someone
today they're misguided border policies. It's not misguided at all.
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You're misguided. They're very guided. They have a purpose in mind.
Their goal is to massively import foreigners so they can
remain in power. Foreigners will vote Democrat all the time,
and that's one benefit. The other benefit is the crime
foreigners will bring. When you massively import twenty million people
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in years, you're gonna have so many rapists and murderers there.
And so they didn't just open up the border. It's
not like they just opened up the door to the
shop and then kind of walked away, all right, the
shop's open, I'm gonna I'm gonna go out back and
have a sing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
They opened up the door to the shop and then
they put up a sign said everyone get in here,
and looked the place. And then they actually took it
a step further. They went out into the town and
grabbed as many people as they could and brought them
to the shop. Democrats flew people into this country as
fast as they could with your money. As fast as
they could with your money they created.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Democrats are so evil they.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Created an app so foreigners could schedule their invasion of
your country. That's how evil the modern Democrat party is.
What are the results. Well, Rachel Morin was a mother
of five. She went out for a jog one day
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in Maryland. A barbarian attacked her, did not kill her
right away, dragged her into the woods. Every woman's nightmare, right,
Everyone I've ever talked to has this nightmare in the
back of their head.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, Rachel Morin lived it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Dragged this young mother into the woods, abused her in
ways that I will not say here on the show,
and then killed her. She did not die quickly, she
did not die well, and Democrats brought those people into
the country on purpose.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
This was Rachel Moore's mother.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Why are we not protecting the American citizens? It's just
common sense. Why are we not protecting our children? And
to have a senator from Maryland who didn't even acknowledge
or barely acknowledged my daughter and the brutal death that
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she endured, leaving her five children without a mother and
now a grand baby without a grandmother, so that he
can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador
to bring back someone that's not even an American citizen.
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Why does that person have more right than I do,
or my daughter or my grandchildren. I don't understand this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
She, of course, is referencing Senator Chris van Holland of Maryland,
who spent your taxpayer money instead of fighting for this country,
actually got on a plane and videoed it. He was
proud of this, got on a plane and flew down
to El Salvador attempting to grab and return to America
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a non citizen gang member.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, I'm asking President Bukayley to Okay, I'm asking President Bukeley,
under his authority as President of Al Salvador to do
the right thing and allow to Strawbrego Garcia to walk out
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of a prison, a man who's charged with no crime,
convicted of no crime, and who was illegally abducted from
the United States.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm struggling to find the exact words I want to
use for where this puts US as a country. Look,
I'm going to talk about the debt really quickly, and
I'm going to talk about the bureocracy. But this is
not just some random sociology major.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
We now have our.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Highest up elected officials. They are committed to bringing in
as many foreign barbarians as they can, and if we
happen to get one out, they fly abroad to bring
them back. I don't know where we're going from here.
I don't know how we fix it. I really don't.
(09:15):
And look, i'ven't even gotten to the debt. Let's just
let's talk about the debt. This is the one. Maybe
this is the one that exasperates me the most because
this is not a partisan issue. No, there's actually no
arguing what I'm about to say. You can argue time frames,
but there's no arguing what I'm about to say. The
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debt situation in the United States of America will cause
some form of dire fiscal collapse, not just for America,
but frankly for the entire globe, because when we collapsed,
everyone around the globe will And what I just said
is one hundred percent true. It will happen. And it's
just simple math. You can't you can't pile up endless
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amounts of debt. That's not how it works. It's never
it's never worked that way. This was Jerome Powe.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
US federal debt is on an unsustainable path. It's not
at an unsustainable level, and no one really knows how
much further we can go. Other countries over time have
gone much farther. But we're now, you know, we're running
very large deficits at full employment, and this is a
situation that we very much need to address. Sooner or later,
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we'll have to and and sooner is better than later.
In terms of if I can say from my time
working on these issues, it's not the Fed's issue, but
the If you look at a pie chart of federal spending,
the biggest parts in the parts that are growing are Medicare, Medicaid,
Social Security and now interest payments and so that's really
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where the work has to be. It has to be done,
and those are issues that can only be touched on
a bipartisan basis.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
We can't sustain this. And everyone knows it, not just you,
I know you already know it. Everyone in Washington, DC
knows it, all of them. I have asked every senator
friend I have, every member of the House I know.
I've asked them point blank. You've seen me ask them
on this show. Does nobody care that this is gonna end?
And virtually every one of them has said, Oh, they
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all know it's gonna end. It's gonna end bad. They're
all just kind of hoping it ends after they're gone.
That's how crazy this situation is.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You can't do this.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And the American people, by the way, they have no
stomach for cuts either. These politicians. The reasons they don't cut.
The American people don't ask for cuts. In fact, the
American people demand you don't if you even threaten to
cut something, the people running out of office, you better
not cut my benefits. Okay, well, we're all gonna get
cut here at some point in time, but keep doing
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the same thing.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And that brings me to.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I don't know if it's the movie the evil portion
of this, because the immigration parts very very evil. But
the communist infiltration and weaponization of the United States government
in ways recently that we have.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Never ever, ever seen before.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I have never in my forty three years on this earth,
and in fact I know a bit about America's history,
America's presidents.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I have looked.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I've never in the history of this country seen an
American president speak this way to the American pupil.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Over two hundred million Americans have gotten at least one shot.
You've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin, and
your refusal has cost all of us.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Our patients is wearing thin. There's in patience with us,
mister President.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
For four years, we saw abuses by the government that
I never thought I would see in this country in
my life. Federal Bureau of Investigation going through school board
meeting parking lots while mothers were inside angry about the
demonic filth their children were learning in school. The Federal
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Bureau of Investigation was deployed against those mothers to jot
down their license plates, open up files on them, and
place them on a potential domestic terrorist list that happened
in this country. Donald Trump had his home raided by
the FBI in response to a Supreme Court ruling that
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made the communists angry. America's Department of Justice dug up
an old obscure law called the Face Act and sent
the FBI after pro life activists across the country.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
We are in a very very dangerous place. Trump or
no Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Pam BONDI keeps laying out all these threats.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
We will find out who you are, and we will
come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrorist. You better look
out because we're coming after you. And if you've committed fraud,
we're coming after you. You better watch out because we're
coming after you. Let me be very clear, if you
don't comply with federal law, you're going to be next.
Let this be a warning. You can run, but you
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cannot hide. Justice is coming.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I hope so, Pam, because if it doesn't, and these
people when they get back in power, oh boy, all
that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
We'll talk to J.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Michael Waller about the FBI next.
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Speaker 8 (16:05):
I promised you the following there will be accountability within
the FBI.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Good.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I'm looking forward to that joining me now. J. Michael Waller,
former CIA operative counter intelligence expert, is also an author. Okay,
J Michael, Before we get to the accountability portion of this,
why don't you and your much more expert ways than
I talk about how bad it got at the FBI.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Before Cash got there.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
It got really bad. So our big focus was on
the wokeness and the politicization and the abuses that had
occurred and you know, rotted the FBI at the core
over the years. But there's a lot more. Our counterintelligence
is terrible defending our country from foreign spies. The counter
intelligence part of the FBI is one of the most
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corrupt of the whole bureau. They were the ones who
set up Operation Crossfire Hurricane. One of their top guys
that was convicted working for Albanian intelligence and he's probably
a Russian spy. So it's really really rotten inside.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, well I need you to expand a lot more
than that on what you just said right there.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
What how.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
Yeah, Well, first, the FBI has has its own real
discipline problem inside. It's got a crooked mentality at the top,
and two of the most important pillars within protecting our
country from corrupt officials, it's politicized, it's abusive, and then
protecting our country from foreign spies, Chinese spies, Russian spies,
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Jehada spies, you name it. It's doing a terrible job.
And some of the top people like Charles McGonagall He
was head of counterintelligence at the New York Field Office.
That's the biggest field office of the FBI, over twelve
hundred people, most powerful one apart from maybe the Washington
Field Office. He's in prison right now. He was part
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of Operation Cross Hurricane that was spying on the Trump
campaign and setting up the whole Russian collusion narrative. So
he was busted only because he was taking money from Albanians.
But really, if you look at his record, I would
bet my salary that he was a Russian spy, and
the FBI covered that up. They even didn't do what
they call a damage assessment. When you have a crooked
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FBI agent or somebody who might have been a spy,
you do a damage assessment to see what kind of
damage this bad agent caused, not just the FBI itself
but the whole country. They had one person doing the
damage assessment and it was lame. And this is something
that's been going on for decades. I was involved in
the Robert Hanson case. This was twenty five years ago.
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Top counter intelligence officer there in the FBI ended up
being a Russian spy and was convicted of it. Died
in prison a year or so ago. They didn't do it.
They cut off the damage assessment team of him early
because they didn't want to know the DAMA. So the
culture of the FBI has been rotten for a whole
generation or more.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Okay, so help me understand. Is this just the FBI
protecting the FBI?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Is that basically what this comes down to.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
They don't want bad press, They don't want they don't
want to purge this bad apple or that bad apple
because then you risk prying eyes from Congress and the
American people.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Is it deeper than that?
Speaker 9 (19:24):
It's deeper than that. The FBI is not just a
fraternity where everyone's looking out for one another. And there
might be reasons to defend the bureau here there certainly.
But the biggest crime you can commit in the FBI
is not to commit treason against the United States. It's
not to politicize the FBI for partisan purposes. The worst
crime you can commit in the FBI is to embarrass
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the FBI.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
When did this and I realize this is many, many
years in the making. I've had plenty of friends tell
me that it was Barack Obama, surprise, surprise, who really
put this into overdrive by placing his people throughout the bureau.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Is that true?
Speaker 9 (20:04):
Yeah, he did it. He politicized it, He had the
wokeness imposed on it from above and then recruiting younger
recruits from below and then artificially promoting him through DEI.
That's what the little Dei scam was in the government. It
was to artificially promote people who simply weren't promotable, let
alone hireable, and putting them in charge as lawyers, as managers,
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as people who hire people who do the promotions. Even
field office special agents in charge of the field offices,
the local FBI offices around the country. So you might
remember not long ago, there was that act of Jahada's
terrorism in New Orleans and you had the top FBI
person on duty at the time, the assistant Special Agent
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in charge, come out and contradict the mayor of No
Orlands saying that was not an act of terrorism when
it was. This is common throughout the whole bureau.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay, you have the top risks, the top.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Counter intelligence officer hunting for it spies in the Washington,
d C. Field Office. Her name is Sarah Lindon. She
took the knee for Black Lives Matter, and she got
a promotion and an illegal gratuity.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Okay, why she's still there?
Speaker 9 (21:18):
We don't know that she's not there. We don't know
all of the things that are having but she's not alone.
That's the problem. There hasn't been no announcement that she's
not there, so we have to presume she still is.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, how do we take the apart the FBI, because
that's what I want.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Yeah, Well, cash Pttel promised that he would take really
strong actions. He's taking some actions. He's taking some good actions,
but we need to hold him to his promise. We
can't beat him up over it because just him and
Dan Bongino, it's a two man hostel takeover of a
thirty seven thousand person organization. But we do need to
keep demanding progress. And if we don't see that progress,
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as Dan Bongino himself has said, don't expect me to
say trust me. Bongino said on X he said, trust
us by our actions. But our actions are going to
take a while. So I'm cutting them a bit of slack.
But and I urge everybody else to, but not too
much slack, because the bureau itself is going to the
way the bureau has maintained control of every director since
Jaeger Hoover is to surround him and they run the
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director instead of the director running the bureau. That's the
big danger we're up against right now.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, So Cash, I don't know Dan I do, and
I do trust him. Does he have the power to
make these reforms or as you just said, is the
FBI itself much more powerful than the director deputy director
and they're simply going to stop all these reforms.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Well, I trust them too. The problem is it's just
two guys. They have a huge staff. They've got a
gigantic management that George W. Bush and Barack Obama put together.
It's a giant, top heavy management of real brown nosers,
and a lot of people have very bad character. Sixty
odd senior executive positions at the top of the bureau.
That thing should have gone day one, but it didn't.
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Only a few people were removed. So as long as
they're there, you're going to have the bureaucracy just surround
Dan Bongino and Cash Betel and try to be helpful
to them and indispensable to them so that they won't
be able to function without these bad elements around them.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
What role does Congress have or can Congress even step
in here? Look, we all want Congress to well, I
shouldn't say we all. I want Congress to defund them,
to do things with fangs. Doesn't seem like they're ever
willing to do that, So that kind of makes us stuck, right, it.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
Does make us stuck, Jesse. There has never been a
serious congressional oversight investigation of the FBI in half a century.
Oh half a century has gone by, and that was
the only one in the FBI's entire history. So more
than one hundred years, there's only been one year is
congressional investigation? Good?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Agree? J Michael, Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
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Speaker 2 (24:38):
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Speaker 10 (25:31):
The cost of our debt has gotten so high that
just the interest payments on the debt exceed the entire
military budget. And it was just growing out of control.
So the country is going bankrupt. It's just you know,
country is not different from a person. If a country overspends,
it doesn't spend wisely, just like a person, a country
will go bankrupt. So the reason I'm here is because
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I'm I'm very worried about America going bankrupt due to
the corruption of waste, and if we're going to do
something about it, America is going to sink. And we're
all on that ship.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well we all are.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
We're all on that ship, and yet nobody's going to
do anything about it. I'm one hundred percent convinced I
am the most black filled person in the world when
it comes to the debt at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Maybe Dave will talk me out the ledge.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Maybe he won't joining me now the senior vice president
of Business Engagement at Liberty University, the Great Dave Brad Dave,
it's very obvious that nobody wants to cut a dime,
nothing significant, And of course it's all well, in ten
years there'll be fifty billion. It's all the same games.
But no one's pretending like there's an actual problem when
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the math says there's a gigantic problem.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
Yeah, just to review the math in thirty seconds, right, CBO.
The Congressional Budget Office has us running two trillion dollar
deficits for the next ten years, So two times ten
is twenty trillion on top of thirty six trillion plus interest,
so you're at sixty trillion in ten years.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Right.
Speaker 11 (26:56):
So that we used to have the bond vigilanties in
and clean house, but the Federal Reserve, it's called the
Fed put they keep printing money to bail out the
rich folks on Wall Street and then Main Street suffers.
So that's the boom bus cycle we're going through right now,
right now with with Trump and things are a little different.
But on the fiscal side, yeah, neither neither side. I
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ran on it ten years ago and got absolutely pummeled.
I even brought up, you know, the the there's the
discretionary piece and then there's the mandatories. And the mandatories
include Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid all that's.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Two thirds of the budget.
Speaker 11 (27:35):
And if you mentioned that, you get you get your
head knocked off your shoulders. But I was going up
there to do the right thing. And so Elon of
all people, right is saying everything right. He's not elected
And to the Republicans defense, the Republicans are worthless on
it also, but they're competing with the tooth Ferry and
Santa Claus on the Democrat side, right. They they've never
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seen a spending bill or piece of legislation they don't like,
so it's a very hard fight.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I thought it was interesting you just mentioned how
your constituents treated.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You when you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I ran for Congress and I had mentioned Social Security
was the largest ponzi scheme in human history, which is
a verifiable fact. They pretty much lost me an election,
I lost by four thousand votes. The American people love
their government checks. They simply do. They love the government checks.
And so I guess that's a big part of why
I'm blackpill day. No one actually wants to do anything
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about it.
Speaker 11 (28:32):
Yeah, well, and you know, if you work your whole life,
you know, making the middle American family income for a
family sixty seventy thousand dollars a year, and you put
your money to Social Security, no one wants to hear
about reforms because they think they're going to get ripped off.
Because that's the only experience the average person has is
everything they do up there, I get ripped off, and
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the rich people get richer. Right, the top ten percent
own ninety percent of the stock and bonds. So the
average person is not paranoid. But medicare Medicaid.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
You know.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
The great hope is Elon would doze. I mean, he
showed us the tremendous abuse and fraud and corruption in
the State Department, Usaid funding, all sorts of CIA cutouts,
and all of our press. And you know, if he
can if he can find those cutouts on the mandatory side, right,
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the two thirds of the US budget that's that's a
hope because then you can go to the American people
and say, yeah, you're getting ripped off. We can fix it.
But that's the only way I see to make progress.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Dave, talk to me about foreign holders of our debt
and pretend as if I don't have any idea how
this works, because most people don't. They get confused. Wait, Japan,
China holds our debt?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What what?
Speaker 11 (29:55):
Yeah, well, so just look at doing a trade, right.
What happens when you do with trade? We buy Chinese
plastic stuff and you know, some stuff we need, and
so we get the frisbee and we give them a
dollar of capital, and so that they own capital, and
then they got to buy something with that. Right, So
they can buy a pubble beach, they can buy skyscrapers,
they can buy farmland out in the West unless the
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US gets smart, and they can buy our treasury bills right,
and they come in all varieties, but basically they'll hold
our debt. I think foreigners owned about, you know, fifteen
or twenty percent of our debt. So it's not a
crisis at all unless we get into a you know,
a near kinetic war, and we're getting there with China
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because they won't play team ball, right, they don't play
nice in the sandbox with anybody. We've saved Western civilization
a few times.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We've set up the.
Speaker 11 (30:48):
You know, post World War two liberal Breton Woods order,
we provide peace for shipping and the seaways across where
we're paying for the Red Sea. Right now, we only
have four percent of our shipping going through there, and
we got twenty four thousand kids on boats defending the
Red Sea for Europe who won't pay their bill. And
so when things get dicey like that, then China can
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start doing currency manipulation and selling off our treasuries and
making our bond market do hiccups. But that only signals
us that we've been stupid all the way along. Right,
We should not have ever put ourselves in a position
where one country could try to tank our major systems
or you know, monopolies and you know, pharmaceuticals, and I
could go.
Speaker 12 (31:30):
On and on and on.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well, Jennet Yellen did go on and on and on,
and this is what she said.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
If tariffs at this level remain in place, it seems
to me it must produce decoupling, and in regard that
is very undesirable. I think the tariffs that we've placed
on China are going to impose very significant burdens on
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American households.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Dave, how's this going to work with China and the
tariffs and the debt?
Speaker 12 (32:09):
Well?
Speaker 11 (32:10):
Uh, for seventy years, the US productivity has gone down,
according to the world's expert Bob Gordon at Northwestern You
can go google that. So productivity down seventy years in
a row. It's now at two percent.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
UH.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
That means wage growth is two percent. So Janet, Yellen
has done nothing to help the American household with two
percent wages, and CBO and the Federal Reserve both now
knowledge we're only going to grow GDP is going to
grow at two percent for the next thirty years. So
jelling yet, Jenny else, I don't think it's not good.
(32:43):
Who cares? The data disagree with you, Janet. And that's why,
according to CNN, fifty percent of the middle class people
are coming over to the mega Trump idea of a
of a new middle class revolution that brings jobs back. Right,
we fire five million manufacturing jobs, that crushed five million families,
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that crushed the manufacturer manufacturing sector, that crushed all the
services that surround the manufacturing sector that crushed Detroit where
I was born, Lynchburg where I am now, shoe factories, textiles, everything, man, furniture,
they're all gone. What do you got to say about that? Janet?
What's your alternative plan to give American jobs other than
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service sector and AI replaced jobs that are coming if
the elites have their way. So it's just utter nonsense.
You got to do something. Trump's doing something. We got
to write people mad at us, and that that's the
best hint.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
What do we do or what's it look like?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I guess I'll put it this way for me, the
normal American, if the debt doesn't stop, because I assume
it's not going to stop, if we just continue down
this road, what does a debt crisis.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Look like for me? Not Washington or Wall Street? For me?
What does it mean for me?
Speaker 11 (34:01):
Well, it just means more and more government sector, which
means more and more crowding out. Right, So the government
spending the Biden green stuff replaced manufacturing jobs, right, so
we all send our money to Washington, d C. The
green game was basically just a tip of the hat
in you know, code language for I'm on the Democrat
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progressive side of politics, and I agree in the face
of all evidence. Right, I think electricity output has gone
up by zero point four percent only after spending two
to three billion dollars on it, and so the productivity
is not there. The government keeps growing. The elites control
the government. The government jobs pay a decent salary, a
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high salary, double the American average, and it keeps crowding
out manufacturing jobs until we're all in low paying you know,
wage rate salary. Wage rate jobs make ten fifteen bucks
an hour, while the elites continue to get richer and
richer and richer. The Magnificent Seven firms. If you don't
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know what those are, go google. Those are all on
the left. All the oligarchs and monopolis are all on
the left. All the fortune five hundred CEOs, including Jamie Diamond,
who's been weighing in lately about his newfound fear of
all these things. You're mentioning, where were you one year ago?
Speaker 12 (35:24):
Jamie?
Speaker 11 (35:24):
Right, So all these elites, they've known it all. Bank
of America, in fact, along with the World Bank, had
a tariff chart sewing tariffs for the G twenty the
richest countries in the world have three hundred percent higher
tariffs than we do than the US, So we just
want a level playing field. We want fairness for the
American worker. That's what we're delivering. And all political views
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are my own, but it's a clear choice. That's why
the American people are moving a certain direction.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
They appreciate you as always, sir, Come exo. All right,
it's immigration time, always a heavy one. Talk to Victor
Ravila next. I hate that corporate America left us and
(36:21):
I hate that. I know I sound like an old
man when I talk about that, but let me just
say for you younger people watching, it was not like this
when when I was a kid, and I'm not ancient
and I'm forty three years old, you could turn on television.
You wouldn't get any politics in the corporate ads. It
was shoes and gatorades and whatever catchy jingles there used
(36:42):
to be jingles on TV. Now corporations use your money
against you. It's frustrating, but we have to fight back.
We can't just shrug our shoulders and say, well, times
have changed.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We have to fight back. Who's your cell phone provider?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
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the cell phone company that's on the same five G
network and doesn't hate your guns. You'll save a fortune.
You don't have to have a new phone or a
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a company that actually loves you. Puretalk, puretalk dot com,
slash JESSETV.
Speaker 9 (37:27):
Well, and this whole thing with mister Braio Garcia, it's
that old wisdom and terrifying is if you're not speaking
up for this man, there will be no one left
to speak up for you.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
We do not disappear people in the United States, because
here's the thing. If they can disappear the stir of
breakout Garcia, then they can disappear you.
Speaker 14 (37:48):
And Donald Trump could not be airlifted to another country
and just deported from the United States because he's a
criminal convict and this guy was never convicted of anything,
has no criminal record at all.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
They love illegals and their newest hero is the gang
banger we sell to El Salvador.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It's it is something else joining me now.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Victor Avila, retired special Ice Agent Victor it just must
be so exhausting when you're in ice or border patrol
trying to do things and to have these scumbags working
against you all the time, it has to be just
the most disheartening thing in the world.
Speaker 12 (38:30):
Well, it's disheartening and it's despicable, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
And I don't.
Speaker 12 (38:34):
Remember Jesse anyone saying anything, the Democrats or the mainstream
media ever, not once coming up and speaking loud about
the three million or so that Obama deported or the
millions that Bill Clinton deported. Never heard a word. But
now because President Trump is getting rid of these bad
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actors in our country, they have a problem with it.
This is they're inconsistency on the left. The American people
recognize that no one, I could tell you, no one
is against public safety. We all want public safety. It
benefits all of us. And when you start siding and
doubling down by siding with the bad guy criminal terrorists,
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by the way, they can seem to get it in
their thick heads that these people are terrorists. They have
been designated as such, and that doesn't seem to be enough.
But I've been saying this, why don't we replace MS
thirteen with isis? What would be the difference there? To
me is there's none absolutely. But if you would say,
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isis are they going to be protecting? Isis members? Is
that where we're going to now? Because that's exactly what
they're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Victor how do we get through this as a country?
Meaning how do we get through it when one of
the two political parties is committed to bringing in as
many foreigners as humanly possible and half of the other
parties two weeks to start from doing so. Look, I
love the things Donald Trump is doing, but it seems
like we're bailing water on the Titanic sometimes with this.
Speaker 12 (40:08):
It certainly does. I think that it's going to be
what we're going to see with our own eyes. I
think it's going to be the results of safer communities,
of safer schools, and look at all these shootings that
are happening. I think it's it's going to come down
to that. And yes, it's slow, it might be slow
and methodical, but in the long run, it's going to
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be you're not going to be able to deny the
positive that these actions are taking amongst our communities across
the entire nation. That is what you're not going to
be able to deny. And because they don't have that
immediate result of what we're saying, even though, let me
tell you a lot of these communities where these bad
guys have been living, they are so helpful and so grateful.
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By the way, the immigrant community, the legal immigrant community,
are the happiest that this pedophile terrorist is no longer
living next to them, because that's it, exactly where they live.
They get get boarded, they come back where they're not
next to my house, but it's next to theirs, and
they're the first ones to applaud what's happening. And I
think it's going to be in the long run unfortunately,
but you're going to see it where they're not going
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to be able to deny the positive when the positive
impact that it brings at the street level.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Speaking of the street level, can you talk about the cartels,
the cartel war that Trump has essentially declared. They have
had some strong words for it. We know they're doing things,
we know there are drones in the skies. Are the
American people going to see, you know, results in their
own lives from this cartel war?
Speaker 12 (41:41):
Absolutely? I think it's the preparations are way underway. Look
at what the US military active military is on our
border now with this zone, this this buffer zone that
we have on the border. That's a huge, huge step forward.
Several things. Illegal immigration. Obviously they're cartels with the drugs,
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the pentom al, the math, the cocaine that is still
trying to come into this country. But now you have
active duty military not just to stop to prevent it,
but the intelligence that they're gathering. Remember these strikers, these
little mini tanks that they send down there, the intel
that they're grabbing with those, they can see up to
two miles, the drones that were flying and countering the
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drones that the cartels are flying. That's a big problem.
By the way, the cartels have been getting away with
flying their drones not only with drugs, but gathering their
intel against us. So you're going to see some major changes.
I hate to say this again, but it is slow
and methodical. The military happens to be that way in preparing.
But I think they're doing the right way. They're showing us,
they're telling us, listen, this is the we're laying the
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foundation because there's going to be some action. Whether it's
inside of Mexico, I don't know that yet, but it's
definitely going to be. We have enough to do here
inside our own boarders, believing these cartel members are present everywhere.
We need to go after these bad actors here.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
They certainly are president here along with millions and millions
of others. Here was Stephen Miller at the White House.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
There's fifteen million illegal aliens the Vitol edge of the country.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
If every one of them got the trial that you're
asking for, it would take us centuries to remove them.
Speaker 12 (43:15):
Centuries. We've been talking about this.
Speaker 11 (43:17):
In three four hundred years. Their great great great grandchildren.
Speaker 10 (43:20):
Would be the ones representing them in court.
Speaker 9 (43:22):
That's how long it would take.
Speaker 12 (43:23):
The illegal aliens who.
Speaker 10 (43:25):
Come to our country have to be removed, and they
have to remove quickly. And that is an essential component
of having something that we like to call a country.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Victor.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
How many were you going to be able to get
out in four years?
Speaker 12 (43:40):
That's the major question, because you saw the millions under
other presidents get removed, but they didn't have the obstruction right,
they didn't have the judges ruling against them. And on
top of this, Jesse, the procedures were very different. Just
even under the Obama years that I worked under. They
were the the do process that you hear the left
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talking about is very different.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Now.
Speaker 12 (44:03):
They have inundated the immigration system with so much paperwork
that that's the reason why they call this guy, oh,
he was sent to Roni Instels because of a piece
of paper, which actually means nothing at this point. However,
they have made it that much more difficult because now
it matters where the person came from, what country that
person came from, how that person entered the country, and
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there is a process there now when it comes to terrorists,
all that doesn't exist, by the way, if you come
in with the visa, the student visas or any other
kind of visa that these people have come in, by
the way illegally. That you saw President Trump get rid
of the Sea people one app and those people will
no longer have any status. I knew that was going
to happen. Now they're fighting to keep the ones that
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came in under the parole process, which was completely illegal
as well. I see that also happening. They're going to
take away that permit. But those people, including the Overstates,
that came in with visas, have there there's no due
process there. If you are one of those people in
those in that category, you can get detected and removed immediately.
And that's what the part of the left that doesn't
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understand this because they don't understand immigration law. All they
have to do is research it a little bit. It's
an immigration Nationality Act that I have here behind me,
and it's a matter of messaging I think from the
White House as well. But it doesn't seem I mean,
Stephen Miller can put it clearer than what it is.
Is crystal clear about it, and they still don't want
to hear the truth. And when you have a party
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siding with the bad guys, siding with terrorists, I don't
see them winning another election.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
It's gonna be rough. Good Victor, thank you, sir, I
appreciate it. Final thoughts next, Look, we talk about these
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threats because if we don't acknowledge them, we can't do
anything about it. And it can seem overwhelming, and honestly,
it can seem like it just beats you down sometimes,
doesn't it. What are you What am I supposed to
do about the debt about immigration? What are we supposed
to do about the weaponization of government? I can't do
anything with the FBI. What am I supposed to do?
(46:30):
What am I supposed to do? Well, the first thing
we have to do is realize there's a problem, and
then we have to start seeking out political leaders who
are willing to do something about the problem. We can
do something. What we have lacked is not the ability.
We have lacked the will. The people we have there
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now they do not have the will to address these
things in a real way.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
So we have to work on that.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
The communists didn't manage to take over everything after decades
and decades and decades of.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Work just by accident. They worked for it.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
It took them a long time to get them in
the position where we are now, so we will take
us a long time. But all we can do is
start right. We're not going to fix the debt tomorrow.
We're not going to fix immigration tomorrow. We're not going
to fix the weaponized government tomorrow. But we can begin,
can't we. Let's never go back. Let's begin heading in
the right direction.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
All right, We'll do it again.
Let's talk about the greatest threats to America. But before
we do that, let's look back a little bit, because
there are some historical stories that I think about, like
ones that stand out in my mind. Empires don't last forever,
no matter how big and powerful they were.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know about the Assyrians.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You of course have heard about them, maybe you read
about them in the Bible, or if your history teacher
was worth anything, they taught you about this powerful, powerful
civilization that ruled everything with an iron fist in their
area for a while. And then there's this famous story
hundreds of years later Greeks, a Greek army was on
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the run. I won't go into the details. And they're
in the middle of nowhere, that's what they thought, in
the middle of nowhere. And they came as this gigantic city,
walls and everything, only it was empty. It had been
abandoned in as Syrian city. And they just there were
days had to take it in that there was some
ancient society so powerful and now gone.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
The Romans.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
When the Romans during the Third and Final Punic War,
when they conquered Carthage, and they were burning the city
of Carthage, killing everybody and doing all those things. The
Roman general leading that whole thing sat down and wept.
Now he didn't weep for the people of Carthage. He
wept because there was this huge, gigantic, powerful empire, the
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Carthaginian Empire, gigantic, unbelievably powerful, and he was watching the
end of it, and he knew, he knew, he wrote
it down, he knew that would come for Rome one
day too. Societies don't last forever. Countries, empires, they do
not last forever. We who are here now we like
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to think it will. And when we look at our kids.
I have two sons, Lord willing one day they'll have children,
we want to know that it'll be there, that America
will be.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There for them.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But that's not how life works. And we have a
uniquely warped perspective of that here in America. And I
don't say that because we're dumb. I say that because
we've been number one forever. We've been top dog. For
the entirety of my life. There's been no question what
the biggest, most powerful country on Earth is. And when
you are that, when you're America in the year twenty
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twenty five, when you're Rome in the year one hundred.
When you're the Assyrian that when you are top dog
at your given moment in history, you feel like that
the end of your empire will never ever come.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
But it does.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So what will get us in the end, Well, first
let's talk about immigration.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
There's really three things that are going to get us
in the end. Immigration.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No country of any size can stand up to the
mass importation of foreigners no country. Countries have tried throughout history,
and they have failed every single time.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It simply doesn't work. You have a country.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The only point in being a country is because you
have a cohesive society and agreed upon culture. So you
can't massively import other cultures and remain a country. You
will eventually break up as a country. Internally, you already
see this here in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You will break up.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
There'll be a faction here in a tribe there, and
that you can't remain cohesive with eight million cultures. Now
that brings us to what democrats have done to us
with the help of Republicans like James Langford of Oklahoma.
You see democrats because their goal is not only power,
but the eventual breakup of America. America sucks. After all,
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it's evil. Their goal is to bring in as many
people as possible. And I need to make sure I
stress this because people on the right have such a
hard time accepting that we're dealing with evil. They have
a hard time accepting what I just said. Democrats didn't
open up the border because they have some misguided compassion
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for immigrants, right that that is, if you're on the
right and a good person, that's the excuse you make
for Democrats. If you're trying to excuse the evil crap
they just got done doing for four years, well, I
mean they just open up misguided. I actually saw someone
today they're misguided border policies. It's not misguided at all.
(04:39):
You're misguided. They're very guided. They have a purpose in mind.
Their goal is to massively import foreigners so they can
remain in power. Foreigners will vote Democrat all the time,
and that's one benefit. The other benefit is the crime
foreigners will bring. When you massively import twenty million people
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in years, you're gonna have so many rapists and murderers there.
And so they didn't just open up the border. It's
not like they just opened up the door to the
shop and then kind of walked away, all right, the
shop's open, I'm gonna I'm gonna go out back and
have a sing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
They opened up the door to the shop and then
they put up a sign said everyone get in here,
and looked the place. And then they actually took it
a step further. They went out into the town and
grabbed as many people as they could and brought them
to the shop. Democrats flew people into this country as
fast as they could with your money. As fast as
they could with your money they created.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Democrats are so evil they.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Created an app so foreigners could schedule their invasion of
your country. That's how evil the modern Democrat party is.
What are the results. Well, Rachel Morin was a mother
of five. She went out for a jog one day
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in Maryland. A barbarian attacked her, did not kill her
right away, dragged her into the woods. Every woman's nightmare, right,
Everyone I've ever talked to has this nightmare in the
back of their head.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, Rachel Morin lived it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Dragged this young mother into the woods, abused her in
ways that I will not say here on the show,
and then killed her. She did not die quickly, she
did not die well, and Democrats brought those people into
the country on purpose.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
This was Rachel Moore's mother.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Why are we not protecting the American citizens? It's just
common sense. Why are we not protecting our children? And
to have a senator from Maryland who didn't even acknowledge
or barely acknowledged my daughter and the brutal death that
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she endured, leaving her five children without a mother and
now a grand baby without a grandmother, so that he
can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador
to bring back someone that's not even an American citizen.
(07:18):
Why does that person have more right than I do,
or my daughter or my grandchildren. I don't understand this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
She, of course, is referencing Senator Chris van Holland of Maryland,
who spent your taxpayer money instead of fighting for this country,
actually got on a plane and videoed it. He was
proud of this, got on a plane and flew down
to El Salvador attempting to grab and return to America
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a non citizen gang member.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, I'm asking President Bukayley to Okay, I'm asking President Bukeley,
under his authority as President of Al Salvador to do
the right thing and allow to Strawbrego Garcia to walk out
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of a prison, a man who's charged with no crime,
convicted of no crime, and who was illegally abducted from
the United States.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm struggling to find the exact words I want to
use for where this puts US as a country. Look,
I'm going to talk about the debt really quickly, and
I'm going to talk about the bureocracy. But this is
not just some random sociology major.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
We now have our.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Highest up elected officials. They are committed to bringing in
as many foreign barbarians as they can, and if we
happen to get one out, they fly abroad to bring
them back. I don't know where we're going from here.
I don't know how we fix it. I really don't.
(09:15):
And look, i'ven't even gotten to the debt. Let's just
let's talk about the debt. This is the one. Maybe
this is the one that exasperates me the most because
this is not a partisan issue. No, there's actually no
arguing what I'm about to say. You can argue time frames,
but there's no arguing what I'm about to say. The
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debt situation in the United States of America will cause
some form of dire fiscal collapse, not just for America,
but frankly for the entire globe, because when we collapsed,
everyone around the globe will And what I just said
is one hundred percent true. It will happen. And it's
just simple math. You can't you can't pile up endless
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amounts of debt. That's not how it works. It's never
it's never worked that way. This was Jerome Powe.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
US federal debt is on an unsustainable path. It's not
at an unsustainable level, and no one really knows how
much further we can go. Other countries over time have
gone much farther. But we're now, you know, we're running
very large deficits at full employment, and this is a
situation that we very much need to address. Sooner or later,
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we'll have to and and sooner is better than later.
In terms of if I can say from my time
working on these issues, it's not the Fed's issue, but
the If you look at a pie chart of federal spending,
the biggest parts in the parts that are growing are Medicare, Medicaid,
Social Security and now interest payments and so that's really
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where the work has to be. It has to be done,
and those are issues that can only be touched on
a bipartisan basis.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
We can't sustain this. And everyone knows it, not just you,
I know you already know it. Everyone in Washington, DC
knows it, all of them. I have asked every senator
friend I have, every member of the House I know.
I've asked them point blank. You've seen me ask them
on this show. Does nobody care that this is gonna end?
And virtually every one of them has said, Oh, they
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all know it's gonna end. It's gonna end bad. They're
all just kind of hoping it ends after they're gone.
That's how crazy this situation is.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You can't do this.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And the American people, by the way, they have no
stomach for cuts either. These politicians. The reasons they don't cut.
The American people don't ask for cuts. In fact, the
American people demand you don't if you even threaten to
cut something, the people running out of office, you better
not cut my benefits. Okay, well, we're all gonna get
cut here at some point in time, but keep doing
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the same thing.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And that brings me to.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I don't know if it's the movie the evil portion
of this, because the immigration parts very very evil. But
the communist infiltration and weaponization of the United States government
in ways recently that we have.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Never ever, ever seen before.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I have never in my forty three years on this earth,
and in fact I know a bit about America's history,
America's presidents.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I have looked.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I've never in the history of this country seen an
American president speak this way to the American pupil.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Over two hundred million Americans have gotten at least one shot.
You've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin, and
your refusal has cost all of us.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Our patients is wearing thin. There's in patience with us,
mister President.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
For four years, we saw abuses by the government that
I never thought I would see in this country in
my life. Federal Bureau of Investigation going through school board
meeting parking lots while mothers were inside angry about the
demonic filth their children were learning in school. The Federal
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Bureau of Investigation was deployed against those mothers to jot
down their license plates, open up files on them, and
place them on a potential domestic terrorist list that happened
in this country. Donald Trump had his home raided by
the FBI in response to a Supreme Court ruling that
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made the communists angry. America's Department of Justice dug up
an old obscure law called the Face Act and sent
the FBI after pro life activists across the country.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
We are in a very very dangerous place. Trump or
no Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Pam BONDI keeps laying out all these threats.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
We will find out who you are, and we will
come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrorist. You better look
out because we're coming after you. And if you've committed fraud,
we're coming after you. You better watch out because we're
coming after you. Let me be very clear, if you
don't comply with federal law, you're going to be next.
Let this be a warning. You can run, but you
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cannot hide. Justice is coming.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I hope so, Pam, because if it doesn't, and these
people when they get back in power, oh boy, all
that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
We'll talk to J.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Michael Waller about the FBI next.
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Speaker 8 (16:05):
I promised you the following there will be accountability within
the FBI.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Good.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I'm looking forward to that joining me now. J. Michael Waller,
former CIA operative counter intelligence expert, is also an author. Okay,
J Michael, Before we get to the accountability portion of this,
why don't you and your much more expert ways than
I talk about how bad it got at the FBI.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Before Cash got there.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
It got really bad. So our big focus was on
the wokeness and the politicization and the abuses that had
occurred and you know, rotted the FBI at the core
over the years. But there's a lot more. Our counterintelligence
is terrible defending our country from foreign spies. The counter
intelligence part of the FBI is one of the most
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corrupt of the whole bureau. They were the ones who
set up Operation Crossfire Hurricane. One of their top guys
that was convicted working for Albanian intelligence and he's probably
a Russian spy. So it's really really rotten inside.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, well I need you to expand a lot more
than that on what you just said right there.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
What how.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
Yeah, Well, first, the FBI has has its own real
discipline problem inside. It's got a crooked mentality at the top,
and two of the most important pillars within protecting our
country from corrupt officials, it's politicized, it's abusive, and then
protecting our country from foreign spies, Chinese spies, Russian spies,
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Jehada spies, you name it. It's doing a terrible job.
And some of the top people like Charles McGonagall He
was head of counterintelligence at the New York Field Office.
That's the biggest field office of the FBI, over twelve
hundred people, most powerful one apart from maybe the Washington
Field Office. He's in prison right now. He was part
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of Operation Cross Hurricane that was spying on the Trump
campaign and setting up the whole Russian collusion narrative. So
he was busted only because he was taking money from Albanians.
But really, if you look at his record, I would
bet my salary that he was a Russian spy, and
the FBI covered that up. They even didn't do what
they call a damage assessment. When you have a crooked
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FBI agent or somebody who might have been a spy,
you do a damage assessment to see what kind of
damage this bad agent caused, not just the FBI itself
but the whole country. They had one person doing the
damage assessment and it was lame. And this is something
that's been going on for decades. I was involved in
the Robert Hanson case. This was twenty five years ago.
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Top counter intelligence officer there in the FBI ended up
being a Russian spy and was convicted of it. Died
in prison a year or so ago. They didn't do it.
They cut off the damage assessment team of him early
because they didn't want to know the DAMA. So the
culture of the FBI has been rotten for a whole
generation or more.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Okay, so help me understand. Is this just the FBI
protecting the FBI?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Is that basically what this comes down to.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
They don't want bad press, They don't want they don't
want to purge this bad apple or that bad apple
because then you risk prying eyes from Congress and the
American people.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Is it deeper than that?
Speaker 9 (19:24):
It's deeper than that. The FBI is not just a
fraternity where everyone's looking out for one another. And there
might be reasons to defend the bureau here there certainly.
But the biggest crime you can commit in the FBI
is not to commit treason against the United States. It's
not to politicize the FBI for partisan purposes. The worst
crime you can commit in the FBI is to embarrass
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the FBI.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
When did this and I realize this is many, many
years in the making. I've had plenty of friends tell
me that it was Barack Obama, surprise, surprise, who really
put this into overdrive by placing his people throughout the bureau.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Is that true?
Speaker 9 (20:04):
Yeah, he did it. He politicized it, He had the
wokeness imposed on it from above and then recruiting younger
recruits from below and then artificially promoting him through DEI.
That's what the little Dei scam was in the government. It
was to artificially promote people who simply weren't promotable, let
alone hireable, and putting them in charge as lawyers, as managers,
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as people who hire people who do the promotions. Even
field office special agents in charge of the field offices,
the local FBI offices around the country. So you might
remember not long ago, there was that act of Jahada's
terrorism in New Orleans and you had the top FBI
person on duty at the time, the assistant Special Agent
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in charge, come out and contradict the mayor of No
Orlands saying that was not an act of terrorism when
it was. This is common throughout the whole bureau.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay, you have the top risks, the top.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Counter intelligence officer hunting for it spies in the Washington,
d C. Field Office. Her name is Sarah Lindon. She
took the knee for Black Lives Matter, and she got
a promotion and an illegal gratuity.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Okay, why she's still there?
Speaker 9 (21:18):
We don't know that she's not there. We don't know
all of the things that are having but she's not alone.
That's the problem. There hasn't been no announcement that she's
not there, so we have to presume she still is.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, how do we take the apart the FBI, because
that's what I want.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Yeah, Well, cash Pttel promised that he would take really
strong actions. He's taking some actions. He's taking some good actions,
but we need to hold him to his promise. We
can't beat him up over it because just him and
Dan Bongino, it's a two man hostel takeover of a
thirty seven thousand person organization. But we do need to
keep demanding progress. And if we don't see that progress,
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as Dan Bongino himself has said, don't expect me to
say trust me. Bongino said on X he said, trust
us by our actions. But our actions are going to
take a while. So I'm cutting them a bit of slack.
But and I urge everybody else to, but not too
much slack, because the bureau itself is going to the
way the bureau has maintained control of every director since
Jaeger Hoover is to surround him and they run the
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director instead of the director running the bureau. That's the
big danger we're up against right now.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, So Cash, I don't know Dan I do, and
I do trust him. Does he have the power to
make these reforms or as you just said, is the
FBI itself much more powerful than the director deputy director
and they're simply going to stop all these reforms.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Well, I trust them too. The problem is it's just
two guys. They have a huge staff. They've got a
gigantic management that George W. Bush and Barack Obama put together.
It's a giant, top heavy management of real brown nosers,
and a lot of people have very bad character. Sixty
odd senior executive positions at the top of the bureau.
That thing should have gone day one, but it didn't.
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Only a few people were removed. So as long as
they're there, you're going to have the bureaucracy just surround
Dan Bongino and Cash Betel and try to be helpful
to them and indispensable to them so that they won't
be able to function without these bad elements around them.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
What role does Congress have or can Congress even step
in here? Look, we all want Congress to well, I
shouldn't say we all. I want Congress to defund them,
to do things with fangs. Doesn't seem like they're ever
willing to do that, So that kind of makes us stuck, right, it.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
Does make us stuck, Jesse. There has never been a
serious congressional oversight investigation of the FBI in half a century.
Oh half a century has gone by, and that was
the only one in the FBI's entire history. So more
than one hundred years, there's only been one year is
congressional investigation? Good?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Agree? J Michael, Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
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Speaker 10 (25:31):
The cost of our debt has gotten so high that
just the interest payments on the debt exceed the entire
military budget. And it was just growing out of control.
So the country is going bankrupt. It's just you know,
country is not different from a person. If a country overspends,
it doesn't spend wisely, just like a person, a country
will go bankrupt. So the reason I'm here is because
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I'm I'm very worried about America going bankrupt due to
the corruption of waste, and if we're going to do
something about it, America is going to sink. And we're
all on that ship.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well we all are.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
We're all on that ship, and yet nobody's going to
do anything about it. I'm one hundred percent convinced I
am the most black filled person in the world when
it comes to the debt at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Maybe Dave will talk me out the ledge.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Maybe he won't joining me now the senior vice president
of Business Engagement at Liberty University, the Great Dave Brad Dave,
it's very obvious that nobody wants to cut a dime,
nothing significant, And of course it's all well, in ten
years there'll be fifty billion. It's all the same games.
But no one's pretending like there's an actual problem when
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the math says there's a gigantic problem.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
Yeah, just to review the math in thirty seconds, right, CBO.
The Congressional Budget Office has us running two trillion dollar
deficits for the next ten years, So two times ten
is twenty trillion on top of thirty six trillion plus interest,
so you're at sixty trillion in ten years.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Right.
Speaker 11 (26:56):
So that we used to have the bond vigilanties in
and clean house, but the Federal Reserve, it's called the
Fed put they keep printing money to bail out the
rich folks on Wall Street and then Main Street suffers.
So that's the boom bus cycle we're going through right now,
right now with with Trump and things are a little different.
But on the fiscal side, yeah, neither neither side. I
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ran on it ten years ago and got absolutely pummeled.
I even brought up, you know, the the there's the
discretionary piece and then there's the mandatories. And the mandatories
include Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid all that's.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Two thirds of the budget.
Speaker 11 (27:35):
And if you mentioned that, you get you get your
head knocked off your shoulders. But I was going up
there to do the right thing. And so Elon of
all people, right is saying everything right. He's not elected
And to the Republicans defense, the Republicans are worthless on
it also, but they're competing with the tooth Ferry and
Santa Claus on the Democrat side, right. They they've never
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seen a spending bill or piece of legislation they don't like,
so it's a very hard fight.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I thought it was interesting you just mentioned how
your constituents treated.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You when you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I ran for Congress and I had mentioned Social Security
was the largest ponzi scheme in human history, which is
a verifiable fact. They pretty much lost me an election,
I lost by four thousand votes. The American people love
their government checks. They simply do. They love the government checks.
And so I guess that's a big part of why
I'm blackpill day. No one actually wants to do anything
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about it.
Speaker 11 (28:32):
Yeah, well, and you know, if you work your whole life,
you know, making the middle American family income for a
family sixty seventy thousand dollars a year, and you put
your money to Social Security, no one wants to hear
about reforms because they think they're going to get ripped off.
Because that's the only experience the average person has is
everything they do up there, I get ripped off, and
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the rich people get richer. Right, the top ten percent
own ninety percent of the stock and bonds. So the
average person is not paranoid. But medicare Medicaid.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
You know.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
The great hope is Elon would doze. I mean, he
showed us the tremendous abuse and fraud and corruption in
the State Department, Usaid funding, all sorts of CIA cutouts,
and all of our press. And you know, if he
can if he can find those cutouts on the mandatory side, right,
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the two thirds of the US budget that's that's a
hope because then you can go to the American people
and say, yeah, you're getting ripped off. We can fix it.
But that's the only way I see to make progress.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Dave, talk to me about foreign holders of our debt
and pretend as if I don't have any idea how
this works, because most people don't. They get confused. Wait, Japan,
China holds our debt?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What what?
Speaker 11 (29:55):
Yeah, well, so just look at doing a trade, right.
What happens when you do with trade? We buy Chinese
plastic stuff and you know, some stuff we need, and
so we get the frisbee and we give them a
dollar of capital, and so that they own capital, and
then they got to buy something with that. Right, So
they can buy a pubble beach, they can buy skyscrapers,
they can buy farmland out in the West unless the
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US gets smart, and they can buy our treasury bills right,
and they come in all varieties, but basically they'll hold
our debt. I think foreigners owned about, you know, fifteen
or twenty percent of our debt. So it's not a
crisis at all unless we get into a you know,
a near kinetic war, and we're getting there with China
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because they won't play team ball, right, they don't play
nice in the sandbox with anybody. We've saved Western civilization
a few times.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We've set up the.
Speaker 11 (30:48):
You know, post World War two liberal Breton Woods order,
we provide peace for shipping and the seaways across where
we're paying for the Red Sea. Right now, we only
have four percent of our shipping going through there, and
we got twenty four thousand kids on boats defending the
Red Sea for Europe who won't pay their bill. And
so when things get dicey like that, then China can
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start doing currency manipulation and selling off our treasuries and
making our bond market do hiccups. But that only signals
us that we've been stupid all the way along. Right,
We should not have ever put ourselves in a position
where one country could try to tank our major systems
or you know, monopolies and you know, pharmaceuticals, and I
could go.
Speaker 12 (31:30):
On and on and on.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well, Jennet Yellen did go on and on and on,
and this is what she said.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
If tariffs at this level remain in place, it seems
to me it must produce decoupling, and in regard that
is very undesirable. I think the tariffs that we've placed
on China are going to impose very significant burdens on
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American households.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Dave, how's this going to work with China and the
tariffs and the debt?
Speaker 12 (32:09):
Well?
Speaker 11 (32:10):
Uh, for seventy years, the US productivity has gone down,
according to the world's expert Bob Gordon at Northwestern You
can go google that. So productivity down seventy years in
a row. It's now at two percent.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
UH.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
That means wage growth is two percent. So Janet, Yellen
has done nothing to help the American household with two
percent wages, and CBO and the Federal Reserve both now
knowledge we're only going to grow GDP is going to
grow at two percent for the next thirty years. So
jelling yet, Jenny else, I don't think it's not good.
(32:43):
Who cares? The data disagree with you, Janet. And that's why,
according to CNN, fifty percent of the middle class people
are coming over to the mega Trump idea of a
of a new middle class revolution that brings jobs back. Right,
we fire five million manufacturing jobs, that crushed five million families,
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that crushed the manufacturer manufacturing sector, that crushed all the
services that surround the manufacturing sector that crushed Detroit where
I was born, Lynchburg where I am now, shoe factories, textiles, everything, man, furniture,
they're all gone. What do you got to say about that? Janet?
What's your alternative plan to give American jobs other than
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service sector and AI replaced jobs that are coming if
the elites have their way. So it's just utter nonsense.
You got to do something. Trump's doing something. We got
to write people mad at us, and that that's the
best hint.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
What do we do or what's it look like?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I guess I'll put it this way for me, the
normal American, if the debt doesn't stop, because I assume
it's not going to stop, if we just continue down
this road, what does a debt crisis.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Look like for me? Not Washington or Wall Street? For me?
What does it mean for me?
Speaker 11 (34:01):
Well, it just means more and more government sector, which
means more and more crowding out. Right, So the government
spending the Biden green stuff replaced manufacturing jobs, right, so
we all send our money to Washington, d C. The
green game was basically just a tip of the hat
in you know, code language for I'm on the Democrat
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progressive side of politics, and I agree in the face
of all evidence. Right, I think electricity output has gone
up by zero point four percent only after spending two
to three billion dollars on it, and so the productivity
is not there. The government keeps growing. The elites control
the government. The government jobs pay a decent salary, a
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high salary, double the American average, and it keeps crowding
out manufacturing jobs until we're all in low paying you know,
wage rate salary. Wage rate jobs make ten fifteen bucks
an hour, while the elites continue to get richer and
richer and richer. The Magnificent Seven firms. If you don't
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know what those are, go google. Those are all on
the left. All the oligarchs and monopolis are all on
the left. All the fortune five hundred CEOs, including Jamie Diamond,
who's been weighing in lately about his newfound fear of
all these things. You're mentioning, where were you one year ago?
Speaker 12 (35:24):
Jamie?
Speaker 11 (35:24):
Right, So all these elites, they've known it all. Bank
of America, in fact, along with the World Bank, had
a tariff chart sewing tariffs for the G twenty the
richest countries in the world have three hundred percent higher
tariffs than we do than the US, So we just
want a level playing field. We want fairness for the
American worker. That's what we're delivering. And all political views
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are my own, but it's a clear choice. That's why
the American people are moving a certain direction.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
They appreciate you as always, sir, Come exo. All right,
it's immigration time, always a heavy one. Talk to Victor
Ravila next. I hate that corporate America left us and
(36:21):
I hate that. I know I sound like an old
man when I talk about that, but let me just
say for you younger people watching, it was not like this
when when I was a kid, and I'm not ancient
and I'm forty three years old, you could turn on television.
You wouldn't get any politics in the corporate ads. It
was shoes and gatorades and whatever catchy jingles there used
(36:42):
to be jingles on TV. Now corporations use your money
against you. It's frustrating, but we have to fight back.
We can't just shrug our shoulders and say, well, times
have changed.
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Speaker 9 (37:27):
Well, and this whole thing with mister Braio Garcia, it's
that old wisdom and terrifying is if you're not speaking
up for this man, there will be no one left
to speak up for you.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
We do not disappear people in the United States, because
here's the thing. If they can disappear the stir of
breakout Garcia, then they can disappear you.
Speaker 14 (37:48):
And Donald Trump could not be airlifted to another country
and just deported from the United States because he's a
criminal convict and this guy was never convicted of anything,
has no criminal record at all.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
They love illegals and their newest hero is the gang
banger we sell to El Salvador.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It's it is something else joining me now.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Victor Avila, retired special Ice Agent Victor it just must
be so exhausting when you're in ice or border patrol
trying to do things and to have these scumbags working
against you all the time, it has to be just
the most disheartening thing in the world.
Speaker 12 (38:30):
Well, it's disheartening and it's despicable, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
And I don't.
Speaker 12 (38:34):
Remember Jesse anyone saying anything, the Democrats or the mainstream
media ever, not once coming up and speaking loud about
the three million or so that Obama deported or the
millions that Bill Clinton deported. Never heard a word. But
now because President Trump is getting rid of these bad
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actors in our country, they have a problem with it.
This is they're inconsistency on the left. The American people
recognize that no one, I could tell you, no one
is against public safety. We all want public safety. It
benefits all of us. And when you start siding and
doubling down by siding with the bad guy criminal terrorists,
(39:18):
by the way, they can seem to get it in
their thick heads that these people are terrorists. They have
been designated as such, and that doesn't seem to be enough.
But I've been saying this, why don't we replace MS
thirteen with isis? What would be the difference there? To
me is there's none absolutely. But if you would say,
(39:38):
isis are they going to be protecting? Isis members? Is
that where we're going to now? Because that's exactly what
they're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Victor how do we get through this as a country?
Meaning how do we get through it when one of
the two political parties is committed to bringing in as
many foreigners as humanly possible and half of the other
parties two weeks to start from doing so. Look, I
love the things Donald Trump is doing, but it seems
like we're bailing water on the Titanic sometimes with this.
Speaker 12 (40:08):
It certainly does. I think that it's going to be
what we're going to see with our own eyes. I
think it's going to be the results of safer communities,
of safer schools, and look at all these shootings that
are happening. I think it's it's going to come down
to that. And yes, it's slow, it might be slow
and methodical, but in the long run, it's going to
(40:28):
be you're not going to be able to deny the
positive that these actions are taking amongst our communities across
the entire nation. That is what you're not going to
be able to deny. And because they don't have that
immediate result of what we're saying, even though, let me
tell you a lot of these communities where these bad
guys have been living, they are so helpful and so grateful.
(40:52):
By the way, the immigrant community, the legal immigrant community,
are the happiest that this pedophile terrorist is no longer
living next to them, because that's it, exactly where they live.
They get get boarded, they come back where they're not
next to my house, but it's next to theirs, and
they're the first ones to applaud what's happening. And I
think it's going to be in the long run unfortunately,
but you're going to see it where they're not going
(41:14):
to be able to deny the positive when the positive
impact that it brings at the street level.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Speaking of the street level, can you talk about the cartels,
the cartel war that Trump has essentially declared. They have
had some strong words for it. We know they're doing things,
we know there are drones in the skies. Are the
American people going to see, you know, results in their
own lives from this cartel war?
Speaker 12 (41:41):
Absolutely? I think it's the preparations are way underway. Look
at what the US military active military is on our
border now with this zone, this this buffer zone that
we have on the border. That's a huge, huge step forward.
Several things. Illegal immigration. Obviously they're cartels with the drugs,
(42:01):
the pentom al, the math, the cocaine that is still
trying to come into this country. But now you have
active duty military not just to stop to prevent it,
but the intelligence that they're gathering. Remember these strikers, these
little mini tanks that they send down there, the intel
that they're grabbing with those, they can see up to
two miles, the drones that were flying and countering the
(42:21):
drones that the cartels are flying. That's a big problem.
By the way, the cartels have been getting away with
flying their drones not only with drugs, but gathering their
intel against us. So you're going to see some major changes.
I hate to say this again, but it is slow
and methodical. The military happens to be that way in preparing.
But I think they're doing the right way. They're showing us,
they're telling us, listen, this is the we're laying the
(42:44):
foundation because there's going to be some action. Whether it's
inside of Mexico, I don't know that yet, but it's
definitely going to be. We have enough to do here
inside our own boarders, believing these cartel members are present everywhere.
We need to go after these bad actors here.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
They certainly are president here along with millions and millions
of others. Here was Stephen Miller at the White House.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
There's fifteen million illegal aliens the Vitol edge of the country.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
If every one of them got the trial that you're
asking for, it would take us centuries to remove them.
Speaker 12 (43:15):
Centuries. We've been talking about this.
Speaker 11 (43:17):
In three four hundred years. Their great great great grandchildren.
Speaker 10 (43:20):
Would be the ones representing them in court.
Speaker 9 (43:22):
That's how long it would take.
Speaker 12 (43:23):
The illegal aliens who.
Speaker 10 (43:25):
Come to our country have to be removed, and they
have to remove quickly. And that is an essential component
of having something that we like to call a country.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Victor.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
How many were you going to be able to get
out in four years?
Speaker 12 (43:40):
That's the major question, because you saw the millions under
other presidents get removed, but they didn't have the obstruction right,
they didn't have the judges ruling against them. And on
top of this, Jesse, the procedures were very different. Just
even under the Obama years that I worked under. They
were the the do process that you hear the left
(44:01):
talking about is very different.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Now.
Speaker 12 (44:03):
They have inundated the immigration system with so much paperwork
that that's the reason why they call this guy, oh,
he was sent to Roni Instels because of a piece
of paper, which actually means nothing at this point. However,
they have made it that much more difficult because now
it matters where the person came from, what country that
person came from, how that person entered the country, and
(44:27):
there is a process there now when it comes to terrorists,
all that doesn't exist, by the way, if you come
in with the visa, the student visas or any other
kind of visa that these people have come in, by
the way illegally. That you saw President Trump get rid
of the Sea people one app and those people will
no longer have any status. I knew that was going
to happen. Now they're fighting to keep the ones that
(44:48):
came in under the parole process, which was completely illegal
as well. I see that also happening. They're going to
take away that permit. But those people, including the Overstates,
that came in with visas, have there there's no due
process there. If you are one of those people in
those in that category, you can get detected and removed immediately.
And that's what the part of the left that doesn't
(45:09):
understand this because they don't understand immigration law. All they
have to do is research it a little bit. It's
an immigration Nationality Act that I have here behind me,
and it's a matter of messaging I think from the
White House as well. But it doesn't seem I mean,
Stephen Miller can put it clearer than what it is.
Is crystal clear about it, and they still don't want
to hear the truth. And when you have a party
(45:33):
siding with the bad guys, siding with terrorists, I don't
see them winning another election.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
It's gonna be rough. Good Victor, thank you, sir, I
appreciate it. Final thoughts next, Look, we talk about these
(46:09):
threats because if we don't acknowledge them, we can't do
anything about it. And it can seem overwhelming, and honestly,
it can seem like it just beats you down sometimes,
doesn't it. What are you What am I supposed to
do about the debt about immigration? What are we supposed
to do about the weaponization of government? I can't do
anything with the FBI. What am I supposed to do?
(46:30):
What am I supposed to do? Well, the first thing
we have to do is realize there's a problem, and
then we have to start seeking out political leaders who
are willing to do something about the problem. We can
do something. What we have lacked is not the ability.
We have lacked the will. The people we have there
(46:51):
now they do not have the will to address these
things in a real way.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
So we have to work on that.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
The communists didn't manage to take over everything after decades
and decades and decades of.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Work just by accident. They worked for it.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
It took them a long time to get them in
the position where we are now, so we will take
us a long time. But all we can do is
start right. We're not going to fix the debt tomorrow.
We're not going to fix immigration tomorrow. We're not going
to fix the weaponized government tomorrow. But we can begin,
can't we. Let's never go back. Let's begin heading in
the right direction.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
All right, We'll do it again.
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