December 6, 2024 • 44 mins
The Senate Slowdown is real. Pete Hegseth's confirmation hangs in the balance as Joni Ernst is the latest to be non-committal over the Defense Secretary appointment. D.O.G.E. has arrived for a visit on Capitol Hill. Mike Benz joins the show to talk about preemptive pardons from the Biden Administration. Corey DeAngelis joins Jesse to discuss our future, the children, in the education system moving forward. And Pro-Life Advocate Dr. Abby Johnson talks about the Supreme Court case in Tennessee.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's time to encourage you by bringing some reality about
reforms and how long they take.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We'll talk about that tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This has to do with hag Seth, the Department of
Government Efficiency. Mike Bens is here to tell us how
the deep state managed to lose this election. Corey DeAngelis
all that and more coming up, and I'm right all right,
(00:31):
So let's have a little heart to heart little chat,
shall we about reform and saving the country and the
Senate and Pete hag Seth and everything else. But before
we get to that, you know, I had a buddy
one time in the Marines, and he trained. He was
always training. He did the strong man competitions. Have you
(00:52):
ever seen those? The world's Strongest Man stuff. In fact,
I lived in a mobile home with this guy for
quite some time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's a true story. I've had a long life. And
he would wake up every morning and he would make
a pound of bacon, a pound.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Not kidding, just drop the whole back in there and
eat the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
He was a strong man, big strong man guy, always training, lifting,
always doing that stuff. And because he did that, he
would train others, other dudes and ladies who wanted to
get big and strong and buff, maybe do competitions or
just get big. And so we had a lot of
time together again we lived in a mobile home together,
but a lot of time together. And he's telling me
(01:28):
all the time, and I'd ask about, you know, what
were the frustrations of the day. We're just gathering about things,
and he would say, my biggest frustration is you get
somebody in there, somebody motivated.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
He wants to maybe he's maybe he's flabby.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Maybe once turn himself around, or maybe he just he
once get big, once get strong. And he said, the
guy will show up and he'll just kill it, just
kill himself, work really hard, just lifting hard, sweating, and
he'll show up a couple of weeks, he'll do this
and then he'll look at himself in the mire. He
doesn't feel big and strong. He's not there. And he said,
(02:05):
my biggest frustration is getting through to these people that
getting big and strong and buff and strong man competitions
takes time. They want it now, and they're working hard
for it. They want it now, They're working hard. They
want to see the results. I want to be the
strong man. I want to be able to lift one
thousand pounds. Why can't I You got to get through
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to them that it takes time. You want the results, now,
you need the results.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now. I'm going to the beach next month. But results
don't come like that.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So let's have a chat about what's happening right now
in the United States Senate.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
In various ways.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Pete hag Seth is obviously something big for us here
on the show. We talk about it all the time,
how important it is that Pete hag Seth is confirmed
as Secretary of Defense for a variety of reasons. One
Pete hag Seth knows exactly what the men on the
ground go through. He has a great idea to remove
all the COMMI filth from the military.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's exactly what.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
We need and outside of the box thinking reformer type,
not the good old boy general admiral network. We know
he's sharp, we know he can get the job done.
We need to get Peek Pete hagg set through.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You want him through. I want Pete hagg set through.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
We're gonna reform it, We're gonna change things.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We have to understand something that sucks. But it's true
the old establishment GOP, specifically in the Senate. We'll talk
about the Senate for now. The establishment GOP. They do
not see themselves as being the vanguard of reform that's
coming to clean out the deep state and wipe all
(03:54):
these commies out there. That's not how they see themselves.
That's how you want them to see themselves. That's how
I want them to see themselves. That's how we want
all of our elected representatives to see themselves. We want
them to be our tip of the spear, go lead
us reform things.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But that's not how they see themselves. They see themselves
the Mitch McConnell's, John Cornyns, Jony Ernst, these Mike Rounds,
Sean Thune, the old establishment GOP guard.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
In the Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They see themselves completely the opposite.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You see you.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're a charging army, you got the spears out, you're
getting ready to attack, and you want to see them
in the front.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But they see themselves as being on the other side.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They see themselves as being the frontline of defense, slowing
you down from making real change. These people are highly,
highly invested in everything staying the same. Go go take
a look at Joony Ernst, Go take a look look
at her FEC report. You know you can do this.
(05:03):
You can be a journalist yourself. You realize that it's
free the FEC FEC dot go right here on your phone,
pull it up right there. You can look at all
those defense contractor donations to Jony Ernst. So Jony Ernst
went on Fox News and wouldn't commit to Pete.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Hegseth.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Why it doesn't sound on your answer that you've gotten
to a yes.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
If I'm wrong about that, correct me.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And if that is the case, it sounds to me
as if the hearing will be critical for his nomination.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Am I right about that?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I think I think you are right. I think for
a number of our senators they want to make sure
that any allegations have been cleared, and that's why we
have to have a very thorough vetting process. And that's
why I was happy to sit down with Pete and
have that conversation with him yesterday. So again, all I
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will say at this time is that we did have
a very thorough discussion over a number of those issues,
and the vetting will continue, I am certain, through the
next month or so until we approach that hearing date.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Okay, the ultimate politician non committal answer. I want to
make sure allegations have been clear. But that, of course
doesn't make any sense because all allegations have been cleared.
Any allegations they've dug up have been old, cleared, done gone.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
All allegations have been cleared.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So why would you give an answer like that because
she doesn't want to vote for Pete Hegseth. Why doesn't
she want to vote for Petegseth.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Maybe it's campaign donations. Maybe she's being blackmail. There's a
lot of that out there. But that's not just something
that happens in the movies on your little Netflix special.
That's real. That's how life works. These intelligence agencies, military
industrial complex, they will gather blackmail information on you and
use it against you. It's happened, really a million times
throughout history. Maybe it's I don't know, I don't know
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what the reasons are. But you Joni Earnst is sitting there,
senator from the red state of Iowa. You me, we
would think, Wow, she's gonna be tip of the spears.
She's leading the charge, right, Joni Ernst doesn't see herself
as leading the charge.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
She's on the other side.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
She sees herself her role as slowing the charge, and
speaking of the Senate, you know, look, it's not just
about hegset here. There's been a lot of talk and
a lot of excitement with me too. I'm pointing fingers
here about Elon Musk and Vivek taking over this Department
of Government efficiency and slashing the spending.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You know, that's something I'm hot on.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I've always been hot on on a long enough timeline.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's the only thing that matters.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
If we collapse financially, then nothing else is going to matter. Right,
So I've been all over that. Ye're all over that.
And we hear Elon Musk. He keeps buying companies like Twitter,
and he's firing eighty percent of the workforce and streamlining things.
And Vivek's gonna get in there, and we're excited, and yeah,
I'm gonna cut this and cut that and cut this.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And cut that.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I saw a report this morning the Senate GOP Senate
aids they're already scoffing at the very notion.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Of Vivek and Elon.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Ah, these guys think it's gonna be easy. Too bad,
we can't do this, So we can't do that we
can't do this and we won't be allowed to do that,
and you're not gonna do this, And Ba ba bad
Elon and Vivek are bouncing around Capitol Hill as we speak,
meeting with all these people trying to figure out how
to get things done. So this is a long, long
build up for me to say this to you, and
(08:30):
it's gonna sound discouraging, but it is not.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So just stay with me.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You're not gonna get big from lifting weights for two weeks.
We're not going to save the United States of America
because the people rallied and rose up and elected Donald
Trump as President of the United States of America. That
was a critical battle to win. And I'm glad we
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want it. We did good. You did good. We all
did good. We pitched in, we won. We told our
friends we did good. It was an important battle, but
it was one battle. There are so many more battles
ahead of us we have to win, and there are
so many important battles behind us that we lost that
(09:20):
we are still paying for and will pay for for
quite some time. Part of the reason you're not getting
big after two weeks of lifting heavy at the gym.
As you spent thirty five years eating donuts all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And yes, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Those decisions are being turned around, but you're still going.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
To pay a penalty for that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
We and the GOP are going to pay a penalty
for quite some time for being negligent about our red
state primaries. We have always lived in these save fred states,
those of.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Us who do.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Maybe you don't, but if you live in Texas, you
live in South Carolina, South Dakota, Iowa, any of the
places the animals aren't rampaging in the streets. Things are
fairly clean, your taxes are reasonable, and so we don't
get motivated when it comes time to primary. Jony Ernst,
if we even show up, you've probably voted for her. Well,
I mean I met her once and she was sweeping,
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kind of pretty. We've lost a thousand battles behind us,
and now the chickens have come home to roost, and
now we're all mad.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
They have to do.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
They don't, So what does that mean? That means we
focus on more battles. We don't quit, don't stop going
to the gym. That means we need some scalps. We
need to start taking some Senate scalps in the primaries
we do and don't think, well, there's too many, Jesse,
(10:48):
that's ten to fifteen rhinos.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Take one, Take one scalp.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Take out one of these GOP establishment types, one in
a red state primary, and see what happens to the
rest of them.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
These people are.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Constantly spitting in our faces and disrespecting us because we
haven't earned their respect.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
They're used to doing things we hate, and then once
every six years they spend fifty million dollars run some
ads on television about how tough they are on the
border and I love guns, and they know the GOP
primary voter will be too stupid and lazy to go
vote them out.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That is what we must change.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And if we do, if we take one scalp, the
others will sit up and be put on notice. Oh
I don't think I can make that vote. What if
they do to me what they just did to John Cornyn?
One scalp. Let's go get one. All that may have
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It's your first stop, not your last. Well, I've tried everything,
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Speaker 2 (12:31):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, we all know already about the Hunter Biden pardon,
and we've spoken.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Briefly about the the.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Rumors floating around DC about a preemptive pardon for people
like Liz Cheney, Fauci Adam Shift.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Kind of an interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Development to join joining me now to talk about that
and other things. Mike Ben's, executive director of the Foundation
for Freedom Online. Okay, Mike, First of all, I want
to talk about this backdated pardon because you are such
a wealth of information on this. Everyone by now realizes
it was backdated to start right before Hunter Biden started
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his work for Barisma in Ukraine, and what is staggering
to most people is how many of the Biden roads
lead to Ukraine, which is where we, of course are
spending a fortune to defend right now.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Talk about that, well, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The fact is is this is the most expansive pardon
as I understand it, in US history eleven years get
out of all crimes free card. You know, it's for
all crimes charged and uncharged, which means Hunter Biden could
have committed an active murder anytime in.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
The last eleven years in theory and can't be.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Charged for it.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
The fact is, you know, this starts in January twenty fourteen.
The coup in Ukraine kicked off in March twenty fourteen.
The counter coup where the eastern side of Ukraine broke away,
happened the following month. The month after that, Hunter Biden
joins the board of Barisma.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And then the fact is.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Barisma was being used as an instrument of state craft
by the US in order to pry Russia off of
the European gas market. The whole point of the company
in terms of why it was being backed by five
different federal capacities.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I mean, think about this right.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Barisma was being supported by USAID, okay. US eight is
supposed to be our humanitarian aid to nonprofit.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Organizations wink wink.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
And it's funding a for profit private sector company in Ukraine.
It's being supported by the State Department. The Hunter Bidens
law firm drew up a memo requesting help from the
State Department and pitching itself as a bulwark against Russian gas.
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You had the Pentagon and the State Department funding the
Atlantic Council.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
They fund over a million dollars each to the Atlantic Council.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
The Atlantic Council is over seven has seven ci A
directors on its board of Directors. The Land Council had
a formal deal, a cooperation agreement signed with Parisma on
January nineteenth, twenty seventeen, that is, one day before Trump
was inaugurated into term one.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Also, the Atlantic Council is NATO's think tank.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So you basically have NATO, the State Department, the Pentagon,
and USAID all backing Barisma. And then you had, you know,
obviously the murky role of the CIA itself, which is
something that I have been suggesting very loudly for a
very long time. Obviously, the CIA can't come out and
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say it, but the CIA waved the irs off off
of hunter Biden's sugar Daddy. The CIA has been assisting
the State Department with his long range plan to win
the energy market in Europe, or at least to prior
Russia off of it. Hunter Biden was on the chairman's
Advisory board of NDI, the National Democratic Institute, which is
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effectively the CI wing of the dnc oh And by
the way, remember the other board of director who was
sort of notorious who also joined Barisma that year was
co for Black Go for Black, who had spent thirty
years in the CIA when a CI Distinguished Medal award
it was Romney's shirpa to the intelligence community. Was on
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the board of directors of Barisma, right next to Hunter Biden.
And so you know, the issue is is the best
way to find all this stuff out is through prosecutions,
because prosecutions give you unfettered access to investigations, and it
was the prosecution is the only reason the CIA had
to step in to stop the investigation into Hunters financing sources.
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So what's the best way to shut down a prosecution
and therefore an investigation into the diplomatic octopus arm of
the US government's involvement in the.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
CD dealings of Barisma and in Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Well, you issue a blanket pardon to the Where's Waldo
figure who's running through all the different pages of this story,
so that you can't sick the Justice Department on an
investigation because now there's no underlying crime, because there's a
get out of all crimes free pass.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So you think Hunter Biden in this blanket pardon, do
you think they all the powers that be probably view
Hunter Biden as the choke point hatch that as long
as they seal it, the other compartments of the vessel
won't go down to the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That sounds like what you're saying to me.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I think definitely one of the main ones. I mean,
I think we're going to see James Biden and other
people who run through the you know, the Garrett and
Ziegler Marco Polo.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Picture book, a very colorful picture book. I should note.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I think that you may see other key figures from
that as well get blanket pardons, and I think that
those will receive far less media fanfare. But you know,
Hunter played a very very unique role, and I can
almost see why he turned to crack cocaine. This must
have been unbelievably stressful, all the things that he was
managing for the Biden for the Biden crime family. I mean,
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it was Ukraine, it was Mexico, it was China. And
you know this guy, remember he is one of Hunter's
clients in his consulting firm, was the head of Chinese intelligence.
And meanwhile, through the other side of the Biden family business,
he's trying to sell Chinese investors to purchase American LNG ports,
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you know, liquefied natural gas.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You know, he's he's.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
An equity investor and owns almost ten percent in this
you know, e Plata, this private micro financing company to
provide you know, to provide banking services for illegal immigrants
up coming up the border through Mexico, while his while
his father is keeping open the border and then issuing
a Justice department edict to threaten banks if they don't
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provide banking services for illegal immigrants. I mean, this guy
is must have been managing so many different crooked projects,
you know, so many different need to know special compartmentalized things.
What story to tell the family, what story to tell
the investors, what story to tell the government, What story
to tell the press? You know, it's it's almost enough
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to make you turn to drugs and hookers.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
League.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, let's let's switch gears here and talk about the
preemptive pardons for people like Fauci, Liz Chainey, Adam Shift.
Can you help me understand why that would be necessary?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I know they've done a bunch of things we don't like,
and to say they committed crimes would be obvious to me.
But have they committed crimes you think that they should
be pursued for?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What's this about?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Well, this Justice Department under Merrick Garland has been awfully
creative about finding crimes uh and stretching the you know,
straight stretching the limits of creativity to to find creative
ways to charge their political enemy. I mean, I think
everybody saw that right out the gate with the Douglas
(21:04):
Mackie case, where you know it.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Was trial by meme.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
You saw the unbelievable creativity to prosecute Trump himself.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
You saw the.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
KKK Act, the klu klux Klan Act is what was
invoked in order to prosecute Donald Trump. You had these
really creative concepts around deprivation of rights, basically arguing that,
you know, it's effectively a kind.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Of rico.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Rico crime to work together with multiple people to deprive
Americans of access to rights granted to them under the Constitution.
That is unbelievably broad when you swint and think about it.
If you have a malicious prosecutor who's willing to dip
into into that and not care about the institutional blowback
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in terms of the reputation of the Justice Department, you
could from Biden's perspective, I could see hundreds of crimes
with all those individuals that would you know fit that bill.
I mean, I mean think about when you're talking about Fauci.
I mean, we now have the Republican controlled Congress an
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official report saying their conclusion on the basis of a
year's long investigation is that COVID nineteen was created by
Tony Fauci. I mean so many words, right, I mean
think what they what they said is created. It was
a man made because of gain of function research that
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resulted in a lab leak from the Muhan Lab. Well,
everyone knows was the Wuhan Lab story runs through Ralph
Barrick and the h and the North Carolina Lab and
the USAID funding and the DARPA grants, and that that
sort of weaving from the Rocky Mountain Lab into North
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Carolina and then the partnerships that American universities and American
research centers doing this gain of government funded gain of
function research had with the Wuhan Lab. So the fact
is they said, you know, the official position of the
House of Representatives is Tony Fauci's gain of function research,
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which Tony Fauci remember Kerchard himself in Congress. Remember Tony
Fauci said, oh, we don't do GAINA fund. This was
this was the big fight between Rand Paul and Tony Fauci.
But just like James Clapper, when James Clapper lied about
bulk survey, not the NSA not doing bulk surveillance, and
nobody could call on it at the time because Edward
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Snowden hadn't yet leaked highly classified NSA documents. But then
once the league came out, James Clapper was not charged
with perjury. Well that's because of the politics of it.
Nobody wanted to take on the intelligence community at the
time or suffer the diplomatic blowback of disgracing a major
US intelligence official. I think there's Tony Fauci has had
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that cloak of protection force field to date.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
With an HHS run.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
By Bobby Kennedy, who I should note his best selling
book is called The Real Anthony Fauci, with Jay Bachari
at the NIH, you know, who is called a fringe
epidemiologist by Bauci and company, And with so much of
the base fired up about seeking justice or Fauci's potential
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crimes against humanity, that that force field may run out.
And frankly, a mere charge of perjury is a slap
on the wrist when you consider this year extent of
what he may actually be responsible for. But I think
a preemptive pardon is a sort of political way of
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saying Trump's going to weaponize the Justice Department, So I'm
going to protect this good man from the anticipated weaponization
while using that as cover to actually bury all his crimes.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Mike, Thank you, brother, as always appreciate it. All right,
let's talk about kids education. Cory DeAngelis is going to
join us in a moment before we do that. Let's
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Speaker 2 (26:28):
We'll be back. Education is still kind of important. Now,
what do we make.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Of the new education secretary? Where are we going? Are
we notching wins at a local level? Joining me out
to talk about all that. Corey DeAngelis, of course, author
of the book The Parent Revolution, guy who's been all
over this stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Okay, Corey.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
The momentum feels like since COVID, it's been with us.
But I don't want to go off of feels. What
are you seeing as you know all kinds of stuff
about this.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yeah, the teacher Genian's overplayed their hand with COVID, showed
conservatives what was happening in the classroom and revealed the
rot in the government school system. And now we have
twelve states with universal school choice, meaning all families can
take their kids taxpayer money to the school that works
best for them. And Trump won the parent vote by
nine points that represented a fifteen point shift towards the
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right on the issue of education since twenty twenty alone.
Trump also won with Latino men that represented a thirty
five point shift to the right. Catholics also went towards
Trump by about eighteen points, and Catholics tend to be
very strong. Just to abolish the Department of Education like
he has. He picked Linda McMahon. Let's get ready to rumble.
(27:48):
Let's get rid of that department and send the education
back to the states. We already have a bill in
Congress right now, while we have a couple one for
universal school choice. It's already made it out of committee
the Educational Choice for Children Act. But more recently, Senator
Mike Rounds out of South Dakota Republican, he put out
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a bill to do just that, to abolish the Department
of Education. It's to return education back to the states.
Some pieces of the department, including the Civil Rights Division,
would go to the Department of Justice, but it would
get rid of the Department of Education altogether. Have blought
grants go back to the individual states, and so it
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looks like we're having a great time on the education front.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Okay, Corey expand on Linda McMahon more. A lot of
people have heard the name, obviously familiar with the McMahon family.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But what can we expect from this.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I've heard things on both sides about people who are thrilled,
people who are mortified.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Tell us about this.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Well, I hope the teachers unions are mortified. Becky Pringle,
who's the head of the National Education Association, largest labor
union in the country, they actually have a federal charter
that started in nineteen oh six. It makes no sense.
It's the only labor union that has one. We should
revoke that federal charter of that union that ninety nine
percent of their money goes to the Democrats each election cycle.
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It's a money laundering operation. But Linda McMahon is a
supporter of school choice. She's said a lot of great
things in support of school choice. Trump, in his announcement
of the pick, pointed out that she's a strong supporter
of school choice. So I think the most likely thing
to happen as far as legislation is concerned, is that
Educational Choice for Children Act. It would supercharge the school
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choice revolution that's already happening in red states because the
Union's overplayed their hand. But it would also expand opportunities
in education to families who happen to live in blue
states too. It's not a federal program that's part of
the Department of Education. You can abolish the Department will
also have this federal tax credit. You get to keep
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more of your own money to use for kate the
twelve education expenses. Again, it already came out of committee.
Donald Trump recently on Fox and Friends said he would
sign the bill. And Republicans have a trifecta going into
twenty twenty five, So the GOP has become the parents' party.
Linda McMahon is a great pick to expand school choice
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and return education back to the states.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Corey, what can she do without a law, because obviously,
as you know, we have a five seat majority in
the House, very slim majority in the Senate, and most
of those are complete weenies. Let's just assume for the
sake of argument, we aren't going to get that wonderful
law through. She still has a great deal of authority, right.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, Well, when it comes to a ballist in the
Department of Education, she couldn't do that. She couldn't just
snap her fingers and pass the school choice bill either,
So that there are things that she needs to have
Congressional backing, including the Department being abolished. But she could
also go do some of the Devas era Title nine
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stuff to protect girl sports, for example. There are some
executive actions that she can take, but a lot of
the big ticket items do require Congress. And it's at
this point we need to hold Republicans accountable to their
own party platform. Elon Musk has talked about engaging in
the primaries. That is a very important thing to do
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to hold your own party accountable for standing up for
parental rights and education.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
This is true.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
In my home state of Texas too. We had a
lot of Rhinos who voted against school choice earlier this year.
They got annihilated in the primaries. Twenty one of them
voted against their own party platform in the Texas House.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Guess what.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Fourteen of them are gone, only seven of them are returning,
and two of those seven got the message. They already signed.
They signed a pledge to support, you know, versal school choice.
So sometimes you just have to get close enough. So
that's the way our government works. We need to have
the legislative bodies back to policies too, and the parents,
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the boots on the ground, need to hold their feet
to the fire to watch what they're doing, not just
what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Corey, you mentioned earlier that twelve states have already passed
these school choice bills, But even a light glance at
the map of this country shows we have a lot
more than just twelve red states. Why isn't this at
least every GOP state. I know California is not going
to do it right in the state's run by the teachers' union,
But why isn't every red state doing this?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
What's the hold up? Who's the holdup.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Yeah, Like in Texas you had Rhino's in the House
that we're signing with the teachers' unions and with the
status quo special interest and against their own party and
against more importantly, their constituents, the primary voters who's supports
school choice. But that is going away soon and it
already is starting because parents are paying attention now. They're
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a voting block that's more powerful than the government school
unions because they care about their kids more than anybody else,
certainly more than bureaucrats sitting in offices hundreds of miles away.
So I mean, we already knew the teacher junions owned
the Democratic Party. I mean Randy Winingarten's union. Every single
election cycle more than ninety eight percent of their campaign
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contributions go to Democrats, to money laundering operation. It ought
to be illegal, but in red states, the unions they're
dumb in a lot of ways, but they're smart politically
sometimes and that they know they're not going to get
a Democrat majority, so they play in Republican primaries pretty heavily,
sometimes behind the scenes. They did that this year in Texas,
(33:49):
where they were setting up a pack called Defend Rural
Texas that they were funding and through the back door
they were supporting these Republicans, but publicly they only endorsed Democrats.
They endorse seventy seven people in Texas and the legislative races.
But the unions because they knew that being affiliated with
Republicans at this point is damaging to them because of
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their other far left causes that they engage in, and
before it wasn't like that.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So that's it.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
This is good news that the unions are seeing that
their endorsement in some cases is the political kiss of
death for conservatives. That's making conservatives run away from them.
And at the end of the day, that pressure is
going to lead to full throated school choice in all
the red states. It's how it's already happening. And then
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in blue states it's going to become so damaging for
the left to oppose parents that they're either going to
lose like we saw with Terry mccauliffe in Virginia losing
to Glenn Youngkin on the education issue, or those and
those states might become red states that that could happen,
or they'll they'll have to start defecting on the issue
and start to have to listen to the kids Union,
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the parent as opposed to just the teachers union. And
this is all good news. It's we're not there yet.
We haven't reached utopia. We're not in it with ed.
We don't have education freedom everywhere. But we're winning the battle,
one day at a time.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
One day at a time. Keep going, brother, Appreciate you
very much. All right.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Abby Johnson is going to join us next talk about
this Supreme Court stuff, some pro life issues. Before we
talk to Abby Johnson, let's talk about how you feel
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Speaker 1 (36:30):
There's a big Supreme Court hearing yesterday and there were
some encouraging things said and some absolutely horrific things said.
But long story short, we have a long way to
go until we're a country where valuing the life of.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
A child is universal. I'll just put it to you
that way.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Joining me now, Doctor Abby Johnson, pro life advocate, probably
the leading pro life advocate in the country. Okay, Abby,
what did you make of the hearing? Obviously I heard
the crazy things that were said, but I was encouraged.
I think we're probably going to get a good ruling
out of all this.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
I think so. I think based on based on what
I heard, I think that we will. Of course, I mean,
you never know. I hate to I hate to completely
predict one way or another. You know, with Roberts on
the court, we we really never know. But I but
I am hoping that that we will get a favorable ruling.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Abby. Where are we at on the battle for the unborn?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Obviously I understand I'm frustrated by it, but I understand
the national GOP has really walked away from this and
I got it. Okay, fine, but the fight is not
necessarily national anymore. It's with the different states. Where are
we there?
Speaker 7 (37:49):
You know, we had a really I mean, I think
Florida uh in their Amendment eight. The success of of
of that was a huge boost to the pro life community.
And we did lose Missouri their Amendment three. But we
did have some successes, we had some losses. I think
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Florida's success was it was a victory for the nation
really because I think that you and I talked about
this before on the show. If Florida would have sunk,
I think that it would have given them the opportunity
to go after other conservative states like Texas, like Louisiana,
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like Alabama, Mississippi, all these southern states. I think because
there wasn't a failure there in Florida, I think it
really did take some momentum, some steam out of their sales.
So I think that that was a good thing. I
think that it is it has really de escalated the
(38:53):
momentum that they had after Ohio, after winning in Ohio.
I think that it has knocked them down a few pegs,
and I do think that we have a little bit
of an advantage right now after the election, especially since
Kamala Harris didn't win and she ran her entire platform
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on the fact that she wanted something similar to row
back on the books for this nation.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Abby, Why did we win in Florida? Because it had
been getting pretty.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Disheartening s you and I have talked about before. You're
looking at Ohio, you look at all these things. So
why did Florida turn out to be a victory for us?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
What did we do right there? What did they do wrong?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Florida.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Florida won and had a decisive victory because of the
leadership there, because of Governor Ron de Santis. You know,
Ohio lost because there was really no cohesive leadership. You
had many, many any different conservative and different pro life
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groups coming into the state doing their own thing, having
their own campaign campaigns, having completely different messaging, different pots
of money coming in. There was no cohesiveness, there was
no unity. Everybody was putting out a different message and
there was a lot of confusion. And that is why
(40:24):
the Ohiomanment lost the Florida Amendment one because you had
a leader in Ron DeSantis, and he basically said, all
of the groups that want to come in here in
Florida are going to have to stand behind me and
the message that we're giving out from the state. And
that was really that was why there was so much
I mean, it was an overwhelming success.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Gosh, that is freaking encouraging. What's the next battle? What
should we be looking for, Iby, what state is it?
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I think that they're going to kind of start in
the midway. So they've already taken Missouri, so I think
we're going to be looking at the Midwest, you know, Indiana, Iowa,
all of those states. I think they're going to be
going for for those, I mean the west coast, the
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left coast there. They've already you know, abortion is already
enshrine there, so and I think that they know that
the South is sort of off limits now since they're
since they lost in Florida. So I think that they're
going to be targeting, targeting the midwest.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Ivy, thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
All Right, we have light in the mood. Next, all right,
it is time to lighten the mood. And I don't
know if you've heard but I had broken my previous pen.
(41:59):
I was upset about it, and so I went on
a search to find a new pen, because there's nothing
more glorious than finding the perfect pen that has.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Everything a pen should have.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
And I found one and then I lost it. It's
more than just being able to click your pen right.
It's more than just having that smooth as silk writing. Honestly,
I'm writing right now and you can't even tell, as
I'm talking to you on the air, I'm also writing.
This kind of pen allows you to do both because
it's just silky smooth. It's more than that though. It's
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the weight. It can't be too light it feels cheap.
It can't be too heavy. I'm not bodybuilding here, I'm
writing things down. When you have a pen that's perfectly balanced,
it's just it puts you in a whole different category.
And that's what I have and Chris doesn't. And you
should see you should see how jealousy is a few
moments later down. But I have some some heavy news.
(43:01):
So that pen that I've been talking about, You know
how I was doing the clicking thing a lot. The
pen broke. I think it's still working. It's still functional.
But the little, the little thingy at the end that
I was clicking like that, it popped off and now
(43:24):
it won't stay in anymore. I don't I don't know
if this turned out to be a very good pen,
And now I wish I could take a lot of
the things I've said back, But either way, pen's gone.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
I don't want to borrow your pen, Chris, your pen sucks.
I'd rather have my broken pen then your crappy pen.
If you want more of that kind of stuff, go
subscribe to the YouTube channel. You can scan it on
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Jesse Kelly DC, I missed that pen.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
A zero
It's time to encourage you by bringing some reality about
reforms and how long they take.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We'll talk about that tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This has to do with hag Seth, the Department of
Government Efficiency. Mike Bens is here to tell us how
the deep state managed to lose this election. Corey DeAngelis
all that and more coming up, and I'm right all right,
(00:31):
So let's have a little heart to heart little chat,
shall we about reform and saving the country and the
Senate and Pete hag Seth and everything else. But before
we get to that, you know, I had a buddy
one time in the Marines, and he trained. He was
always training. He did the strong man competitions. Have you
(00:52):
ever seen those? The world's Strongest Man stuff. In fact,
I lived in a mobile home with this guy for
quite some time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's a true story. I've had a long life. And
he would wake up every morning and he would make
a pound of bacon, a pound.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Not kidding, just drop the whole back in there and
eat the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
He was a strong man, big strong man guy, always training, lifting,
always doing that stuff. And because he did that, he
would train others, other dudes and ladies who wanted to
get big and strong and buff, maybe do competitions or
just get big. And so we had a lot of
time together again we lived in a mobile home together,
but a lot of time together. And he's telling me
(01:28):
all the time, and I'd ask about, you know, what
were the frustrations of the day. We're just gathering about things,
and he would say, my biggest frustration is you get
somebody in there, somebody motivated.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
He wants to maybe he's maybe he's flabby.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Maybe once turn himself around, or maybe he just he
once get big, once get strong. And he said, the
guy will show up and he'll just kill it, just
kill himself, work really hard, just lifting hard, sweating, and
he'll show up a couple of weeks, he'll do this
and then he'll look at himself in the mire. He
doesn't feel big and strong. He's not there. And he said,
(02:05):
my biggest frustration is getting through to these people that
getting big and strong and buff and strong man competitions
takes time. They want it now, and they're working hard
for it. They want it now, They're working hard. They
want to see the results. I want to be the
strong man. I want to be able to lift one
thousand pounds. Why can't I You got to get through
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to them that it takes time. You want the results, now,
you need the results.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now. I'm going to the beach next month. But results
don't come like that.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So let's have a chat about what's happening right now
in the United States Senate.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
In various ways.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Pete hag Seth is obviously something big for us here
on the show. We talk about it all the time,
how important it is that Pete hag Seth is confirmed
as Secretary of Defense for a variety of reasons. One
Pete hag Seth knows exactly what the men on the
ground go through. He has a great idea to remove
all the COMMI filth from the military.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's exactly what.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
We need and outside of the box thinking reformer type,
not the good old boy general admiral network. We know
he's sharp, we know he can get the job done.
We need to get Peek Pete hagg set through.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You want him through. I want Pete hagg set through.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
We're gonna reform it, We're gonna change things.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We have to understand something that sucks. But it's true
the old establishment GOP, specifically in the Senate. We'll talk
about the Senate for now. The establishment GOP. They do
not see themselves as being the vanguard of reform that's
coming to clean out the deep state and wipe all
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these commies out there. That's not how they see themselves.
That's how you want them to see themselves. That's how
I want them to see themselves. That's how we want
all of our elected representatives to see themselves. We want
them to be our tip of the spear, go lead
us reform things.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But that's not how they see themselves. They see themselves
the Mitch McConnell's, John Cornyns, Jony Ernst, these Mike Rounds,
Sean Thune, the old establishment GOP guard.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
In the Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They see themselves completely the opposite.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You see you.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're a charging army, you got the spears out, you're
getting ready to attack, and you want to see them
in the front.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But they see themselves as being on the other side.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They see themselves as being the frontline of defense, slowing
you down from making real change. These people are highly,
highly invested in everything staying the same. Go go take
a look at Joony Ernst, Go take a look look
at her FEC report. You know you can do this.
(05:03):
You can be a journalist yourself. You realize that it's
free the FEC FEC dot go right here on your phone,
pull it up right there. You can look at all
those defense contractor donations to Jony Ernst. So Jony Ernst
went on Fox News and wouldn't commit to Pete.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Hegseth.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Why it doesn't sound on your answer that you've gotten
to a yes.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
If I'm wrong about that, correct me.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And if that is the case, it sounds to me
as if the hearing will be critical for his nomination.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Am I right about that?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I think I think you are right. I think for
a number of our senators they want to make sure
that any allegations have been cleared, and that's why we
have to have a very thorough vetting process. And that's
why I was happy to sit down with Pete and
have that conversation with him yesterday. So again, all I
(05:57):
will say at this time is that we did have
a very thorough discussion over a number of those issues,
and the vetting will continue, I am certain, through the
next month or so until we approach that hearing date.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Okay, the ultimate politician non committal answer. I want to
make sure allegations have been clear. But that, of course
doesn't make any sense because all allegations have been cleared.
Any allegations they've dug up have been old, cleared, done gone.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
All allegations have been cleared.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So why would you give an answer like that because
she doesn't want to vote for Pete Hegseth. Why doesn't
she want to vote for Petegseth.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Maybe it's campaign donations. Maybe she's being blackmail. There's a
lot of that out there. But that's not just something
that happens in the movies on your little Netflix special.
That's real. That's how life works. These intelligence agencies, military
industrial complex, they will gather blackmail information on you and
use it against you. It's happened, really a million times
throughout history. Maybe it's I don't know, I don't know
(06:54):
what the reasons are. But you Joni Earnst is sitting there,
senator from the red state of Iowa. You me, we
would think, Wow, she's gonna be tip of the spears.
She's leading the charge, right, Joni Ernst doesn't see herself
as leading the charge.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
She's on the other side.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
She sees herself her role as slowing the charge, and
speaking of the Senate, you know, look, it's not just
about hegset here. There's been a lot of talk and
a lot of excitement with me too. I'm pointing fingers
here about Elon Musk and Vivek taking over this Department
of Government efficiency and slashing the spending.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You know, that's something I'm hot on.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I've always been hot on on a long enough timeline.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's the only thing that matters.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
If we collapse financially, then nothing else is going to matter. Right,
So I've been all over that. Ye're all over that.
And we hear Elon Musk. He keeps buying companies like Twitter,
and he's firing eighty percent of the workforce and streamlining things.
And Vivek's gonna get in there, and we're excited, and yeah,
I'm gonna cut this and cut that and cut this.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And cut that.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I saw a report this morning the Senate GOP Senate
aids they're already scoffing at the very notion.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Of Vivek and Elon.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Ah, these guys think it's gonna be easy. Too bad,
we can't do this, So we can't do that we
can't do this and we won't be allowed to do that,
and you're not gonna do this, And Ba ba bad
Elon and Vivek are bouncing around Capitol Hill as we speak,
meeting with all these people trying to figure out how
to get things done. So this is a long, long
build up for me to say this to you, and
(08:30):
it's gonna sound discouraging, but it is not.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So just stay with me.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You're not gonna get big from lifting weights for two weeks.
We're not going to save the United States of America
because the people rallied and rose up and elected Donald
Trump as President of the United States of America. That
was a critical battle to win. And I'm glad we
(08:57):
want it. We did good. You did good. We all
did good. We pitched in, we won. We told our
friends we did good. It was an important battle, but
it was one battle. There are so many more battles
ahead of us we have to win, and there are
so many important battles behind us that we lost that
(09:20):
we are still paying for and will pay for for
quite some time. Part of the reason you're not getting
big after two weeks of lifting heavy at the gym.
As you spent thirty five years eating donuts all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And yes, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Those decisions are being turned around, but you're still going.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
To pay a penalty for that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
We and the GOP are going to pay a penalty
for quite some time for being negligent about our red
state primaries. We have always lived in these save fred states,
those of.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Us who do.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Maybe you don't, but if you live in Texas, you
live in South Carolina, South Dakota, Iowa, any of the
places the animals aren't rampaging in the streets. Things are
fairly clean, your taxes are reasonable, and so we don't
get motivated when it comes time to primary. Jony Ernst,
if we even show up, you've probably voted for her. Well,
I mean I met her once and she was sweeping,
(10:16):
kind of pretty. We've lost a thousand battles behind us,
and now the chickens have come home to roost, and
now we're all mad.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
They have to do.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
They don't, So what does that mean? That means we
focus on more battles. We don't quit, don't stop going
to the gym. That means we need some scalps. We
need to start taking some Senate scalps in the primaries
we do and don't think, well, there's too many, Jesse,
(10:48):
that's ten to fifteen rhinos.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Take one, Take one scalp.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Take out one of these GOP establishment types, one in
a red state primary, and see what happens to the
rest of them.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
These people are.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Constantly spitting in our faces and disrespecting us because we
haven't earned their respect.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
They're used to doing things we hate, and then once
every six years they spend fifty million dollars run some
ads on television about how tough they are on the
border and I love guns, and they know the GOP
primary voter will be too stupid and lazy to go
vote them out.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That is what we must change.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And if we do, if we take one scalp, the
others will sit up and be put on notice. Oh
I don't think I can make that vote. What if
they do to me what they just did to John Cornyn?
One scalp. Let's go get one. All that may have
made you uncomfortable, but I am right. If it made
(11:50):
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Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, we all know already about the Hunter Biden pardon,
and we've spoken.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Briefly about the the.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Rumors floating around DC about a preemptive pardon for people
like Liz Cheney, Fauci Adam Shift.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Kind of an interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Development to join joining me now to talk about that
and other things. Mike Ben's, executive director of the Foundation
for Freedom Online. Okay, Mike, First of all, I want
to talk about this backdated pardon because you are such
a wealth of information on this. Everyone by now realizes
it was backdated to start right before Hunter Biden started
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his work for Barisma in Ukraine, and what is staggering
to most people is how many of the Biden roads
lead to Ukraine, which is where we, of course are
spending a fortune to defend right now.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Talk about that, well, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The fact is is this is the most expansive pardon
as I understand it, in US history eleven years get
out of all crimes free card. You know, it's for
all crimes charged and uncharged, which means Hunter Biden could
have committed an active murder anytime in.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
The last eleven years in theory and can't be.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Charged for it.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
The fact is, you know, this starts in January twenty fourteen.
The coup in Ukraine kicked off in March twenty fourteen.
The counter coup where the eastern side of Ukraine broke away,
happened the following month. The month after that, Hunter Biden
joins the board of Barisma.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And then the fact is.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Barisma was being used as an instrument of state craft
by the US in order to pry Russia off of
the European gas market. The whole point of the company
in terms of why it was being backed by five
different federal capacities.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I mean, think about this right.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Barisma was being supported by USAID, okay. US eight is
supposed to be our humanitarian aid to nonprofit.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Organizations wink wink.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
And it's funding a for profit private sector company in Ukraine.
It's being supported by the State Department. The Hunter Bidens
law firm drew up a memo requesting help from the
State Department and pitching itself as a bulwark against Russian gas.
(15:17):
You had the Pentagon and the State Department funding the
Atlantic Council.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
They fund over a million dollars each to the Atlantic Council.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
The Atlantic Council is over seven has seven ci A
directors on its board of Directors. The Land Council had
a formal deal, a cooperation agreement signed with Parisma on
January nineteenth, twenty seventeen, that is, one day before Trump
was inaugurated into term one.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Also, the Atlantic Council is NATO's think tank.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So you basically have NATO, the State Department, the Pentagon,
and USAID all backing Barisma. And then you had, you know,
obviously the murky role of the CIA itself, which is
something that I have been suggesting very loudly for a
very long time. Obviously, the CIA can't come out and
(16:10):
say it, but the CIA waved the irs off off
of hunter Biden's sugar Daddy. The CIA has been assisting
the State Department with his long range plan to win
the energy market in Europe, or at least to prior
Russia off of it. Hunter Biden was on the chairman's
Advisory board of NDI, the National Democratic Institute, which is
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effectively the CI wing of the dnc oh And by
the way, remember the other board of director who was
sort of notorious who also joined Barisma that year was
co for Black Go for Black, who had spent thirty
years in the CIA when a CI Distinguished Medal award
it was Romney's shirpa to the intelligence community. Was on
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the board of directors of Barisma, right next to Hunter Biden.
And so you know, the issue is is the best
way to find all this stuff out is through prosecutions,
because prosecutions give you unfettered access to investigations, and it
was the prosecution is the only reason the CIA had
to step in to stop the investigation into Hunters financing sources.
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So what's the best way to shut down a prosecution
and therefore an investigation into the diplomatic octopus arm of
the US government's involvement in the.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
CD dealings of Barisma and in Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Well, you issue a blanket pardon to the Where's Waldo
figure who's running through all the different pages of this story,
so that you can't sick the Justice Department on an
investigation because now there's no underlying crime, because there's a
get out of all crimes free pass.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So you think Hunter Biden in this blanket pardon, do
you think they all the powers that be probably view
Hunter Biden as the choke point hatch that as long
as they seal it, the other compartments of the vessel
won't go down to the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That sounds like what you're saying to me.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I think definitely one of the main ones. I mean,
I think we're going to see James Biden and other
people who run through the you know, the Garrett and
Ziegler Marco Polo.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Picture book, a very colorful picture book. I should note.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I think that you may see other key figures from
that as well get blanket pardons, and I think that
those will receive far less media fanfare. But you know,
Hunter played a very very unique role, and I can
almost see why he turned to crack cocaine. This must
have been unbelievably stressful, all the things that he was
managing for the Biden for the Biden crime family. I mean,
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it was Ukraine, it was Mexico, it was China. And
you know this guy, remember he is one of Hunter's
clients in his consulting firm, was the head of Chinese intelligence.
And meanwhile, through the other side of the Biden family business,
he's trying to sell Chinese investors to purchase American LNG ports,
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you know, liquefied natural gas.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You know, he's he's.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
An equity investor and owns almost ten percent in this
you know, e Plata, this private micro financing company to
provide you know, to provide banking services for illegal immigrants
up coming up the border through Mexico, while his while
his father is keeping open the border and then issuing
a Justice department edict to threaten banks if they don't
(19:46):
provide banking services for illegal immigrants. I mean, this guy
is must have been managing so many different crooked projects,
you know, so many different need to know special compartmentalized things.
What story to tell the family, what story to tell
the investors, what story to tell the government, What story
to tell the press? You know, it's it's almost enough
(20:10):
to make you turn to drugs and hookers.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
League.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, let's let's switch gears here and talk about the
preemptive pardons for people like Fauci, Liz Chainey, Adam Shift.
Can you help me understand why that would be necessary?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I know they've done a bunch of things we don't like,
and to say they committed crimes would be obvious to me.
But have they committed crimes you think that they should
be pursued for?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What's this about?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Well, this Justice Department under Merrick Garland has been awfully
creative about finding crimes uh and stretching the you know,
straight stretching the limits of creativity to to find creative
ways to charge their political enemy. I mean, I think
everybody saw that right out the gate with the Douglas
(21:04):
Mackie case, where you know it.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Was trial by meme.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
You saw the unbelievable creativity to prosecute Trump himself.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
You saw the.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
KKK Act, the klu klux Klan Act is what was
invoked in order to prosecute Donald Trump. You had these
really creative concepts around deprivation of rights, basically arguing that,
you know, it's effectively a kind.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Of rico.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Rico crime to work together with multiple people to deprive
Americans of access to rights granted to them under the Constitution.
That is unbelievably broad when you swint and think about it.
If you have a malicious prosecutor who's willing to dip
into into that and not care about the institutional blowback
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in terms of the reputation of the Justice Department, you
could from Biden's perspective, I could see hundreds of crimes
with all those individuals that would you know fit that bill.
I mean, I mean think about when you're talking about Fauci.
I mean, we now have the Republican controlled Congress an
(22:30):
official report saying their conclusion on the basis of a
year's long investigation is that COVID nineteen was created by
Tony Fauci. I mean so many words, right, I mean
think what they what they said is created. It was
a man made because of gain of function research that
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resulted in a lab leak from the Muhan Lab. Well,
everyone knows was the Wuhan Lab story runs through Ralph
Barrick and the h and the North Carolina Lab and
the USAID funding and the DARPA grants, and that that
sort of weaving from the Rocky Mountain Lab into North
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Carolina and then the partnerships that American universities and American
research centers doing this gain of government funded gain of
function research had with the Wuhan Lab. So the fact
is they said, you know, the official position of the
House of Representatives is Tony Fauci's gain of function research,
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which Tony Fauci remember Kerchard himself in Congress. Remember Tony
Fauci said, oh, we don't do GAINA fund. This was
this was the big fight between Rand Paul and Tony Fauci.
But just like James Clapper, when James Clapper lied about
bulk survey, not the NSA not doing bulk surveillance, and
nobody could call on it at the time because Edward
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Snowden hadn't yet leaked highly classified NSA documents. But then
once the league came out, James Clapper was not charged
with perjury. Well that's because of the politics of it.
Nobody wanted to take on the intelligence community at the
time or suffer the diplomatic blowback of disgracing a major
US intelligence official. I think there's Tony Fauci has had
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that cloak of protection force field to date.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
With an HHS run.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
By Bobby Kennedy, who I should note his best selling
book is called The Real Anthony Fauci, with Jay Bachari
at the NIH, you know, who is called a fringe
epidemiologist by Bauci and company, And with so much of
the base fired up about seeking justice or Fauci's potential
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crimes against humanity, that that force field may run out.
And frankly, a mere charge of perjury is a slap
on the wrist when you consider this year extent of
what he may actually be responsible for. But I think
a preemptive pardon is a sort of political way of
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saying Trump's going to weaponize the Justice Department, So I'm
going to protect this good man from the anticipated weaponization
while using that as cover to actually bury all his crimes.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Mike, Thank you, brother, as always appreciate it. All right,
let's talk about kids education. Cory DeAngelis is going to
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We'll be back. Education is still kind of important. Now,
what do we make.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Of the new education secretary? Where are we going? Are
we notching wins at a local level? Joining me out
to talk about all that. Corey DeAngelis, of course, author
of the book The Parent Revolution, guy who's been all
over this stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Okay, Corey.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
The momentum feels like since COVID, it's been with us.
But I don't want to go off of feels. What
are you seeing as you know all kinds of stuff
about this.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yeah, the teacher Genian's overplayed their hand with COVID, showed
conservatives what was happening in the classroom and revealed the
rot in the government school system. And now we have
twelve states with universal school choice, meaning all families can
take their kids taxpayer money to the school that works
best for them. And Trump won the parent vote by
nine points that represented a fifteen point shift towards the
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right on the issue of education since twenty twenty alone.
Trump also won with Latino men that represented a thirty
five point shift to the right. Catholics also went towards
Trump by about eighteen points, and Catholics tend to be
very strong. Just to abolish the Department of Education like
he has. He picked Linda McMahon. Let's get ready to rumble.
(27:48):
Let's get rid of that department and send the education
back to the states. We already have a bill in
Congress right now, while we have a couple one for
universal school choice. It's already made it out of committee
the Educational Choice for Children Act. But more recently, Senator
Mike Rounds out of South Dakota Republican, he put out
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a bill to do just that, to abolish the Department
of Education. It's to return education back to the states.
Some pieces of the department, including the Civil Rights Division,
would go to the Department of Justice, but it would
get rid of the Department of Education altogether. Have blought
grants go back to the individual states, and so it
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looks like we're having a great time on the education front.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Okay, Corey expand on Linda McMahon more. A lot of
people have heard the name, obviously familiar with the McMahon family.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But what can we expect from this.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I've heard things on both sides about people who are thrilled,
people who are mortified.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Tell us about this.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Well, I hope the teachers unions are mortified. Becky Pringle,
who's the head of the National Education Association, largest labor
union in the country, they actually have a federal charter
that started in nineteen oh six. It makes no sense.
It's the only labor union that has one. We should
revoke that federal charter of that union that ninety nine
percent of their money goes to the Democrats each election cycle.
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It's a money laundering operation. But Linda McMahon is a
supporter of school choice. She's said a lot of great
things in support of school choice. Trump, in his announcement
of the pick, pointed out that she's a strong supporter
of school choice. So I think the most likely thing
to happen as far as legislation is concerned, is that
Educational Choice for Children Act. It would supercharge the school
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choice revolution that's already happening in red states because the
Union's overplayed their hand. But it would also expand opportunities
in education to families who happen to live in blue
states too. It's not a federal program that's part of
the Department of Education. You can abolish the Department will
also have this federal tax credit. You get to keep
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more of your own money to use for kate the
twelve education expenses. Again, it already came out of committee.
Donald Trump recently on Fox and Friends said he would
sign the bill. And Republicans have a trifecta going into
twenty twenty five, So the GOP has become the parents' party.
Linda McMahon is a great pick to expand school choice
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and return education back to the states.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Corey, what can she do without a law, because obviously,
as you know, we have a five seat majority in
the House, very slim majority in the Senate, and most
of those are complete weenies. Let's just assume for the
sake of argument, we aren't going to get that wonderful
law through. She still has a great deal of authority, right.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, Well, when it comes to a ballist in the
Department of Education, she couldn't do that. She couldn't just
snap her fingers and pass the school choice bill either,
So that there are things that she needs to have
Congressional backing, including the Department being abolished. But she could
also go do some of the Devas era Title nine
(31:10):
stuff to protect girl sports, for example. There are some
executive actions that she can take, but a lot of
the big ticket items do require Congress. And it's at
this point we need to hold Republicans accountable to their
own party platform. Elon Musk has talked about engaging in
the primaries. That is a very important thing to do
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to hold your own party accountable for standing up for
parental rights and education.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
This is true.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
In my home state of Texas too. We had a
lot of Rhinos who voted against school choice earlier this year.
They got annihilated in the primaries. Twenty one of them
voted against their own party platform in the Texas House.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Guess what.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Fourteen of them are gone, only seven of them are returning,
and two of those seven got the message. They already signed.
They signed a pledge to support, you know, versal school choice.
So sometimes you just have to get close enough. So
that's the way our government works. We need to have
the legislative bodies back to policies too, and the parents,
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the boots on the ground, need to hold their feet
to the fire to watch what they're doing, not just
what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Corey, you mentioned earlier that twelve states have already passed
these school choice bills, But even a light glance at
the map of this country shows we have a lot
more than just twelve red states. Why isn't this at
least every GOP state. I know California is not going
to do it right in the state's run by the teachers' union,
But why isn't every red state doing this?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
What's the hold up? Who's the holdup.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Yeah, Like in Texas you had Rhino's in the House
that we're signing with the teachers' unions and with the
status quo special interest and against their own party and
against more importantly, their constituents, the primary voters who's supports
school choice. But that is going away soon and it
already is starting because parents are paying attention now. They're
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a voting block that's more powerful than the government school
unions because they care about their kids more than anybody else,
certainly more than bureaucrats sitting in offices hundreds of miles away.
So I mean, we already knew the teacher junions owned
the Democratic Party. I mean Randy Winingarten's union. Every single
election cycle more than ninety eight percent of their campaign
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contributions go to Democrats, to money laundering operation. It ought
to be illegal, but in red states, the unions they're
dumb in a lot of ways, but they're smart politically
sometimes and that they know they're not going to get
a Democrat majority, so they play in Republican primaries pretty heavily,
sometimes behind the scenes. They did that this year in Texas,
(33:49):
where they were setting up a pack called Defend Rural
Texas that they were funding and through the back door
they were supporting these Republicans, but publicly they only endorsed Democrats.
They endorse seventy seven people in Texas and the legislative races.
But the unions because they knew that being affiliated with
Republicans at this point is damaging to them because of
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their other far left causes that they engage in, and
before it wasn't like that.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So that's it.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
This is good news that the unions are seeing that
their endorsement in some cases is the political kiss of
death for conservatives. That's making conservatives run away from them.
And at the end of the day, that pressure is
going to lead to full throated school choice in all
the red states. It's how it's already happening. And then
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in blue states it's going to become so damaging for
the left to oppose parents that they're either going to
lose like we saw with Terry mccauliffe in Virginia losing
to Glenn Youngkin on the education issue, or those and
those states might become red states that that could happen,
or they'll they'll have to start defecting on the issue
and start to have to listen to the kids Union,
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the parent as opposed to just the teachers union. And
this is all good news. It's we're not there yet.
We haven't reached utopia. We're not in it with ed.
We don't have education freedom everywhere. But we're winning the battle,
one day at a time.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
One day at a time. Keep going, brother, Appreciate you
very much. All right.
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Speaker 1 (36:30):
There's a big Supreme Court hearing yesterday and there were
some encouraging things said and some absolutely horrific things said.
But long story short, we have a long way to
go until we're a country where valuing the life of.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
A child is universal. I'll just put it to you
that way.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Joining me now, Doctor Abby Johnson, pro life advocate, probably
the leading pro life advocate in the country. Okay, Abby,
what did you make of the hearing? Obviously I heard
the crazy things that were said, but I was encouraged.
I think we're probably going to get a good ruling
out of all this.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
I think so. I think based on based on what
I heard, I think that we will. Of course, I mean,
you never know. I hate to I hate to completely
predict one way or another. You know, with Roberts on
the court, we we really never know. But I but
I am hoping that that we will get a favorable ruling.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Abby. Where are we at on the battle for the unborn?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Obviously I understand I'm frustrated by it, but I understand
the national GOP has really walked away from this and
I got it. Okay, fine, but the fight is not
necessarily national anymore. It's with the different states. Where are
we there?
Speaker 7 (37:49):
You know, we had a really I mean, I think
Florida uh in their Amendment eight. The success of of
of that was a huge boost to the pro life community.
And we did lose Missouri their Amendment three. But we
did have some successes, we had some losses. I think
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Florida's success was it was a victory for the nation
really because I think that you and I talked about
this before on the show. If Florida would have sunk,
I think that it would have given them the opportunity
to go after other conservative states like Texas, like Louisiana,
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like Alabama, Mississippi, all these southern states. I think because
there wasn't a failure there in Florida, I think it
really did take some momentum, some steam out of their sales.
So I think that that was a good thing. I
think that it is it has really de escalated the
(38:53):
momentum that they had after Ohio, after winning in Ohio.
I think that it has knocked them down a few pegs,
and I do think that we have a little bit
of an advantage right now after the election, especially since
Kamala Harris didn't win and she ran her entire platform
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on the fact that she wanted something similar to row
back on the books for this nation.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Abby, Why did we win in Florida? Because it had
been getting pretty.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Disheartening s you and I have talked about before. You're
looking at Ohio, you look at all these things. So
why did Florida turn out to be a victory for us?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
What did we do right there? What did they do wrong?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Florida.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Florida won and had a decisive victory because of the
leadership there, because of Governor Ron de Santis. You know,
Ohio lost because there was really no cohesive leadership. You
had many, many any different conservative and different pro life
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groups coming into the state doing their own thing, having
their own campaign campaigns, having completely different messaging, different pots
of money coming in. There was no cohesiveness, there was
no unity. Everybody was putting out a different message and
there was a lot of confusion. And that is why
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the Ohiomanment lost the Florida Amendment one because you had
a leader in Ron DeSantis, and he basically said, all
of the groups that want to come in here in
Florida are going to have to stand behind me and
the message that we're giving out from the state. And
that was really that was why there was so much
I mean, it was an overwhelming success.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Gosh, that is freaking encouraging. What's the next battle? What
should we be looking for, Iby, what state is it?
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I think that they're going to kind of start in
the midway. So they've already taken Missouri, so I think
we're going to be looking at the Midwest, you know, Indiana, Iowa,
all of those states. I think they're going to be
going for for those, I mean the west coast, the
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left coast there. They've already you know, abortion is already
enshrine there, so and I think that they know that
the South is sort of off limits now since they're
since they lost in Florida. So I think that they're
going to be targeting, targeting the midwest.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Ivy, thank you so much. I appreciate you.
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the weight. It can't be too light it feels cheap.
It can't be too heavy. I'm not bodybuilding here, I'm
writing things down. When you have a pen that's perfectly balanced,
it's just it puts you in a whole different category.
And that's what I have and Chris doesn't. And you
should see you should see how jealousy is a few
moments later down. But I have some some heavy news.
(43:01):
So that pen that I've been talking about, You know
how I was doing the clicking thing a lot. The
pen broke. I think it's still working. It's still functional.
But the little, the little thingy at the end that
I was clicking like that, it popped off and now
(43:24):
it won't stay in anymore. I don't I don't know
if this turned out to be a very good pen,
And now I wish I could take a lot of
the things I've said back, But either way, pen's gone.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
I don't want to borrow your pen, Chris, your pen sucks.
I'd rather have my broken pen then your crappy pen.
If you want more of that kind of stuff, go
subscribe to the YouTube channel. You can scan it on
your phone there. It's free YouTube dot com. Slash at
Jesse Kelly DC, I missed that pen.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
A zero
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