March 27, 2025 • 45 mins
Republicans just lost a key election in a critical swing state, but all is not lost. Jesse Kelly reflects and goes over the future with Ryan Girdusky. This comes as President Trump has signed a series of executive orders, including one that declassifies documents surrounding a big case. Jesse gets analysis from Hans Mahncke on this. Plus, a deep dive into the budget battle taking place in the House and Senate from Senator Ron Johnson.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
We need to focus and we're not focused. We're gonna
talk about that. To open up the show tonight, We're
gonna talk about the declassification of the crossfire hurricane documents.
Maybe a heavy talk about the budget coming all that
and more coming up when I'm right.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Let's talk. Let's have a Daddy Jesse talk.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Pull up a chair, let's talk, because something bad just
happened yesterday and we need to address it before I
get to the bad. I know this isn't about the
signal chat stuff and things like that. We're moving off
of that before I get to the bad. Have you
ever known anybody who struggles with addiction of some kind?
(00:49):
Maybe it's drugs or alcohol or something like that. So
let's make it about alcoholics. That's a common struggle. Maybe
it's something you struggle with. By the way, keep struggling,
you will overcome anyway. Maybe that's a struggle you are
aware of. Let's say somebody's been drinking a fifth of
whiskey every day for twenty years. All right, it's bad,
(01:09):
and they decide they want to clean it up, all right, and.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They go.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
One day without a fifth of whiskey. Maybe it's even
a Friday. Friday night, that'd be the night where they
really go crazy and they decide, I want to clean.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Up my life.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm not having any today, and they skip that day.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Then they go back and have another one on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, so let's discuss this because this is going to
be about us in elections. Did that one day? Did
it mean nothing?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's a great thing. And if that's you, if you've
done something like this, be.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Proud of yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's not easy to break the cycle and take a
day off. That's a good thing. But did that one
day solve your alcohol problem? No, of course not. You
won one battle in a million battles, and you have
(02:12):
got to stay focused and win a lot more.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We the United States of.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
America, we went out in November and we rejected American communism,
the American people, not just you and me, not just
the politically involved, the American people. We watched in horror
as the Biden administration tore this country apart every way
they could in the American people. And I'm proud of
(02:38):
us for that. We went out in one election and
said no more enough, and the results were overwhelming. County
after county, every County went to the right. Everybody, everyone said,
I've had enough with this garbage.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Enough. And I was very.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Proud of us, and I remain very proud of us
for that day. For a day, we did good and
we should be proud of it. However, as I had said,
I've said a million times this. I said it before
the election, I've said it since the election. I will
say it till the day they kicked me off the air.
Saving a country or losing a country, it is not
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an event. There's not a super Bowl, there's not a
one time thing. It's a process. It's not an event.
It's a process. A presidential election. Yes, it's critically important,
just like that Friday when you skip the whiskey.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It did not fix everything by a mile.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I say this because well, Trump signed an executive
order yesterday and everyone's making a big deal of it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Here it was.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
We believe that this executive order is the farthest reaching
executive action taken in the history of the Republic to
secure our elections. Among numerous other aspects of this executive order,
this is going to down on illegal immigrants on the
voter rolls ensure that the Department of Homeland Security and
the data that they have available is being fully weaponized
(04:07):
to ensure that illegal immigrants aren't voting. This will include
a citizenship question on the federal voting form for the
first time. This executive order instructs the EAC to cut
federal funding to states that don't take reasonable steps to
secure their election. This calls on the Department of Justice
to vigorously prosecute election crimes, particularly in states that we
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don't believe are in compliance with federal law around election integrity.
I could go on and on for a while, sir,
but compliance with national Election Day rules, cracking down and
investigating and prosecuting foreign interference in our elections, Revoking President
Biden's Executive Order fourteen one point nine, which essentially weaponized
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government to corrupt and pollute our election process. There's a
lot in here, but we believe that these are very
important steps that we need to be taking as an administration.
Your direction to ensure that our elections are as secure
as they possibly can be.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I see a lot of yeah, don't trump whoo.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, we're going to secure our elections. Why don't we
show up and vote for them? Then? We just we
had a huge election.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Wasn't sexy, but a huge election in Pennsylvania for the
state house. It wasn't for national but Pennsylvania the critical
swing state. The laws, the things they pass in Pennsylvania
will undoubtedly affect whether or not we can win presidential
elections and things like that. A critical special election, special
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election in a district Trump won by sixteen points in November,
and the results of this special election were to decide
did decide who would control the Pennsylvania legislature.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You realize that those were the.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Of the game, and this was a gimme for us
plus sixteen Trump district.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Surely we got that in the bag. Right.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
We lost, didn't even show up. I think we lost
by less than five hundred votes last time I looked.
I know there's still some moving, some numbers around, but
less than five hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Votes we lost. Oh, I know, I know. We elected
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And it is human nature when you get a win
like that, especially when it's for the office of the presidency,
it's human nature to sit back and go, oh, finally,
I'm glad we saved this place. Anyway, March madness is on.
I get it, I get it. But if that is
going to be our attitude, we're going to lose this country.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You can't save the country by only showing up to
vote when Donald Trump was on the ballot. We cannot
continue to dust off our maga hats once every four
years and show up when Trump's running for president and
save the United States of America. The American communist doesn't
do that. The American Communist.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I'll tell you a little story here before I let
you go, so we have a huge show for you tonight.
I have told you the story maybe before. But I
have a bunch of former communists who watched us here
on I'm right, listen to the radio show.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I had one, a woman. She emailed in the show,
you want.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
To hear the level of commitment we're up against. She
former communists. She used to print out all the different
local elections, not the sexy stuff, not even congress or
sending every special election, every local election, every time there
was something on the ballot, a proposal of some kind.
She would create printouts of everything, and she would send
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them out to everybody in her group. Everybody she knew, Hey,
here are your marching orders, make sure you show up here,
make sure you show up there, organizing, getting people showing up.
And one time she missed one. Now, this wasn't a
presidential election. We're not talking to Hillary Barock on the ballot.
It wasn't sentate, wasn't it wasn't anything you or I
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would care about at all. A local prop election that
didn't matter. This communist was so distraught. Former communists want
to give her credit. This communist was so distraught about
missing one meaningless local election that she had to go
see a shrink to get over the horrible guilt she
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felt about missing one local election. I know that going
to battle political battle power, battles for your country. I
know it's exhausting. Look I love this, as you can tell.
I do this for a living.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm just like you. I have days where I get.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Home and I'm just tired of it. I don't care anymore.
I'm want to take a night off. I'm going to
take a week off. I'm tired of the fighting and
the yelling at that. I just can I just watch
some I know I go through the exact same thing
you go through. I know, but the communist is not tired.
He's not tired at all. I'm gonna tell you what.
(09:17):
I'll show you this little video. Uh, it's a one
of these men on the street video is where they're
talking to people.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
About racism and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And yes, it's all crazy and their hypocrites and their
nut jobs and I understand all that set all that
stuff aside as you watch this video, I want you
to watch the level of commitment of mental, spiritual commitment
we're up against.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
This is what we're up against.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What opinion of voter Yeah, they're usually pretty racist and
they're bad.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think voter ide laws are a way to perpetuate racism.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
And say, as you go, as far as goes laws
are racist for sure.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Do you think a suppress is doing American?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Definitely?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Because they're it's likely to have state IDs.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Minority voters are less likely to have the kinds of
ideas that have been described or required.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
These type of people don't live in areas with easy
access to d mds.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Or other places where the can get identification. Now I'm
here in East Harlem to ask black people their thoughts
on what you just heard.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Do you have ID normally car yes?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
That state ID?
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Do you carry ID?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (10:26):
I do.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Do you know anybody any black person doesn't carry idea?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:30):
And when that I know has an ID, why would
they think we don't have ID. That's a lot. Why
would they say that, Do you have ID?
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Because I have my ID and my friends have their IDEA,
so we know what we need to carry around.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Everybody that I know have ID, like that's one of
the things you need to walk around with New York
with ID.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Do you know any black adult who does not have ID?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So you can point out they're crazy either nuts, they
believe things that aren't real. All that stuff is true.
But these people who believe all these crazy things that
aren't real. Black people can't even get ID. Crazy, evil,
nutty as they may be, they vote every single time
with a purpose, with a commitment. They're out there ensuring
your will, your vote is canceled. We must get focused,
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We must get off the couch for elections that aren't sexy,
that don't involve Donald Trump, that don't involve the presidency,
that don't involve federal elections at all. Us getting out
voted in a district that should have been a gimme,
giving up control of the most important swing state in
the country.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Embarrassing, embarrassing for us. We have to do better.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
We have an incredible show for you here Tonight. We're
going to talk actually to so many people. We're going
to talk to Ryan Gurdusky about Pennsylvania about legwork, about doing.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
The work on the ground.
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(13:03):
that's enough of Daddy Jesse talking about a special election
in Pennsylvania. Now we're moving on to Daddy Ryan joining me. Now,
my buddy, Ryan Gradusky, who's never afraid to give you
the truth right between the eyes, is the host of
a numbers game, which I would highly recommend.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You'll sound so smart to steal all of his ideas
like I do. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The special election in Pennsylvania. It's my understanding, buddy, that
we've taken this county since the eighteen hundreds, Do I.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Have that right?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yes, it's the first time since eighteen I think fifty
that the state Senate seat has flipped and Republicans have
won in every per president in every election except for
nineteen sixty four, where LBJ won it by zero point
four percent in his forty seven state forty six state landslide.
But yeah, it is a reliably Republican district in a
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reliable Republican county, and Republicans really screwed up.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Okay, Ryan, let's break down the how and the why,
because this is one of those things. I mean, I
look at it and I just my shoulders slump. I'm
blown away at how complacent we are when Trump's name
isn't on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
What happened here?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Did we have a bad candidate that they have a
great candidate?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Was it a money thing? What happened?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So it was kind of all the above. We had
a really they had a really good candidate, a former
prosecutor and small town mayor. We had the county wide
county commissioner who's deeply unpopular. Lancaster has a lot of
debt right now because of a lot of spending. Although
he has he hasn't rate increased taxes, but he's super unpopular.
This is a seat that Democrat. He holds a seat
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that Democrats usually don't even throw a candidate against. He's
on a people run unopposed, going back to twenty eleven
when Republicans won it by two to one. He barely
won it the last time, which was I think in
twenty twenty three, so naturally they said, hey, let's run
him a a in a not so competitive district, but
let's run him again, and he was super complacent. Republicans
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had no early ballad chase operation to speak of. Democrats
had an immense one. Democrats opened the election with several
thousand I think like six or seven thousand more votes
in the early vote than Republicans did, and they won
by four hundred votes. That mettered a lot. And so
it was complacency on the part of the party. It's
a new party leader, so I'd give him some leeway
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because he's only been there for a few months. This
was his first competition. Complacency a bad candidate. Democrats had
a super strong candidate. And listen, Democrats are the electorate
of high propensity, college educated whites and a lot of
seniors now and Republicans. We've created this multi racial, multi ethnic,
working class party the ones we wanted who can win
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the popular vote in presidential election. They just don't seem
to vote when it's not a presidential election. And that's
a big problem.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, I'm glad you brought that up, because my next
question was going to be, I mean, it wasn't always
this way, where the filthy communists would it would turn
out no matter what.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We used to turn.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Out, no matter what in these special elections, and that
has changed. Is this just simply a demographic problem. Old
people vote every time, young people don't.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
That's exactly right, Jesse. I mean, Republicans were the party
that won special elections. I did a special election one
time for a guy named Bob Turner who replaced Anthony
Wiener in a deep plus seven seat in New York City,
and Republicans won it. And they want to buy a
big margin, and we could count on special elections to
really pick up huge numbers. I don't think Scott Brown
would win today if he was running in the same
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style of Massachusetts with Obamacare coming down the pipeline. If
we have the same demographics, we just don't have that
elector anymore. And that's a problem. You either have to
really engage people with deep social distrust of institutions who
only or lower information or lower commitment, who don't make
politics their lives, or you have to somehow re engage
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and have candidates who can win. Now, listen, I will
sit there and say, in special elections so far this year,
Republicans have done not so terrible. They won a very
close one in Connecticut, they won another one in California.
It's possible to still win them, but you have to
work for it. And Republicans looked at the seat and said, oh,
we don't have to work for it. It's an R
plus Sixteen's a Trump plus sixteen seat, No problem, We're
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going to win it with our eyes shut. That's just
not the way politics works in these special elections anymore,
in these off year elections. I think that's a seat
we can win back in twenty twenty six minutes up again.
But Republicans are now just two seats shy in the
state Senate of giving Democrats complete control of the Commonwealth
of Pennsylvania, which is what the seventh biggest date in
the country. Not a small place, not a place you
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just want to lose and give Democrats full control of.
It's one of the last bastions of the entire Northeast
that Democrats don't have full control of.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
That's also a place to get delicious Amish pastries and
Amish butter. I would highly recommend if you're ever there,
you do the sixth. Okay, Ryan, how did we lose
old people? I'm fascinated by this demographic shift. I understand
why working class people are drifting towards Republicans as Democrats
become more and more snooty elitists who.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Talk down to everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I get that, But old people, how do we lose them?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Old people changed because the old people that I grew
up with, Like, let's say you're a child of the
nineties like me, and you watch the little giants growing up,
and the old people there were World War Two veterans.
They're all dead now, and the old people now are
Jane Fonda. The old people now are people who I
naturally would think of are in their sixties, but they're
actually in their eighties now. And that's who is. That's
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just who old people are now. Old people have changed
the last fifteen twenty years. And they were the progressive
of the Bill Clinton generation. They were the ones who
you know, many of them opposed the Vietnam War, a
lot of them were the most progressive generation of their time.
That's who old people are. Because time has changed and
time has gone on, and so the ones who we
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thought of is old people are for the most part
gone now and the ones who are left are you know,
the counter cultural people. I mean, that's just that's kind
of how it happened. Part of it is is that
all people changed.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You also run the seventeen seventy six Project Pack, of
which I am a big fan in supporter. It involves
what with school board races, you're involved in school board
races across the country.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
What are you seeing out there right now?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Well, we just won our first election in Maine, so
I was exciting. But Wisconsin's April first. We have a
ton We have I think twenty eight candidates across the state.
And then right after that we have Texas is coming
up in May. First week of May. I think there's Texas,
tons of races over in Texas. We have Pennsylvania at
the end of the year. Virginia's coming up. There's a
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lot of big and important states. And what I would
say to people is this. A lot of Republicans are
saying Trump's in office, how great. We don't have to
go crazy, you don't have to get wild. He's got
everything going on. And I would say it's as good
as having a great police chief who has corrupt cops.
You can only do so much without foot soldiers on
the ground who are making sure executive orders are attuned
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to or fought for. I'll give you a perfect example
in Kansas, in a conservative area, Trump area, there was
a bill to sit there and carry out Trump's policies
on DEI was in a conservative district, and it went
down because one conservative flipped. Now my pack has promised
to spend twenty thousand dollars to remove him from office
in the upcoming election, and state representatives have also sat
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there and said they got a campaign against this member.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Of the school board.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
But members of school boards and local government are super
important to carry out the things in your everyday life
that the president's in there and trying to pursue the
executive order. You can't have a great president and bad
local officials and expect things to just get better. You
have to have good local officials too.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
That you could argue there were a lot more important
than the office of the presidency. Okay, so let's talk nationally.
That was a lot of ugliness. What are we looking
at nationally? Every time you wake up, there's a new
poll showing Democrats are in support Jasmine Crockett, who I
just adore, will not stop getting her face all over television.
Republicans even Trump himself pretty high approval ratings for the
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modern era. But this is what I see. You see
it differently, What do you see?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
I mean, listen, Democrats are in a world of hurt
right now. They're looking for a message. That doesn't mean
they can't win in a twenty twenty six mid term
given that low propensity voters don't show up as much.
Showing up is everything, and as you talked about Jesse
a lot on your show, especially in primaries, the ones
who show up are the ones who decide elections. Why
do we still have moderate Republicans in deep Republican counties
because you don't show up in primaries. But I will
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say that in the upcoming elections for the twenty twenty
six on a national scene, Republicans are not We don't
see the tide of a wave election coming up yet.
I mean in twenty twenties and twenty seventeen, Democrats already
had a five point lead in the generic ballad ahead
of the twenty eighteen election. Right now they have about
a one point and the undecided vote is much much smaller.
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There's a lot of open seats that we could sit
there and take. In the US Senate, there's a lot
of competitive elections in the House that Trump won last
time that we could certainly win this time. And Democrats
don't know the naturally, But Republicans really have to get
engaged very very early in this cycle, and we'll see
if that happens.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Ryan, everybody has an explanation for why Democrats are creatoring
Everybody on the right as an explanation. Everyone on the
left has an explanation. What's the Ryan Gurdsky explanation.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I think part of it is because they on issues
don't follow and where the American people are. They really
are the party of people that Americans just don't like.
I mean, if you think that the dime store version
of Cardi B known as Jasmine Crockett is who should
be the face of your party and people who are
barely speaking English on a daily basis and just having
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awfuls in front of you, who are lecturing you constantly,
I think that you don't understand the mood of the people.
And also the fact is that COVID really change young people.
According to the David Shore Data who's a democratic data scientist,
the most Republican demographic in the last election were white
men between the ages of eighteen and twenty. People who
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lost out on high school, people who lost out on
prom and sports games and social life and were suck
watching TikTok and Instagram are the most right wing generations
since the Greatest generation that fought World War two. I
don't think that it could be underestimated right now how
badly COVID really affect him.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
And I'll say one other thing.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
The population loss that happened in COVID, in Chicago, in
LA in New York that were supposed to result in
dozens of House seats lost them in twenty thirty, that's
probably been in half now, Like the amount of seats
that were going to lose is half of what they're
probably going to lose because mass immigration has replaced the
Americans that left. People have been moving to those places.
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Mass immigration stops Democrats from feeling the actual fallout from
their failed policies. And I don't think that can be
expressing of it. And it's not just illegal immigration, it
is legal immigration. It needs to be emphasized over and
over and over again, how badly legal immigration keeps the
Democratic Party propped up. They would probably losing three to
four seats in New York in the next redistricting, and
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four to five in California, and they're probably going to
lose two to three in Niche now.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Which is of course the entire point of filling up
your country with barbarians.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Cancel out the.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
American patriot, who's your mortal enemy if you're a Democrat?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Okay, Ryan, before I let you go.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Why should I give a crap about New Jersey Other
than the fact that I have friends there and they
have delicious sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You should give a crap about New Jersey because it's
going to be America's next swing state. And if it
becomes America's next swing state and Republicans have a chance
of winning it, there is no chance of a Democratic
president becoming going to the whitest again. Republicans have out
registered new voters in New Jersey every single month since
twenty twenty two. They've moved the state has moved to
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the right in three consecutive elections presidential, congressional, and goognatorial.
And I think there's a real chance of Republicans. Democrats
lead in New Jersey has gone down by over two
hundred and fifty thousand votes registered Democratic advantage, and it
holds tons of congressional seats, tons of opportunity as far
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as making a new purple state for the election. And
Jersey was a consistently Republican state from sixty eight to
eighty eight. It's been democratic for thirty years now, there's
no reason it can't be Republican again.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Ryan, thank you, my brother. All right, Senator Ron Johnson
is going to join us next. I'm hearing some things
I don't like about the budget that's coming. You know,
the Senator is going to have some things to say
about that. We'll talk to him in a moment. Before
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Speaker 2 (26:39):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well, there's a lot going on in Washington, DC right now,
and I understand there's all kinds of shiny objects running
here and there with signal chats and hooties and other
I'm not dismissing any of those things, but kind of
a big deal was the budget and there's apparently I
was texting with a different senator, not Senator Johnson, last night,
(27:09):
and I am not hearing good things about what's coming
from DC. Joining me now, a great senator from the
state of Wisconsin, Senator Ron Johnson, Senator, I know you're
already speaking out about this. The things I found out
last night had me flat out crying in my evening coffee.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
What's happening, Well, you got to tell me why you're
crying at coffee. I actually think we're making some headway
because we've dug our heels in here and let people
know our heels are dug in until we have a realistic,
a reasonable pre pandemic, a spending level, and a commitment
in a process to achieve it.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yes, Senator, but I don't hear that commitment from the House.
I guess I should have clarified. The Senate seems to
be okay. Apparently what landed on your desk from the
House is not good.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
And you know Leader Thun knows full well that he
shouldn't even bring that up for a vote because it
won't even survive the motion proceed And so we had
we had a long conversation. He's fully aware of the
options I've laid out. And again, just to simplify this,
if you take a previous year's outlays, whether it's Clinton
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ninety eight, Obama in twenty fourteen, or Trump in twenty nineteen,
leave Social Security, Medicare, and you can even leave Medicaid alone.
Don't touch those. Just spend what we're spending in twenty
twenty five, increase the other total outlayers for those years
by population growth and inflation, you'd have total annual spending
(28:43):
a somewhere between five point five and six point five
trillion dollars. So let's just talk about twenty nineteen. That's
the six point five trillion dollars. Nobody can argue against
the fact that if you spend what we spent in
twenty twenty nine, fully inflated for population growth and inflation,
exempting Social County, Medicare and Medicaid, that that's not a
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reasonable proposal. In quite honestly, we should not spend a
dying more than that. And yet the House resolution would
take seven point three trillion, which is what we're spending
this year. Knock off about one hundred and fifty billion,
and say, hell, did we do a great job. And oh,
by the way, we're gonna increase testily by four trillion
dollars that ain't flying in the Senate and now people know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That, Oh praise god.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
How does it build like this? How does the House
which we control, how do they even send something like
this to your desk? I was told one point five
trillion in cuts over ten years, which of course is
the old Washington gimmick that everybody watching understands never actually materializes.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Jesse, we don't.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I come from manufacturing background, right, You don't have a
good product without a good process. We do not have
a good process for controlling spending in washingt d C.
It's obvious, you know, the Budget Act is said teventy
four set up all this insane, all these insane rules
that hasn't worked, the old way of doing things. By
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the way, by separating out discretionary spending, which is the
only thing we appropriate appropriate versus mandatory. Only twenty four
percent is actually appropriated now seventy six percent is not
automatic spending. And most people think, well, that's social kitty,
Medicare and Medicaid. No, there's one point three trillion dollars
additional to Social Security, Medicare, and medicaid. It's growing from
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six point forty two to one point three trillion dollars
since twenty nineteen. We can do that in reconciliation. So
again I keep hearing my you know, these these brave
members are conference, well, we're acting, we're not serious about
cut cutting spending lists, we're willing to address those entitlements. No,
you can, you can literally ignore those exempt them, and
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you can be at no more now that dying more
than six point five trillion dollars. Personally, I would start
with the Clinton budget, which passed seventy seven to twenty
two in the US Senate seventy two. We have current
centators on both sides the out that voted for that. Okay,
you start there at five point five plus up for defense,
that happened four nine to eleven for vets, you're still
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no more than six trillion dollars, which, by the way,
was the Senate budget resolution. That was our aspirational goal
in the you know, the border security budget resolution that
we passed. We should have done that. By the way,
we should have broken this down into steps. I think
President Trump got sold a bill of goods by the House.
I think can pass this one big, beautiful bill. I
think that's a pretty risky bet right there, when you
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understand the complexity of that and how difficult that's going
to be to pass. So I would still recommend President
Trump abandoned that, embrace the Senate, get him his border security.
The next step would be just extend the current tax code.
Take a massive automatic tax increase off the table, which,
by the way, is there because we blew it in
the Tax Cutting Jobs Act. We allowed these things to
(31:56):
automatically expire. We shouldn't do that. Fix for that, you
just use current policy. There's no score for extending the
current tax law. Okay, So again, again, this place is insane.
I come from the private sector. You know, from my standpoint,
this is an alternate universe.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I can sense your frustration, Senator.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Since we can't clone you, how do we ensure that
future senators ten years from now, twenty years from now,
how do we ensure that we can get any kind
of physical sanity? Is there a solution? Is it a
balanced budget amendment? Is there any rule you can put
into place? Or as long as we send politicians to DC,
they're going to find a way to jack taxpayer money
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and hand it out to their friends.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
If you're taling constants them and I would limit spending
to a certain stent of GDP. But right now, the
reason I'm pushing this panel, you know, a by camera.
So you have senators, you have House members, you have
members of the administration, probably from OMB sitting on a
budget view panel, and you bring up the department heads,
the secretaries, the CFOs, and you go line by line,
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twenty four hundred lines in the twenty twenty five budget.
You go line by line and just have the people explain. So, so,
why is this line item, you know, one billion dollars
higher than twenty nineteen, fully inflated for population and inflation.
Why is it a billion dollars over that level? Oh
(33:27):
you can't explain it. Well, you're not going to get
that extra billion dollars cut that account. You do that
twenty four hundred times. I'm not saying there's a billion
dollars in each one of those expenditure lines. But if
there was, that'd be two point four trillion dollars a
year savings. Again, that's you don't have a billion each line.
But you go line by line. Do you put in
the work? Jesse, We never look at seventy six percent
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of the budget. It's an automatic pilot. You start there
and bring it all in so at least we're looking
at it, but look at it line by line. And
just like in the private sector and anybody who's ever
been in management and had to go in front of
a budget review committee, you know, if you're beating your numbers,
it's pretty comfortable meeting. If you're not beating your numbers,
it's not going to be pleasant. And as I keep saying,
(34:11):
in the private sector, this would be easy if I
would have told my managers, hey, listen, I'll let you
increase your budget based on the number of customers you
serve and inflation.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Six years later, if I come back and go, hey,
you're ten percent over that, what are you doing? If
I don't fire you, I'm going to make sure that
you dial back your spending to at least you know
what I directed you to so again.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
To me, this is such low hanging fruit.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
This is painless, quite honestly, other than the fact you
had to go line by line and get these again,
all the departments heads justifying twenty four hundred lines of expenditures.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's work.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
It's work. I appreciate you very much and what you're doing. Senator,
thank you. Please keep it up. I mean, sense is frustration.
Ron Johnson's like the nicest guy I know. He's ready
to kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Anyway. We have more.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Next here, we have a presidential memorandum for your attention.
This memorandum requires the immediate declassification of all FBI files
relating to the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. This was obviously one
of the instances of the weaponization of law enforcement powers
of prosecution against you and others. We believe that it's
long pastime for the American people to have a full
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and complete understanding of what exactly is in.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Those files, which gives the media the right to go
in and go and check it. You probably won't bother
because you're not going to like what you say.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
What are they going to see?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Crossfire Hurricane seems like I've heard of that before joining
me now to discuss it and where we might be
going from here. Hans Monkey, author of the book Swift
Voting America, which I would highly recken. Okay, Hans, refresh
my memory. There's too many scandals, too many news stories.
Crossfire Hurricane, what is it? Why are we declassifying things?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
So?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Crossfire Hurricane was the investigation into the Trump campaign that
was opened in July of twenty sixteen by James Comy
and his cabal, and that carried on all the way
into May of twenty seventeen when the Muller people took over.
So we're looking at about a year's worth of materials.
Now a lot of them have been released already. So
(36:33):
this is kind of what I'm expecting this to be,
is kind of filling gaps, tying up loose ends, kind
of things like that. Now, when you look at the
order that President Trump signed, it actually has some more
details about it refers to a list of things that's
going to be released. So they kind of made it
sound like everything is going to be released, but it's
not going to be quite everything is. There's a list.
(36:54):
It's it's called the so called Binder. It was actually
meant to be released President Trump's first term, but then
Mark Meadows kind of stopped that from happening, the chief
of staff at the time. No one quite understands why
that happened. But anyway, I think we're finally now at
the point where we will see this binder, which is
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going to contain hopefully a lot of juicy information on
that cross Fire Hurricane investigation.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
OS.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
What do we believe from all this, because look, you're
never going to convince me that Barack Obama didn't authorize
all these things, but that's what I believe.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
What do you believe?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Well, I believe that too. And the sad part about
this release and I'm not trying to kind of kind
of denigrade it or whatever. I'm always happy when stuff
is released.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
This is good.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
But the sad part is we're only talking cross Fire
Hurricane and only FBI, and the Barack Obama part doesn't
pertain to cross Fire Hurricane and FBI. Now specifically, we
know that Obama was briefed by the CIA in July
of twenty sixteen, that is, before this investigation opened, and
he was briefed on the fact that this was all
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Hillary Clinton's idea that this was Hillary Clinton's campaign a
dirty trick, that she was the one who orchestrated it,
that she was the one who decided to paint Donald
Trump as a Russian agent. So Obama then instead of
shutting it down, he escalated it, he weaponized it. So
he's completely behind it. Now. The problem is all the
documents pertaining to that are CIA documents, and those are
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the ones I'd like to see.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, that sure would be interesting to know if America's
foremost intelligence agency was involved in trying to stop the
Republican nominee for president, that would be kind of a
big deal. Anyway, Hans, let's shift gears. Michael Walls is
on Fox News with all this signaled chat stuff saying
things like this today, so.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
They want to focus on this. It's embarrassing. Yes, we're
going to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We have.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
I just talked to Elon on the way here. We've
got the best technical minds looking at how this happened.
But I can tell you, I can tell you for
one hundred percent. I don't know this guy. I know
him by his horrible reputation and he really is the
bottom scum of journalists. Uh, And I know him in
the sense that he hates the president.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
But I don't text him.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
He went on my phone.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
And we're going to figure out how this happens. So
you don't know what staffer is responsible for this right now? Well, look,
a staffer wasn't responsible. And look, I take full responsibility.
I built the I built the group to My job
is to make sure everything's coordinated.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
But how did That's acute?
Speaker 7 (39:27):
I mean, I don't mean to be pedantic here, but
how did the number?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Have you ever had?
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name
and then you have an and then you have somebody else? Right,
you've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact. So
of course I didn't see this loser in the group.
It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it
deliberately or it happened in some other technical means something
we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Okay, Hans, look like I, Like I said earlier today,
we made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
It's a huge mistake. I'm ready to move on.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
But that and there is honestly a little bit confusing
to me. It's my chat. I created it. It definitely
wasn't a staffer. I also don't know the guy. We're
investigating how he was added. Look, Jeffrey Goldberg maybe a
weapons great scumbag, but he's also not Jason Bourne. It
didn't add himself to the chat. Someone did.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Yeah, No, I completely agree with you there. I think
it was a mistake going on Fox News. It's generally
a mistake going on any news show, or on any
show or or you know, to do with if you're
in a legal situation to talk to anyone unless and
until you have your story straight. And he obviously didn't
have a story straight, and so I guess he was
sent in there to kind of clean up the mess,
(40:41):
and frankly, he made the mess even worse because, as
you say, now it is sort of innuendo with Elon
and hacking and this and that. And I agree it
makes no sense what they should have done and what
appears to have happened here, and I agree with you
is someone screwed up. Whether it was Waltz himself or
one of his people, someone screwed up. Someone got the
wrong numbers, the wrong name in there, and then you know,
(41:04):
things took their course from there. So they should just
own up, just said we screwed up. We shouldn't have
put this guy in there. We thought it was another JG.
You know, that Goldberg whatever there was. There's a the
US trade representative. He's called Greer. Maybe it was him,
I don't know, but just just say it that you
know there was someone else JG. And they just got
messed up. They screwed up, and it won't happen again.
(41:26):
And then don't talk about it anymore. What's the what
was the point in going on that Fox News show
and today as well? They just keep talking about it.
Just say you own up to the mistake, and then
just don't talk about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting frush. I've been frustrated the entire time.
I'm frustrated no one was fired. Now I'm frustrating they're
still talking about it. I do not think the trub
administration has handled this well at all.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Big, big, big screw up, and I don't like it
at all.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Okay, moving past that, Uh, there's a judicial coup going
on in the country where communist judges are stopping every
meetul thing that Trump administration tries to do. I know
how I want it handled, Hans, How do you want
it handled?
Speaker 6 (42:07):
It's a difficult one. Now I'm going to where my
lawyer's hat here. I don't fully disagree with the idea
that judges should have the right to issue these sweeping injunctions,
but of course in very particular circumstances. So the government
starts rounding up anyone with Japanese heritage, you know, like
they did seventy eighty years ago, that's when you need
(42:30):
these people to step in. But of course that so
that's the initial idea behind it, and then of course
it's been completely abused and now they just step in
at any juncture and so on. So ultimately I think
it's going to have to change. That means the court,
the district court at the lowest level, will have to
get its wings clipped. And I think what will have
to happen is that they will need to be told
so that the Supreme Court will need to step in,
(42:52):
and hopefully they do it at some point. You know,
they've been kind of dragging their feet, and just outline
the circumstances in which the district courts, the lowest level
of the courts, can step in and what they can do.
So for starters, they should only be able to act
on behalf of some clients that they actually have. So
for instance, in this case of these Venezuelan gang members,
(43:12):
there was actually five clients, and the government actually did
everything as asked of them by the courts in relation
to these five clients. The problem is that this judge
Boseburg then kind of made it more sweeping. He said, well,
it's not the five before me. Yes, but I'm gonna
just apply to everyone. And that's a big problem where
it's become a big problem. So I think the Supreme
(43:34):
Court will just have to step in and kind of
put in some boundaries, put in some some offenses here
to make this more clear. Now, I'm not confident, not
very confident that that will happen, because we got Roberts
on the court and of course Amy Cony Barrett, so
it's kind of more of a five to four liberal
court than it is a six' to three conservative, court
as we're always. Told SO i think ultimately what will
(43:57):
happen is that they The Supreme court will rein in
some of these abuses but not. Others they'll kind of
take a pick and choose, approach and they're probably not
going to clip the wings of these courts in any
kind of long term fashion.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Bonds as, Always thank, you my. Friend all, right lighten
the mood. Next all, right it's time to lighten the.
Mood AND i have just been so so happy lately
(44:36):
with What i've seen from The Democrat party because here's the.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Truth we have control right.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Now we have The, house we have The, senate we
have the, presidency and The american people Are they're generally
going to chafe against whoever is in. Control that's why
that's why the party in control generally loses so many
seats in the. Midterms the second someone else takes, over
The american people choose somebody, new they eventually get tired of,
them and then they switch and they go back the other.
(45:03):
Way but we have people Like Maxine waters who just
continue to remind The american people why they were rejected
to begin.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
With if he, was Is god looking so closely to
find those who were born here and their parents were.
Undocumented maybe out of person that Getting milannia. Out we
don't know whether or not our parents will, documented and
maybe we'd better just take a.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Look milania's parents were, legal by the, Way malania is,
legal but none of that. Matters that's just so wonderful for.
Us please keep, talking all of.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
YOU i appreciate. It we'll see them all
We need to focus and we're not focused. We're gonna
talk about that. To open up the show tonight, We're
gonna talk about the declassification of the crossfire hurricane documents.
Maybe a heavy talk about the budget coming all that
and more coming up when I'm right.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Let's talk. Let's have a Daddy Jesse talk.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Pull up a chair, let's talk, because something bad just
happened yesterday and we need to address it before I
get to the bad. I know this isn't about the
signal chat stuff and things like that. We're moving off
of that before I get to the bad. Have you
ever known anybody who struggles with addiction of some kind?
(00:49):
Maybe it's drugs or alcohol or something like that. So
let's make it about alcoholics. That's a common struggle. Maybe
it's something you struggle with. By the way, keep struggling,
you will overcome anyway. Maybe that's a struggle you are
aware of. Let's say somebody's been drinking a fifth of
whiskey every day for twenty years. All right, it's bad,
(01:09):
and they decide they want to clean it up, all right, and.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They go.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
One day without a fifth of whiskey. Maybe it's even
a Friday. Friday night, that'd be the night where they
really go crazy and they decide, I want to clean.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Up my life.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm not having any today, and they skip that day.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Then they go back and have another one on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, so let's discuss this because this is going to
be about us in elections. Did that one day? Did
it mean nothing?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's a great thing. And if that's you, if you've
done something like this, be.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Proud of yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's not easy to break the cycle and take a
day off. That's a good thing. But did that one
day solve your alcohol problem? No, of course not. You
won one battle in a million battles, and you have
(02:12):
got to stay focused and win a lot more.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We the United States of.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
America, we went out in November and we rejected American communism,
the American people, not just you and me, not just
the politically involved, the American people. We watched in horror
as the Biden administration tore this country apart every way
they could in the American people. And I'm proud of
(02:38):
us for that. We went out in one election and
said no more enough, and the results were overwhelming. County
after county, every County went to the right. Everybody, everyone said,
I've had enough with this garbage.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Enough. And I was very.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Proud of us, and I remain very proud of us
for that day. For a day, we did good and
we should be proud of it. However, as I had said,
I've said a million times this. I said it before
the election, I've said it since the election. I will
say it till the day they kicked me off the air.
Saving a country or losing a country, it is not
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an event. There's not a super Bowl, there's not a
one time thing. It's a process. It's not an event.
It's a process. A presidential election. Yes, it's critically important,
just like that Friday when you skip the whiskey.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It did not fix everything by a mile.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I say this because well, Trump signed an executive
order yesterday and everyone's making a big deal of it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Here it was.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
We believe that this executive order is the farthest reaching
executive action taken in the history of the Republic to
secure our elections. Among numerous other aspects of this executive order,
this is going to down on illegal immigrants on the
voter rolls ensure that the Department of Homeland Security and
the data that they have available is being fully weaponized
(04:07):
to ensure that illegal immigrants aren't voting. This will include
a citizenship question on the federal voting form for the
first time. This executive order instructs the EAC to cut
federal funding to states that don't take reasonable steps to
secure their election. This calls on the Department of Justice
to vigorously prosecute election crimes, particularly in states that we
(04:29):
don't believe are in compliance with federal law around election integrity.
I could go on and on for a while, sir,
but compliance with national Election Day rules, cracking down and
investigating and prosecuting foreign interference in our elections, Revoking President
Biden's Executive Order fourteen one point nine, which essentially weaponized
(04:50):
government to corrupt and pollute our election process. There's a
lot in here, but we believe that these are very
important steps that we need to be taking as an administration.
Your direction to ensure that our elections are as secure
as they possibly can be.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I see a lot of yeah, don't trump whoo.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, we're going to secure our elections. Why don't we
show up and vote for them? Then? We just we
had a huge election.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Wasn't sexy, but a huge election in Pennsylvania for the
state house. It wasn't for national but Pennsylvania the critical
swing state. The laws, the things they pass in Pennsylvania
will undoubtedly affect whether or not we can win presidential
elections and things like that. A critical special election, special
(05:43):
election in a district Trump won by sixteen points in November,
and the results of this special election were to decide
did decide who would control the Pennsylvania legislature.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You realize that those were the.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Of the game, and this was a gimme for us
plus sixteen Trump district.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Surely we got that in the bag. Right.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
We lost, didn't even show up. I think we lost
by less than five hundred votes last time I looked.
I know there's still some moving, some numbers around, but
less than five hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Votes we lost. Oh, I know, I know. We elected
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And it is human nature when you get a win
like that, especially when it's for the office of the presidency,
it's human nature to sit back and go, oh, finally,
I'm glad we saved this place. Anyway, March madness is on.
I get it, I get it. But if that is
going to be our attitude, we're going to lose this country.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You can't save the country by only showing up to
vote when Donald Trump was on the ballot. We cannot
continue to dust off our maga hats once every four
years and show up when Trump's running for president and
save the United States of America. The American communist doesn't
do that. The American Communist.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I'll tell you a little story here before I let
you go, so we have a huge show for you tonight.
I have told you the story maybe before. But I
have a bunch of former communists who watched us here
on I'm right, listen to the radio show.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I had one, a woman. She emailed in the show,
you want.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
To hear the level of commitment we're up against. She
former communists. She used to print out all the different
local elections, not the sexy stuff, not even congress or
sending every special election, every local election, every time there
was something on the ballot, a proposal of some kind.
She would create printouts of everything, and she would send
(07:52):
them out to everybody in her group. Everybody she knew, Hey,
here are your marching orders, make sure you show up here,
make sure you show up there, organizing, getting people showing up.
And one time she missed one. Now, this wasn't a
presidential election. We're not talking to Hillary Barock on the ballot.
It wasn't sentate, wasn't it wasn't anything you or I
(08:13):
would care about at all. A local prop election that
didn't matter. This communist was so distraught. Former communists want
to give her credit. This communist was so distraught about
missing one meaningless local election that she had to go
see a shrink to get over the horrible guilt she
(08:34):
felt about missing one local election. I know that going
to battle political battle power, battles for your country. I
know it's exhausting. Look I love this, as you can tell.
I do this for a living.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm just like you. I have days where I get.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Home and I'm just tired of it. I don't care anymore.
I'm want to take a night off. I'm going to
take a week off. I'm tired of the fighting and
the yelling at that. I just can I just watch
some I know I go through the exact same thing
you go through. I know, but the communist is not tired.
He's not tired at all. I'm gonna tell you what.
(09:17):
I'll show you this little video. Uh, it's a one
of these men on the street video is where they're
talking to people.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
About racism and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And yes, it's all crazy and their hypocrites and their
nut jobs and I understand all that set all that
stuff aside as you watch this video, I want you
to watch the level of commitment of mental, spiritual commitment
we're up against.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
This is what we're up against.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What opinion of voter Yeah, they're usually pretty racist and
they're bad.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think voter ide laws are a way to perpetuate racism.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
And say, as you go, as far as goes laws
are racist for sure.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Do you think a suppress is doing American?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Definitely?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Because they're it's likely to have state IDs.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Minority voters are less likely to have the kinds of
ideas that have been described or required.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
These type of people don't live in areas with easy
access to d mds.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Or other places where the can get identification. Now I'm
here in East Harlem to ask black people their thoughts
on what you just heard.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Do you have ID normally car yes?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
That state ID?
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Do you carry ID?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (10:26):
I do.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Do you know anybody any black person doesn't carry idea?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:30):
And when that I know has an ID, why would
they think we don't have ID. That's a lot. Why
would they say that, Do you have ID?
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Because I have my ID and my friends have their IDEA,
so we know what we need to carry around.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Everybody that I know have ID, like that's one of
the things you need to walk around with New York
with ID.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Do you know any black adult who does not have ID?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So you can point out they're crazy either nuts, they
believe things that aren't real. All that stuff is true.
But these people who believe all these crazy things that
aren't real. Black people can't even get ID. Crazy, evil,
nutty as they may be, they vote every single time
with a purpose, with a commitment. They're out there ensuring
your will, your vote is canceled. We must get focused,
(11:19):
We must get off the couch for elections that aren't sexy,
that don't involve Donald Trump, that don't involve the presidency,
that don't involve federal elections at all. Us getting out
voted in a district that should have been a gimme,
giving up control of the most important swing state in
the country.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Embarrassing, embarrassing for us. We have to do better.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
We have an incredible show for you here Tonight. We're
going to talk actually to so many people. We're going
to talk to Ryan Gurdusky about Pennsylvania about legwork, about doing.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
The work on the ground.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
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(13:03):
that's enough of Daddy Jesse talking about a special election
in Pennsylvania. Now we're moving on to Daddy Ryan joining me. Now,
my buddy, Ryan Gradusky, who's never afraid to give you
the truth right between the eyes, is the host of
a numbers game, which I would highly recommend.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You'll sound so smart to steal all of his ideas
like I do. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The special election in Pennsylvania. It's my understanding, buddy, that
we've taken this county since the eighteen hundreds, Do I.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Have that right?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yes, it's the first time since eighteen I think fifty
that the state Senate seat has flipped and Republicans have
won in every per president in every election except for
nineteen sixty four, where LBJ won it by zero point
four percent in his forty seven state forty six state landslide.
But yeah, it is a reliably Republican district in a
(13:52):
reliable Republican county, and Republicans really screwed up.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Okay, Ryan, let's break down the how and the why,
because this is one of those things. I mean, I
look at it and I just my shoulders slump. I'm
blown away at how complacent we are when Trump's name
isn't on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
What happened here?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Did we have a bad candidate that they have a
great candidate?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Was it a money thing? What happened?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So it was kind of all the above. We had
a really they had a really good candidate, a former
prosecutor and small town mayor. We had the county wide
county commissioner who's deeply unpopular. Lancaster has a lot of
debt right now because of a lot of spending. Although
he has he hasn't rate increased taxes, but he's super unpopular.
This is a seat that Democrat. He holds a seat
(14:39):
that Democrats usually don't even throw a candidate against. He's
on a people run unopposed, going back to twenty eleven
when Republicans won it by two to one. He barely
won it the last time, which was I think in
twenty twenty three, so naturally they said, hey, let's run
him a a in a not so competitive district, but
let's run him again, and he was super complacent. Republicans
(15:01):
had no early ballad chase operation to speak of. Democrats
had an immense one. Democrats opened the election with several
thousand I think like six or seven thousand more votes
in the early vote than Republicans did, and they won
by four hundred votes. That mettered a lot. And so
it was complacency on the part of the party. It's
a new party leader, so I'd give him some leeway
(15:22):
because he's only been there for a few months. This
was his first competition. Complacency a bad candidate. Democrats had
a super strong candidate. And listen, Democrats are the electorate
of high propensity, college educated whites and a lot of
seniors now and Republicans. We've created this multi racial, multi ethnic,
working class party the ones we wanted who can win
(15:45):
the popular vote in presidential election. They just don't seem
to vote when it's not a presidential election. And that's
a big problem.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, I'm glad you brought that up, because my next
question was going to be, I mean, it wasn't always
this way, where the filthy communists would it would turn
out no matter what.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We used to turn.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Out, no matter what in these special elections, and that
has changed. Is this just simply a demographic problem. Old
people vote every time, young people don't.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
That's exactly right, Jesse. I mean, Republicans were the party
that won special elections. I did a special election one
time for a guy named Bob Turner who replaced Anthony
Wiener in a deep plus seven seat in New York City,
and Republicans won it. And they want to buy a
big margin, and we could count on special elections to
really pick up huge numbers. I don't think Scott Brown
would win today if he was running in the same
(16:35):
style of Massachusetts with Obamacare coming down the pipeline. If
we have the same demographics, we just don't have that
elector anymore. And that's a problem. You either have to
really engage people with deep social distrust of institutions who
only or lower information or lower commitment, who don't make
politics their lives, or you have to somehow re engage
(16:56):
and have candidates who can win. Now, listen, I will
sit there and say, in special elections so far this year,
Republicans have done not so terrible. They won a very
close one in Connecticut, they won another one in California.
It's possible to still win them, but you have to
work for it. And Republicans looked at the seat and said, oh,
we don't have to work for it. It's an R
plus Sixteen's a Trump plus sixteen seat, No problem, We're
(17:18):
going to win it with our eyes shut. That's just
not the way politics works in these special elections anymore,
in these off year elections. I think that's a seat
we can win back in twenty twenty six minutes up again.
But Republicans are now just two seats shy in the
state Senate of giving Democrats complete control of the Commonwealth
of Pennsylvania, which is what the seventh biggest date in
the country. Not a small place, not a place you
(17:39):
just want to lose and give Democrats full control of.
It's one of the last bastions of the entire Northeast
that Democrats don't have full control of.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
That's also a place to get delicious Amish pastries and
Amish butter. I would highly recommend if you're ever there,
you do the sixth. Okay, Ryan, how did we lose
old people? I'm fascinated by this demographic shift. I understand
why working class people are drifting towards Republicans as Democrats
become more and more snooty elitists who.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Talk down to everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I get that, But old people, how do we lose them?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Old people changed because the old people that I grew
up with, Like, let's say you're a child of the
nineties like me, and you watch the little giants growing up,
and the old people there were World War Two veterans.
They're all dead now, and the old people now are
Jane Fonda. The old people now are people who I
naturally would think of are in their sixties, but they're
actually in their eighties now. And that's who is. That's
(18:35):
just who old people are now. Old people have changed
the last fifteen twenty years. And they were the progressive
of the Bill Clinton generation. They were the ones who
you know, many of them opposed the Vietnam War, a
lot of them were the most progressive generation of their time.
That's who old people are. Because time has changed and
time has gone on, and so the ones who we
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thought of is old people are for the most part
gone now and the ones who are left are you know,
the counter cultural people. I mean, that's just that's kind
of how it happened. Part of it is is that
all people changed.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You also run the seventeen seventy six Project Pack, of
which I am a big fan in supporter. It involves
what with school board races, you're involved in school board
races across the country.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
What are you seeing out there right now?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Well, we just won our first election in Maine, so
I was exciting. But Wisconsin's April first. We have a
ton We have I think twenty eight candidates across the state.
And then right after that we have Texas is coming
up in May. First week of May. I think there's Texas,
tons of races over in Texas. We have Pennsylvania at
the end of the year. Virginia's coming up. There's a
(19:42):
lot of big and important states. And what I would
say to people is this. A lot of Republicans are
saying Trump's in office, how great. We don't have to
go crazy, you don't have to get wild. He's got
everything going on. And I would say it's as good
as having a great police chief who has corrupt cops.
You can only do so much without foot soldiers on
the ground who are making sure executive orders are attuned
(20:03):
to or fought for. I'll give you a perfect example
in Kansas, in a conservative area, Trump area, there was
a bill to sit there and carry out Trump's policies
on DEI was in a conservative district, and it went
down because one conservative flipped. Now my pack has promised
to spend twenty thousand dollars to remove him from office
in the upcoming election, and state representatives have also sat
(20:25):
there and said they got a campaign against this member.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Of the school board.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
But members of school boards and local government are super
important to carry out the things in your everyday life
that the president's in there and trying to pursue the
executive order. You can't have a great president and bad
local officials and expect things to just get better. You
have to have good local officials too.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
That you could argue there were a lot more important
than the office of the presidency. Okay, so let's talk nationally.
That was a lot of ugliness. What are we looking
at nationally? Every time you wake up, there's a new
poll showing Democrats are in support Jasmine Crockett, who I
just adore, will not stop getting her face all over television.
Republicans even Trump himself pretty high approval ratings for the
(21:10):
modern era. But this is what I see. You see
it differently, What do you see?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
I mean, listen, Democrats are in a world of hurt
right now. They're looking for a message. That doesn't mean
they can't win in a twenty twenty six mid term
given that low propensity voters don't show up as much.
Showing up is everything, and as you talked about Jesse
a lot on your show, especially in primaries, the ones
who show up are the ones who decide elections. Why
do we still have moderate Republicans in deep Republican counties
because you don't show up in primaries. But I will
(21:38):
say that in the upcoming elections for the twenty twenty
six on a national scene, Republicans are not We don't
see the tide of a wave election coming up yet.
I mean in twenty twenties and twenty seventeen, Democrats already
had a five point lead in the generic ballad ahead
of the twenty eighteen election. Right now they have about
a one point and the undecided vote is much much smaller.
(22:01):
There's a lot of open seats that we could sit
there and take. In the US Senate, there's a lot
of competitive elections in the House that Trump won last
time that we could certainly win this time. And Democrats
don't know the naturally, But Republicans really have to get
engaged very very early in this cycle, and we'll see
if that happens.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Ryan, everybody has an explanation for why Democrats are creatoring
Everybody on the right as an explanation. Everyone on the
left has an explanation. What's the Ryan Gurdsky explanation.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I think part of it is because they on issues
don't follow and where the American people are. They really
are the party of people that Americans just don't like.
I mean, if you think that the dime store version
of Cardi B known as Jasmine Crockett is who should
be the face of your party and people who are
barely speaking English on a daily basis and just having
(22:51):
awfuls in front of you, who are lecturing you constantly,
I think that you don't understand the mood of the people.
And also the fact is that COVID really change young people.
According to the David Shore Data who's a democratic data scientist,
the most Republican demographic in the last election were white
men between the ages of eighteen and twenty. People who
(23:11):
lost out on high school, people who lost out on
prom and sports games and social life and were suck
watching TikTok and Instagram are the most right wing generations
since the Greatest generation that fought World War two. I
don't think that it could be underestimated right now how
badly COVID really affect him.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
And I'll say one other thing.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
The population loss that happened in COVID, in Chicago, in
LA in New York that were supposed to result in
dozens of House seats lost them in twenty thirty, that's
probably been in half now, Like the amount of seats
that were going to lose is half of what they're
probably going to lose because mass immigration has replaced the
Americans that left. People have been moving to those places.
(23:54):
Mass immigration stops Democrats from feeling the actual fallout from
their failed policies. And I don't think that can be
expressing of it. And it's not just illegal immigration, it
is legal immigration. It needs to be emphasized over and
over and over again, how badly legal immigration keeps the
Democratic Party propped up. They would probably losing three to
four seats in New York in the next redistricting, and
(24:17):
four to five in California, and they're probably going to
lose two to three in Niche now.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Which is of course the entire point of filling up
your country with barbarians.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Cancel out the.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
American patriot, who's your mortal enemy if you're a Democrat?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Okay, Ryan, before I let you go.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Why should I give a crap about New Jersey Other
than the fact that I have friends there and they
have delicious sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You should give a crap about New Jersey because it's
going to be America's next swing state. And if it
becomes America's next swing state and Republicans have a chance
of winning it, there is no chance of a Democratic
president becoming going to the whitest again. Republicans have out
registered new voters in New Jersey every single month since
twenty twenty two. They've moved the state has moved to
(25:02):
the right in three consecutive elections presidential, congressional, and goognatorial.
And I think there's a real chance of Republicans. Democrats
lead in New Jersey has gone down by over two
hundred and fifty thousand votes registered Democratic advantage, and it
holds tons of congressional seats, tons of opportunity as far
(25:23):
as making a new purple state for the election. And
Jersey was a consistently Republican state from sixty eight to
eighty eight. It's been democratic for thirty years now, there's
no reason it can't be Republican again.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Ryan, thank you, my brother. All right, Senator Ron Johnson
is going to join us next. I'm hearing some things
I don't like about the budget that's coming. You know,
the Senator is going to have some things to say
about that. We'll talk to him in a moment. Before
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Speaker 2 (26:39):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well, there's a lot going on in Washington, DC right now,
and I understand there's all kinds of shiny objects running
here and there with signal chats and hooties and other
I'm not dismissing any of those things, but kind of
a big deal was the budget and there's apparently I
was texting with a different senator, not Senator Johnson, last night,
(27:09):
and I am not hearing good things about what's coming
from DC. Joining me now, a great senator from the
state of Wisconsin, Senator Ron Johnson, Senator, I know you're
already speaking out about this. The things I found out
last night had me flat out crying in my evening coffee.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
What's happening, Well, you got to tell me why you're
crying at coffee. I actually think we're making some headway
because we've dug our heels in here and let people
know our heels are dug in until we have a realistic,
a reasonable pre pandemic, a spending level, and a commitment
in a process to achieve it.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yes, Senator, but I don't hear that commitment from the House.
I guess I should have clarified. The Senate seems to
be okay. Apparently what landed on your desk from the
House is not good.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
And you know Leader Thun knows full well that he
shouldn't even bring that up for a vote because it
won't even survive the motion proceed And so we had
we had a long conversation. He's fully aware of the
options I've laid out. And again, just to simplify this,
if you take a previous year's outlays, whether it's Clinton
(28:22):
ninety eight, Obama in twenty fourteen, or Trump in twenty nineteen,
leave Social Security, Medicare, and you can even leave Medicaid alone.
Don't touch those. Just spend what we're spending in twenty
twenty five, increase the other total outlayers for those years
by population growth and inflation, you'd have total annual spending
(28:43):
a somewhere between five point five and six point five
trillion dollars. So let's just talk about twenty nineteen. That's
the six point five trillion dollars. Nobody can argue against
the fact that if you spend what we spent in
twenty twenty nine, fully inflated for population growth and inflation,
exempting Social County, Medicare and Medicaid, that that's not a
(29:05):
reasonable proposal. In quite honestly, we should not spend a
dying more than that. And yet the House resolution would
take seven point three trillion, which is what we're spending
this year. Knock off about one hundred and fifty billion,
and say, hell, did we do a great job. And oh,
by the way, we're gonna increase testily by four trillion
dollars that ain't flying in the Senate and now people know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That, Oh praise god.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
How does it build like this? How does the House
which we control, how do they even send something like
this to your desk? I was told one point five
trillion in cuts over ten years, which of course is
the old Washington gimmick that everybody watching understands never actually materializes.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Jesse, we don't.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I come from manufacturing background, right, You don't have a
good product without a good process. We do not have
a good process for controlling spending in washingt d C.
It's obvious, you know, the Budget Act is said teventy
four set up all this insane, all these insane rules
that hasn't worked, the old way of doing things. By
(30:08):
the way, by separating out discretionary spending, which is the
only thing we appropriate appropriate versus mandatory. Only twenty four
percent is actually appropriated now seventy six percent is not
automatic spending. And most people think, well, that's social kitty,
Medicare and Medicaid. No, there's one point three trillion dollars
additional to Social Security, Medicare, and medicaid. It's growing from
(30:30):
six point forty two to one point three trillion dollars
since twenty nineteen. We can do that in reconciliation. So
again I keep hearing my you know, these these brave
members are conference, well, we're acting, we're not serious about
cut cutting spending lists, we're willing to address those entitlements. No,
you can, you can literally ignore those exempt them, and
(30:52):
you can be at no more now that dying more
than six point five trillion dollars. Personally, I would start
with the Clinton budget, which passed seventy seven to twenty
two in the US Senate seventy two. We have current
centators on both sides the out that voted for that. Okay,
you start there at five point five plus up for defense,
that happened four nine to eleven for vets, you're still
(31:12):
no more than six trillion dollars, which, by the way,
was the Senate budget resolution. That was our aspirational goal
in the you know, the border security budget resolution that
we passed. We should have done that. By the way,
we should have broken this down into steps. I think
President Trump got sold a bill of goods by the House.
I think can pass this one big, beautiful bill. I
think that's a pretty risky bet right there, when you
(31:35):
understand the complexity of that and how difficult that's going
to be to pass. So I would still recommend President
Trump abandoned that, embrace the Senate, get him his border security.
The next step would be just extend the current tax code.
Take a massive automatic tax increase off the table, which,
by the way, is there because we blew it in
the Tax Cutting Jobs Act. We allowed these things to
(31:56):
automatically expire. We shouldn't do that. Fix for that, you
just use current policy. There's no score for extending the
current tax law. Okay, So again, again, this place is insane.
I come from the private sector. You know, from my standpoint,
this is an alternate universe.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I can sense your frustration, Senator.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Since we can't clone you, how do we ensure that
future senators ten years from now, twenty years from now,
how do we ensure that we can get any kind
of physical sanity? Is there a solution? Is it a
balanced budget amendment? Is there any rule you can put
into place? Or as long as we send politicians to DC,
they're going to find a way to jack taxpayer money
(32:40):
and hand it out to their friends.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
If you're taling constants them and I would limit spending
to a certain stent of GDP. But right now, the
reason I'm pushing this panel, you know, a by camera.
So you have senators, you have House members, you have
members of the administration, probably from OMB sitting on a
budget view panel, and you bring up the department heads,
the secretaries, the CFOs, and you go line by line,
(33:06):
twenty four hundred lines in the twenty twenty five budget.
You go line by line and just have the people explain. So, so,
why is this line item, you know, one billion dollars
higher than twenty nineteen, fully inflated for population and inflation.
Why is it a billion dollars over that level? Oh
(33:27):
you can't explain it. Well, you're not going to get
that extra billion dollars cut that account. You do that
twenty four hundred times. I'm not saying there's a billion
dollars in each one of those expenditure lines. But if
there was, that'd be two point four trillion dollars a
year savings. Again, that's you don't have a billion each line.
But you go line by line. Do you put in
the work? Jesse, We never look at seventy six percent
(33:50):
of the budget. It's an automatic pilot. You start there
and bring it all in so at least we're looking
at it, but look at it line by line. And
just like in the private sector and anybody who's ever
been in management and had to go in front of
a budget review committee, you know, if you're beating your numbers,
it's pretty comfortable meeting. If you're not beating your numbers,
it's not going to be pleasant. And as I keep saying,
(34:11):
in the private sector, this would be easy if I
would have told my managers, hey, listen, I'll let you
increase your budget based on the number of customers you
serve and inflation.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Six years later, if I come back and go, hey,
you're ten percent over that, what are you doing? If
I don't fire you, I'm going to make sure that
you dial back your spending to at least you know
what I directed you to so again.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
To me, this is such low hanging fruit.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
This is painless, quite honestly, other than the fact you
had to go line by line and get these again,
all the departments heads justifying twenty four hundred lines of expenditures.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's work.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
It's work. I appreciate you very much and what you're doing. Senator,
thank you. Please keep it up. I mean, sense is frustration.
Ron Johnson's like the nicest guy I know. He's ready
to kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Anyway. We have more.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Next here, we have a presidential memorandum for your attention.
This memorandum requires the immediate declassification of all FBI files
relating to the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. This was obviously one
of the instances of the weaponization of law enforcement powers
of prosecution against you and others. We believe that it's
long pastime for the American people to have a full
(35:34):
and complete understanding of what exactly is in.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Those files, which gives the media the right to go
in and go and check it. You probably won't bother
because you're not going to like what you say.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
What are they going to see?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Crossfire Hurricane seems like I've heard of that before joining
me now to discuss it and where we might be
going from here. Hans Monkey, author of the book Swift
Voting America, which I would highly recken. Okay, Hans, refresh
my memory. There's too many scandals, too many news stories.
Crossfire Hurricane, what is it? Why are we declassifying things?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
So?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Crossfire Hurricane was the investigation into the Trump campaign that
was opened in July of twenty sixteen by James Comy
and his cabal, and that carried on all the way
into May of twenty seventeen when the Muller people took over.
So we're looking at about a year's worth of materials.
Now a lot of them have been released already. So
(36:33):
this is kind of what I'm expecting this to be,
is kind of filling gaps, tying up loose ends, kind
of things like that. Now, when you look at the
order that President Trump signed, it actually has some more
details about it refers to a list of things that's
going to be released. So they kind of made it
sound like everything is going to be released, but it's
not going to be quite everything is. There's a list.
(36:54):
It's it's called the so called Binder. It was actually
meant to be released President Trump's first term, but then
Mark Meadows kind of stopped that from happening, the chief
of staff at the time. No one quite understands why
that happened. But anyway, I think we're finally now at
the point where we will see this binder, which is
(37:16):
going to contain hopefully a lot of juicy information on
that cross Fire Hurricane investigation.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
OS.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
What do we believe from all this, because look, you're
never going to convince me that Barack Obama didn't authorize
all these things, but that's what I believe.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
What do you believe?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Well, I believe that too. And the sad part about
this release and I'm not trying to kind of kind
of denigrade it or whatever. I'm always happy when stuff
is released.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
This is good.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
But the sad part is we're only talking cross Fire
Hurricane and only FBI, and the Barack Obama part doesn't
pertain to cross Fire Hurricane and FBI. Now specifically, we
know that Obama was briefed by the CIA in July
of twenty sixteen, that is, before this investigation opened, and
he was briefed on the fact that this was all
(38:04):
Hillary Clinton's idea that this was Hillary Clinton's campaign a
dirty trick, that she was the one who orchestrated it,
that she was the one who decided to paint Donald
Trump as a Russian agent. So Obama then instead of
shutting it down, he escalated it, he weaponized it. So
he's completely behind it. Now. The problem is all the
documents pertaining to that are CIA documents, and those are
(38:24):
the ones I'd like to see.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, that sure would be interesting to know if America's
foremost intelligence agency was involved in trying to stop the
Republican nominee for president, that would be kind of a
big deal. Anyway, Hans, let's shift gears. Michael Walls is
on Fox News with all this signaled chat stuff saying
things like this today, so.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
They want to focus on this. It's embarrassing. Yes, we're
going to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We have.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
I just talked to Elon on the way here. We've
got the best technical minds looking at how this happened.
But I can tell you, I can tell you for
one hundred percent. I don't know this guy. I know
him by his horrible reputation and he really is the
bottom scum of journalists. Uh, And I know him in
the sense that he hates the president.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
But I don't text him.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
He went on my phone.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
And we're going to figure out how this happens. So
you don't know what staffer is responsible for this right now? Well, look,
a staffer wasn't responsible. And look, I take full responsibility.
I built the I built the group to My job
is to make sure everything's coordinated.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
But how did That's acute?
Speaker 7 (39:27):
I mean, I don't mean to be pedantic here, but
how did the number?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Have you ever had?
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name
and then you have an and then you have somebody else? Right,
you've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact. So
of course I didn't see this loser in the group.
It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it
deliberately or it happened in some other technical means something
we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Okay, Hans, look like I, Like I said earlier today,
we made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
It's a huge mistake. I'm ready to move on.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
But that and there is honestly a little bit confusing
to me. It's my chat. I created it. It definitely
wasn't a staffer. I also don't know the guy. We're
investigating how he was added. Look, Jeffrey Goldberg maybe a
weapons great scumbag, but he's also not Jason Bourne. It
didn't add himself to the chat. Someone did.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Yeah, No, I completely agree with you there. I think
it was a mistake going on Fox News. It's generally
a mistake going on any news show, or on any
show or or you know, to do with if you're
in a legal situation to talk to anyone unless and
until you have your story straight. And he obviously didn't
have a story straight, and so I guess he was
sent in there to kind of clean up the mess,
(40:41):
and frankly, he made the mess even worse because, as
you say, now it is sort of innuendo with Elon
and hacking and this and that. And I agree it
makes no sense what they should have done and what
appears to have happened here, and I agree with you
is someone screwed up. Whether it was Waltz himself or
one of his people, someone screwed up. Someone got the
wrong numbers, the wrong name in there, and then you know,
(41:04):
things took their course from there. So they should just
own up, just said we screwed up. We shouldn't have
put this guy in there. We thought it was another JG.
You know, that Goldberg whatever there was. There's a the
US trade representative. He's called Greer. Maybe it was him,
I don't know, but just just say it that you
know there was someone else JG. And they just got
messed up. They screwed up, and it won't happen again.
(41:26):
And then don't talk about it anymore. What's the what
was the point in going on that Fox News show
and today as well? They just keep talking about it.
Just say you own up to the mistake, and then
just don't talk about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting frush. I've been frustrated the entire time.
I'm frustrated no one was fired. Now I'm frustrating they're
still talking about it. I do not think the trub
administration has handled this well at all.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Big, big, big screw up, and I don't like it
at all.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Okay, moving past that, Uh, there's a judicial coup going
on in the country where communist judges are stopping every
meetul thing that Trump administration tries to do. I know
how I want it handled, Hans, How do you want
it handled?
Speaker 6 (42:07):
It's a difficult one. Now I'm going to where my
lawyer's hat here. I don't fully disagree with the idea
that judges should have the right to issue these sweeping injunctions,
but of course in very particular circumstances. So the government
starts rounding up anyone with Japanese heritage, you know, like
they did seventy eighty years ago, that's when you need
(42:30):
these people to step in. But of course that so
that's the initial idea behind it, and then of course
it's been completely abused and now they just step in
at any juncture and so on. So ultimately I think
it's going to have to change. That means the court,
the district court at the lowest level, will have to
get its wings clipped. And I think what will have
to happen is that they will need to be told
so that the Supreme Court will need to step in,
(42:52):
and hopefully they do it at some point. You know,
they've been kind of dragging their feet, and just outline
the circumstances in which the district courts, the lowest level
of the courts, can step in and what they can do.
So for starters, they should only be able to act
on behalf of some clients that they actually have. So
for instance, in this case of these Venezuelan gang members,
(43:12):
there was actually five clients, and the government actually did
everything as asked of them by the courts in relation
to these five clients. The problem is that this judge
Boseburg then kind of made it more sweeping. He said, well,
it's not the five before me. Yes, but I'm gonna
just apply to everyone. And that's a big problem where
it's become a big problem. So I think the Supreme
(43:34):
Court will just have to step in and kind of
put in some boundaries, put in some some offenses here
to make this more clear. Now, I'm not confident, not
very confident that that will happen, because we got Roberts
on the court and of course Amy Cony Barrett, so
it's kind of more of a five to four liberal
court than it is a six' to three conservative, court
as we're always. Told SO i think ultimately what will
(43:57):
happen is that they The Supreme court will rein in
some of these abuses but not. Others they'll kind of
take a pick and choose, approach and they're probably not
going to clip the wings of these courts in any
kind of long term fashion.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Bonds as, Always thank, you my. Friend all, right lighten
the mood. Next all, right it's time to lighten the.
Mood AND i have just been so so happy lately
(44:36):
with What i've seen from The Democrat party because here's the.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Truth we have control right.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Now we have The, house we have The, senate we
have the, presidency and The american people Are they're generally
going to chafe against whoever is in. Control that's why
that's why the party in control generally loses so many
seats in the. Midterms the second someone else takes, over
The american people choose somebody, new they eventually get tired of,
them and then they switch and they go back the other.
(45:03):
Way but we have people Like Maxine waters who just
continue to remind The american people why they were rejected
to begin.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
With if he, was Is god looking so closely to
find those who were born here and their parents were.
Undocumented maybe out of person that Getting milannia. Out we
don't know whether or not our parents will, documented and
maybe we'd better just take a.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Look milania's parents were, legal by the, Way malania is,
legal but none of that. Matters that's just so wonderful for.
Us please keep, talking all of.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
YOU i appreciate. It we'll see them all
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