May 2, 2025 • 46 mins
Jesse Kelly pulls no punches as he exposes the alarming misuse of America’s judicial system. From activist judges to politicized rulings, Jesse uncovers how the courts are being weaponized to undermine justice and erode public trust. He tackles recent controversies, including questionable Supreme Court decisions and the manipulation of legal processes for political gain, revealing the devastating impact on the rule of law. Joined by sharp-witted guests, Jesse delivers unfiltered analysis and bold solutions to restore integrity to America’s courts. Tune in for a fiery, no-nonsense takedown of the forces threatening the heart of our justice system!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Okay, real quick, let's address this. Mike Walls, Alex Wong
being out, Trump dismisses, fires two members of his national
security team. I know that everybody's gonna cloak everything. And
while he resigned, he stepped away. Everybody knows what happened here.
He was fired. Trump fired him. I talked about the
necessity for this a while ago. Remember when I talked
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about it. Mike Walls, if he is the responsible party,
and I think we could probably guess that by now.
Who's been on this show, and I have nothing personal
against Mike Walls should be fired and fired immediately.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It should serve as a lesson to everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
In this administration that accidents, mistakes, they're not good enough.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It won't work. We only have four years.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
We have to move a breakneck speed speed and purpose
getting done. Boo boos like that can sink us. It's
he's gone, all right, But it is what it is.
This is how things need to happen. It's a harsh world,
it's a harsh life.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Stakes of the game are high. That's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Now, onto something else before we get to these judges
really quickly. In fact, Elvis Chan is going to lead
us right to these judges. Elvis Chan, you remember Elvis Chan.
Elvis Chan was the guy who was liaising we use
that wonderful professional term with Facebook other social media companies
on behalf of the FBI to ensure Hunter Biden's laptop
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story was censored and the American people can't see it.
He took his position as special agent at the FBI
and used it to try to help Joe Biden win
an election.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I was calling for his head a while ago.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I believe everything that comes out of the DOJ, FBI, everywhere,
I believe all of it is a lie. I think
I'm being lied to at all times. And if you
would like to earn back my trust, so I believe
you ever again about anything, you will arrest that human being.
He will put him through a public trial for violating
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the civil rights of Americans, for violating abusing his post
at the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And as soon as
the cell door closes on Elvis Chan, as he'll be
as he begins his thirty year prison sentence in Fort Leavenworth,
then you will start to earn back a little bit
of my trust. Okay, well this isn't that, but it's
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a start, something to celebrate. He's been placed on terminal leave.
They fired him a probably probably, we don't know all
the details yet, still going to collect a government check, retirement.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Things like that. So is this enough? No, it's not
near enough.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But if this is step one to putting that evil
secret state police henchmen behind.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Bars, good.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
If this is the end of it, then it's not good,
then it's pathetic. But if this is the start in it,
very well, maybe I say that's a good thing. And
people must go to prison, because of course we're going
to be talking a lot about the judges tonight, the
judicial system, and judges have to go to prison before
we get to the specific.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Judges and things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Remember this communism is revolutionary, always has been, always was.
It's a revolutionary religion. It believes that it has to
tear down the existing structures, the existing power structures, existing institutions.
It's revolutionary. And because it's revolutionary, it involves breaking the law.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It always has.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's going to break whatever existing laws are there in
whatever country it's trying to have a revolution, and you
have to if you're having a revolution, you can't have
a revolution and be lawful about it, right, So communists
are always breaking the law. They lie, they murder, they
hurt people, they burn things. This is how communists act
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because they're revolutionaries, and that's how they justified in their mind.
But something kept happening as the communists globally kept trying
to get their movement into place and country after country
after country.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It wasn't just Russia. These people were.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Always trying in France and Germany and Italy and America.
You know, they kept running into the institutions. They kept
slamming into them, mainly the law enforcement institutions. Here in
the United States of America. We had so many radical
communist groups who wanted to murder everybody and burn everything down,
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groups like the Weather Underground. But they kept running into
the law. They kept getting arrested for their crimes. Hey,
you can't arrest me. It was just a nail bomb.
They kess had to go back to the drawing board,
and they figured out, hey, if we keep running into
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the justice system in America, if they keep stopping us,
if that wall keeps stopping the revolution, why don't we
just take over the justice system. And so credit to them.
For years and years and years and years and years,
America's communists have taken over the law schools of this country.
In those law schools they educate generation after generation after
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generation of lawyers, and of course the lawyers become judges.
In communist and doctrination, the belief that communism is great,
Democrats are wonderful, Republicans are evil, and these foot soldiers
go out into the legal world and they use whatever
positions of power they can find to push and protect
the communist revolution. Exhibit A great one would be the
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judge in New Mexico. A judge in New Mexico who.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Was caught and photographed photographed with a gang, a foreign
prison gang member living with him and his wife.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Judge Cano seemed to be former Judge Cano got. He
got his charges were just unsealed. He's charged with obstruction.
He is charged. He admitted posts Miranda, he took one
of the TDA member's cell phones himself, took it, beat
it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked the
pieces to a city dumpster to dispose of it to
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protect him. The wife also is charged with destroying evidence.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Sandra.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Not only that this TDA member and he had on
a necklace that said kill, something about death. He had
tattoos all over him. He also had on his cell
phone pictures of two decapitated victims. The judge and his
wife gave him assault rifles that belonged to their daughter.
That's what they're charged with the in the criminal report
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OFFI David. He goes to a shing range with these
assault rifles with a suppressor, with other known TDA members
and their shooting. This is the last person that we
want in our country, nor will we ever tolerate a
judge or anyone else harboring them.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
The judge doesn't see himself as a judge, probably most
likely has never really seen himself as a judge. He's
always been a communist revolutionary. Communist revolutionaries know the increase
in violent crime helps the revolution, So that judge worked
his way up through the legal system and put on
those judges' robes so he could push the revolution, protect
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the revolution.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You see, this Dugan is no different. Remember this judge
Dugan in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Remember this judge who got got arrested because she did
what Now there was an illegal in her courtroom. She
found out that illegal was about to be deported. She
grabbed him and his lawyer pulled him into her private
chambers and whisked him out the back door so he
could escape arrest and deportation. To a normal person, when
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they hear these stories, their mind just gets completely blown.
But I understand perfectly what's going on. You see, Hannah
Dugan is not a judge.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's a that's.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
A uniform she wears. You know, what uniform isn't even
the right word. It's a costume. She puts on a
costume as a judge. Hannah Dugan's a communist.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
The law is a real challenge in making sure that
justice happens for people. It's transformative in people's lives, but
it also, especially the United States, is considered a stabilizing force.
It's something that keeps us on a constant path. The
rule of law is how we address our social issues
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and how we dress our disputes, but also how we
grow as people. I as a person who for a
couple decades almost represent and low income people. It is
due process that really equalizes those differences between people. Then
we're able to achieve that equal justice that we are
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promised and hope to have continue despite our differences, despite
our class differences, despite our racial and religious differences.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Is that a judge just up there interpreting the law,
administering justice.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Is that how she sees herself? Of course not.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It's not a judge, that's a costume. He's a communist.
These judges are all across the country, and we should
pause on this really quickly and talk just for a
brief moment about why these judges are all over the country.
It's not just because Democrats are equal communists. It's because
Republicans are weak empathetic, and they're too weak and pathetic
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to actually stand up and any of this madness. If
you'd like to know why you have judges in place
all across the country who are communist revolutionaries stopping the
Trump administration, allow me to introduce to you to Senator
John Cornyan.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
This sounds like a case of misplaced sympathy by those
who who are somehow saying the judge is being treated unfairly.
Unfortunately in Washington, DC, you have these competing narratives and
people back home in Texas and elsewhere wonder you know
what the truth is. But so far, based on what
we know, based on your report, it looks to me
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like the judge had misplaced sympathies, and rather than enforcing
the law on partially as she should have, was actively
aiding and abetting and an i legal immigrant to avoid
the enforcement of the law.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Let me tell you something, that way of thinking, that
way of speaking, has done as much to bring about
the communist evolution of this country as the communists themselves.
The people we elect, hoping they'll go back and fight
against them, make excuses for them. Essentially, people like John
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Cornyn have been in Washington, d c. For a long
time holding the door open so we can't slam it shut,
letting as many communists through misplaced sympathies. This pathetic weakness
is why we are where we are. Don't speak like that.
Speak like Trump speaks about these judges. Trump knows exactly
what he's dealing with now.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
We cannot allow a handful of communists, radical of judges
to obstruct the enforcement of our laws and assume the
duties that belong solely to the President of the United States.
Judges are trying to take away the power given to
the president to keep our country safe. And it's not
a good thing.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
But I.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Hope for the sake of our country that the Supreme
Court is going to save this because we have to
do something. These people are just looking to destroy our country.
Nothing will stop me in the mission to keep America
safe again. It's very simple, keep America safe again.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So why hasn't the Supreme Court stepped in? They?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Could you realize that for one hundred days into the
Trump presidency, these judges have been acting this way for
the entire one hundred days.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Why haven't they stepped in? Why hasn't John.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Roberts stepped up put a stop to these ridiculous judges.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Why can't he see what's happening.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Why can't he see that his own legitimacy, the legitimacy
of the Supreme Court, is evaporating day by day. You
have people like me already saying ignore the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Why won't he step in?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, the truth is, we forget this that judges, even
Supreme Court, when's they're flesh and blood, human beings. They
have loves, they have fears, they have families. Why do
you think democrats routinely speak like this?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Now? I want to tell you, Gorzach.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
I want to tell you Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And you will pay the price.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
You won't know what hit you if you go forward
with these awful decisions.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Right after that video, and assassin flew from California with
a gun to blow Bret Kavanaugh's head off, got arrested
just in time outside of his home. Maybe the Supreme
Court understands democrats are threatening their lives.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
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Speaker 10 (15:16):
I mean, I think when you start looking at how
the judge was treated after the events that led to
the charge, So where and when and how she was arrested,
and the fact that she was arrested at the courthouse
rather than her own residence, The fact that she was
placed in a jail cell for hours before her arraignment
was called in the court later in the afternoon.
Speaker 11 (15:36):
These things are unprecedented. Typically, upstanding members of the community
who have no criminal history and aren't accused of a
violent act are allowed to self surrender at the time
of their arraignment. The fact that they did not offer
that courtesy to her and instead went out of.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Their way to treat her harshly.
Speaker 11 (15:55):
I believe is an active, performative cruelty on behalf of
the Department of Justice, which is not the way any
Department of Justice should be acting.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, I remember how Peter Navarro got arrested. I remember
that fat old man in Utah who had to use
a cane to get around. He didn't even get arrested.
They just flat out showed up and gunned him down.
But I guess it's unprecedented. Joining me now, my friend's CEO,
co founder of the Wonderful Federalist, Sean Davis. Hey, Sean,
it's unprecedented that they would arrest her a public Gosh,
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I can't believe this well.
Speaker 12 (16:30):
I mean, first off, Andrew McCabe should be sharing a
cell with her. The fact that that guy is out
walking free after lying under oath repeatedly about his activities
in the Russia Gate collusion hoax is absurd. But like
like you, I've been alive for the last you know,
five ten years. I remember peaceful j sixers charged with misdemeanors,
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having people come with guns raided at dawn to raid
their homes in dark. So this idea that it's unprecedented,
McCabe and all his friends were doing the same nonsense
against their political enemies for years, and instead of trying
to block it, he was cheering it on. And sorry
to say, they're at the find out stage now of
the rule of law. They're sewing and we're reaping. And
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the only thing that makes it better is how sad
they are about it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
These people thought they were going to hold power forever, right, Sean.
It's very obvious the way they conducted themselves under Joe Biden,
they just thought it was never going to end, which
blows it just completely blows me away.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It baffles the mind.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But they operate as if they will never ever ever
be the ones on the receiving end of this stuff.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
Yeah, and you know, to a certain extent, you almost
have to defend that assumption because we know what Republicans
looked like in Washington and how they ruled and how
cowardly they were before Donald Trump showed up, So like
they can almost be forgiven for assuming that Republicans will
just like lie back and let Democrats do it they
whatever they want. But it's a new era now and
the ride is not the same ride as it was
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ten or fifteen or twenty years ago. We've seen what
they've done. We understand. Look, we wanted a certain set
of rules that applied to everyone. They rejected that. So
now they get their own rules, good and hard, and
thankfully Donald Trump understands the importance of doing that. You
can't have two systems of justice. So we either were
going to have ours where everyone is treated normally and
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everyone gets the right protections and is treated with dignity,
or we are going to get what the left did
to us for years. And that's what they're getting. And
if they don't like.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It, tough, Sean. Talk to me about Judge Boseburg. He's
been all over the news. He just, by a miracle
from God on I happens to get all these cases
that's supposed to be random. He happens to get all
them dropped in his lap. And of course he's a
communist revolutionary. We don't have to mince words about the
whole thing. But who is this guy? Where did he
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come from?
Speaker 12 (18:49):
Yeah, it's fascinating. He's been on the bench for a
long time. He was actually on the FISA court while
Andrew McCabe's FBI was illegally spying on Donald Trump and
his campaign. So Bosberg, who sat back and watched that happen,
to go and then magically get these cases which weren't
randomly assigned. They were supposed to go to a particular
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emergency judge who is on duty when a lot of
these cases came in. We know he intervened and made
sure that he got the case because he wanted to
make himself a left wing judicial hero. And what he's
doing is nothing less than judicial tyranny, judicial insurrection. He's
taken powers that don't belong to him, he's exercising authorities
that no one gave to him, and he's all but
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daring Trump to come and ignore him, which, by the way,
I hope he does sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Sean, the Supreme Court everyone knows they should step in.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Trump has said they should step in. I'm sure that.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Look, I've talked about it before. But if they don't,
what do we do. Look, it's one thing to say, well,
Justice Roberts needs to step in and stop these judges.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But if they don't, are we just done?
Speaker 12 (19:57):
No, we're not. In the comparison I would use is
I would compare the Supreme Court's credibility to Fiat currency
It's like the little pieces of paper we carry around
with dead presidents and some non presidents on them. Those
only have value because we all assume they have value.
It's not based on gold. It's not based on the
inherent value of the piece of paper. We assume it
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has value, and so therefore we impute it to it value.
The Supreme Court's credibility relies on the same types of assumptions.
The Supreme Court has no army, it has no ability
to declare war, it has no battalions it controls. It
doesn't control the purse, it can't appropriate money. All it
has is the assumption on behalf of the people and
the two other branches that it is worth listening to
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and following. And so the longer that this goes on,
with John Roberts allowing the circus to continue, the more
likely it is that we all just decide, you know what,
when it comes to the President or Congress, you actually
don't have the power to do anything if we don't
acknowledge it. So we're going to steam roll you and
ignore you, and you can write all the fun little
opinions and paper that you want, but at the end
of the day, if no one believes that you have
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the authority to do what you're doing, then you truly
have no authority to do anything, and you're meaningless. And
I think in the long run that would be bad
for people to get to that point. But they're making
it inevitable. It's not Donald Trump making this inevitable. It
is the fecklessness and the cowardice of the Supreme Court
doing nothing that's going to make it inevitable if they
continue down this road.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Sean, this is why they threatened these people. This is
why it's not just Chuck Schumer. Everyone saw that little tidbit.
We played it in the opening. Everyone's seen it before.
Democrat after Democrat has.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Threatened these judges.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We've had multiple protests in front of their homes. We
had an assassin a come very very close to actually
killing Brett Kavanaugh. This wasn't done accidentally made these people
be afraid. Amy Cony Barratt just had a bomb threat
for her sister.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
The left, that's what it's doing.
Speaker 12 (21:53):
Yeah, and this is the same intimidation game they played
with John Roberts back and I think it was twenty
twelve with the Obamacare decision stood it was unconstitutional. He
knew that Congress and Obama didn't have the authority to
do what they did, but because he got intimidated and
the New York Times said some mean things about him,
he switched his vote as at the last minute. And
that's basically defined his entire tenure as Chief Justice and
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as a member of the Supreme Court. He's a coward
who can be bullied around. Personally, I think that a
lot of what he has said that he cares about
the legitimacy of the Court and this and that, I
think that's just a smoke screen for he wants to
be in charge, he wants to make certain decisions, and
when he gets to do what he wants, the Court
is protecting its legitimacy, and that when he doesn't want
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to do something he doesn't want, he couches it in
the same language. I think these people, really, I think
they're just cowards. I don't think it's more complicated than that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Let's shift gears really quickly and talk about this guy.
Speaker 13 (22:52):
I was very involved our field office FBI San Francisco
was very involved in helping to protect the US elections
in twenty twelve.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
And I think we can.
Speaker 13 (23:02):
All agree or I think many of us can agree
that it was a very safe election. We talked with
all of these entities I mentioned regularly, at least on
a monthly basis, and right before the election, probably on
a weekly basis. Right, if they were seeing anything unusual,
if we were seeing anything unusual, sharing intelligence with technology companies,
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with social media companies so that they could protect their
own platforms.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Right, why is Elvis Chan not in prison? I'm happy
he's on leave.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Why not prison?
Speaker 12 (23:36):
Yeah, I had the exact same question. You beat me
to it. This guy was a key part of an
illegal censorship effort during an election that a time when
we should all be able to speak freely more than
any other time because the stakes, He in his corrupt
agency were out there telling these social media companies that
the Hunter laptop, a Hunter bind laptop, was faked, that
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it was Russian disinformation, when they had known for more
than a year that that was a lie. So, yeah,
he should be in handcuffs, not on television. He should
not be on leave. He should have been frog marched
out of that building in handcuffs, awaiting indictment for what
he and his entire garbage agency did to this country
over years so I don't have a good answer for you.
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Hopefully somebody somewhere does, or maybe they're working on it
and they just haven't gotten to it yet.
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Speaker 11 (25:49):
The idea that no person is above the law is
a bedrock principle of American justice.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
No man is above the law, no matter what the crime.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And I agree with you. No, no man, it's above
the law. And no person is above the law. No
one is above the law. No one is above the law.
No one's above the law. No one is above the law.
Speaker 12 (26:05):
No man is above the law. Nobody is above the law.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
No one is above the law.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
The law.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
He has to be held accountable. It's not above the law.
No one's above the law.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Either that nor any other title puts you above the
rule of law.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I miss those days. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now? My friend Josh Hammer, host of the Josh Hammer Show. Hey, Josh,
nobody is above the law, man.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I love watching these judges in handcuffs. It does my
heart well, Jesse.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
I mean, ever since Alvin Bragg trotted out there with
that ridiculous thirty four count indictment against Eland Trump on
the Stormy Daniels Michael Conn I mean, it really feels
like a whole nother lifetime ago, doesn't it. But ever
since then, for the following year and a half, how
many Democrats got up there and said exactly what this
montage just showed. No one is above the law. It
is incumbent upon us to hold all of us to
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the same legal standard. By the way, signe note, I
don't think leftist Jesse know where this notion of no
one above the law. I don't think they understand where
that actually comes from. That's actually from the Bible, in fact,
the English common law which famously said that the king
is not above the law. The common lawyer who wrote
that into the common law was literally citing the Hebrew Bible,
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the Book of Deuteronomy when he cited it. So kind
of kind of funny how the left doesn't realize when
they're signed the Bible. And that's just a hole aside here.
The point for our purposes is what a bunch of
galling hypocrites, I mean, what a bunch of stinking, raging, smelly,
looney tuny hypocrites. Here, no one is about the law
until it is their own person who is shielding an
illegal alien, who is obstructing the ICE agents attempt to
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arrest this leegal lal. And that's what happened of course
with Hannah Dugan and Wisconsin, until their own person is
purportedly not about the law. Well, that's when that judge
actually is about the law. By the way, another point
on this judge in Wisconsin, O Jesse, though we're dealing
here with a stakehorep judge who is accused and seems
to me quite obviously did via federal law. You know,
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the Democrats have a long and inglorious history in this country,
Jesse of trying to pretend that federal law has to
bend the need to state law. Last I checked, Democrats
fought an entire civil war, in the entire nineteenth century.
We lost a lot of people to defend the principle
that federal law is supreme to state law. It's actually
right there in the Constitution, Article six. It's the supremacist
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cause very clearly says this Constitution, all laws pass pursuing
there too, are the supreme law of the land. So
what you're seeing here it's not just hypocrisy. It's also
the rise of what I like to refer to as
a neo Confederate sentiment, because they're basically just making the
same arguments about how federal law is not actually supreme,
at least as it applies to their friends. It's definitely
supreme when it applies to their enemies. But they're saying
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that it's not supreme. And that's basically the same argument
in many ways that John C. Calhoun and anti Bellum
pre Civil War slaveholders made. So you know, history has
a way of repeating itself, Jesse. And that's also what
we're seeing play out here in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
What's that quote?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
For my friends everything for my enemies the law. It's
pretty obvious what the game is here, Josh. As soon
as they have control of the law, they want to
use it to throw their political political opponents in prison.
As soon as we have control of it, well then
it's a constitutional crisis. Of course, if any one of
these vile little scumbags gets arrested and thrown into prison.
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It just for normal people, Josh. It's so eye popping
to see a judge whisk away and illegal out the
back of her private chambers to avoid arrest. Honestly, it's
so in your face it's amazing.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
I mean, the brazenness of this is really just next level, right,
I mean, when I first read this headline, Jesse, I
mean might jaw like physically dropped. I was like, I mean,
this judge didn't what I mean, like, what the heck
just happened here? And by the way, just to illustrate here,
I think this is probably a helpful example. So they're
saying that this judge is above the law, because how
dare Donald Trump had the temerity the hoot spot and
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his FBI agents, his brown shirts, his jack boots, how
dare they arrest a judge here? So we're talking about
state court judge here. Let's say hypothetically that a state
court judge walked into the local tavern, into local pub
in town there because the judge found out that his
wife was having an affair. And let's say that the
judge found the guy that his wife was sleeping with,
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took out his revolver and shot that guy dead in
the head. There, would the left really say that that
judge cannot be prosecuted. I mean, this example just gives
away the game here, which is they're talking point that
a judge in this case is above the law is
just so transparently stupid. And it is so transparently stupid
because it has everything to do with the fact that
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they simply do not want federal immigration law enforce. That
is obviously the end all be all here. Democrats have
been fighting against federal immigration law for quite literally decades.
That it is the entire purpose of sanctuary city, sanctuary jurisdictions,
sanctuary states, and so forth. There they have no interest
in a body by immigration law at best. At worst,
they have every interest in the world and actively subverting it.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
There.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
But as you said, the number one takeaway for me
from this whole Hannah Dugan affair in Wisconsin is exactly
the quote that you said, which is for my friends
anything for my enemies the law.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Josh, how's Donald Trump handling packing the lower courts? And
so obvious? The Biden administration was very purposeful. To their credit,
give your enemy credit where it's due. They're very purposeful
about getting their little communists in robes and places of
power all across the country.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
How are we doing well?
Speaker 12 (31:27):
Nothing yet.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
There has not been a single judicial nominee announced, But
I'm told that it's it literally could be any day.
In fact, if it happens tomorrow, I would not be surprised.
I mean, it literally is is any day at this
at this point. Now it's not necessarily the administration's fault.
I mean Democrats chucktioning where they've they've been pulling out
all the procedural parliamentary tactic stunts in the sense to
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basically slowed down the executive branch confirmation schedule. There But
by the end, by middle to end of this month,
really based on my calculations and based on my sources,
the Executive brandch really should have all of its high
to mid level officials in place. Not everyone, because there's
a bit of a backlog at PPO that's getting a
little bit in the weeds. But the point is, by
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mid to late May, we should have we should have
a situation where where the trudministration feels satisfied that most
of its top ranking, most important political appointees are in place.
At that point, Jesse, it's time to get the it's
really time to kind of get the gears of motion
when it comes to stacking not just Article two but
Article three. And there are indeed dozens and dozens of
current judicial vacancies, most of them are on federal trial course,
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but every federal judge ship these days is important, especially
in today's post constitutional era of judicial supremacy run a
mock there. So I've got a lot of thoughts and
what we should be looking for when it comes to
judicial nominees, and I'm optimistic that the administration will hopefully
listen to this of it.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, well, what are those thoughts and are they listening?
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Well?
Speaker 9 (32:48):
I think they are, you know, will we will see
when the proof is in the pudding. But I guess
I will just say this, Jesse, so you know, you
know I'm on the halfs that we are these days.
Is I'm senior counselor at the Article three Project where
my good friend Mike Davis is the found during president
there and we had argle three project think that we
are going to have a lot of outside friendly influence
when it comes I'm not saying that word the masterminds here,
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We're not the puppets. Obviously, those decisions are ultimately made
by President Trump himself. He has the White House Counsel's Office,
the Office Legal Policy. There's a lot of moving parts
of the judicial nominations apparatus. But I am inclined to
believe that this second Trump administration is going to be
a little more aggressive, a little more assertive, and frankly
just less afraid to pick people who are overtly ready
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and willing to get their hands dirty. So jesse real quick,
I have a new essay for Tom Klintstein dot com.
Basically four things that I am personally looking for when
it comes to trying to vet judicial nominees in this
second Trump term. The first thing is just do the reading.
Make sure that they actually have a spotless record, and
the past Conservatives have simply failed to do the reading.
Sometimes we've been surprised when we should not have been
surprised because there might have been a black mark back
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in the judicial opinion from fifteen years ago that we
just missed. That's number one. Number two is vet for
full spectrum across the board conservatism. I am sick of
the libertarian and corporatiss pansies who just obsess over economic
size of government issues while not saying a darn word
or caring about things like sovereignty, borders, life, transgenderism, LGBT, religion,
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I mean a lot of the cultural issues.
Speaker 12 (34:14):
That's number two.
Speaker 9 (34:15):
Number three, kind of going down the list here, arguably
arguably most important is you have to try to vet
for judges, especially at the Supreme Court level. If we
get a Spreme Court vacancy who are ready willing and
able to use all of the tools at their disposal.
They have to they have to be willing to actually
vote for a rist of serch you arey and actually
hear difficult cases they are. There have be justices who
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are not going to punt on a difficult case on
so called standing grounds. We've seen Emmy Cony Barrett do
this many many times. For instance. There so that would
be number That'll be point number three. Then point number
four is probably most controversially Jesse, I actually care a
lot about the nominee's private life, like who you married to?
This I call this the spouse test. Is your spouse,
your husband, your wife, as right wing as you are,
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that's the person that you're ultimately going to come back
to at night there, you know, sleeping next to you,
I at your bedside. You better make sure that your
spouse is actually in your corner. I want to know
what kind of house of worship you go to. If
you're going to a rainbow flag church or synagogue, no chance,
I have an automatic qualifier there. So the actual personal
life I care a lot about as well.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I had to go to a concert last weekend at
a church, had a big sign out front the dead,
love is love and black lives matter and all kinds
of coming crap. Couldn't get out of there fast enough. Josh,
my friend, thank you. I appreciate you. I like it.
I like it, And it sounds like we're gearing up.
We got a lot of work to do. We have
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to fill up as many seats, more seats than they
field up.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Anyway, what happens.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
When you let these people take over an area? Have
you paid attention to Minneapolis? Liz call and wonderful investigative
reporter is going to join us next and talk about
some of that.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Hang on.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I sleep so good. I love to sleep. But every
now and then we all go through the same thing.
We had too much caffeine, or too much stress, or something,
got a big day tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'm want to take something to sleep. I'm going to
take something You've done that. We've all done that.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
But what do you take The problem with it is
everything you take to help you sleep, whether it be
over the counter, maybe the doctor wrote your prescription, everything
as you waking up feeling like garbage the next day,
except for the one thing I've found dream powder from
being It's the only thing I've ever found. It's a
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You never know there was anything in it, but it's
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not knock out, You drift off to sleep, and then
you wake up in the morning ready to go feeling
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dot Com slash Jesse Kelly gets you up to forty
percent off, So go save some money. Remember Derek Chauvin
name probably rings the bells, certainly not as famous as
George Floyd. But he was the cop. He was the
cop we all woke up the video, the kneeling to
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everything else.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
He was the cop.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
He's currently in prison, He's already been stabbed in prison.
Was he convicted correctly?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Rightly? Was that justice?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Well, he had a trial, long trial, and at the
end of it he was convicted. Liz Calling, wonderful investigative
reporter for Alpha News, was all over that entire thing. Hey, Liz,
tell me about that trial.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Hey, Jesse, thanks for having me back on. Yeah, the
trial in many ways, as we've reported on, it's almost
as if the script was written before it even began.
Many questionable tactics used by the prosecution and Derek S.
Chauvin's state trial. Also the judge, Judge Peter K. Hill,
who interestingly retired from the bench a couple of years early,
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recently retired as Chauvin's appeal has been has been moving forward.
But you have a jury that was not sequestered during
Derek Chauvin's trial at all. Remember keep in mind this
is probably the most high profile criminal case in Minnesota
state history. Instead, the jury is paraded in and out
of the Henipton County Courthouse every day, lined with concrete
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barriers and fencing, members of the National Guard with their
with their rifles slung over their shoulders. This is These
are all images that that the jury would see each
and each and every day. And many things came to
light about the testimony. Were people telling the truth during
during the testimony? And I know we're going to talk
a little bit more about a defamation case that has
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now been settled and dismissed, where that that part the
truth about testimony. He was really at the heart of
that defamation case. So you're right, law fair certainly alive
and well even now five years later here in Minnesota, Well.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Let's talk about that defamation case right now, let's talk
about the truth, because it's kind of a big deal
of people lie during a trial and a man goes
to prison for it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Who lied?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Well, it's interesting in October alf News and myself we
were sued for the Fall of Minneapolis and my book.
They're lying the media, the left and the death of
George Floyd. The assistant police chief of Minneapolis, Katie Blackwell.
Keep in mind she received a couple of promotions since
her testimony in Chauvin's trials. She's now serving as the
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second in command at the Minneapolis Police Department. But she
went ahead with this defamation lawsuit saying that we lied
about her testimony by putting her own words on camera
in the Fall of Minneapolis specifically, and she says during
that trial that this technique that Chauvin and the other
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officers were using is not something she recognized and it's
not how the Minneapolis Police Department trained. So as part
of this dismissal that we went forward with trying to
ask the judge to throw out this lawsuit. We received
thirty four signed declarations that stated that Katie Blackwell in
(40:23):
fact was lying. Fourteen officers went so far to say
she committed perjury in Derek Chauvin's case. And these thirty
four officers in total said, no, we trained, We absolutely
know what was going on that day. This was the
maximal restraint technique. And ultimately, just a few weeks ago,
the judge dismissed this case against us and really pointed
to the claims that were made in the book, in
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the documentary that in fact, Katie Blackwell was lying on
the stand.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Okay, Liz, help me understand this then, because I'm just
the dumb, uneducated fool here.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
If one of the main.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Witnesses was lying, and now we know, as your documentation proves,
she was lying, and that why helped convict Derek Chauvin
and send him to prison? Why is he still in prison?
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Jesse's an excellent, excellent question. And we continue to keep
people updated on the fall of Minneapolis dot Com if
you click on the news section there, so several things
are now currently happening. We know that Derek Chauvin's new
attorney is using these signs sworn, these signed declarations in
Chauvin's appeal, which is ongoing. We think that is likely
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to be heard in November, perhaps his state appeal that's
going on right now. And there are some things happening
with Katie Blackwell. Complaints that she could be in trouble
from her law enforcement career here now that this is
documented and a judge backs this up. In fact, it
says in this ruling, which was more than fifty pages
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by Judge Edward Wall. This is also in headPan County.
This is a judge and county where this case was dismissed.
But under the facts, it is possible to interpret Blackwell's
testimony as incomplete or misleading by omission. And there's ten
different references in that ruling from Judge Wall really speaking
to substantial truth. Did she tell the truth that day?
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But a case obviously we will continue to follow this
dismissal of our case. I think we'll mean a lot
more going forward.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Here, Yeah, I think it will.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Derek Chauvin, is it alone up there in the wonderful
state of Minnesota. Is he as far as cops that
are getting railroaded and taken to the cleaners.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
You know, sadly, Minneapolis really became the home state, if
you will, for the defund the police movement. That's what
Minneapolis sadly seems to be known for now, and that's
spread all across the country and the globe. I guess
you could say, in the wake of George Floyd's death,
but yeah, you're right, the Minneapolis police department down still
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by more than forty percent of the officers that were
once that were once there. And we have the mainstream
media here in town, the corporate media continue to pairt
the fact that things are fine and crime is down.
We hear all of those things. However, I will say
that as we're talking and here today, Jesse, there have
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been five homicides in the matter, in a matter of
eighteen hours that happened in Minneapolis. So I will be
the first to tell you that crime in fact is
not down, and it's a pretty sad state of affairs
here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You're right, Liz, this has to be affecting not just
obviously the normal people like you in safety, but this
has to be affecting the business environment. There's no way
businesses are going to stay in a place with homicides
and God only knows how many robberies you must have
with forty percent reduction in the police force.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
That's it. The policies continue to change here now, even
years later, officers have to report if they put handcuffs
on a person, they have to get basically a supervisor's
permission to arrest someone on the scene. It's really just
wild the stories we continue to hear and report on
here at Alpha News. But thousands of businesses in Minneapolis
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have either left or or closed their doors permanently in
the last five years.
Speaker 12 (44:25):
That's no secret.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
I know. There was just another restaurant in Saint Paul
that closed their doors that had been around for a
long time, and they were the first to come out
and say this is because of crime. Downtown Saint Paul
is not safe. Our business continues to be broken into,
just kind of this beloved restaurant that had been a
part of downtown Saint Paul for years. But these are
stories we continue to hear.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Apparently you're also allowed to vandalize Tesla's up there.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 5 (44:53):
I'm glad we're hitting Jesse all the highlights here here
in Minnesota. But yes, this is another story that when
national just just recently. But this is a state worker,
Dylan Adams is his name. He went out from his
condo in downtown Minneapolis walking his dog and keyd at
least six teslas in the downtown Minneapolis area. And get this,
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this is twenty thousand dollars in damage that we're aware
of to these six teslas. But our Sorrow's backed County
Attorney Mary Moriarty went ahead and gave Dylan Adams diversion
through all of this. You know, he's so he's not
He's going to be able to avoid this this felony
charge if he completes this program. It's sort of just
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this unprecedented use of diversion. Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
And even the Minneapolis Police Department came out and said,
you know, our cops did all this work, put all
this together, you know, arrested this guy, and now at
the end of the day he's given diversion. A real
slap in the face to law enforcement. Yet again, right for.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
The cops up there, brand for you guys is stay safe,
all right, We're not done yet. Final thoughts next, the
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judges have to go to prison. We have a lot
of work to do. The legal system has been conquered,
but we can take it back. It's just going to
take time. We just have to keep talking about these things,
keep making sure our politicians care about these things.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
All right, do it again.
Okay, real quick, let's address this. Mike Walls, Alex Wong
being out, Trump dismisses, fires two members of his national
security team. I know that everybody's gonna cloak everything. And
while he resigned, he stepped away. Everybody knows what happened here.
He was fired. Trump fired him. I talked about the
necessity for this a while ago. Remember when I talked
(00:30):
about it. Mike Walls, if he is the responsible party,
and I think we could probably guess that by now.
Who's been on this show, and I have nothing personal
against Mike Walls should be fired and fired immediately.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It should serve as a lesson to everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
In this administration that accidents, mistakes, they're not good enough.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It won't work. We only have four years.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
We have to move a breakneck speed speed and purpose
getting done. Boo boos like that can sink us. It's
he's gone, all right, But it is what it is.
This is how things need to happen. It's a harsh world,
it's a harsh life.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Stakes of the game are high. That's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Now, onto something else before we get to these judges
really quickly. In fact, Elvis Chan is going to lead
us right to these judges. Elvis Chan, you remember Elvis Chan.
Elvis Chan was the guy who was liaising we use
that wonderful professional term with Facebook other social media companies
on behalf of the FBI to ensure Hunter Biden's laptop
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story was censored and the American people can't see it.
He took his position as special agent at the FBI
and used it to try to help Joe Biden win
an election.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I was calling for his head a while ago.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I believe everything that comes out of the DOJ, FBI, everywhere,
I believe all of it is a lie. I think
I'm being lied to at all times. And if you
would like to earn back my trust, so I believe
you ever again about anything, you will arrest that human being.
He will put him through a public trial for violating
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the civil rights of Americans, for violating abusing his post
at the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And as soon as
the cell door closes on Elvis Chan, as he'll be
as he begins his thirty year prison sentence in Fort Leavenworth,
then you will start to earn back a little bit
of my trust. Okay, well this isn't that, but it's
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a start, something to celebrate. He's been placed on terminal leave.
They fired him a probably probably, we don't know all
the details yet, still going to collect a government check, retirement.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Things like that. So is this enough? No, it's not
near enough.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But if this is step one to putting that evil
secret state police henchmen behind.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Bars, good.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
If this is the end of it, then it's not good,
then it's pathetic. But if this is the start in it,
very well, maybe I say that's a good thing. And
people must go to prison, because of course we're going
to be talking a lot about the judges tonight, the
judicial system, and judges have to go to prison before
we get to the specific.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Judges and things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Remember this communism is revolutionary, always has been, always was.
It's a revolutionary religion. It believes that it has to
tear down the existing structures, the existing power structures, existing institutions.
It's revolutionary. And because it's revolutionary, it involves breaking the law.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It always has.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's going to break whatever existing laws are there in
whatever country it's trying to have a revolution, and you
have to if you're having a revolution, you can't have
a revolution and be lawful about it, right, So communists
are always breaking the law. They lie, they murder, they
hurt people, they burn things. This is how communists act
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because they're revolutionaries, and that's how they justified in their mind.
But something kept happening as the communists globally kept trying
to get their movement into place and country after country
after country.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It wasn't just Russia. These people were.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Always trying in France and Germany and Italy and America.
You know, they kept running into the institutions. They kept
slamming into them, mainly the law enforcement institutions. Here in
the United States of America. We had so many radical
communist groups who wanted to murder everybody and burn everything down,
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groups like the Weather Underground. But they kept running into
the law. They kept getting arrested for their crimes. Hey,
you can't arrest me. It was just a nail bomb.
They kess had to go back to the drawing board,
and they figured out, hey, if we keep running into
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the justice system in America, if they keep stopping us,
if that wall keeps stopping the revolution, why don't we
just take over the justice system. And so credit to them.
For years and years and years and years and years,
America's communists have taken over the law schools of this country.
In those law schools they educate generation after generation after
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generation of lawyers, and of course the lawyers become judges.
In communist and doctrination, the belief that communism is great,
Democrats are wonderful, Republicans are evil, and these foot soldiers
go out into the legal world and they use whatever
positions of power they can find to push and protect
the communist revolution. Exhibit A great one would be the
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judge in New Mexico. A judge in New Mexico who.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Was caught and photographed photographed with a gang, a foreign
prison gang member living with him and his wife.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Judge Cano seemed to be former Judge Cano got. He
got his charges were just unsealed. He's charged with obstruction.
He is charged. He admitted posts Miranda, he took one
of the TDA member's cell phones himself, took it, beat
it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked the
pieces to a city dumpster to dispose of it to
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protect him. The wife also is charged with destroying evidence.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Sandra.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Not only that this TDA member and he had on
a necklace that said kill, something about death. He had
tattoos all over him. He also had on his cell
phone pictures of two decapitated victims. The judge and his
wife gave him assault rifles that belonged to their daughter.
That's what they're charged with the in the criminal report
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OFFI David. He goes to a shing range with these
assault rifles with a suppressor, with other known TDA members
and their shooting. This is the last person that we
want in our country, nor will we ever tolerate a
judge or anyone else harboring them.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
The judge doesn't see himself as a judge, probably most
likely has never really seen himself as a judge. He's
always been a communist revolutionary. Communist revolutionaries know the increase
in violent crime helps the revolution, So that judge worked
his way up through the legal system and put on
those judges' robes so he could push the revolution, protect
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the revolution.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You see, this Dugan is no different. Remember this judge
Dugan in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Remember this judge who got got arrested because she did
what Now there was an illegal in her courtroom. She
found out that illegal was about to be deported. She
grabbed him and his lawyer pulled him into her private
chambers and whisked him out the back door so he
could escape arrest and deportation. To a normal person, when
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they hear these stories, their mind just gets completely blown.
But I understand perfectly what's going on. You see, Hannah
Dugan is not a judge.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's a that's.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
A uniform she wears. You know, what uniform isn't even
the right word. It's a costume. She puts on a
costume as a judge. Hannah Dugan's a communist.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
The law is a real challenge in making sure that
justice happens for people. It's transformative in people's lives, but
it also, especially the United States, is considered a stabilizing force.
It's something that keeps us on a constant path. The
rule of law is how we address our social issues
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and how we dress our disputes, but also how we
grow as people. I as a person who for a
couple decades almost represent and low income people. It is
due process that really equalizes those differences between people. Then
we're able to achieve that equal justice that we are
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promised and hope to have continue despite our differences, despite
our class differences, despite our racial and religious differences.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Is that a judge just up there interpreting the law,
administering justice.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Is that how she sees herself? Of course not.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It's not a judge, that's a costume. He's a communist.
These judges are all across the country, and we should
pause on this really quickly and talk just for a
brief moment about why these judges are all over the country.
It's not just because Democrats are equal communists. It's because
Republicans are weak empathetic, and they're too weak and pathetic
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to actually stand up and any of this madness. If
you'd like to know why you have judges in place
all across the country who are communist revolutionaries stopping the
Trump administration, allow me to introduce to you to Senator
John Cornyan.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
This sounds like a case of misplaced sympathy by those
who who are somehow saying the judge is being treated unfairly.
Unfortunately in Washington, DC, you have these competing narratives and
people back home in Texas and elsewhere wonder you know
what the truth is. But so far, based on what
we know, based on your report, it looks to me
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like the judge had misplaced sympathies, and rather than enforcing
the law on partially as she should have, was actively
aiding and abetting and an i legal immigrant to avoid
the enforcement of the law.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Let me tell you something, that way of thinking, that
way of speaking, has done as much to bring about
the communist evolution of this country as the communists themselves.
The people we elect, hoping they'll go back and fight
against them, make excuses for them. Essentially, people like John
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Cornyn have been in Washington, d c. For a long
time holding the door open so we can't slam it shut,
letting as many communists through misplaced sympathies. This pathetic weakness
is why we are where we are. Don't speak like that.
Speak like Trump speaks about these judges. Trump knows exactly
what he's dealing with now.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
We cannot allow a handful of communists, radical of judges
to obstruct the enforcement of our laws and assume the
duties that belong solely to the President of the United States.
Judges are trying to take away the power given to
the president to keep our country safe. And it's not
a good thing.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
But I.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Hope for the sake of our country that the Supreme
Court is going to save this because we have to
do something. These people are just looking to destroy our country.
Nothing will stop me in the mission to keep America
safe again. It's very simple, keep America safe again.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So why hasn't the Supreme Court stepped in? They?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Could you realize that for one hundred days into the
Trump presidency, these judges have been acting this way for
the entire one hundred days.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Why haven't they stepped in? Why hasn't John.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Roberts stepped up put a stop to these ridiculous judges.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Why can't he see what's happening.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Why can't he see that his own legitimacy, the legitimacy
of the Supreme Court, is evaporating day by day. You
have people like me already saying ignore the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Why won't he step in?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, the truth is, we forget this that judges, even
Supreme Court, when's they're flesh and blood, human beings. They
have loves, they have fears, they have families. Why do
you think democrats routinely speak like this?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Now? I want to tell you, Gorzach.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
I want to tell you Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And you will pay the price.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
You won't know what hit you if you go forward
with these awful decisions.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Right after that video, and assassin flew from California with
a gun to blow Bret Kavanaugh's head off, got arrested
just in time outside of his home. Maybe the Supreme
Court understands democrats are threatening their lives.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
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Speaker 10 (15:16):
I mean, I think when you start looking at how
the judge was treated after the events that led to
the charge, So where and when and how she was arrested,
and the fact that she was arrested at the courthouse
rather than her own residence, The fact that she was
placed in a jail cell for hours before her arraignment
was called in the court later in the afternoon.
Speaker 11 (15:36):
These things are unprecedented. Typically, upstanding members of the community
who have no criminal history and aren't accused of a
violent act are allowed to self surrender at the time
of their arraignment. The fact that they did not offer
that courtesy to her and instead went out of.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Their way to treat her harshly.
Speaker 11 (15:55):
I believe is an active, performative cruelty on behalf of
the Department of Justice, which is not the way any
Department of Justice should be acting.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, I remember how Peter Navarro got arrested. I remember
that fat old man in Utah who had to use
a cane to get around. He didn't even get arrested.
They just flat out showed up and gunned him down.
But I guess it's unprecedented. Joining me now, my friend's CEO,
co founder of the Wonderful Federalist, Sean Davis. Hey, Sean,
it's unprecedented that they would arrest her a public Gosh,
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I can't believe this well.
Speaker 12 (16:30):
I mean, first off, Andrew McCabe should be sharing a
cell with her. The fact that that guy is out
walking free after lying under oath repeatedly about his activities
in the Russia Gate collusion hoax is absurd. But like
like you, I've been alive for the last you know,
five ten years. I remember peaceful j sixers charged with misdemeanors,
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having people come with guns raided at dawn to raid
their homes in dark. So this idea that it's unprecedented,
McCabe and all his friends were doing the same nonsense
against their political enemies for years, and instead of trying
to block it, he was cheering it on. And sorry
to say, they're at the find out stage now of
the rule of law. They're sewing and we're reaping. And
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the only thing that makes it better is how sad
they are about it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
These people thought they were going to hold power forever, right, Sean.
It's very obvious the way they conducted themselves under Joe Biden,
they just thought it was never going to end, which
blows it just completely blows me away.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It baffles the mind.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But they operate as if they will never ever ever
be the ones on the receiving end of this stuff.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
Yeah, and you know, to a certain extent, you almost
have to defend that assumption because we know what Republicans
looked like in Washington and how they ruled and how
cowardly they were before Donald Trump showed up, So like
they can almost be forgiven for assuming that Republicans will
just like lie back and let Democrats do it they
whatever they want. But it's a new era now and
the ride is not the same ride as it was
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ten or fifteen or twenty years ago. We've seen what
they've done. We understand. Look, we wanted a certain set
of rules that applied to everyone. They rejected that. So
now they get their own rules, good and hard, and
thankfully Donald Trump understands the importance of doing that. You
can't have two systems of justice. So we either were
going to have ours where everyone is treated normally and
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everyone gets the right protections and is treated with dignity,
or we are going to get what the left did
to us for years. And that's what they're getting. And
if they don't like.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It, tough, Sean. Talk to me about Judge Boseburg. He's
been all over the news. He just, by a miracle
from God on I happens to get all these cases
that's supposed to be random. He happens to get all
them dropped in his lap. And of course he's a
communist revolutionary. We don't have to mince words about the
whole thing. But who is this guy? Where did he
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come from?
Speaker 12 (18:49):
Yeah, it's fascinating. He's been on the bench for a
long time. He was actually on the FISA court while
Andrew McCabe's FBI was illegally spying on Donald Trump and
his campaign. So Bosberg, who sat back and watched that happen,
to go and then magically get these cases which weren't
randomly assigned. They were supposed to go to a particular
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emergency judge who is on duty when a lot of
these cases came in. We know he intervened and made
sure that he got the case because he wanted to
make himself a left wing judicial hero. And what he's
doing is nothing less than judicial tyranny, judicial insurrection. He's
taken powers that don't belong to him, he's exercising authorities
that no one gave to him, and he's all but
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daring Trump to come and ignore him, which, by the way,
I hope he does sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Sean, the Supreme Court everyone knows they should step in.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Trump has said they should step in. I'm sure that.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Look, I've talked about it before. But if they don't,
what do we do. Look, it's one thing to say, well,
Justice Roberts needs to step in and stop these judges.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But if they don't, are we just done?
Speaker 12 (19:57):
No, we're not. In the comparison I would use is
I would compare the Supreme Court's credibility to Fiat currency
It's like the little pieces of paper we carry around
with dead presidents and some non presidents on them. Those
only have value because we all assume they have value.
It's not based on gold. It's not based on the
inherent value of the piece of paper. We assume it
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has value, and so therefore we impute it to it value.
The Supreme Court's credibility relies on the same types of assumptions.
The Supreme Court has no army, it has no ability
to declare war, it has no battalions it controls. It
doesn't control the purse, it can't appropriate money. All it
has is the assumption on behalf of the people and
the two other branches that it is worth listening to
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and following. And so the longer that this goes on,
with John Roberts allowing the circus to continue, the more
likely it is that we all just decide, you know what,
when it comes to the President or Congress, you actually
don't have the power to do anything if we don't
acknowledge it. So we're going to steam roll you and
ignore you, and you can write all the fun little
opinions and paper that you want, but at the end
of the day, if no one believes that you have
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the authority to do what you're doing, then you truly
have no authority to do anything, and you're meaningless. And
I think in the long run that would be bad
for people to get to that point. But they're making
it inevitable. It's not Donald Trump making this inevitable. It
is the fecklessness and the cowardice of the Supreme Court
doing nothing that's going to make it inevitable if they
continue down this road.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Sean, this is why they threatened these people. This is
why it's not just Chuck Schumer. Everyone saw that little tidbit.
We played it in the opening. Everyone's seen it before.
Democrat after Democrat has.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Threatened these judges.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We've had multiple protests in front of their homes. We
had an assassin a come very very close to actually
killing Brett Kavanaugh. This wasn't done accidentally made these people
be afraid. Amy Cony Barratt just had a bomb threat
for her sister.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
The left, that's what it's doing.
Speaker 12 (21:53):
Yeah, and this is the same intimidation game they played
with John Roberts back and I think it was twenty
twelve with the Obamacare decision stood it was unconstitutional. He
knew that Congress and Obama didn't have the authority to
do what they did, but because he got intimidated and
the New York Times said some mean things about him,
he switched his vote as at the last minute. And
that's basically defined his entire tenure as Chief Justice and
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as a member of the Supreme Court. He's a coward
who can be bullied around. Personally, I think that a
lot of what he has said that he cares about
the legitimacy of the Court and this and that, I
think that's just a smoke screen for he wants to
be in charge, he wants to make certain decisions, and
when he gets to do what he wants, the Court
is protecting its legitimacy, and that when he doesn't want
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to do something he doesn't want, he couches it in
the same language. I think these people, really, I think
they're just cowards. I don't think it's more complicated than that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Let's shift gears really quickly and talk about this guy.
Speaker 13 (22:52):
I was very involved our field office FBI San Francisco
was very involved in helping to protect the US elections
in twenty twelve.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
And I think we can.
Speaker 13 (23:02):
All agree or I think many of us can agree
that it was a very safe election. We talked with
all of these entities I mentioned regularly, at least on
a monthly basis, and right before the election, probably on
a weekly basis. Right, if they were seeing anything unusual,
if we were seeing anything unusual, sharing intelligence with technology companies,
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with social media companies so that they could protect their
own platforms.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Right, why is Elvis Chan not in prison? I'm happy
he's on leave.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Why not prison?
Speaker 12 (23:36):
Yeah, I had the exact same question. You beat me
to it. This guy was a key part of an
illegal censorship effort during an election that a time when
we should all be able to speak freely more than
any other time because the stakes, He in his corrupt
agency were out there telling these social media companies that
the Hunter laptop, a Hunter bind laptop, was faked, that
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it was Russian disinformation, when they had known for more
than a year that that was a lie. So, yeah,
he should be in handcuffs, not on television. He should
not be on leave. He should have been frog marched
out of that building in handcuffs, awaiting indictment for what
he and his entire garbage agency did to this country
over years so I don't have a good answer for you.
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Hopefully somebody somewhere does, or maybe they're working on it
and they just haven't gotten to it yet.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
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Speaker 11 (25:49):
The idea that no person is above the law is
a bedrock principle of American justice.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
No man is above the law, no matter what the crime.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And I agree with you. No, no man, it's above
the law. And no person is above the law. No
one is above the law. No one is above the law.
No one's above the law. No one is above the law.
Speaker 12 (26:05):
No man is above the law. Nobody is above the law.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
No one is above the law.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
The law.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
He has to be held accountable. It's not above the law.
No one's above the law.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Either that nor any other title puts you above the
rule of law.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I miss those days. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now? My friend Josh Hammer, host of the Josh Hammer Show. Hey, Josh,
nobody is above the law, man.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I love watching these judges in handcuffs. It does my
heart well, Jesse.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
I mean, ever since Alvin Bragg trotted out there with
that ridiculous thirty four count indictment against Eland Trump on
the Stormy Daniels Michael Conn I mean, it really feels
like a whole nother lifetime ago, doesn't it. But ever
since then, for the following year and a half, how
many Democrats got up there and said exactly what this
montage just showed. No one is above the law. It
is incumbent upon us to hold all of us to
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the same legal standard. By the way, signe note, I
don't think leftist Jesse know where this notion of no
one above the law. I don't think they understand where
that actually comes from. That's actually from the Bible, in fact,
the English common law which famously said that the king
is not above the law. The common lawyer who wrote
that into the common law was literally citing the Hebrew Bible,
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the Book of Deuteronomy when he cited it. So kind
of kind of funny how the left doesn't realize when
they're signed the Bible. And that's just a hole aside here.
The point for our purposes is what a bunch of
galling hypocrites, I mean, what a bunch of stinking, raging, smelly,
looney tuny hypocrites. Here, no one is about the law
until it is their own person who is shielding an
illegal alien, who is obstructing the ICE agents attempt to
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arrest this leegal lal. And that's what happened of course
with Hannah Dugan and Wisconsin, until their own person is
purportedly not about the law. Well, that's when that judge
actually is about the law. By the way, another point
on this judge in Wisconsin, O Jesse, though we're dealing
here with a stakehorep judge who is accused and seems
to me quite obviously did via federal law. You know,
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the Democrats have a long and inglorious history in this country,
Jesse of trying to pretend that federal law has to
bend the need to state law. Last I checked, Democrats
fought an entire civil war, in the entire nineteenth century.
We lost a lot of people to defend the principle
that federal law is supreme to state law. It's actually
right there in the Constitution, Article six. It's the supremacist
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cause very clearly says this Constitution, all laws pass pursuing
there too, are the supreme law of the land. So
what you're seeing here it's not just hypocrisy. It's also
the rise of what I like to refer to as
a neo Confederate sentiment, because they're basically just making the
same arguments about how federal law is not actually supreme,
at least as it applies to their friends. It's definitely
supreme when it applies to their enemies. But they're saying
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that it's not supreme. And that's basically the same argument
in many ways that John C. Calhoun and anti Bellum
pre Civil War slaveholders made. So you know, history has
a way of repeating itself, Jesse. And that's also what
we're seeing play out here in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
What's that quote?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
For my friends everything for my enemies the law. It's
pretty obvious what the game is here, Josh. As soon
as they have control of the law, they want to
use it to throw their political political opponents in prison.
As soon as we have control of it, well then
it's a constitutional crisis. Of course, if any one of
these vile little scumbags gets arrested and thrown into prison.
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It just for normal people, Josh. It's so eye popping
to see a judge whisk away and illegal out the
back of her private chambers to avoid arrest. Honestly, it's
so in your face it's amazing.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
I mean, the brazenness of this is really just next level, right,
I mean, when I first read this headline, Jesse, I
mean might jaw like physically dropped. I was like, I mean,
this judge didn't what I mean, like, what the heck
just happened here? And by the way, just to illustrate here,
I think this is probably a helpful example. So they're
saying that this judge is above the law, because how
dare Donald Trump had the temerity the hoot spot and
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his FBI agents, his brown shirts, his jack boots, how
dare they arrest a judge here? So we're talking about
state court judge here. Let's say hypothetically that a state
court judge walked into the local tavern, into local pub
in town there because the judge found out that his
wife was having an affair. And let's say that the
judge found the guy that his wife was sleeping with,
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took out his revolver and shot that guy dead in
the head. There, would the left really say that that
judge cannot be prosecuted. I mean, this example just gives
away the game here, which is they're talking point that
a judge in this case is above the law is
just so transparently stupid. And it is so transparently stupid
because it has everything to do with the fact that
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they simply do not want federal immigration law enforce. That
is obviously the end all be all here. Democrats have
been fighting against federal immigration law for quite literally decades.
That it is the entire purpose of sanctuary city, sanctuary jurisdictions,
sanctuary states, and so forth. There they have no interest
in a body by immigration law at best. At worst,
they have every interest in the world and actively subverting it.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
There.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
But as you said, the number one takeaway for me
from this whole Hannah Dugan affair in Wisconsin is exactly
the quote that you said, which is for my friends
anything for my enemies the law.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Josh, how's Donald Trump handling packing the lower courts? And
so obvious? The Biden administration was very purposeful. To their credit,
give your enemy credit where it's due. They're very purposeful
about getting their little communists in robes and places of
power all across the country.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
How are we doing well?
Speaker 12 (31:27):
Nothing yet.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
There has not been a single judicial nominee announced, But
I'm told that it's it literally could be any day.
In fact, if it happens tomorrow, I would not be surprised.
I mean, it literally is is any day at this
at this point. Now it's not necessarily the administration's fault.
I mean Democrats chucktioning where they've they've been pulling out
all the procedural parliamentary tactic stunts in the sense to
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basically slowed down the executive branch confirmation schedule. There But
by the end, by middle to end of this month,
really based on my calculations and based on my sources,
the Executive brandch really should have all of its high
to mid level officials in place. Not everyone, because there's
a bit of a backlog at PPO that's getting a
little bit in the weeds. But the point is, by
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mid to late May, we should have we should have
a situation where where the trudministration feels satisfied that most
of its top ranking, most important political appointees are in place.
At that point, Jesse, it's time to get the it's
really time to kind of get the gears of motion
when it comes to stacking not just Article two but
Article three. And there are indeed dozens and dozens of
current judicial vacancies, most of them are on federal trial course,
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but every federal judge ship these days is important, especially
in today's post constitutional era of judicial supremacy run a
mock there. So I've got a lot of thoughts and
what we should be looking for when it comes to
judicial nominees, and I'm optimistic that the administration will hopefully
listen to this of it.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, well, what are those thoughts and are they listening?
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Well?
Speaker 9 (32:48):
I think they are, you know, will we will see
when the proof is in the pudding. But I guess
I will just say this, Jesse, so you know, you
know I'm on the halfs that we are these days.
Is I'm senior counselor at the Article three Project where
my good friend Mike Davis is the found during president
there and we had argle three project think that we
are going to have a lot of outside friendly influence
when it comes I'm not saying that word the masterminds here,
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We're not the puppets. Obviously, those decisions are ultimately made
by President Trump himself. He has the White House Counsel's Office,
the Office Legal Policy. There's a lot of moving parts
of the judicial nominations apparatus. But I am inclined to
believe that this second Trump administration is going to be
a little more aggressive, a little more assertive, and frankly
just less afraid to pick people who are overtly ready
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and willing to get their hands dirty. So jesse real quick,
I have a new essay for Tom Klintstein dot com.
Basically four things that I am personally looking for when
it comes to trying to vet judicial nominees in this
second Trump term. The first thing is just do the reading.
Make sure that they actually have a spotless record, and
the past Conservatives have simply failed to do the reading.
Sometimes we've been surprised when we should not have been
surprised because there might have been a black mark back
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in the judicial opinion from fifteen years ago that we
just missed. That's number one. Number two is vet for
full spectrum across the board conservatism. I am sick of
the libertarian and corporatiss pansies who just obsess over economic
size of government issues while not saying a darn word
or caring about things like sovereignty, borders, life, transgenderism, LGBT, religion,
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I mean a lot of the cultural issues.
Speaker 12 (34:14):
That's number two.
Speaker 9 (34:15):
Number three, kind of going down the list here, arguably
arguably most important is you have to try to vet
for judges, especially at the Supreme Court level. If we
get a Spreme Court vacancy who are ready willing and
able to use all of the tools at their disposal.
They have to they have to be willing to actually
vote for a rist of serch you arey and actually
hear difficult cases they are. There have be justices who
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are not going to punt on a difficult case on
so called standing grounds. We've seen Emmy Cony Barrett do
this many many times. For instance. There so that would
be number That'll be point number three. Then point number
four is probably most controversially Jesse, I actually care a
lot about the nominee's private life, like who you married to?
This I call this the spouse test. Is your spouse,
your husband, your wife, as right wing as you are,
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that's the person that you're ultimately going to come back
to at night there, you know, sleeping next to you,
I at your bedside. You better make sure that your
spouse is actually in your corner. I want to know
what kind of house of worship you go to. If
you're going to a rainbow flag church or synagogue, no chance,
I have an automatic qualifier there. So the actual personal
life I care a lot about as well.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I had to go to a concert last weekend at
a church, had a big sign out front the dead,
love is love and black lives matter and all kinds
of coming crap. Couldn't get out of there fast enough. Josh,
my friend, thank you. I appreciate you. I like it.
I like it, And it sounds like we're gearing up.
We got a lot of work to do. We have
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to fill up as many seats, more seats than they
field up.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Anyway, what happens.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
When you let these people take over an area? Have
you paid attention to Minneapolis? Liz call and wonderful investigative
reporter is going to join us next and talk about
some of that.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Hang on.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I sleep so good. I love to sleep. But every
now and then we all go through the same thing.
We had too much caffeine, or too much stress, or something,
got a big day tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'm want to take something to sleep. I'm going to
take something You've done that. We've all done that.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
But what do you take The problem with it is
everything you take to help you sleep, whether it be
over the counter, maybe the doctor wrote your prescription, everything
as you waking up feeling like garbage the next day,
except for the one thing I've found dream powder from
being It's the only thing I've ever found. It's a
cup of hot chocolate, which I thought was unique. It's delicious.
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You never know there was anything in it, but it's
got ray she and melowtonin and all kinds of things
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before you sleep, you'll just kind of drift off to sleep,
not knock out, You drift off to sleep, and then
you wake up in the morning ready to go feeling
like a million bucks. Get that in your life shotbeam
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dot Com slash Jesse Kelly gets you up to forty
percent off, So go save some money. Remember Derek Chauvin
name probably rings the bells, certainly not as famous as
George Floyd. But he was the cop. He was the
cop we all woke up the video, the kneeling to
(37:24):
everything else.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
He was the cop.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
He's currently in prison, He's already been stabbed in prison.
Was he convicted correctly?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Rightly? Was that justice?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Well, he had a trial, long trial, and at the
end of it he was convicted. Liz Calling, wonderful investigative
reporter for Alpha News, was all over that entire thing. Hey, Liz,
tell me about that trial.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Hey, Jesse, thanks for having me back on. Yeah, the
trial in many ways, as we've reported on, it's almost
as if the script was written before it even began.
Many questionable tactics used by the prosecution and Derek S.
Chauvin's state trial. Also the judge, Judge Peter K. Hill,
who interestingly retired from the bench a couple of years early,
(38:08):
recently retired as Chauvin's appeal has been has been moving forward.
But you have a jury that was not sequestered during
Derek Chauvin's trial at all. Remember keep in mind this
is probably the most high profile criminal case in Minnesota
state history. Instead, the jury is paraded in and out
of the Henipton County Courthouse every day, lined with concrete
(38:32):
barriers and fencing, members of the National Guard with their
with their rifles slung over their shoulders. This is These
are all images that that the jury would see each
and each and every day. And many things came to
light about the testimony. Were people telling the truth during
during the testimony? And I know we're going to talk
a little bit more about a defamation case that has
(38:54):
now been settled and dismissed, where that that part the
truth about testimony. He was really at the heart of
that defamation case. So you're right, law fair certainly alive
and well even now five years later here in Minnesota, Well.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Let's talk about that defamation case right now, let's talk
about the truth, because it's kind of a big deal
of people lie during a trial and a man goes
to prison for it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Who lied?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Well, it's interesting in October alf News and myself we
were sued for the Fall of Minneapolis and my book.
They're lying the media, the left and the death of
George Floyd. The assistant police chief of Minneapolis, Katie Blackwell.
Keep in mind she received a couple of promotions since
her testimony in Chauvin's trials. She's now serving as the
(39:42):
second in command at the Minneapolis Police Department. But she
went ahead with this defamation lawsuit saying that we lied
about her testimony by putting her own words on camera
in the Fall of Minneapolis specifically, and she says during
that trial that this technique that Chauvin and the other
(40:02):
officers were using is not something she recognized and it's
not how the Minneapolis Police Department trained. So as part
of this dismissal that we went forward with trying to
ask the judge to throw out this lawsuit. We received
thirty four signed declarations that stated that Katie Blackwell in
(40:23):
fact was lying. Fourteen officers went so far to say
she committed perjury in Derek Chauvin's case. And these thirty
four officers in total said, no, we trained, We absolutely
know what was going on that day. This was the
maximal restraint technique. And ultimately, just a few weeks ago,
the judge dismissed this case against us and really pointed
to the claims that were made in the book, in
(40:43):
the documentary that in fact, Katie Blackwell was lying on
the stand.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Okay, Liz, help me understand this then, because I'm just
the dumb, uneducated fool here.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
If one of the main.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Witnesses was lying, and now we know, as your documentation proves,
she was lying, and that why helped convict Derek Chauvin
and send him to prison? Why is he still in prison?
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Jesse's an excellent, excellent question. And we continue to keep
people updated on the fall of Minneapolis dot Com if
you click on the news section there, so several things
are now currently happening. We know that Derek Chauvin's new
attorney is using these signs sworn, these signed declarations in
Chauvin's appeal, which is ongoing. We think that is likely
(41:33):
to be heard in November, perhaps his state appeal that's
going on right now. And there are some things happening
with Katie Blackwell. Complaints that she could be in trouble
from her law enforcement career here now that this is
documented and a judge backs this up. In fact, it
says in this ruling, which was more than fifty pages
(41:56):
by Judge Edward Wall. This is also in headPan County.
This is a judge and county where this case was dismissed.
But under the facts, it is possible to interpret Blackwell's
testimony as incomplete or misleading by omission. And there's ten
different references in that ruling from Judge Wall really speaking
to substantial truth. Did she tell the truth that day?
(42:21):
But a case obviously we will continue to follow this
dismissal of our case. I think we'll mean a lot
more going forward.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Here, Yeah, I think it will.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Derek Chauvin, is it alone up there in the wonderful
state of Minnesota. Is he as far as cops that
are getting railroaded and taken to the cleaners.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
You know, sadly, Minneapolis really became the home state, if
you will, for the defund the police movement. That's what
Minneapolis sadly seems to be known for now, and that's
spread all across the country and the globe. I guess
you could say, in the wake of George Floyd's death,
but yeah, you're right, the Minneapolis police department down still
(43:04):
by more than forty percent of the officers that were
once that were once there. And we have the mainstream
media here in town, the corporate media continue to pairt
the fact that things are fine and crime is down.
We hear all of those things. However, I will say
that as we're talking and here today, Jesse, there have
(43:24):
been five homicides in the matter, in a matter of
eighteen hours that happened in Minneapolis. So I will be
the first to tell you that crime in fact is
not down, and it's a pretty sad state of affairs
here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You're right, Liz, this has to be affecting not just
obviously the normal people like you in safety, but this
has to be affecting the business environment. There's no way
businesses are going to stay in a place with homicides
and God only knows how many robberies you must have
with forty percent reduction in the police force.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
That's it. The policies continue to change here now, even
years later, officers have to report if they put handcuffs
on a person, they have to get basically a supervisor's
permission to arrest someone on the scene. It's really just
wild the stories we continue to hear and report on
here at Alpha News. But thousands of businesses in Minneapolis
(44:20):
have either left or or closed their doors permanently in
the last five years.
Speaker 12 (44:25):
That's no secret.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
I know. There was just another restaurant in Saint Paul
that closed their doors that had been around for a
long time, and they were the first to come out
and say this is because of crime. Downtown Saint Paul
is not safe. Our business continues to be broken into,
just kind of this beloved restaurant that had been a
part of downtown Saint Paul for years. But these are
stories we continue to hear.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Apparently you're also allowed to vandalize Tesla's up there.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 5 (44:53):
I'm glad we're hitting Jesse all the highlights here here
in Minnesota. But yes, this is another story that when
national just just recently. But this is a state worker,
Dylan Adams is his name. He went out from his
condo in downtown Minneapolis walking his dog and keyd at
least six teslas in the downtown Minneapolis area. And get this,
(45:17):
this is twenty thousand dollars in damage that we're aware
of to these six teslas. But our Sorrow's backed County
Attorney Mary Moriarty went ahead and gave Dylan Adams diversion
through all of this. You know, he's so he's not
He's going to be able to avoid this this felony
charge if he completes this program. It's sort of just
(45:37):
this unprecedented use of diversion. Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
And even the Minneapolis Police Department came out and said,
you know, our cops did all this work, put all
this together, you know, arrested this guy, and now at
the end of the day he's given diversion. A real
slap in the face to law enforcement. Yet again, right for.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
The cops up there, brand for you guys is stay safe,
all right, We're not done yet. Final thoughts next, the
(46:21):
judges have to go to prison. We have a lot
of work to do. The legal system has been conquered,
but we can take it back. It's just going to
take time. We just have to keep talking about these things,
keep making sure our politicians care about these things.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
All right, do it again.
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