April 8, 2025 • 45 mins
President Trump just shocked the stock market with his tariff plan and is already issuing fresh threat to a foreign adversary. Jesse Kelly gives his thoughts on this and gets reaction from Megyn Kelly, who also has a big announcement to make. Plus, Jesse chats with Robby Starbuck about a big move he just made in the battle to reclaim America's culture.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's honor the fallen. Let's talk about tariffs. Meghan Kelly
is here with an announcement. Robbie Starbuck is here with
an announcement.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What a show tonight. But I'm right now, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So before we get into all the tariff arguments and
the markets and Trump and all that other stuff, that'll well,
it'll be a good time. I'm sure I'll offend everybody there.
Let's do something that we have to do on this show.
We hate it, but we feel obligated to do it
to honor the fallen, especially the fallen in training.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's a big thing for me.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It always has been, it always will be. When people
die in military service or law enforcement fire.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, these dangerous jobs.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They're dangerous jobs, and training for these jobs is dangerous
by necessity. It has to be dangerous, otherwise you can't
train properly. And people die and train, and they're oftentimes
forgotten and disregarded because it's not glorious. You didn't die
in battle, but it's every bit as heroic as the
one who did. They serve their country in a dangerous
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job and they gave their lives. Last week, four US
Army soldiers died during a training exercise in Lithuania. We
were waiting, as we do until their names were finally
released so we can honor them by name. They are
a staff Sergeant Jose Duenes, Junior staff Sergeant Van F. Franco,
Pfc Dante D. Titano, and staff Sergeant Troy S. Newts
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and Collins. The oldest is twenty eight, youngest was twenty one.
They gave their lives for this country. And I've had
people email in because they knew we were going to
do that as soon as soon as the training accident
was announced, they knew we were going to honor them.
And I did have some people asking how can this happen?
Because they were part of an armored group. Armored you
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would think of it as tanks, but not all armor
is tanks either way, an armored vehicle and they ended
up submerged in a swamp. They drown, They drown with
their vehicle in a swamp. And for people who don't know,
they don't realize how easy this can happen. You see,
when you see a tank, we'll make it about a tank.
When you see a tank, you see this big, powerful machine,
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all this armor on it and It is really great, right,
it has all this firepower and the guns, and of
course you have the protection of being inside of the
tank and all that stuff is true, but all that
stuff comes with a sacrifice. Everything is a given tank,
isn't it. You can't see. You just can't see. Having
been in armor before, it was one of the worst
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things about it. When we were in armor in Iraq,
and ours were called amtraks. There were troop carriers, but
you were fairly protected, somewhat protected inside. And even knowing that,
oftentimes we would bust the hatches open, the the door
in the roof, we bust the hatches open, and we'd
stick out, stick our heads out, stick our upper bodies out,
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because you can't see anything inside. If you're about to
drive off a bridge into a ditch, drive over.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You can't see.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
The driver can't see, You can't see. And that's just
how it goes. And so these kind of things happen.
So we honor them, pray for them, pray for their families.
All right, All right, now, let's talk about something else.
Showing the tariffs. It's all anybody can talk about the tariffs.
This the tariffstat I am currently fielding more phone calls
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and text messages from friends, and you can possibly imagine.
I actually had a conversation with a friend. On Saturday night.
My wife and I got with a bunch of neighbor
friends and we were just watching the final four games.
The games were on and we were eating pizza and
sitting around and talking and immediately two different dudes came in,
jump me, Jesse, what's going on with the tariffs, Jesse.
(03:57):
I checked my app. We're losing all this money, Jesse.
This so I know what you're going through. And Donald
Trump is talking about it'll be painful for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Em in the market.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
At some point, you're unwilling to tolerate this idea of
a Trump put is they're a threshold.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I think your question should have said stupid.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I mean, I think it's a I don't want anything
to go down, but sometimes you have to take medicine
to fix something. And we have such a horrible We
have been treated so badly by other countries because we
had stupid leadership that allowed this to happen. They took
our businesses, they took our money, they took our jobs.
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They moved into Mexico, they moved it too Canada, and
they moved a lot of it to China, and it's
not sustainable.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
We're not going to do it now.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
We have hundreds of billions of dollars is pouring into
our country on a monthly basis. It's pooring. It's already
started because they put tariffs on, and eventually it's going
to straighten out and our country and shrunk again.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Okay, what I'm about to say is we have a
little tariff talk. It may make you feel better, it
may make you feel worse.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You may get mad at me. That's a standard day anyway.
So here's what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
First, what did I tell you when Donald Trump first
got elected. We talked about this before got elected. We
talked about it a lot since.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He got elected.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Donald Trump intends to do big things, big things. He
got shot in the head. This is his last four years.
He can't run for re election. He's a billionaire, former
and current president of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Guys like that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Guys like that, they don't look at their lives and
their legacy the same way you or I necessarily do
you know what kind.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Of legacy am I going to leave behind?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I think about my sons. Right, are my sons going
to be taken care of? How are their families? Are
they going to That's what I think of is my legacy?
What am I going to leave behind? Guys like Donald
Trump think about what monuments are going to be named
after them?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
They just don't. They look at life differently. And Trump's
four years are going to be full of him attempting
big things, which he's dead serious about. I've told you
about this. He's dead serious about the Panama Canal. He's
dead serious about Greenland, the Gulf of America. He's serious
about these things. And he's serious when it comes to tariffs, protectionism,
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fair trade, whatever word you want to put on it,
whether you love them or hate them, Donald Trump is dead,
dead serious about them. And look, we've got guys like
Lutnick out there talking about, well they're negotiating. Fifty percent
of these countries have already reached out to negotiate. Donald
Trump is flat out come out and said, well, I mean, look,
negotiate all you want.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Some of it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
But I do want to solve the deficit problem that
we have with China, with the europe Union and other
nations and they're gonna have to do that, and if
they want to talk about that, I'm open to talking.
But otherwise, why would I want to talk?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You serious? So he means it.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Okay, Now, let's go with this from kind of a
different angle than maybe you've heard. I understand there are
people who are thrilled about these tariffs, thrilled about them, and.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
The people who are thrilled about them.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Maybe that's you will talk about things like bringing back manufacturing.
They're correct about that. We need to bring back manufacturing.
They're correct about that goal. We need to bring back manufacturing.
You have to make things in your country. Not everything,
but your country has to have the ability to make
things inside your borders. Otherwise you were at the mercy
of others, and that's not good. Okay, So that's good.
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The people who love tariffs, they're going to talk about
the rust belt and how it got that name.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I've lived it. That's my life.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I was born in a rust belt town on the
Ohio River, and I know exactly what it is. These
towns where the plant whatever that plant used to be
steel plant. Oftentimes, that doesn't matter which kind these towns
existed off the plant.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
That's where the men work.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's where oftentimes the women work. The businesses around that
plant were really centered around the plant and the plant workers.
The town was the plant. That's how what your dad did,
your granddad did, it's what you did. It was a
power plant and where I grew up in Toronto, Ohio,
but it was the same thing, the power plant. Everyone
worked at the plant or plant adjacent, right. And when
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the United States of America makes a focused decision and
we did to ship those jobs overseas, then it's not
just the plant that goes. The town goes. The future
of a lot of people go. And the people who
are pro tariffs who talk about that are one hundred
percent correct. It's been devastating. They should not be ignored.
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We can't become a country with no steel but a
great stock market. That doesn't work at all in that way.
So the pro teariff people are like that, don't worry
pro tearff people.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm going to come back to you in a moment. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
The anti tariff people they make great points too, as
a matter of fact, great points. They say things like, well,
you can't bring back manufacturing just with tariffs. You have
to make the business environment the labor environment better here.
Our environmental regulations alone make it virtually impossible to have
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a plant here.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Are we going to remove all that red tape? Is
that our plan? That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
We have a terrible, terrible environment for the manufacturing sector now,
a terrible business environment. That's why they move to places
like China and Vietnam and things like that. Companies in
general would rather do business in a more.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Stable like ours.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They packed up that business and shipped it overseas because
the United States of America allowed Democrats to turn this
country hostile to business, so business left.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's true. That's true. So that's that. Now.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
As far as the pro tear of people, remember John
Carney came on the show, we talked about this.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I do think it will help on a longer term basis,
not immediately. Do you think there will be some price increases.
I don't think they're going to be that much. I
don't think they're gonna we won't see anything like what
we saw during the Biden years, where in plasure got
up to nine percent. But I do think we'll see
a half point of extra inflation. I don't think that lasts.
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So In other words, we'll get a one time price
hike in something subject to tariffs, but it only part
of the teriff will get passed through to consumers, and
once that comes through, you won't get year after year
after year of price. So I think we'll have a
one time adjustment. But further on down the road, as
we are producing more goods and services more efficiently in
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the United States, when we are able to move trade
away from where they have located it into places where
it stuff could actually be efficiently produced, I think we're
actually going to see cheap goods, more reliable production, more
reliable supply chains. We're going to be safer and more
secure economically because of what we're doing today.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Okay, that's what John Conney thinks. John Connie is very
sharp gun and I will say I hope so. And
for the Trump administration saying I hope that's the case.
Little short term pain, but then before too long people
were seeing benefits. Look guys like billionaire Bill Ackman, he's
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out there talking about day he supported Trump. He's a
former left he supported Trump. He warns of an economic
nuclear winter, and he's saying things like, you know, we
didn't vote for this.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Bill, I would push back on the we didn't vote
for this. Trump's talked about tariffs endlessly.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
We're gonna put tariffs on cars that are coming into
our country. Smart tariffs will not create inflation. They will
combat inflation. We're losing two trillion dollars a year with
the tariffs. We can get that number down to a
very manageable number if you do that.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
We're putting a two hundred percent tariff on everything that
you want to sell into the United States, and if
they don't agree with us, we'll put a tariff of
approximately one hundred to two hundred percent on each car.
We have long been taken advantage of by other countries.
They've taken advantage of us for years.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
We lose jobs, we lose revenue, and they gain everything.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
And we're really ready to make changes like nobody had
seen before.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Okay, so you can't say we didn't vote for this.
Donald Trump has not been shy about it, and you
definitely didn't lie about it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
My final word on.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
This before we get to and Kelly, and this will
be the word that probably offends everybody, is this, I
don't know whether or not these tariffs will work. And
no one else does either. I don't know whether this
is going to cause economic nuclear winter or if we're
going to actually get our manufacturing re short and everybody
acting like they're sure about which way it's going to
go is lying to you.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
They're not sure. So let's approach this in this way.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
For the anti tariff people, you can argue against the tariffs.
There's plenty of great arguments to make against the tariffs.
Do the best you can to not sound like an
elitist snob who doesn't care about blue collar people or
blue collar towns as you speak about them, because I
see a lot about that. So if you're anti tariff,
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be really careful about that. Now, for you pro tariff people,
in case you thought that was only going to go
one way, be very very careful. You don't sound like
an envious little communist when you talk about pro tariffs,
because I've seen a lot of that. I don't care
about your four one K whatever boomer.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Little communist, the little Marxi marxisty. Don't be full of
MV either.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Let's see how it goes, cross our fingers and hope
for the best.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Let's talk to Megan Kelly about it.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Joining me now the amazing Megan Kelly, journalist everybody watches
listens to her show on Serious Exam and I guess
I have to introduce her as MK Media's Megan Kelly.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Megan, what's the MK Media?
Speaker 8 (14:32):
We are expanding and get bringing other podcasts into the
MK fold, and by that I mean we're going to
help other podcasters make it in this lane. We're starting
with three shows that we're going to help promote and
help produce and just try to get some more sane
voices out there. Jesse. As you know, they're few and
far between.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
There are few and far between.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And I'm glad actually you're doing it very much because
I tell people all the time that you should start
a podcast. So people will complain about this guy or
that guy or Meghan Kelly or me or something like that, and.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I say, start one. Everyone should.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Maybe you have something interesting to say, maybe you don't,
but you don't know until you try.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
I totally agree with that. And so my feeling, having
been doing it now for five years, is it actually
is trickier than it looks to make it hit, you know,
to like grow, it really is. And so if we
see somebody who we think is really talented or whose
voice we think should be amplified, we'll have him on
the show. Like you, you don't need our help, but
we loved talking to you. But there are people who
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don't have your platform, and you know your experience doing this,
and so we're kind of looking for people like that
who need some help like boosting their show off the
ground and struck a deal with a three providers or
podcasters who we think are very diverse and like where
they're going to come into this world from. So I
think you'll love it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You're gonna like these shows, no doubt everything Megan Kelly
touches turns to gold anyway, all right, Megan, tariffs. Speaking
of gold, we're all buying it right now because stock
market sucks. What are your thoughts on the tariffs?
Speaker 8 (16:02):
I'm so sick of talking about the tariffs? Is it
just me you? I refuse to get upset about this.
Don't look at your four O one K, just don't
look at it. Don't make any don't sell anything, and
don't withdraw anything right now. Just wait it out, wait
for the market volatility to settle, which it will. Take
a deep breath, and I really feel like just give
Trump a chance. You know, the main people complaining about
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what's happening right now are rich media types who are
watching their own very lucrative stock portfolios. Well, this wasn't
done for them. Not everything Trump is going to do
will be for them. This is an attempt to restore
some possibility for the bottom half when it comes to
the earners, and I think those who are in the
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top half should maybe just be a little quieter while
we see whether this can work, while we see whether
there really is a chance to bring back manufacturing to
the United States or to reorder this globalized world situation
that has not been working very well for the guys
who built this country. So I don't think in any
world does Trump let this thing go into a recession
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and let the pain be fell up and down the
economic line for very long. I just he's too much
of a politician for that. He loves to be loved,
and he loves rich people. Loves rich people, so he's
not going to let those people suffer for that long.
But just be quiet for a little bit and let
the people who are at the bottom half of the
economic ladder have a shot at a life that used
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to be the norm here in America. That's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I'll say this about rich people, they always have good
seats to the game. You always want to be friends
with some rich people because they always have some kind
of choice, luxury box or something like that.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
If you, if you butter, you know, a couple of
people is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It is, It is, all right, Megan, Brooke Rawlins was
on with Jake Tapper and she kind of dunked on him.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
It was hilarious. Who it was.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
You've got two days of data. Everyone is on your
side on the left is freaking not on the left.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
But at the end of the day, listen this whole concept,
all right.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Jake, Thank you Megan. Why do they have to do this?
What is it about this?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Everybody with two eyes and two ears knows that Jake
Tapper is on the left?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Is it really a.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Market for someone on the left who pretends to not.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Be I I think I don't actually know what his
political positions are, but there's no question he can't stand Trump,
no question. And so I mean, and I think that's
what Brooke is picking up on right, It's like, you
obviously can't stand the president. I work for the President,
and you're coming at me with your questions from a
from a place of not being able to stand President Trump.
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And this is like the discussion I had with the
New York Times a week ago. I went into the
buildings there Jesse sat down in the belly of the beast,
and I was trying to say, like, if the Times
would just own its bias, it would really go a
long way toward defanging some of us on the right
and the many, many attacks we launch on you. If
you would just be honest about your bias, you don't
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have to be so defensive about it, you know. This
is what I was saying to this woman, Lulu Garcia
Navarro at the Times and about the Times, And I
really think this is true for most journalists in jeekes,
Like in his case, he should have said exactly where
he is. He should have said, like there's no that
was an opportunity he wants to come out with I'm
not actually a leftist. That's great, I'm open minded. Where
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do you stand? That's what also needs to happen in
order for people to actually start trusting you and your opinions.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Megan, you always seem to get your hands on some
good juicy exclusives. Let's talk about the manifesto, the Nashville manifesto.
Everyone remembers that terrible, terrible school shooting with that tranny shooter,
and it was it was bad. Well, the FBI tried
to hide it. You got your hands on it.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What happened?
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Yeah, Biden's FBI tried to hide it and did hide it,
and the Nashville Police were keeping it behind locked doors.
And it wasn't until Trump and Cash Pattel got in
charge and took over the FBI that they finally made
sure it got out there. And you know, they gave
us permission to reveal that they are the ones who
gave it to us, the FBI, And so we have it,
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and we went through it, and it's a thousand plus
pages and it's deeply disturbing, and there's no reason for
any of us to spend a lot of time thinking
about what this sick, sick woman was thinking. But we
have to spend just some time because there's a reason
they hit it from us for two years. There is
a reason. The little that they reported out last week
the Nashville Police was a forty eight page document that
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basically excuse the whole gender thing as a non factor,
this wasn't what caused it, and put almost nothing, I
mean literally one paragraph of a nothing burger in there
when it comes to this woman Audrey. I'm not going
to say her last name. I'm just saying it because
you need to know what the trans thing and gender
one paragraph. Well, we look through all eleven hundred pages.
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So she was obsessed, Jesse obsessed with the gender thing,
and not just the gender thing. I mean, but I
mean like page after page on the gender stuff, Like
this was not a one off. This is not just
like maybe I'll try him. No, this she was deeply
disturbed and angry over the fact that she didn't know
more about the trans options when she was younger, and
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people were calling her she and her instead of he
and him and saw on. But it was on top
of that, like a syllabus of information that you would
get at Brown University or Harvard or any of these
leftist universities. Right now, Jesse on how how much she
hates America, how evil America is, how terrible it is
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present day to black and brown people, how she hates
being white whites ruined everything. She's obsessed with Ray she's
obsessed with gender. She absolutely loads the country. And to
me it became very clear and reading page after page
why they wanted to hide this because this is their agenda.
I mean, this is all the stuff they tell shove
down the throats of our children, trying to tell us
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that this is what you have to study and believe
to be kind. And this woman still called manifesto whatever
you want to call it, it's multiple pages and multiple documents,
just puts the lie to that being any sort of
force for good.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Megan.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Honestly, maybe the sickest part of this whole thing is
that the FBI hit it and look, I like Cash,
I'm a fan and frankly a friend of Dan Bongino.
So this is not about those two guys. But Megan,
you tell me the federal Law Enforcement arm of the
United States of America spend three years burying a manifesto
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because it might make tranny people look bad.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Megan, I tell.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You, that's an organization that doesn't need a little nip
here and a little tuck there. That's an organization that
cannot be saved.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
What do you say, I agree with the words you
just spoke. It's it's sick. We've I don't know how
many school shootings I've covered since I became a reporter.
Jesse Man, I was on campus at Virginia Tech when
that happened, and I was a very new reporter, still
living in DC. I've gone through a lot of these.
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I don't remember one where they wouldn't give us the
so called manifesto, and all along we've been wondering, like,
what the hell's in this document that it's you know,
we can't see it. This is the one that we
can't see. No, there's nothing so uniquely disturbing. They're all
deeply disturbing. They all talk about, you know, the worst
of the worst things they want to do. What's different
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about this one is every left wing ideology is touted, embraced, espoused.
She's taken it to heart. And you know, Nashville pdeo,
Nashville's Democrat, Nashville went for Kamala. Just because this in
Tennessee doesn't mean it's right wing. And so I really
think this is a leftist town under a leftist government.
And the same for the FBI, for its tenure over
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the recent years, that decided their favorite issues. We're not
going to take a beating once this thing came out,
and so they already got their wish in large part
by making a drag for two years.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
You know.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
Stephen Crowder, to his credit, got his hands on three
pages of it. That was helpful, but they didn't want
us to see it. And enough time has passed now
that the attention on it will be diminished. So they
won in part. But you're right, as far as the
FBI itself goes, I think we're going to have to
go down to the studs to get anything that comes
close to being useful.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Megan, thank you for everything. I appreciate it. I'll talk
to you soon. All right.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That's actually going to lead us perfectly into cultural rot
because we have to discuss something that's still kind of
lurking there underneath the surface, if you will. Before we
get to that, let's not forget that Corporate America has
done everything in their power to ensure the cultural rot
of this country. They're not passively sitting on the sidelines
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of money and they have invested in the filth of
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Speaker 3 (25:40):
We'll be back. Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So I just wanted to just for a couple of
minutes here. I wanted to talk about something that that's
been on my mind as it pertains to the culture war.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Because there is we went through.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We just lived through this kind of weird little period
and it to be hard to tell where we are
in the culture war fight. And here's what I mean,
the weird little period we went through. Joe Biden got
installed as president, and that really during that four years,
that was what felt like peak demonic culture war stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You had Tranny's in the White House was it was.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Dei everywhere open promotion of anti white racism.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
It was just the worst thing in.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
The world and the United States of America for a
lot of different reasons. Remember all, not everyone votes the
way you vote or way I vote for the same reasons.
The United States of America.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It really felt like the country as.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
A whole broke against that when we elected Donald Trump.
It felt like that, right, it felt like that was
an important part of it. That's why the election was
so overwhelming, every county shifting to the right. It felt
like a re action of a lot of things. But
it most definitely felt like a rejection of that. And
to be honest, a lot of it was, you know,
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the men and women's sports things. Americans just kind of
we had enough of the nutty, demonic insanity, okay, And in.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Some ways we're right.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
In some ways that's that's a correct way of thinking.
America did reject it, it did push it away. I
mean the Snow White, the new Disney snow White movie
that bombed. The American people would have gone to see
a new snow white people snow White movie, they would
have flocked to go see one.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
But these are the stars.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
I mean, you know, the original cartoon came out in
nineteen thirty seven and very evidently so. There is a
big focus on her love story with a guy who
literally stalks her weird, weird, So we didn't do that
this time.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
So no prince or a different kind of prince.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
We have a different approach to what I'm sure a
lot of people will assume is a love story just
because like, we can't a guy in the movie. It's
no longer nineteen thirty seven, And we absolutely wrote a
snow white that is.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Not going to bed by the prince.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
He's not going to be saved with the prince, and
she's not going to be dreaming about true love.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
The American people saw enough of that and said, ah,
not interested. So that's good, that's good, Like this is
all good. We did reject it. But I get this
sense that the American people, or that those of us
on the right, that we feel like America has won
the culture war. Listen, these people are demonic. I'm talking
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about the people who are trying to tear apart the
moral fabric of this country. They're demonic. This whole trans
evil to that. This is demonic stuff, and demons don't quit.
Evil doesn't quit. We are in the ocean, and we
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fought off the shark.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
For now. We did not kill the show.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I say this because we need to remain ever vigilant,
and we need to stay on the attack. They may
be on the run, even they may have turtled up
a little bit, they are not defeated by any stretch
of the imagination. Continue to put your money where your
morals are. Continue to be vigilant. Be involved in your schools,
pay attention to what your children listen to and watch.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Be vigilant.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
All right, all right, let's talk to Robbie Starbuck about
some of this vigilance. Before we get to that, let
me talk to you about sleeping well. About dream powder
from being I love it so much. I love it
because look does it do I sound like I love it?
I had some again last night. I had a couple
of hot chocolate. It's like nine o'clock. I was up
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with the kids. We were hanging out, and I just
wanted to make sure because today's Monday. I wanted to
make sure I had a good night's sleep. So I
had a little cup of hot chocolate. But it was
with dream powder, cinnamon chocolate with all these natural things
in it, like magnesium and melatonin, things like that, and
you just leap like a baby and you wake up
(30:09):
feeling great. Six point thirty this morning, I was out
of bed skipping around the house.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Not really, that'd be weird, but you understand what I mean.
I want to sleep like that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Up to forty percent off at shotbeam dot com slash
Jesse Kelly, We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Remember, the communist is always trying to get his sick
religion as part of the law. This is so he
can use the law, so we can use, frankly, law
enforcement to force you to succumb to his will. That
the communists have done this forever in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, they greenlit a bill that.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Could classify misgendering somebody as a form of harassment and discrimination.
Why why would you bother doing such a thing so
they can send the police to kick in your door
and arrest you for not acknowledging reality.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's a sick bunch of people joining me now. Someone
who's very familiar with them, Robbie's Starbuck visiting fellow. Congratulations
on that, by the way, Robbie at the Heritage Foundation. Robbie,
a lot of people because it feels like the culture
war is kind of breaking our way right now, could
have convinced themselves that they're on the run. These people
are not.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
On the run, are they.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
No.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
No, In any single state where they have enough institutional
power to do things like this, they will continue to
do it. They're doubling down on crazy. And that's very
important for people to understand because folks, after the election,
we're thinking, Okay, maybe the Democrats or the left in
general will sort of moderate on these issues, and we're
not seeing that.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
Unfortunately. I'd love to see more of it.
Speaker 11 (31:49):
I'd love to see these groups go and say, oh,
let's move to a moderate place, but it's just not
happening on the left. And so I think folks have
to understand in these states that are you know, very
very much on the left, you're going to continue to
see this type of policy push. And I think what's
most dangerous about it is that bill's like this actually
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seek to create custody decisions on the basis of whether
or not a parent is quote affirming of the gender
identity of their kids. So you could actually see many parents,
and you will see many parents losing custody of their
kids if they are not quote affirming of that child,
if they decide their transgender.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Robbie, can you explain why they won't back off of
the trans stuff, because of every policy on the left,
you could go down the list, and yes they're unpopular
on virtually all of them, but every single poll shows
this one is a loser, and an unbelievable loser for
not even political people, people in the middle. It's just
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a loser for the left. Yet they can't let it go. Why, Well,
that's how.
Speaker 11 (32:58):
You know that leftism has become sort of like a
pseudo religion, right, because that's the type of group that
will defend something that's extraordinarily unpopular if it feels like
it's part of the tenets of their religion, and they
just can't let it go. And so that's what we're
seeing is is the left broadly holding onto these eighty
twenty issues where eighty percent of society is wholly opposed
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to it on a moral level, on just to a
pure intellectual sanity based level, and they're they're holding on
to it. And I think the only thing that you
can you can sort of get from this is that,
you know, in these recent years where you've seen a
shift away from the left among many different people who
used to be on the left, you can really just
kind of count on that to continue, where folks leave
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because the left is just getting so crazy in terms
of their adoption of these policies.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Robbie, the Supreme Court did just rule in favor of
the Trump administration. I mean, I guess we have one
of those every now and then when it comes to DEI,
the education departments freezing DEI grants. So maybe maybe at
least as far as the courts.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Go, we have some sanity coming back.
Speaker 11 (34:05):
Yeah, you know, let me put my Heritage Foundation visiting
fellow hat on.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Now.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
When I look at a decision like this, what I
see is some semblance of sanity, because the courts absolutely
should be able to see very clearly the DEI in
all the forms we're seeing it functionally violate the law
in many different senses, and so I think this is
a good step in the right direction. Ultimately, there's a
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number of DEI based issues that are going to have
to go up to the Supreme Court, and I think
we're going to have to have consistent decision after consistent
decision that these policies do in fact violate the law.
And I think companies in many respects are preparing for
that moment and they know that that's coming down down
the pipe here is like we're going to see these
policies crushed.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Robbie, keep that Heritage Foundation hat on, because you've actually
started a new initiative with them.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 10 (34:59):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
So, I've been doing this work since last year in June,
going company by company eliminating woke policies and DEI policies
for major corporations, and now there's short of new tools
in this deal with the Heritage Foundation where we're going
to have this Capital Markets initiative and thinking about not
only how you eliminate this insanity from corporate America and
corporations at large all across the globe, but really also
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how we can make sure the conservatives like us have
our voice heard in the marketplace so that wokeness and
all this craziness we've seen in recent years never happens again.
That means using our money wisely, That means using our
power collectively wisely, and having a voice in these rooms,
on these boards and things along those lines. So we're
going to be looking at this as a multi pronged
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effort to essentially bring sanity back and focus on excellence
in America once again, get out of this business of
division and wokeness and embrace the future where we really
win again in corporate America because we want to see
America great, and for America to be great, our companies
have to be great, and they cannot be prisoners to
this crazy ideology.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Robbie, how do we lose them?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I understand you just got all over pepsi, and I
love that you feel free to talk about it. But
how in the will did this happen? When I was
a kid, a pepsi commercial with some you know, professional
athletes simping a pepsi after a touchdown or that was
just like normal stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
But now it's sick? Why?
Speaker 10 (36:19):
How it's idiological capture?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
You know?
Speaker 11 (36:22):
I mean, in many respects, a lot of this came
from the academic level upstream into these companies. And so
what I mean by that is you had wokeness infect
the schools first, right, and then a lot of those
students who you know, were sort of raised up in
this environment of safe spaces and coloring books on college
campuses for their safety and you know, for them to
feel okay, they moved upstream into PR jobs and into
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HR jobs. And then George Floyd happened and After that happened,
there was a huge push from those HR departments, from
those PR departments to create DEI departments, and the pitch
from them to executives was essentially, this is how we
signaled to the public that we are not racist, and
if you don't do this, we're going to look like
a racist company. And so a lot of those executives
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fell for it, hook line and sinker, and they poured
millions and millions, in some cases billions of dollars into
these initiatives. And what did they get back for it.
Nothing good. It has hurt their companies year over year
to an alarming degree. Executives realize it now, and they've
been looking for how they get out from under it,
and we've been giving them every reason to get out
from under it. And so I think in many ways
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we're doing a service for corporate America because we're helping
them to get out from under this extremely unpopular, expensive,
wasteful ideology. But that's how we got here is really
essentially activists making their way into corporate America and forcing
their ideologies into the actual company itself. I mean, it
got to a point of absurdity where we saw the
number one resource that was being recommended by major Fortune
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five hundred corporations in their DII resources section was Ebram
Kenny's How to Be an Anti Racist book, which says
to be anti racist, you must oppose capitalism. That is
the core message of the book theme. Right, So you've
got major corporations who rely on capitalism to survive saying
to their employees, hey, read this book that essentially teaches
you to be a communist or says you're a racist
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bigot if you're not a communist. So, you know, we
got to that point of absurdity, and now we're turning back,
and we're turning back hard, and I think you're going
to see sanity overwhelmingly be the overarching thought process of
corporations over the next year.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Robbie, I can't help but think it's April now, which
means June cometh. And we all know what June has
become in this dagone country pride month where we all
have to get waterboarded with rainbow propaganda. But it seemed
like it was turned down, the volume of it was
turned down last year.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Am I just old and out of touch?
Speaker 11 (38:44):
Or was it the volume was turned down last year?
But it's going to look very different this year. In fact,
that separate from what I'm doing with Heritage Foundation, I
on a personal level with my team have notified most
major corporations that they should be very very careful in
this upcoming Pride month, you know, because we are going
to have people filming at a lot of the major events,
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and we're going to be egoied about who sponsored what,
and if children are exposed to inappropriate content, the public's
going to know about it. And so companies I think
are being very careful about this because I've seen the
news headlines from you know, legacy and media essentially crying
that all these Pride events are losing their corporate funding,
and I'd like to think we played a big part
in that at the end of the day. Also, there's
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just a general fear that's palpable among these companies that
they don't want to be the next bud Light or
the next tractor supplier, the next John Deere, the next
Charlie Davidson.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Right, So they're just.
Speaker 11 (39:36):
Avoiding this at all costs, I think in most cases,
but there will be some stupid companies that go out
there and they embrace this fully and we're going to
be there when inappropriate things happen, and we're going to
make sure the public knows about it.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Robbie, Finally, before I let you go, will you talk
about the Human Rights Campaign the HRC. Obviously you're well
familiar with them, and they're familiar with you, But most
people they don't understand what this group is, how powerful
this group is, and the part.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
They play in so much of this stuff. Talk about
this mafia group.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
Yeah, in my view, they are just pure poison, you know,
maybe poison packed into a donut. So they wave the
donut right in front of companies and then they buy it
and they swallow the poison. That's the best way I
could put it. A very strange donut that's filled with poison.
But essentially, this group operates as a cartel to to
push the LGBTQ mindset, policy set into major corporations, and
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so they do that in number of different ways. One
of the ways they do it is through this CI
scoring system. The CI scoring system, which many people may
have heard of. It essentially says you have to have
met certain benchmarks to get one hundred percent score right,
and there's financial benefits to doing so. So for a
long time, over previous years, these financial institutions were actually
(40:53):
giving companies preferential treatment if they got one hundred percent
score on their HRC scoring system. So essentially what it
says is, you have to allow men in the bathroom
with women if they say they're a woman. You've got
to pay for sex changes. You've got to pay for
sex changes even for dependents of employees. If you want
one hundred percent score, you've got to have internal LGBTQ
events at the office, you've got to show that you've
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got to provide it to the HRC evidence that you did. So,
you've got to support outside LGBTQ plus events a number
of them, and there's more down that list. It goes
on and on and on, but essentially you have to
do all these things to be able to get that
one hundred percent score, and then you have to publicly
boast it.
Speaker 10 (41:30):
Right.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
So many companies were doing this until we came along
last year and we made the pitch to them essentially
that they need to drop all third party scoring systems
because in essence, my concern for companies is that they
shouldn't be doing the Robbie scoring system, and they also
shouldn't be doing the HRC score scoring system. And that's
because if you've got these scoring systems that are diametrically opposed,
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what's going to happen is you're going to get squeezed.
And companies should not want to get squeezed by both
left wing and right wing consumers. They should want to
be able to serve everybody if they're public company. Right,
if you're in that fortune five hundred and you're on
the stock market, you want to make the most money
for your shareholders you possibly can.
Speaker 10 (42:06):
And to do that you need to get out of
divisive politics.
Speaker 11 (42:08):
And that's been my overarching message to them is get
out of the business of division and be focused on
making money again. And the way to do that is
not to get involved with any of these third party
groups that want to do a scoring system that is
going to divide us.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Robbie, keep going, my friend. I appreciate you very much.
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Speaker 1 (43:43):
All right, It is time to lighten the mood. And
I've got to tell you something, all right. I like Subway.
I can't help it. I like Subway. When I go
to Subway, well, first, first, you know, before I even
(44:03):
go into their new thing, you should understand that the
best cookies in the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
They're served at Subway. Did you know that that little
cookie display they have? I bet you bypass it every time. Nah,
I don't want any chocolate chip.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
I don't want any oakmeal rays and Subway has the
best cookies in the United States of America. I won't
walk in one without coming out with a couple of cookies.
You know that there's a little tidbit. Two, there's Southwest
Chipotle Southwest? What is in that bottle? Southwest? Whatever they're
Southwest sauce is Chipotle. I get a cheese steak, double cheese,
(44:39):
of course, and I just drown it in that sauce
I had. Those poor women at Subway just snows that
stuff all over it. It's fantastic, fantastic. I used to
eat two of them when I was in the Marine Corps.
Two foot longs. Can't eat like that anymore. But still,
I'm a Subway fan. And so you might turn your
nose up at this, but I won't.
Speaker 12 (45:00):
The Dorito's foot long nachos a little bit early, so
of course we got tryumph. Let's see what these look
like all look at that. You start with a bag
of chips. You get your choice of chicken or steak.
They've got tomatoes, they got onions, They've got like the
regular cheese, they've got the Chipotle sauce. They've got some jlopenos.
They're a bit of a mess, as you expect from nachos.
But this is a nice little snack for five dollars.
(45:20):
It doesn't feel like a bad value, especially when you
get some steak. Get all the toppings on there. It's
got a little bit of heat, it's got some good flavor.
It is a mess, but they did give me a four.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Oh sorry, I'm in I see them
Let's honor the fallen. Let's talk about tariffs. Meghan Kelly
is here with an announcement. Robbie Starbuck is here with
an announcement.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What a show tonight. But I'm right now, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So before we get into all the tariff arguments and
the markets and Trump and all that other stuff, that'll well,
it'll be a good time. I'm sure I'll offend everybody there.
Let's do something that we have to do on this show.
We hate it, but we feel obligated to do it
to honor the fallen, especially the fallen in training.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's a big thing for me.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It always has been, it always will be. When people
die in military service or law enforcement fire.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, these dangerous jobs.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They're dangerous jobs, and training for these jobs is dangerous
by necessity. It has to be dangerous, otherwise you can't
train properly. And people die and train, and they're oftentimes
forgotten and disregarded because it's not glorious. You didn't die
in battle, but it's every bit as heroic as the
one who did. They serve their country in a dangerous
(01:12):
job and they gave their lives. Last week, four US
Army soldiers died during a training exercise in Lithuania. We
were waiting, as we do until their names were finally
released so we can honor them by name. They are
a staff Sergeant Jose Duenes, Junior staff Sergeant Van F. Franco,
Pfc Dante D. Titano, and staff Sergeant Troy S. Newts
(01:37):
and Collins. The oldest is twenty eight, youngest was twenty one.
They gave their lives for this country. And I've had
people email in because they knew we were going to
do that as soon as soon as the training accident
was announced, they knew we were going to honor them.
And I did have some people asking how can this happen?
Because they were part of an armored group. Armored you
(01:59):
would think of it as tanks, but not all armor
is tanks either way, an armored vehicle and they ended
up submerged in a swamp. They drown, They drown with
their vehicle in a swamp. And for people who don't know,
they don't realize how easy this can happen. You see,
when you see a tank, we'll make it about a tank.
When you see a tank, you see this big, powerful machine,
(02:21):
all this armor on it and It is really great, right,
it has all this firepower and the guns, and of
course you have the protection of being inside of the
tank and all that stuff is true, but all that
stuff comes with a sacrifice. Everything is a given tank,
isn't it. You can't see. You just can't see. Having
been in armor before, it was one of the worst
(02:43):
things about it. When we were in armor in Iraq,
and ours were called amtraks. There were troop carriers, but
you were fairly protected, somewhat protected inside. And even knowing that,
oftentimes we would bust the hatches open, the the door
in the roof, we bust the hatches open, and we'd
stick out, stick our heads out, stick our upper bodies out,
(03:06):
because you can't see anything inside. If you're about to
drive off a bridge into a ditch, drive over.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You can't see.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
The driver can't see, You can't see. And that's just
how it goes. And so these kind of things happen.
So we honor them, pray for them, pray for their families.
All right, All right, now, let's talk about something else.
Showing the tariffs. It's all anybody can talk about the tariffs.
This the tariffstat I am currently fielding more phone calls
(03:36):
and text messages from friends, and you can possibly imagine.
I actually had a conversation with a friend. On Saturday night.
My wife and I got with a bunch of neighbor
friends and we were just watching the final four games.
The games were on and we were eating pizza and
sitting around and talking and immediately two different dudes came in,
jump me, Jesse, what's going on with the tariffs, Jesse.
(03:57):
I checked my app. We're losing all this money, Jesse.
This so I know what you're going through. And Donald
Trump is talking about it'll be painful for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Em in the market.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
At some point, you're unwilling to tolerate this idea of
a Trump put is they're a threshold.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I think your question should have said stupid.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I mean, I think it's a I don't want anything
to go down, but sometimes you have to take medicine
to fix something. And we have such a horrible We
have been treated so badly by other countries because we
had stupid leadership that allowed this to happen. They took
our businesses, they took our money, they took our jobs.
(04:40):
They moved into Mexico, they moved it too Canada, and
they moved a lot of it to China, and it's
not sustainable.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
We're not going to do it now.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
We have hundreds of billions of dollars is pouring into
our country on a monthly basis. It's pooring. It's already
started because they put tariffs on, and eventually it's going
to straighten out and our country and shrunk again.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Okay, what I'm about to say is we have a
little tariff talk. It may make you feel better, it
may make you feel worse.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You may get mad at me. That's a standard day anyway.
So here's what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
First, what did I tell you when Donald Trump first
got elected. We talked about this before got elected. We
talked about it a lot since.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He got elected.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Donald Trump intends to do big things, big things. He
got shot in the head. This is his last four years.
He can't run for re election. He's a billionaire, former
and current president of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Guys like that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Guys like that, they don't look at their lives and
their legacy the same way you or I necessarily do
you know what kind.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Of legacy am I going to leave behind?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I think about my sons. Right, are my sons going
to be taken care of? How are their families? Are
they going to That's what I think of is my legacy?
What am I going to leave behind? Guys like Donald
Trump think about what monuments are going to be named
after them?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
They just don't. They look at life differently. And Trump's
four years are going to be full of him attempting
big things, which he's dead serious about. I've told you
about this. He's dead serious about the Panama Canal. He's
dead serious about Greenland, the Gulf of America. He's serious
about these things. And he's serious when it comes to tariffs, protectionism,
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fair trade, whatever word you want to put on it,
whether you love them or hate them, Donald Trump is dead,
dead serious about them. And look, we've got guys like
Lutnick out there talking about, well they're negotiating. Fifty percent
of these countries have already reached out to negotiate. Donald
Trump is flat out come out and said, well, I mean, look,
negotiate all you want.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Some of it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
But I do want to solve the deficit problem that
we have with China, with the europe Union and other
nations and they're gonna have to do that, and if
they want to talk about that, I'm open to talking.
But otherwise, why would I want to talk?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You serious? So he means it.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Okay, Now, let's go with this from kind of a
different angle than maybe you've heard. I understand there are
people who are thrilled about these tariffs, thrilled about them, and.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
The people who are thrilled about them.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Maybe that's you will talk about things like bringing back manufacturing.
They're correct about that. We need to bring back manufacturing.
They're correct about that goal. We need to bring back manufacturing.
You have to make things in your country. Not everything,
but your country has to have the ability to make
things inside your borders. Otherwise you were at the mercy
of others, and that's not good. Okay, So that's good.
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The people who love tariffs, they're going to talk about
the rust belt and how it got that name.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I've lived it. That's my life.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I was born in a rust belt town on the
Ohio River, and I know exactly what it is. These
towns where the plant whatever that plant used to be
steel plant. Oftentimes, that doesn't matter which kind these towns
existed off the plant.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
That's where the men work.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's where oftentimes the women work. The businesses around that
plant were really centered around the plant and the plant workers.
The town was the plant. That's how what your dad did,
your granddad did, it's what you did. It was a
power plant and where I grew up in Toronto, Ohio,
but it was the same thing, the power plant. Everyone
worked at the plant or plant adjacent, right. And when
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the United States of America makes a focused decision and
we did to ship those jobs overseas, then it's not
just the plant that goes. The town goes. The future
of a lot of people go. And the people who
are pro tariffs who talk about that are one hundred
percent correct. It's been devastating. They should not be ignored.
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We can't become a country with no steel but a
great stock market. That doesn't work at all in that way.
So the pro teariff people are like that, don't worry
pro tearff people.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm going to come back to you in a moment. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
The anti tariff people they make great points too, as
a matter of fact, great points. They say things like, well,
you can't bring back manufacturing just with tariffs. You have
to make the business environment the labor environment better here.
Our environmental regulations alone make it virtually impossible to have
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a plant here.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Are we going to remove all that red tape? Is
that our plan? That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
We have a terrible, terrible environment for the manufacturing sector now,
a terrible business environment. That's why they move to places
like China and Vietnam and things like that. Companies in
general would rather do business in a more.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Stable like ours.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They packed up that business and shipped it overseas because
the United States of America allowed Democrats to turn this
country hostile to business, so business left.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's true. That's true. So that's that. Now.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
As far as the pro tear of people, remember John
Carney came on the show, we talked about this.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I do think it will help on a longer term basis,
not immediately. Do you think there will be some price increases.
I don't think they're going to be that much. I
don't think they're gonna we won't see anything like what
we saw during the Biden years, where in plasure got
up to nine percent. But I do think we'll see
a half point of extra inflation. I don't think that lasts.
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So In other words, we'll get a one time price
hike in something subject to tariffs, but it only part
of the teriff will get passed through to consumers, and
once that comes through, you won't get year after year
after year of price. So I think we'll have a
one time adjustment. But further on down the road, as
we are producing more goods and services more efficiently in
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the United States, when we are able to move trade
away from where they have located it into places where
it stuff could actually be efficiently produced, I think we're
actually going to see cheap goods, more reliable production, more
reliable supply chains. We're going to be safer and more
secure economically because of what we're doing today.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Okay, that's what John Conney thinks. John Connie is very
sharp gun and I will say I hope so. And
for the Trump administration saying I hope that's the case.
Little short term pain, but then before too long people
were seeing benefits. Look guys like billionaire Bill Ackman, he's
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out there talking about day he supported Trump. He's a
former left he supported Trump. He warns of an economic
nuclear winter, and he's saying things like, you know, we
didn't vote for this.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Bill, I would push back on the we didn't vote
for this. Trump's talked about tariffs endlessly.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
We're gonna put tariffs on cars that are coming into
our country. Smart tariffs will not create inflation. They will
combat inflation. We're losing two trillion dollars a year with
the tariffs. We can get that number down to a
very manageable number if you do that.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
We're putting a two hundred percent tariff on everything that
you want to sell into the United States, and if
they don't agree with us, we'll put a tariff of
approximately one hundred to two hundred percent on each car.
We have long been taken advantage of by other countries.
They've taken advantage of us for years.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
We lose jobs, we lose revenue, and they gain everything.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
And we're really ready to make changes like nobody had
seen before.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Okay, so you can't say we didn't vote for this.
Donald Trump has not been shy about it, and you
definitely didn't lie about it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
My final word on.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
This before we get to and Kelly, and this will
be the word that probably offends everybody, is this, I
don't know whether or not these tariffs will work. And
no one else does either. I don't know whether this
is going to cause economic nuclear winter or if we're
going to actually get our manufacturing re short and everybody
acting like they're sure about which way it's going to
go is lying to you.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
They're not sure. So let's approach this in this way.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
For the anti tariff people, you can argue against the tariffs.
There's plenty of great arguments to make against the tariffs.
Do the best you can to not sound like an
elitist snob who doesn't care about blue collar people or
blue collar towns as you speak about them, because I
see a lot about that. So if you're anti tariff,
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be really careful about that. Now, for you pro tariff people,
in case you thought that was only going to go
one way, be very very careful. You don't sound like
an envious little communist when you talk about pro tariffs,
because I've seen a lot of that. I don't care
about your four one K whatever boomer.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Little communist, the little Marxi marxisty. Don't be full of
MV either.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Let's see how it goes, cross our fingers and hope
for the best.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Let's talk to Megan Kelly about it.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Joining me now the amazing Megan Kelly, journalist everybody watches
listens to her show on Serious Exam and I guess
I have to introduce her as MK Media's Megan Kelly.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Megan, what's the MK Media?
Speaker 8 (14:32):
We are expanding and get bringing other podcasts into the
MK fold, and by that I mean we're going to
help other podcasters make it in this lane. We're starting
with three shows that we're going to help promote and
help produce and just try to get some more sane
voices out there. Jesse. As you know, they're few and
far between.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
There are few and far between.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And I'm glad actually you're doing it very much because
I tell people all the time that you should start
a podcast. So people will complain about this guy or
that guy or Meghan Kelly or me or something like that, and.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I say, start one. Everyone should.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Maybe you have something interesting to say, maybe you don't,
but you don't know until you try.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
I totally agree with that. And so my feeling, having
been doing it now for five years, is it actually
is trickier than it looks to make it hit, you know,
to like grow, it really is. And so if we
see somebody who we think is really talented or whose
voice we think should be amplified, we'll have him on
the show. Like you, you don't need our help, but
we loved talking to you. But there are people who
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don't have your platform, and you know your experience doing this,
and so we're kind of looking for people like that
who need some help like boosting their show off the
ground and struck a deal with a three providers or
podcasters who we think are very diverse and like where
they're going to come into this world from. So I
think you'll love it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You're gonna like these shows, no doubt everything Megan Kelly
touches turns to gold anyway, all right, Megan, tariffs. Speaking
of gold, we're all buying it right now because stock
market sucks. What are your thoughts on the tariffs?
Speaker 8 (16:02):
I'm so sick of talking about the tariffs? Is it
just me you? I refuse to get upset about this.
Don't look at your four O one K, just don't
look at it. Don't make any don't sell anything, and
don't withdraw anything right now. Just wait it out, wait
for the market volatility to settle, which it will. Take
a deep breath, and I really feel like just give
Trump a chance. You know, the main people complaining about
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what's happening right now are rich media types who are
watching their own very lucrative stock portfolios. Well, this wasn't
done for them. Not everything Trump is going to do
will be for them. This is an attempt to restore
some possibility for the bottom half when it comes to
the earners, and I think those who are in the
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top half should maybe just be a little quieter while
we see whether this can work, while we see whether
there really is a chance to bring back manufacturing to
the United States or to reorder this globalized world situation
that has not been working very well for the guys
who built this country. So I don't think in any
world does Trump let this thing go into a recession
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and let the pain be fell up and down the
economic line for very long. I just he's too much
of a politician for that. He loves to be loved,
and he loves rich people. Loves rich people, so he's
not going to let those people suffer for that long.
But just be quiet for a little bit and let
the people who are at the bottom half of the
economic ladder have a shot at a life that used
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to be the norm here in America. That's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I'll say this about rich people, they always have good
seats to the game. You always want to be friends
with some rich people because they always have some kind
of choice, luxury box or something like that.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
If you, if you butter, you know, a couple of
people is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It is, It is, all right, Megan, Brooke Rawlins was
on with Jake Tapper and she kind of dunked on him.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
It was hilarious. Who it was.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
You've got two days of data. Everyone is on your
side on the left is freaking not on the left.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
But at the end of the day, listen this whole concept,
all right.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Jake, Thank you Megan. Why do they have to do this?
What is it about this?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Everybody with two eyes and two ears knows that Jake
Tapper is on the left?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Is it really a.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Market for someone on the left who pretends to not.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Be I I think I don't actually know what his
political positions are, but there's no question he can't stand Trump,
no question. And so I mean, and I think that's
what Brooke is picking up on right, It's like, you
obviously can't stand the president. I work for the President,
and you're coming at me with your questions from a
from a place of not being able to stand President Trump.
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And this is like the discussion I had with the
New York Times a week ago. I went into the
buildings there Jesse sat down in the belly of the beast,
and I was trying to say, like, if the Times
would just own its bias, it would really go a
long way toward defanging some of us on the right
and the many, many attacks we launch on you. If
you would just be honest about your bias, you don't
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have to be so defensive about it, you know. This
is what I was saying to this woman, Lulu Garcia
Navarro at the Times and about the Times, And I
really think this is true for most journalists in jeekes,
Like in his case, he should have said exactly where
he is. He should have said, like there's no that
was an opportunity he wants to come out with I'm
not actually a leftist. That's great, I'm open minded. Where
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do you stand? That's what also needs to happen in
order for people to actually start trusting you and your opinions.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Megan, you always seem to get your hands on some
good juicy exclusives. Let's talk about the manifesto, the Nashville manifesto.
Everyone remembers that terrible, terrible school shooting with that tranny shooter,
and it was it was bad. Well, the FBI tried
to hide it. You got your hands on it.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What happened?
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Yeah, Biden's FBI tried to hide it and did hide it,
and the Nashville Police were keeping it behind locked doors.
And it wasn't until Trump and Cash Pattel got in
charge and took over the FBI that they finally made
sure it got out there. And you know, they gave
us permission to reveal that they are the ones who
gave it to us, the FBI, And so we have it,
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and we went through it, and it's a thousand plus
pages and it's deeply disturbing, and there's no reason for
any of us to spend a lot of time thinking
about what this sick, sick woman was thinking. But we
have to spend just some time because there's a reason
they hit it from us for two years. There is
a reason. The little that they reported out last week
the Nashville Police was a forty eight page document that
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basically excuse the whole gender thing as a non factor,
this wasn't what caused it, and put almost nothing, I
mean literally one paragraph of a nothing burger in there
when it comes to this woman Audrey. I'm not going
to say her last name. I'm just saying it because
you need to know what the trans thing and gender
one paragraph. Well, we look through all eleven hundred pages.
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So she was obsessed, Jesse obsessed with the gender thing,
and not just the gender thing. I mean, but I
mean like page after page on the gender stuff, Like
this was not a one off. This is not just
like maybe I'll try him. No, this she was deeply
disturbed and angry over the fact that she didn't know
more about the trans options when she was younger, and
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people were calling her she and her instead of he
and him and saw on. But it was on top
of that, like a syllabus of information that you would
get at Brown University or Harvard or any of these
leftist universities. Right now, Jesse on how how much she
hates America, how evil America is, how terrible it is
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present day to black and brown people, how she hates
being white whites ruined everything. She's obsessed with Ray she's
obsessed with gender. She absolutely loads the country. And to
me it became very clear and reading page after page
why they wanted to hide this because this is their agenda.
I mean, this is all the stuff they tell shove
down the throats of our children, trying to tell us
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that this is what you have to study and believe
to be kind. And this woman still called manifesto whatever
you want to call it, it's multiple pages and multiple documents,
just puts the lie to that being any sort of
force for good.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Megan.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Honestly, maybe the sickest part of this whole thing is
that the FBI hit it and look, I like Cash,
I'm a fan and frankly a friend of Dan Bongino.
So this is not about those two guys. But Megan,
you tell me the federal Law Enforcement arm of the
United States of America spend three years burying a manifesto
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because it might make tranny people look bad.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Megan, I tell.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You, that's an organization that doesn't need a little nip
here and a little tuck there. That's an organization that
cannot be saved.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
What do you say, I agree with the words you
just spoke. It's it's sick. We've I don't know how
many school shootings I've covered since I became a reporter.
Jesse Man, I was on campus at Virginia Tech when
that happened, and I was a very new reporter, still
living in DC. I've gone through a lot of these.
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I don't remember one where they wouldn't give us the
so called manifesto, and all along we've been wondering, like,
what the hell's in this document that it's you know,
we can't see it. This is the one that we
can't see. No, there's nothing so uniquely disturbing. They're all
deeply disturbing. They all talk about, you know, the worst
of the worst things they want to do. What's different
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about this one is every left wing ideology is touted, embraced, espoused.
She's taken it to heart. And you know, Nashville pdeo,
Nashville's Democrat, Nashville went for Kamala. Just because this in
Tennessee doesn't mean it's right wing. And so I really
think this is a leftist town under a leftist government.
And the same for the FBI, for its tenure over
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the recent years, that decided their favorite issues. We're not
going to take a beating once this thing came out,
and so they already got their wish in large part
by making a drag for two years.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
You know.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
Stephen Crowder, to his credit, got his hands on three
pages of it. That was helpful, but they didn't want
us to see it. And enough time has passed now
that the attention on it will be diminished. So they
won in part. But you're right, as far as the
FBI itself goes, I think we're going to have to
go down to the studs to get anything that comes
close to being useful.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Megan, thank you for everything. I appreciate it. I'll talk
to you soon. All right.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That's actually going to lead us perfectly into cultural rot
because we have to discuss something that's still kind of
lurking there underneath the surface, if you will. Before we
get to that, let's not forget that Corporate America has
done everything in their power to ensure the cultural rot
of this country. They're not passively sitting on the sidelines
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watching it happen. Corporate America has taken their gigantic sums
of money and they have invested in the filth of
this country. Pure Talk's never done that at and T
T Mobile, Verizon, they've done that. Pure Talk's never done it.
When you pay your cell phone bill, do you pay
for the cultural rot.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
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Speaker 1 (25:24):
You be on the same five G network, so you're
not sacrificing service.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It's easy to switch.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
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puretalk dot com, slash jessetv.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
We'll be back. Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So I just wanted to just for a couple of
minutes here. I wanted to talk about something that that's
been on my mind as it pertains to the culture war.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Because there is we went through.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We just lived through this kind of weird little period
and it to be hard to tell where we are
in the culture war fight. And here's what I mean,
the weird little period we went through. Joe Biden got
installed as president, and that really during that four years,
that was what felt like peak demonic culture war stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You had Tranny's in the White House was it was.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Dei everywhere open promotion of anti white racism.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
It was just the worst thing in.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
The world and the United States of America for a
lot of different reasons. Remember all, not everyone votes the
way you vote or way I vote for the same reasons.
The United States of America.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It really felt like the country as.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
A whole broke against that when we elected Donald Trump.
It felt like that, right, it felt like that was
an important part of it. That's why the election was
so overwhelming, every county shifting to the right. It felt
like a re action of a lot of things. But
it most definitely felt like a rejection of that. And
to be honest, a lot of it was, you know,
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the men and women's sports things. Americans just kind of
we had enough of the nutty, demonic insanity, okay, And in.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Some ways we're right.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
In some ways that's that's a correct way of thinking.
America did reject it, it did push it away. I
mean the Snow White, the new Disney snow White movie
that bombed. The American people would have gone to see
a new snow white people snow White movie, they would
have flocked to go see one.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
But these are the stars.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
I mean, you know, the original cartoon came out in
nineteen thirty seven and very evidently so. There is a
big focus on her love story with a guy who
literally stalks her weird, weird, So we didn't do that
this time.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
So no prince or a different kind of prince.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
We have a different approach to what I'm sure a
lot of people will assume is a love story just
because like, we can't a guy in the movie. It's
no longer nineteen thirty seven, And we absolutely wrote a
snow white that is.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Not going to bed by the prince.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
He's not going to be saved with the prince, and
she's not going to be dreaming about true love.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
The American people saw enough of that and said, ah,
not interested. So that's good, that's good, Like this is
all good. We did reject it. But I get this
sense that the American people, or that those of us
on the right, that we feel like America has won
the culture war. Listen, these people are demonic. I'm talking
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about the people who are trying to tear apart the
moral fabric of this country. They're demonic. This whole trans
evil to that. This is demonic stuff, and demons don't quit.
Evil doesn't quit. We are in the ocean, and we
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fought off the shark.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
For now. We did not kill the show.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I say this because we need to remain ever vigilant,
and we need to stay on the attack. They may
be on the run, even they may have turtled up
a little bit, they are not defeated by any stretch
of the imagination. Continue to put your money where your
morals are. Continue to be vigilant. Be involved in your schools,
pay attention to what your children listen to and watch.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Be vigilant.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
All right, all right, let's talk to Robbie Starbuck about
some of this vigilance. Before we get to that, let
me talk to you about sleeping well. About dream powder
from being I love it so much. I love it
because look does it do I sound like I love it?
I had some again last night. I had a couple
of hot chocolate. It's like nine o'clock. I was up
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with the kids. We were hanging out, and I just
wanted to make sure because today's Monday. I wanted to
make sure I had a good night's sleep. So I
had a little cup of hot chocolate. But it was
with dream powder, cinnamon chocolate with all these natural things
in it, like magnesium and melatonin, things like that, and
you just leap like a baby and you wake up
(30:09):
feeling great. Six point thirty this morning, I was out
of bed skipping around the house.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Not really, that'd be weird, but you understand what I mean.
I want to sleep like that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Up to forty percent off at shotbeam dot com slash
Jesse Kelly, We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Remember, the communist is always trying to get his sick
religion as part of the law. This is so he
can use the law, so we can use, frankly, law
enforcement to force you to succumb to his will. That
the communists have done this forever in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, they greenlit a bill that.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Could classify misgendering somebody as a form of harassment and discrimination.
Why why would you bother doing such a thing so
they can send the police to kick in your door
and arrest you for not acknowledging reality.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's a sick bunch of people joining me now. Someone
who's very familiar with them, Robbie's Starbuck visiting fellow. Congratulations
on that, by the way, Robbie at the Heritage Foundation. Robbie,
a lot of people because it feels like the culture
war is kind of breaking our way right now, could
have convinced themselves that they're on the run. These people
are not.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
On the run, are they.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
No.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
No, In any single state where they have enough institutional
power to do things like this, they will continue to
do it. They're doubling down on crazy. And that's very
important for people to understand because folks, after the election,
we're thinking, Okay, maybe the Democrats or the left in
general will sort of moderate on these issues, and we're
not seeing that.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
Unfortunately. I'd love to see more of it.
Speaker 11 (31:49):
I'd love to see these groups go and say, oh,
let's move to a moderate place, but it's just not
happening on the left. And so I think folks have
to understand in these states that are you know, very
very much on the left, you're going to continue to
see this type of policy push. And I think what's
most dangerous about it is that bill's like this actually
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seek to create custody decisions on the basis of whether
or not a parent is quote affirming of the gender
identity of their kids. So you could actually see many parents,
and you will see many parents losing custody of their
kids if they are not quote affirming of that child,
if they decide their transgender.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Robbie, can you explain why they won't back off of
the trans stuff, because of every policy on the left,
you could go down the list, and yes they're unpopular
on virtually all of them, but every single poll shows
this one is a loser, and an unbelievable loser for
not even political people, people in the middle. It's just
(32:52):
a loser for the left. Yet they can't let it go. Why, Well,
that's how.
Speaker 11 (32:58):
You know that leftism has become sort of like a
pseudo religion, right, because that's the type of group that
will defend something that's extraordinarily unpopular if it feels like
it's part of the tenets of their religion, and they
just can't let it go. And so that's what we're
seeing is is the left broadly holding onto these eighty
twenty issues where eighty percent of society is wholly opposed
(33:20):
to it on a moral level, on just to a
pure intellectual sanity based level, and they're they're holding on
to it. And I think the only thing that you
can you can sort of get from this is that,
you know, in these recent years where you've seen a
shift away from the left among many different people who
used to be on the left, you can really just
kind of count on that to continue, where folks leave
(33:41):
because the left is just getting so crazy in terms
of their adoption of these policies.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Robbie, the Supreme Court did just rule in favor of
the Trump administration. I mean, I guess we have one
of those every now and then when it comes to DEI,
the education departments freezing DEI grants. So maybe maybe at
least as far as the courts.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Go, we have some sanity coming back.
Speaker 11 (34:05):
Yeah, you know, let me put my Heritage Foundation visiting
fellow hat on.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Now.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
When I look at a decision like this, what I
see is some semblance of sanity, because the courts absolutely
should be able to see very clearly the DEI in
all the forms we're seeing it functionally violate the law
in many different senses, and so I think this is
a good step in the right direction. Ultimately, there's a
(34:31):
number of DEI based issues that are going to have
to go up to the Supreme Court, and I think
we're going to have to have consistent decision after consistent
decision that these policies do in fact violate the law.
And I think companies in many respects are preparing for
that moment and they know that that's coming down down
the pipe here is like we're going to see these
policies crushed.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Robbie, keep that Heritage Foundation hat on, because you've actually
started a new initiative with them.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 10 (34:59):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
So, I've been doing this work since last year in June,
going company by company eliminating woke policies and DEI policies
for major corporations, and now there's short of new tools
in this deal with the Heritage Foundation where we're going
to have this Capital Markets initiative and thinking about not
only how you eliminate this insanity from corporate America and
corporations at large all across the globe, but really also
(35:22):
how we can make sure the conservatives like us have
our voice heard in the marketplace so that wokeness and
all this craziness we've seen in recent years never happens again.
That means using our money wisely, That means using our
power collectively wisely, and having a voice in these rooms,
on these boards and things along those lines. So we're
going to be looking at this as a multi pronged
(35:43):
effort to essentially bring sanity back and focus on excellence
in America once again, get out of this business of
division and wokeness and embrace the future where we really
win again in corporate America because we want to see
America great, and for America to be great, our companies
have to be great, and they cannot be prisoners to
this crazy ideology.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Robbie, how do we lose them?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I understand you just got all over pepsi, and I
love that you feel free to talk about it. But
how in the will did this happen? When I was
a kid, a pepsi commercial with some you know, professional
athletes simping a pepsi after a touchdown or that was
just like normal stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
But now it's sick? Why?
Speaker 10 (36:19):
How it's idiological capture?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
You know?
Speaker 11 (36:22):
I mean, in many respects, a lot of this came
from the academic level upstream into these companies. And so
what I mean by that is you had wokeness infect
the schools first, right, and then a lot of those
students who you know, were sort of raised up in
this environment of safe spaces and coloring books on college
campuses for their safety and you know, for them to
feel okay, they moved upstream into PR jobs and into
(36:46):
HR jobs. And then George Floyd happened and After that happened,
there was a huge push from those HR departments, from
those PR departments to create DEI departments, and the pitch
from them to executives was essentially, this is how we
signaled to the public that we are not racist, and
if you don't do this, we're going to look like
a racist company. And so a lot of those executives
(37:06):
fell for it, hook line and sinker, and they poured
millions and millions, in some cases billions of dollars into
these initiatives. And what did they get back for it.
Nothing good. It has hurt their companies year over year
to an alarming degree. Executives realize it now, and they've
been looking for how they get out from under it,
and we've been giving them every reason to get out
from under it. And so I think in many ways
(37:27):
we're doing a service for corporate America because we're helping
them to get out from under this extremely unpopular, expensive,
wasteful ideology. But that's how we got here is really
essentially activists making their way into corporate America and forcing
their ideologies into the actual company itself. I mean, it
got to a point of absurdity where we saw the
number one resource that was being recommended by major Fortune
(37:48):
five hundred corporations in their DII resources section was Ebram
Kenny's How to Be an Anti Racist book, which says
to be anti racist, you must oppose capitalism. That is
the core message of the book theme. Right, So you've
got major corporations who rely on capitalism to survive saying
to their employees, hey, read this book that essentially teaches
you to be a communist or says you're a racist
(38:09):
bigot if you're not a communist. So, you know, we
got to that point of absurdity, and now we're turning back,
and we're turning back hard, and I think you're going
to see sanity overwhelmingly be the overarching thought process of
corporations over the next year.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Robbie, I can't help but think it's April now, which
means June cometh. And we all know what June has
become in this dagone country pride month where we all
have to get waterboarded with rainbow propaganda. But it seemed
like it was turned down, the volume of it was
turned down last year.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Am I just old and out of touch?
Speaker 11 (38:44):
Or was it the volume was turned down last year?
But it's going to look very different this year. In fact,
that separate from what I'm doing with Heritage Foundation, I
on a personal level with my team have notified most
major corporations that they should be very very careful in
this upcoming Pride month, you know, because we are going
to have people filming at a lot of the major events,
(39:06):
and we're going to be egoied about who sponsored what,
and if children are exposed to inappropriate content, the public's
going to know about it. And so companies I think
are being very careful about this because I've seen the
news headlines from you know, legacy and media essentially crying
that all these Pride events are losing their corporate funding,
and I'd like to think we played a big part
in that at the end of the day. Also, there's
(39:27):
just a general fear that's palpable among these companies that
they don't want to be the next bud Light or
the next tractor supplier, the next John Deere, the next
Charlie Davidson.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Right, So they're just.
Speaker 11 (39:36):
Avoiding this at all costs, I think in most cases,
but there will be some stupid companies that go out
there and they embrace this fully and we're going to
be there when inappropriate things happen, and we're going to
make sure the public knows about it.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Robbie, Finally, before I let you go, will you talk
about the Human Rights Campaign the HRC. Obviously you're well
familiar with them, and they're familiar with you, But most
people they don't understand what this group is, how powerful
this group is, and the part.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
They play in so much of this stuff. Talk about
this mafia group.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
Yeah, in my view, they are just pure poison, you know,
maybe poison packed into a donut. So they wave the
donut right in front of companies and then they buy it
and they swallow the poison. That's the best way I
could put it. A very strange donut that's filled with poison.
But essentially, this group operates as a cartel to to
push the LGBTQ mindset, policy set into major corporations, and
(40:32):
so they do that in number of different ways. One
of the ways they do it is through this CI
scoring system. The CI scoring system, which many people may
have heard of. It essentially says you have to have
met certain benchmarks to get one hundred percent score right,
and there's financial benefits to doing so. So for a
long time, over previous years, these financial institutions were actually
(40:53):
giving companies preferential treatment if they got one hundred percent
score on their HRC scoring system. So essentially what it
says is, you have to allow men in the bathroom
with women if they say they're a woman. You've got
to pay for sex changes. You've got to pay for
sex changes even for dependents of employees. If you want
one hundred percent score, you've got to have internal LGBTQ
events at the office, you've got to show that you've
(41:15):
got to provide it to the HRC evidence that you did. So,
you've got to support outside LGBTQ plus events a number
of them, and there's more down that list. It goes
on and on and on, but essentially you have to
do all these things to be able to get that
one hundred percent score, and then you have to publicly
boast it.
Speaker 10 (41:30):
Right.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
So many companies were doing this until we came along
last year and we made the pitch to them essentially
that they need to drop all third party scoring systems
because in essence, my concern for companies is that they
shouldn't be doing the Robbie scoring system, and they also
shouldn't be doing the HRC score scoring system. And that's
because if you've got these scoring systems that are diametrically opposed,
(41:51):
what's going to happen is you're going to get squeezed.
And companies should not want to get squeezed by both
left wing and right wing consumers. They should want to
be able to serve everybody if they're public company. Right,
if you're in that fortune five hundred and you're on
the stock market, you want to make the most money
for your shareholders you possibly can.
Speaker 10 (42:06):
And to do that you need to get out of
divisive politics.
Speaker 11 (42:08):
And that's been my overarching message to them is get
out of the business of division and be focused on
making money again. And the way to do that is
not to get involved with any of these third party
groups that want to do a scoring system that is
going to divide us.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Robbie, keep going, my friend. I appreciate you very much.
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Speaker 1 (43:43):
All right, It is time to lighten the mood. And
I've got to tell you something, all right. I like Subway.
I can't help it. I like Subway. When I go
to Subway, well, first, first, you know, before I even
(44:03):
go into their new thing, you should understand that the
best cookies in the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
They're served at Subway. Did you know that that little
cookie display they have? I bet you bypass it every time. Nah,
I don't want any chocolate chip.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
I don't want any oakmeal rays and Subway has the
best cookies in the United States of America. I won't
walk in one without coming out with a couple of cookies.
You know that there's a little tidbit. Two, there's Southwest
Chipotle Southwest? What is in that bottle? Southwest? Whatever they're
Southwest sauce is Chipotle. I get a cheese steak, double cheese,
(44:39):
of course, and I just drown it in that sauce
I had. Those poor women at Subway just snows that
stuff all over it. It's fantastic, fantastic. I used to
eat two of them when I was in the Marine Corps.
Two foot longs. Can't eat like that anymore. But still,
I'm a Subway fan. And so you might turn your
nose up at this, but I won't.
Speaker 12 (45:00):
The Dorito's foot long nachos a little bit early, so
of course we got tryumph. Let's see what these look
like all look at that. You start with a bag
of chips. You get your choice of chicken or steak.
They've got tomatoes, they got onions, They've got like the
regular cheese, they've got the Chipotle sauce. They've got some jlopenos.
They're a bit of a mess, as you expect from nachos.
But this is a nice little snack for five dollars.
(45:20):
It doesn't feel like a bad value, especially when you
get some steak. Get all the toppings on there. It's
got a little bit of heat, it's got some good flavor.
It is a mess, but they did give me a four.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Oh sorry, I'm in I see them
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