February 26, 2021 • 43 mins
We know tyranny when we see it. Thus far, the most egregious abuse of power has been by the political class and the propagandist media. But it's the next-level uber tyrants who are really calling the shots: the American billionaires. Mark Zuckerberg is the arbiter of speech and thought. Bill Gates fancies himself King of the Climate. George Soros finances the destruction of civilized society. And then there are the two with whom we have a love-hate relationship: Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. How much power do they wield, and how much can we -- as patriots -- fight back against tyrants with endless wealth?
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old old saying. I don't know who came up with it.
I probably should look it up, but I don't do
research for the show. There's an old saying in combat
that says it is better to have an army of
donkeys led by a lion than an army of lions
led by a donkey. Leadership does matter, and sometimes for
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us more rebellious types, that can be difficult to take him.
But it's true. And in any society, a tiny tribe
somewhere or a megapowerful nation, there are going to be
men who rise to the top in that society, extremely wealthy,
successful men, and they are going to be hugely influential
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in the direction of that society. That's not uniquely American
or anything else. That's the history of the world. The
history of the world says that as a fact. And
here's what we're not going to do tonight when we
talk about America's billionaires. What we're not going to do
is the wealth envy thing, because I don't do that.
I'm never going to come on here and tell you
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this guy's evil because he's rich. I don't do that.
If you desire to have a lot of money, go
make it, and I bless you to it. I cheer
for everybody's success. It's fine. We're not doing wealth mb
all right, We're never going to do that. However, we
are We're now forced to acknowledge that we have a
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real problem here in America. And it's not that we
have a bunch of billionaires. It's not that we have
a bunch of guys who were extremely wealthy. It's that
these guys who are extremely wealthy and buying up everything
and controlling all the things you and I consume with
our eyes and our ears and our mouth. It's that
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these guys they hate you and they hate me. You see,
it's not a problem to have a wealthy guy, super
successful guiding a country in a certain direction. That's not
a problem unless that direction is out to destroy everything
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you and I care about. And the Mark Zuckerberg's, Jeff Bezos,
George Soros, these guys they hate you, Bill Gates, they
hate you. They hate what you believe. They think it's evil,
and they're taking this massive amount of power they have
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and they're using it against you and using it against me.
And this is an extremely unhealthy place for a nation
to be. We are in an unhealthy place. So, I mean, look,
there's something that happens out there. This happens all the
time on the right, and it should happened, But it happens.
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We'll see an actor or actress, let's focus on movies
for a moment, and we'll see them saying something crazy,
something stupid. They'll get up at the oscars, Oh yeah,
open the orders or something dumb, and I'll always say,
in that stuff and what do we do. You've said it.
I'm sure I've said it in the past. Nobody thinks.
Nobody cares what George Clooney thinks. That's not true. You
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can wish that were the case. I can wish that
were the case. But movies have a huge, huge influence
on a population. It's not an accident. And no, I'm
not comparing anybody today to Nazi Germany. I don't do that.
That's so ham fist that I don't do that. It's
not an accident. It was one of the main focuses
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of Nazi Germany. It was one of the main focuses
of Stalin when he when he was running the Soviets.
It was one of the main focuses of Mao. It
was the and I mean the main focus. So the
Korean dictator Kim Jong Ill, they all were all about
the movie life. Now, why do you think that is,
they knew this stuff matters. When you gather your family
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up in the car and take off on a Sunday
afternoon after church and you go sit in the movie
theater and get your nine dollars popcorn and your soda
and your candy. I'm not judging. You've done it a
thousand times and you all kick back and watch the
big two hour events. Yeah, you're probably just being entertained,
maybe influenced a little, but entertained. They're being more than entertained.
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Your children are being educated. And what's right and wrong
your movie industry. You can hate this all you want.
I don't care. Your movie industry does matter. What's your
movie industry like today? Asked Gina Kurano how the movie
industry is today? She didn't even say anything overtly right wing.
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This is a woman who the left came for because
of a she put on Instagram, because they demanded that
this woman put her pronouns in her bio and she
wouldn't do it. It's not even that you can't be
on the right. You have to show complete compliance to
the communist gods or they will come for you. And
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I don't expect you to care about Star Wars. Maybe
you love it, maybe you hate it, maybe you care
about the last Jedi even it was garbage. None of
that stuff matters to me, the Mandalorian, any of it,
None of that matters to me. But you have to
understand it does matter to society as a whole. It
does matter one of the and it goes well beyond
the movies. Remember what your eyes consume and your ears
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consume will go in here. It is just, it is inevitable.
It's the fact. That's how we're made. Jeff Bezos, you know,
gigantic owner of Amazon, richest man in the world even
post divorce. The guy's richest man in the world. He
wasn't happy just shipping boxes of stuff you like. Jeff
Bezos owns one of the biggest newspapers in the country,
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The Washington Post. What's the Washington Post have to say
about things? Well, a real mess. Trump is leaving behind
a crisis and undermining Biden before he takes office. Oversight
report calls Trump administration response to pandemic a failure. Quote,
I just want to find eleven thousand, seven hundred and
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eighty votes. An extraordinary hour long phone call, Trump pressures
Georgia Secretary of State to recalculate the vote in his favor.
All those things one hundred percent twisted and false. All
those things brought to you by one of the largest
newspapers in the United States of America, owned by the
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same guy who owns Amazon. And I wonder why. I
wonder why Amazon would want the pandemic to continue. It's weird, right,
I guess if you check the stock numbers over the
last year, it's not so weird. After all. They can
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they convince you of things without you even knowing it.
Do you remember the big Facebook push? You remember it
prior to the election? You remember what it was. Make
sure you mail in your vote, mail in your vote.
Get out there and mail in your vote. Go mail
in your of course, mail in your vote. Everyone should
mail your vote, mail your vote everybody. Well, now, there's
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nothing deferious to it. It's just mail in the votes,
get out the vote. You've seen all the get out
the vote campaigns, the millions and millions and millions of
dollars these gigantic leftist tech companies have sunk into getting
out the vote. That's weird. Oh but wait, it's more
than that. They control who does and doesn't have a platform.
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Remember between Facebook and Twitter alone, that's two point six
billion users. Every day, a new conservatives gets snipped and
get snipped and get snipped where you can say the
most detestable things on the left, you'll be just fine.
You see, this is becoming a really, really, really big problem.
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Not that we have a bunch of billionaires good for us,
Not that being a billionaire's an issue. If you want
to be one, if that's your life's desire, go go
make yourself one, but that the men who are right now,
they are taking us in a very dangerous direction. And
it's way beyond social media. It's way beyond movies. This
is you remember the stock market, right, the game Stop thing.
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I'm not going to recap the whole thing for you.
It was a really entertaining news story for about a day,
but you remember the game Stop thing. They figured out
some hedge fund was massively shorting game Stop stock, and
just a bunch of dudes on an online forum get
on there and all of a sudden they shoot, the
lock up and the hedge fund starts getting hurt. Right,
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we got a bunch of billionaires getting hurt. What happened.
We had apps like Robin Hood stopping you from doing
it anymore. Oh, sorry, you can't do that anymore, with
no explanation whatsoever, and they try to go on this
lame apology tour after Ah, look, they didn't have the money.
This is a big, big deal. The people who lead
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our society actively working to remake our society into something
you and I don't like is a problem. It is
a problem we are going to have to address in
some way. And the problem is I don't know if
a comfortable way to address it, but we have to
be aware of it. Maybe we all need to start there.
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What you're consuming is affecting you, and it is danger
affecting your kids. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right. We have a dynamite show for
you tonight. Hang on, you're gonna want to see Carol
Roth tonight. By the way, we'll be back. Well. He's
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one of my favorite guests because there was nobody, nobody
more out front about what was going to happen in
the twenty twenty election than Allen Bakari. He's an investigative
journalist with bright Bart News. He has that book I
tell you to read every single time he comes on
called deleted. And look at this headline. Honestly, it says
it all right here report Mark Zuckerberg's four hundred and
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nineteen million dollar nonprofit contribution contributions improperly influenced a twenty
twenty presidential election. I don't understand, Allan, What could be
wrong with just trying to tell people to get out
to vote? Yeah, I mean, this is this is the
modus operandi of Silicon Valley. They always conceal their intentions
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behind some nice sounding girl, whether it's Google's Don't Be
Evil or facebook so called election integrity efforts. In the
case of the recent election, election integrity meant flooding Democrat
districts with money directed at turnout campaigns and of course
suppressing on conservative media on their platforms. How bad has
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the censorship been since the actual election? And since they
dumped Donald Trump? They dumped Trump right away, and I
assume they were going to just go ahead and come
for all of us in about the next week or so.
But they seem to have slowed down or is that
in my mind? Well, they never do everything all at once,
and they also respond to pressure from left wing pressure
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groups like media Matters from the mainstream media. So it's
like it's a slow process. It's you know, boiling the
frog slowly. If they did it all at once, they
generate to massive revolt. And I think they realize actually
that when they banned President Trump, it actually got a
lot more backlash from around the world than I think
even they were expecting. You had the President of Mexico,
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the Chancellor of Germany, ministers in the French government, the
Australian government, the Polish government, the Russian government, and the
Russian opposition all saying well, this, you know, Silicon Valley
is going too far to sense for an elected leader.
So I think they recognize that there are lines they
can cross, but I don't think that's going to sup
them in the long run, because they'll just keep, you know,
chipping away at Internet freedom until it's completely gone. You know,
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Poland's an interesting cad. I don't know that there's anybody
out there more aware of what it's like to live
under a totalitarian regime than the country that got spit
roasted by Nazi Germany and the Communists during World War Two.
And they're out here passing anti big tech legislation, aren't they.
Oh yeah, I think Poland is really a model for
what most people around the world, especially those on the
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populous dissident side of politics, want. They're going to establish
a court for the protection of freedom of expression, and
if any social media platform takes down content that's legal
in Poland, then Polish citizens will be able to go
to that court, get their post reinstated, get their account reinstated.
And I think that's that's the direction. I think more
and more countries will go, and I think they'll they
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don't like this idea that Silicon Valley can go beyond
what dear what the law prescribes. It's only in America,
and really only the Democrat Party that wants to use
these tech companies as a means to censor their opposition
and their critics. Because in America you have the First Amendment.
So getting around the law, which is the First Amendment
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is the whole point. Why aren't we doing that? To
be honest, I'm so disappointed in America when I see
other countries, even Poland, leading the charge on freedom and
we're we're getting stalled it by other nations about our
Russia's like showing us about censorship. What has happened? When
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did this happen? Well, it all happened really very quickly.
I think twenty sixteen was kind of the catalyst for
all this, but it's been blindingly fast, especially when you
consider what the Internet was supposed to belion, and it
was supposed to be this massive leap forward for free
expression video to democratization of information. The whole ideal of
the Internet was that you only needed a laptop and
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an Internet connection or a mobile phone to access a
global audience, and no one could get between your message
and the people who wanted to read it. That idea
of being completely destroyed over the past four years. And
it really happened because of two things. I think because
of the election of Donald Trump, the success of populist movements,
and because the mainstream media saw their market share, their
dominance disappearing under threat from these new upstart media companies
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on the Internet, from ordinary citizen journalists, and that's why
they've spent four years dismantling the original ideal of the Internet.
Album for the part, our billionaires suck, they're either hardcore
left wing activists like the ones we've been talking about,
or if they're on the right, they're too scared to
open their mouths and they just don't do anything. For
the most part. Is Europe going through that same thing.
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I would say in Europe it's more like it's the
government's in charge, it's not the billionaires. So you know.
And while these European governments they may have even you know,
Germany spoke out, as we said, you know, spoke out
against sin sir of Donald Trump, you know, pretty mildly
if they did speak out against it. But these countries
they all have hate speech laws, but they set the terms,
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so they decide what's hate speech and what is and
what can be punished and what can't be punished. They
don't like the idea of Silicon Valley coming in and
setting their own rules. So I think the trend in
Europe that we're going to see is governments taking back
power from Silicon Valley companies and saying, hey, we're in charge,
not you. I'm not gonna lie. Bill Gates creeps me out,
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and I'm not actually I'm not trying to be mean.
He creeps me out. It's not even just the vaccine stuff.
He seems to be involved in each and every part
of things. That I believe are destroying this country in
Western civilization, hardcore environmentalism. He's out there now funding math
is racist programs. What is Bill Gates's steel. It's hard
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to comprehend the motivations of these people. I mean, I
can't speak much about Bill Gates, but like he seems
to be one of these He's part of the whole
philanthropy culture now, and the whole philanthropy culture is very
much tied to these globalist ideals, whether it's you know,
as you said, you know, combating systemic racism, or pushing environmentalism,
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getting us all to eat bugs to save the planet,
all all of these things come from this sort of
you know, very small club of globalists who hang out
to Davos every year, and Bill Dates is very much
a part of that of that culture. But yeah, the
problem with the billionaires, I think is that they all
kind of think the same way we you know, just
look at look at the leaders of Google up in
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that league. Taint that we publish a Brightbart News a
few years ago, right out of the election, They're at
a town hall meeting and you know, some of the
most powerful people in technology all on all on stage
addressing their employees up election, and they all seem to
think the same way. They all have the same visceral
emotional reaction of this election. So when you have that
level of concentrated wealth and power, you know that's bad enough.
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When they all think the same way, then you've got
a huge problem on your hats. Tell me about Google.
Tell me about this because I see things like this report.
Facebook let China buy ads to spread this info on
reager concentration camps. And I know this bleeds into Google.
I know this bleeds into everything else. What is this
relationship with Google and big tech and Facebook in China?
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Why the China love I'm not sure if it's China
loves it well with Google. It certainly is because they
were thinking of building a sense of search engine for
a while and they got so much backlash and they
had to rop it. I think a lot of the
tech companies realize it as too risky to try and
do business in China at the moment because they saw
the backlash over Google's project there. I'm sure they very
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much liked to China's a massive market, a huge business
opportunity there. A lot of companies are you know, probably
a little bit silently upset that the Trump administ the
Trump administration changed policy on China so that now it's
socially and politically unacceptable for companies to cozy up to them.
But the other thing to remember, I think why it
sometimes where it sometimes seems that the tech companies go
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soft in China is because they respond to cues from
the Democrats. Are from the mainstream media, and over the
past four years, the entire narrative has been about Russian collusion,
Russian election interference, because that was a way that the
media thought they could attack Donald Trump, they could get
him impeached and all the rest. So I think that's
why these companies seem to have placed so little emphasis
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on China in relation to Russia's because Russia was so
inflated over the past four years because of the the
mainstream media is panic and conspiracy theories about it. Alan
Bukari go read all this stuff. Thank you, my brother,
I appreciate you. Thanks Jesse, We'll be back. Everybody loves
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watching a good fight, right, especially when it's billionaires squaring off.
I mean, I don't know who to root for ever
when it comes to these things. But apparently Elon Musk
and Jeff Bezos are not fast friends. Must poss asked
for a comment from Washington Post, which of course is
owned by Jeff Bezos. Quote Tesla did not respond to
repeated requests for comment. In response to emails seeking comment,
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Musk replied, give my regards to your puppet master, Wow
joining me now to talk about that and other things.
Creator of the future file legacy planning system in the
Wrath Effect podcast, Carol Roth, Carol, what's the story we
talk between Bezos and Musk. I think everybody just assumes
billionaires always party on the same yachts together, all right,
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So I have to do my mister Burns impression excellence.
Very excited we get to talk about the billionaires. I
think this is like a leftover from model Rocket Club
in high school, right, This is you know, who can
get their model rocket higher? It's a model rocket measuring contest.
I guess you've got two guys who are amongst, depending
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on the day, the wealthiest men on the planet. Obviously,
it takes a lot of charisma and government help, by
the way, to get to that level. And so they
are going back and forth and competing with each other.
But they both come from very different perspectives, and so
I think some of the back and forth with them
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is just they're operating in different universes. No pun intended
to Okay, all right, all right, we're switching gears from
the billionaire fight. As much as I'd love to stand,
you know what, I actually no, I have one more thing.
The right is starting to fall in love with Elon Musk.
Elon Musk has been a voice for some of the
things the right likes recently. But I am, by nature
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a distrustful human being, especially when it comes to somebody
with that level of success. Not that I would grudge
anyone that I just naturally distrustful. Should I be distrustful,
Carol Well, I think everyone should always be skeptical of everyone.
And I think that Elon, despite the fact he's obviously
very talented and smart, is not consistent on areas of
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things like individual rights and government intervention. As I alluded to.
He's built his businesses, whether it's Tesla, SpaceX Solar City,
which got merged into Tesla on the back of government subsidies.
He's for UBI, so you know, he likes to play
both sides of the coin, and at the end of
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the day. And this is just my opinion. Elon Musk
wants to get the heck off this planet and get
to Mars, and so he will say anything and do
anything to use other people's capital and resources to get
to that end goal. And that's with driving all this.
Why are people so fascinated with space? I mean, am
I just a bad person? I'm the only person in
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the world who doesn't ever care about space. I don't
care that we land on the Moon. I don't care
that somebody snapped and took some ugly pictures of Mars. Well,
we are here on this planet and that's the only
one I care about. It? Is that just because I'm
a bad person, No, I think I mean, it kind
of depends if you're the kind of person who does drugs, right,
it's escapism of some people escape by doing heroin, and
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that then some people wanted literally escaped by pretending they
can get into a rocket ship and get up there.
At the end of the day, you can't escape yourself.
So you and I are probably grounded in the realism
that you know, we enjoy ourselves, and so why would
we want to escape ourselves? But for the people who
don't that's one method that they can pursue for escape.
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That's a really good point, Carol. It's just because I
love me, all right, Bitcoin, Let's pretend like I just
woke up from an eighty year coma. I need Carol
Wath to explain to me what is bitcoin at all?
All right, So I'm gonna just caveat this by saying
I'm not the world's expert in cryptocurrency or bitcoin in particular.
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But the idea behind it, kind of like any of
these anti government movements, is decentralization. Right now, in the
United States, we have a central bank that controls our
money supply, the same thing with central banks around the world.
And so a bunch of people on the Internet got
together and said, wouldn't be cool if we could decentralize
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money and decentralize finance. And so you'll hear things like
blockchain and cryptocurrency and bitcoin and defy for these concepts,
which again in concept, are a very good thing, and
I think potentially people will be able to figure it out.
But when you think about something like money, you know,
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it's a store of value, it's a unit of account,
and it's a medium of exchange, and right now, Bitcoin
isn't really doing very well in any of those you know,
in terms of a unit of exchange, it's not widely accepted,
and it's hard to use with these digital wallets in
order to sort of access bitcoin. Um, you know, the
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value of it fluctuates wildly, So in terms of it
being sort of this stable currency, I personally, both literally
and figuratively, have not bought into it, but do like
the idea that people can take the power away from
a centralized body in terms of controlling the money supply.
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I do think that's a good thing. So we're in
the early innings of this. I'm sure we'll all sort
itself out, but you know, that's that's the very small primer.
Un Is this something that's going to actually be Look,
I don't know anything about it. I'm not buying it.
I invest in the safest things humanly possible. But is
this one of these things that's going to bail out
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the guy who was hoarding it as soon as these
people managed to collapse our dollar? So it's possible, you know,
It's one of the problems that I mentioned with bitcoin
is that it hasn't been really stable in terms of
its value. If you've been following it, it's been going
up and up and up, which, again, if it was
this sort of stable store of value, that it's very
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difficult to have that stability when you don't really know
what the price is. And so it does seem to me,
again and I'm caveating that I am not the expert
of just kind of looking at it from the sidelines,
is that it's just shifting the power and control to
the people who got in early versus you know, really
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spreading it out. So that is a concern, and you'll
see the people who obviously gotten early and have large
stakes in it are honestly highly enthusiastic about it because
it's to their benefit for other people to buy in.
That in of itself doesn't make it a bad thing,
but it certainly should make you want to investigate further
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and think about both sides. But certainly, I do think
the desire to have a cryptocurrency, whether it's bitcoin or
something else, something that is decentralized, does stem from that
unrelying fear of what's you know, what are these central
planners doing, what's the FED doing, what happens if and
when the dollar collapses? And wanting to and whether it's
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gold or cryptocurrency or having some other mechanism to defend
against that. Don't you think beaches are overrated? I've never
been a beach guy. It's not that I have a
problem with the ocean. I love a little tiky bar
as much as the next man. But the sand is everywhere.
It gets kind of boring after a while. Am I
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alone in this? I really feel like we share a
brain and that's exactly my issue with it, the sand.
If they could replace the sand with something else, like
maybe like AstroTurf or something, or your grass, like I
would really be at all. But like you don't want
to mean gets all over. You know, it's always in
your shoes, it's in your luggage for like ten days,
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and like you said, you know it's after some at
some point in time, like what are you doing? Like
there's just there's not enough activities. So I also I
like the view of water, like I like it to
be near, but I don't need to be on the
beach to enjoy it. I'll meet you at the tiki bar, Carol.
All right, the market is it scaring you? Is it
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intriguing you? Obviously I'm not asking for specific financial advice
right now. But under Joe Biden, what's it doing? So,
you know, I mean, we're not that far into the
Joe Biden administration, and frankly, presidents only have so much
impact on the market. The bigger issue with the market
that scares me is the amount of support that the
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FED has put in. And I say support. You cann't
call it meddling. You can call it intervention. But there
is definitely a lifting up of asset prices in the markets,
and that is not sustainable. If you look at the
valuations of some of these companies, they're not based on
anything other than the fact that there's just a lot
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of dollars chasing a limited supply of securities. So I
am concerned in the mid to long term. You know,
whether that's going to happen right away, probably not. We've
got some more stimulus, We have some more money that's
coming into ard officially inflate the market, but that is
going to fall apart at some point in time. When
if I knew I'd had that crystal ball, I'd be
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sitting on a yacht in the Mediterranean, which I like
better than the beach, and not talking to you but
thinking of you, of course, of course, kil Roth, thank
you so much. Man. I like the idea of a yacht.
I want a yacht. I'm gonna have to keep working
for a while. All right, we'll be back. We've talked
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a lot about billionaires. This billionaire and that billionaire. George
Soros's name always comes up in some way. I mean,
he's become this boogie man for the right where you
have to sift through what is real and what's not real.
But here's something that is real. Funded groups funded by
George Soros over thirty outlets in the mainstream media, including
Media Matters. That's some group of scumbags. They focus on
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getting shows removed off the air, and he showed they
don't like Hillary Clinton's campaign for president. Black Lives Matter,
maybe you've heard of that domestic terrorist and over five
hundred Democratic Party organizations joining me now as my friend
conservative host John Cardillo, John, George Soros, what's real? What's
not real? It's all real. Everything you're saying is real.
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I've been exposing this going back about twenty and twelve,
and interestingly enough, New York State's Attorney General's office has
a very good website when it comes to finding out
who nonprofits donate to, and George Soros is Open Side's foundation.
All of their tax returns are on that website. Many
other states as well, I think right now about thirty
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seven states require that. Even going back as far as
twenty twelve thirteen twenty fourteen, when NYPD officers Lew and
Ramos were killed by someone who was affiliated with the
early stages of the Black Lives Matter movement, you could
track the money via these tax returns from SEIU Service
Employee International Union that far Left union, but most importantly
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George Soros's foundations. He was making investments in these radical
groups ten years ago, alongside these Marxist unions, etc. So
when guys like you and I talk about this and
we're called conspiratorial, it's infuriating because there is a literal jesse,
a literal paper trail of the funding, and it's a
matter of a matter of public information. Anyone can access
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it the mainstree media they choose not to. John helped
me understand as best you can, why what is it
with this guy? Because I'll tell you everything you just
said it is one hundred percent right, And the more
I look into it, it looks like a long term,
focused effort to bring down the United States of America.
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I don't have another way to put it them that
that's what it looks like. Is it that? And if so,
why what's this guy's problem? You know? I think it
is that, But I think part of the reason is
something no one's looking at it, and to me, it's
been glaringly obvious. George Soros is a billionaire doing large
part to arbitrage. That buying and selling of money of
George Soros can devalue, in short, the US dollar. He
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makes billions upon billions of dollars and what better we
need to do that? And with civil unrest and destabilizing
this nation, what better way to do that? And with
institutional leftist policies at bankrupt the American treasury. And I
think that's a big part. If you look at Soros's fortune,
especially earned from arbitrage, when these things go down, he
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makes a lot of money. Jesse, Yeah, it all seems
so nefarious, but I guess in general, oftentimes with these guys,
it comes down to money. I mean, look, I've been
the one on the record saying I think Bill Gates
is a megalomaniac who would murder millions of people, not
lose a second asleep and think he was a good
guy doing it. We have Bill Gates is now the owner.
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He's the largest farm land owner in the country, two
hundred and fifty thousand acres. We're supposed to eat synthetic beef.
Take Bill Gates's vaccine, do everything Bill Gates tells us
to do. Oh and acquitted Bill Gates math is racist.
This again. I think these people are evil. And you know,
fortunately Bill Gates is the largest individual farm landowner in
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the country, But there are large families that own this
land under corporations. For example, the Armstrong family down in
Texas that owns the famous King Ranch. They've got an
eighty eight hundred and fifty thousand acres. They tend to
swing a little more conservative, and I think that in
the states where there is a big agriculture presence. Here
in Florida, for example, I have friends a couple of
very high networth families. They own a couple of hundred
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thousand acres collectively, and they're galvanizing now to make sure
that none of that land is sold off to these
leftists with these bizarre like anti human policies. This guy
is like one of these environmental wacko terrorsts at this point,
who would kill off humans for some bizarre, misguided agenda. John,
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How did we shift as a country. I mean, there
was a time in this country, love them or hat um,
where our billionaires are, our Rockerfellers, Vanderbilts, all these guys.
There was a time where they were all the republic looks.
I mean, they were all the stereotypical Republican with the
cigar in their mouth and the nine hundred dollar glass
of whiskey. All of our billionaires now and billionaires matter,
there are all these nut jobs who hate the place.
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When did this shift happen? You know, it's incredible. I'm
reading at the Shrug again Nan Ratten book, and you're
so right, And it's we pivoted one eighty from that
from who the producers are ideologically, the inventors, the creators
who they were ideologically, to who they are. I think
the shift, Jesse has to be a political one. I
think it needs to come at the state level. The
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federal level were shot. The Biden administration is a regime.
Michael Anton wrote a great piece in American greatness. Last
week he calls it the regime, and I think it's outstanding.
We need to do this at the state level, and
not just the state legislative level. We've got to get
very serious about putting a GOP farm team in place
at the county and state level, because now we don't.
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We've got to get those people elected to national positions
that send up the America First Conservatives in the park,
send them up to the RNC and take over the
R ANDC from within with people that truly love this
nation and want to get back to real conservative basics. Okay,
I agree with you when it comes to the local guys.
I've been telling people that all the time, pack your
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school boards with your ideology, pack your city council's, mayors,
state rep seats. What I hear when I bring that
up a lot, though, is our billionaires are rich guys.
We have plenty to they don't fund these local things
like the left does. The left the left will package
school board just the package school boarder. These guys won't
want for money. How do we open up the purse
strings on our side that has to be there. That's
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the problem, I mean, really is man, That's the one
that makes guys like me who you know. When I'm
not doing media work, I work quite a bit trying
to make this party in America first party again. Our network.
People don't see local elections, local politics, state level politics
as romantic as exciting is sexy. We need to explain
to them that's triple a ball. Yourk Yankees don't win
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the World Series. You don't become the New York Yankees.
You don't become a championship team. If you don't have
a robust farm system, the Republican Party is terrible. We
are absolutely terrible at cultivating our farm system, at finding
good new talent, putting them on the bench, cultivating them
and is sending them up. We've got to be much
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better at that. And we've got to explain to the
high it worth people that the donors, that's where you
weaponize your money. That's where you actionize your money, not
by being one of many donors to a congressman, to
a congresswoman, finding that new breed of candidate that will
fundamentally change the party and make you wealthier, make you
more powerful, be better for your family, your life, your business. John,
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I've been when I tell people to run for office.
I get this a lot from people, I'm too scared,
or I can't run for school board, I've never been
a teacher, or I don't even have kids, or something
like that anymore. Can we please get the message across
the people it doesn't matter. Get in there and push
your values. It doesn't that's what they're doing. Don't get
in there and be a little mouse. Either, get in
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there and push your values. Our culture has to stand
for something. Yeah, I suggest everybody read that short Teddy
Roosevelt essay, The Man in the Arena, and basically it's
got the critical accounts. It's if you're not in the fight,
your opinion really doesn't matter. Get into the fight in
some way, because otherwise you're just somebody on the sidelines yelling,
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yelling at the air. Nobody really cares. You've got to do.
You've gotta get involved. Become a precinct committee person, run
for school board, run for city council. Look a guy
that retired of the NMPDA. Guy went through the academy
with a rookie, lived in a town in upstate New York.
Didn't like what was going on. He ran for the
city Planning Commission, he won. Now he's actually making a
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difference about the things that concerned him. These things are doable,
they're attainable, and you have a lot more power than
you realize once you do them. John. For those who
don't know, John's former NYPD, John, why are you in
Florida now and not in New York? We are I
moved down in seventeen years ago and I never looked back.
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Look the city change tremendously after nine to eleven. What
I saw it becoming into the Bloomberg administration. He was
a little heavy handed, but he was tough on crime.
I disagreed with Michael Bloomberg on about everything. The only
thing Bloomberg did right was that he left the NYPD
alone crime and declined because he left Rudy Giulian his
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strategies in place. He knew they worked. Ray Kelly was
a good commissioner. He left it all in place at work.
I left an O four because I just grew up
in New York. It was a little bit of malaise
in the city after nine to eleven, but after the
Blasio entered office, I could never go back. He is truly,
truly destroyed a city that anybody would have thought was
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the unsinkable Molly Brown. Right, de Blasi has been able
to destroy that city and under a year. John Cardilo,
thank you so much for my brother. I appreciate you anytime. Man. Thanks.
Look he's right about that man in the arena stuff too.
I hate to point at you and tell you you
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need to do this thing, and maybe you don't. Maybe
you don't have time, maybe it's really not possible. If
it's at all on your heart, run for something local.
Maybe it's state rep. If you want to go a
little higher, but run for your school board. I don't
care what you know. I don't care what you don't know.
You need to run the people on your school board
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off your school board. Almost Undoubtedly, the left is in
the schools for a reason, and it's not there just
because they love kids. They're there to make sure your
kids think like them. You get there to make sure
your kids and everyone else is think like you. All Right,
we're not done yet, we'll be back. You don't have
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to hate billionaires. Avoid that. That's jealousy inside of you,
jealousy inside of me. We have to avoid that. You do, however,
have to really, really, really care about the men who
lead your nation. It is a very, very very big
deal that America's billionaires are most powerful people in this country.
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Don't want the same America you want. And I call
them communists, cultural Marxists, whatever you want to call them
all the time. But the truth is this. They don't
believe in passive power. They don't believe in just having
a gigantic company. And well, I mean, hopefully everything works
out the way I want it to. These are the
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types of men and that ideology. They're out to make
sure it goes the way they want it to go.
That's something we all have to acknowledge. We have to
make sure your friends know, your family knows, and we
have to do something about it. All right, I'll see
you on the Jordan Harbinger Show. You'll hear amazing stories
(42:19):
from people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs,
even an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family.
You're about to hear a preview of the Jordan Harbinger
Show with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career
was twenty four out of twenty six years was solely
dedicated working on the cover I walk in, I'm in
the bar. How there's a bar made dad, good looking
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young lady. See serving me, Joey, Hey, what would you like?
I usually my frank was give me a kettle, one martini,
three olives, class of water on the side. I finished
the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna go go
in my pocket, take out the big wad of money. Hey, am,
I give her one hundred dollars. If you're with the Mob,
I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That
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means we protect you. Nobody could shake it down. We
could shake you down. Oh, you're on record with us.
For more on how Jack became so trusted in the
highest levels of the Gambino organization, check out episode three
ninety two of The Jordan Harbinger Show
Your holster is way more important than you think it is.
It's just way more important than you think it is.
What look, and I get that the holsters not the
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talk about your weapon and your ammunition. You want to
talk about your safety training. You want to talk about
how you did at the range. Oh, look at my groups.
I was doing these failure drills today, and all that
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percent off. Leadership matters, It matters a lot. There's an
(01:10):
old old saying. I don't know who came up with it.
I probably should look it up, but I don't do
research for the show. There's an old saying in combat
that says it is better to have an army of
donkeys led by a lion than an army of lions
led by a donkey. Leadership does matter, and sometimes for
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us more rebellious types, that can be difficult to take him.
But it's true. And in any society, a tiny tribe
somewhere or a megapowerful nation, there are going to be
men who rise to the top in that society, extremely wealthy,
successful men, and they are going to be hugely influential
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in the direction of that society. That's not uniquely American
or anything else. That's the history of the world. The
history of the world says that as a fact. And
here's what we're not going to do tonight when we
talk about America's billionaires. What we're not going to do
is the wealth envy thing, because I don't do that.
I'm never going to come on here and tell you
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this guy's evil because he's rich. I don't do that.
If you desire to have a lot of money, go
make it, and I bless you to it. I cheer
for everybody's success. It's fine. We're not doing wealth mb
all right, We're never going to do that. However, we
are We're now forced to acknowledge that we have a
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real problem here in America. And it's not that we
have a bunch of billionaires. It's not that we have
a bunch of guys who were extremely wealthy. It's that
these guys who are extremely wealthy and buying up everything
and controlling all the things you and I consume with
our eyes and our ears and our mouth. It's that
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these guys they hate you and they hate me. You see,
it's not a problem to have a wealthy guy, super
successful guiding a country in a certain direction. That's not
a problem unless that direction is out to destroy everything
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you and I care about. And the Mark Zuckerberg's, Jeff Bezos,
George Soros, these guys they hate you, Bill Gates, they
hate you. They hate what you believe. They think it's evil,
and they're taking this massive amount of power they have
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and they're using it against you and using it against me.
And this is an extremely unhealthy place for a nation
to be. We are in an unhealthy place. So, I mean, look,
there's something that happens out there. This happens all the
time on the right, and it should happened, But it happens.
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We'll see an actor or actress, let's focus on movies
for a moment, and we'll see them saying something crazy,
something stupid. They'll get up at the oscars, Oh yeah,
open the orders or something dumb, and I'll always say,
in that stuff and what do we do. You've said it.
I'm sure I've said it in the past. Nobody thinks.
Nobody cares what George Clooney thinks. That's not true. You
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can wish that were the case. I can wish that
were the case. But movies have a huge, huge influence
on a population. It's not an accident. And no, I'm
not comparing anybody today to Nazi Germany. I don't do that.
That's so ham fist that I don't do that. It's
not an accident. It was one of the main focuses
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of Nazi Germany. It was one of the main focuses
of Stalin when he when he was running the Soviets.
It was one of the main focuses of Mao. It
was the and I mean the main focus. So the
Korean dictator Kim Jong Ill, they all were all about
the movie life. Now, why do you think that is,
they knew this stuff matters. When you gather your family
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up in the car and take off on a Sunday
afternoon after church and you go sit in the movie
theater and get your nine dollars popcorn and your soda
and your candy. I'm not judging. You've done it a
thousand times and you all kick back and watch the
big two hour events. Yeah, you're probably just being entertained,
maybe influenced a little, but entertained. They're being more than entertained.
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Your children are being educated. And what's right and wrong
your movie industry. You can hate this all you want.
I don't care. Your movie industry does matter. What's your
movie industry like today? Asked Gina Kurano how the movie
industry is today? She didn't even say anything overtly right wing.
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This is a woman who the left came for because
of a she put on Instagram, because they demanded that
this woman put her pronouns in her bio and she
wouldn't do it. It's not even that you can't be
on the right. You have to show complete compliance to
the communist gods or they will come for you. And
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I don't expect you to care about Star Wars. Maybe
you love it, maybe you hate it, maybe you care
about the last Jedi even it was garbage. None of
that stuff matters to me, the Mandalorian, any of it,
None of that matters to me. But you have to
understand it does matter to society as a whole. It
does matter one of the and it goes well beyond
the movies. Remember what your eyes consume and your ears
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consume will go in here. It is just, it is inevitable.
It's the fact. That's how we're made. Jeff Bezos, you know,
gigantic owner of Amazon, richest man in the world even
post divorce. The guy's richest man in the world. He
wasn't happy just shipping boxes of stuff you like. Jeff
Bezos owns one of the biggest newspapers in the country,
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The Washington Post. What's the Washington Post have to say
about things? Well, a real mess. Trump is leaving behind
a crisis and undermining Biden before he takes office. Oversight
report calls Trump administration response to pandemic a failure. Quote,
I just want to find eleven thousand, seven hundred and
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eighty votes. An extraordinary hour long phone call, Trump pressures
Georgia Secretary of State to recalculate the vote in his favor.
All those things one hundred percent twisted and false. All
those things brought to you by one of the largest
newspapers in the United States of America, owned by the
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same guy who owns Amazon. And I wonder why. I
wonder why Amazon would want the pandemic to continue. It's weird, right,
I guess if you check the stock numbers over the
last year, it's not so weird. After all. They can
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they convince you of things without you even knowing it.
Do you remember the big Facebook push? You remember it
prior to the election? You remember what it was. Make
sure you mail in your vote, mail in your vote.
Get out there and mail in your vote. Go mail
in your of course, mail in your vote. Everyone should
mail your vote, mail your vote everybody. Well, now, there's
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nothing deferious to it. It's just mail in the votes,
get out the vote. You've seen all the get out
the vote campaigns, the millions and millions and millions of
dollars these gigantic leftist tech companies have sunk into getting
out the vote. That's weird. Oh but wait, it's more
than that. They control who does and doesn't have a platform.
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Remember between Facebook and Twitter alone, that's two point six
billion users. Every day, a new conservatives gets snipped and
get snipped and get snipped where you can say the
most detestable things on the left, you'll be just fine.
You see, this is becoming a really, really, really big problem.
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Not that we have a bunch of billionaires good for us,
Not that being a billionaire's an issue. If you want
to be one, if that's your life's desire, go go
make yourself one, but that the men who are right now,
they are taking us in a very dangerous direction. And
it's way beyond social media. It's way beyond movies. This
is you remember the stock market, right, the game Stop thing.
(09:41):
I'm not going to recap the whole thing for you.
It was a really entertaining news story for about a day,
but you remember the game Stop thing. They figured out
some hedge fund was massively shorting game Stop stock, and
just a bunch of dudes on an online forum get
on there and all of a sudden they shoot, the
lock up and the hedge fund starts getting hurt. Right,
(10:02):
we got a bunch of billionaires getting hurt. What happened.
We had apps like Robin Hood stopping you from doing
it anymore. Oh, sorry, you can't do that anymore, with
no explanation whatsoever, and they try to go on this
lame apology tour after Ah, look, they didn't have the money.
This is a big, big deal. The people who lead
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our society actively working to remake our society into something
you and I don't like is a problem. It is
a problem we are going to have to address in
some way. And the problem is I don't know if
a comfortable way to address it, but we have to
be aware of it. Maybe we all need to start there.
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What you're consuming is affecting you, and it is danger
affecting your kids. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right. We have a dynamite show for
you tonight. Hang on, you're gonna want to see Carol
Roth tonight. By the way, we'll be back. Well. He's
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one of my favorite guests because there was nobody, nobody
more out front about what was going to happen in
the twenty twenty election than Allen Bakari. He's an investigative
journalist with bright Bart News. He has that book I
tell you to read every single time he comes on
called deleted. And look at this headline. Honestly, it says
it all right here report Mark Zuckerberg's four hundred and
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nineteen million dollar nonprofit contribution contributions improperly influenced a twenty
twenty presidential election. I don't understand, Allan, What could be
wrong with just trying to tell people to get out
to vote? Yeah, I mean, this is this is the
modus operandi of Silicon Valley. They always conceal their intentions
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behind some nice sounding girl, whether it's Google's Don't Be
Evil or facebook so called election integrity efforts. In the
case of the recent election, election integrity meant flooding Democrat
districts with money directed at turnout campaigns and of course
suppressing on conservative media on their platforms. How bad has
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the censorship been since the actual election? And since they
dumped Donald Trump? They dumped Trump right away, and I
assume they were going to just go ahead and come
for all of us in about the next week or so.
But they seem to have slowed down or is that
in my mind? Well, they never do everything all at once,
and they also respond to pressure from left wing pressure
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groups like media Matters from the mainstream media. So it's
like it's a slow process. It's you know, boiling the
frog slowly. If they did it all at once, they
generate to massive revolt. And I think they realize actually
that when they banned President Trump, it actually got a
lot more backlash from around the world than I think
even they were expecting. You had the President of Mexico,
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the Chancellor of Germany, ministers in the French government, the
Australian government, the Polish government, the Russian government, and the
Russian opposition all saying well, this, you know, Silicon Valley
is going too far to sense for an elected leader.
So I think they recognize that there are lines they
can cross, but I don't think that's going to sup
them in the long run, because they'll just keep, you know,
chipping away at Internet freedom until it's completely gone. You know,
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Poland's an interesting cad. I don't know that there's anybody
out there more aware of what it's like to live
under a totalitarian regime than the country that got spit
roasted by Nazi Germany and the Communists during World War Two.
And they're out here passing anti big tech legislation, aren't they.
Oh yeah, I think Poland is really a model for
what most people around the world, especially those on the
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populous dissident side of politics, want. They're going to establish
a court for the protection of freedom of expression, and
if any social media platform takes down content that's legal
in Poland, then Polish citizens will be able to go
to that court, get their post reinstated, get their account reinstated.
And I think that's that's the direction. I think more
and more countries will go, and I think they'll they
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don't like this idea that Silicon Valley can go beyond
what dear what the law prescribes. It's only in America,
and really only the Democrat Party that wants to use
these tech companies as a means to censor their opposition
and their critics. Because in America you have the First Amendment.
So getting around the law, which is the First Amendment
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is the whole point. Why aren't we doing that? To
be honest, I'm so disappointed in America when I see
other countries, even Poland, leading the charge on freedom and
we're we're getting stalled it by other nations about our
Russia's like showing us about censorship. What has happened? When
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did this happen? Well, it all happened really very quickly.
I think twenty sixteen was kind of the catalyst for
all this, but it's been blindingly fast, especially when you
consider what the Internet was supposed to belion, and it
was supposed to be this massive leap forward for free
expression video to democratization of information. The whole ideal of
the Internet was that you only needed a laptop and
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an Internet connection or a mobile phone to access a
global audience, and no one could get between your message
and the people who wanted to read it. That idea
of being completely destroyed over the past four years. And
it really happened because of two things. I think because
of the election of Donald Trump, the success of populist movements,
and because the mainstream media saw their market share, their
dominance disappearing under threat from these new upstart media companies
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on the Internet, from ordinary citizen journalists, and that's why
they've spent four years dismantling the original ideal of the Internet.
Album for the part, our billionaires suck, they're either hardcore
left wing activists like the ones we've been talking about,
or if they're on the right, they're too scared to
open their mouths and they just don't do anything. For
the most part. Is Europe going through that same thing.
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I would say in Europe it's more like it's the
government's in charge, it's not the billionaires. So you know.
And while these European governments they may have even you know,
Germany spoke out, as we said, you know, spoke out
against sin sir of Donald Trump, you know, pretty mildly
if they did speak out against it. But these countries
they all have hate speech laws, but they set the terms,
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so they decide what's hate speech and what is and
what can be punished and what can't be punished. They
don't like the idea of Silicon Valley coming in and
setting their own rules. So I think the trend in
Europe that we're going to see is governments taking back
power from Silicon Valley companies and saying, hey, we're in charge,
not you. I'm not gonna lie. Bill Gates creeps me out,
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and I'm not actually I'm not trying to be mean.
He creeps me out. It's not even just the vaccine stuff.
He seems to be involved in each and every part
of things. That I believe are destroying this country in
Western civilization, hardcore environmentalism. He's out there now funding math
is racist programs. What is Bill Gates's steel. It's hard
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to comprehend the motivations of these people. I mean, I
can't speak much about Bill Gates, but like he seems
to be one of these He's part of the whole
philanthropy culture now, and the whole philanthropy culture is very
much tied to these globalist ideals, whether it's you know,
as you said, you know, combating systemic racism, or pushing environmentalism,
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getting us all to eat bugs to save the planet,
all all of these things come from this sort of
you know, very small club of globalists who hang out
to Davos every year, and Bill Dates is very much
a part of that of that culture. But yeah, the
problem with the billionaires, I think is that they all
kind of think the same way we you know, just
look at look at the leaders of Google up in
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that league. Taint that we publish a Brightbart News a
few years ago, right out of the election, They're at
a town hall meeting and you know, some of the
most powerful people in technology all on all on stage
addressing their employees up election, and they all seem to
think the same way. They all have the same visceral
emotional reaction of this election. So when you have that
level of concentrated wealth and power, you know that's bad enough.
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When they all think the same way, then you've got
a huge problem on your hats. Tell me about Google.
Tell me about this because I see things like this report.
Facebook let China buy ads to spread this info on
reager concentration camps. And I know this bleeds into Google.
I know this bleeds into everything else. What is this
relationship with Google and big tech and Facebook in China?
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Why the China love I'm not sure if it's China
loves it well with Google. It certainly is because they
were thinking of building a sense of search engine for
a while and they got so much backlash and they
had to rop it. I think a lot of the
tech companies realize it as too risky to try and
do business in China at the moment because they saw
the backlash over Google's project there. I'm sure they very
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much liked to China's a massive market, a huge business
opportunity there. A lot of companies are you know, probably
a little bit silently upset that the Trump administ the
Trump administration changed policy on China so that now it's
socially and politically unacceptable for companies to cozy up to them.
But the other thing to remember, I think why it
sometimes where it sometimes seems that the tech companies go
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soft in China is because they respond to cues from
the Democrats. Are from the mainstream media, and over the
past four years, the entire narrative has been about Russian collusion,
Russian election interference, because that was a way that the
media thought they could attack Donald Trump, they could get
him impeached and all the rest. So I think that's
why these companies seem to have placed so little emphasis
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on China in relation to Russia's because Russia was so
inflated over the past four years because of the the
mainstream media is panic and conspiracy theories about it. Alan
Bukari go read all this stuff. Thank you, my brother,
I appreciate you. Thanks Jesse, We'll be back. Everybody loves
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watching a good fight, right, especially when it's billionaires squaring off.
I mean, I don't know who to root for ever
when it comes to these things. But apparently Elon Musk
and Jeff Bezos are not fast friends. Must poss asked
for a comment from Washington Post, which of course is
owned by Jeff Bezos. Quote Tesla did not respond to
repeated requests for comment. In response to emails seeking comment,
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Musk replied, give my regards to your puppet master, Wow
joining me now to talk about that and other things.
Creator of the future file legacy planning system in the
Wrath Effect podcast, Carol Roth, Carol, what's the story we
talk between Bezos and Musk. I think everybody just assumes
billionaires always party on the same yachts together, all right,
(21:13):
So I have to do my mister Burns impression excellence.
Very excited we get to talk about the billionaires. I
think this is like a leftover from model Rocket Club
in high school, right, This is you know, who can
get their model rocket higher? It's a model rocket measuring contest.
I guess you've got two guys who are amongst, depending
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on the day, the wealthiest men on the planet. Obviously,
it takes a lot of charisma and government help, by
the way, to get to that level. And so they
are going back and forth and competing with each other.
But they both come from very different perspectives, and so
I think some of the back and forth with them
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is just they're operating in different universes. No pun intended
to Okay, all right, all right, we're switching gears from
the billionaire fight. As much as I'd love to stand,
you know what, I actually no, I have one more thing.
The right is starting to fall in love with Elon Musk.
Elon Musk has been a voice for some of the
things the right likes recently. But I am, by nature
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a distrustful human being, especially when it comes to somebody
with that level of success. Not that I would grudge
anyone that I just naturally distrustful. Should I be distrustful,
Carol Well, I think everyone should always be skeptical of everyone.
And I think that Elon, despite the fact he's obviously
very talented and smart, is not consistent on areas of
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things like individual rights and government intervention. As I alluded to.
He's built his businesses, whether it's Tesla, SpaceX Solar City,
which got merged into Tesla on the back of government subsidies.
He's for UBI, so you know, he likes to play
both sides of the coin, and at the end of
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the day. And this is just my opinion. Elon Musk
wants to get the heck off this planet and get
to Mars, and so he will say anything and do
anything to use other people's capital and resources to get
to that end goal. And that's with driving all this.
Why are people so fascinated with space? I mean, am
I just a bad person? I'm the only person in
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the world who doesn't ever care about space. I don't
care that we land on the Moon. I don't care
that somebody snapped and took some ugly pictures of Mars. Well,
we are here on this planet and that's the only
one I care about. It? Is that just because I'm
a bad person, No, I think I mean, it kind
of depends if you're the kind of person who does drugs, right,
it's escapism of some people escape by doing heroin, and
(23:44):
that then some people wanted literally escaped by pretending they
can get into a rocket ship and get up there.
At the end of the day, you can't escape yourself.
So you and I are probably grounded in the realism
that you know, we enjoy ourselves, and so why would
we want to escape ourselves? But for the people who
don't that's one method that they can pursue for escape.
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That's a really good point, Carol. It's just because I
love me, all right, Bitcoin, Let's pretend like I just
woke up from an eighty year coma. I need Carol
Wath to explain to me what is bitcoin at all?
All right, So I'm gonna just caveat this by saying
I'm not the world's expert in cryptocurrency or bitcoin in particular.
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But the idea behind it, kind of like any of
these anti government movements, is decentralization. Right now, in the
United States, we have a central bank that controls our
money supply, the same thing with central banks around the world.
And so a bunch of people on the Internet got
together and said, wouldn't be cool if we could decentralize
(24:50):
money and decentralize finance. And so you'll hear things like
blockchain and cryptocurrency and bitcoin and defy for these concepts,
which again in concept, are a very good thing, and
I think potentially people will be able to figure it out.
But when you think about something like money, you know,
(25:10):
it's a store of value, it's a unit of account,
and it's a medium of exchange, and right now, Bitcoin
isn't really doing very well in any of those you know,
in terms of a unit of exchange, it's not widely accepted,
and it's hard to use with these digital wallets in
order to sort of access bitcoin. Um, you know, the
(25:31):
value of it fluctuates wildly, So in terms of it
being sort of this stable currency, I personally, both literally
and figuratively, have not bought into it, but do like
the idea that people can take the power away from
a centralized body in terms of controlling the money supply.
(25:52):
I do think that's a good thing. So we're in
the early innings of this. I'm sure we'll all sort
itself out, but you know, that's that's the very small primer.
Un Is this something that's going to actually be Look,
I don't know anything about it. I'm not buying it.
I invest in the safest things humanly possible. But is
this one of these things that's going to bail out
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the guy who was hoarding it as soon as these
people managed to collapse our dollar? So it's possible, you know,
It's one of the problems that I mentioned with bitcoin
is that it hasn't been really stable in terms of
its value. If you've been following it, it's been going
up and up and up, which, again, if it was
this sort of stable store of value, that it's very
(26:35):
difficult to have that stability when you don't really know
what the price is. And so it does seem to me,
again and I'm caveating that I am not the expert
of just kind of looking at it from the sidelines,
is that it's just shifting the power and control to
the people who got in early versus you know, really
(26:56):
spreading it out. So that is a concern, and you'll
see the people who obviously gotten early and have large
stakes in it are honestly highly enthusiastic about it because
it's to their benefit for other people to buy in.
That in of itself doesn't make it a bad thing,
but it certainly should make you want to investigate further
(27:17):
and think about both sides. But certainly, I do think
the desire to have a cryptocurrency, whether it's bitcoin or
something else, something that is decentralized, does stem from that
unrelying fear of what's you know, what are these central
planners doing, what's the FED doing, what happens if and
when the dollar collapses? And wanting to and whether it's
(27:41):
gold or cryptocurrency or having some other mechanism to defend
against that. Don't you think beaches are overrated? I've never
been a beach guy. It's not that I have a
problem with the ocean. I love a little tiky bar
as much as the next man. But the sand is everywhere.
It gets kind of boring after a while. Am I
(28:02):
alone in this? I really feel like we share a
brain and that's exactly my issue with it, the sand.
If they could replace the sand with something else, like
maybe like AstroTurf or something, or your grass, like I
would really be at all. But like you don't want
to mean gets all over. You know, it's always in
your shoes, it's in your luggage for like ten days,
(28:22):
and like you said, you know it's after some at
some point in time, like what are you doing? Like
there's just there's not enough activities. So I also I
like the view of water, like I like it to
be near, but I don't need to be on the
beach to enjoy it. I'll meet you at the tiki bar, Carol.
All right, the market is it scaring you? Is it
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intriguing you? Obviously I'm not asking for specific financial advice
right now. But under Joe Biden, what's it doing? So,
you know, I mean, we're not that far into the
Joe Biden administration, and frankly, presidents only have so much
impact on the market. The bigger issue with the market
that scares me is the amount of support that the
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FED has put in. And I say support. You cann't
call it meddling. You can call it intervention. But there
is definitely a lifting up of asset prices in the markets,
and that is not sustainable. If you look at the
valuations of some of these companies, they're not based on
anything other than the fact that there's just a lot
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of dollars chasing a limited supply of securities. So I
am concerned in the mid to long term. You know,
whether that's going to happen right away, probably not. We've
got some more stimulus, We have some more money that's
coming into ard officially inflate the market, but that is
going to fall apart at some point in time. When
if I knew I'd had that crystal ball, I'd be
(29:53):
sitting on a yacht in the Mediterranean, which I like
better than the beach, and not talking to you but
thinking of you, of course, of course, kil Roth, thank
you so much. Man. I like the idea of a yacht.
I want a yacht. I'm gonna have to keep working
for a while. All right, we'll be back. We've talked
(30:28):
a lot about billionaires. This billionaire and that billionaire. George
Soros's name always comes up in some way. I mean,
he's become this boogie man for the right where you
have to sift through what is real and what's not real.
But here's something that is real. Funded groups funded by
George Soros over thirty outlets in the mainstream media, including
Media Matters. That's some group of scumbags. They focus on
(30:51):
getting shows removed off the air, and he showed they
don't like Hillary Clinton's campaign for president. Black Lives Matter,
maybe you've heard of that domestic terrorist and over five
hundred Democratic Party organizations joining me now as my friend
conservative host John Cardillo, John, George Soros, what's real? What's
not real? It's all real. Everything you're saying is real.
(31:13):
I've been exposing this going back about twenty and twelve,
and interestingly enough, New York State's Attorney General's office has
a very good website when it comes to finding out
who nonprofits donate to, and George Soros is Open Side's foundation.
All of their tax returns are on that website. Many
other states as well, I think right now about thirty
(31:34):
seven states require that. Even going back as far as
twenty twelve thirteen twenty fourteen, when NYPD officers Lew and
Ramos were killed by someone who was affiliated with the
early stages of the Black Lives Matter movement, you could
track the money via these tax returns from SEIU Service
Employee International Union that far Left union, but most importantly
(31:58):
George Soros's foundations. He was making investments in these radical
groups ten years ago, alongside these Marxist unions, etc. So
when guys like you and I talk about this and
we're called conspiratorial, it's infuriating because there is a literal jesse,
a literal paper trail of the funding, and it's a
matter of a matter of public information. Anyone can access
(32:20):
it the mainstree media they choose not to. John helped
me understand as best you can, why what is it
with this guy? Because I'll tell you everything you just
said it is one hundred percent right, And the more
I look into it, it looks like a long term,
focused effort to bring down the United States of America.
(32:42):
I don't have another way to put it them that
that's what it looks like. Is it that? And if so,
why what's this guy's problem? You know? I think it
is that, But I think part of the reason is
something no one's looking at it, and to me, it's
been glaringly obvious. George Soros is a billionaire doing large
part to arbitrage. That buying and selling of money of
George Soros can devalue, in short, the US dollar. He
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makes billions upon billions of dollars and what better we
need to do that? And with civil unrest and destabilizing
this nation, what better way to do that? And with
institutional leftist policies at bankrupt the American treasury. And I
think that's a big part. If you look at Soros's fortune,
especially earned from arbitrage, when these things go down, he
(33:25):
makes a lot of money. Jesse, Yeah, it all seems
so nefarious, but I guess in general, oftentimes with these guys,
it comes down to money. I mean, look, I've been
the one on the record saying I think Bill Gates
is a megalomaniac who would murder millions of people, not
lose a second asleep and think he was a good
guy doing it. We have Bill Gates is now the owner.
(33:46):
He's the largest farm land owner in the country, two
hundred and fifty thousand acres. We're supposed to eat synthetic beef.
Take Bill Gates's vaccine, do everything Bill Gates tells us
to do. Oh and acquitted Bill Gates math is racist.
This again. I think these people are evil. And you know,
fortunately Bill Gates is the largest individual farm landowner in
(34:08):
the country, But there are large families that own this
land under corporations. For example, the Armstrong family down in
Texas that owns the famous King Ranch. They've got an
eighty eight hundred and fifty thousand acres. They tend to
swing a little more conservative, and I think that in
the states where there is a big agriculture presence. Here
in Florida, for example, I have friends a couple of
very high networth families. They own a couple of hundred
(34:29):
thousand acres collectively, and they're galvanizing now to make sure
that none of that land is sold off to these
leftists with these bizarre like anti human policies. This guy
is like one of these environmental wacko terrorsts at this point,
who would kill off humans for some bizarre, misguided agenda. John,
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How did we shift as a country. I mean, there
was a time in this country, love them or hat um,
where our billionaires are, our Rockerfellers, Vanderbilts, all these guys.
There was a time where they were all the republic looks.
I mean, they were all the stereotypical Republican with the
cigar in their mouth and the nine hundred dollar glass
of whiskey. All of our billionaires now and billionaires matter,
there are all these nut jobs who hate the place.
(35:11):
When did this shift happen? You know, it's incredible. I'm
reading at the Shrug again Nan Ratten book, and you're
so right, And it's we pivoted one eighty from that
from who the producers are ideologically, the inventors, the creators
who they were ideologically, to who they are. I think
the shift, Jesse has to be a political one. I
think it needs to come at the state level. The
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federal level were shot. The Biden administration is a regime.
Michael Anton wrote a great piece in American greatness. Last
week he calls it the regime, and I think it's outstanding.
We need to do this at the state level, and
not just the state legislative level. We've got to get
very serious about putting a GOP farm team in place
at the county and state level, because now we don't.
(35:54):
We've got to get those people elected to national positions
that send up the America First Conservatives in the park,
send them up to the RNC and take over the
R ANDC from within with people that truly love this
nation and want to get back to real conservative basics. Okay,
I agree with you when it comes to the local guys.
I've been telling people that all the time, pack your
(36:14):
school boards with your ideology, pack your city council's, mayors,
state rep seats. What I hear when I bring that
up a lot, though, is our billionaires are rich guys.
We have plenty to they don't fund these local things
like the left does. The left the left will package
school board just the package school boarder. These guys won't
want for money. How do we open up the purse
strings on our side that has to be there. That's
(36:37):
the problem, I mean, really is man, That's the one
that makes guys like me who you know. When I'm
not doing media work, I work quite a bit trying
to make this party in America first party again. Our network.
People don't see local elections, local politics, state level politics
as romantic as exciting is sexy. We need to explain
to them that's triple a ball. Yourk Yankees don't win
(37:01):
the World Series. You don't become the New York Yankees.
You don't become a championship team. If you don't have
a robust farm system, the Republican Party is terrible. We
are absolutely terrible at cultivating our farm system, at finding
good new talent, putting them on the bench, cultivating them
and is sending them up. We've got to be much
(37:21):
better at that. And we've got to explain to the
high it worth people that the donors, that's where you
weaponize your money. That's where you actionize your money, not
by being one of many donors to a congressman, to
a congresswoman, finding that new breed of candidate that will
fundamentally change the party and make you wealthier, make you
more powerful, be better for your family, your life, your business. John,
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I've been when I tell people to run for office.
I get this a lot from people, I'm too scared,
or I can't run for school board, I've never been
a teacher, or I don't even have kids, or something
like that anymore. Can we please get the message across
the people it doesn't matter. Get in there and push
your values. It doesn't that's what they're doing. Don't get
in there and be a little mouse. Either, get in
(38:08):
there and push your values. Our culture has to stand
for something. Yeah, I suggest everybody read that short Teddy
Roosevelt essay, The Man in the Arena, and basically it's
got the critical accounts. It's if you're not in the fight,
your opinion really doesn't matter. Get into the fight in
some way, because otherwise you're just somebody on the sidelines yelling,
(38:29):
yelling at the air. Nobody really cares. You've got to do.
You've gotta get involved. Become a precinct committee person, run
for school board, run for city council. Look a guy
that retired of the NMPDA. Guy went through the academy
with a rookie, lived in a town in upstate New York.
Didn't like what was going on. He ran for the
city Planning Commission, he won. Now he's actually making a
(38:50):
difference about the things that concerned him. These things are doable,
they're attainable, and you have a lot more power than
you realize once you do them. John. For those who
don't know, John's former NYPD, John, why are you in
Florida now and not in New York? We are I
moved down in seventeen years ago and I never looked back.
(39:10):
Look the city change tremendously after nine to eleven. What
I saw it becoming into the Bloomberg administration. He was
a little heavy handed, but he was tough on crime.
I disagreed with Michael Bloomberg on about everything. The only
thing Bloomberg did right was that he left the NYPD
alone crime and declined because he left Rudy Giulian his
(39:31):
strategies in place. He knew they worked. Ray Kelly was
a good commissioner. He left it all in place at work.
I left an O four because I just grew up
in New York. It was a little bit of malaise
in the city after nine to eleven, but after the
Blasio entered office, I could never go back. He is truly,
truly destroyed a city that anybody would have thought was
(39:52):
the unsinkable Molly Brown. Right, de Blasi has been able
to destroy that city and under a year. John Cardilo,
thank you so much for my brother. I appreciate you anytime. Man. Thanks.
Look he's right about that man in the arena stuff too.
I hate to point at you and tell you you
(40:14):
need to do this thing, and maybe you don't. Maybe
you don't have time, maybe it's really not possible. If
it's at all on your heart, run for something local.
Maybe it's state rep. If you want to go a
little higher, but run for your school board. I don't
care what you know. I don't care what you don't know.
You need to run the people on your school board
(40:34):
off your school board. Almost Undoubtedly, the left is in
the schools for a reason, and it's not there just
because they love kids. They're there to make sure your
kids think like them. You get there to make sure
your kids and everyone else is think like you. All Right,
we're not done yet, we'll be back. You don't have
(41:08):
to hate billionaires. Avoid that. That's jealousy inside of you,
jealousy inside of me. We have to avoid that. You do, however,
have to really, really, really care about the men who
lead your nation. It is a very, very very big
deal that America's billionaires are most powerful people in this country.
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Don't want the same America you want. And I call
them communists, cultural Marxists, whatever you want to call them
all the time. But the truth is this. They don't
believe in passive power. They don't believe in just having
a gigantic company. And well, I mean, hopefully everything works
out the way I want it to. These are the
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types of men and that ideology. They're out to make
sure it goes the way they want it to go.
That's something we all have to acknowledge. We have to
make sure your friends know, your family knows, and we
have to do something about it. All right, I'll see
you on the Jordan Harbinger Show. You'll hear amazing stories
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even an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family.
You're about to hear a preview of the Jordan Harbinger
Show with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career
was twenty four out of twenty six years was solely
dedicated working on the cover I walk in, I'm in
the bar. How there's a bar made dad, good looking
(42:40):
young lady. See serving me, Joey, Hey, what would you like?
I usually my frank was give me a kettle, one martini,
three olives, class of water on the side. I finished
the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna go go
in my pocket, take out the big wad of money. Hey, am,
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I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That
(43:01):
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