December 14, 2023 • 45 mins
Whenever Jesse Kelly went on Tucker Carlson's show, it was absolute fireworks. Headlines were made. Now, Jesse turns the tables and interviews Tucker Carlson himself. They discuss the launch of the Tucker Carlson Network on TuckerCarlson.com and a variety of topics. Nothing is off the table. Plus, good news for Donald Trump with Julie Kelly and bad news for America with Chip Roy.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tucker Carlson joins us tonight. That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Julie Kelly joins us with good news. We're gonna have
a blast tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
But I'm right.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You know what's awesome watching traditional media watching their power evaporate.
And look, you watched the first here, you can watch
the first on direct TV.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We have an app. You could watch it on Rumble.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Alternative media sources are rising and rising fast, and that
is a great thing. And as soon as I found
out Tucker was starting his own network, it put a
big fat smile on my face.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Here he is talking about it.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
They told you the guys torching Wendy's in twenty twenty
were mostly peaceful. They said that mask worked. They told
you the fax was safe. They've tried to convince you
that Russia blew up his own Typeline or Bread Media
lied too much and it killed them.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
We're driving to see join us on.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Believe me when I wait, I should be doing cutting.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But like fantastic, Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That does my heart well to see that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
TCN go sign up for Tucker's new network.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Join Team Tucker at Tuckercarlson dot com. And Tucker joins
us now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, Tucker, So you know, I have this TV show
and I have a radio show called The Jesse Kelly Show.
But you started an entire network. Was this just the
Tommy Topperty?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Is that why you did it?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's just untrammeled egomania. I love to say my own name.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I hate the same. I hate to say my.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Own name, and I'm fifty four and I can barely
still to this day, barely pronounce my own name because
there are too many seas in it. But I mean,
we had all kinds of ideas for a name, but
they were all taken.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So my name's weird enough, we went with that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, in the In the end, I appreciate you keeping
it simple and honestly, it is a great thing to
watch the power of traditional media go down and have
other sources rise. The fact that they hate it so
much means it's a really, really good thing because they
are the most evil, despicable people out there.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I totally agree with that, and it's nice to see
a little bit of justice. I mean, their destruction is
in the win column. And you watch for the past
five or six years as people get away with these
almost unbelievable crimes, while over one thousand decent people, most
of them more in middle class old people, are put
in jail for exercising their constitutional rights to protest on
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January sixth, And you think, where's the justice? Is anyone
ever going to get what they deserve for the crimes
they've committed?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And I think.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And I think most people believe that legacy media have
committed actual crimes against the country and made the country
weaker and are actively trying to destroy it. And yet
there's still sort of cruising along on the residual prestige
of the previous fifty years. And so it's nice to
look at the numbers and realize, wait, NBC News won't
exist in ten years, maybe not even five. You know,
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these places are all collapsing. How great is that? How
deserved is that they're liars? There's no reason they should
be getting rich doing that. So yeah, I'm really happy
about it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Actually, Tucker, do you find it weird because I do
that they are they look at numbers. Right, It's all
a business, right, this is a business. The first is
a business. The talker calls a network, and it is
a business. It's a four. It's not a charity. They're
looking at numbers. They're looking at their numbers go down,
they're looking at their viewership go down, and nobody now
the CEO is not the host, nobody is even suggesting.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
A change of course.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's like the one thing they can do to save themselves,
they refuse to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I think it's baffling.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And they're all becoming more alike. That's the amazing thing.
I mean, if something's not working, if I look over
at my neighbor and he's doing something counterproductive, I think
to myself, I probably shouldn't do that because that's.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The result of it.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And yet all the news, every news organization is becoming
more like every other news organization, and it's not working
for any of them. So you're running like what is this?
And it's a couple. I mean, it's delusion, it's a religion.
But it's also like a lack of self awareness. They
don't talk to anybody but one another, and so they
blame their failure on irrelevant factors, like they're like, well,
(04:30):
you know, it's just like viewer habits have changed. Well,
viewer habits have changed because you're a liar and you
have no more credibility and no one would watch you,
because what's the point of listening to things that aren't true?
But that never occurs to them. It's and I've worked at,
you know, every one of those places full time, and
so I think I've got a pretty good perspective on this.
These are people who are, you know, high achievers on
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the SAT I think they have high IQs, most of them.
But they're so unwise it's almost unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Where do you think they get the disdain for normal people?
Like you brought up the January six ers, and I
love that you talk about them. We've been talking about
them for three years now. It's just it's awful. But yeah,
you could really sense it from these people if you
read their social media posts, you see their broadcasts, not
even Republicans, Democrats, just normal people. They really do look
on them. Was such distate. They tell everybody now that
(05:24):
the economy is doing well. You see it all the
time New York Times media. The economy's great. I don't
know why people are complaining. Check the numbers. People are
paying six bucks for a pound of burger in the
grocery store, and these people lecture them about how well
they're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Of course well It's a really simple principle that's a
feature of human nature, and that's what you're watching. It's
that you hate the people you wrong. You think you
feel empathy for the people you wrong or guilt over
wronging them, But it's just totally true. The kinder you
are to somebody, the more you like that person. One
of the reasons you love your kids, you're wired to
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be nice to them, and so the nice you are,
the more you cherish them. But if you do someone
a bad turn, if you're unfair to someone, if you're
cruel to someone, if you screw someone in a business deal,
you wind up hating that person. As grotesque as that is,
that's just true. And legacy media have really hurt middle
class America. And the more they hurt middle class America,
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and in really measurable ways by ignoring their deaths, life
expectancy declines, mostly because of the opioid crisis, but also
because of diabetes and just the general poverty that's descended
on the middle class, and the.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Media ignore that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
In fact, they celebrate it and get into this, you know,
we hate white people, we hope white people die. And
the more they say stuff like that, the more you know,
the anti white racism, the total disregard for ordinary people.
The more they hate those people, It's super interesting, even
though those people have never done anything to them ever.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Of course, Tucker, speaking of anti white I ordered a
couple pieces for the studio last that and on one
of them I got Alfredo sauce instead of Pizza sauce,
and my entire staff here at the studio complained and
made fun of me.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Jesse's so stupid. Yeah, but yet that was the first
pizza gone, Tucker, is this.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Something that people Why can't people just admit when they're wrong?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's a really fair question, though I'm not really qualified
to answer it, because the idea of an Alfredo pizza
is so repugnant to me that I can't consider this
question fairly. Like I've never seen an Alfredo pizza, but
if I did, I would look away. It's almost like
those pictures you get on the dark Web of like
war atrocities.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It hurts you to look at them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So that's how I feel about Alfredo pizza.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's fine. You can be wrong. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You got your own network, You can say whatever you want.
I'm not here to judge anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay, we have no pizza advertisers.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, if you're not getting one now, Tucker, hey, is
Joe Biden gonna make it next year? I just can't
see the system. And it's not about you know, him
being old and pooping his pants in front of the
Pope and all the other things he does. I just
can't see the system risking their power by allowing an
unpopular man to run again. I understand everything's in place
for him to run again, and that's the likely scenario
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if you had to bet your mortgage on it. There's
no way they're gonna let him do it. It's either
gonna be Dome or it's gonna be New, So it's
gonna be somebody.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I mean, I think your instincts on this stuff in
general are always spot on, and I couldn't agree with
you more on that. I mean, there's no cults of
Joe Biden. There's no affection for Joe Biden Biden legacy.
His family's embarrassing and totally dysfunctional. His wife is transparently
loathsome obviously, his kids are a mess. It's not Camelot people,
(08:42):
you know what I mean. It's the only value in
Joe Biden is transactional. Can you beat Donald Trump and
hold power.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
For the rest of us?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And the second he can't do that. Second the polls
show he can't do that, and they show that, I mean,
Trump is winning by a pretty good margin in the
matchups right now. Then what's the point of Joe Biden?
Plus he's embarrassing. It is embarrassing. I mean, you've got
to think some of these people want to live in
the country after twenty twenty four and having a weak
president is itself, even if he had great policies. But
(09:12):
just the fact that the whole world knows the purportedly
most powerful country on the planet is being led by
a dementia patient.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's bad.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's bad for everybody right there.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So I don't see.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Any chance that they keep him, and I don't know
why they would. And I think DNC rules allow them
to swap out the nominee at the convention, and I
would think I would think Gavin Newsom, who's the most
evil of them all, you know, the most soulless, the
most happy to lie right to your face while smiling.
That guy seems like a natural leader for the Democratic Party,
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the Party of lies.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
How do they remove dome?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And then this is a very very ambitious woman, as
we can tell by how she got her start in politics.
She's not just going to step aside for Gavin Newsom
or anybody. Is maybe the most soulless, rudderless human being
I think I've ever seen in politics. This is not
an ounce of genuine inside of her. She's gonna try
for that top office. Lord knows, she'll do whatever she
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has to do for that top office.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So how do you get her out?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's such a great question. And I assume this is
taking up approximately eighty percent of the brain power of
the Democratic brain trust right now.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It won't be easy. I mean, you often hear you know,
black women are the core of the Democratic vote. Well,
she's not an African American woman. You know, her dad
was from the Caribbean, he was a college professor. Her
mother's from India. She's a college dresser. She's nothing in common.
I mean, the whole thing is insane, but apparently that's
a factor. But the real factor is her. I mean,
she's inadequate as a person. She knows that she's brittle
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and insecure. As a result of it, that's obvious when
you watch her. It's also clear that politics is all
she has. She doesn't have children, she doesn't have a
real marriage, Like it's not like she can go back
to the farm and spend time with her grandkids. She
literally never had children. So why would she give this up?
And from her perspective, because she's grown up in a
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world where unearned self esteem is the currency for people
in her position. Oh, you're oppressed, You're wonderful. I mean,
she kind of can't accept this. And by the way,
what are they going to give her? I mean seriously,
in exchange for a real chance of being president, what
could you give someone? So I don't know what they're
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going to do. I think it's the toughest problem they face.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Tucker.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
This isn't the first time you and I have been
on the air together, but it is the first time
I have interviewed you. And my staff dug up some
of my highlights from when you were interviewing me, and
I'm going to play this for you, and I want
to know which one was your favorite.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Here it was.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We don't need a military that's woman friendly, We don't
need a military that's gay friendly. With all due respect
to the Air Force. We need a military that's flat
out hostile. We need a military full of type A
men who want to sit on a throne of Chinese skull.
And soon you're Chelsea Handler. Soon it's Valentine's Day and
your womb resembles a dried up tumbleweed blowing down an
(12:07):
old western town, and your Valentine's Day date for the
tenth year in a row is a ten year old
copy of Magic Mike and a half full bottle of Xenax,
and you're trying to pretend, Mike, you're happy. Everybody watching
you right now has worked for or worked with somebody
who just has ambition.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Just dripping off of their pores. And that's Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Those types of people will do anything to get ahead.
They treat their bosses like crap, They treat their employees
like crap. That's why she knifed Joe Biden in the
debate with all that race nonsense.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
There was no need to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's the same reason she cackles like a dead hyena
every time she's asked an uncomfortable question.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's the same reason she started out.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Her political career as Willie Brown's Brought Worst Bun Kamala
Harris will do anything to get ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
There's so many shoes from but Willie Brown's Broughtworst Bun
has got to be your the top but personal favorite.
And I remember when you said it because it was
so dry and subtle. You were so expressionless and you
said comma with apologies to the Air Force, Comma.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
People don't.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
People don't usually attempt that on television because it's just
too subtle, and so, you know, TV people always go
for the obvious joke. It takes balls to go for
the one that you know ninety percent of the audience
will miss. But it's so worth it because the ten
percent who get it, and like, wait, what did you say?
Those people will appreciate it so much that you are
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making their day and you made mine with that.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh jeez, to be a force. Oh that was so good.
That was a fun night. I'll never forget.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
The Chinese state run media Giant came after us both
after that. Gosh, that was so freaking hilarious.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
All right, what's it? Tuckercarlson dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I know I can't get an Alfredo pizza, so what
can I get at Tucker Carlson dot com.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Oh, a whole cornacopia of me. You're gonna look, what
you're getting is a replacement for what's going away, which
is NBCCBS, ABC, CNN all the rest. Look, someone needs
to cover the news, and so we are, and we're
gonna do it with true honesty, like true honesty, including
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the acknowledgment of mistake. If we screwed up, we're gonna
say so immediately without hedging. I mean, that's support. You know,
if you want people to trust you, you have to
admit when you're wrong. And that's always been my policy
and it will continue to be. But yeah, documentaries, interviews,
lots of it, and a bunch of other features and
(14:38):
stuff that we think for amusing and then you know,
in the coming.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Year, a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But yeah, we're building a network and it's pretty cheap
and we think it's absolutely necessary. Look, I mean, if
I'm gonna be totally honest with you, the next twelve
months are going to be you know, I think very
volatile and potentially extremely volatile, and I hope that's not
the case, but I think it's entirely possible, in fact,
maybe even likely.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So You've got.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Tens of millions of young men from foreign countries whose
identities we know nothing about, and Democrats in the Congress
are trying to push them into the military. So people
show up in your country from Africa or Latin America,
you have no idea who they are, with the criminal record,
and then you hand them automatic weapons. What is that about?
(15:23):
I mean, honestly, what is that about. Why would our
leaders want to assemble an army of foreigners who know
nothing about this country, may not even speak the language,
and then turn them loose in our country. So, I mean,
you know, I don't know the answer to that. I
find that the single most ominous thing that's happening. But
I think we need to be prepared for some radical
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stuff to happen in the next twelve months. And I
want to stay in the air. And I'm just absolutely
worried about an advertiser model. I love advertisers, even the
Alfredo pizza guys, but I've been through a lot of
advertiser boycotts in thirty years in the media, and I
don't want that in the middle of an election. So
you need a different model. You need to figure out
a way to pay your staff with money that can't
(16:05):
be taken away from you, and that's from your viewers.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's a subscription model. So that's why we're doing that. Yeah, No,
I like it. It's smart. And Yeah. The military thing.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I caught Dick Derbin when he said that on the
House floor, pitching for these illegals in the military, and I.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Have the exact same thought, talker.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Look, the red blooded American mail from Nebraska may very
well refuse his orders to fire on you and your family.
But private first class deep deep from whatever country he is,
he has no loyalty to you, to.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Your country, to your constitution.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
He's going to be loyal to whoever's handing out citizenship
at the end.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
What troubles me about the debate now about the southern
border is it is one half of the immigration equation.
Presiding Officer, my colleague from the state of Illinois has
legislation which addresses one aspect to that Herbelle, and I
hope I describe it accurately. Says that if you're an
undocumented person in this country, and you can pay ask
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the physical and the required test, background test the like,
you can serve in our military. And if you do it, honorably.
We will make you citizens of the United States.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
They're spying on I mean, military intelligence is spying on Americans.
That never happened. When you served in the military. The
military's mission was really clear, defend the country from foreigners.
And now the military is being used domestically a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And so if you're going to fill.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Its ranks with foreigners and arm them, I should be
really worried about that. Why is no one saying this?
This is a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
In my opinion, It's not as if at any point
in time in history communists have used the military against
their own citizens.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They would certainly never consider something like that. I would strongly.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Suggest everybody go to Tuckercarlson dot com and sign up.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
He's right, it's affordable. It's a place you can actually
get some real news. My man. I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I know you're going to be a smash success, as
you always are, and I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Thank you, Jesse, great to see it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
We'll be back. Good news we have Julie Kelly. No,
that's not the only good news.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Julie Kelly is bringing good news with her, and we've
been needing that badly. So I'm not going to give
out the dates and the news and everything else.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Let's let Julie do that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
She's the actual journalist here joining me now, Julie Kelly,
go subscribe to her substack declassified if you want to.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Stay up to date on all this stuff. Okay, Julie
Trump had.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
A couple trial dates March fourth and May twentieth, and
now he doesn't have those dates anymore.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
What happened, Well, technically, the March fourth trial date in Washington,
d C. For Jacksmith's indictment related to the events of
January sixth and Trump's alleged attempt to overturn the twenty
twenty election. That trial date is still there, but it
is almost impossible to see a situation where it stays.
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The reason why is because Judge Tanya Chuckkin, the Obama
appointee who's overseeing this case in Washington DC, finally admitted
yesterday that because Donald Trump is appealing her order of
immunity denying him executive and presidential immunity from prosecution, that
appellate process automatically suspends all of the pre trial deadlines.
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Now these are very important deadlines, Jesse. There were deadlines
actually this week for motions and information that had to
be filed by both sides. You're talking about things like
jury selection, which is supposed to start right after the
first of.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
The year, motions eliminae, which.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Is where both sides file motions talking about what evidence
they want to present to the jury, what witnesses they
want to call. So these are very important deadlines, and
it really was going to accelerate after the first of
the year. But now it's all on hold as this
appealed process either works this way through the Appellate Court
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in Washington or as Jack Smith has requested, to bypass
the appellate court and get an immediate ruling on presidential
immunity from the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Okay, well this sounds good, but how did we get
a win. We haven't had very many wins and certainly
no wins out of this court system. Is it Scotus
that did us a favor of what happened here?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Well, what really happened is that this is a crisis
of Judge Chutkin and Jack Smith's own making. Recall Jesse
that they did not indict Donald Trump until thirty months
after January sixth. Then Jack Smith went to Judge Chutkin
and asked for this accelerated trial schedule. Usually January sixth
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cases go anywhere from fourteen, eighteen, even two years between
indictment and trial. She gave a seven month window, completely
unrealistic that this was going to happen in March. Given
all of the litigation, especially related to claims of presidential immunity,
that has not been settled either in the Constitution or
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by the Supreme Court. So they created this crisis, they
rushed this trial, and now, as I said yesterday, karma
is catching up with them and there's just no way
this March forward trial date can stick.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
So then what happens, Jesse They move.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
It to April or May, the May twentieth trial date
for classified documents that will be out the window. So
they've got a lot of things imploating at the same time.
And as I call myself the Debbie Downer of democracy, yesterday,
actually I had a big smile on my face.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
So it's nice to bring good news once in a while.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Good.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No, that is good, it really is, truly. So I
understand a lot of this is up in the air.
Is this trial still going to happen before the election
or is that pretty much toast now too?
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Well, you know, if the Supreme Court does deny Trump's
presidential immunity claims, then of course they will proceed with
this trial. But how are they going to do that
in say, even April or May, when you're talking a
month or so before Trump, as we presume, will be
accepting the Republican nomination for president. So they're really running
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up against a lot of clock's judicial clocks and of
course the political clock, and it will be even more
And we saw this with Jacksmith's motion this week trying
to bypass the Appellate Court. We now see that this
is a rush to get a conviction, not just before
election day, but before Trump does accept the nomination. If
that's the case. So he tipped his hand this week.
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This is not about rule of law. No one is
above the law or et cetera, et cetera. As we've
been told, this is a rush for Jacksmith and Judge
Chudkin to get a conviction and possibly get him behind bars.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
But what happened was the Supreme.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Court not just this week related to presidential immunity, but
also taking up the fifteen twelve C. Two count, which
represents half of Jack Smith's or account criminal indictment. If
the Supreme Court determines the DOJ has abused that statute,
which it has, then that severely jeopardizes half of Jack
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Smith's indictment.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
So he's got a lot. The ball is in his court.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
What does he do now, does he voluntarily ask to
move the trial date? Will he drop those two counts
that are now before the Supreme Court? In issue is
supersite superseding indictment, like we've talked about before. So we're
all sort of sitting here waiting to see what Jack
Smith's next move is. But he's got a lot of
unappealing options if you're him anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, Julie.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now more importantly to me personally is the January six ers.
I know they matter to you, and I love that.
We've talked about this many many times. These are normal
people and no one no one has a fan that,
none of these people have a fan club, right, but
real people are rotting in prison. Does any of this
maybe help them?
Speaker 8 (25:04):
It absolutely does, and not I will tell you Jesse.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
When the Supreme Court accepted this petition finally, this was
a day a lot of January sixth defendants have been
waiting for more than three hundred and twenty seven defendants
have been charged with this in addition to Donald Trump.
So the reaction that I was getting yesterday was sort
of a mix of people texting me saying that they
were crying about the news. They were finally so relieved
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that maybe a court would step in and do the
right thing here. I also had other people texting that
they were just outraged and infuriated. You know, where do
they get their lives back? They are now convicted felons,
They've lost the right to vote, They've lost their firearms.
A lot of people lost their businesses, have been bankrupted.
Some people have lost their marriages. We know of one
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Matthew Perna, who, after he found out that DOJ was
going to ask for years in prison after he pleaded
guilty to obstruction, hanged himself in his garage in twenty
twenty two. Where does the Perna family go to get
Matthew back? I mean, this is real human wreckage that
has been left in the wake of DOJ's intentional weaponization,
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bastardization of this statue that has nothing to do with
interrupting a meeting of Congress. So I feel very hopeful
that the Supreme Court will do the right thing and
will give not just DOJ, but fifteen to strict court
judges the spanking that they deserve severe admonishment for intentionally
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misapplying this law and destroying the lives of hundreds of people.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
In their families in the process.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Julie, you sound pretty confident about the Supreme Court, and
that helps my confidence level because I'll tell you, maybe
I'm just a born cynic. I don't trust the Supreme
Court as far as I can throw Elena Kagan.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
We do know that at least four justices agreed to
grant cert in this case, so they do have to
have four justices who accept to take the review.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
So that's a good sign.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
But look, most legal analysts will agree, even some on
the left, that there's no way the statute should have
been used this way. And the appellate ruling that the
Court will now review was what's called a splintered ruling.
A three judge panel essentially rendered three different decisions about
whether this statute was being correctly applied. So the Supreme
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Court really has no other decision but to look at
that appellate ruling, look at the language and the intention
of the language. Was what was happening on January sixth
really an official proceeding the purpose of that law was
related to criminal investigations or congressional investigations, not a ceremonial function.
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And did these people corruptly interfere in that proceeding. That's
an other part of this statute. So these are all
the sort of dicey issues that the Supreme Court is
going to have to flesh out if they don't overturn
this Jesse.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
What you have now, is it a.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Witness tampering or evidence tampering statue that now will be
codified and used to punish political dissent, especially in Washington DC.
I doubt that the Supreme Court that's the pathway that
they want to take.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Fingers crossed, Julie, if you are the best, if I'll
talk to you beforehand. You have a merry Christmas. That's
freaking awesome. How about that good news? Chip Roy's going
to join us next and yeah, some not so good news. Hey,
what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Life?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Is it all sunshine and rainbows? Before we talk to Chip,
I have extra good news tonight. You're not stuck in
your time share anymore. That time share you've been having
to pay the annual fees for you'd never even go.
You want out, but they tell you what, Sorry, you
signed the contract. You're stuck for life. Lone star transfer
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will get you out. This is a family business. A
plus rating with a better business bureau. They will legally
and permanently get you out. Ninety nine percent of the
time they're successful. They put it in writing, they give
you a date, We'll get you out this time frame.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
They can't do it unless you call him, though.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You can sit at home and stew about writing another
check to the timeshare you never use. Or you can
just call lone Star Transfer and be free eight four
four three one zero two six four six. Call them,
we'll be back. The NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act,
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just passed the House. It pass the Senate, and it
absolutely sucks. And somebody, my friendship Roy is going to
join us now. He voted against it, of course he would. Congressman,
all right, thank you for voting once again the right way.
What the heck is wrong with the rest of this
crappy party. Why are we authorizing a very very evil
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federal government to spy on us illegally?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yale Jesse Bersutal, good to be on you know, Merry
Christmas from Congress to you, to you and everybody out there.
We just passed a massive spying operation on the back
of the men and women in uniform, and you know,
thank you for your service.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Thanks to the service of all the viewers out there
that watch your show.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
But I don't think any of you who signed up
and wore the uniform signed up to defend the country
ought that is, passing legislation to spy on American But
you and I both know there was rampant spying. There
was two hundred and seventy eight thousand incidents of spying
in which the FBI was abusing their powers. And all
we're being told now is, oh, don't worry about it,
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the MBI is fixing it.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Well, we could have passed a reform bill, but we
didn't do it.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
With all due respect to Speaker Johnson and too Republicans
in the House, we didn't get that done. So what
they did instead was they took the National Defense Authorization
at which was problematic in and of itself, by the way,
didn't do what it needed to do to reform all
the woke policy, and they layered FISA, the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act Authorization, on the back of it, which means
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we just punned not just till April, but actually all
the way till April.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
With the continuation of the procedures that have been used
to abuse the spying authority to target American We could
solve it.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
We didn't. That's on Republican and that's a problem.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And the other thing about this is we allowed the
deal to be cut with a watered down Defense bill
which maintains most of the woke policies. That's killing the
morale and the recruiting at the Department of Defense, which
I know you know better than most.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Congressman.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I know you get the same emails and same phone calls,
very similar ones that I get.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But I'll tell you my inbox was full, and I.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Showed up in the studio today of people saying things
like Jesse, why would I even keep voting for Republicans?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Why would I support Republicans? Why would I even bother?
I'll vote for nobody, I'll vote Democrat and just collapse
the whole stupid thing.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
This is a drum beat now that I hear all
the time, Chip and I know you do too.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, I do. I get it.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
And my response when I get the same question as this,
we are in fact moving the needle in the needle
in the right direction. I will tell you I have
colleagues of mine who are super pissed off at me
right now. And these are colleagues that two months ago
they are happy with because maybe I was working with
them on something, and then a month later they're mad,
and then they're happy. They don't like things to change here,
and they run out of fear. Okay, they run out
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of fear of the next deadline. They run out of
fear of oh my god, FIZES is gonna expire and the.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
World's gonna end.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
They do that because they're conditioned to. We're breaking that. Okay,
we just need to keep moving the needle so that
conservatives can keep shining a light on how broken this
place is, so that we can actually change the town.
I will be the first one to admit so far,
this Republican majority has not delivered. We have, however, stopped
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Democrats in Congress from moving the ball farther down the field.
We have kept the ball pretty much on our side
of the field for the most part, with respective policies.
But here we are now, we just broke that for
the first time. Really, we just said, fine, you're gonna
go ahead and you move this legislation that's going to
continue FIZA. So my answer is next year, go to
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the win in the primaries, force conservatives to win in
the primaries and races, so we can get more people
who are willing to say no and fight.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
The establishment in this town.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Because right now, increasing the debt ceiling, extending PISASA, funding
a defense or authorizing a defense that's woke, and passing
continuing resolutions and Nancy Felosi's spending bills. That's not getting
the job done. So we're gonna keep calling out Republicans.
I don't care how mad they get at me about it.
I'm going to shine the light on it so we
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can keep building the numbers. So here's the deal. We
had one hundred and eighteen no votes on this. That's
a really good number. We came up about twenty somethings
shy killing it. Democrats actually kind of left us strained it.
And here's why Democrats realized they were winning on this.
They got a good deal in the defense build haking.
Jeffardies is actually actually saying that publicly. We've got to
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stop giving wins to Democrats and start giving wins to
the American people.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, tell me we're getting somewhere on border security. I
know you're hot on this. And I'm glad you are.
I know you've been pressing this. Are we getting something,
Don't get me wrong, No offense to chi if I'm
not hopeful that you can do anything to make the
Biden administration secure the border that they want to open.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
But are we getting somewhere?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
We have two leverage points on the border. One is Ukraine,
which neither you or I truly want to send much
more money to Ukraine, if any, but we could leverage
it to get border security. The second would be the
Department of Homelands security funding sometime in late January. Those
are our only two leverage points to force an administration that
doesn't want to follow the law. So right now, what's
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happening is the Senate Senate Republicans are negotiating with the
White House trying to cut a deal to get border
security up some form with a Ukraine package.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
You know, and I know exactly how that will go.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
We will get big leaves, we will get some crumbs,
some you know, scraps from the table, a border security
in exchange for a big put of money for Ukraine.
Because the Lenski came here and everybody's running around saying,
oh my god, putin, We've.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Got to do it. Meanwhile, look at your screen, Look
at the video you playing.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
There are thousands of people pouring across the border, and
I've got Republicans on the floor coming up to me.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Going, well, shit, what can we do? We don't have
the Senate. How can we do anything? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
How about by sticking your middle finger up at the
White House to saying kiss my ass. We're not going
to give you a dollar for Ukraine until you actually
fully secure the border. So that's my message to my Johnson,
that's my message to Center Republicans. Do not blink HR two.
Secure the border or Zelensky and Ukraine can pound sand.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
That's what all the Ans are ought to be.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Speaking of the White House, they've had a rough twenty
four hours. Corin Diversity Hires asked yesterday about all this
Hunter Biden stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Here is how that went.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
The President was familiar with what Hunter was going to
say today. Hunter, and I've said this many times as
a private citizen, and so certainly I would have to
refer you to his representatives. I'm just not going to
get into private conversations because what you're asking me is
actually a private conversation.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Why doesn't Present Biden just pardon him?
Speaker 10 (36:40):
President.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
I've been very clear the President's not going to partner.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Of course, he's going to pardon his son.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But okay, all right, Chip, I'm not hopeful.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
We're going to get a Joe Biden impeachment.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We don't have the majority for that, and half these
Republicans are low t weenies anyway. But an impeachment inquiry
is beneficial, right, exposing this dirt ball family.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah, so we need the increy in order to get
more tools to force them to respond to subpoenas there
currently with some actual authority. Trump claimed it as well
that if you don't have an impeachment inquiry, they are
not necessarily having to be as a response into some
of these things. So if we passed the inbreak, which
we did, we now have the tools to force their
hand on it a little bit. But let me be
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very clear, Hunter Biden, yesterday, I don't know if you
noticed this, Jesse, when he went to the microphone, he
said something very important. He said to his father, Joe Biden,
the President of the United States, had not been involved financially.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
With his business dealing.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Now, first of all, we don't know if that's true
or not, but let's take him at his word. Why
did he choose that wording. I'll tell you why he
chose that wording, because everyone with eyes knows for sure
that Hunter Biden was selling access, selling the Biden brand,
selling his dads, sitting there in meetings which we now
have witnesses who testified that he was there well knowing
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what was going on, that millions of dollars were flowing
in the Hunter Biden and the Biden family, and that
that would therefore benefit the entire Biden family. And so
whether money flowed directly to Joe Biden or not is
somewhat irrevolv it because the president's been lying about what's
been going on and then obstructing justice to the Department
of Justice by failing to allow witnesses to testify, limiting
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what they can do, and trying to jam down our
access to the tax records from twenty fourteen and fifteen,
where we know Joe Biden may well have had some involvement.
This is purposeful. We have every right to go look
into this. I'm not one of these guys that wants
to do it for politics. Oh, we got to do it.
I think we need to do it because truth needs
to be followed wherever it may lead.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
We believe this corruption.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
At the highest level in the White House in terms
of four and dollars flowing to the Biden family for
the enrichment of his family, and he knew it, and
we ought to be able to pursue the truth.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
See that's the difference between you and me. Chip.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You're a good person. You want to do it because
it's the right thing to do. I want to do
it just to smear these people and drag them through
the mud. Congressman, you have a merry Christmas to you
and yours. Thank you for doing what you do. All right,
let's talk about something. Speaking of the right thing to do.
It's the right thing to do to take care of
your dog. It's the right thing to do to give
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your dog some rough greens. You see your dog, he
doesn't get nutrition from his dog food.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I know we think we are giving them nutrition.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You walk in these dog food stores and all this
is a special blend. All let's get them the salmon
blended at it's all dead. Why do you think it's
all brown? Why does it all look the same? They
kill everything in dog food at the factory. You give
your dog empty calories with every dog food meal. Pour
rough Greens on the food, all natural nutritional supplement your
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dog will go crazy for. And it has everything your
dog needs, vitamins and minerals and probiotics. My dog doesn't
have digestive problems anymore because of rough Greens.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You'll see a difference in your dog's energy. Is coat?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I mean, don't you have a difference in your life
when you get real nutrition versus no roughgreens? Dot com
slash Jesse for a free jumpstart trial bag, or you
can call them eight three three three three my dog,
all right.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
We'll be back.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
You know what's wild to me about the GOP. I mean,
there's a lot of lame, pathetic things about the GOP,
but one of the things that drives me insane is
their refusal to speak up about the open anti white
racism that is everywhere in this society now. And the
anti white racism it's not just coming from some freak
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on a street corner.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Now, from the highest levels of power, these people will
dog on white people. They'll openly promote racism against white people.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Always. It's always paid. It is anti racism or something
like that. White people go ahead and try to apply
for a college scholarship somewhere, businesses will openly announce whites
need not apply. Sorry, only diversity hires here. It's everywhere
you see, It's everywhere in Hollywood. Did you see this
new Netflix show.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
I'm asking for you to remember that if the world
falls apart, trust should not be dulled out easily to anyone,
especially white people. Even Mom would agree.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
With me on that.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I know you're going to find this shocking.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
But the producers of that little film, or Barack and
Michelle Obama, who have both had a real hate on
for white people for a very very long time, why
will the GOP not speak.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Up about this?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
This is the cultural issue, and I want you to
understand something, No matter what your color is, what they're
doing now is creating a dangerous situation because historically there
are a million examples of this where you find a
group of people in a society and you start othering them,
You start acting like they're there's the bad guy. There,
they're the outcast. There they're bad, they're bad, they're evil,
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they're bad, they're bad, they're bad. What you're doing is
you're conditioning the population to do something terrible to those people.
And if you think that it's insane, then I would
suggest you read a history book, because the entire history
of the world is terrible things eventually happening to those people.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
And it concerns me how bold they all are. Now,
how bold they all are. We were going to take
a minute. We're up against the CLOBs.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
We're gonna take a minute and talk about the Boston
mayor sent out a freaking invitation to a Christmas party.
Oh sorry, I forgot. I'm not allowed to say that
anymore in this country.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
A holiday party, a freaking holiday party.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
And it was just for no whites allowed, it was
for electeds of color. Just came right out and said
it and didn't resign in disgrace. No, no, no, no, no,
just just put it out all out there.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
This is everywhere in this country and it makes me sick. Now,
someone had better start speaking up for it. But I
wouldn't hold out for that.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Kevin McCarthy just resigned or announced he was getting ready
to retire from Congress, and his main brag was how
many women and minorities he got elected first, And he
wasn't gonna speak for white people anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Horrible. All right, let's do it. Light in the moon
sound good.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
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Speaker 1 (43:46):
Go get one, we'll be back. All right.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
It is Christmas time, and let's always remember the reason
for the season. Right, the reason for the season is
giving people the gift of a.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
First TV subscription. Just kidding. The reason for the season
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Speaker 2 (44:14):
But you can give people a subscription to the first TV,
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Speaker 1 (44:33):
Now it is.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Christmas time and we roll this one out every year.
That old Rudolph movie is one of the great Christmas classics.
And let us always remember that Donner had his house
in order.
Speaker 11 (44:49):
Now, you can bet old Donner it felt pretty bad
about the way he had treated Rudolph, and he knew
that the only thing to do was to go out
and look for his little buck. This is Donner wanted
to go along, naturally, but Donner said, no, this is
man's work.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
I have a merry Christmas.
Tucker Carlson joins us tonight. That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Julie Kelly joins us with good news. We're gonna have
a blast tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
But I'm right.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You know what's awesome watching traditional media watching their power evaporate.
And look, you watched the first here, you can watch
the first on direct TV.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We have an app. You could watch it on Rumble.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Alternative media sources are rising and rising fast, and that
is a great thing. And as soon as I found
out Tucker was starting his own network, it put a
big fat smile on my face.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Here he is talking about it.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
They told you the guys torching Wendy's in twenty twenty
were mostly peaceful. They said that mask worked. They told
you the fax was safe. They've tried to convince you
that Russia blew up his own Typeline or Bread Media
lied too much and it killed them.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
We're driving to see join us on.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Believe me when I wait, I should be doing cutting.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But like fantastic, Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That does my heart well to see that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
TCN go sign up for Tucker's new network.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Join Team Tucker at Tuckercarlson dot com. And Tucker joins
us now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, Tucker, So you know, I have this TV show
and I have a radio show called The Jesse Kelly Show.
But you started an entire network. Was this just the
Tommy Topperty?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Is that why you did it?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's just untrammeled egomania. I love to say my own name.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I hate the same. I hate to say my.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Own name, and I'm fifty four and I can barely
still to this day, barely pronounce my own name because
there are too many seas in it. But I mean,
we had all kinds of ideas for a name, but
they were all taken.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So my name's weird enough, we went with that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, in the In the end, I appreciate you keeping
it simple and honestly, it is a great thing to
watch the power of traditional media go down and have
other sources rise. The fact that they hate it so
much means it's a really, really good thing because they
are the most evil, despicable people out there.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I totally agree with that, and it's nice to see
a little bit of justice. I mean, their destruction is
in the win column. And you watch for the past
five or six years as people get away with these
almost unbelievable crimes, while over one thousand decent people, most
of them more in middle class old people, are put
in jail for exercising their constitutional rights to protest on
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January sixth, And you think, where's the justice? Is anyone
ever going to get what they deserve for the crimes
they've committed?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And I think.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And I think most people believe that legacy media have
committed actual crimes against the country and made the country
weaker and are actively trying to destroy it. And yet
there's still sort of cruising along on the residual prestige
of the previous fifty years. And so it's nice to
look at the numbers and realize, wait, NBC News won't
exist in ten years, maybe not even five. You know,
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these places are all collapsing. How great is that? How
deserved is that they're liars? There's no reason they should
be getting rich doing that. So yeah, I'm really happy
about it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Actually, Tucker, do you find it weird because I do
that they are they look at numbers. Right, It's all
a business, right, this is a business. The first is
a business. The talker calls a network, and it is
a business. It's a four. It's not a charity. They're
looking at numbers. They're looking at their numbers go down,
they're looking at their viewership go down, and nobody now
the CEO is not the host, nobody is even suggesting.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
A change of course.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's like the one thing they can do to save themselves,
they refuse to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I think it's baffling.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And they're all becoming more alike. That's the amazing thing.
I mean, if something's not working, if I look over
at my neighbor and he's doing something counterproductive, I think
to myself, I probably shouldn't do that because that's.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The result of it.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And yet all the news, every news organization is becoming
more like every other news organization, and it's not working
for any of them. So you're running like what is this?
And it's a couple. I mean, it's delusion, it's a religion.
But it's also like a lack of self awareness. They
don't talk to anybody but one another, and so they
blame their failure on irrelevant factors, like they're like, well,
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you know, it's just like viewer habits have changed. Well,
viewer habits have changed because you're a liar and you
have no more credibility and no one would watch you,
because what's the point of listening to things that aren't true?
But that never occurs to them. It's and I've worked at,
you know, every one of those places full time, and
so I think I've got a pretty good perspective on this.
These are people who are, you know, high achievers on
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the SAT I think they have high IQs, most of them.
But they're so unwise it's almost unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Where do you think they get the disdain for normal people?
Like you brought up the January six ers, and I
love that you talk about them. We've been talking about
them for three years now. It's just it's awful. But yeah,
you could really sense it from these people if you
read their social media posts, you see their broadcasts, not
even Republicans, Democrats, just normal people. They really do look
on them. Was such distate. They tell everybody now that
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the economy is doing well. You see it all the
time New York Times media. The economy's great. I don't
know why people are complaining. Check the numbers. People are
paying six bucks for a pound of burger in the
grocery store, and these people lecture them about how well
they're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Of course well It's a really simple principle that's a
feature of human nature, and that's what you're watching. It's
that you hate the people you wrong. You think you
feel empathy for the people you wrong or guilt over
wronging them, But it's just totally true. The kinder you
are to somebody, the more you like that person. One
of the reasons you love your kids, you're wired to
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be nice to them, and so the nice you are,
the more you cherish them. But if you do someone
a bad turn, if you're unfair to someone, if you're
cruel to someone, if you screw someone in a business deal,
you wind up hating that person. As grotesque as that is,
that's just true. And legacy media have really hurt middle
class America. And the more they hurt middle class America,
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and in really measurable ways by ignoring their deaths, life
expectancy declines, mostly because of the opioid crisis, but also
because of diabetes and just the general poverty that's descended
on the middle class, and the.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Media ignore that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
In fact, they celebrate it and get into this, you know,
we hate white people, we hope white people die. And
the more they say stuff like that, the more you know,
the anti white racism, the total disregard for ordinary people.
The more they hate those people, It's super interesting, even
though those people have never done anything to them ever.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Of course, Tucker, speaking of anti white I ordered a
couple pieces for the studio last that and on one
of them I got Alfredo sauce instead of Pizza sauce,
and my entire staff here at the studio complained and
made fun of me.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Jesse's so stupid. Yeah, but yet that was the first
pizza gone, Tucker, is this.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Something that people Why can't people just admit when they're wrong?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's a really fair question, though I'm not really qualified
to answer it, because the idea of an Alfredo pizza
is so repugnant to me that I can't consider this
question fairly. Like I've never seen an Alfredo pizza, but
if I did, I would look away. It's almost like
those pictures you get on the dark Web of like
war atrocities.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It hurts you to look at them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So that's how I feel about Alfredo pizza.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's fine. You can be wrong. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You got your own network, You can say whatever you want.
I'm not here to judge anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay, we have no pizza advertisers.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, if you're not getting one now, Tucker, hey, is
Joe Biden gonna make it next year? I just can't
see the system. And it's not about you know, him
being old and pooping his pants in front of the
Pope and all the other things he does. I just
can't see the system risking their power by allowing an
unpopular man to run again. I understand everything's in place
for him to run again, and that's the likely scenario
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if you had to bet your mortgage on it. There's
no way they're gonna let him do it. It's either
gonna be Dome or it's gonna be New, So it's
gonna be somebody.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I mean, I think your instincts on this stuff in
general are always spot on, and I couldn't agree with
you more on that. I mean, there's no cults of
Joe Biden. There's no affection for Joe Biden Biden legacy.
His family's embarrassing and totally dysfunctional. His wife is transparently
loathsome obviously, his kids are a mess. It's not Camelot people,
(08:42):
you know what I mean. It's the only value in
Joe Biden is transactional. Can you beat Donald Trump and
hold power.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
For the rest of us?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And the second he can't do that. Second the polls
show he can't do that, and they show that, I mean,
Trump is winning by a pretty good margin in the
matchups right now. Then what's the point of Joe Biden?
Plus he's embarrassing. It is embarrassing. I mean, you've got
to think some of these people want to live in
the country after twenty twenty four and having a weak
president is itself, even if he had great policies. But
(09:12):
just the fact that the whole world knows the purportedly
most powerful country on the planet is being led by
a dementia patient.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's bad.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's bad for everybody right there.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So I don't see.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Any chance that they keep him, and I don't know
why they would. And I think DNC rules allow them
to swap out the nominee at the convention, and I
would think I would think Gavin Newsom, who's the most
evil of them all, you know, the most soulless, the
most happy to lie right to your face while smiling.
That guy seems like a natural leader for the Democratic Party,
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the Party of lies.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
How do they remove dome?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And then this is a very very ambitious woman, as
we can tell by how she got her start in politics.
She's not just going to step aside for Gavin Newsom
or anybody. Is maybe the most soulless, rudderless human being
I think I've ever seen in politics. This is not
an ounce of genuine inside of her. She's gonna try
for that top office. Lord knows, she'll do whatever she
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has to do for that top office.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So how do you get her out?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's such a great question. And I assume this is
taking up approximately eighty percent of the brain power of
the Democratic brain trust right now.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It won't be easy. I mean, you often hear you know,
black women are the core of the Democratic vote. Well,
she's not an African American woman. You know, her dad
was from the Caribbean, he was a college professor. Her
mother's from India. She's a college dresser. She's nothing in common.
I mean, the whole thing is insane, but apparently that's
a factor. But the real factor is her. I mean,
she's inadequate as a person. She knows that she's brittle
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and insecure. As a result of it, that's obvious when
you watch her. It's also clear that politics is all
she has. She doesn't have children, she doesn't have a
real marriage, Like it's not like she can go back
to the farm and spend time with her grandkids. She
literally never had children. So why would she give this up?
And from her perspective, because she's grown up in a
(11:04):
world where unearned self esteem is the currency for people
in her position. Oh, you're oppressed, You're wonderful. I mean,
she kind of can't accept this. And by the way,
what are they going to give her? I mean seriously,
in exchange for a real chance of being president, what
could you give someone? So I don't know what they're
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going to do. I think it's the toughest problem they face.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Tucker.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
This isn't the first time you and I have been
on the air together, but it is the first time
I have interviewed you. And my staff dug up some
of my highlights from when you were interviewing me, and
I'm going to play this for you, and I want
to know which one was your favorite.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Here it was.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We don't need a military that's woman friendly, We don't
need a military that's gay friendly. With all due respect
to the Air Force. We need a military that's flat
out hostile. We need a military full of type A
men who want to sit on a throne of Chinese skull.
And soon you're Chelsea Handler. Soon it's Valentine's Day and
your womb resembles a dried up tumbleweed blowing down an
(12:07):
old western town, and your Valentine's Day date for the
tenth year in a row is a ten year old
copy of Magic Mike and a half full bottle of Xenax,
and you're trying to pretend, Mike, you're happy. Everybody watching
you right now has worked for or worked with somebody
who just has ambition.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Just dripping off of their pores. And that's Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Those types of people will do anything to get ahead.
They treat their bosses like crap, They treat their employees
like crap. That's why she knifed Joe Biden in the
debate with all that race nonsense.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
There was no need to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's the same reason she cackles like a dead hyena
every time she's asked an uncomfortable question.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's the same reason she started out.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Her political career as Willie Brown's Brought Worst Bun Kamala
Harris will do anything to get ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
There's so many shoes from but Willie Brown's Broughtworst Bun
has got to be your the top but personal favorite.
And I remember when you said it because it was
so dry and subtle. You were so expressionless and you
said comma with apologies to the Air Force, Comma.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
People don't.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
People don't usually attempt that on television because it's just
too subtle, and so, you know, TV people always go
for the obvious joke. It takes balls to go for
the one that you know ninety percent of the audience
will miss. But it's so worth it because the ten
percent who get it, and like, wait, what did you say?
Those people will appreciate it so much that you are
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making their day and you made mine with that.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh jeez, to be a force. Oh that was so good.
That was a fun night. I'll never forget.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
The Chinese state run media Giant came after us both
after that. Gosh, that was so freaking hilarious.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
All right, what's it? Tuckercarlson dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I know I can't get an Alfredo pizza, so what
can I get at Tucker Carlson dot com.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Oh, a whole cornacopia of me. You're gonna look, what
you're getting is a replacement for what's going away, which
is NBCCBS, ABC, CNN all the rest. Look, someone needs
to cover the news, and so we are, and we're
gonna do it with true honesty, like true honesty, including
(14:18):
the acknowledgment of mistake. If we screwed up, we're gonna
say so immediately without hedging. I mean, that's support. You know,
if you want people to trust you, you have to
admit when you're wrong. And that's always been my policy
and it will continue to be. But yeah, documentaries, interviews,
lots of it, and a bunch of other features and
(14:38):
stuff that we think for amusing and then you know,
in the coming.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Year, a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But yeah, we're building a network and it's pretty cheap
and we think it's absolutely necessary. Look, I mean, if
I'm gonna be totally honest with you, the next twelve
months are going to be you know, I think very
volatile and potentially extremely volatile, and I hope that's not
the case, but I think it's entirely possible, in fact,
maybe even likely.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So You've got.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Tens of millions of young men from foreign countries whose
identities we know nothing about, and Democrats in the Congress
are trying to push them into the military. So people
show up in your country from Africa or Latin America,
you have no idea who they are, with the criminal record,
and then you hand them automatic weapons. What is that about?
(15:23):
I mean, honestly, what is that about. Why would our
leaders want to assemble an army of foreigners who know
nothing about this country, may not even speak the language,
and then turn them loose in our country. So, I mean,
you know, I don't know the answer to that. I
find that the single most ominous thing that's happening. But
I think we need to be prepared for some radical
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stuff to happen in the next twelve months. And I
want to stay in the air. And I'm just absolutely
worried about an advertiser model. I love advertisers, even the
Alfredo pizza guys, but I've been through a lot of
advertiser boycotts in thirty years in the media, and I
don't want that in the middle of an election. So
you need a different model. You need to figure out
a way to pay your staff with money that can't
(16:05):
be taken away from you, and that's from your viewers.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's a subscription model. So that's why we're doing that. Yeah, No,
I like it. It's smart. And Yeah. The military thing.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I caught Dick Derbin when he said that on the
House floor, pitching for these illegals in the military, and I.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Have the exact same thought, talker.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Look, the red blooded American mail from Nebraska may very
well refuse his orders to fire on you and your family.
But private first class deep deep from whatever country he is,
he has no loyalty to you, to.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Your country, to your constitution.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
He's going to be loyal to whoever's handing out citizenship
at the end.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
What troubles me about the debate now about the southern
border is it is one half of the immigration equation.
Presiding Officer, my colleague from the state of Illinois has
legislation which addresses one aspect to that Herbelle, and I
hope I describe it accurately. Says that if you're an
undocumented person in this country, and you can pay ask
(17:00):
the physical and the required test, background test the like,
you can serve in our military. And if you do it, honorably.
We will make you citizens of the United States.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
They're spying on I mean, military intelligence is spying on Americans.
That never happened. When you served in the military. The
military's mission was really clear, defend the country from foreigners.
And now the military is being used domestically a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And so if you're going to fill.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Its ranks with foreigners and arm them, I should be
really worried about that. Why is no one saying this?
This is a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
In my opinion, It's not as if at any point
in time in history communists have used the military against
their own citizens.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They would certainly never consider something like that. I would strongly.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Suggest everybody go to Tuckercarlson dot com and sign up.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
He's right, it's affordable. It's a place you can actually
get some real news. My man. I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I know you're going to be a smash success, as
you always are, and I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Thank you, Jesse, great to see it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Appreciate all right, Julie Kelly is going to join us next.
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
We'll be back. Good news we have Julie Kelly. No,
that's not the only good news.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Julie Kelly is bringing good news with her, and we've
been needing that badly. So I'm not going to give
out the dates and the news and everything else.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Let's let Julie do that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
She's the actual journalist here joining me now, Julie Kelly,
go subscribe to her substack declassified if you want to.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Stay up to date on all this stuff. Okay, Julie
Trump had.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
A couple trial dates March fourth and May twentieth, and
now he doesn't have those dates anymore.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
What happened, Well, technically, the March fourth trial date in Washington,
d C. For Jacksmith's indictment related to the events of
January sixth and Trump's alleged attempt to overturn the twenty
twenty election. That trial date is still there, but it
is almost impossible to see a situation where it stays.
(19:58):
The reason why is because Judge Tanya Chuckkin, the Obama
appointee who's overseeing this case in Washington DC, finally admitted
yesterday that because Donald Trump is appealing her order of
immunity denying him executive and presidential immunity from prosecution, that
appellate process automatically suspends all of the pre trial deadlines.
(20:22):
Now these are very important deadlines, Jesse. There were deadlines
actually this week for motions and information that had to
be filed by both sides. You're talking about things like
jury selection, which is supposed to start right after the
first of.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
The year, motions eliminae, which.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Is where both sides file motions talking about what evidence
they want to present to the jury, what witnesses they
want to call. So these are very important deadlines, and
it really was going to accelerate after the first of
the year. But now it's all on hold as this
appealed process either works this way through the Appellate Court
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in Washington or as Jack Smith has requested, to bypass
the appellate court and get an immediate ruling on presidential
immunity from the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Okay, well this sounds good, but how did we get
a win. We haven't had very many wins and certainly
no wins out of this court system. Is it Scotus
that did us a favor of what happened here?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Well, what really happened is that this is a crisis
of Judge Chutkin and Jack Smith's own making. Recall Jesse
that they did not indict Donald Trump until thirty months
after January sixth. Then Jack Smith went to Judge Chutkin
and asked for this accelerated trial schedule. Usually January sixth
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cases go anywhere from fourteen, eighteen, even two years between
indictment and trial. She gave a seven month window, completely
unrealistic that this was going to happen in March. Given
all of the litigation, especially related to claims of presidential immunity,
that has not been settled either in the Constitution or
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by the Supreme Court. So they created this crisis, they
rushed this trial, and now, as I said yesterday, karma
is catching up with them and there's just no way
this March forward trial date can stick.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
So then what happens, Jesse They move.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
It to April or May, the May twentieth trial date
for classified documents that will be out the window. So
they've got a lot of things imploating at the same time.
And as I call myself the Debbie Downer of democracy, yesterday,
actually I had a big smile on my face.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
So it's nice to bring good news once in a while.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Good.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No, that is good, it really is, truly. So I
understand a lot of this is up in the air.
Is this trial still going to happen before the election
or is that pretty much toast now too?
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Well, you know, if the Supreme Court does deny Trump's
presidential immunity claims, then of course they will proceed with
this trial. But how are they going to do that
in say, even April or May, when you're talking a
month or so before Trump, as we presume, will be
accepting the Republican nomination for president. So they're really running
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up against a lot of clock's judicial clocks and of
course the political clock, and it will be even more
And we saw this with Jacksmith's motion this week trying
to bypass the Appellate Court. We now see that this
is a rush to get a conviction, not just before
election day, but before Trump does accept the nomination. If
that's the case. So he tipped his hand this week.
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This is not about rule of law. No one is
above the law or et cetera, et cetera. As we've
been told, this is a rush for Jacksmith and Judge
Chudkin to get a conviction and possibly get him behind bars.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
But what happened was the Supreme.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Court not just this week related to presidential immunity, but
also taking up the fifteen twelve C. Two count, which
represents half of Jack Smith's or account criminal indictment. If
the Supreme Court determines the DOJ has abused that statute,
which it has, then that severely jeopardizes half of Jack
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Smith's indictment.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
So he's got a lot. The ball is in his court.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
What does he do now, does he voluntarily ask to
move the trial date? Will he drop those two counts
that are now before the Supreme Court? In issue is
supersite superseding indictment, like we've talked about before. So we're
all sort of sitting here waiting to see what Jack
Smith's next move is. But he's got a lot of
unappealing options if you're him anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, Julie.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now more importantly to me personally is the January six ers.
I know they matter to you, and I love that.
We've talked about this many many times. These are normal
people and no one no one has a fan that,
none of these people have a fan club, right, but
real people are rotting in prison. Does any of this
maybe help them?
Speaker 8 (25:04):
It absolutely does, and not I will tell you Jesse.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
When the Supreme Court accepted this petition finally, this was
a day a lot of January sixth defendants have been
waiting for more than three hundred and twenty seven defendants
have been charged with this in addition to Donald Trump.
So the reaction that I was getting yesterday was sort
of a mix of people texting me saying that they
were crying about the news. They were finally so relieved
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that maybe a court would step in and do the
right thing here. I also had other people texting that
they were just outraged and infuriated. You know, where do
they get their lives back? They are now convicted felons,
They've lost the right to vote, They've lost their firearms.
A lot of people lost their businesses, have been bankrupted.
Some people have lost their marriages. We know of one
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Matthew Perna, who, after he found out that DOJ was
going to ask for years in prison after he pleaded
guilty to obstruction, hanged himself in his garage in twenty
twenty two. Where does the Perna family go to get
Matthew back? I mean, this is real human wreckage that
has been left in the wake of DOJ's intentional weaponization,
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bastardization of this statue that has nothing to do with
interrupting a meeting of Congress. So I feel very hopeful
that the Supreme Court will do the right thing and
will give not just DOJ, but fifteen to strict court
judges the spanking that they deserve severe admonishment for intentionally
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misapplying this law and destroying the lives of hundreds of people.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
In their families in the process.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Julie, you sound pretty confident about the Supreme Court, and
that helps my confidence level because I'll tell you, maybe
I'm just a born cynic. I don't trust the Supreme
Court as far as I can throw Elena Kagan.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
We do know that at least four justices agreed to
grant cert in this case, so they do have to
have four justices who accept to take the review.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
So that's a good sign.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
But look, most legal analysts will agree, even some on
the left, that there's no way the statute should have
been used this way. And the appellate ruling that the
Court will now review was what's called a splintered ruling.
A three judge panel essentially rendered three different decisions about
whether this statute was being correctly applied. So the Supreme
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Court really has no other decision but to look at
that appellate ruling, look at the language and the intention
of the language. Was what was happening on January sixth
really an official proceeding the purpose of that law was
related to criminal investigations or congressional investigations, not a ceremonial function.
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And did these people corruptly interfere in that proceeding. That's
an other part of this statute. So these are all
the sort of dicey issues that the Supreme Court is
going to have to flesh out if they don't overturn
this Jesse.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
What you have now, is it a.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Witness tampering or evidence tampering statue that now will be
codified and used to punish political dissent, especially in Washington DC.
I doubt that the Supreme Court that's the pathway that
they want to take.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Fingers crossed, Julie, if you are the best, if I'll
talk to you beforehand. You have a merry Christmas. That's
freaking awesome. How about that good news? Chip Roy's going
to join us next and yeah, some not so good news. Hey,
what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Life?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Is it all sunshine and rainbows? Before we talk to Chip,
I have extra good news tonight. You're not stuck in
your time share anymore. That time share you've been having
to pay the annual fees for you'd never even go.
You want out, but they tell you what, Sorry, you
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They can't do it unless you call him, though.
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we'll be back. The NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act,
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just passed the House. It pass the Senate, and it
absolutely sucks. And somebody, my friendship Roy is going to
join us now. He voted against it, of course he would. Congressman,
all right, thank you for voting once again the right way.
What the heck is wrong with the rest of this
crappy party. Why are we authorizing a very very evil
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federal government to spy on us illegally?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yale Jesse Bersutal, good to be on you know, Merry
Christmas from Congress to you, to you and everybody out there.
We just passed a massive spying operation on the back
of the men and women in uniform, and you know,
thank you for your service.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Thanks to the service of all the viewers out there
that watch your show.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
But I don't think any of you who signed up
and wore the uniform signed up to defend the country
ought that is, passing legislation to spy on American But
you and I both know there was rampant spying. There
was two hundred and seventy eight thousand incidents of spying
in which the FBI was abusing their powers. And all
we're being told now is, oh, don't worry about it,
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the MBI is fixing it.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Well, we could have passed a reform bill, but we
didn't do it.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
With all due respect to Speaker Johnson and too Republicans
in the House, we didn't get that done. So what
they did instead was they took the National Defense Authorization
at which was problematic in and of itself, by the way,
didn't do what it needed to do to reform all
the woke policy, and they layered FISA, the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act Authorization, on the back of it, which means
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we just punned not just till April, but actually all
the way till April.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
With the continuation of the procedures that have been used
to abuse the spying authority to target American We could
solve it.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
We didn't. That's on Republican and that's a problem.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And the other thing about this is we allowed the
deal to be cut with a watered down Defense bill
which maintains most of the woke policies. That's killing the
morale and the recruiting at the Department of Defense, which
I know you know better than most.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Congressman.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I know you get the same emails and same phone calls,
very similar ones that I get.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But I'll tell you my inbox was full, and I.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Showed up in the studio today of people saying things
like Jesse, why would I even keep voting for Republicans?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Why would I support Republicans? Why would I even bother?
I'll vote for nobody, I'll vote Democrat and just collapse
the whole stupid thing.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
This is a drum beat now that I hear all
the time, Chip and I know you do too.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, I do. I get it.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
And my response when I get the same question as this,
we are in fact moving the needle in the needle
in the right direction. I will tell you I have
colleagues of mine who are super pissed off at me
right now. And these are colleagues that two months ago
they are happy with because maybe I was working with
them on something, and then a month later they're mad,
and then they're happy. They don't like things to change here,
and they run out of fear. Okay, they run out
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of fear of the next deadline. They run out of
fear of oh my god, FIZES is gonna expire and the.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
World's gonna end.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
They do that because they're conditioned to. We're breaking that. Okay,
we just need to keep moving the needle so that
conservatives can keep shining a light on how broken this
place is, so that we can actually change the town.
I will be the first one to admit so far,
this Republican majority has not delivered. We have, however, stopped
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Democrats in Congress from moving the ball farther down the field.
We have kept the ball pretty much on our side
of the field for the most part, with respective policies.
But here we are now, we just broke that for
the first time. Really, we just said, fine, you're gonna
go ahead and you move this legislation that's going to
continue FIZA. So my answer is next year, go to
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the win in the primaries, force conservatives to win in
the primaries and races, so we can get more people
who are willing to say no and fight.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
The establishment in this town.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Because right now, increasing the debt ceiling, extending PISASA, funding
a defense or authorizing a defense that's woke, and passing
continuing resolutions and Nancy Felosi's spending bills. That's not getting
the job done. So we're gonna keep calling out Republicans.
I don't care how mad they get at me about it.
I'm going to shine the light on it so we
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can keep building the numbers. So here's the deal. We
had one hundred and eighteen no votes on this. That's
a really good number. We came up about twenty somethings
shy killing it. Democrats actually kind of left us strained it.
And here's why Democrats realized they were winning on this.
They got a good deal in the defense build haking.
Jeffardies is actually actually saying that publicly. We've got to
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stop giving wins to Democrats and start giving wins to
the American people.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, tell me we're getting somewhere on border security. I
know you're hot on this. And I'm glad you are.
I know you've been pressing this. Are we getting something,
Don't get me wrong, No offense to chi if I'm
not hopeful that you can do anything to make the
Biden administration secure the border that they want to open.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
But are we getting somewhere?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
We have two leverage points on the border. One is Ukraine,
which neither you or I truly want to send much
more money to Ukraine, if any, but we could leverage
it to get border security. The second would be the
Department of Homelands security funding sometime in late January. Those
are our only two leverage points to force an administration that
doesn't want to follow the law. So right now, what's
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happening is the Senate Senate Republicans are negotiating with the
White House trying to cut a deal to get border
security up some form with a Ukraine package.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
You know, and I know exactly how that will go.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
We will get big leaves, we will get some crumbs,
some you know, scraps from the table, a border security
in exchange for a big put of money for Ukraine.
Because the Lenski came here and everybody's running around saying,
oh my god, putin, We've.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Got to do it. Meanwhile, look at your screen, Look
at the video you playing.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
There are thousands of people pouring across the border, and
I've got Republicans on the floor coming up to me.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Going, well, shit, what can we do? We don't have
the Senate. How can we do anything? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
How about by sticking your middle finger up at the
White House to saying kiss my ass. We're not going
to give you a dollar for Ukraine until you actually
fully secure the border. So that's my message to my Johnson,
that's my message to Center Republicans. Do not blink HR two.
Secure the border or Zelensky and Ukraine can pound sand.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
That's what all the Ans are ought to be.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Speaking of the White House, they've had a rough twenty
four hours. Corin Diversity Hires asked yesterday about all this
Hunter Biden stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Here is how that went.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
The President was familiar with what Hunter was going to
say today. Hunter, and I've said this many times as
a private citizen, and so certainly I would have to
refer you to his representatives. I'm just not going to
get into private conversations because what you're asking me is
actually a private conversation.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Why doesn't Present Biden just pardon him?
Speaker 10 (36:40):
President.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
I've been very clear the President's not going to partner.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Of course, he's going to pardon his son.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But okay, all right, Chip, I'm not hopeful.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
We're going to get a Joe Biden impeachment.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We don't have the majority for that, and half these
Republicans are low t weenies anyway. But an impeachment inquiry
is beneficial, right, exposing this dirt ball family.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah, so we need the increy in order to get
more tools to force them to respond to subpoenas there
currently with some actual authority. Trump claimed it as well
that if you don't have an impeachment inquiry, they are
not necessarily having to be as a response into some
of these things. So if we passed the inbreak, which
we did, we now have the tools to force their
hand on it a little bit. But let me be
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very clear, Hunter Biden, yesterday, I don't know if you
noticed this, Jesse, when he went to the microphone, he
said something very important. He said to his father, Joe Biden,
the President of the United States, had not been involved financially.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
With his business dealing.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Now, first of all, we don't know if that's true
or not, but let's take him at his word. Why
did he choose that wording. I'll tell you why he
chose that wording, because everyone with eyes knows for sure
that Hunter Biden was selling access, selling the Biden brand,
selling his dads, sitting there in meetings which we now
have witnesses who testified that he was there well knowing
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what was going on, that millions of dollars were flowing
in the Hunter Biden and the Biden family, and that
that would therefore benefit the entire Biden family. And so
whether money flowed directly to Joe Biden or not is
somewhat irrevolv it because the president's been lying about what's
been going on and then obstructing justice to the Department
of Justice by failing to allow witnesses to testify, limiting
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what they can do, and trying to jam down our
access to the tax records from twenty fourteen and fifteen,
where we know Joe Biden may well have had some involvement.
This is purposeful. We have every right to go look
into this. I'm not one of these guys that wants
to do it for politics. Oh, we got to do it.
I think we need to do it because truth needs
to be followed wherever it may lead.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
We believe this corruption.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
At the highest level in the White House in terms
of four and dollars flowing to the Biden family for
the enrichment of his family, and he knew it, and
we ought to be able to pursue the truth.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
See that's the difference between you and me. Chip.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You're a good person. You want to do it because
it's the right thing to do. I want to do
it just to smear these people and drag them through
the mud. Congressman, you have a merry Christmas to you
and yours. Thank you for doing what you do. All right,
let's talk about something. Speaking of the right thing to do.
It's the right thing to do to take care of
your dog. It's the right thing to do to give
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your dog some rough greens. You see your dog, he
doesn't get nutrition from his dog food.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I know we think we are giving them nutrition.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You walk in these dog food stores and all this
is a special blend. All let's get them the salmon
blended at it's all dead. Why do you think it's
all brown? Why does it all look the same? They
kill everything in dog food at the factory. You give
your dog empty calories with every dog food meal. Pour
rough Greens on the food, all natural nutritional supplement your
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dog will go crazy for. And it has everything your
dog needs, vitamins and minerals and probiotics. My dog doesn't
have digestive problems anymore because of rough Greens.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You'll see a difference in your dog's energy. Is coat?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I mean, don't you have a difference in your life
when you get real nutrition versus no roughgreens? Dot com
slash Jesse for a free jumpstart trial bag, or you
can call them eight three three three three my dog,
all right.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
We'll be back.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
You know what's wild to me about the GOP. I mean,
there's a lot of lame, pathetic things about the GOP,
but one of the things that drives me insane is
their refusal to speak up about the open anti white
racism that is everywhere in this society now. And the
anti white racism it's not just coming from some freak
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on a street corner.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Now, from the highest levels of power, these people will
dog on white people. They'll openly promote racism against white people.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Always. It's always paid. It is anti racism or something
like that. White people go ahead and try to apply
for a college scholarship somewhere, businesses will openly announce whites
need not apply. Sorry, only diversity hires here. It's everywhere
you see, It's everywhere in Hollywood. Did you see this
new Netflix show.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
I'm asking for you to remember that if the world
falls apart, trust should not be dulled out easily to anyone,
especially white people. Even Mom would agree.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
With me on that.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I know you're going to find this shocking.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
But the producers of that little film, or Barack and
Michelle Obama, who have both had a real hate on
for white people for a very very long time, why
will the GOP not speak.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Up about this?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
This is the cultural issue, and I want you to
understand something, No matter what your color is, what they're
doing now is creating a dangerous situation because historically there
are a million examples of this where you find a
group of people in a society and you start othering them,
You start acting like they're there's the bad guy. There,
they're the outcast. There they're bad, they're bad, they're evil,
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they're bad, they're bad, they're bad. What you're doing is
you're conditioning the population to do something terrible to those people.
And if you think that it's insane, then I would
suggest you read a history book, because the entire history
of the world is terrible things eventually happening to those people.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
And it concerns me how bold they all are. Now,
how bold they all are. We were going to take
a minute. We're up against the CLOBs.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
We're gonna take a minute and talk about the Boston
mayor sent out a freaking invitation to a Christmas party.
Oh sorry, I forgot. I'm not allowed to say that
anymore in this country.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
A holiday party, a freaking holiday party.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
And it was just for no whites allowed, it was
for electeds of color. Just came right out and said
it and didn't resign in disgrace. No, no, no, no, no,
just just put it out all out there.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
This is everywhere in this country and it makes me sick. Now,
someone had better start speaking up for it. But I
wouldn't hold out for that.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Kevin McCarthy just resigned or announced he was getting ready
to retire from Congress, and his main brag was how
many women and minorities he got elected first, And he
wasn't gonna speak for white people anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Horrible. All right, let's do it. Light in the moon
sound good.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Also, did you know that you can get a podcasted
version of the show. You get a podcasted version of
the President's Daily Breath, Daily Brief Politics by Faith from
Mike Slater. You can go there's a podcast feed, the
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your smart device. It's all right there, the first TV
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Speaker 1 (43:46):
Go get one, we'll be back. All right.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
It is Christmas time, and let's always remember the reason
for the season. Right, the reason for the season is
giving people the gift of a.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
First TV subscription. Just kidding. The reason for the season
is the birth of Jesus. I know that.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
But you can give people a subscription to the first TV,
the first TV dot com Slash support. Then they have
access or you have access to all of our specials,
all the history specials we've done, with more to come
next year. So there perfect Christmas gift, the gift of me.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Now it is.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Christmas time and we roll this one out every year.
That old Rudolph movie is one of the great Christmas classics.
And let us always remember that Donner had his house
in order.
Speaker 11 (44:49):
Now, you can bet old Donner it felt pretty bad
about the way he had treated Rudolph, and he knew
that the only thing to do was to go out
and look for his little buck. This is Donner wanted
to go along, naturally, but Donner said, no, this is
man's work.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
I have a merry Christmas.
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