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October 18, 2025 44 mins

There are always varying degrees of threats to the American homeland, but there are multiple in particular that have the chance to escalate really fast. Whether it's Mexican cartels or groups like ANTIFA, the battle is heating up. What does that mean for the country? Jesse Kelly attempts to navigate the situation.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, let's talk about what's happening. It really we're going
to talk about Ice, but this is really about the
blue areas of the country and how they may just
be lost. That we have to acknowledge something before we
go into this, before we go into the bounties and
the cartels, Los Angeles, things like that, that there are
places in America that are now foreign countries. Maybe we

(00:27):
can bring them back into America, maybe we can't. But
if you are in a completely blue area, it's a
foreign country. Now. It's foreign, it's communists, it's hostile to
everything good, it celebrates everything bad. It's not the United
States of America anymore. And illegals even know that. Why
do you think they all flock there? Which, of course
brings us to the Trump administration. It brings us to Ice.

(00:49):
You know, people want to know, why is Donald Trump
going into Chicago, Why is he going into New York,
Houston where I live? Why is he going into Los Angeles?
He's going into these big urban lou hell holes because
that's where the worst of the worst of the illegals,
that's where they congregate, and that's where you're going to
get the most of them. Because these are foreign countries

(01:12):
who tell illegals, come on in, You're welcome here. You
won't get in trouble, shoot will pay you to be here.
So if you have promised the American people that you're
going to try to deport all these savages we've brought
into the country, you have to go to where they are,
and they're in Los Angeles. And here's here's how that's going.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Lake County has declared a state of emergency over the
immigration raids. The Board of Supervisors voted today. Board members
say the raids are preventing people from going to work
and forcing some businesses to close. The emergency allows the
board to look at enacting an eviction moratorium and other
protections for people impacted by the raids. And this news
just coming into our newsroom will of course continue to follow.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
It just before we talk about anything else. Just wrap
your mind around that Ice is going in there, arresting
people here illegally and deporting them. That's it. And in
every blue area in the United States of America, the
Democrat politicians in that area are doing everything they can

(02:18):
to stop them. The street animals, as you can see
right there on the screen, are doing everything they can
to stop them. That's a hostile foreign country. And speaking
of hostile foreign countries, according to Christinome, Mexican drug cartels
are now placing bounties on the heads of ICE agents.

(02:40):
You get so much if you kill one, you get
so much if you take one alive. And they're working
with these street animal groups like Antifa to get it done.
America's radical left, they've joined forces with the drug cartels
to kill ICE agents. That's quite a lot to take in.

(03:04):
And now let's talk about the future. All these brave
ICE agents and people signing up for RICE because the
Trump administration is recruiting more. They need way more. If
you want to get to the deportation numbers, you want
what's going to happen to you if you're an ICE agent.
And let's say twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty two, Governor

(03:25):
Pritzker gets elected president, the tables will turn someday.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
These people should recognize that maybe they're not going to
get prosecuted today, although we're looking at doing that, but
they may get prosecuted after the Trump administration for the
things that they did because the statute limitations won't.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Have run wrap your mind around where we are as
a country. I know that's Look, it's a lot to
take in, but when you really sit back and think
about it, we have America's Democrat politicians, every one of them,
working with America's street communists, working with the Mexican drug

(04:04):
cartels to protect rapists and murderers from being deported, while
also putting bounties on the heads of those ICE agents,
while also promising future prosecutions for ICE agents who arrest
in deport illegals. Now, let me say again, we have
places in the United States of America that are no

(04:26):
longer the United States of America. And this is where
I get to the ugly part because I hate saying this.
I'd like to bring a solution. If you're going to
bring a problem, I don't know what we do about that.
I don't know how. I don't even know if there's
a historical precedent for having a country and then having

(04:46):
a bunch of hostile city states essentially inside of the
country that actively work against the country. I'm not sure
how to work that out. But I know, Look, even
if we get JD. Vans for eight years or whoever,
even if we hold the White house hold, the household
the Senate. That's not gonna save Chicago, La New York.

(05:12):
I don't know where we go from here. It's ugly.
I am a chip freak. I know that there are
people there are pretzel people or people who like sweets.
You know, you want to sit around and eat candy.
Ever since I was a kid, all I wanted were chips.
And now I'm forty four and I'm still addicted to chips.
It's very clear that I'm going to eat chips to
the day I die. The problem is all these chips

(05:34):
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(05:55):
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(06:27):
I know there's a lot of good, lot of bad,
but let's focus on something that is wonderful. We are
officially at a net negative for immigration in this country
for the first time in a long time. And I
understand we've got about another fifty million. I mean, who
knows how many to get out. But right now the
border is closed, the border is secured, and we're deporting
people and we are slowly getting our country back and

(06:50):
it's a good thing. Joining me now, Emmen Blair, Senior
Fellow at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is a
wonderful organization by the way, if you're not familiar. Also
former Border Patrol Army. Amen, I'm happy, man.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah, this is this is all good news. All the
numbers are pointing in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Amen. Can you explain how it happened so fast? How
was it so fast to go from a border that's
wide open to one that is sealed up tight?

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Sure, it's really at the end of the day, following
the rule of law. That's all we had to do,
the law of expelling those that are here illegally or
actually pushing back those that are trying to come into
our country or make incursions between the ports of entry
and just simply not letting them in. Really, that's, at
the end of the day, what really happened at our

(07:42):
southern border. And so when you look at that and
you look at that measurement of illegal or apprehensions that
our southern border, that's that's a good one, as well
as the fentnel seizures at our southern border. But something
that's kind of that maybe your public or your audience
needs to understand is unfortuate. Those are really one of
the only two metrics we're really looking at in terms

(08:05):
of whether the border is secure or not. I know
that you served in the Marine Corps for quite some time,
and if you were in a contingency operation overseas, how
would you measure whether that border that you were trying
to defend is secure? Now, Unfortunately, for US, because DHS
is the lead agency, we measure it by terms of apprehensions, turnbacks,

(08:28):
and godways, and that's what's codified in law, and so
it's immigration metrics. And then we also have drug seizure
metrics like fentanyl, but by all measures, unfortunately, the border
is still operationally controlled by the Mexican cartels. They just
have decided to move some of their smuggling organiz operations
outside of the Southern border area of operations.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Okay, Amen, that is news to a lot of people.
Please expand on that. If they're not crossing the border,
where are they crossing? Sure?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
A great question. So, and I'm not talking specifically about
illegal aliens, but a lot of the illegal aliens that
are coming across now are those that don't want to
get caught, so they're going to be in camouflage, just
like what Breitbart puts out or your friend Brandon Darby,
he puts out all the pictures of the illegal aliens

(09:22):
in camouflage or wearing carpet shoes. And they're bypassing Border
of Tralle agents and other law enforcement along the border.
And how they're doing that is they're utilizing surveillance and
reconnaissance assets through drones. The real Grand Valley sector where
I served recently had over forty thousand drone incursions. There's

(09:44):
so many drones in the air that sometimes we can't
even have air support inside the air. And so when
you have that ability to see the entire operational environment.
You can dictate to the smuggling organizations on the ground
exactly where to go, what area law enforcement is currently

(10:05):
not president and you can bypass us. You can go
on Twitter today and actually see smuggling organizations posting their
drone videos of guiding illegal aliens inside the country. So
also narcotics, all you have to do is look at
the price of cocaine right now, it's actually decreased. And

(10:25):
the reason being as the amount of cocaine inside the
United States is unprecedented, the cartels have just shifted. Since
we're only looking at fentanyl seizures, the cartels have completely
shifted their commodity and that is going to be meth
in cocaine. Imagine, like back in the day we used
to talk about like the Caribbean. We would go after

(10:46):
the Caribbean where really the smuggling trade of cocaine was
really prevalent in like Florida and on along the coast,
and then it shifted when we shifted our priorities to
that area, shifted to Mexico and then so now unfortunately
it's shifted back and that's why you're seeing President Trump
make those military attacks on three in the Aragua and

(11:10):
the gunboats or the drug boats in the Caribbean. And
that is because the operations by the cartels, whether from
Venezuela or Mexico, have shifted back in that region.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Eman, can you tell me, because it never comes up right,
Everyone just looks south. But we have a very very
large border north. Is it a problem or do we
at least have that one fairly locked down? A great question.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
In fact, I was just in Canada this week. I
was speaking with the First Nations Chief of Police or
of their peacekeepers. I was there with their Canadian law
enforcement as well as public officials as well as their
Fentanylan borders are I'm unfortunately here to tell you and
your audience that the cartels, like I said, they shift,
and they shifted to Canada as well as the Chinese triad.

(11:58):
And since we have not placed a lot of our
resources to include manpower, technology on our northern border, as
well as not really assisting the First Nations or the
Native American travel areas in terms of understanding what is
coming across and who's coming across, it is completely open
game for the Mexican cartels to traffic both north and south.

(12:22):
And that is also illegal aliens. Look before, when the
Mexican cartels in the first parts of the Biden administration,
they were flying illegal aliens as well as cartel members
from Mexico City to Quebec. And then they started creating
their own version of a pipeline or a silk road,

(12:47):
have you from that area into the United back into
the United States. So as it stands right now, that
is a major hub in the Canadian the provinces in Canada.
That's why they came down and reached out to us
at Texas PUBKL Foundation, and they're asking, look, under the
Biden administration, Texas, they came out on top. They figured
out a way to push the federal government and try

(13:09):
to secure its communities. Please come and help our communities
when our federal government is not willing to look at
the Mexican cartels, look at the CCP and their proxy
the Triads, and any other criminal organizations, please come and
help us. And so as it stands now, that's what
we're doing. We were in Canada this week. We're going
to be continually working with Canadian our Canadian partners up there,

(13:32):
whether that's the Mounties, the military, law enforcement services, as
well as the private industry actually secured the northern border.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
An A final question here, Donald Trump has said over
and over again, you know, declared war on the cartels,
eradicate the cartels. Do you get the impression we are
going to start doing kinetic things inside Mexico?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Great question. I sometimes I really wish the infantry soldier
in me and I know the marine and you really
wants to go out and just completely lay waste to
the Mexican cartels. We really do. But really, just like
what happened in the first Trump administration, President Trump instead
of designating the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations in twenty nineteen,

(14:18):
he backed off and instead created the US Mexico Canada Agreement,
that trade agreement for free trade. And so he backed
off going on after the cartels and then instead went
after Maduro and then the Venezuelan cartels, right the Cartel
of the Sons and then trafficking Gata coming out of Venezuela.
You can see that now a lot of the hits

(14:38):
that are taking place in the Caribbean that's not Mexican cartels,
though they are connected either to CGNG and Sinaloa. Those
are connected to Venezuela. And so what we're seeing is
we're seeing more of a foreign diplomacy or diplomatic efforts
against Mexico, whether that is decreasing the visas from their
elected officials, whether that is the threat of tariffs. But

(15:01):
at the end of the day, that's really not making
a mark on the Mexican cartels. They're in sixty five countries.
Like I said, they're shifting their operations in Canada, the
country of Poland just had to wipe out a massive
left lab sell right on the border of Poland and Germany.
So the cartels are just shifting, still operating their command

(15:22):
or headquarters inside of Mexico. So yes, we definitely do
need kinetic action against the cartels as well as all
the other ASYMMETRICA warfare ways and means to go after them,
whether that's foreign diplomacy or any other means. But do
I see that Unfortunately no, Because of that trade, we

(15:44):
are dependent on Mexico for a lot of things, but
especially food. Right now, Jesse, we can't even feed ourselves.
If we were to cut off all of our foreign
trade agreements and all of our imports, we could not
even feed ourselves. We are dependent on the Mexican cartels
since they control agriculture in Mexico to feed us, and

(16:07):
so until that dependency comes away from Mexico and the cartels,
it is going to be very difficult to come to
the table in terms of, hey, we need you to
link security and trade together. We need you to take
care of the cartels, when they're like, well you can't
even feed yourselves.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Amen, we'll talk again very soon, my friend. Thank you.
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(17:46):
there's about a thousand things going on in the news
we need to get to tonight, and we only have
an hour to get to it. So I wanted to
first focus right here at home. I wanted to talk
about what's happening right now with Letusia James and Pop simply,
John Brannan and others. Because there's a there's a dangerous
thing happening. I'm not quite sure how we fix it,

(18:09):
but I'll explain what it is in a moment. Letitia James,
as you're well aware, got indicted for mortgage fraud. I'll
explain a little more in a moment. Here she was
talking about it.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
This is nothing more than a continuation of the President's
desperate weaponization of our justice system. He is forcing federal
law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because I
did my job as a New York State Attorney general.
These charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements

(18:44):
make clear that his only goal is political retribution at
any cost.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Okay, we'll get to the charges themselves in a moment.
That just hang with me here. I have oftentimes compared
where we're at right now with America's communists America's Democrats
to the story of doctor Frankenstein and his Monster. If
you've never read the book, that's fine. I actually thought
it was kind of boring. But either way, if you've
never read the book or seen the movies, this guy,

(19:14):
by the way, the monster's name was not Franklinteon. The
doctor's name was Frankenstein. And he essentially thought that he
could create human life, patch together a bunch of body
parts and create human life, ends up catching a couple breaks.
This thing comes to life, and it's big and it's mean,

(19:34):
it's bad, and all of a sudden he has created
something that he doesn't have full control over anymore, and
something that's terrible. Well, here's what has happened. And this
has been ten years in the making, we have to understand,
and it's actually probably a little older than that if
you factory in Obama. But this is what has happened,
and this is where we're at in the United States

(19:56):
of America for ten years. We'll just stick with that
number for now, for ten years. The elite communists in
our society, that would be Democrat politicians, members of the media, professors,
these types. They have told the Democrat base over and
over and over and over again that Donald Trump is

(20:17):
the sum of all fears, that you know, a Nazi fascists,
that he's all of these things, that he's the end
of everything authoritarian. This is the over and over and
over again for ten years. Listen, human beings, all of us,
you and me and everyone else. We are all susceptible

(20:39):
to propaganda. We are all affected by what goes into
our eyes and what goes into our ears. It's human nature.
But the Democrat is more of a herd animal anyway,
less of an individual thinker. Somebody who wants to be
part of a herd. That person is one hundred times

(21:01):
as susceptible as you are to propaganda. So ten years,
Nazi hitler, Nazi hitler, Nazi hitler, over and over and
over and over and over and over and over again.
Ten years, here's what has happened. Now, does it matter
far extreme moderate. If you are an American Democrat, you

(21:24):
do believe that you are living somehow under some authoritarian regime.
That's Adolf Hitler. And by the way, don't argue with it.
Don't talk about how they're crazy. I know they're crazy.
I know it doesn't make sense, but that's genuinely what
they believe. As a result of that. Well, politicians, all

(21:44):
politicians forever, not just in our country, forever. People who
have to earn votes to get elected. They are subject
to the will of the people. They have to do
things the voters want or they lose power. If you're
an elite communist, Letitia James is a great example, but

(22:05):
we could use any of them. You have programmed your
herd animal base for ten years to believe that they
are living underneath Adolf Hitler and that anything everything is
acceptable in stopping Adolf Hitler. Now, Democrats want results. Democrats

(22:29):
demand results. That is in large part why Donald Trump's
four years out of power after he was president, why
there were so many of these ridiculous sham lawsuits and
arrests and mugshots. Because if you are a Democrat at
any level, now, any level, it doesn't matter if you're
in the city council or running to be a United

(22:51):
States senator or president. If you are a Democrat and
you want to get elected, you know you need Democrat
voters to vote for you. Right, of course, makes perfect sense.
Democrat voters are demanding you have an answer for the Nazi,
you have an answer for Donald Trump. Why did all
these das.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
Ags from Fanny Willis to Latitia James and did Why
were they all so hell bent on creating ridiculous charges
in order to arrest and imprison Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's what Democrat voters demand. You can go look at
every single poll out there. It shows the number one
issue for Democrat voters with their politicians right now. Number
one on every single poll is I want you to
fight Trump even harder. You're not doing enough. Get Trump,
Get Trump, Get Trump, Get Trump. Which brings us, of
course to Latitia James. Why did she run on what

(23:45):
she ran on? She ran on getting Trump, She campaigned
on it, gave speeches on it. I'll get Trump. Why
would she do that? That's what the voters demand, And
then when she got elected, she chose to deliver for
the people who put her in office. She even included
photo ops. Who remember that famous photo op of her

(24:06):
sitting in court, smiling and smug as Donald Trump was
getting raked over the cools in New York. She was
responding to the will of her monster. She was responding
to the will of the Democrat voter. And now now
that it's coming back on them, these communists are mortified.

Speaker 8 (24:29):
I mean, this is something that everyone in America, or
many people at least, if you're lucky enough to be
able to buy a house in America.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
You deal with this, right.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
The federal government doesn't go after all of these people
for doing this.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Okay, let's just clarify something here. That's just Cassie Hunt
Casey Hunt on how to say her name. She actually
interviewed me once a long time ago. She's just mortified
that communists would be held to account for anything. So
she's making a ridiculous lies about mortgage fraud. Maybe you're
unaware of how this works. As someone who has had
to move across the country multiple times, I am way

(25:08):
too experienced at this. Let me explain. When you buy
a home, a new home, they will ask you is
this your primary residence or is this something you're going
to be renting out to other people. Why do they
ask you that, Because if your home is going to
be your primary residence, you are going to get different

(25:30):
interest rates, different down payment requirements than if it is
some secondary home you are renting out. So if it's
your primary residence, you have to say. And it's not
as if it's a real head scratching question. Every mortgage
application I've ever filled out, and I've filled out many,
it couldn't be more clear. It couldn't be more black

(25:53):
and white. And since I've never owned a second home
and don't own a second home now, it was always
very very obvious I have to fill outry residence. It's
not a oh, whoops, my pen and fell. I know
it is a deliberate, deceptive act and I've never done
it in my life, and frankly, I've never even been
tempted to do so. And it's not something everyone does.

(26:16):
And the reason everyone doesn't do it is because it
is so black and white. It's so cut and dry.
Either you lied or you didn't. And contrary to what
you're hearing on MSNBC, it is a big deal.

Speaker 10 (26:29):
But look, this is a serious, as you said, bank
fraud carries a penalty of thirty years in prison. Not
that a person convicted on a first offense would get
that sentence, but it's an extremely serious use of the
Justice Department to prosecute someone for what looks like.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
A technical violation.

Speaker 10 (26:46):
And again, the ill gotten gains alleged here less than
nineteen thousand dollars under circumstances which we can all see
are highly, highly questionable.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's just nineteen thousand dollars. What's happening? Well, again, these
people behave like animals for ten years and now just
the very thought that this is coming back on them,
it's more than they can beare. That's why they're running
to the camera every day all day complaining about the

(27:19):
weaponization of the DOJ.

Speaker 11 (27:22):
I don't know if we can trust what's coming out
of the Department of Justice right now. And when you
have an administration and individuals who are manipulating the justice
system of America in that way, they best understand that
this is not only about something that affects the individuals

(27:43):
that they're targeting. This affects all of us who believe
that flawed.

Speaker 12 (27:50):
Though it may be that.

Speaker 11 (27:52):
A justice system is actually supposed to be blind in
the way that it does its work, not targeting people
because of who they are.

Speaker 13 (28:00):
Let me say first this week, this is a watershed
moment in American history. Not since Watergate, Chris, have we
seen a president weaponize the Justice Department to go after
his political rivals.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
They're not angry because the DOJ is going after Democrats
who commit crimes. They're angry because they were told that
Donald Trump had to be stopped at any cost, and
he was never stopped. They're not even angry about all
the malfeasans done by Titia James and Jack Smith and

(28:40):
Vanny Wilson's doesn't anger them at all. They're angry that
Hitler is still there and hasn't been stopped yet. And
what's more, this world of make believe they had created
in the minds of the Democrat voter, in the mind
of Frankenstein's monster, continues to be reinforced by the elite
communists who use language like this.

Speaker 12 (29:01):
It is just such a hallmark of tyrannical, autocratic dictatorship
societies that they use the Prosecutorial Department as a political weapon.
It is a disgrace and every American, I don't care
if you're a Democrat republican, liberal, conservative, moderate people should

(29:21):
be forcefully rising up against this, speaking out against it,
and making it clear how inimical this is to what
our democracy has been for so stood for for more
than two centuries.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I don't know where this goes, because right now there
appears to be no mechanism in place to take the
Democrat voter, not the politicians and media people to take
the Democrat voter. Bring them out of the world to bake, believe,
and turn down the temperature. Everything just keeps turning it up.

(30:00):
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Speaker 9 (31:17):
Yeah, thank you, mister President for having us here. And
you know, not to sound like a broken record, but
it needs to be said that antifa is real. To
be clear, political violence sustain. Political violence that we're seeing
in this country is not a both sides issue.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I can't believe Julio ros Sauce was allowed in the
White House. Can't believe how good he did joining me now,
my buddy, Julio ros Sauce, National correspondent with the Blaze,
United States Marine. Julio, You've come a long way from
standing on some yellow footprints getting screamed at my friend
to hanging with the big man.

Speaker 9 (31:52):
It was it was quite yeah, it was quite surprise.
I was literally coming back from Portland when I was
when I was invited, and you know, of course, of
course I accepted because this issue is something that I've
been aware of and it's seen firsthand for a long time, right,
And a lot of people just just really want to

(32:12):
not believe that this movement exists. And of course of
course it does, right. And so when you have the
opportunity to present your findings and present your experiences to
not just the president but also you know people who
are watching in the press pool, you're gonna say yes
to that one.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Julio, walk me through what the point of it was.
Was this just bringing in experts like people like you
who've been knee deep with these street animals for years?
But are they coming up with the plan? What do
you get? What did you get out of this?

Speaker 9 (32:44):
Well, so there was a couple of reasons. One, it
was just to lay out the facts of what all
these different people have experienced about about this group.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Right.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
And you know, when when when the president is there
participating that there's there's a reason for that, right, and
people are gonna tune in a little bit more than
it it's just some other member of his cabinet. I mean,
this is the president. This guy's a busy guy, and
so that that was just the first thing. It was
just to say that, yes, Antifa is real, it exists,
and we're looking at it. That that's what the administration

(33:13):
was was trying to say. And it was because you know,
the press school is there. It's to kind of force
the mainstream media to at least acknowledge that this is
a thing right now. Of course, I would say that
the mainstream coverage was to be expected, but it at
least puts in people's mind that that this is an

(33:33):
ongoing issue. They're using the anti ice, you know, Feaver
outrage to to fuel themselves to try to achieve their goals,
but it was also to reassure not just us, you know,
people who have experienced them, in some cases violently, but
also to the voters that yes, the administration is maintaining

(33:56):
its pledge to go after not just the individual people
that they happen to get at these riots, but also
it's support networks, which are very active right now. They've
been active for a number of years.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Julio, can you talk about the level of support you
think these people are getting. It's obvious to anyone who
pays attention. This is not organic stuff. So there's some
level of sophistication to it's certainly some lew of funding
and organization, but you have actually had to smell these people,
which has to be brutal. What do you get from

(34:30):
their level of sophistication.

Speaker 9 (34:32):
Well, that's why I wear a gas mask, not just
with tear guests. They do get support. I mean I
saw it in Chaz back in Seattle back in twenty twenty.
Most recently, outside the facility, the ice facility in Broadview, Illinois,
which is outside Chicago, someone dropped off a whole bunch
of large and small Mexican flags. I mean that costs money,

(34:57):
you know. So the support are in big and small ways. Uh,
you know in the in Portland, outside the ice facility
there they have a couple of tents with all these
different supplies that are dropped off. And then the kind
of the more I would say nefarious and more you know,
more expensive items are the the bail funds. I mean

(35:19):
that that's probably the biggest, one of the biggest ones
ways that they get support is just you know, because
obviously they're not going to be in jail for very
long or you know, they're going to rarely receive any
actual prison sentence, so if they do happen to get arrested,
they can be back out relatively quickly because they have
all these bail funds that they can be that they
can access, and some of them are international. And that's
why when President Trump was asking, well, are these guys

(35:43):
a foreign terrorist organization? Have we designated that? We said no,
And and it probably should because ANTIFA is just not
unique to the United States, but they're very active in Europe,
like Germany, France, in the UK. So that was kind
of another thing that kind of came out of that
is like, you know, because Secretary of Rubio walked in
to give them the news about Moss and and the
you know, the historic piece deal, but they also mixed

(36:05):
into that. President Trump you know, went to went to
Rubio and said, hey, we should probably take a look
at that as well, since that would fall under a
kind of his domain. So I would say that, you know,
it was very it was a very productive meeting, right
and and again it just when you're on the ground,
When you're on the ground and stuff, you kind of
forget that what you put out there is seen by
you know, a lot of people, and so it was

(36:26):
just kind of validating to know that, uh, you know,
it was just validating to see that the work, the
hard work that gets put into this, because there's a
lot that goes into these things in terms of time, energy, resources,
and personal safety. It is worth it because there are
people who are in a position to do something about
it beyond just recording it. Are are are taking note

(36:47):
of it and want to follow through on action.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah. That's got to feel good to see the fruits
of your labor. Okay, So two things for this question. One,
we heard Cash Betel talk about bracking down George Soros's
connections and things like that. To that, how many layers
do you think there are between the billionaires who stroked
the checks and the street animals who are pooping on

(37:12):
themselves out in front of the ice facility? And Two,
how many Mexican flags did you take?

Speaker 9 (37:18):
I did take one as of amno full disclosure. It
was offered to me, and I said, you know what, Yeah,
I'm gonna add I'm gonna add I take things, but
you know, I take rubber bullets and tear gas cancers
and everything just as of a meno. So yes, I
did take one, but I always carry the American flag.
That's always in my backpack when I'm at these things.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (37:36):
But so the other, the other, the more serious thing.
I would say that there's a few layers. It's not
it's not super complicated, right, because when you have things
like you know, Sorrows's Network or any other of these
like left wing billionaires, they give them to these these
these nonprofits, right, and then nonprofits then kind of disperse
it to the networks because or you know, to the

(37:56):
to the activists that are on the street, because it's local, right.
I mean, they're they're very they're good at organizing at
the local level. And so I wouldn't I wouldn't say,
I mean, it's it's not, it's not that complicated once
you start kind of peeling back those layers and say that,
you know, it's not probably fifty degrees removed, it's probably
only about two or three if you're if you're looking
at it through through that. But also I would say that,

(38:19):
you know, unfortunately, these people genuinely believe what they're what
they're espousing about about promoting this anarcho communism ideology that's
kind of wrapped in with with Antifa. It's not anti
fascists in the sense of like World War two, World
War two veterans. I mean that, I mean they would
call those guys fascists for for the beliefs that they held.

(38:43):
So that so it's just nonsense going on his face.
But because of how President Trump is actually carrying out
his promises to try to carry out mass deportations, that
alone gets people out of the streets. And that's why
I told the President, I said, this issue isn't necessarily
about just Antifa. We've seen seemingly the ordinary people ramming
ice vehicles, ramming border patrol, attacking border patrol and ice

(39:05):
while they're out there. It's not people dressed up in
black block It's like just these people who have been
extremely radicalized within this past year, you know, because the
meantrem media is so responsible with they're reporting about all this,
so that that's kind of the bigger problem, because you
don't need to be part of Antifa to just throw
yourself in there into the mix to try to, you know,

(39:26):
save these people from being kidnapped. And that's why I
think it's going to be a very We're gonna be
in it for a while, because these things might calm
down a little bit in the country once it starts
getting colder for this fall and winter. But I guarantee
it's just to be just like fighting season, and I
rack in Afghanistan, it's going to start right back up
again once the conditions are are conducive to them to

(39:46):
be out there for hours on end. So you know
this is gonna be an issue for quite some time.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Julio, I know you've already seen it, and shoot, you
might have been there, but this is Brandon Johnson in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Our very democracy as we know it is under attack.
And if there were ever a time for working people
to unite around this country, this is that time.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Look.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
I've started off as a public school teacher, organizing in
communities to ensure that we protect the very fundamental rights
of the access to education and housing and healthcare and transportation,
good paying jobs. These are all of the things that
we fought for after the Civil War, and now this
president is literally attacking the sanctity of what this democracy

(40:32):
is about, securing opportunities for every single person who wishes
to call the city of Chicago or this country their home.
That's what's under attack, right now. But I'm grateful that
there are organizers around the city of Chicago and throughout
the country as I have conversations with mayors that are
very clear and determined that we're going to defend this democracy,
protect our humanity, and put an end to this tyrant.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Julio. My concern, it's not just for Chicago or Portland
or anywhere else, is as the Trump administration goes into
these places, they're not Washington, d C. Where the government controls.
It's there. It is hostile territory, and even the cops
don't seem to be on our side.

Speaker 9 (41:11):
Absolutely. I mean this, I mean this is I mean,
it's insurrection, wain and simple, like an actual real insurrection.
It's a it's a low level right now, but I
mean the fact that the Chicago police were ordered to
not respond to a crowd forming on Border patrol and
ICE agents because of an agent involved shooting defensive shooting.

(41:33):
Mis should note that's a problem. I mean, at a minimum,
they're supposed to be there for crowd control, and by
the time that they were finally there, it was too late.
The situation had gotten so out of control that Border
patrol had to use tear gas to clear everybody out
because they were done with the investigation, the initial you know,
coming through of the scene. So this is this is

(41:54):
being perpetuated by the Democratic Party, and they're saying it,
They're openly saying it right now that if they get
back into power in twenty twenty eight, they're gonna go
after Ice. They're gonna go after border patrol for the
crime of enforcing immigration law that's been law for a
number of years.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Right.

Speaker 9 (42:11):
This isn't anything new. This is not putting people in
concentration camps. This is not ethnic cleansing, running of this
other nonsense. The border was open for four years, none
of this would have happened. We would not be in
this position now if the Biden Harris administration purposely opened
the border and allow millions of people from all over
the world to come in. The American people said, no,
we're not gonna put up with that. We're gonna go
with President Trump this time around again because this needs

(42:32):
to be fixed. So all of this is the Democrat's fault,
and it's just a way to shift blame and to
try to consolidate power, as they always do, right, And
they're using their street activists, their street radicals to achieve that,
and they try to say, well, no, oh, look at this,
you know repression that we're that we're facing now from
the foul government. So yeah, because you're the ones encouraging it,

(42:53):
this is your fault.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Ollill stay safe out there, my brother for you. All right,
it's time to lighten the mood. Don Lemon's an idiot
and people always tell him about it.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Okay, crossing the border illegally is not a crime.

Speaker 14 (43:19):
No, it's not a criminal act. It's a misdemeanor.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
So why are they being sent back and saying.

Speaker 14 (43:23):
That they're breaking the law.

Speaker 9 (43:24):
That's the point, Okay, as somebody that we.

Speaker 14 (43:27):
Don't know what they're breaking the law because they won't
tell there's no due process. Where's the evidence? That's the
whole point. And if they are breaking the law, most
people will say, okay, then they need to go at
their criminals. But if they're not, why are they being
rounded up and sent out, especially when he promised to
deport the criminals and now he's not doing that. I
don't think we're going not a crime, So misdemeanor is

(43:50):
not He's not a criminal act. No, if you get
charged with a misdemeanor.

Speaker 11 (43:52):
That's not a criminal if it's not a criminal act.

Speaker 14 (43:57):
Because we have different levels of crime, everything is not
the same. You know, you have different levels of I
shouldn't say crime, but it's not. It's not you're not
it's not a crime. You're not breaking the law. I mean,
you are breaking the law, but it's not a criminal act. No,
you're not breaking the law. There are there are rules
that are processes that you should follow. Yeah, so you're

(44:19):
breaking rules. You're breaking the rules, but you're not necessarily
breaking the law.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
M Maybe just stay in the studio. I'll see them
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