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September 4, 2025 45 mins

The U.S. military is being used like never before. Jesse Kelly breaks it all down alongside fellow Marine Jason Nelson, but not before Jesse dives into some alarming rhetoric from communist Democrats. You'll also hear about some critical court cases regarding tariffs and immigration from Professor Bill Jacobson. Plus, Chip Roy joins Jesse with an update on the latest battles in Congress.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
We're going to talk about violence as the Democrat rhetoric escalates.
We're going to talk about the United States military taking
all sorts of actions right now. Bill Jacobson joins us,
talking about the Supreme Court hip Roy All that and
more coming up, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Right, let's talk about violence.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Let's talk about Democrat violence as more rhetoric continues to
increase from their side. First of all, understand that you
you don't commit acts of violence all the time, and
you don't wish violence on other people all the time
only because you have something morally against it.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Me too. It's not that I'm a completely non violent person.
I admit that.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
But even our political opponents. You know, if we woke
up tomorrow and saw that Joe bid and died, I
wouldn't cheer, wouldn't be happy. I'm not gonna cry, I'm
not gonna sob I don't care for him, but that
wouldn't that wouldn't make me happy.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I wouldn't go online and it said woo dead. Yes,
this wouldn't occur to me.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
But that is because I, you and I we have
a different value system than communists do, and the enemies
of communists throughout history.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
This is not unique to America.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Have always struggled to fully understand that to a communist,
violence is a necessary part of the revolution. It is
a necessary part of the revolution.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It is so necessary.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
He will encourage it, sometimes, really really subtly encourage it.
Sometimes he'll flat out tell people go commit acts of violence.
But to him, because he has nothing morally again, violence
is just second nature. And don't think for a moment
I'm only talking about Democrat politicians, you know, elite communists,

(02:10):
or I'm only talking about Antifa or BLM or street
communist types.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
This goes for well.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
According to Poling, the majority of Democrat voters in this
country are comfortable with violence. Do I need to remind
you of the poll during COVID that showed the percentage
of Democrats that believe that you should be arrested and
thrown into a camp if you didn't mask up, didn't
take the vaccine, The percentage of Democrats that thought your

(02:41):
children should be taken away from you, It wasn't ten percent.
These are normal people. Those are acts of violence to them.
Force violence.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's what you do.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
You get power, you get the ability to use violence
and use it. Maybe the violence comes in the form
of a drained street animal. Maybe you've controlled you've taken
control of some government agency, local police force, national police force,
whatever it is. When you have the power to physically

(03:15):
hurt people in some way, the communist uses that power,
always has, always will.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
And this is what I continue warning us about. On
the right, they believe now.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Because they don't control the government right now, because the
Trump administration is making some really solid steps, they believe
violence is more necessary now than it has been before,
and they are spreading that around and we're seeing more
violence now.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Remember James Comy, former.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Head of the FBI eighty six forty seven, what essentially
amounts to a subtle death threat, a subtle encouragement for
somebody to harm Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
You knew exactly what it meant.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
This is not some street animal, some drugged out loser
on tiktoking Trump. That's the former head of the Federal
Bureau of Investigation. Now let's talk about what happened over
Labor Day weekend. Trump disappeared for a couple of days.
I don't know what he was doing, didn't matter, but
online on the internet, some weird rumors started that he

(04:22):
was dead.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Very bizarre that he was dead.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
It actually led to a pretty funny exchange between Trump
and Peter Doocy. Here was completely different, but about a
big viral social.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Media trend over the weekend. How did you find out
over the weekend that you were dead? You see that? No,
people didn't see you for a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
One point three million user engagements as of Saturday morning
about your demise.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Really, I didn't see that, you know, I have heard
it's sort of crazy. But last week I did numerous
news conferences, all successful, they went very well, like this
is going very well. And then I didn't do any
for two days, and they said there must be something
wrong with him. Biden wouldn't do him for months. You
wouldn't see him, and nobody ever said there was ever

(05:10):
anything wrong with him, and we know he wasn't the
greatest of shame.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
But let's talk about Tim Walls. Hey, look, we could
go a lot of different places with this, but let's
talk about what Tim Walls said. Tim Walls is the
governor of Minnesota. We have fifty states, he's the governor
of one of them. Stood up in front of a
bunch of Democrats as that Trump's dead rumor was flying.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Here's what he said.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
You get up in the morning and you doom scroll
through things. And although I will say this, the last
few days, you woke up thinking there might be news,
just saying, just saying, there will be news sometimes, just
so you know there will be news.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
We know what he's saying. There.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
You woke up hoping that Dom Trump was dead, and hey,
he is going to die at some point in time.
The governor of Minnesota, it's so open now with Democrat voters,
street communists, elite communists, and in fact, mister producer, I
want you to play that video one more time for me.
In this time instead of listening to Tim Walls, because

(06:21):
Tim Wallas is a quack.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I got that.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I want you to listen as the governor of Minnesota
wishes death on the president of the United States openly
behind a microphone. I want you to listen to how
the crowd responds when he does it.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
You get up in the morning and you doom scroll
through things. And although I will say this, the last
few days, you woke up thinking there might be news,
just saying, just saying, there will be news sometime, just
so you know. There will be news.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Ha ha, God, that's so funny.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Let's hope a.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Violent people.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
You have to remember you're dealing with people who view
violence differently than you view violence. Remember Ryan Ralph, the
guy who was waiting to shoot Donald Trump on the
golf course.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Ryan Ralph. Crazies like that.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
They hear that kind of rhetoric and they act on it.
Remember the guy who flew from California to murder Brett Kavanaugh.
He heard people like Chuck Schumer threatening the justices with
reaping the whirlwind, and you just ignore that as a
standard Democrats speech. But the street animals who are okay
with political violence don't view it that way. They view

(07:43):
it as marching orders. Senator Marsha Blackburn Tennessee just had
a twenty two year old woman charged with threatening to
kill her. They believe, even the average ones, they believe
violence is a necessary means to an end. They have
been so deluded, so poisoned, their minds, so poisoned.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
To believe that the world is coming to an end.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
If Donald Trump remains in power, if Republicans get power,
this is the end of all humanity. These are Nazis,
These are this all this apocalyptic language, time after time
after time after time has convinced the average Democrat that now, well,
I have no choice but to commit acts of violence.

(08:31):
And when they're little street animals, when their little pets
commit acts of violence, the elite communists then run to
cover for them as best they can. That Tranne shooter
we just had in Minneapolis, that horrible freaking shooting little
Catholic kids, NBC issued a public apology for misgendering the

(08:53):
tranning a public apology. And do keep in mind, speaking
of that, what have we talked about? Why why do
democrats want your guns?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It is? Are they naive? You know?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Because whenever, whenever they bring up gun confiscation, we will
because we don't understand what we're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
We'll hold up some facts and we'll say, well.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Actually, if you look at that, the gun, the highest
gun law states, they're the most violent. We try to
point out logic and facts, and we wonder, why doesn't
that ever work?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Why does it?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Why doesn't that work? Those are facts? Well, stop being naive.
They don't care about crime, they don't care about mass shootings.
They are very very okay with violence. What they truly,
truly care about is that they can't hurt all of us,
that they can't do to us what they see other

(09:45):
evil countries doing to their citizens. Remember what Australia did
during COVID. We saw testimony after testimony of it. Australia
built concentration camps and took unvaccinated people and threw them
in them. The free western civilization country of Australia sent
government goons door to door to apprehend people and throw

(10:08):
them in a concentration camp.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
What kind of gun laws does Tim Walls want?

Speaker 7 (10:14):
When they had a school shooting in Scotland or they
had an incident in Australia, they simply made changes. They
are just as free as we are. They still have
gun ownership requirements, but they have made sure that they
don't have these, and since they did those things, they
don't have them. We are an outlier amongst nations in
terms of what happens to our children. And I refuse
to think that that's okay. It's simply not.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh, he's not worried about the children. He is, however,
very very very worried about you and your ability to
defend yourself. Just remember, there are violent people among us.
We call them democrats. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right.

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(11:20):
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Speaker 2 (11:45):
We'll be back. We vaporized a bunch of narco traffickers.
Did you see this? Did you see this video?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
But I like that the President of the United States
himself put out a video of this drug boat. Apparently
there were eleven Trenda a Ragua guys in a boat
load of yayo heading towards the United States of America,
and they are actually no longer with us, and the
Secretary of Defense Pete Haigksath addressed it on the news
this morning.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
We knew exactly who was in that boat, we knew
exactly what they were doing, and we knew exactly who
they represented, and that was Trendy Araguay, a narco terrorist
organization designated by the United States trying to poison our
country with illicit drugs. President Trump is willing to go
on offense in ways that others have not been and
to send that clear signal to Trende Aragua, Cartel del

(12:39):
Souls and others emanating from Venezuela. We're not going to
allow this kind of activity. You're poisoning our people. We've
got incredible assets and they are gathering in the region,
and so you want to try to traffic drugs, it's
a new day, it's a different day. And so those
eleven drug traffickers are no longer with us, sending a
very clear signal that this is an activity the United
States is not going to tolerate in our hemisphere.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
We are gathering joining me now. Doug Truax, founder of
Restoration of America former US Army Captain Doug We're not
just there, We're gathering what's coming.

Speaker 9 (13:18):
Well, it is a new day, isn't it. And I
just look at this, it's such you know, on one level,
you feel the eleven people got killed, but it.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Looks like those guys deserved it.

Speaker 9 (13:28):
And you know, any situation we've had previously politically where
we've all been like, why is this going on? Why
is all this fentanyl coming into the country, Why are
the borders open?

Speaker 6 (13:37):
All these different things?

Speaker 9 (13:39):
And I think everybody in the country now has been
touched by something somewhere by the Finnel crisis. Somebody that
knew died or knew somebody that knew somebody and things
like that. And you watch these numbers and you say,
what are we going to do something about this? And
Biden was asleep at the wheel. I think back to
you know, even Obama just let these guys do whatever
he wanted to do, just kept growing and growing and growing.

(14:03):
Trump first term, you know, under fire all the time.
I had four years. Think about it now and now
he's back and super thankful for a Secretary of hegset too.
But I think all of us as Americans feel like,
you know, the number one job of the government is
protect the people, and we weren't being protected a lot
of ways. And however you feel about foreign interventions, you know,

(14:25):
I know you were you served and all that, as
did I and so we have our thoughts on being
deployed and things like that. But when you get straight
down into hey, these guys are here to hurt us there,
they're here to hurt our kids. They're making money off
of pain and suffering in our country, and our government
has previously done nothing about it. All of a sudden,
those guys get taken out, and you know it's got

(14:47):
to create. Releasing the video is genius, right, because you
want anybody on the other end of Venezuela or wherever
to look at that video and think to themselves, I
don't know about this anymore. It seemed like it was
so easy before just avoid the coast guard. Now the
stakes are much higher. You might just get blown out
of the water. And those guys, you know, what happened, right,
just happened to them, and so their buddies are gonna
watch that think about it.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
You know, you know how it is in the military too.
I'm sure sure with their ranks.

Speaker 9 (15:11):
You know, it gets around the soldiers and they're like,
I don't know, it's not so safe to go anymore.
And ay, boss, I'm calling it sick today as opposed
that next drug run. And you know that's what we need.
We need some heavy resistance going.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Back the other way.

Speaker 9 (15:22):
And it's a new day and I'm super happy to
see it. I think most Americans are, for sure, Doug.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Do we believe from what we're seeing right now that
this is just about blasting some narcos or do we
believe as Maduro very clearly believes that this is about
a potential regime change in Venezuela. I mean, moving four
thousand reds and sailors off the coast is not a
light show of force.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 9 (15:50):
And I think it sends a message that if we
wanted to do it, we could do it. And I
think that that's always been the message. You know, as
you know, being in the military, you always want to
be in a situation where you're completely prepared to do
the thing you have to do, but you're kind of
hoping you don't have to. But the simple fact that
you're prepared to do it changes people's behavior, and I

(16:12):
think that's probably the case from maduur over time. Here
he's getting put on notice that you can't just do
whatever you want going forward, regime change, you know, I don't.
I kind of regret all those Neocon decades where it's like, hey,
let's go do this, let's go do that. I'm personally
far away from that thought. But I think what does
happen is people start to behave differently when they realize

(16:35):
that if we wanted to do it, we could do it.
So so you start you should start thinking differently in Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, I agree with you on that.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Okay, I want to switch and talk about something you
will be more experienced with than I will.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Chicago. Trump went out and said we're going in here.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
He was find up on Chicago, though, well, we're going in.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
I didn't say when we're going in. When you lose, Look,
I have an obligation. This isn't a political thing. I
have an obligation when we lose. When twenty people are
killed over the last two and a half weeks, and
seventy five are shot with bullets. So let me tell
you a little story about a place called DC District

(17:19):
of Columbia. Right here where we are. It's now a
safe zone. We have no crime. It's in such great shape.
You can go and actually walk with your children, your wife,
your husband. You can walk right down the middle of
the street. You're not going to be shot.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Peter, Okay, Doug, you know Chicago better than I do.
Obviously I love the place, but you know Chicago better
than I do. I have grave concerns. And my concerns
are because of this. The Feds control DC completely. The
Feds do not control Chicago. Chicago from the top down. Pritzker,

(17:55):
Brandon Johnson has a completely hostile political class that is
not going to use the CPD in ways they probably should.
They're already calling for the citizens to rise up. I
consider this a completely different thread environment, and I'm worried
about the safety of.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Our guys, not cleaning up of crime.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I'm all fine with that, but I'm worried about the
National Guard trying to replicate in Chicago what they did
in DC.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Am I crazy?

Speaker 6 (18:22):
No, No, you're not.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
I think that that's the best point is that it's
not d C. D C has a different set of circumstances.
The South side of Chicago is where most of this happens.
Now Chicago's got a lot worse. And you know, as
you said, I know Chicago, lived there for twenty three years.
I'm Florida now made the move, but it hasn't been
that long. Just was in Chicago for a wedding a

(18:44):
couple of weekends ago. Had to go downtown, sad to
see what's happened. Even downtown, but you get to the
South Side where all the where most of the violence
happens in these killings, it's just it's you can't believe
it's our country. I had to go for a long
period of time. I'm down to University of Chicago Hospital. I
had a sick relative down there, and you have drive

(19:04):
through the drive through the South Side, and I've been
through all the other Englewood and Lawndale and everything else,
and it's just crazy what has been going on for
decades there. And this is really it's just an endemic
problem with the Democrats. They've created a situation where they're
just looking for votes, they don't care, so they've taken.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
Family out of the black community. Education is horrible.

Speaker 9 (19:24):
There's way less emphasis on our Christianity and religion and
so you have a situation where they're basically just doing
the best they can to farm votes down there because
you know, in Illinois downstate it's very red, and so
the Democrats have to especially in statewide races, you know,
Pritzker and the Senate races, they have to really manufacture
as many votes as they can in the city. So

(19:46):
that's been the emphasis over the years, and they've really
just neglected everything else as long as those guys will
keep pulling along with them, which I sincerely hope at
some point they'll be the uprising politically against these guys
in Chicago. So that's been the and and it's going
to keep going until they stop it. But to your
point though about having the military, yes, it's a different environment.

(20:07):
I think though you could say it's said to the
South Side is so vast where all this is happening.
But if you were very careful about it and very strategic,
what happens when you put the uniform people on the ground,
It just calms things down. You don't expect them to
do any real policing, and it gives the opportunity for
the police around them to go after the guys that
are kind of in their caves at the moment, right,

(20:27):
So that's that would be the only approach you could
get it done. But then you get into like is
there a declared emergency and stuff like that. And I
personally back to what I said in that previous segment
about Venezuela. You know, the first role of government is
protect the people. And these guys Pritzker and all these guys,
we've watched all these democrats all these years. They are
completely out there now. They have no idea what it
means to look out for their own people. Obviously, or

(20:48):
they would have done something by now. And I applied
President Trump for pushing is making it a huge issue.
But to your point, we got to think about this
one very clearly. That's probably why President Trump said, you
know it's on the way, because they probably haven't a
grappling with you know, what's the mechanics of doing something
like that in Chicago?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Can we fix it?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Look even if even if obviously Trump has very sharp
people around him that I'm sure, I'm sure you're right
they're coming up with a plan. Let's say we get
the energy in there, and there they've got it locked
down and cleaned up. What stops all that shooting, all
that mess from coming in the second the National Guard
guys have to go home to their wives and their jobs.

Speaker 9 (21:28):
Yeah, that's the question, and I've been That's partly why
I lived.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
I left.

Speaker 9 (21:32):
I took my family and got out of Chicago because
the will to fix it over time, it just doesn't
seem to be there. And so it's just the classic,
you know, political case of just at some point you
have to have enough people that had always voted Democrat
no matter what, say you know, we're.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Gonna do something different.

Speaker 9 (21:52):
And I've always been watching every election cycle. You know,
we're at restoration here, we do a lot of campaigns, right,
and so I've always watched every election cycle. You know,
you have the city council meetings and you have the
black folks coming in and they're just like, you got
to change this, you got to fix this. And I
a'mways taking maybe there's gonna be enough of them that
won't vote Democrat, but the numbers don't don't play that out.

(22:13):
So I'm just hoping at some point that people are
going to say, you know, the Democrats are basically want
crime in some ways, and the Republicans will stop it.
And until that happens until that mentality comes in. We
got it's a major problem because to win statewide you
get a.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
New governor and a new approach.

Speaker 9 (22:30):
In Illinois, you know, you can count on the downstate
people for sure, and some of the Color County areas.
But when you have such a heavy population in such Chicago,
it's just dead set. And I'm voting Democrat, it's a
very difficult environment to change.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Just being honest, So I'm.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
Always prayerful, hopeful, But you know, it doesn't look great overall.
But hey, it's their problem. It's you know, they got
to do something about they They have all these people
dying and they're supposed to be doing something about. So
good for Trump for calling them out. And now you know,
Pritzer's got a pr problem on his hand because it
looks like he's defending people dying. So I don't know,
we'll see what happens on that one.

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to join us. We have Supreme Court matters coming. But
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Speaker 2 (24:35):
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Speaker 10 (24:44):
We saw the appeals court rule against President Trump's terrace,
but they haven't pulled them off like they're still in
place as I would assume President Trump goes to the
Supreme Court to appeal this. What are your thoughts on
this ruling?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
That is an emergency we have to the President has
to be allowed to do this. We think we're going
to win at the Supreme Court. We are close to
a tipping point where we could have financial instability due
to these large and persistent trade deficits. So we are
trying to head off a crisis.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Okay, tariffs, No tariffs is so, I don't know. We're
not getting into that right now. What I want to
know is, why is this going to the Supreme Court?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
What are the laws? What's the legality of all this?
That was a hard word to say.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Joining me now, Bill Jacobson, Cornell University law professor, founder.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Of Legal Insurrection. Okay, Bill, but why is this a
court issue?

Speaker 6 (25:43):
What's happening?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Why is it at the Supreme Court? Please make us smarter.

Speaker 11 (25:48):
Well, the authority that President Trump invoked for his tariffs
was an emergency authority that the president has to deal
with various international emergencies. And what the court ruled was
that even if the statute applied, even if he properly
invoked an emergency the statute doesn't provide for tariffs, so

(26:11):
he did something that is beyond his authority under the statute,
assuming the statute even apply. So that was really the ruling,
and the Supreme Court's probably going to have to decide
because this was a ruling by the Court of Appeals
for the Federal Circuit. We don't talk about the Federal
Circuit very much. It's the circuit that has jurisdiction over

(26:31):
international trade disputes, among other things. So this will go,
I presume to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is
going to have to rule assuming a president properly invoked
these emergency powers. Do the emergency powers include tariffs when
tariffs is not mentioned in the statute? And that's going
to be the issue.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Okay, Bill, you're on the Supreme Court, do they?

Speaker 11 (26:57):
I think it's within the president's power. There is no
language in the statute, the statute does not purport to
be exclusive to the remedies listed in the statute, and
the president has some flexibility. So I think he's going
to win in the Supreme Court, but I don't have
a high degree of confidence in that that I might
on other issues that you and I sometimes talk about.

(27:19):
I think it's going to be a close call. I
think ultimately the Supreme Court will rule that the statute
gives the President enough authority to fashion remedies to deal
with the emergency, and that tariffs can be part of it.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Bill.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Another one heading to the Supreme Court is Trump's use
of the Alien Enemies Act to depourt gang bangers and criminals.
But I'm very very confused, Bill, because I thought we
already had a decision on this. Why do we need
a second decision? I thought all these decisions were final.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
What's happening.

Speaker 11 (27:53):
Well, the prior decision by the Supreme Court essentially sent
it back down to the lower court, sent it back
down to the Fifth Court of Appeals, and that was
what happened the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, a panel
of the Fifth Circuit has now addressed it and has
said that the President did not properly invoke that Act
because what is happening with is Venezuelan gang does not

(28:16):
constitute an invasion as required by the statute. But I
think that may not hold up even in the Fifth Circuit,
because within the last hour or two I saw that
one of the judges on the Fifth Circuit which is
a large bench. I don't know how many judges they have,
but more than a dozen said, hold off, we want
to reconsider this, we want to withhold what they call

(28:39):
the mandate. Don't send this back down to the lower
courts to implement yet. So my guess is that this
is going to go to the full Fifth Circuit, and
I think the Full Fifth Circuit will find that the
president is the one who gets to decide if there's
an invasion, not the federal court. And certainly what has
been happening with venezuel gang members here for the purpose

(29:02):
of subverting our country is sufficient for the president to
reach that judgment. So I don't think it's going to
go to the Supreme Court right away because I don't
think it's going to survive the full Fifth Circuit. But
if it does, we'll be back on the merits in
the Supreme Court, whereas last time we are dealing with
kind of emergency injunctions and things like that.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Pete haeg sas Defense Secretary, Pete haeg Sath announced that
he's grabbing six hundred DoD Department and defense lawyers and
he's going to have them be immigration judges. One I'm
a little dumbfounded. We have six hundred freaking lawyers at
all in the DoD in two.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
How does this work?

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Well?

Speaker 11 (29:44):
I think it's a really important move because one of
the things that the left has done, the Democratic Party
has done, is they understood the weak point in the
immigration system. Our immigration system and legal system is not
equipped to deal with millions and millions of asylum cases
and millions and millions of cases. It's just not equipped.

(30:06):
So if you flood the system, even if these claims
are frivolous, you essentially bring the system to a halt.
And that's what's happened. So what he's doing is he
is adding six hundred judges to process cases. How long,
how many they can handle, I don't know, but it's
going to be tens of thousands more than they can
handle before. And so that's really important because that's the

(30:27):
game the Democrats played, Flood the system, open the borders,
bring in so many people who are taught to claim asylum,
which is at one point was a legitimate claim. It
was meant people being persecuted abroad, typically for religion or ethnicity,
and they figured out as soon as you get here,
claim asylum and it's going to take years for you

(30:49):
to work your way through the system. Then you ramp
that up with open borders, and the immigration systems just
completely overwhelmed. I don't think six hundred is enough. Probably
need six thousand or ten thous but at least they
were able to free up six hundred DoD lawyers people
who were probably I don't know why they have six
hundred either, but they apparently they have six hundred they

(31:10):
can spare, so they've probably got another six hundred.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Or eight hundred.

Speaker 11 (31:14):
And you know, people in the military have legal problems.
There are issues with regard to bases and transportation and
international things, so it doesn't surprise me there were a
lot of lawyers in the army in the military, but
I'm glad they filled freed up six hundred to start
processing these cases and getting people who have no right
to be here out of here.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Bill, do you have any base of knowledge on how
long I know it's a done detail, how long these
cases take. And I'm sure they vary, of course, but
in general, is this an hour that you have to
spend having to hear you know why Lupe gets to stay?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Is it a week? How long does it take for
each person.

Speaker 11 (31:52):
Yeah, well that's one of the big issues. The whole
court process can take months or years, but the actual
hearing self can be truncated, and so I don't think
they need a ten week trial for every asylum case.
That's of course what the Democrats would like. They would
like to completely bring the system to a halt. I

(32:12):
think most of these people will probably get an hour
worth of hearing and that's it. But that's a lot
when you're talking about millions of people. You don't get
millions of hours of an immigration judges, you know, time,
And that's why the emergency orders and the attempts to
expedite people out of the country are so critical and
so important, and that's why some of the court decisions

(32:37):
getting in the way of that. You know, of course
we want due process, but are we really going to
give due process to ten million people who cross the
border under Biden? None of the virtually none of them
have a legitimate claim. We might as well, you know,
just set a match to the country if that's what
we're doing. So this is a really you know, people
talk a lot about a constitutional crisis. Well I think

(32:59):
we've got a This is the immigration system that we
are giving people rights who have no right to be
here on such a volume that it's essentially shutting down
the system.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Bill as always, Thank you, sir, appreciate you. All right,
there's a government funding deadline coming. We're gonna talk to
Ship Roy about it about how badly we're about to
be screwed. Before we talk to him. Have you subscribed
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(33:32):
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Speaker 2 (33:45):
Talk to Chip next.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
All right, well, there is a government funding deadline coming. No,
I promise, hold on, hold on, I promise it's actually
September third, and you're watching a new show on I'm right,
this is not a repeat.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
We haven't screwed it up.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
There's a government funding deadline coming, and nobody in the
GOP is on the same page, and blah blah blah
blah blah. We all know exactly how it's going to go.
They'll run it right up to the deadline, forcing everybody
to sign some gigantic pile of crap until we're all
bankrupt in our dollar isn't worth two Nichols joining me
now the great Congressman Chip Roy, now candidate for Texas

(34:33):
Attorney General. Well, Chip, did I get any of that wrong?
Because I'll tell you, I feel like I've seen this
movie before.

Speaker 12 (34:40):
Well, you mean to tell me that every September, we're
not getting a different script from the producers here in
Hollywood for ugly people, as they say about Washington, DC. Look,
here's the.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Thing, here's the good news.

Speaker 12 (34:53):
Right now that we are eight months plus into the
president's administration. We moved ruined, got the CR done in March. Now,
most of us don't love crs. Hey, guys, do your job,
get an appropriations bills passed. I'm one of those. I
think we should do our job. But remember that the
problem with the appropriations process, the spending process. We have

(35:14):
to go through the Senate, and Democrats in the Senate
are crazy. So you you got to get seven votes
from Democrats in the Senate to move something through. So
that's why we ended up with a CR in March.
A lot of conservatives who don't like what we call
continuing resolutions that keep funding government at the previous levels.
They don't love those things. But let's remember that we

(35:34):
have the Trump administration in charge of all of the
policies and the execution of those policies in the administration,
in the various agencies. Why am I giving all this
background because it is my considered judgment that we're going
to need to get comfortable with continuing resolutions. Being our friend,
we do our job in the House, we pass bills
that cut spending. We're doing that, not as fast as

(35:57):
I would like, not as much as I would like,
but we are moving bills that reduce spending. In the end,
the Senate's going to say no to that. For the
most part. We might be able to force their hand
on one or two of them, but probably not so. Ultimately,
if we end up with a continuing resolution, for physical
hawks like you and me, that's actually kind of a
win because if we can hold spending at basically the

(36:18):
twenty four spending levels, then we're holding it flat and
we're actually cutting it back in terms of inflation. So
we'll see what happens in September. I would ultimately support
a continuing resolution at current levels, because, honestly, Jesse, if
we passed a ten year continuing resolution and never came
back to Washington. That would probably be a good thing,

(36:39):
right because we would just hold spending flat for ten
years and we can grow out of it. So we'll
see what happens in September. A lot of work to
be done, and we had a lot of debates seven
next couple.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Weeks, Jim, as you have told us before, because it
seems to happen a lot. You mentioned the Senate puts
a stop on these things. I don't understand. We supposedly
have control of the Senate. Why does the Senate stop
any reduction in spending. I understand those dorks in the
Senate are not going to cut as much as.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I want cut.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'm not an unrealistic person. We can't cut anything.

Speaker 12 (37:13):
Well, we have two problems. We have Republicans who pretend
to be Republican and who will spend money and fight
us at every turn. We had to navigate those Republicans
when we were moving the bill that's the reconciliation bill
that be came the big beautiful bill, right, So we
had to navigate Republicans that wanted to spend more. We
held that in chat Democrats they want to fight us
at every turn. So to get seven Democrats to get

(37:35):
to the threshold of sixty under the current Senate rules,
you've got to convince Democrats to go along. And they
have no interest in working with us. They want to
say that Scott is falling, they were taking away benefits
from old people and women and all the greater horribles
that they want to put forward, rather than working with
us to actually deliver something that's physically responsible. So that's
what we have to work with. I mean, look, I

(37:56):
got to be honest. We ought to be pushing the
Senate on why it's adhering to the sixty vote threshold,
rather than forcing them to have actual filibusters to stop
the progress. So those are things we got to talk through.
But right now we can't get something through the Senate
without them getting the sixty votes.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Are we going to get a decent member of Congress
when you leave and go become Attorney General or is
it going to be some nerd that we're gonna I'm
gonna have to savage on this show all the time.

Speaker 12 (38:25):
Well, first of all, I need to go earn the votes.
I need to go earn the votes of the people
of Texas to be the Attorney General. I hope I
will do that as a former prosecutor and the former
person assistant attorney General, and frankly someone who I think
has demonstrated a commitment to conservatism and the rule of
law and securing the border and going after corporate cronyism
and Chinese communist lands. Were like today introducing a bill
of band stock trading. I think I've earned, hopefully the

(38:46):
trust of the people of Texas. But and if I do,
and I'm moving on, hopefully the people of Texas twenty
one will send somebody really solid. But look, it's up
to them. Someone's got to go earn it. Okay, you
can't buy it, you can't come in from on high.
You got to earn it and talk to the people.
And look, the odds are never great because the members
of Congress, statistically speaking, have not been that good. But

(39:08):
I do trust the people of Texas twenty one. They're
a good, solid group of people, and hopefully we'll find
somebody solid to send up there.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Tell me about this stock trading thing. I know you're
on this.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I know Tim Burchett's on this, that the decent people
are on this. It's amazing to me, this is something
that can't get done. Even the savages who were part
of the Democrat party base, some of them want this
to get done. It's horrible that members of Congress are
allowed to insider trade with knowledge they have that we don't.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
It's against the law. How is this How is this
not already passed?

Speaker 12 (39:39):
Yeah, it should have been passed a long time ago.
I will say, this isn't a weird situation or strange bedfellows.
I introduced legislation five years ago with a Democrat who's
currently running for governor in Virginia. We disagree on most things,
but she and I, Abigail Spamberger, we read on this.
We're sitting down, we had a beer, we're talking through it,
and said yeah, let's go do this. So we were

(39:59):
the first we led, and we said, hey, this is
a big issue. We had three or four or five
other colleagues who had different bills, So we now have
merged all those bills together into one bipartisan consensus bill.
When I say bipartisan, Jesse, I mean this is me
stating on the same stage with Promeila Giapaul, with Alexandria
Costio Cortes, with other of the four far love members

(40:22):
of Congress and conservatives like Scott Perry, Tim Burchett from Tennessee.
You know, we've got a great Annapolina Luna. We've got
a great group, and I think we're going to force
the hand. Now, look, the arguments we get on the
floor are pretty ridiculous. Members of Congress will come forward
and say, well, our salary is not good enough, so
we need to be able to trade stocks to be
able to pay for kids college or do whatever, to

(40:45):
which I say, we can have a debate about congressional salaries, right,
they've been frozen for fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
That's up.

Speaker 12 (40:51):
The people decide, and we got to decide what to do.
But to say that you're going to day trade, day trade,
like engage in stock trading on the very subject matters
you're entrusted to objectively go vote on on behalf of
your constituents. If you want to trade stocks on a
daily basis, then get out of Congress. There's three hundred
and thirty million Americans, we're four hundred and thirty five.

(41:14):
You don't want to be in Congress. To go home,
that's fine, right, So I'm not sympathetic or moved by that.
And I will tell you one last point. Those of
us who are vocal about it, we're owning it. We're
saying we shaban it, and it's a ninety ten issue.
My colleagues, you don't like it. I promise you they're
not saying that very loudly because they know their constituents
won't agree with the.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Chip.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
What's the status of the Freedom Caucus. It's been a
pleasure watching it grow over the years and just something
that is now a headache for GOP leadership, which I love.
Is it still growing, Is it still strong? Is it
getting watered down as happens over time.

Speaker 12 (41:53):
Actually, I think it's never been as strong as it
is right now. And I say that with all due
respect to my very good friends Mark Meadow's Jim or
those who founded. And remember I was on Capitol Hill
as Ted Cruz's chief of staff when the Freedom Caucus
did not exist, but we were meeting with what would
become the Freedom Carcuss and then the Freedom Caucus got created.
About the time I left working for Ted, I was

(42:15):
back in Texas. I was actually working in the AG's
office as the first Assistant Attorney General. And then the
Freedom Caucass was founded and it started to have an impact.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Well, then I.

Speaker 12 (42:26):
Get there in twenty nineteen I joined, some other great
folks join it, and we've got, I think, a very
outsized impact in shaping the direction of policy to try
a shrink government shrinks bang now, not as much as
you want or I want, but forcing everybody to deal
with these difficult issues. It's as strong as it's ever been.
Now I'm leaving to go home to Texas to hopefully
be Attorney General if I earned that right. Ralph Norman

(42:48):
is going to South Carolina running for governor. Andy Biggs
running for governor of Arizona. Byron Donalds is running for
governor of Florida, two or three others that we might lose,
but we've got new people coming in. We have some
young folks in there. That and a part of the fights.
Let me give you two examples. Andrew Clyde and Josh
Rourkeen joined with me and Ralph Norman and the Budget
Committee and we voted now the big beautiful bill in

(43:09):
the face of all of the arrows and all of
the heat coming at us because it wasn't doing enough
on the green new scam subsidies, and we weren't sure
it was going to deliver on the Medicaid restrictive productions
that we thought were so important. So we fought and
we held the line, and then we got some real
changes in the right direction. Those are some younger guys
and guys that aren't leaving. There's some good folks in

(43:29):
the Freedom Caucus, but we got to grow his ranks.
We need good people to run, you know, we need
solid conservative Freedom Caucus warriors to join and come up
here and join the fight.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Thank you, Chip, appreciate you. It's always man. Lighten the mood.
Thanks all right, it's time to lighten the mood. And
the flyovers get me. Military flyers. Flyovers have always gotten me.

(44:06):
I guess I'm just the ugliest of ugly Americans when
I'm at a football game and it happens they get me.
They did one for us when we were in Kuwait
getting ready to go into Iraq. It's one of the
coolest freaking things ever. And Trump met with the polls
today and honored the Polish leader and honored a fallen

(44:26):
Polish fighter and the formation you're going to see overhead.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
They didn't screw it up. It's called the missing man formation.
It's what you do when you're honoring a fallen hero.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Pretty cool. I'll see them
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