Charlie Kirk's Killer is not Cooperative

Today on the Jimmy Barrett Show:

• Charlie Kirk's killer is not cooperative

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:32):
start the show off with prostitutes and uh. And look,
we're gonna get to the Charlie Kirk story plenty more
in the trolley Kirk story in our next segment by
by I want to start with this one. We had
a couple of questions of the day all in our
morning show on kat r H and uh. One of
them had to do with prostituts. As as it turns out,

(00:54):
evidently that's a term that's in used to describe fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen year old girls who are dressed up in these
really short dresses, short tight, showing a lot of cleavage
dresses for homecoming. Now we've kind of gotten used to
the idea that this is what senior girls like to
wear to their senior prom, but it's also happening for

(01:18):
much younger girls. For homecoming. Now, I mentioned this morning
that there's a mum tradition here in Texas, so maybe
that helps with some of these dresses. But it is
amazing to me sort of the herd mentality that goes
with this, that we have so many moms who think
it's perfectly okay for their daughters to dress this way.
And now I get the peer pressure thing. I do.

(01:40):
I do understand that you know, these girls have friends,
and these friends are allowed to dress this way, and
you don't want to be the parent who says no. Well,
that's what being a parent is all about. Sometimes, I
guess I'm not suggesting by the way that you put
them in a floor length dress or tell them they
can't go to homecoming. You just say no, we're not

(02:00):
that Yeah, no, we're not getting that address. So anyway,
we open up the We did that question and we
also did another question on something that maybe is equally
as tacky, and that is more and more young people
who are putting credit card machines in at their wedding
receptions right there on the table, you know, like the

(02:21):
ones they have it at the restaurants like you go
to Olive Garden. You know, they got the one right
on the table where your bill shows up on that
and you can pay right at the table. You don't
don't have to pay the wait staff. You can pay
right at the table. They're doing the same thing at
tables at wedding receptions, looking to either pay for the
honeymoon or recruit some of the costs of the wedding,

(02:43):
like the like the the open bar. Well, if you're
taking donations for the open bar, then it's it's a
cash bar, right, It's not an open bar anymore. But anyway,
I asked both of those this morning. We got some
interesting responses. To say the least. Let's start with the
whole uh you know, credit card Thinglake Conrode.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
No, no credit card machine in there. Men, my brothers
and I, my three brothers and my first cousin. We
played forty two years for weddings, and we sold the bridshoe,
We had the brides dance. They had a mailbox over
there for the money, they had a table over there
for the presents, and then there was a ton of

(03:23):
hugs after.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
And that's hey, Jimmy, I've been married for thirteen years
and at our wedding we never had such a thing
as a credit card machine at our wedding. That just
sounds incredibly tacky. We're the old schooed people re registered
and our preferred vendors told everybody where we have registered
at and what we would like to see, and many
people have respotted well. In fact, at our bridal shower
we got three coffee makers and we only had.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
For one skip from Webster. Yes, I'm afeared.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
As my pastor used to refer, the prostatate look is
here to stay, at least for a while.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, everything's gotting more revealing. The girls, if they wear
any underwear to.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Frome are thoughts where their bum cheeks are hanging out,
and if you say something to them, you're random, annoying,
an extra whatever in the hell that means. I guess
I'm just a dinosaur.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, are we all? Aren't we all? Hey? On the
on the credit card thing? Yeah, I've got some theories
on why that may be happening. For one thing, let's
take a look at who's getting married now. There's when
when most of us were younger and we got married,
we were in our twenties, probably in our young twenties.

(04:36):
We weren't cohabitating with that person that we were going
to marry, we weren't living with them, so we were
starting off a household together. So yeah, you're registered for
coffee makers and toasters and all that kind of stuff
because you didn't have any of those things. Now you've
got people who are winning later in life to marry.

(04:57):
In many cases, they're already cohabit. They're living together. Some
of them have been living together for years before they
actually bother to tie the knot. So they've already got
the coffee makers, they already they already have all that stuff.
The only thing left to ask for is money. Now,

(05:18):
most people are more than happy to contribute money if
especially if you're not registered for anything. But to put
credit card terminals in at the reception to try to
capture people who maybe had had a little bit, I
guess it works from a certain extent because people are there,
they've had they've had a few drinks, you know, and
they're feeling kind of generous, and oh yeah, this go ahead,

(05:42):
and they you know, they go ahead and swipe the
cart and make a contribution. And I'm guessing that the
you know, the newly weds are making off like bandits
on this stuff. This gets some more thoughts.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Good morning. Having a critical machine and a winning is ridiculous.
And taxi and you need to just I've got to
give a wedding if you have to beg for more many.
Second thing is wearing those stimpy little dresses to homecoming
and drawm that's ridiculous. They should be ashamed and the
parents should be ashamed because they're not teaching their girls

(06:12):
how to be ladies.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Hey, Jimmy's is Rick from the east Side. We have
one of those drivers at companies in our office building
and we see kids outside our building all the time
waiting to take their driver's test. And I would say,
ninety of the girls that are their dress like you

(06:34):
know what. I guess it helps with their test course.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Sluts. Is that the word? Hi? I'm sorry if I
offended you by using that word. If you're old fashioned
or nothing, God, that's probably the word you would think
up to use. Prostitats, that's not any better pick call
somebody a procettote. Yeah, I'm not sure. You know. Fashion.
Fashion goes in psych so you always hope, okay, well

(07:02):
this will change and you know people will get a
little bit more modest again. And so far that hasn't
happened so far. It's like a contest to see how
sexy young girls can be, at least when it comes
to going to homecoming or going to the prom. That
is not likely to change. And one more thought on
the whole credit card thing at the terminals. I guess

(07:25):
one couple they're in England. I'll grant you that. But
one couple even used signs with QR codes. So you
take a picture of the QR code and it takes
you to where you can make a donation. And on
the sign it said, don't be tight, pay for our flight.
So I guess they have a sense of hearer about it,

(07:47):
but I still think it's kind of tacky. All Right,
we're going to take a quick little break. We're back
with mortimoment. We will talk about Charlie Kirsch next during
a nine fifty KPRC Jimmy Barrett show. All Right, free

(08:14):
intonate on the Charlie Kirk story. We have the shooter.
I know his name. I've used it maybe once or twice.
He's not a mass shooter. He's an assassin. But there's
no reason to give exeter publicity to an assassin. You
don't need me to use his name to know who
he is who is not cooperating evidently with the authorities.
Not a big surprise there, but the roommate is now

(08:37):
the roommate, as it turns out, is has a relationship
with the shooter. Here is the report from NBC News
New Insight into murder suspect Tyler Robinson. Authorities telling NBC
News the twenty two year old is now on a
special watch status and under close supervision inside Utah County jail.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
The suspect has not been cooperating so far on Meet
the Press, Utah's governor said Robinson's former roommate is helping investigators,
adding the two we're in a romantic relationship.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
We can confirm that that roommate is.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
A boyfriend who is transitioning from male to female. I
will say that that person has been very cooperative with authorities.

Speaker 8 (09:22):
The governor, adding the roommate had no idea Robinson was
planning an attack on conservative activist Charlie Kirk. A federal
official tells NBC News there's not a solid understanding of
whether there's any connection between that relationship and the shooting.
Kirk open on his views, critical of both transgender people
and trans rights investigators say the suspect told his.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Family he didn't like Kirk or his viewpoints.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
According to family and people that were interviewing, he does
come from a conservative family, but his ideology was very
different than his family.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
State charges already expected to be filed against the suspect
on Tuesday in Arizona. Point Us say the conservative organization
Kirk co founded is now planning a massive memorial I
give it next Sunday at Arizona State Farm Stadium, expecting
to draw President Trump.

Speaker 9 (10:10):
We're going to be going to Charlie's. I guess you'd
call it a funeral. There's this small one, I said,
can we do the big one? Because we're going to
give him the Presidential Meddle a freedom, which is a
big deal.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
The more tributes appearing nationwide on NFL Sunday, several teams
honoring Kirk before kickoff's Live for Your Glory, and in
Phoenix we agree that Charlotte Kirk's life will be celebrated today.
Kirk's church remembering his impact, calling his life a testament
to unwavering conviction, and even sharing an AI generated message

(10:42):
of Kirk himself from beyond the graves.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Don't wait one second morning.

Speaker 10 (10:47):
I knew the risks of standing up in this cultural moment,
and I do it.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
All over again. Wow. Just wow. And speaking of wow,
did you see Erica his wife? What was that, sir?
Saturday night? I think it was, yeah, Saturday night. Wow.
Man tuned away from watching college football to check that out,
and it was very emotional and very moving. So and

(11:16):
that's generally been the reaction for the most part. You know,
there are plenty of haters out there, you know, they're
all They're all I guess, I guess. The good news
is you're finding out if you had any doubt in
your life where your friends have stood on issues, you
know now right after what happened to Charlie Kirk, you know,
now if you had somebody who was keeping their mouth shut,

(11:39):
Not that very many progressives will, but if you had
somebody who was keeping their mouth shut and then just
unleashed on the whole Charlie Kirk thing had that had
that negative, emotional, overwrought reaction, then you know, you know
now where they stand on things. It's good that you know.
It is good that you know. I think a lot

(12:00):
of on social media, a lot of a lot of
friends less lists have been cleared out. A lot of
people have been taking a look at who's on their
friend list and making decisions about whether or not they're
going to stay there. So that's the NBC report. Now
there's some things in there that are missing. Granted it's
coming from NBC, right so you know that they're not

(12:22):
saying anything more than they have to about this boyfriend
slash girlfriend. But here's what I think we can surmise
from some of this. Anyway, These things don't happen in
a vacuum. He's having He has a romantic relationship with
this guy, who, by the way, according to the parents

(12:43):
of this boyfriend, is a big time Charlie Kirk hater,
hates Christians in particular. So there you go. There's the
Christian hate factor and no bigger face for Christianity right
now than Charlie Kirk. By the way, a little update
on this that kind of backs what I'm telling you

(13:03):
from FBI Director Cash Betel. This is from earlier this morning.

Speaker 11 (13:06):
We were able to obtain in record time the text
message chain between the suspect and has live in partner,
as well as other critical cellular information from our cast
team that analyzes cell phone data towers in the area
to pinpoint the locations of the suspect and other individuals
he was speaking with. This is critical information that the

(13:28):
FBI processed and got to prosecutors so they can lawfully
use it in a court of law and our investigation,
our interviews continue, but we've learned some shocking things when
we spoke to his family and friends as well.

Speaker 10 (13:40):
You want to share them, not sure?

Speaker 11 (13:45):
And my job, my job as FBI director is not
to speak to motive, is to speak to the facts,
and that's what I'm going to do. His family has
collectively told investigators that he subscribed to left wing ideology
and even more so in these last couple of years,
and he had a text message exchange he this suspect

(14:08):
with another individual in which he claimed that he had
an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and he was
going to do it because of his hatred for what
Charlie stood for. Those are factually accurate investigatory findings by
the FBI that we've handed over to the local authorities
and the federal authorities to make their prosecutoral decisions. But

(14:29):
I believe in this instance of such public importance, the
public has a right to know.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
And good for Cashpttel for believing that we the public
have a right to know. All right. The text message
chain is going to be very interesting here. Who was
the killer talking to? Did the killer text anybody about
what it was he was going to do before he
did it, before he did it, not after he did it,
but before he did it. Because if he did and

(14:54):
that person had reasonable knowledge of what was going to
happen and didn't do anything about it, then it seems
to me that person should have some criminal culpability of
their own, and I would not mind seeing that individual
charge the full success of the law. They may not
be directly responsible for the death of Charlie Kirk, but
they contributed to it by not saying anything about it,

(15:17):
by not warning authorities that this was a possibility. So
we need to find out who did he text? What
message did he text? What message is did he text?
Was the boyfriend slash girlfriend? Was that one of the
ones he text? Because right now the boyfriend is cooperating
with authorities while the killer is not. So maybe the

(15:40):
reason why the boyfriend's being so cooperative is trying to
get out from underneath some possibility that he could be
charged as an accessory, or knowing ahead of time what
was likely to happen wouldn't surprise me at all. So
there's gonna be a lot more here to come on
this particular case. Now, as far as you know, the

(16:01):
mental state of mind of some of these people who
not only, by the way, not only think that it's
okay that this happened to Charlie Kirk, but the ones
who are the kind of people who had perpetrated a
crime like this. I mean, is there something about their
brain that's damaged that just didn't working right? I saw
a child and adult psychologist, doctor Daniel Amon spelled like amen,

(16:27):
explaining the connection between brain health, faith and also political violence,
and he says there is a connection between all those things.
This is a time to grieve.

Speaker 12 (16:41):
It's also a time to really try to understand why
these things keep happening.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
And it's not a simple answer.

Speaker 12 (16:50):
I always think of my patients in four big circles.
So what's the underlying biology? We are sicker than we
have ever been, which means our brains are sicker. At
Aman Clinics we do a study called brain spectimagy and
it looks of blood flow and activity.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And I've scanned.

Speaker 12 (17:09):
Over one hundred murderers, a thousand convicted felons, and they
do not have healthy brains. I sent an image of
a healthy scan compared to one of the mass murderers,
and his brain is very damaged.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
But it's not just biology.

Speaker 12 (17:29):
We always have to think of what are the biological factors,
the psychological factors, the social and even spiritual factors.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Fifty eight percent.

Speaker 12 (17:39):
Of young people have no sense of meaning or purpose
and all of these things matter.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Most of them actually don't understand the.

Speaker 12 (17:49):
Algorithms and the bots that spew hatred. When I posted
about my friendship and love for Charlie, lots of people
loved it, but they're all these haters.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
And I'm like, why are you hating me?

Speaker 12 (18:05):
But when you actually go to their accounts, they have
zero or no followers, so you know their bots. And
this is a big issue in our society because the
more hatred, the more clicks, the more clicks, the more money.
And we have to be so careful with this. And

(18:27):
I think we social media for under sixteen because they
saw the research. This is devastating to our children's brings.
'reing the biggest brain and mental health epidemic and history.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I believe that's correct, I really do. And the thing
about the bots is, I mean, who's behind the bots? China,
maybe Russia. Those are two countries who would like to
see US warring with each other. So take that into
consideration too. All right, quick little break back with more
in a moment. Jimmy Barrett Shaw, you're an AM nine
to fifty KPRC. All right, let's talk a little bit,

(19:18):
you know, to get back to the Charlie Kirk story
here for a second. Let's talk a little bit about,
you know, what's been going on with the media on this,
because the media is not just social media, but the
media in general, the mainstream media, the MSNBC's of the world,
those people versus Fox and whatever obviously been covering it
from very very different angles. You know. There have been

(19:40):
left commentators on the left who have reveled in the
idea that Charlie Kirk got exactly what he should have gotten,
what he had coming to him, And of course those
of us who are on the right who cannot begin
to fathom why anybody would feel that way. We have teachers,
including right here in Texas in particular, as far as
an occupation, you know, education seems to be the number

(20:03):
one culprit right now. They're not alone, They're they're even
police and firefighters and other people who are weighing in
on Charlie Kirk in a negative way. But I think
those in education have shown themselves to be the most
willing to go out there and and talk about Charlie
Kirk somehow deserving what happened to him, And it's just sick.

(20:24):
It's just sick. Now, the tea here in Texas claims
is going to investigate these teachers. But do you think
anything's going to come of it? You know, do you
do you really think anybody's going to get fired? I'd
be really surprised. There's gonna be a few people are
going to get suspended or have a stern talking to,
But as far as teachers here in Texas getting fired,
I would be surprised. If you if you know of

(20:46):
a teacher who has behaved this way and you want
to see them fired, you're gonna have to go to
school board meetia. You're gonna have to raise Holy hell
if you want to see anything come from that. But
here's a guy, for example, talking about the media and
gaslighting on the Charlie Kirk story. He has his own podcast.
His name is Tim Poole.

Speaker 10 (21:04):
It's a gaslighting campaign in my opinion, because in order
to maintain the line the right is more violent, they
do several things. They try to gaslight us in situations
like this that a conservative would shoot Charlie Kirk. He
was the greatest tool in the arsenal of conservative values.
And they go online, they use these NGOs, these nonprofits
to claim that a run of the mill, moderate conservative

(21:27):
is the same thing as a white supremacist who wants
to overthrow the government. They're so far removed from each other.
That's the game they're playing now because they don't want
to take responsibility for the rhetoric. The rhetoric they say
every day when they accuse us of being Nazis or
fascist or far right. They say this so that, as
you've already pointed out, when the violence happens, no one
likes a Nazi, right.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
But let me add this.

Speaker 10 (21:49):
I think the reality now that I've unfortunately had to
deal with, that we are all seeing is that this
man who shot Charlie was much closer to mainstream democrat
than any of us wanted to believe. I woke up
to post on Instagram from people that I thought were
my friends, that I've known for years, And mind you,
they're liberal, but I always considered them to be moderate liberals,

(22:10):
not particularly active, and they're posting messages saying, Charlie deserved it,
he got the world he wanted. And they know who
I am, and they know that he was my friend.
And I don't understand how these relationships can be repaired.
Even friends of mine who are not political, who are
you know telling me I'm sorry, you know this happened?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Are telling They're saying on their facebooks.

Speaker 10 (22:32):
There are people posting celebrating this that they didn't even
realize we're political, And I don't know how we recover
from that.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
He's gonna be a tough one, it really is. You
know you, there's the part of you that would hope that,
you know, somehow that this occurrence would kind of draw
us closer together, or make some of us give up
extreme positions, or at the very least have a conversation
with each other that is normal and not arguing and

(23:00):
not based on any motion and anger, but just okay,
let's sit down, let's talk about this. Why do you
feel the way you feel? I'll tell you why I
feel the way I feel. But those conversations aren't happening yet.
And what also is not happening is is people who have,
you know, posted some pretty gas lit things about Charlie
Kirk are not willing to back off again. I saw

(23:21):
a little segment on Who Show with this, Oh yeah,
Piers Morgan Uncensored where he had Dave Rubin on I'm
sure you're familiar with Dave Rubin, and Dave Rubin was
talking to a podcaster who's on the far left about
some of the things that he had said about Charlie Kirk,
and the guy's denying that he said those things until

(23:42):
Dave Rubin actually played back a cut where he actually
said it. Let's take a listen to that.

Speaker 13 (23:47):
I am in somewhat of a reconciliatory mode here, so
I'd like to ask Jank. I have ten pets put
up about Charlie Kirk. They are on his channel right now,
and let's see if Jank believes that these are true.
Lee Kirk says prominent black women took white people's spots.
Charlie Kirk boasts about his all white basketball team. Charlie
Kirk gives piggish advice to high school girls. Ex employee

(24:11):
exposes Charlie Kirk's grift Charlie Kirk. Kirk embarrasses himself. Charlie
Kirk's brain melts explaining anti VAX's conspiracy. Charlie Kirk rants
about women in their thirties. Charlie Kirk has literally no
clue how the real world works. Charlie Kirk gets triggered,
declines appearance over pronouns. Charlie Kirk doubles down on women

(24:31):
hating backlash. I am telling you, peers, Charlie Kirk was
one of the best human beings I ever met. He
did not have a bone of racism, misogyny, or anything
else in his body. But liars lie and they gin
up otherwise good people. From the little bit we know
about this shooter, he had a stable household, he was
going to college, He was fine. We'll find out where

(24:52):
he got radicalized. But please, please, let's not pretend we
don't know where this stuff is coming from. And please
let's not pretend this thing is going both ways, because
it is absolutely not. I also have a well you
know what, Jenk, I'll ask you a question directly, Actually,
do you think Charlie wanted to be martyred? Do you
think Charlie wanted to be martyreed? Do you think Charlie
wanted to be killed?

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yes? Or no? Of course not what kind of ask
My question is that.

Speaker 13 (25:15):
Oh you don't, because that's pretty interesting because here's a
video of you Jank talking when Charlie was out of breakfast.

Speaker 14 (25:22):
It allows for easy martyrdom for these guys and they
don't deserve it. But I do also want to point out,
as in they're in the middle of crying now, although
Charlie was smiling ear to year throughout the entire video
thinking yes.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I'm know the victim. Yeah, and of course that's out
of context, blah blah blah. Yeah, but that's what you said,
you're talking about martyrs. Well, Charlie Kirk is a martyr.
He's a martyr for a cause. He's been elevated to
that because somebody psychotic on the far left decided to

(25:57):
take him out. So if you don't like him being
a mart or, you have nobody to blame but the
people who believe what you believe, all Right, I guess
that's it for today. All right, you' all have a
great day. Thank you for listening. I sure do appreciate it.
We will move on from this story. We will, we will,
we will think happier thoughts, and we will have other
things to talk about. But this, this story is far

(26:17):
from over you at the Charlie Kirk story. Y'all have
a great day. See tomorrow morning Burn early five well
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