Should Texas follow Oklahoma's lead on new teachers?

Today on the Jimmy Barrett Show:

• Dr. Carole Haynes on Oklahoma's new testing process for incoming teachers

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Well, this is drive time here in Houston, So this
seems like a good topic to bring back up here
this afternoon for those of you who are on your
way home, uh and listening to M nine fifty kp
r C keeping your eye out for police, hoping that
they'll catch you speeding or whatever it is that you're doing,
you know, not signaling when you're changing your lanes. By

(00:51):
the way, is it just me or does it seem
like virtually nobody uses their their turn signal here in
town if you notice that. I'm usually pretty good about
turn signals, but I'm getting to feel like I'm the
only one who's using his turn signals. And the people
It's funny because the people who do they wait till
the last second, you know, they they're almost making the

(01:13):
actual turn when they turn the turn signal on. I've
never experienced that anywhere else, but here in Houston. That's
the weirdest thing to me. I would think that if
you're going to bother to use your turn signal, you
would you'd turn it on, you know, maybe about you know,
a block or so away from where you're actually going

(01:35):
to turn, or at least a half a block away
from where you're actually going to turn, so you can
warn that guy who's up on your butt right now,
tailgating you, that you're gonna be hitting your brakes and
making the turn, so he may want to back off
a little bit. But hey, maybe that's just me. But
you know, for all of us who've ever been stopped
by the police for whatever reason, whether we're talking about
a driving infraction or something else, you know, how you

(01:59):
hand yourself with the police has a lot to do
with how things are going to go. And there are
good ways to handle yourself and there are not good
ways to handle to yourself. One of the worst things
I think you can do is to play the do
you Know who I Am? Card? I mean, provided you
or somebody who can play the do you Know who

(02:20):
I Am? Card I try very hard to. In fact,
I I think at one time I ever kind of
intimated that I knew somebody who might be able to
help me get out of this ticket. He was about
ready to write, and of course they didn't go real well.
I think I learned my lesson on that one. But
we got it on that topic this morning on katrh
and it was based on this incident. This happened in

(02:42):
Rhode Island. This video, I know you're only getting the
audio from it, but if you want to look it up,
this video has gotten over two million views. It's an
assistant attorney general in Rhode Island who with her friend
evidently got involved in trespassing. I don't know how, I
don't know any other details about what it is that

(03:02):
she allegedly did, but she's been charged with trespassing. And
of course she starts trying to tell the police officer
that he can't tap her on the body cam and
he can, and you know, explain all these other things
that I'm an attorney general, you know, you know, trying
to play off like you've got no right to, you know,

(03:24):
to arrest me for something. I'm the I'm in an
attorney general for goodness sake. So here's the audio from
that video. And then we'll continue.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
If I asked you to turn off the bodycam, you
have to turn it off.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
And that's your protocol. She's a lawyer, so she knows, well,
that's bull lawyer stuff. So that's not true. So we
gotta go. No it is, I'm an aging. I'm an aging.
Good for you. Let's start over ding.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Special Assistant Attorney General Devin Hogan, Flanagan, and her friend
Veronica Hannon were charged with willful trespass. Hannah was also
slapped with a disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Rhode Island's
Attorney General says there will be consequences for Hogan flan
again and talk about awkward. He said he made her
watch her rest video with him. The public humiliation Dana.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Well, if there's anything we've learned about the era of
videos is never try to tell people do you not
know who I am? Because it's always going to make it.
It's going to make it worse for you. It will
always make it worse for you. Kate is from Rhode Island.
This is her favorite video in a long time. She
said that the Newport police do not mess.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Around clearly clearly, I mean that officer, no problem dropping
the bomb on her. Was she screaming for her dad?

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Dad?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Is ever heard of screaming for I mean, she just
went into meltdown after that. And of course the biggest
punishment that she'll get is just the public embarrassment of
what happened. But it got us thinking this morning about
you know, excuses that we've tried to make, of ways
we've tried to get out of trouble with the police.
And sometimes, you know, you can say something that actually

(05:24):
helps you get out of trouble, and then sometimes you
can say something that makes it worse. Do you know
who I am? Generally speaking? I would think almost always,
universally would make it worse. I have tried an excuse once,
and I think the excuse was I've got a poop.

(05:45):
What you know, when you're asked the inevitable question by
a police officer, the first question you always get asked
is do you know why I'm stopping you? And probably
the worst thing you can say the officer is no,
I have no idea. Oh, so you don't realize you
were going twenty miles over the speed? Why'd you pay
attention while you drive? So that's the first excuse, is
what I don't I realized I was speaking officer, I'm sorry,

(06:10):
or the officer by say what's the rush, and that's
where they and I guess that's what the officer said
to me. And that's why I really got to go
to the bathroom, is what I said. And I noticed
that once I provided that excuse, once I once I
told the officer that he took extra time writing that ticket.
It's kind of like, it's kind of like, all right,

(06:32):
I'm gonna see if this guy really does have to poop.
If I come back here and he hasn't either wet
his pants or I smell poop, then I'll know that
he was telling me a story. And of course I'm
unless I'm absolutely desperate, I'm not going to do that.
So that didn't work for me either. But we had
a couple of listeners who chimed in on this one.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Hey, Jimmy, it's Cindy from the middle of Houston. I'm
not ashamed to say I have said, as a young
officer stopped me in a very small town, young man,
please don't make me call your mother. And he said,
you don't know my mother. I said, well, I certainly do, missus.

(07:10):
Garcia he didn't realize he had a name tack On.
I'd love to hear some of skoy Mike's excuses.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
Hey, to Terry, this is Jason from Kingwood. This didn't
have to be personally, but it's still a good story.
An old man to stop by a state trooper for speeding.
The trooper tells the old man, if you can come
up with a goodnific excuse, he won't write in my ticket.
The old man thanks for a second, he says, well,
my wife left me about twenty years ago and married

(07:38):
a state trooper. I thought you were the trooper and
you were trying to bring her back. The trooper cutting loops.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
You know, the best time to get stopped by somebody,
by a police officer, by the way, when when you've
been doing a road infraction, is if you can somehow
figure out what the end of their shift is. Of
course you don't know that, right, because I've seen that
happen before where Because there's a lot of paperwork involved
in issuing a ticket. So if they're getting towards the

(08:08):
end of their shift, that's when you usually get the
warning because they don't want to have to deal with
the paperwork, all right, quick little break back with barn
a moment Jimmy Vert Showy and nine fifty KPRC.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
All right, the.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
House, the Texas House, spit it out, Jimmy. The Texas
House has finally passed redistricting. They took the vote yesterday.
It went along party lines, as you would expect it
to go, and it passed without a problem. But once
they had the quorum, they knew that there was nothing
they could do to stop it. So it has passed.
I find it hilarious that Governor Abbott is adding evidently

(09:04):
to the specialist. Well, first of all, let's let me
share this before I move on. And that is the
vote in the Senate and some reaction to it.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Have all members voted.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
Eighty eight and I's fifty two Day's House.

Speaker 9 (09:17):
Bill four passes.

Speaker 8 (09:18):
To engrossments members, it is the intent to the Chair
to adjourn briefly to begin a new legislative day.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
To call remains in place and the doors remain locked.

Speaker 10 (09:26):
There are five new congressional seats that lean Republican. Republicans
think that in twenty twenty six they now have a
better chance to increase their delegation from twenty five to
thirty Republicans from Texas, that's not a guarantee. But over
in California, as you mentioned, Gavin Newsom also vowing to
fight back there. State legislature is working through this process

(09:47):
right now too. This week News Nation, we actually our
colleague Jackie Koppel got to ask him a question today,
Governor Gavin Newsom, basically asking why did he choose this
route of doing the legislature but then also putting it
on the ballot for voters rather than trying to just
do it the Texas way. Apparently he had a couple
of different options. This is what he said about that decision.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
We believe in the fundamental democratic principles. We want to
do it in a democratic way. So it's the most
transparent way, and I think it's the best approach, and
I think it requires if we're going to play, you
fight fire with fire.

Speaker 10 (10:24):
For Texas, this is done now legislature, that's it. If
California does the same thing in their legislature, their battle
really is just beginning because they're now going to need
to do the cell job to voters. That's going to
be tough.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah. Well, and also if California does it, then I'm
going to guess that some more Republican states are going
to redistrict, then they're going to end up with more
red seats in those red states. Anyway, we had Representative
Brian Harrison on the Morning Show today. I'm a player
for you in just a second. But one of the
reasons why I wanted to talk to him is the

(10:55):
punishment aspect of this. Has any punishment really happened for
the Democrats who broke the quorum because and the reason
why I mentioned that is because Governor Abbott is calling
in this second special session for some some other I
guess rules or punishments for you know, for members of

(11:21):
the state legislature that leave in order to break a quorum.
And I'm wondering, why would you bother to do that
if you have already not punished where you could punish.
You have some punishments you could have given, but you
haven't done it. So from this morning's program here is
Representative Brian Harrison. I was wondering last hour, Representative, because

(11:45):
I know the governor in this second session is asking
for new penalties for lawmakers who break the quorum, and
I'm thinking to myself, hang on a second, did we
even bother to enforce the penalties we already had in place.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
You know, it's a good question.

Speaker 11 (12:03):
A lot of people are asking that. Okay, so the
governor last night calls for new penalties to be concocted
and thought about so that maybe in the future, if
another Democrat group thinks about breaking corn, they'll know we're
gonna be serious with them that time. Well, come on,

(12:23):
give me a break. This is a little bit late.
I mean the old saying day late and a dollar short.
I mean it's at least that here. I mean, good grief.
The real punishments would have been things that really would
have hurt the Democrats, primarily adding more seats to the map. Okay,
that would have hurt them. On number two, remember when
Speaker of Borrows made a big deal photo ops about

(12:44):
signing those arrest warrants. Yeah, zero arrest or what about
the governor's own threat, I mean, Governor Abbat said two
almost three weeks ago. Now, if they don't show up
by Monday at three, their seats are gonna be vacated. Yeah,
zero seats have been vacated. Zero Democrats were ever arrested.
There were not any more Republican seats added to the map,
and as as we speak, not one single Democrats parking

(13:07):
spot was even taken away. They're all gonna get paid.
They're gonna get paid in full.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
There is no.

Speaker 11 (13:12):
Fines even been charged against them that they will be
forced to pay, absolutely nothing. So what I would expect,
and we'll see if I'm right on this, who knows.
My guess is will have some kind of like bad
Kabooki punishment theater, you know, in a couple of days,
where the Democrats will have some of their you know,
committee reassigned or committees reassigned, or maybe some chairmanships or

(13:35):
vice chairmanships taken away. But don't fall for that, because
once the special sessions over, the committees are irrelevant, there's
no bills to hear. So there's there's a chance. My
guess is they're gonna come up with some kind of
fake non punishments that they think they can use to
snowball and gaslight the people of the state of Texas
who actually want real tangible things to be done to

(13:55):
these to these rogue Democrats. But if yesterday was any
indication where Republicans almost all of them at the beginning
of the day until myself in the grassroots rates such
hell about this. Almost every Republican in the Texas House
went out of their way to vote with the Democrats
to give Democrats even more time to continue delaying, and
almost doubled the time that we were on the floor yesterday.

(14:16):
It's completely outrageous. But what it proves is that the
Republican leadership and the so called Republican dominated Texas House
of Representatives cares more about appeasing the extremist liberal social
Democrats than they do delivering for the Republican conservative voters
of the.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Great State of Texas.

Speaker 11 (14:32):
And it's time for that to change.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Explain to me, if you can, why this need for appeasement.
They have the power, if they're willing to use it.
What are they worried about? Who are they worried about upsetting?
What are they afraid that Texas Democrats will do to
them if they punish them? Well?

Speaker 11 (14:50):
And number one, I mean, most of these Republicans are
actually very liberal themselves, so it's not like they're they
want to be conservative, but they're fearful of the Democrats
and they're fearful of consequences. I mean, I bet, I
bet close to a full third of these Republicans of
the Texas House would be Democrats, okay, if they could be,
if they could be honest about it. So it's not
like we have very many conservative Republicans.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
In the Texas House.

Speaker 11 (15:10):
Because in the state of Texas, it's a great thing
about living here, you can't You don't really have good
luck getting elected if you run as a Democrat. So
pretty much everybody who runs for office runs pretending to
be a conservative Republican is going to take the fight
to those liberal Democrats.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
But the reality is they're.

Speaker 11 (15:27):
Every bit as liberal as the Democrats that they pretend
to fight. And so that's what I've been trying since
I got elected four years ago. After serving in the
first Trump administration. I could nothing could have prepared me
for the shock of learning that Texas is actually not
run by real Republicans. Texas is run by a coalition
of Democrats and Rhinos. And I tell people all the
time that the sooner you've learned and in Texas government,

(15:49):
Republicans and Democrats are not actually on different sides, the
sooner Texas makes sense to you the government because what
we have down here is we have two factions in
the Texas government. We have big government liberals who call
themselves Democrats, and we have big government liberals who call
themselves Republicans. And then that's the paradigm that we've got

(16:10):
to change.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Texas.

Speaker 11 (16:11):
Texans re elected President Trump on a fourteen point landslide.
We need to get real Republicans down here who will
actually stand up to the left and make and prioritize
protecting liberty for the next generation of Texans their top priority.
And that's why as soon as we passed the maps yesterday,
I tweeted the very second the map pass moot got
it plus five seats. Let's go now on to the
one thing we've got to do that we haven't done yet,

(16:33):
and focus all of our efforts and attention on eliminating
property taxes in the state of Texas, because never ending,
unethical property taxes have got to be abolished. Not one
single Texan is allowed to own their home, and it's
wreaking havoc on lives across our country. And it's the
biggest failure of the regular Sessions that we did absolutely
nothing to eliminate or even cut property taxes. And the

(16:57):
reality is, unless something, unless the grassroots rise up I
think the Austin Uniparty is going to do their usual
tricks and pass quote property tax relief bills that will
do nothing more than increase your property tax bill at
the end of the year. And I'm trying to get
ahead of that right now out and let the leadership
of the state of Texas know that their usual song
and dance and gas lining about fake property property tax

(17:20):
relief built is not good enough any war. Well, I hope,
I hope he's successful with that. I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna hold by breath. You know that is revenue.
I think that you're you're The only way you get
rid of property taxes is if you come up with
some other tax uh in order to appease government. Not
that we should, but that's that's the only way I

(17:43):
can see the legislature going along with complete elimination of
property taxes. But I agree, you know that the that'd
be a great thing to do, get rid of the
property tax here in Texas. Imagine no income tax and
no property tax. Can you imagine how that would impact you?
You think our state is huge now and growing, man,
watch the growth after that?

Speaker 9 (18:04):
All right?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Quick, A little break we'll be right back. Jimmy Bartt
Show here on AM nine fifty KPRC. Are talking about
education here on AM nine fifty KPRC, and we're going

(18:26):
to talk about teachers. Let's start with teachers. Oklahoma's doing
something very, very interesting. They are testing incoming teachers right now.
It's teachers from blue states like California and New York because,
like other parts of the South, they're seeing a big
influx of people moving into their states to get away

(18:47):
from high taxes and high home prices and all those
types of things to find a more affordable way of life. Unfortunately,
they also seem to bring, at least in some cases,
their ideology with them. So to protect themselves in Oklahoma,
they're testing these incoming teachers for ideology. Doctor Carol Hanes
joins us. She's a great educator here in the great

(19:07):
state of Texas. Doctor Haynes. First of all, I know
you like the idea of testing for ideology, but how
do you do it in a way that you know
that you're getting real answers from the people you're asking
the questions of.

Speaker 9 (19:20):
We don't know that we're going to get exact answers
from these people. Because they're going to be memorizing these questions.
But we can always put more questions in there, and
that that would be a little bit more difficult. I
mean this morning I saw five of them that were
put into into the print. So we have to watch
them in the classroom. We have to fire them if

(19:43):
they are teaching any ideology. They don't have the right
to be doing that. They're they're paid by taxpayer money.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Okay, can you think of just out of curiosity, can
you think of a question that you could that you
could include for an ideology test that may maybe wouldn't
be completely obvious of why you're asking that question, but
would give you a really good idea of what the
ideology is of the teacher you're asking the question to.

Speaker 9 (20:10):
Oh, Jimmy, I'm gonna have to think about that for
a minute.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I'm thinking like, for example, you could ask you could
probably ask a question about the founding fathers. You could
like say, George Washington is the first person of the
United States. He is best known for, and then you
can list things like being the father of our country, uh,
leading the United States and victory in the American Revolution,

(20:35):
having slaves. If you got somebody picks having slaves, then
you know what their priority is. Right.

Speaker 9 (20:43):
If we put in a question about George Washington as
a founding father, there are several things that he's noted for,
But if we put in that he's noted for having slaves,
the typical person who is not a liberal is not
going to answer that because that was never an issue
with George Washington. So ways say answer slave. We know

(21:04):
that that's a high priority for them. They're going to
be using that in the classroom to teach a children
negative American history.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
You know, I know, neither one of us are an
expert when it comes to employment law. I'm just I'm
kind of wondering from the standpoint of legality here, if
you can, as a school system get away with asking
questions like that, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know?

Speaker 9 (21:30):
If we take it a step further, our state and
federal law makers and our military are required to take
an oath of public constitution. Yet it is teachers who
are responsible for instilling our history and founding values into
future generous of Americans. They help to shape world views
and values of the children who will either learn to

(21:51):
love America or to hate America. To understand the importance
of religion or nations. So why are we not requiring
that all teach take an oath of COVID Constitution in
America's first value. I don't see how this is a
problem with fo system saying that it is illegal to
do this. These are people who are hired through taxpayer

(22:14):
moneies to teach our children. They're an education, a foundation
of academics, not a foundation of leftist ideologies.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, do you think we should maybe test all teachers,
including here in Texas. You want to be a teacher
here in Texas, we need to We need to know
where you stand. We need to know how much of
your politics are going to creep into the classroom, because
you could have somebody who technically is is a liberal,
but it plays it down the middle and is fair

(22:43):
and doesn't talk about politics or give their political opinion
about issues in the classroom, and then you have others
who can't wait to do it.

Speaker 9 (22:51):
I think we should teach, not excuse me. I think
we should test not only the people coming from the outside,
but all teachers across the board in Texas. I think
we should go further. I think we should cross board
all through America. We should test all teachers who are
going to be teaching our future voters.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Okay, let me ask you a couple other things having
to do with the world of education too, doctor Carrol Haynes.
One of them has to do with cell phones in
the classroom. I saw a very interesting story. I know
here in Texas now we have basically outlawed your children
having cell phones in the classroom. I don't know how
that's going over with parents. I know there's a lot
of helicopter moms out there that are very upset that

(23:35):
they might not be able to get a hold of
their child at any given moment of the day, including
in the middle of the classroom. But I think we
have enough evidence to show, don't we that cell phones
are highly distracting in the classroom.

Speaker 9 (23:48):
We do have a lot of evidence. And in fact,
if you go back a future generation, Jimmy, when we
didn't have cell phones in the classroom, we didn't have
all of those distractions and helicopter or moms or not,
how did our parents get hold of us? Then it
was never an issue whether or not they could talk
to the children, see the children, if the children were safe.

(24:10):
It's just an issue. Now it's just a cultural issue now,
so the songs need to be taken out of the classroom,
regardless of what helicopter moms worry about.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
I agree. Hey, here's a quote, by the way, i'll
get your reaction to this. This is from a history
teacher in Alabama, and i'll quote him from an article
I saw in USA today. He said, today, all of
my students, one hundred percent of them, took notes of
my class, did their assignment, asked for help when they
got stuck, and turned it in. And then when we

(24:42):
were done, they talked to each other, which obviously they
weren't doing. But before they go on their phones, they
weren't talking. They weren't talking to each other. That's the
other thing I think a lot of us have noticed
with young people is they have a very difficult time
sometimes having one on one conversations, especial with adults, because
they don't they don't talk to each other. They text

(25:05):
each other all day.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
They text each other even if they're sitting next to
each other, almost in a lunch room. So we have
to say, what's the difference. And yes, they are talking.
And I have seen those articles you're talking about, and
the students are more attendant. They're more engaged, and they
are they have a better social life because they're communicating

(25:29):
with their friends and with their teachers.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Y'all. I want to ask you too about turnover, because
we seem to be going through a lot of turnovers,
especially at the high school level right now, and I
hear a lot of complaints from teachers who are just
they're upset about a variety of things. Number One, I
think the most thing they're most upset about is they
don't feel like they're getting back by the administration of
the school system, especially when it comes to dealing with

(25:53):
unrually students. We've kind of got to the point with
teachers where we haven't given them many tools to keep
control of their classroom, and that's very frustrating for teachers.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
I hear this from teachers that they have no control whatsoever,
that the students are really in charge, that the teachers
can't do anything, they can't send them to the principal's office,
they can't really do anything to keep the children under control.
That's not going to change until we have the administration,

(26:26):
till we have the public who're saying we are going
to give those teachers a power to control that classroom. Yes,
teachers are leaving. The other day, I was giving a
speech in another city in Texas. Someone came up to
me afterwards and that I retired in twenty nineteen and
they want me to come back. They continue to call me.

(26:46):
She said, there is no way.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Well, and that's how you end up with so many
young teachers in the classroom, so many inexperienced teachers in
the classroom. Right, You've got the veteran ones that can retire,
the ones that are vested leave leave early, and then
you have to replace them with young people that don't
have a lot of experience.

Speaker 9 (27:04):
Not only don't they have a lot of experience, they
have been through the radical left teacher colleges and they
themselves don't say more than five years. They usually are
leaving after that. But yes, they're not experienced. And if
we've did what Finland did, we would teach children instead
of taking them through the College of education, we would

(27:27):
put them through their own fields. Like mine is music.
I went totally into music. If you're totally into math,
instead of going through the College of education, then in
Finland they are they brought in as an apprentice and
they learn to teach. Then they're just not thrown in
the classroom the way we throw them in now and

(27:47):
say think or swim.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, well, obviously we got love and purpose to make
if we're ever going to get our education system where
it needs to be. Doctor Haynes, thank you so much
for your time today. I sure to appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (27:58):
Thank you, my pleasure you been Education.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Expert, Doctor Carol Haynes. Back with Borne momat Jimmy Barrett Show,
AM nine fifty KPRC Happy Thursdays. All of our truck

(28:23):
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rush hour. Don't you think trying to drive a truck
in rush hour in Houston, Texas. Because you've got traffic
whizzing all around you, you're limited as far as how

(28:46):
fast you can go. Everybody's mad at you because you're
going too slow. You can't go in the passing lane
even if you're willing to go fast. Although some I
must say this, I see some trucks in the far
left hand lane, in the past lane, you shouldn't be
over there. But for the most part, I think we
can all agree that, you know, truck drivers do a

(29:06):
difficult job and without them, I mean, Lord knows, we
wouldn't have our goods and services getting where they need
to be without the effort of truck drivers. That having
been said, there are some truck drivers, and I think
we have some here in Houston for whom English is
the second language. I've talked to truckers before and they said, yeah,

(29:26):
we've got a lot of guys who are from Mexico
or Honduras or some other you know, South American countries.
In some cases they speak Spanish, they know some English,
but they have a difficult time communicating. So my question
would be, if you've got a truck driver who has
a difficult time speaking English, are we making sure they

(29:50):
can read English? Because how are you supposed to follow
the laws of the road if you can't read the
road signs. I would think that'd be a problem. Though
streets are not gonna problem because the street name is
the street name. But then I guess most signs, I mean,
they have universal symbols for them. I think we all
like to you may Spanish word for stop. I don't
even know off the top of my head, but I'm

(30:12):
guessing that if you saw a red stop sign and
you know that's a stop sign. But there are other
areas that a little bit more nuanced. And if you
are somebody who's here illegally who has a CDL license,
that's a problem. And it doesn't happen here in Texas
at le as far as I know, but it is
happening in places like Washington in California where illegal aliens

(30:36):
are getting CDL licenses to drive trucks. In the case
of this particular accident that occurred in Florida, we're talking
about an illegal alien from California who was driving in
the state of Florida, made an illegal U turn, got
involved in an accident as a result of that that

(30:57):
killed three people. He is here illegally, that's a crime.
He doesn't speak English, so it's reasonable to expect that
there are some things about the rules of the roads
that he maybe does not understand. So how do you
get a CDL license? Ron decentis the governor well Florida,

(31:19):
senda his lieutenant governor while let him explain the rest
of it. Send his lieutenant governor to extradite this guy.
He's going back to Florida to face chargers. Here's Governor
Ron Decentis.

Speaker 12 (31:27):
We had a terrible thing happen in Saint Lucie County
where you had an illegal alien who was driving this
big tractor truck and decided to try to do a
U turn where they have the official use only these
are little gaps in the highway for highway patrol and
law enforcement, and was obviously a total disaster to even

(31:50):
try that. You had a car coming that ran into
it and three Floridians were killed. This was somebody that
was issued that CDL actually in two different states, Washington
State in in California and should have never obviously been
behind the wheel. Doesn't even speak English. You know, you
got it. If you want to drive, you got to
know the road signs and stuff. And it's just the reality.

(32:13):
So it was a really horrible thing. He at the
time there was not any eyewitnesses. He didn't speak English,
so they got the all the facts they could. But
then when they got the videotape they saw so immediately
he was to t he he fled to California, obviously
sanctuary state. He was able to be detained in California.

(32:34):
And so today I'm sending Florida's new Lieutenant Governor, Jay
Collins to California, and tomorrow morning he is going to
take possession of this illegal alien, extradite him back to
the state of Florida, and we're going to throw the
book at him when he gets back here for what
he did. So you can count on that.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Do you think, by the way, do you think it
should be mandatory that you are able because all of
our all of our road signs are in English, right,
should you be required to take an English proficiency test
in addition to your driver's test or better yet, no,
you don't even have to do that. Here's what you do.

(33:16):
You do not make the driver's test available in Spanish.
You make it available or any other foreign language. English only.
We do not issue driver's licenses to people who don't
speak the language that all the road signs are in.
Now I know what the excuse is going to be.
The excuse is going to be there are plenty of
people out there who who can who can be taught

(33:38):
the rules of the road without knowing the English language. Okay,
but yeah, they get stopped by a police officer. How
are they going to communicate with the police officer. Are
we going to put the onus on the police for
all the police department to be bilingual or the heck
with bilingual is not just Spanish speakers. It could be
French speakers, other languages, Portuguese, you know, you could have

(34:00):
anybody from anywhere. It seems to me that you ought
to have at least a working knowledge of English, in
the ability to read English in order to be able
to be issued a driver's license. If we're going to
do it the right way now, you're never going to
get California, at least in its current form, to go
along with something like that. But it seems to me
that we should be willing to do something like that
in Texas. And as long as we're out at the

(34:20):
other thing at the DMV is, let's let's stop handing
out voter registration forms to people who cannot prove that
they are citizen in the United States? Can we also
do that because that might save some problems with voting.
You don't want you don't want people to have a

(34:41):
voter ID. Well, how about if we don't register people
to vote who are not eligible to vote. But the
DMV doesn't do that, do they just hand out the forms.
They don't. They don't bother to police any of this stuff.
They just hand out the forms. Well, if we change
some of that, we can maybe save a lot of problems.
All right, listen, y'all have a great day. Thank you

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