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Today on the Jimmy Barrett Show:

• Pickax CEO Jeff Dornik on social media and the messaging around Charlie Kirk

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
All right, We're gonna start with black helicopters. Black helicopters. Well,
I don't know if they were black or not. To
be honest with you, they were military helicopters and they've
been flying over Houston for the last couple of days now.
I didn't really notice them. I don't know if you
noticed them or not. I didn't really notice them. Of course,
I'm out in the suburbs and uh. Although I will
say this, but this is going back to last weekend.

(00:54):
I'm not sure when this started. I know it ends today,
but I'm not sure when this starts. Spots Supposedly this
is some sort of an exercise involving the US military
and Houston Police Department. I'm not quite sure what that's
all about. I don't know if this is ice related,
this is just some sort of a normal training kind

(01:14):
of thing, or if there's something else going on, or
what the story is. It sounds like it's a little
bit on the secretive side, as most of these things
usually are. But I do recall, I want to say,
last Sunday hearing what sounded like several helicopters flying low

(01:35):
over my house in Spring. You know, I'm almost to
the woodlands, so I guess that could be them. But
I heard this noise, and I'm going, what the heck?
But by the time I got outside, I didn't see anything,
didn't hear anything anymore. I have no idea what that
was all about. Maybe that had something to do with
those military helicopters, but a lot of people have been,

(01:57):
if not alarmed by them, the very least very curious
about what in the world is going on. So they
did a report on it finally yesterday on our television
partner KPRC two. Here is that report.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
There it is. Amanda Anderson sent us this video to
our KPRC to help desk at about ten last night.
She says multiple helicopters flew over her home. First, there
were three helicopters with green and red light. She says
they rattled her windows and minutes later, she says four
more helicopters flew over, asking what are they doing? Who
are they? The Houston Police Department posted this to X

(02:33):
earlier this month. It reads called the Department of Defense,
in coornation with the Houston Police Department and other local
and federal law enforcement agencies, is conducting training in the
city of Houston through September nineteenth. It continues, saying residents
may hear noise or see helicopters in the day and
evening hours during these exercises. This type of collaboration training

(02:56):
between local, state, and federal partners is very common. As
we continue to work to provide the best service to
the public. We are reaching out to HBD to gather
more information for you. But after some digging this morning,
we've also learned here at Smith Elementary School it has
closed down. So of course there are also questions for
the district what exactly is going on. Even though HBD

(03:20):
is saying this kind of training is very common, again
that training is expected to wrap up by September nineteenth.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
And that's that, of course, is today okay, so what
are they doing there? I don't know. I don't know
the answer and I'm surprised if it's just just a
normal training thing. Why is it that we didn't hear
anything ahead of time. You would have thought they would
have given the media some sort of an alert so

(03:50):
that we could alert our listeners and our viewers to
make sure that you knew that this was going on.
And it was just just a training exercise, no big deal.
And what's with closing the elementary school? That's I don't know,
something something missing from this story. All right, So another
story today for those of us who have a car,
and at our house, we have three long story, but

(04:13):
all three are a different color.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I see these stories every now and again about what
cars have the better resale value based on color, and
this one is a little bit surprising. The car color
that holds its value the best is orange and yellow.
What Now, I have a theory about this because I

(04:40):
can't imagine an suv and orange or yellow. Maybe a
pickup truck and orange, but not a pickup truck and yellow.
So I'm guessing the reason why those two colors are
holding their resale value the best is because those are
the colors you usually see on sports cars, convertibles, luxury

(05:03):
sports cars, in particular. That's my theory. Anyway, I guess
I could probably ask around a few car dealers and
see what they say, but i'd be almost be willing
to bet. You know, you're talking about Corvettes, and you're
talking about Lamborghinis, and you're talking about you know, McLaren's
and and and those kinds of vehicles which are really

(05:24):
super expensive. Those are the ones that you get into
exotic colors, and those are likely, I would assume, to
hold their value better than your typical suv or sedan
that anybody else would buy. But according to this website
icecars dot com, yellow is number one, followed by orange, Green, beige,

(05:47):
and red, all holding their value better than silver, although
silver is pretty close to red. Brown. Yeah, who wants
a brown car, especially poop brown car? Gray? That surprises
me a little bit. Gray, well, I guess you know,
I've seen the ones that are kind of like the

(06:08):
battleship Gray. Not a big fan of those. Blue. You
would think blue would hold his value pretty well. Black,
I mean, how can you go wrong with black? Well,
the only thing about black is is that it shows
all the dirt, So it's really hard when a black
vehicle is really clean and shined up. It looks great,
but when it gets dirty, not so much. White. Now,

(06:29):
think of how many vehicles we have here in Texas
that are white as for a practical reason, it's hot
as hades, it's hot as can be. White doesn't absorb
the heat the way you know darker colors do. So
you're going to see a lot more white vehicles here
than you are some of these other colors. Gold was
the one, however, that was far and away the worst

(06:51):
color as far as retaining its value. Okay, all right,
what do we have at ours? We have a silver,
a pewter, which is just a dark silver, and my
big red pickup truck, Candy Apple red pickup truck. So
I guess, yeah, I would think that most of those

(07:11):
colors are pretty neutral, right. As one of those colors
you either like it or you don't like it. But
the other one is the silver. That's why I'm surprised
that silver didn't hold his value better because silver just
strikes me as just, you know, kind of generic, and
you know, it's it's got more color than white, but
it's not something that it goes with everything kind of thing.
Not that anybody you are trying to match up your
vehicles to your outfits. All right, we're gonna take a

(07:33):
little break. We're gonna talk a little more about the
whole The Jimmy Kimmel thing is just getting out of control.
And the Jimmy Kimmel thing is just a perfect example
right now of the difference between the right and the
left and how everybody's viewing this thing. More on that
story coming up next, Jimmy Barrett Show, Happy Friday, AM
nine fifty KPRC. All right, Jimmy Kimmel remains a big story.

(08:10):
I saw some protesters out in California today on TV.
You would be shocked as some of the signs though,
I mean, because they're all using it as an opportunity
to fire Trump. The bunch of fire Trump hired Jimmy
fire Trump signs. The other most popular sign I'm seeing
is Jimmy didn't say anything wrong. He said the shooter

(08:32):
was maga. How could you be any more wrong than that?
And here's the thing I think that's important to say
about the whole Jimmy Kimmel firing. It really wasn't ABC Disney.
I mean, technically, yeah, they definitely suspended him, but it's
really not them, it's the affiliates. Because you have two
major affiliate groups who decided they weren't going to air

(08:55):
the show anymore, and you start losing up hundreds of
stations that won't air the show, won't clear the show
in some cases major markets. You've got a problem. I mean,
they're already losing money from an advertising standpoint, they are
getting clocked in the ratings, and then you lose affiliates.
What other choice do you have as a company. Even

(09:15):
if you aren't, you know, absolutely incensed by what the
guy said on your airwaves, you at least have to
understand the financial implications of what it is that he did.
But here's a couple of things from yesterday. You've got
President Trump in the United Kingdom being asked about Jimmy

(09:35):
Kimmel's firing. You also have Jesse Waters talking about it.
And in addition to that, you have some of the
Democrat reaction.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad ratings more
than anything else, and he said a horrible thing about
a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk. And Jimmy Kimmel
is not a talented person. He had very bad ratings
and they should have fired him a long time ago.

Speaker 8 (09:57):
So wh i'd kimmelll get benched? He falsely framed you
for killing Charlie. Almost half of ABC's affiliates were threatening
to black out his show that night. Advertisers were burning.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Up the phones.

Speaker 8 (10:11):
ABC executives were getting flooded with emails. Disney boss Bob
Iger wanted Kimmel to apologize, but Kimmel said, no way, Bob.

Speaker 9 (10:21):
Jimmy wanted to go on his show last night, and
in his monologue, I hear that he wanted to address
the backlash from the right regarding his commentary about Charlie
Kirk's charged killer. And I hear that that monologue was
very hot. It very much took aim at MAGA. And
that is when the executives said, we can't have him

(10:42):
go on the air tonight.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Little Jimmy Kimmel thought he was bigger than Disney, bigger
than Mickey Mouse. Charlie Kirk's body isn't even buried, and
ABC affiliates are refusing to air his show. They're on
the brink of an advertiser boycott. And this guy's not
even in first place. And he says well, let's go
another round. So the boss said, take a breather, Jimmy,

(11:04):
you're costing us a fortune and making us look like
we don't have a conscience after the biggest assassination since
Martin Luther King, the face of your network. Can't lie
about the shooting and pin it on MAGA sounds like
an easy call to me. Well, the left thinks America
as a country is finished.

Speaker 10 (11:24):
This is a major moment in American history, and this
is a crossing of the rubicon.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
There nabido democracy to save a year from now.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
This is a red alert moment.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
If you're not paying attention now and doing something about it,
well then you're gonna have to sit down the rest
of your life because democracy is being taken away.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Free speech, free speech, Yeah, everybody wants to scream about
free speech. There is no free speech at work. I mean,
how many of us have seen people behaving badly at work?
Get it this, They can get fired. We all have
at some point in time in our careers. Right. That's
what happened to Jimmy Kimmel. You know, he thought he

(12:06):
could say anything he wanted without any sort of retribution.
And you can do on you can go on your
own podcast, or you can you know, you can write
the local paper, or you can There's all kinds of
ways that you can express your freedom of speech that
you know, basically no one can do anything about. But
your employer always has something to say about this. Here's

(12:28):
Joe Consha talking about that aspect of the story.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
You are representing a brand, and when that brand is
toxic in the case of Jimmy Kimmel Live, then that
employer has a right to say, I don't want to
pay you fifteen million dollars anymore. And when people say, well,
Jimmy kimmel'speech has been taken away, No it hasn't. He
can start a podcast just like Don Lemon and Joy
Reid and Jim Acosta have from his kitchen and say
whatever he wants. But this was a last straw moment

(12:54):
for Disney, Liz, for ABC, for those affiliates next door
in Sinclair. This was such a disgusting lie about the
shooter of a father of two young children, a husband,
the only son of a mom and dad.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Here are the questions.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Was Kimmel losing millions for Disney?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Was Kimmel a pr nightmare?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Where affiliates like Sinclair and Nextstar finally fed up after
Kimmel blatantly lied about Charlie Shooter. Yes, so from a
business perspective, this was a no brainer because think about it,
it's not about free speech. This is about the free market,
supply and demand. The supply, in Kimmel's case was toxic.
The demand was almost non existent. You showed the ratings
there before a very distant third. Oftentimes Greg Gutfeld would

(13:34):
double and triple his audience despite having like one to
twentieth the resources. So this is how you become a
next late night host. And for those other networks CNN,
MSNBC and all these Democrats saying that this is an
attack on free speech, you clearly don't know how capitalism
works and how branding works. And for Disney, you can't
have a person like that who's almost subhuman in the

(13:54):
things that he said over the years, wishing death on people,
for example that didn't get the vaccine, said in twenty
twenty one, wished death on Mike Pence after he got
the vaccine, says just drink chlorox and call to Day.
And this is someone who mocked President Trump on Wednesday,
nun also when he said, this is not how an
adult grieves the murder of somebody called a friend.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
This is how a.

Speaker 10 (14:13):
Four year old mourns a goldfish.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's utterly vile to say that Trump was mourning his
friend and he mocks that. Again to Steven A. Smith's point,
where's the joke, because you know, I'm not seeing it
or hearing it.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, well, none of it's very funny, is it. And
that's you know, that's the bottom line. But Jimmy Kimmel,
was he really funny? I don't think a whole lot
of people thought he was very funny. All right, let's
get the last word on this and talk with with
this from this morning show today, Tim Graham from MRC Communications.
So it's not just Jimmy Kimmel, huh. Now, we've got

(14:46):
this podcast done by a couple of couple of clowns
that worked for the Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper who are
also making the claim that the Utah shooter was a conservative.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
It is crazy. It's crazy on its face. Why would
a Trump fan shoot Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
They wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
So, yeah, I mean it's sort of like, you know,
Dorothy strangled the scarecrow.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
What exactly? Well, yeah, clearly they're playing to a certain audience.
Do they believe somehow deep inside that the propaganda that
they're trying to give us works.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Well, it's rather shameless. It's shameless, it's reckless, and it's
dramatically insensitive. You know, half of the country is morning this,
at least half the country. You know, this is sadly
the way that these stories develop. We start by being
shocked and horrified by it, and after about forty eight hours,

(15:51):
then suddenly it becomes well, you're lying about it.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know, why would you lie about it?

Speaker 6 (15:56):
I mean, it's but you know, this is the whole
problem is that it came obvious pretty clearly once they
nabbed the shooter and he has bullet casings that say
catch this fascist or whatever. Everybody could figure out where
this guy was coming from. And yet these people are
utterly in denial. They're either sort of in this confusing

(16:19):
middle where they're like, well, we don't know, we have
no idea, we haven't figured out yet what he is
when it's quite obvious. And then of course when they
had this press conference and really laid it out, we
should be obvious to everyone, and you.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Would have thought the trans boyfriend would have been enough
to make you go, Okay, I can't really get away
with lying about this. Dude's got a trans boyfriend.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Well, and then you know, we had this bizarre thing
where ABC's Matt Gutman said it was very touching the
text he sent, and he sort of turned it into
a romance novel of I Must Protect You, my love.
Charlie Kirk wasn't threatening anyone's life, you know. It's just
the way that these people take an event that was

(17:05):
so shocking and send it into some crazy kaleidoscope. I
just don't get it.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Well, I don't pretend to get it either, But it continues,
tim and it obviously it will continue. The thing I
find the interesting is sort of the progression on the
progressive far left here they've gone from, you know, before,
especially in the mainstream media, if they didn't like something,
they just wouldn't report it. I guess this story was
so big they couldn't figure out how they just wouldn't
report it.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
Well, and in the case of Kimmel being suspended, it
sort of fits the kind of story they love, because
this is the way they're doing it. It's not Jimmy
Kimmel shamelessly lies. It's Donald Trump fired Jimmy Kimmel. That's
the way that they've created it. And so they're going
to talk about this. They're obsessing, the cable networks are

(17:55):
obsessing over this, like Jimmy Kimmel was murdered. It's it's
really bizarre, but they all have this self righteous thing about, oh,
the authoritarian playbook, fascism descends, and when you give them
Christ for that, they're going to do that twenty four
to seven.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Well, and they're all worried about their own jobs. But
at the end of the day, it really wasn't ABC
Disney that fired Jimmy Kimmel. It was the affiliates. There
was a mass exodus of affiliates who said we're not
going to air the show. They weren't given the choice.
If there hadn't been this big affiliate of mutiny, if
you will, I don't know that ABC Disney would have
done a dog gone thing.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
About it, right, because he's been doing this for ten
years now. You know, as our President David Bosell mentioned yesterday,
the real firing offense could have been him saying during
COVID that if there's any problem about who to admit
at the emergency room, the vaccinated can come right in

(18:55):
and the unvaccinated can go die.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
See you, weezy.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
You know that's the kind of statement that should be
beyond the pale. But you know ABC didn't touch him then,
I mean, you're right. Obviously, when a big chunk of stations,
the next Star stations and the Sinclair stations say we're
not going to air this crap anymore, they didn't really have.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Much of a choice.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
No, they really didn't. Like I said, when it came
right down to it, it wasn't ABC Disney doing anything noble.
It was all about the dollars and cents all right,
back with more of the moments stick around, Happy Friday,
Jimmy Bart Show here on AM nine to fifty KPRC.

(19:52):
Jeff Dordak joys us. Jeff is the founder and CEO
of Pickax. It's a groundbreaking social media platform built on
two uncompromised principles, freedom of speech and freedom of reach,
which is a slightly different than most of the social
media these days. Jeff, good to have you on the program.
I want to I want to pick your brain here

(20:12):
what we're seeing on social media right now, especially when
it comes to videos of people. I guess you could
say they're expressing their freedom of speech, but some of
these Charlie Kirk videos we're seeing are just amazingly despicable.

Speaker 10 (20:26):
Yeah, you know, it's it's crazy, especially when we're looking at,
you know, what happened with Charlie Kirk, and when you're
dealing with a guy that was just assassinated, and then
you see people literally posting videos celebrating and saying some
of the most despicable, horrible things, and you're just sitting
here and you're like, what is going through their mind

(20:46):
that they think that this kind of thing is appropriate. Well,
what's interesting is if you take if you take a
step back, and you think about all of the propaganda
that these guys have been fed up to this point.
They've been told that Donald Trump is Hitler, they've been
told that Charlie Kirk and conservatives are Nazis. So would
you if you get into their mindset? Then all of

(21:09):
a sudden, then you start realizing, well, wait a second,
would what would I do if I found myself in
Germany during the Adolf Hitler Nazi days? Like, I think
a lot of people would feel justified in taking out Hitler.
So now all of a sudden, you have all of
these people that you wonder why they're saying this, how
despicable they are? Well, yeah, because they've been brainwashed. They've

(21:30):
been propagandas for years and years and years thinking that
conservatives and Charlie Kirk specifically is a Nazi. So of
course they feel justified in their view. So who's to blame?
What the mainstream media, even big tech, who helped to
propagate a lot of these ideologies and a lot of
this propaganda. This is the problem that we're facing right now,

(21:51):
is that people hate us, but because they believe the
lie about us and they think that we're nothing more
than a bunch of us really.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
So it's the problem that they've been more effective than
we have been in getting that message out about who
we really are or have we not fought back enough?
Are are we?

Speaker 10 (22:13):
Are?

Speaker 4 (22:13):
We just not reaching them in the platforms under which
they spend their time. What's the answer to this?

Speaker 10 (22:20):
So there are several different facets to this, but honestly,
a lot a lot of I put I put at
the feet of the big tech company so you know, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
all of that, because what they started doing is they
started implementing algorithms, and it really it really ramped up
about October of twenty twenty one. And so what interned

(22:40):
up happening is is everybody started getting siloed off into
their own little echo chambers. And so so what you
would see is people post, and then as you post,
then they would kind of, you know, use the algorithms
in order to show you more content of what you like,
which means that you're very rarely going to be challenged
by an opposing point of view of social media or

(23:00):
in Google searches or you know, fill in the blank.
So what happens then is that if you're going through
life where you're not your ridiculous opinion is not being challenged,
then you're instead you're being cheered on by a bunch
of cheerleaders because they all agree with you. So what
happens naturally, then you start getting more extreme and more
extreme because you're never meeting that threshold of like a

(23:23):
little bit of pushback, Oh there's my line, and so
when that happens, things get out of control. So in
all reality, for conservatives, you know, we haven't been able
to reach them because we physically can't because of the
way that these tech companies are set up. And so
I think that that's a huge part of the problem
is that neither side really faces a whole lot of

(23:46):
pushback on the day to day because you're just surrounded
by a bunch of cheerleaders because of the way that
the algorithms and the platforms are set up.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Is this working its way on both sides though, Jeff,
I mean, as a conservative, am I just basically because
of algorithms, am I suggest seeing people who agree with
me for the most part, just like the progressives are
seeing people who agree with them for the most part,
and therefore there is no real discourse going back and forth.

Speaker 10 (24:11):
I would say in general, yes, So if you're looking
at at at the content in your in your news feed,
the majority of it is going to be based upon
the kind of the kind of content that you like
and that you engage with on social media. So you know,
if if you're constantly liking Charlie Kirk videos and Turning
Point videos and Donald Trump videos, they're going to show
you more of that, which you know in theory, you

(24:32):
know they're trying to sell ads and they're trying to
give you what you want. It makes sense, but the
problem is that there's ramification that we need to see
more opposing viewpoints, that we get the full picture and
be able to take a little bit of time to
self reflect and look at what I believe and say,
do I need to reevaluate my position based upon this
new information that the other side is putting out there.

(24:54):
But we never we never get the chance to actually
experience that because you know, we're we're rarely challenged in
our positions.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Well, you know, and that explains the social media aspect
of it. But I have to also wonder about the
just the general morality, the parenting. Uh, there are places
to get feedback when you are saying something that just
doesn't make sense. There's something that's way out there. You
may not be getting pushed back on social media, but
you would be getting For example, we're finding out that

(25:25):
there are a lot of employers out there who are
saying whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. You know, we've
got teachers who are being let go because of some
of the despicable things they're saying, and they're shocked, they're
shocked that they're being let go because, as you say,
they're not used to hearing anybody oppose their view. They
think that everybody thinks the way they do.

Speaker 10 (25:45):
Yeah, point, And I think also there's another there's another
angle to this as well, where when you think about
it as conservatives, conservatives we have foundational principles, and this
is something that Charlie Kirk talked a lot about. You know,
we have the Constitution that's set up principles that we
have certain inalienable rights. They're given to us by God.

(26:06):
They cannot be taken away by the government. We all,
you know, as Christians, we have we have the Bible,
so we have foundational principles that are outside of ourselves,
that are given to us by God. The left they're
anti God, They're anti foundational principle. They don't believe in
foundational principles. They don't believe in God, so which means
that by definition, they don't believe that we have analienable rights.

(26:28):
They are given to us by God, they cannot be
taken away by the government, So we can begin to
have an atheistic, anti God worldview. Then all of a sudden,
it makes sense that the left doesn't actually have principles.
To them, oftentimes, it's the end justify the means, and
to them, there isn't really there isn't really a whole
lot of morality except what's right in my own eyes.

(26:50):
And so when we look at the way that they're behaving,
they're they're behaving this way because they don't believe that
they are anything more than animals. They don't have value
by being somebody created in the image of God, as
our founding fathers explicitly stated. They don't see that that
there's value in human life. To them, it's just whatever
I have to do to get more power in this life,

(27:12):
right here, right now, and that's the ending. The ends
justify the means.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
If if, if there is no God, it is very
easy to be evil, is what you're saying.

Speaker 10 (27:22):
Yeah, yeah, because because it's not. If you go I
just saw a video this morning of Joe Rogan talking
to Matthew McConaughey, and they were talking about the Ten
Commandments and schools, and Joe Grogan's like, let's pull up
the Ten Commandments and let's look at it. Let's see
how we're how how it's been there literally read through
them and they're going, that makes sense. You know, you
had murder, don't kind of don't commit adultery. It's very

(27:44):
basic principles that the left utterly hates. But it's because
they are anti God, which means by definition, they don't
have any foundational principles that are outside of themselves, and
that's the major problem when we're in a free society
like we are.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Now, tell me a little bit about your company, pick As.
Jeff Dornige is the founder and the CEO of Pickax.
Your social media platform is built on freedom of speech
and freedom of a reach. How how do your algorithms,
if you have them, how how are yours different than
what we're seeing on x and Facebook and other social
media sites.

Speaker 11 (28:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (28:20):
Well, honestly, we're kind of taking old school, not back
to the MySpace Twitter days of long ago, where you know,
we're taking the the algorithms out of it that they're
not topic based. So basically what we do is we
just put everything in a chronological feed of people that
you follow on the platform. So you're deciding what's in
your news feed. Uh, you know, there's a there's a

(28:42):
chronological feed there, and then as this engagement it gets
bumped back up to the top. We are not doing
like a topic based, you know, algorithm that forces particular
views or whatever on you. But then where you can
really get into a whole bunch of different posting views
is that you have we have our trending tab, we
have our recommended tab where you different things that may

(29:02):
be topic based or if like on our platform, you
can write an article and then underneath the article we'll
have recommendations of other articles that are on a similar
topic to what you just read. So if you want
more information or another point of view, you can just
look right there. So there's a lot of features there
are that are there to encourage conversation to the fol

(29:23):
content as opposed to the quick hits, so that way
we can have more of these nuanced conversations than a
little bit more back and forth. But we're a very
human centered social media platform, which is rare and usual
today most of them, you know, are overtaken by AI
and box. But with our verification system, we're making sure
that if you see a blue check mark, they are
who they say they are. And the only way that

(29:44):
you can really ever trender and organically grow or anything
like that is if you are verified and you are
a human, which means now we can begin to have
more human the human content as opposed to on a
lot of these social media platforms. Eighty percent of the
times that you're talking to somebody on the social platform,
you're actually talking to a box.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
That's a great point, you know that. That's the other
thing that and I'm glad you pointed that out. You know,
we see all this hate online. Well, some of that
hate may be coming from actual people, but a lot
of that hate may be coming from China or Russia,
people who have in their vested interest to have us
turn against one another.

Speaker 10 (30:19):
Yeah, it's it's it's a very good point. And also
in our case, Junior talked a lot bit about this
when he was running for president in this last election,
where he's like, yes, there's Russia and there's China and
foreign governments that are all using you know what we're
called bot farms, but our own intelligence agencies are also
using bot farms, and they're they're pushing propaganda on us
as well for what they want to implement. So so

(30:41):
there's a variety of things that are happening there that
social media platforms are being hijacked in order to push propaganda.
And so for us, what we're what we're trying to
do is we're trying to cut them out at the
knees to where they can't actually do that on our platform.
You know, they could theoretically set up a bot carman
do a bunch of accounts, but they're never get they're

(31:02):
never gonna get seen, they're never gonna manipulate the algorithm.
They're never It's basically pointless. So we basically render that
strategy useless.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
All right, Jeff, Hey, thank you for coming on. Good
to get your insight. I do appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (31:14):
Thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
You met the founder and the CEO of Pickaxe, that
is Jeff Dornick. Back with more in a moment. Jimmy
Baird Show. You're an AM nine fifty KPRC. Guys, we

(31:40):
can kind of wrap up our party show talking about
some financial news. Let's let's talk a little bit about
financial news. Uh, the fad yesterday Lord, the interest rate
was a yesterday of the day before anyway by a
quarter basis point twenty five percent. And now, of course
everybody's thinking that that was you know, they needed to
do more than that. Larry Cudlow on his show yesterday

(32:04):
talking about we're talking with several economists, including Steve Moore,
about the interest rate cut and what is likely to
happen next.

Speaker 12 (32:12):
Six weeks ago, I was on this show and I
was the first person to say that they should cut
by fifty basis points, and the inversion in the front
end of the curve tells us that the bond market
would have digested that just fine. And yesterday the part
that made no sense is that chair Pal said that
he was doing this for risk management purposes, that he
needed the cut, but then cutting by only twenty five

(32:34):
basis points didn't actually.

Speaker 10 (32:36):
Change any of the risk. It just wasn't enough.

Speaker 12 (32:39):
And so yes, they should have gone over. But more importantly, Larry,
to your porn on housing, they should have stopped selling
mortgages off the balance sheet. That's the part that is
really hurting in the economy right now, with the Fed
is doing which no investor would do, is say we're
going to sell every single month no matter what the
price is, and we're going to tell you we're going
to keep selling forever. And that's putting, making mortgage spreads

(33:01):
go up and that's the part of the economy that
could have been very targeted. It's just a bad time
to be doing it.

Speaker 11 (33:07):
There might be other times, or it's a good time
to be doing it.

Speaker 12 (33:09):
It's clearly a bad time to do it, and it
shows that the Fed's not flexible enough to meet the
needs of the economy.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Right now, You're gonna see more the more when Jay Powell,
when the FED announced its raid cut, the stock mark
going up a lot. Then j Powell gets center stage
and how's this press conference? And you can plot this.
Malpass said this on the set. It's a great point.
The more j Powell talked, the lower stocks went and
the higher bond yields went. What do you think that means?

(33:35):
I mean, I don't think there's any confidence in this
guy whatsoever. And that's why I think you should have
stepped down months ago.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
He's a donor.

Speaker 13 (33:43):
He's a donary to put forward a dismal forecast on
the economy. I mean, Larry, the economy grew what three
point two percent in the second quarter according to the
Federal Atlanta Reserve Bank. It's growing at over three percent
in the third quarter. And he's talking about the economy
growing at one and a half percent. What the hell
is he talking about? And then the other thing that
he does, Larry and you touched on this at your

(34:03):
show yesterday, but I want to repeat it because it
was such an important point. Okay, Look, I do believe
terrorists probably have a negative effect on the economy. But
look at all the other things that Trump is doing.
Look at the tax cut, Look at the fact that
he's deregulating economy, saving a billion dollars. Look at the
fact that we have drill, drill drill, Look at the
fact that we've got the border secure all. Look at
the fact that we got a record stock market for

(34:25):
goodness sake. Well, he never brings up these things. He
always attacks Trump, never talks about the things that Trump
is doing to expand the economy. This guy has got
to go.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
He hates Trump, and he does for a whole variety
of reasons, you know, some political and some personal. After all,
I mean, you know, Trump's been calling for his firing
for how long now, He's been basically called him an
idiot for how long now? So yeah, he hates Trump.
So yeah, is he gonna say anything positive that you
know that relates to anything that Trump has done no,

(34:58):
of course he isn't, of course, But let's cover the
other aspect of it, which is, Okay, we got twenty
five basis points quarter percent cut for now, what's next?
I mean, we're going to get more rate cuts. Here's
Wall Street Journal Chief economic correspondent Nick tamar Ross talking
about the future of FED rate cuts.

Speaker 11 (35:18):
You know, the big question, as you noted, was whether
a majority of the committee would write down two more
cuts this year or just one more. The September projections
are kind of weird, right, because it's calendar based. You're
writing down, really what you think you're going to do
at the next two meetings. So it was significant that
Powell had a majority writing down cuts consecutive cuts here

(35:41):
at the last two meetings. And what I found most
interesting from Powell's remarks in the press conference, he was asked, well,
if the labor market's slowing and that's why you're doing this,
why are twenty five basis points really going to matter?
And he said he sort of accepted the premise that
they wouldn't matter. He said, what really matters is the
path that the market is priced in, and we are

(36:04):
validating that path essentially, So he went further than he
had to there by blessing the markets pricing for cuts
in October and December. He called it a risk management cut,
which the market didn't like. But frankly, if the economy
does not look like it's outright going into a recession,
then that is the reason that you would cut interest rates.

(36:26):
It's a risk management exercise because you want to make
sure the economy doesn't go into a recession.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah. Well, the wind of the next two meetings, We've
got one next month in October, and I believe the
other one is in December. So those are the two
where they may, you know, I don't know if they're
going to do a quarter percent again or if they're
going to go a half a percent get a little
bit bigger. I guess it depends on what the data
tells them between now and then. All right, enough to
talk for to day time to start the weekend. You

(36:54):
all have a great weekend. I will see a Monday morning,
brighten early five am over on KTRH to uh see
you Monday afternoon four here on a M nine fifty
k p r C