September 18, 2025 • 16 mins
Today on the Jimmy Barrett Show:
- Lucas Miles on his book "Pagan Threat: Confronting America's Godless Uprising"
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Our next guest here on AM nine fifty kPr seeing
the Jimmy Bair Show is a guy who has written
a book that I think it's time that we hear
about this book, because I believe that this is ninety
nine point nine to nine percent of our problem right now,
especially with what happened with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Our guest is Lucas Miles, and he's written a book
(00:24):
called Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising. Lucas, first of all,
welcome to the show, and i'd love you to start
by talking about the forward that Charlie Kirk wrote for
you and how you knew Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
First off, thanks for having me on. I consider a
great honor to be able to share about Charlie right now.
Charlie Kirk is a friend and also was my boss.
I'm the senior director at TPUSA Faith and have been
overseen all the faith operations for Charlie throughout the last
eighteen months, and it's it's been obviously a difficult time
(00:58):
for all of us. I'd approached Charlie about writing the
forward for this book a little bit earlier this year
and there's nobody who understood the threats to this nation
more than Charlie. I was a no brainer to having
to be part of it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So, in knowing Charlie as well as you did, I'm
sure you've been following some of some of the media,
both positive and negative, as far as Charlie was involved.
How do you deal with all the lies that are
being told, especially on the progressive left, about who Charlie
Kirk was. You know, he's been demonized about as much
(01:32):
as you can be demonized for his beliefs.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Look, I think that.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know, first off, for all of us here at TPUSA,
our focus this week is to give Charlie a send
off that he deserves. This weekend, we're going to have
an incredible more memorial service for him on Sunday. It's
going to be a historic event. My guess is it
will end up being the most televised event in American history.
And there's no shortage of content out there from Charlie
(01:59):
about Charlie, and I think that anybody who takes any
moment to go through that content will see very clearly
who Charlie is and was. He was a Christian, he
loved the Lord, he loved his family. He was a
good husband, he was a good father. I was honored
to call him a friend. You know what, you know,
I think, in just Charlie Kirk fashion, we don't have
(02:19):
a lot of time for the haters. We're going to
continue to pursue those who have ears to hear and
really get the gospel outs as many people as we can.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Lucas of all people, to say something profound about Charlie Kirk.
I don't know if you've heard about this or not,
but Charlie Sheen, you want to talk about somebody who's
had this fair share of problems in life. Charlie Sheen,
when asked about Charlie Kirk, described what happened to Charlie
as a JFK moment for the younger generation. That he
(02:46):
thought this would be as profound for the younger generation
as Kennedy's assassination was for the younger generation back in
the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, we actually had Charlie, Charlie Sheen's over to
our studio at Turning Point earlier this year, and I
had the opportunity to sit down with her and interview
her about her faith. She's had quite a big transformation
into her life and coming to Christ, and you know,
my prayers and that continues to impact the whole family.
You know, Charlie's a guy who's Charlie Sheen's a guy
(03:18):
who's been through a lot, and I think you know
has insight into you know, a lot of these types
of situations, traumas ceter are certainly not a perfect guy
by any means. But I'm glad to see people in
Hollywood waking up and and just speaking truthfully about the situation.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
All right, now, let's let's get into your book, because
I think you know the title of your book, I
probably says it all, but I think it is it's
painfully obvious what is happening in this country. We have
an absence of faith, in particular for the younger generations.
We have people who have moved away from God, moved
away from going to church, don't seem to have a
moral compass, weren't brought up with a moral compass. People
(03:56):
who have a moral compass don't do things like assassinate
other people or murder other people. There's a real lack
of faith in this country.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know, Charlie was a.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Lot of times referred to as provocative, and I just
believe he was a Christian. I think that these other
labels that people throw on him don't really do justice
to who he was. The only reason why truth would
be prerogative to somebody is if they have an intention
in their heart to rebel against it. You know, if
you're stranded in a desert and you're, you know, getting
(04:31):
ready to die of dehydration, and somebody comes up to
you with, you know, a nice big ice, cold water
and directions to the nearest town, that's not provocative unless
you don't want to be found. And I think that
is what Charlie encountered in this world is a lot
of people that were hungry for the truth, but also
some people that didn't want to be found, and his
(04:52):
message to them was therefore offensive and provocative because they
had no intention of ever following the truth.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Well, I think I think for some people on the
progressive left, to Charlie was seen as somebody very very dangerous.
And the reason is is that if you are a
supporter of communism or socialism or fascism or any of
those otherisms other than capitalism, then chances are pretty good
that you don't like the competition from the real God.
You don't want a real God or real Jesus for
(05:21):
people to worship. You want the all knowing state to
be worshiped. You want your party to be worshiped, not God.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Look, this is why I wrote this book Pagan Threat,
is because I believe that so many people have just
abandoned the true faith and they have started pursuing all
these false ideologies. When you look at the world today,
I mean, you have one point five million people that
consider themselves pagans.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Here in America. But that's only a.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Just minor implication of the actual problem that's out there
right now, because Marxism is a pagan ideology and it
has infiltrated all these different facets of society, from the
church to our schools, etc. So in this book Pagan Threat,
I really wanted to expose what I believe is a
rising problem, and that is people turning away from the
(06:12):
true Gospel in order to pursue things like you know,
the trans Death cult and and you know all of
the alphabets, you know cult that's out there, and they're
giving themselves over to these false ideologies. And it's it's
literally we're seeing the impact in our youth today by
the trauma and the pain and now the violence that
(06:34):
is coming out.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Of that in your mind. And I realized this is
up for interpretation. Lucas Miles and again the name of
the book is pagan threat. Confronting America's godless uprising is
part of the problem. Also other forms of organized religion
who also are purporting things like open borders and in
other sort of socialist type policies, but are doing it
(06:54):
in the name of their church.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Jesus wasn't a socialist. You know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We see throughout the scriptures that personal responsibility is a
major tenet of the Christian faith. It's it's laced in
almost every single one of Jesus's parables. And I think
that it's important that we recognize as there's a lot
of people that call themselves Christians out there or that
adhere to different you know, faith or denominations, but they're
(07:19):
not actually teaching the full counsel of the Word of God.
I think that as a believer, there is an inherent
commitment to the fidelity of the scriptures, and we have
to stand upon those we can't pick and choose. And
so if we're going to call ourselves Christians. We have
to hold to the faith and that these other things.
You know, when it comes to whether it be you know,
(07:41):
views on abortion or sexuality, or gender or marriage, there's
a biblical there's a biblical worldview for all of those.
And those are political issues. They've been politicized, but they're
not political issues. They're first and foremost theological. And you know,
there's there's people that ask me all the time, can
you be you know, a Democrat and be saved? And
I would say, that's not my that's not my thing
(08:01):
to decide. That's up to God. But what I can
tell you is I don't think that you can ascribe
to the Marxist agenda of the Democratic Party and actually
be a disciple of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
All Right, Locas, here comes maybe the toughest question of all,
at least the toughest problem to solve. We have a
huge problem in our nation's public school system and our
colleges and universities, which are again very socialist in origin
these days. For parents out there who are trying their
level best to prevent their kids from being radicalized, what
(08:32):
is the best thing that the parent can do take
them out of the public schools. What would be your recommendation. Yeah, So,
in my.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Book, Aagan Threat, I lay out a seven step plan
for parents, believers, church leaders, pastors in order to really
reach this next generation.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
One of the biggest problems that we have is that
many of.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
The places where young people are today feel virtually inaccessible
to the older generation. It's you know, digital chat rooms
and gaming chat rooms and TikTok lives and x spaces
and discord channels and all these different things, and so,
you know, the schools are a problem, and I think
that we have to recognize that, and I think that homeschooling,
(09:14):
if you're capable of it, or co ops and those
things should be you know, considerations for families. For sure,
if kids are raised right and they're equipped in their faith,
then you know, there's ways to navigate public schools, certainly,
but it's difficult. But I think that we also have
to be aware of the other influences in kids' lives
where paganism and Marxism is being introduced to them.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And we have really the same problem that say.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know, watched the report about the FBI last night.
They're trying to kind of figure out where all this
impact and influences coming in the dark web. Well, it's
the same problem for the church. We're trying to reach
people in all those spaces, so we have to be
very creative. The church has to engage a lot more
in digital evangelism and that we have to, you know,
make a commitment in order to reach this next generation.
(10:00):
All right, Lucas, Hey, listen, thanks for coming on the
show today. Pleasure to hear from you, sir. Best of
luck with the book. Thanks for having me, you bet, Lucas.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Miles Again, the name of the book is Pagan Threat
Confronting America's Godless Uprising Back with Born a Moment Jimmy
Barrett Show, AM nine fifty KPRC. All right, So, kind
(10:35):
of following up here with our conversation with Lucas Miles.
I think he sort of got into it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I brought up the specter of public school education, and
of course the recommendation is if you can homeschool, homeschool.
There are plenty of parents who are not going to
do that or don't feel they're in a position to
do something like that, and I get that, but maybe
even more importantly, he sort of brought up the specter
of social media, gaming rooms, other places where these young
(11:02):
people go and meet other like minded individuals. I really
do believe, and that's why, again I mentioned earlier in
the show, I really want to see a big follow up,
a big investigation into where, you know, where this this shooter,
Utah shooter was radicalized. Was it online? Was it in
(11:26):
one of these gaming rooms? Was it in a chat
room on a social media site he was on? There
probably needs to be a thorough investigation. Well there does not.
Probably there needs to be a thorough investigation of that.
I get the impression that that's where James Comer is
going with this, is that he thinks that he had
(11:46):
I forget the name of what is the name of
that site, doug on it obviously not one I'm ever on,
but he'll mention that. In this clip that we have
of he talked to one of the CEOs of one
of these sites that the show Shooters supposedly was on.
And here's how that conversation went.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
By the way is for the platform ownership has been
working with our lawful process and we are obtaining materials
from them on a rolling basis. Well, we have a
lot of questions. There appears to be a pattern emerging
where many of the crimes committed, the high profile crimes
committed by younger people, they were all communicating on these
(12:26):
various platforms, and we're concerned that there's some type of
radicalization effort out there. We don't know that the platforms
have any liability, but we are concerned and we want
to know if there are things Congress can do without
limiting speech, that would help us identify some of these
radicalized groups that are nothing more than terror groups that
(12:49):
have a bad agenda, an evil agenda, and something that
you know, we certainly don't want to see replicated. We
don't want the criminals to continue to communicate freely on
these pla platforms if there's a way that Congress can
identify them beforehand. This isn't a hearing where we're gonna
bring the CEOs and berate them on national television. We
(13:11):
sincerely hope to find solutions to the problems, and I
don't think any two members on the Oversight Committee, regardless
the party, have an agreement on what can be done.
I think there's a lot of uncertainty, and remember Republicans especially,
we've lived through the censorship days of the Biden regime
and the deep state actors that did everything in their
(13:32):
ability to limit conservatives from COVID all the way to
the presidential election.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
We don't ever want to repeat that.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
But at the same time, we deserve to represent our
constituents and see if there's anything that can be done
to identify this criminal activity before.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It gets out of hand.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
It's a tough world to do that in, though. It's
a really tough world to do that in. There's so
many places for these people to hide. There's so many
ways that they can communicate, partly communicate with each other
without any of us knowing any of this communication so
many different ways now, so it's it's a tough nut
(14:13):
to crack, you know, which I guess gets to me
back to changing hearts and minds, you know, and and
and as parents, you know, building the kind of kids
who can resist this kind of stuff. You know, how
did how did you know? How did the Utah shooter
go from being raised in a Mormon household by Republican
(14:36):
Trump supporting parents and become this well, probably because he
was gay and he was looking for other people like himself,
people people who are unique or unusual. Not that gay
people are unique or unusual. It's not that unique anymore.
But I'm sure growing up in a morn household, I'm
(14:58):
sure that's the last thing that those parents wanted to
deal with was having a gay child. So he probably
ended up going in a whole variety different directions. And
then he ends up with a boyfriend who's transitioning. You know,
he ends up with a trans boyfriend, and you know,
it goes downhill from it, and then he ends up
in gaming rooms and he talks to other people who
(15:19):
are feeding him all this kind of stuff about how
who needs to live and who needs to die. Before
you know what, you got to you got a psychopath
on your hand. So stopping all that is going to
be really hard to do without us having some sort
of a moral clarity. I don't think you have to
go to church every week to have moral clarity. I
(15:40):
don't think you have to be of a specific religion
in order to do the right thing. But I think
that there's there's a lack of a moral compass at
the moment, and I'm and I'm kind of frustrated in
how we can try to go about replacing that moral
compass so we can try to get people back on
the right, all right, dot to solve this today. Y'all
(16:02):
have a great day though, thank you for listening. I
will see you tomorrow morning bright nearly five am over
on news Radio seven forty k t r H. We're
back here at four on AM nine fifty k pr C.
Our next guest here on AM nine fifty kPr seeing
the Jimmy Bair Show is a guy who has written
a book that I think it's time that we hear
about this book, because I believe that this is ninety
nine point nine to nine percent of our problem right now,
especially with what happened with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Our guest is Lucas Miles, and he's written a book
(00:24):
called Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising. Lucas, first of all,
welcome to the show, and i'd love you to start
by talking about the forward that Charlie Kirk wrote for
you and how you knew Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
First off, thanks for having me on. I consider a
great honor to be able to share about Charlie right now.
Charlie Kirk is a friend and also was my boss.
I'm the senior director at TPUSA Faith and have been
overseen all the faith operations for Charlie throughout the last
eighteen months, and it's it's been obviously a difficult time
(00:58):
for all of us. I'd approached Charlie about writing the
forward for this book a little bit earlier this year
and there's nobody who understood the threats to this nation
more than Charlie. I was a no brainer to having
to be part of it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So, in knowing Charlie as well as you did, I'm
sure you've been following some of some of the media,
both positive and negative, as far as Charlie was involved.
How do you deal with all the lies that are
being told, especially on the progressive left, about who Charlie
Kirk was. You know, he's been demonized about as much
(01:32):
as you can be demonized for his beliefs.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Look, I think that.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know, first off, for all of us here at TPUSA,
our focus this week is to give Charlie a send
off that he deserves. This weekend, we're going to have
an incredible more memorial service for him on Sunday. It's
going to be a historic event. My guess is it
will end up being the most televised event in American history.
And there's no shortage of content out there from Charlie
(01:59):
about Charlie, and I think that anybody who takes any
moment to go through that content will see very clearly
who Charlie is and was. He was a Christian, he
loved the Lord, he loved his family. He was a
good husband, he was a good father. I was honored
to call him a friend. You know what, you know,
I think, in just Charlie Kirk fashion, we don't have
(02:19):
a lot of time for the haters. We're going to
continue to pursue those who have ears to hear and
really get the gospel outs as many people as we can.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Lucas of all people, to say something profound about Charlie Kirk.
I don't know if you've heard about this or not,
but Charlie Sheen, you want to talk about somebody who's
had this fair share of problems in life. Charlie Sheen,
when asked about Charlie Kirk, described what happened to Charlie
as a JFK moment for the younger generation. That he
(02:46):
thought this would be as profound for the younger generation
as Kennedy's assassination was for the younger generation back in
the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, we actually had Charlie, Charlie Sheen's over to
our studio at Turning Point earlier this year, and I
had the opportunity to sit down with her and interview
her about her faith. She's had quite a big transformation
into her life and coming to Christ, and you know,
my prayers and that continues to impact the whole family.
You know, Charlie's a guy who's Charlie Sheen's a guy
(03:18):
who's been through a lot, and I think you know
has insight into you know, a lot of these types
of situations, traumas ceter are certainly not a perfect guy
by any means. But I'm glad to see people in
Hollywood waking up and and just speaking truthfully about the situation.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
All right, now, let's let's get into your book, because
I think you know the title of your book, I
probably says it all, but I think it is it's
painfully obvious what is happening in this country. We have
an absence of faith, in particular for the younger generations.
We have people who have moved away from God, moved
away from going to church, don't seem to have a
moral compass, weren't brought up with a moral compass. People
(03:56):
who have a moral compass don't do things like assassinate
other people or murder other people. There's a real lack
of faith in this country.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know, Charlie was a.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Lot of times referred to as provocative, and I just
believe he was a Christian. I think that these other
labels that people throw on him don't really do justice
to who he was. The only reason why truth would
be prerogative to somebody is if they have an intention
in their heart to rebel against it. You know, if
you're stranded in a desert and you're, you know, getting
(04:31):
ready to die of dehydration, and somebody comes up to
you with, you know, a nice big ice, cold water
and directions to the nearest town, that's not provocative unless
you don't want to be found. And I think that
is what Charlie encountered in this world is a lot
of people that were hungry for the truth, but also
some people that didn't want to be found, and his
(04:52):
message to them was therefore offensive and provocative because they
had no intention of ever following the truth.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Well, I think I think for some people on the
progressive left, to Charlie was seen as somebody very very dangerous.
And the reason is is that if you are a
supporter of communism or socialism or fascism or any of
those otherisms other than capitalism, then chances are pretty good
that you don't like the competition from the real God.
You don't want a real God or real Jesus for
(05:21):
people to worship. You want the all knowing state to
be worshiped. You want your party to be worshiped, not God.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Look, this is why I wrote this book Pagan Threat,
is because I believe that so many people have just
abandoned the true faith and they have started pursuing all
these false ideologies. When you look at the world today,
I mean, you have one point five million people that
consider themselves pagans.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Here in America. But that's only a.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Just minor implication of the actual problem that's out there
right now, because Marxism is a pagan ideology and it
has infiltrated all these different facets of society, from the
church to our schools, etc. So in this book Pagan Threat,
I really wanted to expose what I believe is a
rising problem, and that is people turning away from the
(06:12):
true Gospel in order to pursue things like you know,
the trans Death cult and and you know all of
the alphabets, you know cult that's out there, and they're
giving themselves over to these false ideologies. And it's it's
literally we're seeing the impact in our youth today by
the trauma and the pain and now the violence that
(06:34):
is coming out.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Of that in your mind. And I realized this is
up for interpretation. Lucas Miles and again the name of
the book is pagan threat. Confronting America's godless uprising is
part of the problem. Also other forms of organized religion
who also are purporting things like open borders and in
other sort of socialist type policies, but are doing it
(06:54):
in the name of their church.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Jesus wasn't a socialist. You know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We see throughout the scriptures that personal responsibility is a
major tenet of the Christian faith. It's it's laced in
almost every single one of Jesus's parables. And I think
that it's important that we recognize as there's a lot
of people that call themselves Christians out there or that
adhere to different you know, faith or denominations, but they're
(07:19):
not actually teaching the full counsel of the Word of God.
I think that as a believer, there is an inherent
commitment to the fidelity of the scriptures, and we have
to stand upon those we can't pick and choose. And
so if we're going to call ourselves Christians. We have
to hold to the faith and that these other things.
You know, when it comes to whether it be you know,
(07:41):
views on abortion or sexuality, or gender or marriage, there's
a biblical there's a biblical worldview for all of those.
And those are political issues. They've been politicized, but they're
not political issues. They're first and foremost theological. And you know,
there's there's people that ask me all the time, can
you be you know, a Democrat and be saved? And
I would say, that's not my that's not my thing
(08:01):
to decide. That's up to God. But what I can
tell you is I don't think that you can ascribe
to the Marxist agenda of the Democratic Party and actually
be a disciple of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
All Right, Locas, here comes maybe the toughest question of all,
at least the toughest problem to solve. We have a
huge problem in our nation's public school system and our
colleges and universities, which are again very socialist in origin
these days. For parents out there who are trying their
level best to prevent their kids from being radicalized, what
(08:32):
is the best thing that the parent can do take
them out of the public schools. What would be your recommendation. Yeah, So,
in my.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Book, Aagan Threat, I lay out a seven step plan
for parents, believers, church leaders, pastors in order to really
reach this next generation.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
One of the biggest problems that we have is that
many of.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
The places where young people are today feel virtually inaccessible
to the older generation. It's you know, digital chat rooms
and gaming chat rooms and TikTok lives and x spaces
and discord channels and all these different things, and so,
you know, the schools are a problem, and I think
that we have to recognize that, and I think that homeschooling,
(09:14):
if you're capable of it, or co ops and those
things should be you know, considerations for families. For sure,
if kids are raised right and they're equipped in their faith,
then you know, there's ways to navigate public schools, certainly,
but it's difficult. But I think that we also have
to be aware of the other influences in kids' lives
where paganism and Marxism is being introduced to them.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And we have really the same problem that say.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know, watched the report about the FBI last night.
They're trying to kind of figure out where all this
impact and influences coming in the dark web. Well, it's
the same problem for the church. We're trying to reach
people in all those spaces, so we have to be
very creative. The church has to engage a lot more
in digital evangelism and that we have to, you know,
make a commitment in order to reach this next generation.
(10:00):
All right, Lucas, Hey, listen, thanks for coming on the
show today. Pleasure to hear from you, sir. Best of
luck with the book. Thanks for having me, you bet, Lucas.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Miles Again, the name of the book is Pagan Threat
Confronting America's Godless Uprising Back with Born a Moment Jimmy
Barrett Show, AM nine fifty KPRC. All right, So, kind
(10:35):
of following up here with our conversation with Lucas Miles.
I think he sort of got into it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I brought up the specter of public school education, and
of course the recommendation is if you can homeschool, homeschool.
There are plenty of parents who are not going to
do that or don't feel they're in a position to
do something like that, and I get that, but maybe
even more importantly, he sort of brought up the specter
of social media, gaming rooms, other places where these young
(11:02):
people go and meet other like minded individuals. I really
do believe, and that's why, again I mentioned earlier in
the show, I really want to see a big follow up,
a big investigation into where, you know, where this this shooter,
Utah shooter was radicalized. Was it online? Was it in
(11:26):
one of these gaming rooms? Was it in a chat
room on a social media site he was on? There
probably needs to be a thorough investigation. Well there does not.
Probably there needs to be a thorough investigation of that.
I get the impression that that's where James Comer is
going with this, is that he thinks that he had
(11:46):
I forget the name of what is the name of
that site, doug on it obviously not one I'm ever on,
but he'll mention that. In this clip that we have
of he talked to one of the CEOs of one
of these sites that the show Shooters supposedly was on.
And here's how that conversation went.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
By the way is for the platform ownership has been
working with our lawful process and we are obtaining materials
from them on a rolling basis. Well, we have a
lot of questions. There appears to be a pattern emerging
where many of the crimes committed, the high profile crimes
committed by younger people, they were all communicating on these
(12:26):
various platforms, and we're concerned that there's some type of
radicalization effort out there. We don't know that the platforms
have any liability, but we are concerned and we want
to know if there are things Congress can do without
limiting speech, that would help us identify some of these
radicalized groups that are nothing more than terror groups that
(12:49):
have a bad agenda, an evil agenda, and something that
you know, we certainly don't want to see replicated. We
don't want the criminals to continue to communicate freely on
these pla platforms if there's a way that Congress can
identify them beforehand. This isn't a hearing where we're gonna
bring the CEOs and berate them on national television. We
(13:11):
sincerely hope to find solutions to the problems, and I
don't think any two members on the Oversight Committee, regardless
the party, have an agreement on what can be done.
I think there's a lot of uncertainty, and remember Republicans especially,
we've lived through the censorship days of the Biden regime
and the deep state actors that did everything in their
(13:32):
ability to limit conservatives from COVID all the way to
the presidential election.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
We don't ever want to repeat that.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
But at the same time, we deserve to represent our
constituents and see if there's anything that can be done
to identify this criminal activity before.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It gets out of hand.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
It's a tough world to do that in, though. It's
a really tough world to do that in. There's so
many places for these people to hide. There's so many
ways that they can communicate, partly communicate with each other
without any of us knowing any of this communication so
many different ways now, so it's it's a tough nut
(14:13):
to crack, you know, which I guess gets to me
back to changing hearts and minds, you know, and and
and as parents, you know, building the kind of kids
who can resist this kind of stuff. You know, how
did how did you know? How did the Utah shooter
go from being raised in a Mormon household by Republican
(14:36):
Trump supporting parents and become this well, probably because he
was gay and he was looking for other people like himself,
people people who are unique or unusual. Not that gay
people are unique or unusual. It's not that unique anymore.
But I'm sure growing up in a morn household, I'm
(14:58):
sure that's the last thing that those parents wanted to
deal with was having a gay child. So he probably
ended up going in a whole variety different directions. And
then he ends up with a boyfriend who's transitioning. You know,
he ends up with a trans boyfriend, and you know,
it goes downhill from it, and then he ends up
in gaming rooms and he talks to other people who
(15:19):
are feeding him all this kind of stuff about how
who needs to live and who needs to die. Before
you know what, you got to you got a psychopath
on your hand. So stopping all that is going to
be really hard to do without us having some sort
of a moral clarity. I don't think you have to
go to church every week to have moral clarity. I
(15:40):
don't think you have to be of a specific religion
in order to do the right thing. But I think
that there's there's a lack of a moral compass at
the moment, and I'm and I'm kind of frustrated in
how we can try to go about replacing that moral
compass so we can try to get people back on
the right, all right, dot to solve this today. Y'all
(16:02):
have a great day though, thank you for listening. I
will see you tomorrow morning bright nearly five am over
on news Radio seven forty k t r H. We're
back here at four on AM nine fifty k pr C.
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