May 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Today on the Jimmy Barrett Show:
- CEO of The Direct Care Alliance David Balat on Trump's executive order on drug prices
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We have gotten onto some crazy topics on the morning
show and kat r H lately, so I'd like sharing
the audio with you here because we can talk about
it here in the afternoon show as well. Uh, what
was today, Oh, dishwashers? The craziest thing that you have
ever washed in your dishwasher? Maybe not even crazy, but
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one of those things, a non dish item that you
put in your dishwasher and washed. I've never I don't
think I have, at least purposely. I don't think I've
ever washed anything in our dishwasher that wasn't dish related.
But we got us talking about this this morning. Is
some guy in Australia who evidently had heard that you
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know your sandals are in this case, crocs do very
well in the dishwasher as far as getting them really clean.
You know, if they're really grungy and and kind of nasty,
you know, and you know how those things get It's
like it's like your your tennis shoes, right they kind
of they kind of stink a little bit if you
wear them a long long time. And it's hard to
get the smell out of something like a croc. It's
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like a rubber type of thing, so you know, the
smell gets in there. So here's the guy in Australia
and and and nanative version of him, you know, discovering
how well his dishwasher worked as far as getting his
crocks clean.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
As you can wash the crocs in the dishwasher.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So I'm going to try it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Check back when they're done, actually spotless. Look at this,
I only worries it shrunk. So I'm gonna let them
cool and then I'll try them on Blucky. They were
a little too roomy, so now that's you perfectly. But
they shrunk.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Okay, they shrank. That's a side effect. So you wouldn't
put probably something in your dishwasher that you didn't want
to shrink, just something and maybe it was a little
bit too big. Of course, what I don't know from
that is I don't know what the cycle was. You
know me, I have always have questions about this stuff.
All right, what cycle did you use? Did you use
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the heated dry feature? Because the heated dry feature on
the dishwasher is just blazing hot, blazing hot, I mean
just whoa super hot, I mean so hot that you
can't touch the dishes when the cycle first ends. You know,
you kind of have to let them cool down a
little before you even try to take them out of
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the dishwasher. So I put the question out this morning
for our listeners on KTRH and I use the talkback feature.
And by the way, you could use the talk back
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thirty seconds, and in that thirty seconds, you can, you know,
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leave me your name where you're calling from, in any
comment you have either on the show or on something
we may have talked about on the show. That's what
That's what we did this morning. We did a little
feature on you know, things that you put in the
dishwasher that you wouldn't normally find in the dishwasher. You
wouldn't they're non dish related. We got some really really
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interesting answers.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I have souv a steak in my dishwasher cooked it
took fifteen internally, pulled it out and seared it on
my cast iron skille. It perfect every time.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
I mean, you can actually steamfish in the dishwasher wrapping
a foil. That can actually happen. By the way, I've
never used my dishwasher since I've moved into my house.
I've only washed them by hands. Y'all have a good morning.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
I actually washed a pair of reef sandals in the
dishwasher once and the heat made the glue separate. Ruandom
calling from Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 9 (04:40):
Hey, Jimmy and sky Mike. This is Cindy from the Woodlands.
While I haven't intentionally put something into the dishwasher that
shouldn't be there. I did try to use Don dish
soap instead of something like cask Hey dishwashing soap, and
boy did that make a ma bubble is pouring out everywhere.
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And yeah, I did that when I was in my late.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
Thirties washing baseball hats, and a dishwasher does great to
clean them up.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, that turned out to me a popular one, and
I'd heard that one before. In fact, I think they
sell like little little forms that you can put the
head on so that the hat will keep its shape.
You know, it doesn't get you know, thrown around by
the agitator like it would in the washing machine. So
it seems to do a very very good job of that.
But the steak, the steak in the fish park kind
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of blew me away. And as he's describing, you know,
steaming a fish, I'm thinking to myself, you could probably
do the same thing with like crab legs and what
else could you could do?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Shrimp?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
But you know, those are things that have a tendency
to kind of smell. So I'm wondering, you know, if
you were to steam shrimp, for example, in your dishwasher.
How long? How long on the on the dry cycle
would you leave them in there? I guess you'd run
the wash cycle first, right, so she had some moisture
in there, and then you run the dry cycle and
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then it would steam the stuff. But the question is
how long would you leave it in there for? Is
there like a recipe, a dishwasher recipe for shrimp out
there somewhere? Would your dishwashers smell like shrimp? When you're done,
you stink up your dishwasher so that everything washed after
that kind of smells like shrimp.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I have no idea. Here's here's a couple more.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
I have disassembled my suppressor and put in the dishwasher
to clean out the carbon.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Jimmy original Andrew from Spring. I have put shoes in
the dishwasher, obviously by themselves, not with dishes. That would
be nasty. Just pre treat them with oxy clean white
shoes and then put them in the dishwasher. Come out bam,
looking brand spanking new.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
This is Jacob calling from Crosby.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
I have actually washed my ball caps in the little
plastic I guess container that keeps its shape.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Stow it in there, but never with dish if it's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
You know, it's funny. I looked at and looked it
up online and there was like a whole laundry list
of things. Toys for example, that that, you know, baby toys,
that kind of thing, anything you would want to like
clean and sanitize in particular, because that's the one thing
you can do in the dishwasher that's more difficult to
do in the washers to actually sanitize it because it
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gets so hot. But again, you have to be careful
because some things are going to melt in there if
you're not if you're not careful, all right, quick, a
little break. We are back with more in a moment.
Jimmy Bart Show. You're a name nine fifty KPRC. All right,
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I guess yesterday that we can talk about today on
the show is drug prices. The President President, before leaving
for Saudi Arabia, signing an executive order to bring down
drug prices. At least he says they will bring down
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drug prices thirty to eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
By the way.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
A guest coming up next segment on our show, David Blott.
David Blot will join us. David Blot is somebody in
the healthcare industry. He's the CEO of Alliance and Direct
Carolines is the actual name. He's the CEO of David Blot.
We're going to talk to him about you know what
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what what's the real skinny on the drug prices here?
But you know what, what cost? What has caused them
to get so high? And what is President Trump done
that will help bring them down? We'll talk to him
about that. But here is President Trump yesterday giving an example,
a pretty funny example, actually a pretty funny example of
why it is that he has decided to do something
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about drug prices.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
A friend of mine.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
Who's a business man, very very very top guy. Most
of you would have heard of him, a highly neurotic,
brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes to fat shot.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Drug and he called me up.
Speaker 10 (09:36):
I'm in London and I just paid for this damn
fat drug I take.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I said, it's not working.
Speaker 10 (09:43):
They said, he said, I just paid eighty eight dollars
and in New York I paid thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
What the hell is going on? What the hell is
going on?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean it makes no sense we pay more
for drugs anybody else. But there's there's more than just
the drug companies to We'll get into them when we
talk to David Blott. It's it, as always is slightly
more complicated, uh than what you might think that it is.
But the fact that this executive orders happen, it'll be
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interesting to see how quickly this has an impact on
how much we're paying for drugs. The whole the whole
system is ridiculous anyway. RFK Junior HHS Secretary praising President
Trump yesterday for having the cohones to actually do something
like this because other politicians in the past have talked
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about doing it, have talked tough about doing it, but
haven't done anything.
Speaker 11 (10:43):
You know, there's there's writers like what my Lord Elizabeth
Warren or Robert Reich or just saying that President Trump
is on this side of the olic arcs.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
There has never.
Speaker 11 (10:53):
Been a president more willing to stand up to the
Olock arcs than President Donald And I'm very very proud
of you, missed a president, for your courage for I'll say,
because I don't want to be crude, you're intestinal fortitude,
your stiff the spine, and your your willingness to stand
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up for the American people. We have four point two
percent of the world's population. We our country represents seventy
five percent of the revenues for pharmaceutical companies. We spent
in our country eleven one hundred and twenty six dollars
per capita on drugs. In Britain they's been about two
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hundred and forty. They spent one fifth of what we do.
And this is true across Europe. And this and the
drug company's Europeans, if you ask them, it made no
sense what they're saying, Well, America has to favor this
innovation or is not going to happen. President Trump is
saying to our European partners is you've got to raise
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the amount that you're paying for those drugs and pay
for your share of the innovation. Oh that I the
United States is no longer subsidizing that. If the Europeans
raised their at the price of their drugs by just
twenty percent, that is ten trillion dollars that can be
spent on innovation. And the house of all people all
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across the globe is going to increase yep.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And again that's part of it too. You know, how
is it that the United States has found itself in
a position where we are the ones who are funding
all the development and research. How is that? And by
the way, if you want to blame, I mean, here's
something to think about. And I think when RFK Junior
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was giving the president credit for quote unquote intestinal fortitude,
here's what he's thinking, all right. The previous administration, the
Biden administration. How much do you think that whole the
whole COVID nineteen pandemic response, how much of that do
you think was based on trying to help these drug
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companies make more money or help the line the politics,
the line the politicians' pockets because they were all in
on this, like Anthony Fauci for example. How rich did
Anthony Fauci get as a result of the policies they
came up with that enriched the drug companies and therefore
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enriched some of these politicians as well. I think we
all think that they had something to do with that,
right course, that would make sense. President Trump, like most
other politicians, took a lot of donations from drug companies
while running for president, but he has not allowed that
to interfere with his policies. I'm pretty sure that the
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drug companies supposed have had some inkling or maybe they
thought maybe they thought they could bribe him. But as
RFK Junior said, this guy be bought. You know, he's
not for sale. He can't be bought. Although I get
the impression from some of these mainstream media reporters they
think that the President Trump can be bought and they
think that's what the what the jet is all about. Yeah,
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that's what they think that the whole thing with the
with the with the jet is about. Well, I got
news that's that's not what that is all about at all.
The reason, at least one of the reasons why President
Trump is accepting that Jumbo seven forty seven to eight
jumbo jet from Cutter is because Boeing has let us
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down again.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Boeing, they were the ones working on the new Air
Force one. They've been working on it for years. It's
not ready, it's not ready for delivery. How long do
we give Boeing, you know, to spend all that extra
money on an air Force one that just isn't going
to be ready. President Trump got asked about the free
jumbo jet from Cutter here from an ABC News reporter
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who we had a little fun with. Let's take a
listen to that.
Speaker 12 (15:04):
What to say, people who knew that luxury jet as
a personal get to you?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Why not leave it by your NBC fake news?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Why not only only ABC?
Speaker 10 (15:12):
Well a few of you would, let me tell you,
you should be embarrassed asking that question.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
They're giving us a free jet. When they give you
a putt, you say thank you very much, you pick
up your ball, and you walk to the next all.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Golf analogy. They're giving us a free jet. What am
I stupid? Why would I say?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
You know, Bowie hasn't got my hasn't got our air
Force one ready. Here I'm flying in an old plane
with old technology. We need a new plane and and
and gutters going to give it to us. You're a taxpayer.
You're not going to have to spend your money on it.
They're giving us the jet. Did I mention that it's free?
Because because it's free, I mean not to say that
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they won't have to spend money on it. They're right,
they're gonna have to first as all as we do
discussed yesterday, they're gonna have to deconstruct it. They're gonna
have to make sure that there's nothing in there like
spying devices or what have you. And they're going to
have to obviously outfit it for all the things that
has to have to function as a flying fortress. That's
what air Force one is. Air Force one is the
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Oval Office in the air and it has to have
all the capabilities that you would have at the Oval
Office at the White House. So yeah, that's gonna it's
still going to cost millions in order to do it.
But at the end of the day, at least they
got they got a newer plane and they and they
didn't have to pay for that part of it. I
don't know what happens to the Boeing contract. Can we
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like cancel the Boeing contract now, seeing how they haven't
delivered on that anyway? Hopefully So you know, at the
end of the day, you know what this is all about. Though,
What drives people like ABC crazy is the guys just
they don't want to report. They don't want to report
on the victories because they get they're tired of him winning.
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He's like constantly winning. Here is Greg Guttfeld talking about
the winning streak the Trump administration is on.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We don't deserve him. The wins keep rolling in it's true.
Speaker 13 (17:10):
Consider this list so far, China agreed to cut tariffs.
Zelenski's potentially meeting with Putin.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
To talk piece for the first time.
Speaker 13 (17:17):
The White House broker, the Indian Pakistan truz.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Who knows how long that will lasts.
Speaker 13 (17:21):
He's building a facility for homeless vets with funds previously
spent on illegals.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Big deal.
Speaker 13 (17:27):
I snagged a Venezuelan hit man he.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Was living with. Nancy Amas is releasing.
Speaker 13 (17:33):
An American hostage as a gesture to Trump. And he's
slashing prescription drug prices. But I wonder if there's a
story behind that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'll tell you a story.
Speaker 10 (17:44):
Friend of mine who's a business man, very very very
top guy. Most of you would have heard of him,
seriously overweight, and he takes the fat shot drug. And
he called me up and he said, in London and
I just paid for this damn fat drug I take.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I said, it's not working.
Speaker 10 (18:06):
They said, he said, I just paid eighty eight dollars
and in New York I pay thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
What the hell is going on?
Speaker 13 (18:22):
And that man was Rosie O'Donnell.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
At least they're talking.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
At least they're talking again.
Speaker 14 (18:35):
Every one of these things is like a legacy defining
achievement of a president, and he literally turns one out
every hour, and.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
On a Sunday.
Speaker 13 (18:43):
This was a weekend, so I guess he didn't celebrate
Mother's Day. He was like, we were all like out
at brunch and he's like fit doing these deals totally.
Speaker 14 (18:52):
But what's so incredible about it is that the whole time,
you know, as we talk about this ongoing conversation about
the Democratic Party and the narrative from the liberal left,
they will never champion a success They will never acknowledge
that they were the ones the whole time from China,
like you'll never bag that beast, Oh really, because China
just caved or you know, there's no way that this
sort of bull in a China shop can ever have
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the foreign diplomacy required to actually negotiate peace sales really
Indian Pakistan, Like the Wins keep coming of these colossal
problems that the left kept saying, like there's no way
that this can ever be solvable. You know, the mess
Trump created was beyond repair it all, and he nails everything,
But I'm waiting for that success box to be checked
on their side. But as you put it, with their
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heads still up their ass, there's no way they're even
going to see where the door is. So I guess
we should just take the win because we're going to
keep winning at the election ballot too.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
There you go. Win's a win and we just keep
on winning. All right, quick little break coming up. Next,
we're going to visit with healthcare professional. I don't mean
a doctor, I just mean he's a healthcare professional, David
blot the CEO of Direct Care Alliance, on the high
cost of prescription drugs, Trump's executive order and what he
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thinks is likely to happen. Next, we're back with more
mom a Jimmy Baird Show here atn AM nine fifty KPRC.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
All Right, David Blata is with us.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
He's the CEO of Direct Care Alliance, here to talk
about Trump's executive action on drug prices, and we had
him on our morning show today in KTRH. And I
think the first thing you pointed out, David, to our
audience in the morning, you should point out our audience
in the afternoon, and that is that this executive order
only pertains to the federal government in what they're going
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to pay for prescription medications going forward.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Right, That's that's right, that's we saw that with President Biden.
Speaker 15 (20:56):
With the Inflation Reduction Act pertaining to drug prices. That
really only affected Medicare Medicaid in the DA.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
But we have how many people that are on Medicare
and Medicaid? Millions of people?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Right? Oh, it's quite a few, and it's a growing
number every day.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, So I'm guessing from the standpoint of reducing prices
when you're talking about I don't know what the number
is for for Medicare and Medicaid, how many hundreds of
millions of people, but that's a pretty significant chuck, and
you would think it is also going to have an
impact I'm generally speaking, what they're what they're charging for
drug prices for everybody, health insurance companies right on down
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the line.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You know, you hope that's the case.
Speaker 15 (21:39):
But unless they address drug pricing holistically, what a potential
outcome of this will be is that it may bring
it down for Medicare and Medicaid and the VA, but
in the private market we're going to see increases, so
that particularly the insurance companies who profit the most from
drug prices don't lose a lot of their value.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
How did we get ourselves into the situation to begin with?
Where the United States was the country that gets charged
the most. Why is it that we get charged more
for the same drugs that they're playing far less foreign
Europe and other countries.
Speaker 15 (22:21):
It's a multifaceted answer. It's a big question that requires
a big answer.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It's no simple it's no simple response or simple answers.
Speaker 15 (22:32):
It's going to take a lot of smart people applying
a lot of smart answers, one of which is the
amount of time that it takes to get drugs approved
and through the research period. With the FDA, the reformation
of that agency is badly needed.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That's number one, all right. What's number two?
Speaker 15 (22:51):
Number two is we have a problem with our supply chain.
Back in two thousand, under the Care Optimization Act, there
was a safe harbor from the anti kickback statute. Well,
PBMs Pharmacy Benefit Managers. I know that all sounds confusing,
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but this is an organization that works on behalf of
the insurance companies that are supposed to negotiate drug prices.
And what they do essentially is they because they have
the safe harbor from getting these kickbacks. They influence the
increase in drug prices from the manufacturers so that they
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can command a bigger kickback to themselves and to the
insurance company. So that has created this inflationary effect in
pricing over the last twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
You know, I have to wonder as well, David, And
I don't mean to put you on the spot here.
I'll give you my opinion and you can disagree with
me all you want to, or agree with whatever's most
appropriate to do. But the one thing that's truck Let's
go back to COVID nineteen here for a moment, Okay,
when we had all these cheap drugs that were available
that basically the federal government said, no, you know, you
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don't want to take those they're dangerous. We've got a vaccine.
We want you to take the vaccine. I always felt
like there were people within the confines of the federal government.
I don't know, doctor Anthony Fauci comes to mind that
we're probably getting rich off of this stuff. It made
a deal with the pharmaceutical companies to develop these vaccines,
and how they were all going to get rich off
of them, and then proceeded to dictate government policy that
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would make sure that would happen.
Speaker 15 (24:36):
You know what's interesting about that is typically when you
work for a company and you developed patents, the patent
is owned by that company, is it not.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
That's not the case in the federal government.
Speaker 15 (24:46):
And we know that doctor Fauci received millions and millions
of dollars in royalties for patents that he developed in
mRNA technology.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So yeah, I think that there are.
Speaker 15 (24:56):
You know, a lot of the problems that we have, Jimmy,
it's government has built in perverse incentives.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's a lot of our issues.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah, I wonder too, David Blott. We kind of created
a middleman in all this that in the perfect world
would not exist and perhaps in other countries does not exist. Correct,
they do not know.
Speaker 15 (25:23):
Typically you don't see pharmacy benefit managers or PBMs in
other countries. It's largely a USA phenomenon.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
How much do you think it's added on to the
price of any given drug because of that layer of
bureaucracy that's been added.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Anywhere from forty to seventy percent.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Holy moly, Holy.
Speaker 15 (25:46):
You go to the pharmaceutical annual report, they'll you know,
notify their shareholders of how much the rebate is and
how much that takes into account. You can also go
to the PBM in the insurance companies and look at
their reports to Wall Street and see how much of
their revenue comes from the rebates that they received due
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to their PBM efforts.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
All right, David, here's another here's another question. I have
always been curious about it in how this works in
this day and age we live in. Now, most of us,
through our insurance company, have some sort of a prescription benefit.
And even if you don't through your insurance company, or
even if you do through your insurance company, there are
other good RX. There are other websites that you can
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go to where you can theoretically shop for a lower
price for that same drug. And you will, you'll go
on this and very often you will see a huge
difference from site to site as far as what you'd
have to pay to get that medication. How does that
work and why does that work that way?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Well?
Speaker 15 (26:52):
Sure, well, there's there's a price, which is the market rate.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And if there's.
Speaker 15 (26:57):
A payment upfront or some kind of deal that they
had in place with a PBM like good RX, because
they function like one too, you can get a cash
price through that medium or through that broker. If you
have a copay through your insurance. Typically that cope is
sometimes more expensive than a generic drug at the cash trade.
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It's always important to find out what that price is
based on where you go, if they're offering that discount
from their regular price.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Okay, So, if I'm understanding you correctly, all these different groups,
whether you're talking about good RX or whatever quote unquote
discount type of app you're going through, they have all
made a deal for how much they're going to have
to pay for any particular drug. And then how much
you paid them for that particular drug depends on solely
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on how much of a markup they're putting on there
for themselves.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yes, they're getting either a fee or a piece of
the pie themselves.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Okay, So when you find it something that's half as
much on one side versus another side, then you know
they just made a better deal.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And therefore you.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Depend.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Wow, it all strikes me, and maybe this is very purposeful,
David Blood, is that it all strikes me is very confusing,
and it's like most other things in life, hospitals and
hospital pricing in all that I think it's meant to
be confusing, isn't it.
Speaker 15 (28:30):
That's my personal belief is that the intentional complexity benefits
these organizations that make.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
A lot of money.
Speaker 15 (28:37):
That's that's why I do what I do through to
my company, is that we take things back to the
basics and it's just you provide service, you get paid
for your service.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Wow, if we can only make the entire medical community
run that way, how much better would life be?
Speaker 15 (28:54):
Well, it's always a better thing when people are paying
less for it. I hope and pray that one day
will see the healthcare industry move in that direction.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Well, I think if nothing else, this this executive order
from President Trump. It may not be the total answer
here to to trying to get down drug prices, but
it certainly seems to me like it's putting pressure on
these drug companies that maybe for the first time ever,
they realize they're dealing with somebody here who's going to
put a lot of pressure on them to bring these
prices down.
Speaker 15 (29:25):
And I think a lot of that has to do
with the people that President has put in place. Much
much of the executive order gives a lot of power
to the agencies and the Secretary of Kennedy I think
is a good person to have to exert that pressure
on the pharmaceutical companies because he's been very critical in
the past and he's eager to get the prices down.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, and I think they realized that they're not going
to let up on this until something happens. So even
if it's just to keep the this administration off their back,
they're likely to do something for the rest of us,
not just Medicare Medica.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
That's my hope.
Speaker 15 (30:02):
And they need to do that quickly because they've got
some look at holistic solutions for this problem. They introduced
a Most Favored Nation Executive Order in twenty twenty, towards
the end of his first term, so it makes sense
that they've introduced this at the beginning of a second
term so they actually have time to get these things implemented.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
All right, David, Hey, listen, you've been a wealth of information.
I appreciate your time today. Thank you always pleasure. David Blot,
the CEO of Direct Care Alliance, back with more in
the moments Jimmy Bart Show.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You're an AM ninety fifteen KPRC.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
All right, before we call a day today, here's an
observation I've made this morning. Allow me to make it
again this afternoon. Did you see the protesters, the singing
protesters outside of this Newark, New Jersey, Ice detention facility,
you know, singing the songs. I mean, it's one thing
to hear them singing their little little protest songs. It's
(31:14):
another thing to see who they were. There weren't very
many of them. I only saw maybe fifteen to twenty
on TV. But they all they all look the same.
They were all baby boomers, probably seventy plus, maybe even
seventy five plus in some cases. And they all looked
(31:36):
like they all still had the long hair. They all
still had the bandanas. I swear I might have even
seen a tie Dice shirt amongst the group. It's the hippies.
The hippies are, That's who's protesting these days. The hippies
are still around the people who are protesting the Vietnam
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War back in the day, a handful of them who
never grew up, never matured, never never never lost their
their altered liberal stance, never got any more conservative. There
they are out protesting heinous criminals being detained by Ice.
The people being detained by Ice meet one of two
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criteria at this point, they're either deemed to be dangerous people,
gang members, gang bangers, you know, potential terrorists, those type
of people, or they have already had an order to
deport they have they've already they either skipped their day
in court, didn't show up, the court ordered them to
(32:38):
be deported, and they are being rounded up now and
they're going to be deported because they've they've had their
day in court. That's who we're talking about here. Those
are the people they're trying to protect. But in case
you want to test my theory, here, here are those protesters.
A little bit of those protesters, and they were talking
about it on the five and Dana Pirna will comment
(32:58):
on what they're calling the dem sir rec going on
in Newark.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
They say no, we say no, we say no, we
say no.
Speaker 16 (33:07):
Jesus Democrats singing for the rights of suspected murderers, terrorists,
child rapists, and ms thirteam members as they formed a
human chain outside an ice facility in the New Jersey
that holds the worst of the worst. It's the same
center that saw a trio of House Democrats storm their
way in and clashed with agents there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You lay a finger on them.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
We are going to have a problem.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Jesse, Why is is she wearing clothes?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
We should have pixelated that. I'm sorry, we should have
had a viewer warning data.
Speaker 16 (33:40):
What do you think about the dem surrection, Well, I think.
Speaker 12 (33:43):
That breaking the law in defense of people who broke
the law by virtue of being in this country is
viewed as a way to get ahead in the Democratic
primary for the gubernatorial race in New Jersey. There's an
open primary Republicans and Democrats are at it right now,
and that'll action is being held this November. And the
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guy who got arrested the mayor of Newark. He's a
longtime antagonist and instead of being criticized by people in
his party, he's being praised. And guess what else, got
a lot of name I d and I would bet
that his FEC report will show that he got a
lot of donations. Because the perception bias is something that
we're really dealing with here. Like I look at this
(34:24):
and think this is awful. They are against an officer
of the law. This is crazy. In the meantime, on
their side, they're like, yeah, go for it, get them,
And I think we're going to have a lot more
of this on our hands. It's also happened in Massachusetts
where you had a city council member trying to prevent
an illegal, a violent criminal, illegal immigrant, a woman from
having to from getting into a car to be taken away.
(34:46):
And so I'm hoping we don't see a lot more
of this, but it seems to me that the Democrats
are fanning the flames and wanting more of it and
more of the attention.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Interesting, so Dana Brino seems to think that it is
it's how is a ca candidate, especially in a crowded
field because there's a lot of Democrats in places like
New Jersey. This is how you get attention, This is
how you get donations, this is how you separate yourself
from the people who are running against you. This is
(35:15):
how you get your nomination so that you can run
for office, for higher office. This is how you get
it done in a blue state. Which is kind of
sad because you would like to think that, Okay, well,
maybe the voters will catch on to that, because the majority,
even in place like New Jersey, you got to think
(35:35):
the majority of the voters there are not in favor
of bringing back, you know, gang members of protecting people
who have been ordered deported. They wouldn't be in favor
of that, you wouldn't think, So, how does that make
them more electable? Maybe it makes it help them get
the nomination with the left wing of the party, But
(35:56):
how does that make them more electable? You would like
to think that it makes it more likely maybe Republican
would win that seat, but they I guess, first things first, right,
worry about that after you get the nomination. All right, listen,
y'all have a great day. Thanks for listening. I do
appreciate it. I'll see you tomorrow morning, bright and early,
starting at five AM on News Radio seven forty kt
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We have gotten onto some crazy topics on the morning
show and kat r H lately, so I'd like sharing
the audio with you here because we can talk about
it here in the afternoon show as well. Uh, what
was today, Oh, dishwashers? The craziest thing that you have
ever washed in your dishwasher? Maybe not even crazy, but
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one of those things, a non dish item that you
put in your dishwasher and washed. I've never I don't
think I have, at least purposely. I don't think I've
ever washed anything in our dishwasher that wasn't dish related.
But we got us talking about this this morning. Is
some guy in Australia who evidently had heard that you
(01:15):
know your sandals are in this case, crocs do very
well in the dishwasher as far as getting them really clean.
You know, if they're really grungy and and kind of nasty,
you know, and you know how those things get It's
like it's like your your tennis shoes, right they kind
of they kind of stink a little bit if you
wear them a long long time. And it's hard to
get the smell out of something like a croc. It's
(01:38):
like a rubber type of thing, so you know, the
smell gets in there. So here's the guy in Australia
and and and nanative version of him, you know, discovering
how well his dishwasher worked as far as getting his
crocks clean.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
As you can wash the crocs in the dishwasher.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So I'm going to try it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Check back when they're done, actually spotless. Look at this,
I only worries it shrunk. So I'm gonna let them
cool and then I'll try them on Blucky. They were
a little too roomy, so now that's you perfectly. But
they shrunk.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Okay, they shrank. That's a side effect. So you wouldn't
put probably something in your dishwasher that you didn't want
to shrink, just something and maybe it was a little
bit too big. Of course, what I don't know from
that is I don't know what the cycle was. You
know me, I have always have questions about this stuff.
All right, what cycle did you use? Did you use
(02:30):
the heated dry feature? Because the heated dry feature on
the dishwasher is just blazing hot, blazing hot, I mean
just whoa super hot, I mean so hot that you
can't touch the dishes when the cycle first ends. You know,
you kind of have to let them cool down a
little before you even try to take them out of
(02:50):
the dishwasher. So I put the question out this morning
for our listeners on KTRH and I use the talkback feature.
And by the way, you could use the talk back
peature is well for KPRC. Here's how here's how it works,
and here's my suggestion. You download the iHeartRadio app and
put KTRH number one on your preset and KPRC number
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the stations. You can put them on your preset, just
like you have a preset for your radio in your car,
and then when you want them, when you go to
the site, it's very easy to pull us up and
to find us very quickly. There's a talkback feature for
both stations. Little microphone you click on and you get
thirty seconds, and in that thirty seconds, you can, you know,
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leave me your name where you're calling from, in any
comment you have either on the show or on something
we may have talked about on the show. That's what
That's what we did this morning. We did a little
feature on you know, things that you put in the
dishwasher that you wouldn't normally find in the dishwasher. You
wouldn't they're non dish related. We got some really really
(03:59):
interesting answers.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I have souv a steak in my dishwasher cooked it
took fifteen internally, pulled it out and seared it on
my cast iron skille. It perfect every time.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
I mean, you can actually steamfish in the dishwasher wrapping
a foil. That can actually happen. By the way, I've
never used my dishwasher since I've moved into my house.
I've only washed them by hands. Y'all have a good morning.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
I actually washed a pair of reef sandals in the
dishwasher once and the heat made the glue separate. Ruandom
calling from Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 9 (04:40):
Hey, Jimmy and sky Mike. This is Cindy from the Woodlands.
While I haven't intentionally put something into the dishwasher that
shouldn't be there. I did try to use Don dish
soap instead of something like cask Hey dishwashing soap, and
boy did that make a ma bubble is pouring out everywhere.
(05:03):
And yeah, I did that when I was in my late.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
Thirties washing baseball hats, and a dishwasher does great to
clean them up.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, that turned out to me a popular one, and
I'd heard that one before. In fact, I think they
sell like little little forms that you can put the
head on so that the hat will keep its shape.
You know, it doesn't get you know, thrown around by
the agitator like it would in the washing machine. So
it seems to do a very very good job of that.
But the steak, the steak in the fish park kind
(05:35):
of blew me away. And as he's describing, you know,
steaming a fish, I'm thinking to myself, you could probably
do the same thing with like crab legs and what
else could you could do?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Shrimp?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
But you know, those are things that have a tendency
to kind of smell. So I'm wondering, you know, if
you were to steam shrimp, for example, in your dishwasher.
How long? How long on the on the dry cycle
would you leave them in there? I guess you'd run
the wash cycle first, right, so she had some moisture
in there, and then you run the dry cycle and
(06:10):
then it would steam the stuff. But the question is
how long would you leave it in there for? Is
there like a recipe, a dishwasher recipe for shrimp out
there somewhere? Would your dishwashers smell like shrimp? When you're done,
you stink up your dishwasher so that everything washed after
that kind of smells like shrimp.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I have no idea. Here's here's a couple more.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
I have disassembled my suppressor and put in the dishwasher
to clean out the carbon.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Jimmy original Andrew from Spring. I have put shoes in
the dishwasher, obviously by themselves, not with dishes. That would
be nasty. Just pre treat them with oxy clean white
shoes and then put them in the dishwasher. Come out bam,
looking brand spanking new.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
This is Jacob calling from Crosby.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
I have actually washed my ball caps in the little
plastic I guess container that keeps its shape.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Stow it in there, but never with dish if it's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
You know, it's funny. I looked at and looked it
up online and there was like a whole laundry list
of things. Toys for example, that that, you know, baby toys,
that kind of thing, anything you would want to like
clean and sanitize in particular, because that's the one thing
you can do in the dishwasher that's more difficult to
do in the washers to actually sanitize it because it
(07:38):
gets so hot. But again, you have to be careful
because some things are going to melt in there if
you're not if you're not careful, all right, quick, a
little break. We are back with more in a moment.
Jimmy Bart Show. You're a name nine fifty KPRC. All right,
(08:08):
I guess yesterday that we can talk about today on
the show is drug prices. The President President, before leaving
for Saudi Arabia, signing an executive order to bring down
drug prices. At least he says they will bring down
(08:28):
drug prices thirty to eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
By the way.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
A guest coming up next segment on our show, David Blott.
David Blot will join us. David Blot is somebody in
the healthcare industry. He's the CEO of Alliance and Direct
Carolines is the actual name. He's the CEO of David Blot.
We're going to talk to him about you know what
(08:52):
what what's the real skinny on the drug prices here?
But you know what, what cost? What has caused them
to get so high? And what is President Trump done
that will help bring them down? We'll talk to him
about that. But here is President Trump yesterday giving an example,
a pretty funny example, actually a pretty funny example of
why it is that he has decided to do something
(09:16):
about drug prices.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
A friend of mine.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
Who's a business man, very very very top guy. Most
of you would have heard of him, a highly neurotic,
brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes to fat shot.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Drug and he called me up.
Speaker 10 (09:36):
I'm in London and I just paid for this damn
fat drug I take.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I said, it's not working.
Speaker 10 (09:43):
They said, he said, I just paid eighty eight dollars
and in New York I paid thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
What the hell is going on? What the hell is
going on?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean it makes no sense we pay more
for drugs anybody else. But there's there's more than just
the drug companies to We'll get into them when we
talk to David Blott. It's it, as always is slightly
more complicated, uh than what you might think that it is.
But the fact that this executive orders happen, it'll be
(10:18):
interesting to see how quickly this has an impact on
how much we're paying for drugs. The whole the whole
system is ridiculous anyway. RFK Junior HHS Secretary praising President
Trump yesterday for having the cohones to actually do something
like this because other politicians in the past have talked
(10:40):
about doing it, have talked tough about doing it, but
haven't done anything.
Speaker 11 (10:43):
You know, there's there's writers like what my Lord Elizabeth
Warren or Robert Reich or just saying that President Trump
is on this side of the olic arcs.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
There has never.
Speaker 11 (10:53):
Been a president more willing to stand up to the
Olock arcs than President Donald And I'm very very proud
of you, missed a president, for your courage for I'll say,
because I don't want to be crude, you're intestinal fortitude,
your stiff the spine, and your your willingness to stand
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up for the American people. We have four point two
percent of the world's population. We our country represents seventy
five percent of the revenues for pharmaceutical companies. We spent
in our country eleven one hundred and twenty six dollars
per capita on drugs. In Britain they's been about two
(11:38):
hundred and forty. They spent one fifth of what we do.
And this is true across Europe. And this and the
drug company's Europeans, if you ask them, it made no
sense what they're saying, Well, America has to favor this
innovation or is not going to happen. President Trump is
saying to our European partners is you've got to raise
(12:00):
the amount that you're paying for those drugs and pay
for your share of the innovation. Oh that I the
United States is no longer subsidizing that. If the Europeans
raised their at the price of their drugs by just
twenty percent, that is ten trillion dollars that can be
spent on innovation. And the house of all people all
(12:21):
across the globe is going to increase yep.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And again that's part of it too. You know, how
is it that the United States has found itself in
a position where we are the ones who are funding
all the development and research. How is that? And by
the way, if you want to blame, I mean, here's
something to think about. And I think when RFK Junior
(12:47):
was giving the president credit for quote unquote intestinal fortitude,
here's what he's thinking, all right. The previous administration, the
Biden administration. How much do you think that whole the
whole COVID nineteen pandemic response, how much of that do
you think was based on trying to help these drug
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companies make more money or help the line the politics,
the line the politicians' pockets because they were all in
on this, like Anthony Fauci for example. How rich did
Anthony Fauci get as a result of the policies they
came up with that enriched the drug companies and therefore
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enriched some of these politicians as well. I think we
all think that they had something to do with that,
right course, that would make sense. President Trump, like most
other politicians, took a lot of donations from drug companies
while running for president, but he has not allowed that
to interfere with his policies. I'm pretty sure that the
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drug companies supposed have had some inkling or maybe they
thought maybe they thought they could bribe him. But as
RFK Junior said, this guy be bought. You know, he's
not for sale. He can't be bought. Although I get
the impression from some of these mainstream media reporters they
think that the President Trump can be bought and they
think that's what the what the jet is all about. Yeah,
(14:15):
that's what they think that the whole thing with the
with the with the jet is about. Well, I got
news that's that's not what that is all about at all.
The reason, at least one of the reasons why President
Trump is accepting that Jumbo seven forty seven to eight
jumbo jet from Cutter is because Boeing has let us
(14:36):
down again.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Boeing, they were the ones working on the new Air
Force one. They've been working on it for years. It's
not ready, it's not ready for delivery. How long do
we give Boeing, you know, to spend all that extra
money on an air Force one that just isn't going
to be ready. President Trump got asked about the free
jumbo jet from Cutter here from an ABC News reporter
(15:01):
who we had a little fun with. Let's take a
listen to that.
Speaker 12 (15:04):
What to say, people who knew that luxury jet as
a personal get to you?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Why not leave it by your NBC fake news?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Why not only only ABC?
Speaker 10 (15:12):
Well a few of you would, let me tell you,
you should be embarrassed asking that question.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
They're giving us a free jet. When they give you
a putt, you say thank you very much, you pick
up your ball, and you walk to the next all.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Golf analogy. They're giving us a free jet. What am
I stupid? Why would I say?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
You know, Bowie hasn't got my hasn't got our air
Force one ready. Here I'm flying in an old plane
with old technology. We need a new plane and and
and gutters going to give it to us. You're a taxpayer.
You're not going to have to spend your money on it.
They're giving us the jet. Did I mention that it's free?
Because because it's free, I mean not to say that
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they won't have to spend money on it. They're right,
they're gonna have to first as all as we do
discussed yesterday, they're gonna have to deconstruct it. They're gonna
have to make sure that there's nothing in there like
spying devices or what have you. And they're going to
have to obviously outfit it for all the things that
has to have to function as a flying fortress. That's
what air Force one is. Air Force one is the
(16:18):
Oval Office in the air and it has to have
all the capabilities that you would have at the Oval
Office at the White House. So yeah, that's gonna it's
still going to cost millions in order to do it.
But at the end of the day, at least they
got they got a newer plane and they and they
didn't have to pay for that part of it. I
don't know what happens to the Boeing contract. Can we
(16:39):
like cancel the Boeing contract now, seeing how they haven't
delivered on that anyway? Hopefully So you know, at the
end of the day, you know what this is all about. Though,
What drives people like ABC crazy is the guys just
they don't want to report. They don't want to report
on the victories because they get they're tired of him winning.
(17:00):
He's like constantly winning. Here is Greg Guttfeld talking about
the winning streak the Trump administration is on.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We don't deserve him. The wins keep rolling in it's true.
Speaker 13 (17:10):
Consider this list so far, China agreed to cut tariffs.
Zelenski's potentially meeting with Putin.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
To talk piece for the first time.
Speaker 13 (17:17):
The White House broker, the Indian Pakistan truz.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Who knows how long that will lasts.
Speaker 13 (17:21):
He's building a facility for homeless vets with funds previously
spent on illegals.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Big deal.
Speaker 13 (17:27):
I snagged a Venezuelan hit man he.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Was living with. Nancy Amas is releasing.
Speaker 13 (17:33):
An American hostage as a gesture to Trump. And he's
slashing prescription drug prices. But I wonder if there's a
story behind that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'll tell you a story.
Speaker 10 (17:44):
Friend of mine who's a business man, very very very
top guy. Most of you would have heard of him,
seriously overweight, and he takes the fat shot drug. And
he called me up and he said, in London and
I just paid for this damn fat drug I take.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I said, it's not working.
Speaker 10 (18:06):
They said, he said, I just paid eighty eight dollars
and in New York I pay thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
What the hell is going on?
Speaker 13 (18:22):
And that man was Rosie O'Donnell.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
At least they're talking.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
At least they're talking again.
Speaker 14 (18:35):
Every one of these things is like a legacy defining
achievement of a president, and he literally turns one out
every hour, and.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
On a Sunday.
Speaker 13 (18:43):
This was a weekend, so I guess he didn't celebrate
Mother's Day. He was like, we were all like out
at brunch and he's like fit doing these deals totally.
Speaker 14 (18:52):
But what's so incredible about it is that the whole time,
you know, as we talk about this ongoing conversation about
the Democratic Party and the narrative from the liberal left,
they will never champion a success They will never acknowledge
that they were the ones the whole time from China,
like you'll never bag that beast, Oh really, because China
just caved or you know, there's no way that this
sort of bull in a China shop can ever have
(19:13):
the foreign diplomacy required to actually negotiate peace sales really
Indian Pakistan, Like the Wins keep coming of these colossal
problems that the left kept saying, like there's no way
that this can ever be solvable. You know, the mess
Trump created was beyond repair it all, and he nails everything,
But I'm waiting for that success box to be checked
on their side. But as you put it, with their
(19:35):
heads still up their ass, there's no way they're even
going to see where the door is. So I guess
we should just take the win because we're going to
keep winning at the election ballot too.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
There you go. Win's a win and we just keep
on winning. All right, quick little break coming up. Next,
we're going to visit with healthcare professional. I don't mean
a doctor, I just mean he's a healthcare professional, David
blot the CEO of Direct Care Alliance, on the high
cost of prescription drugs, Trump's executive order and what he
(20:02):
thinks is likely to happen. Next, we're back with more
mom a Jimmy Baird Show here atn AM nine fifty KPRC.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
All Right, David Blata is with us.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
He's the CEO of Direct Care Alliance, here to talk
about Trump's executive action on drug prices, and we had
him on our morning show today in KTRH. And I
think the first thing you pointed out, David, to our
audience in the morning, you should point out our audience
in the afternoon, and that is that this executive order
only pertains to the federal government in what they're going
(20:48):
to pay for prescription medications going forward.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Right, That's that's right, that's we saw that with President Biden.
Speaker 15 (20:56):
With the Inflation Reduction Act pertaining to drug prices. That
really only affected Medicare Medicaid in the DA.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
But we have how many people that are on Medicare
and Medicaid? Millions of people?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Right? Oh, it's quite a few, and it's a growing
number every day.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, So I'm guessing from the standpoint of reducing prices
when you're talking about I don't know what the number
is for for Medicare and Medicaid, how many hundreds of
millions of people, but that's a pretty significant chuck, and
you would think it is also going to have an
impact I'm generally speaking, what they're what they're charging for
drug prices for everybody, health insurance companies right on down
(21:36):
the line.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You know, you hope that's the case.
Speaker 15 (21:39):
But unless they address drug pricing holistically, what a potential
outcome of this will be is that it may bring
it down for Medicare and Medicaid and the VA, but
in the private market we're going to see increases, so
that particularly the insurance companies who profit the most from
drug prices don't lose a lot of their value.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
How did we get ourselves into the situation to begin with?
Where the United States was the country that gets charged
the most. Why is it that we get charged more
for the same drugs that they're playing far less foreign
Europe and other countries.
Speaker 15 (22:21):
It's a multifaceted answer. It's a big question that requires
a big answer.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It's no simple it's no simple response or simple answers.
Speaker 15 (22:32):
It's going to take a lot of smart people applying
a lot of smart answers, one of which is the
amount of time that it takes to get drugs approved
and through the research period. With the FDA, the reformation
of that agency is badly needed.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That's number one, all right. What's number two?
Speaker 15 (22:51):
Number two is we have a problem with our supply chain.
Back in two thousand, under the Care Optimization Act, there
was a safe harbor from the anti kickback statute. Well,
PBMs Pharmacy Benefit Managers. I know that all sounds confusing,
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but this is an organization that works on behalf of
the insurance companies that are supposed to negotiate drug prices.
And what they do essentially is they because they have
the safe harbor from getting these kickbacks. They influence the
increase in drug prices from the manufacturers so that they
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can command a bigger kickback to themselves and to the
insurance company. So that has created this inflationary effect in
pricing over the last twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
You know, I have to wonder as well, David, And
I don't mean to put you on the spot here.
I'll give you my opinion and you can disagree with
me all you want to, or agree with whatever's most
appropriate to do. But the one thing that's truck Let's
go back to COVID nineteen here for a moment, Okay,
when we had all these cheap drugs that were available
that basically the federal government said, no, you know, you
(24:10):
don't want to take those they're dangerous. We've got a vaccine.
We want you to take the vaccine. I always felt
like there were people within the confines of the federal government.
I don't know, doctor Anthony Fauci comes to mind that
we're probably getting rich off of this stuff. It made
a deal with the pharmaceutical companies to develop these vaccines,
and how they were all going to get rich off
of them, and then proceeded to dictate government policy that
(24:33):
would make sure that would happen.
Speaker 15 (24:36):
You know what's interesting about that is typically when you
work for a company and you developed patents, the patent
is owned by that company, is it not.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
That's not the case in the federal government.
Speaker 15 (24:46):
And we know that doctor Fauci received millions and millions
of dollars in royalties for patents that he developed in
mRNA technology.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So yeah, I think that there are.
Speaker 15 (24:56):
You know, a lot of the problems that we have, Jimmy,
it's government has built in perverse incentives.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's a lot of our issues.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah, I wonder too, David Blott. We kind of created
a middleman in all this that in the perfect world
would not exist and perhaps in other countries does not exist. Correct,
they do not know.
Speaker 15 (25:23):
Typically you don't see pharmacy benefit managers or PBMs in
other countries. It's largely a USA phenomenon.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
How much do you think it's added on to the
price of any given drug because of that layer of
bureaucracy that's been added.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Anywhere from forty to seventy percent.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Holy moly, Holy.
Speaker 15 (25:46):
You go to the pharmaceutical annual report, they'll you know,
notify their shareholders of how much the rebate is and
how much that takes into account. You can also go
to the PBM in the insurance companies and look at
their reports to Wall Street and see how much of
their revenue comes from the rebates that they received due
(26:08):
to their PBM efforts.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
All right, David, here's another here's another question. I have
always been curious about it in how this works in
this day and age we live in. Now, most of us,
through our insurance company, have some sort of a prescription benefit.
And even if you don't through your insurance company, or
even if you do through your insurance company, there are
other good RX. There are other websites that you can
(26:33):
go to where you can theoretically shop for a lower
price for that same drug. And you will, you'll go
on this and very often you will see a huge
difference from site to site as far as what you'd
have to pay to get that medication. How does that
work and why does that work that way?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Well?
Speaker 15 (26:52):
Sure, well, there's there's a price, which is the market rate.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And if there's.
Speaker 15 (26:57):
A payment upfront or some kind of deal that they
had in place with a PBM like good RX, because
they function like one too, you can get a cash
price through that medium or through that broker. If you
have a copay through your insurance. Typically that cope is
sometimes more expensive than a generic drug at the cash trade.
(27:20):
It's always important to find out what that price is
based on where you go, if they're offering that discount
from their regular price.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Okay, So, if I'm understanding you correctly, all these different groups,
whether you're talking about good RX or whatever quote unquote
discount type of app you're going through, they have all
made a deal for how much they're going to have
to pay for any particular drug. And then how much
you paid them for that particular drug depends on solely
(27:51):
on how much of a markup they're putting on there
for themselves.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yes, they're getting either a fee or a piece of
the pie themselves.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Okay, So when you find it something that's half as
much on one side versus another side, then you know
they just made a better deal.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And therefore you.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Depend.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Wow, it all strikes me, and maybe this is very purposeful,
David Blood, is that it all strikes me is very confusing,
and it's like most other things in life, hospitals and
hospital pricing in all that I think it's meant to
be confusing, isn't it.
Speaker 15 (28:30):
That's my personal belief is that the intentional complexity benefits
these organizations that make.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
A lot of money.
Speaker 15 (28:37):
That's that's why I do what I do through to
my company, is that we take things back to the
basics and it's just you provide service, you get paid
for your service.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Wow, if we can only make the entire medical community
run that way, how much better would life be?
Speaker 15 (28:54):
Well, it's always a better thing when people are paying
less for it. I hope and pray that one day
will see the healthcare industry move in that direction.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Well, I think if nothing else, this this executive order
from President Trump. It may not be the total answer
here to to trying to get down drug prices, but
it certainly seems to me like it's putting pressure on
these drug companies that maybe for the first time ever,
they realize they're dealing with somebody here who's going to
put a lot of pressure on them to bring these
prices down.
Speaker 15 (29:25):
And I think a lot of that has to do
with the people that President has put in place. Much
much of the executive order gives a lot of power
to the agencies and the Secretary of Kennedy I think
is a good person to have to exert that pressure
on the pharmaceutical companies because he's been very critical in
the past and he's eager to get the prices down.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, and I think they realized that they're not going
to let up on this until something happens. So even
if it's just to keep the this administration off their back,
they're likely to do something for the rest of us,
not just Medicare Medica.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
That's my hope.
Speaker 15 (30:02):
And they need to do that quickly because they've got
some look at holistic solutions for this problem. They introduced
a Most Favored Nation Executive Order in twenty twenty, towards
the end of his first term, so it makes sense
that they've introduced this at the beginning of a second
term so they actually have time to get these things implemented.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
All right, David, Hey, listen, you've been a wealth of information.
I appreciate your time today. Thank you always pleasure. David Blot,
the CEO of Direct Care Alliance, back with more in
the moments Jimmy Bart Show.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You're an AM ninety fifteen KPRC.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
All right, before we call a day today, here's an
observation I've made this morning. Allow me to make it
again this afternoon. Did you see the protesters, the singing
protesters outside of this Newark, New Jersey, Ice detention facility,
you know, singing the songs. I mean, it's one thing
to hear them singing their little little protest songs. It's
(31:14):
another thing to see who they were. There weren't very
many of them. I only saw maybe fifteen to twenty
on TV. But they all they all look the same.
They were all baby boomers, probably seventy plus, maybe even
seventy five plus in some cases. And they all looked
(31:36):
like they all still had the long hair. They all
still had the bandanas. I swear I might have even
seen a tie Dice shirt amongst the group. It's the hippies.
The hippies are, That's who's protesting these days. The hippies
are still around the people who are protesting the Vietnam
(31:56):
War back in the day, a handful of them who
never grew up, never matured, never never never lost their
their altered liberal stance, never got any more conservative. There
they are out protesting heinous criminals being detained by Ice.
The people being detained by Ice meet one of two
(32:17):
criteria at this point, they're either deemed to be dangerous people,
gang members, gang bangers, you know, potential terrorists, those type
of people, or they have already had an order to
deport they have they've already they either skipped their day
in court, didn't show up, the court ordered them to
(32:38):
be deported, and they are being rounded up now and
they're going to be deported because they've they've had their
day in court. That's who we're talking about here. Those
are the people they're trying to protect. But in case
you want to test my theory, here, here are those protesters.
A little bit of those protesters, and they were talking
about it on the five and Dana Pirna will comment
(32:58):
on what they're calling the dem sir rec going on
in Newark.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
They say no, we say no, we say no, we
say no.
Speaker 16 (33:07):
Jesus Democrats singing for the rights of suspected murderers, terrorists,
child rapists, and ms thirteam members as they formed a
human chain outside an ice facility in the New Jersey
that holds the worst of the worst. It's the same
center that saw a trio of House Democrats storm their
way in and clashed with agents there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You lay a finger on them.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
We are going to have a problem.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Jesse, Why is is she wearing clothes?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
We should have pixelated that. I'm sorry, we should have
had a viewer warning data.
Speaker 16 (33:40):
What do you think about the dem surrection, Well, I think.
Speaker 12 (33:43):
That breaking the law in defense of people who broke
the law by virtue of being in this country is
viewed as a way to get ahead in the Democratic
primary for the gubernatorial race in New Jersey. There's an
open primary Republicans and Democrats are at it right now,
and that'll action is being held this November. And the
(34:03):
guy who got arrested the mayor of Newark. He's a
longtime antagonist and instead of being criticized by people in
his party, he's being praised. And guess what else, got
a lot of name I d and I would bet
that his FEC report will show that he got a
lot of donations. Because the perception bias is something that
we're really dealing with here. Like I look at this
(34:24):
and think this is awful. They are against an officer
of the law. This is crazy. In the meantime, on
their side, they're like, yeah, go for it, get them,
And I think we're going to have a lot more
of this on our hands. It's also happened in Massachusetts
where you had a city council member trying to prevent
an illegal, a violent criminal, illegal immigrant, a woman from
having to from getting into a car to be taken away.
(34:46):
And so I'm hoping we don't see a lot more
of this, but it seems to me that the Democrats
are fanning the flames and wanting more of it and
more of the attention.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Interesting, so Dana Brino seems to think that it is
it's how is a ca candidate, especially in a crowded
field because there's a lot of Democrats in places like
New Jersey. This is how you get attention, This is
how you get donations, this is how you separate yourself
from the people who are running against you. This is
(35:15):
how you get your nomination so that you can run
for office, for higher office. This is how you get
it done in a blue state. Which is kind of
sad because you would like to think that, Okay, well,
maybe the voters will catch on to that, because the majority,
even in place like New Jersey, you got to think
(35:35):
the majority of the voters there are not in favor
of bringing back, you know, gang members of protecting people
who have been ordered deported. They wouldn't be in favor
of that, you wouldn't think, So, how does that make
them more electable? Maybe it makes it help them get
the nomination with the left wing of the party, But
(35:56):
how does that make them more electable? You would like
to think that it makes it more likely maybe Republican
would win that seat, but they I guess, first things first, right,
worry about that after you get the nomination. All right, listen,
y'all have a great day. Thanks for listening. I do
appreciate it. I'll see you tomorrow morning, bright and early,
starting at five AM on News Radio seven forty kt
(36:17):
r H. We were back here at four on AM
nine fifty kPr C.
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